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Ep. 316 Today's Peep Features Rare DJ Promos- Vinyl Gold and Sonic Garbage: The Paradox of Rare Records and Unbearable Hits and the Worst Pop Songs Ever Made
We explore the fascinating world of DJ promo records, discussing their collectibility, rarity, and historical significance to music and radio culture.
• DJ promo 45s were produced in limited quantities and sent to radio stations to promote potential hit songs
• These records often featured the same song on both sides so DJs could flip them when one side wore out
• Promos are valuable because they're rare, sometimes contain alternate versions or mixes, and offer superior sound quality
• Some of my collection includes extremely rare items like early Beatles and Rolling Stones promotional pressings
• The conversation shifts to exploring "the worst songs of all time" according to various lists
• My personal pick for worst song ever is Clint Holmes' "Playground in My Mind"
• Other notable entries include songs by Bonnie Tyler, Dan Hill, and Billy Ocean
• I share a story about refusing to play Sheena Easton's "Morning Train" while working at Light 95 FM
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yeah, it is a friday, happy friday to you. It's the pats peeps podcast. That's right. Where are we at? 316? 316? Come on now, I apologize.
Speaker 1:Yesterday I couldn't get a podcast. If you only knew. You know I try to do them every day, but if you only knew, day from hell. But today, looking out the studio windows into the beautiful foothills of Northern California, what a gorgeous day. It can't be more than I mean. It has to be in the low 80s, gorgeous, and it just doesn't get any better. Man, I love California Anyhow, great weather. Thank you for listening to another one of my peeps. I appreciate that. Just in case you didn't know, my name is Pat Walsh. I'm also the host of the Pat Walsh Radio Show on KPK. I'm also the host of the Pat Walsh Radio Show on KPK. Kpk Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 AM, streaming live everywhere on the free iHeart app.
Speaker 1:You know, on today's podcast, I think we'll just go off the rails with some music. Now, when I say go off the rails with music, I mean I was, I don don't know. I was doing some research, you know, because I'm always playing these promo records, these rare DJ promo records, at the end of my podcast, and I have thousands of these. I've told you that before, and these were most. All of them were other than my own personal collection I had prior to the radio station handing over all these great records.
Speaker 1:Most of these are radio dj promos, so they, you know, the record company would send the record to the radio station to try to push it out there, get it on the air, make it a hit song. Right, that's how they used to do it. Then they would send a couple. I've explained this before. But they would send a couple of records, the same record, and it would have in many cases the same song on both sides. And then the second record with the same song on both sides. And the reason they did that is because if it became a hit, it would get that needle burn on the record. It kind of wore out the record. You could flip it over, keep playing, burn on the record. It kind of wore out the record. You could flip it over, keep playing the record, assuming it was still a hit. If it was still a hit, heck, you could take the second one out and you know, play that side, then you still have the other side.
Speaker 1:So these things are very, uh, they're very unusual, you can't. They're very rare. And the whole point of this is that, you know, I I was just looking it up I found a couple of interesting rare record DJ sites, including what is this guy? Mighty John's Promo Records Guide. So you know, I'm going to look more into that. One thing led to another and, by the way, just kind of a couple of notes on that.
Speaker 1:The DJ radio station promos the 40, I'm talking about 45s, not albums, 7-inch 45s, these records that I play for you all the time. They hold a significant value for both collectors and DJs who are looking for these unique tracks on vinyl, the original pressings. And why are they collectible? Well, because they're very rare. Like I said, you know these promo copies, they were produced in smaller quantities than the commercially released records. So, yeah, they are inherently more rare.
Speaker 1:You have the alternate versions and mixes, sometimes like promo 45s. You know, sometimes they feature unique edits, different mixes. I played some of them for you on this podcast many times. On one side maybe you'll have a mono mix and on the other side a mono version, on the other side a stereo version. A stereo mix Might even be an even slightly different performance of the track. So that makes them valuable to collectors and to disc jockeys who don't want the specific versions of the track. So that makes them valuable to collectors and to disc jockeys who, you know, want the specific versions of the song.
Speaker 1:Plus, a lot of these records have historical significance. You know, I can look at my Rolling Stones 19th Nervous Breakdown. It is just a white record label. They rushed it out so quickly it just someone wrote on there, london, I think it is, and it says 19th Nervous Breakdown in pencil. And I think it is and it says 19, nervous breakdown in pencil. And then just shipped it off. And I have that. That is so extremely rare.
Speaker 1:The Beatles I'll get you one of their first 45s before they were on Apple Records. I have that extraordinarily rare. So there are historic and it's not just the Beatles and the Stones, I mean we're talking country artists, all types of pop artists who released these things. So they do offer this tangible link to history. You know of radio and DJ culture and, again, material that was used to introduce this new music to new audiences.
Speaker 1:The sound quality some collectors believe that promotional, like I said earlier, that these promotional copies, because they're among the first pressings, they offer superior quality because they were struck from the fresh stamps for the records, the stampers. They've got the not-for, not for sale markings right there on the labels. That's why I always read those to you the distinctive not for sale or promotional copy that those little labels very attractive feature for collectors. And then you know the way my mind works. I want to have some fun and within that, with that in mind, it's always so easy to say, hey, what's the best song of all time? What's the best 45 of all time? But I am a big fan of and if you listen to my radio show, the pat wall showing kfbk, you know that occasionally, maybe even tonight, I might do some of this. But I don't want to replicate what I'm doing here, but occasionally I have more fun with the worst songs.
Speaker 1:Now there's a whole category of worst songs. Before I've done this on my, I think on this podcast, maybe a couple hundred podcasts ago. I don't even remember. Couple hundred podcasts ago, I don't even remember. So I have my idea of what is the worst, but then I saw other people's ideas of what are the worst. Now I have not pre-listened to this, so let's just go down that rabbit hole, shall we from various angles.
Speaker 1:Let's start with whoever this is. This is did. This is, um, uh, anointed lists. Okay, whoever that is, so let's see what they're. They've got the top 100 worst and most awful songs of all time. I have not listened to this, so let's listen together and I'll comment oh, what is that? Bonnie tyler? Is that bonnie? No, is that her name, bonnie tyler? Oh, is that dan hill? Oh god, see how many I can get. I probably will start losing. I probably won't know all of these, but I knew the first two Bonnie Tyler, total eclipse of the heart, right. And Dan Hill, sometimes when we touch. Wasn't he from Canada, the 51st state, I think? I'm not. I'm not sure. Anyhow, what else do we have on anointed lists? Top 100, most awful songs? Oh god, all right, here we go. Oh, leo Sayre. See, I'm three for three on. I don't know how long I'll continue. I'll probably start blowing it.
Speaker 1:I remember this fondly, just because it was when I was a teenager, like junior high. It's not like my favorite, it's not my least favorite, but it's not my favorite, but I remember it. Okay, here we keep going Down. Two, three, four. Yeah, I don't really know this too well. I mean, I've heard it, whatever. Oh god, oh, this is. I'm so glad they included this.
Speaker 1:Billy Ocean, get out of my dreams, into my car. I mean, just think of the title of it, just think of the lyrics. Get out of my dreams and into my car, I mean, other than the police, every breath you take. This is one of the great stalker songs of all time. Oh god, that's bad. Ah, sorry, beatles fans or Yoko and John fan, I agree with this too. Can't stand it. I can't stand it. If that comes on the radio I'd turn it. I'm not listening to Yoko. I mean, I know it's John, but it's also Yoko you too. It's also Yoko, you Too. Oh God, I like you Too. But that song Lemon, that song Lemon. This is a very good list, anointed list. So far, pretty good. What else? Please make it stop. Oh, up, chuck 106.9. There's vanessa williams. Remember the gag fest is this weekend in turlock. Tesla makes the list Doing the five-man electrical band. Remember the original Back in 1971, baby.
Speaker 1:Here's Tesla to ruin that one from Sacramento.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:Oh God.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:Never made me laugh here. I am never alan sherman. This never made me laugh. Elton john god, I forgot about this song. Daddy don't want you. I have to applaud whoever anointed lists this, because this isn't my favorite Elton either. Daddy don't want you, my little dog. Oh Lord, you're running after me. Wayne Newton I Jeez. I remember this was on the radio. Daddy, don't you walk so fast. On Gag 107.2. Crying. Daddy, don't you walk so fast. He looks like Steve Perry from Journey in that video. So fast. He looks like Steve Perry from Journey in that video. As he's gone, we'll make you pay for what we've done. Oh my God, this is, this is.
Speaker 1:I could not have compiled a better list than this. David Gettys run, joey, run. This. I think I was traumatized in junior high listening to this song. This is truly awful. Run, joey run, leave me sunshine. Ah, hurricane Smith, I'll bang.
Speaker 1:What would you say? I remember he sang like that. I hate what any dude that need. I ain't what I need. Who'd not need? I don't know the words.
Speaker 1:I heard that this dude was the producer or something like that and someone else was supposed to sing this god-awful song. But but he sang it some for some reason. Uh, listen, bob. Yeah, hank doesn't want to sing this lousy song. What do you mean? He does it now. He doesn't want to sing. Hank doesn't want to sing this. Bj thomas, bj th. Hank doesn't want to sing this lousy song. What do you mean? He doesn't? No, he doesn't want to sing. Hank doesn't want to sing this. Bj Thomas. Bj Thomas doesn't want to sing this. What do you mean? Nah, he says you better sing it. He says it's so awful, you better sing it. But my name is Rick Smith. Well, you're going to go by Hurricane. Right, here we go, hurricane.
Speaker 1:Oh, what would you say? Phil Collins, I like Phil Collins, but I'd forgotten about this one, I don't know. Yeah, by this time I think I was getting kind of tired of it, you know, I mean because he owned the 80s man. This guy journey him, a few others, michael jackson, I did, I was by this time it was so poppy. Oh god, rock me. I am a dance man. It's no wonder I didn't really care. I'm sorry. I know a lot of people love the 80s music. It's no wonder I have some disdain for that era. I mean, there's some things I like. Here you go, let's see too legit to quit. Remember he'd be on the falcon sideline. Mc hammer too legit until they weren't too legit. That was the dirty bird era. Mc hammer, former oakland a's bat boy, had the pants.
Speaker 1:You know the mc hammer pants since my girl left me oh life can't crash, and I'm so okay, I have no idea what this is, but I want to rip my headphones off and throw them in the sink. Oh god, mr lonely, what? All right. I'm sorry, god, some of you are going to hate me for saying this. I'm not the biggest Dave Matthews band fan. I know he's got some good songs. That ain't one of them. Ugh jeez, all right.
Speaker 1:I don't know this one either. Oh, yes, I do. Oh, I do know this. Rednecks r-e-d-n-e-x. This is like some kind of weird rave party gone wrong with mixed with line dancing. Where did you come from? Where did you go? Where did you come from? Cotton Eye Joe? Hey, are you the guy singing, cotton Eye Joe? Why, yes, I am I'm sure you are Now. Come here for a second. You Stop Stop singing, stop Rung, oh Lord God.
Speaker 2:Torn between two lovers.
Speaker 1:Mary McGregor, I was 16. Oh Lord God, oh God. Mary McGregor, I was 16. I got my driver's license when this one came out. Anytime it came out on K-R-O-Y, I changed to K-F-R-C. Anytime it came out on K-F-R-C, I changed it to K-R-O-Y, and you know what. You know what this one reminds me of.
Speaker 1:You know what this reminds me of, oh God, this reminds me of and if it's not on the list, maureen McGovern. There's got to be a morning after. That has to be on the list. How about David Soul? How about David Soul? Don't give up on us, baby, da-da-da-da, do-do us. Baby, da da, da, da, do do. Hey, now, good morning. That's Peeps 360. How long can you take it? At least it's not Yoko. Okay, I can literally stop right here. This is my number one most hated song that it was ever that I can think of. I can't. This is a great list. The number one most hated song I can think of in terms of songs that got radio play on top 40. Clint Holmes Playground in my mind, the most perverted, horrible. I hate this song. And look, you're lucky that it's just a little snippet within this montage, because if you heard the beginning with the kids singing oh God, yeah, this is my Excluding Yoko's nonsense, which really isn't a song. This is the worst song I have ever heard, and Run Joey Run's pretty bad.
Speaker 1:I got a nickel, I got a nickel shiny. Can you imagine going to see this dude in concert Now? Clint Holmes we're sorry, sorry, sorry. The who could not be here tonight. Night night, boo Boo, no, no, no, no, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no wait a minute. Hold on. Instead, we do have another great artist, artist, artist. Anyway, please welcome to the stage clint holmes. He's on a playground with a kid all kinds of candy.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm gonna do?
Speaker 1:he's on a playground with a kid. All kinds of candy, that's what he's gonna do. Oh, what is this? Is this gonna be? The cars hold up, all right, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:This is the first one I disagree on. I'm a Cars fan and I like this song. Give me some slack, I like it. Give me some slack. Sean Cassidy, I don't know if I have an opinion on this. I never really did. You know here you go, oh, really did you know there you go? Oh, lord God, no, michael Bolton.
Speaker 1:I used to have to play this on Light 95 and act like I liked it. Light 95 FM, that's Michael Bolton. Another song that makes me upchuck, upchuck, 106. I used to have to do a thing on the air. Hey, be listening for the Michael Bolton or the sound of the ocean waves. You'll qualify to win Michael Bolton tickets here on Light 95 FM KPAY. I used to think wait a minute. First of all, it's Michael Bolton. No one wants to go. Second of all, you're going to qualify to win Michael Bolton tickets. Qualify, please, just give the tickets away.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, you know, in a doubt, working at Light 95 reminds me of another song that should be on this list. My baby takes the morning train. My boss called me in the office. I skipped it. You got a playlist. You got a playlist in front of you. It's got all the songs on there at the music radio station. You look into the playlist. You got to sign off on the list after you play all the songs and one time that song was on the playlist and one time that song was on the playlist and I hate it so bad that I skipped it and I played. I still remember all these. This was in the 90s and I still remember what I played. I played disc 215. Because there'd be varying songs on each disc and the discs would be numbered, you put it in your Denon CD player and you play it on air. I played disc 215, ricky, don't Lose that Number because I couldn't stand Morning Train by Sheena Easton.
Speaker 1:The next day my boss comes in. Hey, pat, can I stop by the office real quick. I stop into Ron Woodward's office. I love you, ron, man who gave me my break in radio. He goes. I see that you.
Speaker 1:He looks very stern at me at his desk. I see that you didn't play Morning Train last night by Sheena Easton. I looked at him and I said yeah, yeah, I didn't. I said but I play the song that I know you like, ricky, don't Lose that Number. And he kept his stern face. He goes. Why didn't you play the song? He goes, I do like that song. Why didn't you play that song? I said because I hate it. Rod, I hate that song. Who would listen to this song? And he looks at me and pretty soon he starts laughing. He went from stern face. He couldn't help it. He started laughing. He goes. All right, pat, all right, I'm going to let you he goes. If you see Sheena Easton morning train on the list, the next time you can replace it with Ricky, don't lose that number.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, what else we got? Oh, is Rick Astley on here? Never going to give you up, never going to let you down? Hey, it's got to be on here. Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down? Hey, it's gotta be on here or it's not complete. It's a bogus list, otherwise. Savage Garden. I know nothing about this. I was tuned out. Oh yeah, I didn't mind this one, but God, it got played over and over. Mark Cohn, that's got way overplayed. Oh dear God. Oh, oh. Saccharine Rush, god, awful. And I don't need no care at all Because you had a bad day. Listen to the song and it's really, really bad. Oh God, this is a. This list is just incredibly good, so bad. That's one of the most commercial songs I have ever heard in my life. Please, it's a song I do not know. Let my britches Okay, okay, oh, my ears about exploded. Oh, my ears about exploded. Oh God, it's Friday. Friday, gotta get down on Friday. Everybody looking forward to the week.
Speaker 2:The people say my Bella me.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, Geez, they dug deep there. The tea set my Bella me. Who's that other song? What was that other song from the early 70s? Add us to add us to Brutal, Thank you. I don't either. I don't either. I don't either. That's it all. God, I hate Air Supply. Oh huh, I don't know. I kind of like this one.
Speaker 2:Okay, there's two I've disagreed with on this so far, okay. Cw McCall disagreed with on this so far, okay.
Speaker 1:a mile out of shaky town I says pig pen, this rubber duck, and I'm about to put the hammer down. Cw mccall. Okay, you should hear the response to the cw mccall song. That is convoy, cb savage. Oh boy, that has to be on the list. Convoy, that was a terrible song. This one should be on there. No one remembers this. This was the answer to Convoy. This is CB Savage about it. I'm putting this one on the list. It's not on their list, it just reminded me of it.
Speaker 2:It's the gay truck driver Rocking chair out on i-40 dodging bucks in pickup trucks in west new mexico. It was a cloudy day and me and old jay was just about bored to tears. But we come awake when a cb break. Come a ringing loud and clear, and we heard this voice that we ain't never heard before saying Break one nine. I'm CB Savage. Hi all you 18-wheelers. Anyone seen any smoky bears? How about some bear smokies?
Speaker 1:You know the background little jingly bell thing playing there and that's so bizarre. How am I going to make this connection?
Speaker 2:I am that weird little bell in the background also reminds me of all things, of icp phoebe savage here if anyone knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:I won't even get into that tune whoa anyhow. So let's get back into this. Oh, this is a good one. Rico Slave, yeah yeah. Song about Anthony Weiner oh, here we go. Oh, dear God, from a distance, I love you. Anointed Lists, you are great, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I don't know if I'm going to give that one of the worst song categories, but I was never a fan of this. I'm sorry. I could go on and on with this.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 1:What? I don't know this. You're probably going what? What do you mean? You don't know that. Here's why. Because I don't know this either, because I don't listen to certain styles of music, and these are this is what I'll do, here's why. Because I don't know this either, because I don't listen to certain styles of music, and these are this is Wow, middle of the road. Talk about obscure. Diana Ross made the list here. All right, I've got to wrap this thing up, darn it, I just need to. Diana Ross made the list here. All right, I got to wrap this thing up, darn it. I just need to know some of the. I could just go on and on, but only three the Green Beret. So here's one In the garden.
Speaker 2:I'll throw my little tree From tiptoe Through the tulip.
Speaker 1:With me. Well, that's a good choice. I'm going to have to skip through some of these Gosh. I don't want to. I mean literally. I love this so much. I could do this for an hour. What else we got here? Oh, here's one. What is this? I'm too sexy for your party.
Speaker 2:Too sexy for your party. The way I'm disco dancing.
Speaker 1:You're right. I don't know why everyone hates Nickelback. I don't really know this song. I haven't listened to much Nickelback. People don't like it. Oh God help me. I need to check out of this. This just pushed my limits. Thank you for listening. Have a great weekend. It's Pats Peeps 316, mercifully coming to an end. I'm going to end it on the Whatever song comes up. That, I think, is the worst. I'm going to end it on that song. Here we go. I don't know this one by heart. Here we go. Oh, this is bad man by sammy davis jr. That's a stankaroo there. Oh god, you're beautiful, shut up.
