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Ep. 372 Today's Peep Is Oh So Dreamy- Dreams, Radio, And Lives On The Line: My Conversation with the "Dreamweaver" Long-Time Radio Talk Host & Dream Interpreter Stephanie Doran, Saving Callers and Decoding the Subconscious
A gray morning breaks into sunlight and we follow it straight into the studio, where a voice Sacramento once trusted at 2 a.m. takes us behind the glass. Stephanie “Dreamweaver” Dorn built a legendary radio segment by doing something deceptively simple and wildly difficult: listening to strangers, interpreting their dreams in real time, and finding words that could steady a shaking hand. Two calls defined what was at stake. One man was attempting suicide on the line. Another was driving with a gun to confront his pregnant ex. Stephanie kept them talking, gathered enough detail for help, and then did the slower work—guiding one caller into a new path he later called from Afghanistan to describe. Radio wasn’t background noise that night. It was a lifeline.
We open up the toolkit that made those moments possible. Stephanie explains how the right hemisphere of the brain crafts symbols that slip past the left’s censors, why recurring images like flying, falling, giving birth, and getting stuck appear across lives, and how attention itself strengthens dream recall. You’ll hear how a “two mouths” dream flagged a double talker, why “quicksand” often means the work is a process not an event, and how a launch-and-parachute dream reveals smart risk-taking and an inner safety net. There’s even a historical detour: nineteen Titanic passengers canceled after dreams or premonitions of an iceberg. Rare or not, those stories remind us to listen when our inner alarms go off.
We also celebrate the messy, musical art of live radio. The “Dreamweaver” name was born on air when a host grabbed the Dream Weaver cart because he forgot her name—and the phone lines lit up. From yelling “pizza” to get into a shared studio, to framing each caller’s story with the perfect song, to remembering the quick wit of Chris Collins, this is a love letter to the era when listeners sat in their garages just to hear how a call would end. Press play for the saves, stay for the symbols, and leave with a sharper ear for your own night stories.
If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend who keeps a dream journal, and drop a review with your strangest recurring dream—we might feature it next time.
Today's the first day I will say that without any overcast whatsoever. There's just maybe a thin layer of light clouds, but the sun is still coming through. You know, for the last seemingly 100 days. Sacramento in that region has been stocked in with fog. I don't know what the deal is. They call it radiation fog. I don't know what the radiation fog is. I have no idea what that means. That's kind of a terrifying expression. But um yeah. But that's what it's saying. If it's stocked in, man, it's not letting up. Meanwhile, up here in the beautiful foothills, it has been sunshine, and uh I've been enjoying it very much. Getting a lot done. Hope you're having a great Christmas time. I am. I've been doing a lot of Christmas things lately. Went to the Real Linda Christmas Parade this weekend. How about that? That's right. That's what I did. The Real Linda Christmas Parade. This is Pat's Peeps 372. Thank you to Realinda for doing such a wonderful job. It was really nice. I never thought I'd say that I was at the Real Linda Christmas Parade. There's Stephanie Dorn laughing in the background. I'm going to introduce you to Stephanie Dorn. I didn't know. I'd be like, okay, what? I'm at the Real Linda Christmas Parade. Okay, let's do this. And I'm glad I did it. They put out a folks out there supporting the community reminds me of Doom. Where you know people that come out that support their local high school, they support the community. Sometimes they call the road down and just have a improvement. Everyone's all about that. So we're at Pat Speeds. What do we have? 370. Can you believe this? By the way, my name is Pat Folks, and I am the host of Pat Speeds Podcast. We support local businesses. We are live everywhere, just like we always say. And there's Stephanie in the background. Stephanie, we can talk about radio. Stephanie Dorn and I go back many, many years. And if you've been listening to the radio in Sacramento for a number of years, then you will remember the name Stephanie Dorn. She is not just a good friend of mine, uh dear friend, but she's also known for the Dreamweaver. The Dreamweaver, she analyzes your dreams. She will I I if I'm wrong when I say this. She will certainly let me know, but she analyzes your dreams. People will wait for an hour or more to talk with Stephanie Doran, who had the highest-rated show for years. You talk about TSL time spent listening through the roof, man. Stephanie Dorne, how are you, my friend?
SPEAKER_03:I'm great. It's great to be with you, Pat. It's just great to be with you. And it's uh great to be talking about radio. It was never a job. It was always a joy. It always was a joy. Never work. Just uh taking those calls on the fly. We never knew what was coming, and uh we were ready for anything and everything, and we got some of both, including oh my gosh, my two most dramatic calls were one was a man who was committing suicide while he was listening to my program, and another one was on his way to murder his wife while he was listening to my program. So I not only explained dreams and helped people to understand their lives with somehow the right words and taking the time, two lives were saved with my program. I can't imagine somebody committing suicide and listening to my program.
SPEAKER_00:Well, certainly you are you're you're absolutely right in uh in our before I ask you more specifically about those two things, uh, but it it's in our business and in radio, the style of radio, when you're hosting a talk show of some kind, and which is exactly what yours is, which mine is, we take phone calls, we host a show, we talk out there. Even though we both uh very similarly into the music which we'll end up talking about in a few minutes. But it's about talking to people. When you're in music radio, you talk up a record, you play the music, you know, and that's what you do, you make some announcements, you talk about the community. You're dealing with people, you just don't know what's coming next. And you have to really be able to handle those calls, you have to be able to deal with it because there they are right there on the air. Everyone is listening. And if you get a dramatic phone call, like in the cases you're talking about, people are not only um intrigued and and disturbed or whatever the case may be about that phone call, but certainly what your response as a host is going to be.
SPEAKER_03:How did And they don't train you for that? They don't train us. So in both cases, I felt like I was walking a very fine line to not have the caller hang up before I could get a name and an address and a phone number and call get 911 there. I mean, y y you have to uh not come on very strongly, but you have to talk to them about all their personal life and why they're feeling so sad and do it gently so they don't hang up and at the same time be effective so the suicide didn't occur because the man was fading as we were talking, and the other one he had had he was having dreams that he was murdering his wife and he kept dreaming of killing her. So when I asked him, you know, what is your dream? How can I help you? He said, Well, I've been having dreams of killing my wife, and I just had a funny intuitional maybe woman feeling, and I asked him where he was, and he said, I'm driving, and I said, Where are you going? and he said, Well, I'm going to where she's now living with another man, and she's pregnant with his baby, and I'm on my way, and I said, Uh, do you have a weapon with you? Stop trying to stay very calm. And he said, Yes, I have a a gun in my lap. We're not prepared for this kind of stuff. And he was uh very serious. So we skipped play we we kept him on the line. Um I told him that he sounded like a very sad and hurt man, but he also sounded like a smart man, and I convinced him that if he would turn around and go back home, I would spend the next day either in person or on the phone with him, and I would see what I could do for him. And so he agreed. So the next day I was on the phone with him all day. I convinced him to join the service and take his anger with him, and he ended up going to Afghanistan, and I don't know how he figured out the time difference because it was quite a while ago, but he would call my program from Afghanistan and he would tell his story, our story, of how I saved his wife's life and his because he would have gone to prison. But those were the two most extreme. Some of the others were funny in presentation and even funny in uh interpretation. One woman said that she was dating a new man, but she'd only been with him for about three weeks, and uh he seemed like a nice guy. Well, nice doesn't tell you very much. And I said, Well, what are you dreaming about with regard to him? She said, Well, it's the same man, but in my dreams he has two mouths. He has one mouth where it should be, and right above that, under his nose, he has another mouth. She's only known him three weeks. He was a double talker.
SPEAKER_00:Double talker.
SPEAKER_03:She dreamt of then another version.
SPEAKER_00:Now was now was that was he actually a double talker, Stephanie? Or in real life, or did she just was her dream that that was she just dreaming that he was a double talker?
SPEAKER_03:She was dreaming that he was who he was because she didn't know him well enough. She'd only known him for three weeks. She hadn't caught on yet. And another one that was similar to this was a woman who called in and um another it's the women and the guys, not so much the guys with the gals, but um a woman called in and she said um she was dating someone rather new and she would have dreams of him, just a picture of him, and he'd be talking, but only one corner of his mouth would go up, but the other one wouldn't. And then in the next scene, the other corner of his mouth would go up and the other one wouldn't. This one was talking out of both sides of his mouth. So you see these are you know, dreams that are for us to figure out what we miss when we're awake. When we go to bed and go to sleep, our mind goes to work. And the right hemisphere of our brain, which is the side we dream through, uh as contrasted with the left hemisphere of our brain, that's that logical side. That's uh almost the parental side that says, when we're awake, don't do that, that's stupid, that's silly, that'll never happen, don't do that. But when we go to sleep, that left hemisphere, that's a limit, allows the right hemisphere of possibility to come up with all sorts of cartoons and scenes and scenarios that get the point through, like playing charades, once we understand them. And there's no such thing as a bad dream. There are only dreams that are not understood.
SPEAKER_00:We're talking with Stephanie Doran. Stephanie Doran has always been known as the dream weaver, and would I mean you're listening to what she does now, which is fascinating to me and to so many other people. Stephanie, are you still doing this? Are you still analyzing dreams and talking to people and about all of these things that you're that you're that you're talking to us about right now? Are you still doing that? You have you still have your business. Of course I am. Sure.
SPEAKER_03:Of course I am.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You know, uh basically, I found a need and I failed it, Pat.
SPEAKER_00:Right. So if they want to go to you, what if people want to call you, or if what if they want to get in touch with you to what if they have a dream that they'd love to have you analyze?
SPEAKER_03:Uh I will give out my my office number, which is yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:916 988 9234. And I'm going to repeat that.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:916 988 9234. Well, then as long as I have breath in my body, I will be doing this because even if people don't remember their dreams, we all cycle through the dream cycle every single night. Even if we don't remember them.
SPEAKER_00:Sometimes we remember them, sometimes we don't. Why is that? Do you have any thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_03:Uh, yes. There's not a lot of social reinforcement for dream recall. In other words, somebody might ask you, well, what'd you do the last couple of days, Pat? And you could say, Well, I went to the uh oolala gala.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I did go to that, by the way. Yes, I did. Thank you, everyone at the oolala gala. Thank you.
SPEAKER_03:That was a nice Yes. I'm talking about the rewind of parade. Oh. Thank you. Uh but hardly anybody asks, what did you dream last night? So the more interested you are in your dreams, the more obviously likely you're gonna be remembering them. And uh sometimes people don't remember because they've had a a really what they would call a bad, bad dream, and sometimes, rarely, but sometimes they come true only one or two percent of the time, and it's so traumatic for them that they don't ever want to have that experience again. So they they block it. But here's another example of how dreams can change lives and even save lives that after the Titanic sank, a man by the name of Rusty Brown was very curious as to who canceled their passage and why. So he was able to get a hold of the scheduled uh passengers and they came from all over the world, and he traveled the world to interview them and find out why they canceled. He located nineteen people all over the world, different parts, who canceled because they either had dreams or waking premonitions that the ship would sink, and it would sink because it impacted an iceberg. And he knew these nineteen people were telling the truth because in those days people wrote letters and they would tell their friends and relatives what they were doing and what they were not doing, and they kept diaries, those days were different, and he was able to verify that nineteen people paid attention to their dreams and their gut instincts that the unsinkable ship would not only sink, but it would sink because it impacted an iceberg. So knowing the truth of what the dreams mean can save a life, can change a life, and in the case of the Titanic, saved 19 people. I wonder how many got on board who would have the same dreams and feelings and discounted them.
SPEAKER_00:And I wonder if have you had that? No, have I what?
SPEAKER_03:I was gonna say, have you had a dream you don't understand, or maybe a dream that recurs?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've got a couple of those. Well, there's one uh one that I don't understand. Oh, I thank you for asking, by the way. That's always pretty cool. I'm gonna do that. Um and then one and then uh the two of them that that have uh reoccurred, and I think perhaps it's maybe the in my mind they would be common dreams. I don't know why I think that, but the one that I don't understand, again, we're talking to the Dreamweaver Stephanie Dorn. And uh the one okay, so if I can't gray day to start there. And I still call it stuff like my dream out seems like it's flat. And there were these electrical towers that are in the line. Which are indeed there. I have this device on my back. And I would look up at these power lines and think whatever happens with this device. I can't get too close to these power lines. I don't want to get hooked up there. So it's like where I could hit this button. A couple of hundred feet up in the air, straight up. And then I'd have another little ripcord or whatever, where a little parachute would come out and I would gently float to the ground, put it back in the backpack, and I could do this over and over and over as long as I didn't hit the power lines. Now that's just about as random as you can get, I would imagine. And I'm sure you've heard them all, Stephanie.
SPEAKER_03:I have heard them all. I've never heard one quite like this, but I've basically heard more than probably anybody on the uh on the planet. Um, you know, Pat, this describes you. Let me uh explain. Um you've got the device on your back and the electrical powers are obviously dangerous. So when you get too close to thinking or doing something that might be reckless or a little edgy, you recognize that you better watch your step and you're in charge because you've got the device on your back and you have the button that you can hit. But Pat, you always land on your feet. That's why the parachute. You always land on your feet. You are creative, you have been so successful since we met, and before, but I mean I have watched you surge and four and in radio we're up against things that the audience would never even imagine. But you always land on your feet.
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER_03:Well you've certainly no matter no matter how gray or ambiguous the situation is, you have a sense for where there's risk I won't say danger, but risk and you've got your own back and you've got the power to decide, and when you know it's time, you just hit the parachute button and land on your feet. That's my path.
SPEAKER_00:Stephanie. Stephanie Doran here uh shall uh she'll talk to you about your dreams as well. 916-988-9234. 916-988-9234. That was so sweet that I almost in my mind anyhow, but I almost don't even want to follow up with the uh ones that I feel like are common, but I'll go there. Um, of course, and I'm pretty sure everyone has had this flying. I'm afraid of I'm afraid I'm terrified of heights. I don't like to fly on an airplane, although I do it fairly frequently now. But in my dreams where I'm flying, it's almost like I'm I'm just almost a in opposite of Superman, but I'm not a comic book guy. So I'm not trying to I'm not trying to say that Superman analogy in any way. It's just that the feeling of your arms are out in front of you and your legs flat. So I don't know how else to really describe that. Um, but the other one is variations of this. A lot of times that's why I think it's so common because I've had conversations where Facebook says something about that's kind of a dream in the mind because I was raised playing baseball at the bat, I get a hit, and I hit it out to the outfield, and it's going out to the fence, and the outfield is running for it, and I know I've got a double or a triple, and I can't run. And they're in full speed going for the ball, but I can't run. No, I'm I'm like I'm in quicksand, and I'm like, I can't go, I can't go.
SPEAKER_03:So you've got the flying and the quicksand, right? Yeah. Right. Okay, and they're in they're in separate dreams, right? And then Okay. All right. Well, the flying kind of goes back to the first one we talked about because flying dreams are classic. There are about ten classic dreams. Falling, yeah, falling, flying, um, precognitives, where we dream things that actually come true. Um oh golly, uh giving birth. Even men have dreams that they're giving birth when they're getting yes, when they're giving birth to uh great success or a brand new endeavor. Yeah. But anyway, flying is a classic. That's what I thought. It it's directly connected to the first one we talked about, where you parachute. Flying is about power and success. So when you take off with the confidence that you did mention there was no parachute in this one, uh flying dreams occur when our lives, our relationships, our jobs, our careers are taking flight and we feel empowered, and we feel confident and you show no hesitation there. None. None. So when you have a flying dream, it either means that you are on the rise to say the least, fast forward, upward, or something is going to occur to launch you into the friendly skies. Now the quick sand and I don't want to uh diminish what I just said, the quick sand happens. We are trying to accomplish something and it's not moving or it's not progressing, or it's progressing very slowly, and sometimes things are a process, not an event, and we feel people like you and I um uh we're undaunted. So we always want things to go faster when we are excited about a new venture, etc. And because lots of things are process mode that get us where we need to be, but on time, because I don't question the timing of faith. But um the quick sand is well I'm I'm trying, I'm doing everything I should do on time and I can't I can't gain any ground that I can measure. I'm not drowning, but I'm not making the progress that I want. So if you have a quicksand dream, just slowly roll, shift down, and be patient and keep the faith because you're on your way, but it's just taking a bit longer than you would like. Like all the years I'm just gonna say it that all the years you were the sports guy and look where you are now. Now I'm not diminishing the sports guy, but you wanted more than those of us those of us who know you well and love you much, those you worked with, those you knew, your your audience for those few minutes of being the sports guy, we all knew that you needed more, you wanted more, you deserved more, and you qualified for more. So we could say those were the days of the quicksand. And now you're flying the friendly skies.
SPEAKER_00:That is so Oh, that is so nice. Stephanie Dorne. Yes, yes. I bet she's the dream weaver, by the way. Yes, Stephanie.
SPEAKER_03:I bet you haven't had a quickstand dream in quite a while.
SPEAKER_00:I just say that that occurred to me. So I played it for Stephanie when I we did it. Oh those years.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_00:How many years did you do your show? The very highly rated Dreamweaver show, Stephanie Doran.
SPEAKER_03:Eighteen years. Eighteen years, and that included. Yeah. That song makes my heart smile and makes my eyes get misty.
SPEAKER_00:We worked together before I met Stephanie Dorn with 650. And you first were good with a gentleman by the name of Lanier. Um and then he and Derek Murray were good friends. Never in a hurry, Derek Murray, who hired me at that radio station. And then, you know, you you and I and there were so many unique personalities, Jeff Metcalf. Just so many unique personalities. Uh Chris Collinsworth, we all tried to try to shape a state and it would go after the big dog, which is KFBK, which is a state that I have been working for for uh many, many years. But uh but I of course I was part of that KSTE team. And that's where Stephanie and I and I got to know each other. Um yeah, talk about your your incredible career there at KSTE and beyond.
SPEAKER_03:Well, excuse me. Um it started actually with Chris Collins from uh 102.5 cm.
SPEAKER_00:And if I said Collinsworth, that's my mistake. I hope I said Collins. In my mind, I go, God, I hope I said Chris Collins.
SPEAKER_03:No, it's it's Collins.
SPEAKER_00:Of course it is, yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:But anyway, I have been a guest on radio and TV all over Northern California, and um all over. I can't tell you how many places. And I was teaching a class on the basics of dream interpretation, and there was a man in my class named um his last name was Sobone. He was in the advertising department at KFBK, and he said, I think you'd make a great guest on the Chris Collins show. Well, I had never listened to Chris Collins, so the arrangements were made that I was going to be a guest this particular morning, and I'm not a morning person, Pat, and I was told to be at the studio at six o'clock in the morning, and I had to get up at like four thirty in the morning to get myself together and get in the car and get to the studio. And on the way over, I listened for the first time to his show. Well, they were about four guys, talented, talented guys. One could do imitations, one they were all bantering and beating each other up verbally and having it just a hell of a good time, and they were rowdy and hilarious, and I I was listening thinking, oh my god, I'm gonna be in the arena with these guys because there was there was no other woman. So, anyway, in typical radio fashion, they'll have a guest, and often they'll just kind of throw you in on a break, and the host might not even know your name, and in this case, that's what happened. So on a quick break, well, it was almost over, they basically just kind of ushered me in fast, threw me in a chair, torned at a headset, and Chris looked up and he said, Oh, we have a guest today. Uh, but he didn't know who I was, he didn't know my name. So he said, We have a guest who can interpret your dreams, so we invite your calls and she will tell you about your dreams. And he was going on and on and on because he was trying to figure out who I was. So Chris Chris was unbelievably fast and sharp, and the best he could do was to reach behind him and grabbed what we called a cart in those days. Remember that? Oh, yes. And he threw on Dreamweaver, and he said, and she's here to take your calls, the Dreamweaver. He didn't know who I was, so he named me.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, is that how that happened? Oh my god. That's how it happened. Chris Collins named you the Dreamweaver.
SPEAKER_03:Because he didn't know my name.
SPEAKER_00:That's great. That is that's great. I love that story. As an inside radio person, I really appreciate that. That's happened a couple of times uh in my radio show. So I I appreciate those uh spontaneous moments that click and really change a, you know, give you that permanent nickname that really I mean it's really stuck.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, it totally stuck. And I was to be there for half an hour. Well, they had at least twelve lines coming in, and the lines jammed, and the guys kept looking at each other and looking at the lights all lit, and they were absolutely jammed. So instead of staying for a half an hour, he kept me for an hour and a half, and at the end of that hour and a half, he said, Well, the dreamweaver's been so popular and so interesting the way she can crack the code on these dreams that uh she'll be back tomorrow with us. And I went, What? In my mind, I almost fell out of the chair. Uh she'll be back with us tomorrow. And I thought, Oh my god, I had to get up at 4 30 to do this today. Now he wants me for tomorrow. So I did it the second day for two hours, and the lines were jammed before I got there. So at the end of the second day, he said, Well, the dreamweaver is such a hit and so much fun because these guys could dish it out, and you know, the newest one gets uh thrown in the barrel, and I was the newest one, but I could give it back just as well as I could take it. And they thought, Yes. Uh all the warm-uping and all the dantering and I could uh meet them on their own territory. At the end of the second day, he said, Well, the Dreamweaver is such a hit, we are officially making her a part of the Chris Collins morning zoo. I almost fell out of my chair again. So I was there for about a year, three times a week. Starting at at sometimes 5 30, sometimes six.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, because initially when you said, Well, he was gonna have you on for a half hour, as soon as I heard that, I thought, no, well, a half hour is never gonna work because the reality of radio is that within that That half hour. Even on a radio station like KSTE back then that was brand new. You still have breaks, they've got cold breaks. So within a half hour's time, you might have some other elements along with your uh commercial breaks or what have you. Um I can guarantee you it's gonna take it takes at least an hour and a half to get enough people. Uh I mean to get to a lot of people, and it takes the time with a caller, but it takes a little time. You know, it takes a few years. It has to be a few in order to get on there with it. Because it takes a little bit of time. So fast it could take up to an hour and a half to see where that easily would happen. And then you and I started working together fast, which and then you and I became friends, which uh which was really great. And you were one of the best people I ever worked with. I always truly enjoyed working with you. People would always say, like Gary Dietrich, I saw Gary Dietrich last week uh week, a good friend of mine, political analyst at KBK, uh, said I was gonna talk to you, and he said, Oh, oh my gosh, Dreamweaver's voice. It's just so soothing. I could almost go to sleep. It was so relaxing listening to her voice. I'm sure you got that quite often.
SPEAKER_03:I did. I did. And I got people who would be in their cars, and I'm sure the same thing happens with you, Pat, but they'd be in their cars, they'd be listening, and they'd get home, go into their garages, and they wanted to hear the end of the call, so they'd sit in their garage and listen to the program so they wouldn't miss anything in the garage. And uh this is uh this is hilarious, and you love this. When KSTE first came to town, we didn't have a station of our own and we shared uh a station with a um it was uh Mexican broadcasting.
SPEAKER_02:That's right.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. And they were all um Mexican programs, but they were nice enough to make some sort of a deal where they would let us in and give us I don't know, maybe two mics and two little cubicles. Anyway, so when I when I would be there, um I'd have to press a button at the outside door and it would ring and they were supposed to come and open the door. Well, I would press the button and nobody would come. So one night after I was pounding and begging and screaming because it was almost, you know, showtime. I mean, I was within maybe one or two minutes and I was still in the parking lot. A pizza delivery company drove up and they screamed, pizza, and the door opened. So after that, when I would go each time, I wouldn't even ring the bell. I would just yell pizza and they'd open the door.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, that is great.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, that is great. And it works. You know, you know how many pizzas get delivered to a radio station.
SPEAKER_00:That's true. Talking with Stephanie Doran, the Dreamweaver here at Dots Beep 372. So nice to talk to you and and to know that Chris Collins rest in peace. We just lost Chris. I gave you that nickname. Did you not know this? No. Yeah, we just lost Chris.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I'm very sorry to hear that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I'm sorry to break it to you.
SPEAKER_03:Always, he was always very dear to me.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And what a talent. God, he was quick. He was so quick.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, yes. Very talented, ended up being a um uh an announcer with the San Jose Sharks.
SPEAKER_03:But he had that uh he would go do the Sharks and come back and do that program right after he got back. He'd be up all night long.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. He was a hardworking guy, for sure.
SPEAKER_03:Very hardworking. So sorry to hear that.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I thought for some reason I thought that you that you knew about that, so I'm sorry to break that to you here. So yeah, we Yep. Mm-hmm. In fact, I paid uh tribute to him on one of my recent podcasts, so yeah, we miss, we miss Chris. So Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I can't tell you how wonderful it is to be with you today, to laugh with you, to reminisce with you, and the stories. We could go on for months, eons, with what goes on behind the scenes and our experiences and what it's really like if the audience knew what really went on behind the scenes. Uh it would be more entertained and shocked than when they're listening to what comes across the air. It's a different it's it's a different world. And um I it was the best part of my entire life. It was of all my experiences and relationships, marriages, successes, opportunities. It was the best part of my excuse me whole life. I was passionate about it and loved it with all my heart.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, you and then that's what it takes to do this right. You have to have that passion, and I can assure you, knowing Stephanie Doran, one of the many things that I respect about you is your passion. Um your gentle soul, your passion, your honesty, uh, your ability, as you mentioned a little bit ago, to you can hang with four dudes and you can ditch it out as much as you can get it. You can mix it up with anyone. People don't know about that. You're a beautiful woman, always smells good. You're always happy to you're always happy to run a, you know, produce to to produce her show. Um, you know, I would always try to find good music, and I can remember playing the musical beds, and you would just oh, I love this one. You know, and we would always we always worked really well together, Stephanie. You know, and um and I and I appreciate you being a good friend too.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you're very dear to me, Pat. You always have been. Being the only woman at the time to have her own show. Uh not every man who was a host was uh thrilled to have a woman on board. They kind of took it as competition. I wasn't competing with anybody, I was just doing my thing. But um I was the only woman host, and you were always so nice and fun and pleasant and we Irish bantered and just had one heck of a good time.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I I remember the dreams and how you and Lanier would frame each one with a song that would make it like a vignette all by itself. So we'd talk about the dream, and then when we got the gist of the dream, uh in the background, especially as we were wrapping it up, you and Lanier would choose a song that would uh either make my point or make people smile, or bring tears to their eyes. Uh one one quick one, a woman lost her mother. Her mother was very sick and she was her lady was taller, was very very sad, and she kept having dreams that she was going to the cemetery and looking for her mother night after night after night, and she couldn't find her mother. And she was suffering for years, and uh when she explained the dream to me, and I explained it to her, I said, Well, your mother's not there. Your mother's not at the cemetery, her body is there, but her soul is somewhere else, probably watching over and listening right now. And she said she never had truly accepted the mother's death, but it made sense, and it was either you or Lanier who played Strangers in the Night. Strangers in the Night.
SPEAKER_00:Frank Sinatra? No, that's probably that's probably Lanier on that one, but I but it yeah. I don't recall that, so I can't say for sure, but yeah.
SPEAKER_03:But uh we used any music. It wasn't always current, it didn't have to be. Sure. And uh when a when a woman's husband was cheating on her and she refused to uh believe it and would tolerate it, you know, the standard would be stand by your man, you know. So that would play. Each one was framed with music. And I was told by the bosses that it was what they called old fashioned radio, where they did their own sound effects and they they did all that kind of stuff, but just didn't expedite the calls, but made each one a story with a song.
SPEAKER_00:I agree. Stephanie Dorne, I was happy to do it. I want to say thank you, Stephanie. There's speaking of songs, but some number nine dream, John Lennon. Stephanie, um, I appreciate your time today. It's so wonderful to hear your voice. It's wonderful to talk with you. I have a feeling we may have a part two in the works, too, right?
SPEAKER_03:You know, I was gonna actually be polite enough and bold enough to ask you if you ever have uh regulars or people invited back, because we have so much that's interesting, funny, and uh wonderful to relive and for the audience to to know and to share.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. So the answer is yes.
SPEAKER_03:Whenever you're whenever you're ready for uh two, three, four, or five, you know the number.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you, Stephanie. Thank you I love you, Pat. Love you too, Stephanie.
SPEAKER_03:I love you, my friend.
SPEAKER_00:Love you too.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you for the invitation.
SPEAKER_00:Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER_03:And the same to you. You've made my day.
SPEAKER_00:And you've made mine. Bye just for now, my friend. Stephanie Dorn, the Dreamweaver. That's P372. Thank you. Have a great Monday. See you on the radio.
