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Ep. 380 Today's Peep Rewinds Our Conversation with My Friend, Congressman Doug LaMalfa who Passed Last Night. We Honor His Legacy with His Thoughts on Topics Such As Climate Policy, Dams, Wildfires, Public Safety & More
Sun poured through the blinds, but the day felt heavy—we lost our friend and frequent guest, Congressman Doug LaMalfa. To honor his legacy, we rewound to our milestone conversation that shows him at his clearest: a fourth-generation rice farmer who asked for baselines before billion-dollar climate plans, and who insisted that policy be built to work in real towns with real jobs.
We walk through the hard numbers behind EV mandates and freight: battery weight eats payload, which means more trucks on the road and more strain on an already fragile grid. Then we head upriver to the dam removals reshaping the Northwest, where hydropower once delivered steady, CO2-free baseload power. LaMalfa details the silt plumes, stranded wildlife, and downstream consequences that rarely make headlines. We dig into forest management and power-line clearance, backup generators and blackouts, and the uneasy math of telling people to evacuate while warning them not to charge their cars.
Public safety and homelessness bring the debate to the street level. We break apart the blanket labels: people down on luck, those battling addiction or mental illness, and those choosing camps because rules feel restrictive. Help works best when it’s paired with accountability and measured outcomes. On crime, we challenge policies that sideline useful tools and pretend problems are optics. And through it all runs a call to civic responsibility: read the fine print on ballot measures, vote early when you can, and demand results over slogans.
This tribute isn’t soft-focus. It’s spirited, specific, and grounded in work boots and committee rooms. If you care about energy reliability, water storage, forest health, safer neighborhoods, and smarter voting, you’ll find plenty to agree with—and plenty to debate. Subscribe, share with a friend who loves a good policy argument, and tell us: which issue should leaders fix first?
Welcome to the Pat Peach Podcast. Number three hundred and eighty. Three hundred and eighty. It is the sixth day of January, twenty twenty six. Still have to get used to saying 2026. My name is Pat Walsh. I'm the host of the Pat Walt Show heard on KFTK Radio in Sacramento, 93.1 FM, 1530 a.m. streaming live everywhere on the free iHeart app. And uh it's the Pat Walsh Show. And we are back with the show. Of course, I came back to work actually Friday night, but uh after a couple of weeks off, and then uh and then last night, and then of course I'm back tonight. And today being it is a Tuesday, as I say, the sixth day of January 2026. I was very excited to wake up this morning and open up my blinds. And what do I see? The first thing to greet me in the morning is the beautiful rays of the sun. Outstanding. To see a little sunshine after a couple of weeks of fog and rain. Actually, more than that. Well, you know, up here we were a little bit spoiled while the while the valley had the fog. We had sunshine up here in my neck of the woods, like I was telling you. But the sunshine is back. Makes it feel good. Makes me feel good. Have the sunshine back. Even though it is a beautiful day, today is a day where I'm pretty sad about what happened. And I just learned about this this morning. And that will be the focus of today's Pat's Peeps podcast number 380. By the way, let me consult my desk calendar. I said I was going to do this throughout the year. Thank you to Gail for my what this is the Headlines in History. Headlines in History from the New York Times. 365 remarkable stories from the New York Times archives. And because I missed a couple of days, maybe I should catch up on this real quick. Yesterday, the 5th of January, one of the former Times headlines, Nixon rejects subpoenas from Senate Committee for 500 tapes and papers. We all remember that, right? If you were around, you remember it. If you're not, you weren't, maybe you don't. But it was called Watergate. January 5th, 1974, to produce material you now seek would unquestionably destroy any vestige of confidentiality of presidential communications. The Times reported President Nixon writing to the Senate Watergate Committee. Nixon resisted previous attempts by the committee to gain access to recordings of his conversations and phone calls. In July, the Supreme Court ruled unanimously that he had he had to release those tapes. Going to the Senate, today, in headline history from the New York Times, the headline reads, Senate opens fanciest subway this side of Moscow. January 6, 1965, U.S. Senate opened up a$2 million subway line in Washington, running a thousand feet from the new Senate office building to the U.S. Capitol. Russell Baker reported in the Times the Senate uh Chaplin described the system's four air-conditioned cars as quote, swift chariots of democracy. That's awesome. The new line was an upgrade from the two-car monorail system that had been in place for years. Today the Capitol subway system consists of three lines: two on the Senate side, one on the House side. But today I'm very sad because we I have lost a friend. We have lost a friend, and that would be Congressman Doug Lamalfa, a champion of many causes that I believe in. I got the word from Cecilia this morning and then from several people. The Republican Doug Lamalfa, the California rice farmer, who served seven terms in the U.S. House. Doug Lamalfa, the congressman, experienced a medical emergency last night, taken to the local hospital, where he died during a surgical procedure. We need to count our blessings. This poor man. The President expressing tremendous sorrow over Lamalfa's death. He addressed a meeting of House represent uh Republicans today, lamenting the loss of the lawmaker that, quote, wasn't a three o'clock in the morning person like other lawmakers. He would call in the wee hours to lobby for their votes. Doug Lamaltha was very down-to-earth, a fourth-generation rice farmer elected to Congress in 2012 after serving in the state legislature, representing California's first district, covered a vast portion of the state's rural north, and his part of the state was affected by this Prop 50 BS by the our illustrious loser governor. Doug Lamoth was a regular president on the House floor, helped the GOP leadership open the chamber, frequently offered his view on local and national affairs. He served on the House Agricultural Committee, Agriculture Committee, as the chairman of a subcommittee with jurisdiction over forestry issues. He knew what he was talking about. He served on committees dealing with transportation and natural resource issues. So with that in mind, I thought we would go back and listen. This will be my first rerun on a Pat's Peeps. But we're gonna go back to Pat's Peeps milestone 50th episode and roll out the red carpet for our special guest, Congressman Doug Lamalta. Welcome back to the Pat's Peeps podcast. Today is my milestone episode. Episode number 50. Uh I've been trying to get this gentleman on my show for a bit of time now, and uh this is a guy who I respect very much, someone who I admire, and it turns out someone I agree with. Uh so please welcome to the Pat's Peeps podcast number 50. Congressman Doug Lamolf is joining us. Congressman, it's a pleasure to have you with us on my podcast this morning.
SPEAKER_01:Well, thank you for having me on. Now you you uh you you give me a sure a lot of kudos there. I've uh I'm I'm glad to glad to be with you, glad for your work on your broadcast. Thank you for that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, thank you. So uh for those of you who don't know, I I host the Pat Wall show on KFEK Radio. I do three hours a night, Monday through Friday, and this is just uh in addition to that. I want to start with with uh Doug Lamaltha, Congressman Doug Lamaltha, uh who and I want to start with this because going back to 2004, we were in the same class of the uh Butte College most outstanding alumni, along with the Super Bowl champion uh Larry Allen of the Dallas Cowboys, chair elite, uh who is part of the Butte County Supervisors. She was in that that class, um, myself, and then you. And uh if we could go back, and let me just give everyone uh sort of your your credentials, Jerry. There's a lot more to your resume, obviously, but you're a native of Oroville. Tell me if I get anything wrong. Uh you were an assemblyman at that time for the 2nd District, if as I recall, from my go-to to 08, and you became a senator. Uh can we talk just kind of start there, Congressman Lamotha, about Butte College. You're remembering that night uh and that honor and how Butte College sort of changed your life because it certainly changed mine.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you're you're going back in the archives there, for sure. So yeah, I've uh I attended there between 1980 and 82 and uh received an AA degree there, and it was it was ideal because you know it's uh excuse me, 78 to 80, uh 80, 82 was Cal Poly. So yeah, get the numbers right. Anyway, 78 to 80, right out of high school. It was the perfect, perfect uh bridge from uh going to uh well the high school anyway, but it probably additionally even a very small rural high school to uh get out into that more serious world of the college education and the discipline that's required for that. Uh it was obviously really close to home. I could uh live at home and still work on my farm here with the family and uh and then you know as I'm earning that AA degree in uh in uh general education and with uh you know an agricultural bent to it. That's uh music has a really great ag school there. Um it just helps shape and define what I should do for my four-year. Well, I'm sure a lot of a lot of kids that age don't really know for sure what it is they want to major in. And these days it seems like it's even tougher to decide for for kids. I mean I know I had an idea, but I thought, well, let's lease school test the field. So anyway, whistled through there two years of the AA degree, went on down to Cal Poly Celestia. Um which uh I think the um being accepted to Cal Poly was a lot easier having having gone the junior college route and getting that AA and uh I I think a lot more students are doing that these days. They would find an easier path to the four-year school as well. And and you're again you're saving money, you're you're able to uh uh stay at home, you can get that education transition from from high school into the college uh range there. That's yeah, and you can do it at lower costs, you can do it with less just overall stress of you know, student housing and and and maybe a big move to a four-year school. So I'm a big believer in it, definitely. So I was uh honored to be able to you know be recognized by Beauty for I don't know. It was uh I I mean I was a state legislator at a time, so I guess that was in in the in their eyes uh uh something that was uh worth noting. So, you know, I I don't think I was a red hot student or anything like that, but uh so so you know, I I guess I guess it, you know, kinda helps maybe buoy others like look, you know, college provides an opportunity to go do anything, be a great uh offensive tackle in pro football or a broadcaster or uh a legislator or you know, whatever. So it's uh it's uh it's uh it it's it is a a very good uh a very good way to uh take that next step.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and it's uh and everything you mentioned, everything from uh all of the reasons saving money, but uh the other thing that I found, and you mentioned this, is uh it also provides you a little bit of time in case you're not sure what you want to do. You can kind of explore some things that are going on out there which was very helpful. Uh if it weren't for Bugh College, uh I wouldn't be talking to you right now. And I'm very proud, Congressman Lamalfa, to be in the same most outstanding alumni class with you and Larry and Cheryl from 2004. Uh just also a reminder when you hear uh Congressman Lamalfa speak about being uh you know working on the farm, you were a fourth generation rice farmer, is that correct? Out of you lived in Oroville, is that right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're just uh west of Oroville a little ways in the rice country there. So uh it's uh it's certainly been a lifelong family deal on two different branches of the family, and the fifth generation's taking over right now.
SPEAKER_03:You know, I'm uh I I my show is not a political show, and I want everyone to know that. And my I don't sit and I don't harp on politics all of the time. I recognize a lot of the things at everybody else's.
SPEAKER_01:I know.
SPEAKER_03:That's why I'm trying to be a little refreshing and get away from that. Let everyone else talk about it and argue and fight. But I'm I'm gonna say this. You know, uh, Congressman Lamalfa, when I watch you, when I listened to you, you speak for me. And you speak on behalf of so many people. Let me start with this. Because there's so many places I can start with you. So I'm gonna start with this. Congressman Lamalfa, I'm looking out my window like I said, my gosh, I saw some rain over the past few days. I'm thinking, wow, that must be climate change, because I'm seeing rain. And I love it when you this is what I love about you, because we both have a little bit of cynicism, a little bit of sarcasm, just a wee bit. And I love it when you say, yeah, this is called autumn. This is winter. And then you go off and you tell them. You ask poignant questions. Tell me about the CO2 in the atmosphere, and they can never answer. You've called them on it. So let's start right there if we can. Let's start with climate change. Because apparently, Congressman Lamalfa, this is the biggest issue facing us worldwide. What are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, yeah. Well, it is it is the biggest issue when our own government is using that against us. You know, so many and at the state level and the federal level, it's it's been weaponized against the actual things people need. I mean, they're attacking farming, they're attacking agriculture. John Kerry runs on, we need to reduce agriculture by thirty percent. You hear these European folks talking about in uh in two or three European countries, I think uh Holland, I think Germany, I think France. That's so they've uh the farmers have pushed back hard. And you've seen probably the s the stories of you know uh the tractor cade saying, you know, you guys are killing us here. You know, I Ireland talking about pulling three hundred thousand dairy cows. So where where are you gonna get dairy products? Well there's a lot of people want to be anti-dairy now. You know, it's about taking away choices of normal things that people use and need and enjoy because of a few crazies that want to go dump red dye on uh the Constitution or throw throw paint on the Mona Lisa or you know glue themselves to the pavement. These aren't rational people. Okay, this is this is not how you win arguments or persuade others is is with this. So it just it makes people angry and it doesn't really add to the credibility. So yeah, I I like to uh I like to add, okay, so what what is your baseline? You know, the the people that are in front of me in committee with uh pitching you know electric cars and you know, we're gonna transition to all electric trucks and vehicles and such by 2035 or you know, whatever number they pick out of the sky, whatever year they pick out of the sky. Well that sounds great. Twenty by twenty twenty and thirty by twenty thirty, and just uh whatever's a state legislator. You watch that with uh um trying to go to uh green uh green electricity and they just make up a number and they say, Well, that's our goal. Like well uh the the power to legislate is a pretty uh awesome responsibility. And you got in Sacramento 120 of them, all with big ideas. I think the maximum bills limit, someone told me it's fifty each now. Uh it's incredible, it's about twenty when I was there. And that's that's a lot. So you know, what's 120 times fifty? That's they can introduce six thousand bills at the state level in a two-year period. You know, I mean there's just not that much broken about California, these six thousand big ideas and and all trying to get press and headlines and such. So, you know, this week I was in two different committees, one of them was the Ag Committee. We had the Secretary of Agriculture there, Mr. Vilsack, and they've they've implemented you know, there's there's several conservation programs that incentivizes farmers to do certain things in ways that kind of helps wildlife or you know, maybe preserve species or you know uh a lot you know a lot a lot of you know really positive things, right? Well they they've added during the Biden administration one called climate spark. They want to tie up CO2 in the ground, they want to sequester CO2 in the ground via farming methods. Okay, that's fine and handy, I guess. You know, making carbon stay in the ground. So they have this goal with the billions of dollars they got in one of those uh um partisan bills they passed. Part of it was in the so-called infrastructure act, part of it in the uh um inflation reduction act, which is a laughable name. Inflation reduction by government spending trillions more. That's funny. So anyway, they they have this in the ag in the ag plant for USCA, we're gonna have climate smart, so we want farmers to change their methods in order to uh tie up CO2, and I think the goal was sixty million tons of carbon tied up over a five year period. So I asked the secretary, so this seems to be your goal here for this program. What's the baseline? Where are we starting from on this? So so we kind of know where the goal starts and how we get there. So, sir, what is the percentage of CO2 we actually have in our atmosphere? And he just so oh I I don't know that number. Like you you don't know that. So how does anybody know what where the starting line is or how many miles the race is to, you know, I mean NASCAR is coming up on us here, so how many race tires do you actually have behind the bed? How many how many how many crew members, you know, how how many quart quartz of oil they need an extra battery if I go 500 miles or something gonna happen, you know, it's and and uh and all those things. You don't know where the baseline is of what you're starting from. You just we're just gonna pick a number and we're gonna we're gonna sequester 16 million tons. Great. Well but the the you know the Secretary of Transportation, I asked the Matt and the Transportation Committee didn't know the number. I did throw the autumn line in there too, and he tried to get me back. But um it's uh it's they don't know. The panelists, the the experts come out there, well we're gonna make our truck they go by you know 2020 five or something. Well, what's our CO2 number? And I asked the whole panel, none of them was even close. No. So we're gonna take our electric stoves, our electric excuse me, force us into electric instead of gas stoves.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And our our lawnmowers and our leaf blowers and our cars and even trucks. You know, for example, on a truck, a normal truck you see going up and down the road, the the gross weight of the truck trailers and the payload is 80,000 pounds, typically, unless it's got a special permit. Right? So a typical truck, like one of my rice trucks with two grain trailers, weighs about twenty-four thousand pounds empty, just the truck. They call it the tear weight C A R E. So if you remove the the diesel engine and the tranny that goes with it, and replace that with an electric motor and especially the battery packs, you add sixteen thousand pounds for the dual battery packs you have to put in there to do that. And so that means you've taken sixteen thousand pounds of payload off of an overall uh eighty thousand pound truck with breakup. Into the payload, which is, you know, fifty-six thousand out of uh the eighty. I don't throw a lot of numbers here, but uh sixteen thousand loss. That means you're gonna have to have at least one-fifth to one-third more trucks going up and down the road to do the same job.
SPEAKER_03:Talking with Congressman Doug Lamarck.
SPEAKER_01:That's my rant. That's my rant on that.
SPEAKER_03:I love your rants. I love your rants because again, you speak for so many of us. But here's the thing, you have to understand they're saving it, Congressman, because now very soon, maybe in the next few years, listen, we're gonna have a bullet train from Bakersfield to Merced, so that should solve most everything, right? I mean, we have the bullet train.
SPEAKER_01:I I always laugh at that. Remember the show called Petticoat Junction?
SPEAKER_03:I sure do, sure I do. Uncle Joe moving kind of slow with the junction, yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it was about a little train that had been and the people that live along the route that had been cut off from the main line. So basically, this is cut off from the main line, and uh on the show they depicted uh three towns. Hooterville on one end, then the then the the hotel in the middle of the route, and the other end was a town called Pixley. Pixley, yeah. You know what's funny about this? Right now the route goes from very near Pixley, California at the south end to Merced in the north, is what they'll have done all then within 20 years. So it's just funny, man. It's funny.
SPEAKER_03:That's just everything right there. I mean, forget about the fact that what the uh I mean, just the cost of this thing is like tripled. I mean, since the beginning, and we've gotten nowhere with it. You drive down the highway. It's quadruple, you know? And it's nothing. And here's another part of this, too. You know, go back to the electric cars. Uh there's a recent story out, Congressman, where Hertz, I believe it was Hertz selling back their electric vehicle stock because no one wants these electric vehicles when they're renting. People don't want to drive, you know, oh I got 100 miles, and now the next thing you know, where's an electric vehicle? You can't rely on them, man. Yeah. You can't rely on them.
SPEAKER_01:You saw a story maybe uh about a year ago, a guy I think in Michigan was gonna he took a rental. No, he bought a new, he bought a new electric pickup with the camper. The whole worse is gonna take off from Michigan and go, I believe, to the West Coast. And he made it about two states, and he he actually pulled into a dealer and and pulled in and traded it in for I think he probably got a diesel pickup. He traded in because he could not deal with the nonsense of having to stop and charge, you know. So and I'm not gonna sit here, Pat, and say, Oh, nobody can have one or whatever. There's there's a there might be a ditch that electric vehicles fit certain people's needs. I can imagine those folks that uh drive down from Roseville to Sacramento every day and they only have to rely on thirty, thirty-five, forty miles, whatever it is. And they can pull up to a free state charger and plug in, work their eight-hour job, and then turn around and go back up to Roseville or wherever. Maybe that works for them. Then they can drive in the fast lane because they got their special privilege sticker and that and not have to be with all the other plebes out there just trying to make a living. But it's just it's just uh it's just, you know, it's it's canted towards something that doesn't make a lot of sense. At the same time, Pat, up in the north end of my district, they're working a way to tear out four hydroelectric dams that make uh uh base base load power. Base load means that it's power that you can rely on anytime and in a volume that actually matters. You know, as you can turn on the gates on a hydro plant and make power right now. You don't have to wait for the sun to come up, the quads to go away that you're looking at out the window, or the wind to blow. Okay? So you have reliable baseload power you can use at any moment. And so they're tearing those four dams out, is what they hope to do. One of the four is gone, the others are they're starting to uh you know do bad things too. And that'll be base load power that's gone. And that means also CO2 free power if you want to play the CO two game, which I don't. But that's CO2 free power that you people say you want. You want electricity to power stoves and lawnmowers and leaf blowers and cars and trucks, and they even talk about airplanes. And and uh and you you're you want to and you're taking away the way to generate the power and forcing us into something that needs power that you can't generate. What is their argument for that?
SPEAKER_03:Why why is there argument for tearing these dams down?
SPEAKER_01:The the same people aren't in the room on both sides of the argument. The one tearing the dams down, we need it for fish passage. You know? So the dams have been there for an anywhere from sixty to a hundred years, and you should see the nastiness that's coming out of there. They've unplugged the torque at the bottom of a couple of 'em. And what they've released has been these decades worth of buildup of silt there that happens at the bottom. You know, you have uh runoff and things that happen over years. There used to be some mining in the area, so back in the old days of uh some types of gold mining and others, and so anyway, you you you got all this sludge now coming polluting the river all the way down. It's gone about 130 miles to plume so far from uh the Oregon border area towards the uh Pacific out there coming out at um um in uh heck w the on the coast there anyway. So it it's um it's it's been it's been a gigantic boondog. You ought to see the I've actually do I've done a few speeches on the house floor about it just to show the rest of the country on C SPAN what the heck is going on when they have these pie in the sky deals. There's dead deer. There's deer that go wander out and got stuck in the muck. Normally they go out there and swim across or get a drink, whatever they got stuck in the muck. At least eight of them in one instance there were in fish in game, hopelessly standing on the shore looking at it finally, but they bring their sharpshooter out and shoot the deer, so they don't have to hear the bleeping and wow and crying of the deer and stuff. Yeah, Klambus River, man, check it out. Dam removal, the largest dam removal project in the history of America is how they brag. You know, so you may remember Bruce Bruce Babbitt years ago during the Clinton era debacle when the he would say, Oh, I want to be the first secretary to turn down a damn. Well, they're they're they're having their heyday right now. The Snake River up north in uh Washington, that's under threat, and it's a very important one for the barge work we get for uh moving ag products up and down there. Uh, you know, barges are pretty darn efficient. As well as the hydropower that's gonna be lost over in Mendocino, they want to get rid of uh one on the Eel River, which is very important for a lot of farmers in the in the part of the wine country and some of the other products that are grown over there. They want to get rid of uh that dam on the Eel River. It's just one thing after another. We have lots and destruction by um this Newsom administration and the Biden one with their environmental stuff. Newsome is hell bent on on a new salmon salmon uh rescue here, which you know, that's fine. You know, what do you do about species and such, but they're doing things that don't make sense. We have hundreds of you know we have oh, how much is going millions of acre feet are just flowing out the delta that are not being captured by a dam or being rerouted by the pumps at the south end of the delta. Only a percentage is being taken during these high flows. It's just one thing after another of mismanagement, I think intentional mismanagement by uh state water board at that level, by all the other ones. Our border is is being intentionally mismanaged. I mean, you could just keep going down the list, and I know uh I probably sound like a raving lunatic here, maybe some, but it goes on and I live and I watch and I observe it every day. I speak out against it, we work on legislating as we try to fix the border situation. Excuse my voice.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's okay. It's okay. It's morning, you know, it's early on.
SPEAKER_01:We passed we passed a bill uh called HR2 early on in this congressional session in 2023. And it's sitting there languishing in the Senate. It puts some basic things in, like more funding to finish building the fence, more personnel there to control the border, and some fixes on what asylum actually means. Ninety percent of the people that present at the border are not there because of a uh persecution thing in the country they come from. They're looking here for either economic opportunity jobs or they just want to get on our programs here. So uh I I should pause there because I keep going back. What's what what else?
SPEAKER_03:Uh listen, uh I got I'd I as I'm listening to you, Congressman Doug Lamalfa joining us, I am I have so many questions. Everything that you're talking about, you know what, when you say uh ranting like a lunatic, uh maybe some people feel that way, but these are all things that are very important. Just on what you've just talked about right now. Let me just throw a few things out there. First of all, I'm gonna say this that people want to laugh at me, if they want to criticize me, if they want to whatever they want to say, but my feeling is that the voters are very dangerous. So I think the voters are the voters as a whole. In California, we have six dollars to get five or whatever. Farmers for that. These wildfires are many times because we have people careless, we have these, we all have stories, but the failure to manage these forests. And we have a wildfire. That's what we're gonna say. We've got to do some standing there and saying that. Well, for those of you who don't believe in climate change, look at the effects all around you. Why? Because of climate change? No, it's because a couple of people were up in the forest boiling berry urine for God knows whatever reason, they start the place on fire because you haven't managed the forest. I better stop right there, take a breath, and let you speak.
SPEAKER_01:You're absolutely right on that. You know, he he came out with some ambitious plan that the state would do some uh extensive uh forestry work on lands it controls or partners with or whatever. Well, at the end of the day, they did barely 10% of what they bragged about they were going to do. They don't mean this. They're completely cahoots with the environmental group on water, on on forest management, on groundwater, on on on every out you know, they won't obviously stopping energy production of the state. They don't care about the hydroelectric dams, they've tout salmon. They we barely saved the nuclear power plant down at San Luis Obispo, we, they, whatever, for additional five years of life, which that that one plant is nine percent of the power grid for the state and what it produces. Nine percent of steady baseload power you can rely on day day in, day out, all day long. And they were they were going to let it expire until I think somebody wised up just enough to see the numbers. Can you imagine taking nine percent of an already precarious grid away? So uh it's it's uh the the thrust of it is that Newsom is just positions himself to be uh a hero in in these very narrow groups, of whether it's environmentalists, whether it's you know transsexuals, whether it's uh you know illegal immigrants coming in. He wants to give them, you know, passes to come in and get on all of our programs, get on all of our um all of our assistance, you know, ab abortion, abortion tourism. They want to come uh attract people in to pay for abortions, and they every immoral thing you can think of, they they have a green light for it. It's it's unbelievable what we have going on with these guys. So if Newsom is gonna be the backup quarterback for the Democrats in this November presidential, then we gotta get the word out. You know, my colleagues in Congress were constantly talking about dumb ideas that come from California. I'm sitting there in committee and the ones ahead of me in the committee. Yeah, that we see in California where they're doing this with EPA or doing this with uh carb or what have you, their resources board. And when we when we have a mandate that happens here, that there's actually a coalition of states that are starting to act like this, about thirteen or fourteen, that want to put the same stuff through on uh limiting what you know trucks can what engines you can have in trucks or how much weight they can deliver, you know, all these kinds of things. They they just uh th we have a little group of states that's following us now, but you know, the liberal blue states that everybody's moving out of up in the northeast or the upper Midwest, and uh you know, but it's uh as they escape for Texas like Elon Musk is, you know. I see where Elon moved his uh corporate uh entity from Delaware, which you know Delaware for a long time has been a place to incorporate because it escapes a lot of other things of higher tax and regulatory states, you know, credit card companies, so many of them locate in Delaware. Well, that's that's gonna start trending out. I guess maybe it's Biden living there that's starting to slough off of you know the all the paperwork he keeps in his garage next to the Corvette.
SPEAKER_03:Next to the weed eater. Anyone who does that, I mean anyone, I don't care. I you know what this is my just this is not Congressman's opinion, but mine. Anyone who does that, you you gotta really rethink what you're doing there, whether it's Trump or Biden, whomever it is, that's just wrong if you're you know, these documents sitting by a weed eater and a g and a lawnmower in the garage. You know, a couple of other things that I'm listening to you. One of the most brilliant ideas of California, hey, besides water heaters, you know, the gas gas dose, let's ban gas powered generators. Now, I'm sorry, am I missing it? That's just genius, Pat.
SPEAKER_01:That is genius. What am I missing? I I I'm not allowed to use excludes on your broadcast here, but what are they thinking on you know how what what are what what for past Pat, let's let's go start with the baseline here, right? I'd like to start with that, you know. How much CO2 is the atmosphere would do that. But anyway, um what what what do you need a generator for typically? You're you're in a place where you don't have a ready electricity supply. You're doing a job up in the mountains or somewhere remotely, you need uh electricity to power what you're doing. What else do you need a generator for? When the electricity you had you can't count on anymore. That it's uh that's uh they have backup generators at hospitals and important institutions like that, just in case. So what else do you need to generate for? When that power actually goes out, you need to turn them on. So um so when electricity's gone, the generator works on something besides electricity. That would mean fuel of some kind. So what can we fuel generators with? I suppose firewood, I suppose we could shovel coal in there, we could we could use things like kerosene, maybe diesel, gasoline. Or maybe we could maybe we could go buy Elon's uh you know fifty of his battery packs and just go stack them up somewhere. I think that's what they want us to do. Yeah. Have pre-charged battery packs sitting there and you can run off them until they're gone, you know, and we know how batteries go, they have a limited amount of life. So, you know, most most people I know they just like to be able to go turn on the generator, they've got a five-gallon container of gas nearby, and they can go a few days with that, you know, until the thing is figured out, which is gonna get most people through. So, uh Yeah, and let's not be since PGD has to do these what they call them PSPS, public safety power shutoffs. Getting back to the trees we were on for a minute ago. They're not allowed to clear trees around the power lines without a whole bunch of permit process. I passed a bill in 2018 along with a Democrat colleague from Oregon, Mr. Schrader, to ease up the process to get a permit, a freaking permit, to clear around power lines, you know, dead hazardous trees. They identify hazardous trees, it looks like a dead tree there or a tree that's leaning over after the wind or something like that. You want to go take that sucker down because two bad things happen when a tree falls under power line power outages and fires. And you know the Dixie fire happened because a tree fell into the power line. That big million acre ir fire that's uh started just uh northeast of uh Oroville, and then the other fire, the campfire, uh started because power lines uh you know, a piece of equipment broke and the line started touching the metal tower and the stuff down below sparked and caught fire. And so that wiped out paradise. Both fires they started within a mile of each other up there in the Feather River Canyon. One burned to the north, one burned to the west. And we know, you know, eighty-five people lost their lives, the whole town of Paradise pretty much is gone. Dixie fire wiped out the town of Greenville and the town of uh of Canyon Dam completely gone as Canyon Dam, Greenville three quarters gone. And all the other threats we have up and down here because you can't do a simple thing like uh a common sense person, like, well, you better take that tree down. And maybe it would be smart to clear along the power lines anyway. So, you know, PGE's the one that ged over it, right? So they have a level of fault, I guess, too. But I lay a lot of this at the feet of the bureaucrats that don't allow what needs to be done. These power lines have built many years many, many years ago, and they used to clear around them easily and didn't require, you know, having to uh count every snail daughter out there before he could actually do the work. You know, so yeah, yeah. This is the environmental movement stopping this stuff, one thing after another.
SPEAKER_03:And then and then another part of this too, if you think about it, so we have these it's tough on the grid, supposedly. Then you have the governor asking us, hey, if you have these electric vehicles, we have to be tough on the grid when we have all this power out of just constantly. And then you bring up these fires, which were devastating, obviously. Imagine this, let's think forward for a moment. Imagine a situation where if you were asked not to charge your vehicle, maybe your two vehicles, maybe you bought into all this trash, and now you have to get your vehicle to reduce the CO2. Suddenly there's a raging fire coming towards you, but your vehicle is not charged up. Imagine that scenario, because that's a real life scenario that could take place.
SPEAKER_01:Do you think they sit down in the governor's office and laugh at the absurdity of what they do? Like, we're gonna take it all away, but then we don't want you to charge it out. But they just they go into a corner and giggle like what we're gonna we're gonna pull this one on our ballast. Yeah I'm gonna go out there with a straight face. And this guy, this guy is is uh he's reptilian in his coldness, okay? He he they they were bragging up Biden a f a couple three weeks ago. Oh Biden, he's he's doing amazing work. We could not ask for better. You know, this is like uh Obi-Wan there at the check station once saying these are these are not the droids you're looking for, you know. And we're all supposed to be fooled by this.
SPEAKER_03:And he says it with a straight face, because I believe that was um well, though there was the Zoom call where he wasn't on Zoom yet, and he was talking about the gal at I think it was a target, someone was shoplifting, and he's talking about well, why the hell am I paying three hundred and fifty dollars, whatever it is, when that guy's just walking out? Why didn't you stop it? That was a whole other thing.
SPEAKER_01:You know, so w this guy 'cause it's your blankety blank policies, Newsom. You're the one emptying the prisons. You're the one that has uh suspended death row for your whole eight years. You're the one that loves prop forty seven and fifty-seven and A B one oh nine that have are responsible for a high percentage of this crime on our streets and the people breaking into uh stores and with hammers and wiping out the jewelry section and just watching them walk out of every retail to target the the CVS and all this, and then they wonder why they're closing the stores in San Francisco. Then you got my colleagues like saying you're just doing it because you're doing it in the in the areas where it's uh the ethnicity is of uh a particular bent. And so it's racism because you know, no, we can't we're getting our butts kicked economically. We can't keep stocking our shelves as fast as you guys are carrying it out with walking in your bags with your hoodies and your glasses, your your uh silly COVID masks on. I mean, what what do you what do you expect? Of course you're gonna close down and and pull out of that area. It's not because of racism, but idiots of being elected.
SPEAKER_03:But he's dead. And we heard it on the Zoom call. We heard him very proudly say this, Congressman Lamont. He's dead. Hey you guys, uh you know we have the test. He even emphasized re-emphasized, something like that. I mean, really, I mean let's look at 1047 beyond that. No one in this country is looking at this in California as a model for how you can stop crime and smash craft. That's ridiculous. That's absurd for the state. That's what it's great face. Just like when they ask him if he's writing a president. Well, why would I win when the man in there is doing such a magnificent? It was the worst acting that I have seen in a very long time.
SPEAKER_01:But that's how arrogant they are. They're looking you in the eye and telling you the stuff that doesn't make any sense. It's probably a lie. And people vote for them. Okay? Who votes for them? Nobody up here in this part. We had the highest uh percentage of uh of recall votes up here, and we were also responsible for a high percentage per capita of uh of uh recall um signatures up here. So they hate us up here, and that's why they're that's why they're just jamming places like Siskiyou County with uh you know taking the water away and you know the fish and game comes up in experiments with you know wolves and not being able to control uh elk populations or whatever else. It's just it's just one thing after another being inflicted on rural California. That's why we have this state of Jefferson thing a lot of people talk about, you know, and oh you're getting crazy, Dad. You're talking about being a secessionist or uh or an insurrectionist too. Like, you know, people have just been fed up with uh the folks in the urban areas, well I like mountain lions and I like wolves and I think we should have more of them. Like, well how you take two for your backyard, okay? And uh take take two take two down for your city park and see what you think when your kids are on the teeter totter. You know, then uh the teeter teeter totter doesn't go down the next round, you know, because the it's it's just it just doesn't add up at all. People want food, they want electricity, they want comfort, they want to have minerals to make their dumb cell phones to stare at all day long. Uh it's just we're our our society is just just getting it.
SPEAKER_03:No, I get no, I get it. And we need water storage. I mean, we have this rain and yet we have no facilities really to accommodate great water storage, which will impact farming.
SPEAKER_01:That the Tuleri, the the the the the Lake Tuleri down there, you know, filled last year historically. You know, we used to get a der there was a large lake down there in that lower San Joaquin. Okay, and when we'd get an an amazing amount of weather, you know, coming down from the mountains, Yosemite, and all these other directions, water could come down and fill up. Well we've mankind re-engineered some things and we're using that water for for good. And but we're leaving so much, you know, tens of millions of acre feet are and an acre foot is enough to take care of two households for a year. Okay, and uh an average crop uses about three and a half acre feet to grow you know an acre of it. So uh we're leaving so much on the table. They're talking about because of the Sigma program, I don't know if you know what that is, F G M A, it's uh it's a regulation of underground water, the state you know, the legislature passed just a few years ago. They're regulating the heck out of the use of underground water. Now I can see an argument for it, okay? But the bottom line is they're talking about idling six hundred, the number I saw, six hundred and twenty-five thousand acres of vag land in the sun in the San Joaquin Valley, and probably part of the Sacramento Valley, because they're not keeping up with the water needs, we're not getting the surface water, it's all running out the delta. It's all not all, but you know, a a big bunch of it is going wasted out the delta. And uh and they're doing using it for these fish issues that are not you know, before you had a dam to store water with, the river was what it was, and when it ran out of water in June or July, you had nothing. You had hot water, you had no water. And so the fish weren't taking that very well. So we actually have this luxury of being able to release water year-round, and now they're they're putting stipulations for what temperature the water's going out. So, like at Shasta Dam, they refitted it so with the device that they can take the water off the bottom of the dam so it'll be colder and they can have one degree colder water in the in the fall. Well, you know what happens then? They don't let the water out on top for agriculture because they want to keep it deeper so the water stays colder longer. That's the stuff they're doing. You know, uh people don't probably know all this because they can't think of that many dumb things to do already.
SPEAKER_03:Right. It's it's right. You literally have to think of what dumb things can we do. And and and this stuff is so deep, all of the stuff you're talking about. It's l it's so hard to keep up on all of these things with farming and the the water storage and all of these things and everything that they're trying to jam down. This whole agenda is the way I see it. We have other things. We're talking with Congress.
SPEAKER_01:And for normal people, normal people out there, they get their normal regular struggles. They hope that in this represented republic, we're not a democracy. I get I might my my I cringe every time in our democracy, or you know, democracy 2024, when the news comes on and reports it. We are a representative republic. We uh we vote every two years on who's gonna do the work for us, right? And so we're supposed to be as your representatives out there making decisions that look like they're sensible. You know, stuff we told you we would do when we asked your for your vote during the campaign, whether it's your city council, county supervisor, state legislator, federal legislator, governor, president, whatever, you know. And so are you hearing that you're pretty close to what we told you we would do. But you gotta put the shoe on the other foot here, or you gotta you know hit the ball into the other court. Who the heck are you voting for? Are you paying attention or are you saying, oh, they're all the same, it's the uniparty, one party's the same as the other. Yeah, I'll I'll give you that sometimes we're the Republicans are doing some dumb stuff. I'm frustrated by it too, with our in intrafighting. You know, we got rid of McCarthy here recently, which is really dumb, especially for Californians, and and we're we have up rest you know, up rest since then. But the voters have to pay attention of what they're doing, you know, when they when they're voting on propositions. We got a prop one on this this fall that people excuse me, this spring people are gonna get sucked into. It's gonna be six billion dollars more for the state to fritter away in a lot of ways whatever they want to do. But to say, well, it's gonna help veterans, like, well, let's help veterans directly, not a six billion dollar bond. You do you actually care about them? You know, we'll say what's gonna be that you're against veterans, Mr. Lamalfa. No. But I'm against the state being empowered to waste more of your money and do it over time, and especially when it's gonna end up in things that are not really the goal. As soon as they passed the highway tax uh a couple you know, a few years ago, well, thirty percent came off the top to go into things like buying land and parts and for training people and jobs and stuff like that. That did not add one mile of pavement to you for you. It didn't add any miles, it was just supposed to repair old miles, and so we actually need more miles of uh of lanes and stuff like no, no, we need high-speed rail and we need uh you know more walkable neighborhoods and more tall buildings so you don't have to go anywhere and we can actually put the gates up on the streets in your area like we're doing in England now, because we don't think you should travel more than 15 minutes. This is all real stuff that's happening. And it started something started back in the roots of when Daryl Steinberg was in the California Assembly, had a bill I can't remember the number. Like uh I'd have to go back. But this started that whole neighborhood planning stuff back then when it just quietly goes through. And we've opposed it back then as when I was just a little old assemblyman. And uh it goes through and it becomes embedded, and they build upon that over time, then pretty soon they are telling you where you can live and where you can travel.
SPEAKER_03:That's why uh you say it, and I believe it, Gavin Newsom, he's not all about your freedom. And uh and and the other scary thing is you're talking about this, and this is kind of going back to my comment about Newsom being dangerous, uh, and the voters being dangerous. Why would I say the voters being dangerous? Because here's what we don't do. We don't research. We go into a voting booth, Congressman, and we go and Prop 47 is good for helping veterans. They're helping children, they're gonna help schools, they're gonna help veterans. But you didn't really bother to go deeper and find out what exactly they were talking about. So you just mark this and then on we go. Prop 47 again. I hate to keep going back to it, but that is a prime example.
SPEAKER_01:Let's move to a couple of other things because you know you know what I would say, you know what I'd say real quick on that? Yeah. If you don't have time to research the propositions of the candidates or you know who the heck who the heck is running for judge, nobody ever knows who to vote for for judge, right? You know, and then then then don't just mark the ballot by guess. You can you can leave things blank if you don't know what they do, if you don't understand. You know, you want to vote for just a few things at the top of the ticket. You can leave stuff blank. Or call somebody you know that you trust their judgment and say, you know, hey Bob, hey Jade, what do you think about these different propositions or candidates? And and if you know that they're sensible people and they are the ones paying attention, there's no shame in asking somebody else their advice on that, and and you know, and ask them to give both sides, you know. What you know, what do you what do you what's plus or minus about this thing that you can tell or about this candidate or whatever. And if they're an unbiased person, they'll say that, yeah, I know this about that, and I also hear the other argument. So uh an unbiased person or one or one will that's trying to be helpful will will present that. And there's no there's no shame in asking for some help on that, you know. I mean, I put out a little thing typically on elections there of here's what I think about the propositions or here's who I recommend. And I there's stuff I stay out of. I think local things largely I lead to those locals, but um it's not bad to ask for a little advice on that because people are busy. People are trying to figure out how to pay for five buck gas, and if their you know stove is gonna have to get replaced by an electric stove because they can't get gas anymore, or you know, if their kids are gonna go to cool.
SPEAKER_03:You know, that's a good thing. So it's a daily struggle for a lot of us. Um since I know you're on limited time here, and I have so many things to get to that I know you don't have time for today, although I could talk to you for hours. How about we do kind of um just sort of a little rapid fire thing? I'll throw a couple things out there. You get and tell me your kind of uh reaction to some of these if we get uh before we wrap things up. And I really appreciate your time. Congressman Doug Lamal for joining us.
SPEAKER_01:Sure, I'll hang with you as long as you need here. But uh I'm uh my problem is you asked a rapid fire question and I have to sustain my answer.
SPEAKER_03:No, you don't uh you just you just be you, but I just wanted to be courteous of your time is all I was trying to do there. All right, so here's this is I'm just gonna throw some things out that really bother me. The entire BS, I'm just gonna say it, defund the police, sanctuary cities, no be uh no bail system that they're trying to force on us. Um and in my opinion, I better not drag you into that.
SPEAKER_01:I have certain um so no, you're you're you're you're seeing the effects in our in our blue cities already. You're seeing that. You're seeing some of them backtrack. Well, we just hired more cops. Chicago's talking about they got the Democrat Convention coming up in August. They admit out loud they're short of uh the proper level of staffing for the police force by about two thousand, okay? And they got other issues that are popping up. They're gonna make a ton of fun. You know, they the mayor, they they elect the dumbest mayors in these towns. He he is uh suspending a system. They have this sophisticated system now where uh they can it uh it picks up the sounds of shots of of gunshots, okay? And they can triangulate it by having they having these devices placed around the city. Um it can it can hear where the gunshots coming from, and we have three of them triangulating, it can zero right in on an area where there's a gunshot. And then police resources can go there, right? The mayor's pulling this out. He wanted to suspend the contract because it's racist. It's racist. It's racist.
SPEAKER_03:Ah, see, oh, okay. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_01:Uh how how dumb is that? You know, the the the listening device doesn't know what the color of the person was that shot the gun. It just knows that there was a sound, okay? And so that you'll you'll never get anywhere if this is going to be a legitimate argument. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03:Well, no, I agree with you. That is one of my main issues. And everyone, and I and listen, I'm not doing anything to try to drag you into anything. So my opinions are my opinions.
SPEAKER_01:Uh I think I'm not afraid of this stuff. Let's go. Let's go. You know what?
SPEAKER_03:I think that Black Lives Matter is a hypocritical organization. I've seen the effect of Black Lives Matter because everyone's caving into this what I deem to be an extremist organization. And on so many levels, today we don't have that you're a racist based on this computer that knows who's talking. How is that being racist? It is absolute garbage.
SPEAKER_01:You know, small b, small l, small m, yes. Black lives matter, and then everybody gets mad when they say all lives matter, but everybody needs to have an equal shake, an equ equal chance of success, equal representation in front of the law, and all that. So, you know, you're and you know, Dr. King said I'm paraphrasing, but wouldn't wouldn't it be nice to judge people by their content or their character, you know, what they do, how they act versus what their color is. That's an idealism. Okay, that would be that's correct, that's right. And race has been just taken and weaponized these days for, you know, look at this gal in Georgia here, Fanny Willis. The moment things started getting tough, they started shouting racism on that for her being held accountable for the funny business she's doing as DA down there, you know, and and so anytime you just pull that out, you're gonna get nowhere. And so, but you see the corporate world, corporate CEOs are some of the biggest weasels you ever find. They'll couch out and fall over backwards and start sending millions and you know, I think it's gotten billions into the the BLM capital B, capital L, capital M, and that's that's been a scam. They I don't think any of that money has actually gone to help black communities or black causes other than those folks that are making money on it, and they can make a big fuss, you know, over over things that happen. Do we can we do things better? Always. We shouldn't have uh you know police brutality. But they're the percentages of what you're talking about are so tiny, it is not a a trend that is real. It's made up using keeping people at each other's throats, keeping people upset, keeping people off balance, finding ways to divide people, in this case on racial lines, or whether you support the police or not. It's ridiculous. And the people doing this not only should be ashamed, but they should be held accountable.
SPEAKER_03:Absolutely. That I mean, I I completely agree with that. I think we have a left-leaning media with an agenda. It's very obvious to me. You look at things like the homeless in the streets. What do they want to do? They want to continue to throw money at the homeless situation. It's because this is the place with the five. This is the place you can get your benefits, this is the place that tolerates it, and it's weak on focusing on anything to clean the streets up. So that's one thing that I see. We the more we the more we throw at it. And then you have, going back to the our previous comment there about there's no accountability for the people doing it.
SPEAKER_01:You have you have different categories of homeless. You have both folks that just had bad luck.
SPEAKER_02:Yep. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:Economically, you know, they they didn't cut they didn't catch up. Maybe they aren't the smartest at man managing money or the situation. I've seen things. You have uh maybe a woman who's been gotten out of a very abusive relationship, she just ran. Okay, I I don't blame her. Then you have the drug heads out there that put themselves into the situation that need to rehab and not getting more drugs, and then you have the people that are choosing. There are a group that choose to do this, they can live off the fat of the land of others. And so you've got to break down the categories of who it is you're trying to help and who is that maybe needs to, you know, not have the benefits cut off and instead be in a different situation. But you know, those are all some of those sound really harsh. But uh when California has California has one-eighth of the population of the country, and we have about one-third of the people uh you know scooping up those benefits. And so of course we have these ten cities everywhere along the west coast like that. We're we're we're propagating, we're incentivizing. Our neighbors to the north, they legalized all drugs a few years ago. Now they're starting to take a look at that again. So what is that doing? That's just making more people that are vulnerable on that because the drugs are readily acceptable up there. So I'll stop.
SPEAKER_03:No, you know, I mean it's it's absolutely true. And and I agree with you. Every and I've said this many times because I've gone out and I've I've interviewed, had conversations with the people living on the street so that I can help get a better understanding and then help provide other people with a better understanding coming right from their mouths. And that is one of the breakdowns that I think we have when it comes to people who are homeless living on the street. It's exactly what you said. There might be a lady running from a violent situation, domestic violence, someone who just doesn't have the money cutting up, they're scared, and stand up on the street. So everyone has a different situation that needs to be looked at. And instead of just going blanket, throwing money or taxpayer money at it, look at it, try to determine what's going on in these cases, and then kind of move on from there. But it doesn't seem to be the case.
SPEAKER_01:Then we have the it's Well the work the work you see by the by the charitable organizations, your your rescue missions, your faith-based ones that are really focused, you know, on accountability. Now we're seeing like NGOs on the border, they're into making money by processing people as fast as they can drag them in and spread them out the country. Those aren't the same deal. When you look look at your local rescue mission and and other organizations that actually have accountability, and the ones that are that are basically demanding accountability for their clients when they come in, like, well, you know, you're you're welcome to come here to have a meal, an interview with us here. And if you want to stay, then you need to get, you know, drug free, alcohol free, cleanup, and you can also help around here with uh with uh some of the things of the of the you know keeping the facility going and some of them say we want you to go to chapel and stuff like that. So, you know, it's it's a bit of a choice there. And some people choose not some people choose not to accept the help that is that is needed, you know, with the rehab, with the programs. They'll they'll say, no, I don't want to have to do that. So they'll go back out and live in the park. And so then we're stuck with we're stuck with that limbo.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah and I've heard many times in interviewing these people, congressmen, they say, you know what, yeah, there's a place I can go, but they have rules and they and I can't drink and I can't bring my dog. I'm not gonna just leave my dog. Well listen, I you know dogs are very important, man's best friend, no one's gonna deny that. But to keep you as a human being the dog because you want to leave up your pet while you're rehabbing or trying to get your life on track, you have to have your priorities in order. Perhaps get the dog back later. You know, maybe there's a program I don't even know how that works. But but there are a lot of excuses like that. And again a lot of people have mental illness but I've literally spoken to people though who who are just they're on the street because that is the choice that they've made. That's and you talk about yep this is where I have been and this is where I'm going to stay and I don't care what you think about that. Then we have other people who in some of the areas that I've gone to one of them being in Roseville which is crochet to be over there and look at it. And you'll see across the street from these almost camera you'll see giant piles of garbage. This is another thing that people tell me they're all saying on the streets you see that trash over there? You have to dump that. People think we did this, okay? But no, it's the people still homes over there and it's across the field. They come out here at night 1 130 in the morning they dump their trash because they know we're going to take the blame. So now you have people who in their residents they don't want to drive to the landfill to get rid of the crap. So they go out and they throw it in a field knowing that the homeless population will take blame for that and so that's a whole different weird situation that no one ever talks about.
SPEAKER_01:Wow that's strange. That's probably some uh uh drug heads that do have a home that are doing that because responsible people are not throwing their trash along the road you got your you got your you know your your your room temperature IQ people that might happen to be in a home that are doing that stuff because uh and they can get away with it. Because in rural areas you see a lot too you'll see people dump mattresses out dead animals out all all this stuff along the rural roads and such that uh I I know that's not normal people. That's that's ones that if they're not homeless yet they're on their way to it but that's that's the mentality that gets them there because of uh you know this two-bit thinking like that so we we have a lot to overcome in our society of an accountability of government but also of the of the individual is required if we're going to be successful. You know we have you know Adams said way back in the beginning what do we have you know do we have a republic and or well someone asked someone asked Franklin that but also Adams is asked too uh and this is um our our our form of governing requires a moral and godly people if you're not moral then it doesn't hold up and so when you look at guys like Newsom and you look at like a Biden who's I I don't know if Biden believes in anything but the people around him are are moving as fast as they can to tear down the the things that that have been built up by hard work and good values for you know 200 plus years and they're tearing it up as fast as they can. And we're gonna have a big big hole to deep to dig out of and so when I was you know this little girl Tommy Tommy Laren on the on the news there I happened to see on the airplane last night she was on she said you know looking at the polling right now as bad as Biden is as bad as what their stuff that they're doing and as incompetent as he as he looks and all this the polls are close. It shouldn't even be close. So now is that is that mean we have a Trump problem? Is it because Trump is so unpopular or so polarizing for people? It shouldn't even be close. So we have a lot of work to do because you know Trump's policies are great. The stuff Trump signed that we would send him was great but you know you you do get a certain amount of pushback because of he has to say things that aren't just helpful you know and I'm sorry if hey Trump supporters listening you're gonna get mad at me saying this. I I support Trump. I've endorsed him okay we've done it all three times.
SPEAKER_00:But you got to have some uh restraint on what you say because for our hardcore there's a there's a middle there's a middle ground group of voters that aren't like Trump supporters that aren't like hardcore republic Republicans that you need to talk to.
SPEAKER_01:These people you know they they're maybe a little more timid or they're more I don't know sensitive or they're more worried about getting their Starbucks in the morning and you know making sure their kids get to pottery lessons or whatever. But you have to you have to not scare those middle ground voters away is what you're talking about. All right they need to be confident that what you're doing is going to be good for them. But basically they want to know that there's going to be police the community's going to be somewhat safer than by the alternative that uh that they have a future their kids have a future and that's all good. But people do need to buck up a little bit and be a little stronger in what they're looking at like, oh you insulted me with the words you said like these guys over here are destroying your neighborhoods they're destroying your livelihoods they're destroying the the foundation of the country and they're backing the wrong people in foreign affairs. What is it you want?
SPEAKER_03:You want to feel good about tweets or you want to uh actually have a functioning society and then we are not doing that especially in the blue cities and so much of the blue states that everybody's moving out of you know so Congressman Doug Lamalfe you're so right I mean everywhere we're so sensitive and we're all victims but you're also right about this you're also right and I've had this conversation with many people and I feel the same way you do on this listen that Donald Trump has a communicator he's a great communicator if you want to have a couple of laughs if you enjoy that kind of snide and again I started this conversation saying I can be snite I can be sarcastic which is exactly what he's doing. The difference is I'm a tax to host okay that's my job your job is to communicate as you just pointed out Congressman with everyone and I've always believed and I've said this many times you take the the the uh policies no one's perfect there's no president no politician it's perfect but you take his policy test and you put it behind someone who is more restrained okay has more re is more restrained in and and more a little more polished and a little more professional in a communication and delivery and more polite and letting people bury themselves with their words rather than you trying to bury them with your words.
SPEAKER_01:And that's the thing goes a lot further with a lot of us oh yeah their own words are what are are what gets them we don't even have to do it and uh and and their own policies and they then the what what the left loves to do they love to tell you the bad thing you can do then they go do it. And so pay attention to what they say and then compare that to what your values are and such and don't be caught up in the rhetoric. You know it it's just it's just it does it does take self-responsibility and the voters the citizens have to do some of that themselves. You can't expect your government to rescue you know you're the best possible Republican the most conservative the most freedom fighting swashbuckler swinging across the bow of the ship with on the rope can't do it by themselves. People have to pay attention and empower us with majorities that are going to work. You know Republicans have a majority in the House. If you're a Californian you got six six pieces of the legislative process between the state and federal government you got a California assembly you got a California state senate you have the governor and then at the federal you have the U.S. House you have the U.S. Senate and you have the White House five out of the six are dominated by Democrats with crazy policies okay you see it. The only thing's putting the brakes on any of this is a slim Republican majority in the US House of Representatives. That's the only counterbalance you have and we're you know our numbers have dwindled a little bit a couple guys have resigned we lost Kevin McCarthy you know due to our own internal Republican stupidness and uh you know we lost that special election in New York the other day. You know that was going to be a tough one anyway but our numbers are even narrower of that majority and so we have to be and you know again we look like Keystone cops back there too I admit it. We're not making a great case why Republicans should be in the majority other than we do stand for these right things. We do pass decent legislation and we're not the other side with their craziness okay you know I've kind of joke around saying like you know maybe we don't deserve the majority in the eyes a lot of people because of our Keystone cops thing going but the country doesn't deserve to have Pelosi and their crazy ideas in charge either so stick with us. Just stick with us and we will get there okay yes and I I I'm I'm uh because the right values are still there even though we look sometimes not that smart or effective I'm not a rah rah guy. I I'm not a guy that comes in the room and fills you full of smoke on this stuff. I gotta tell you what it feels like from the inside as I you know fly back and forth each week and and look at you know what we're doing. But uh know know that in the Republican conference our group in the House there's a lot of great guys and gals that really believe in the stuff we're talking about here. Yeah you got your posers and posturers that love to get on the camera and make dramatic statements that you know and they and they get all the ink because the press follows them. The press loves to follow them and they love to see when Republicans are at odds with each other. You know John McCain was popular as a maverick because he was always shooting at the other guys, you know so like uh oh no he's just talking John McCain John John McCain is an icon. You know whatever. But I I didn't like a lot of what he did. And um you know he he really jammed us on that uh Obamacare vote we had one here that skinny reform we did he put the thumbs down. So when Republicans are a handful are out there doing their own thing instead of uh um working together behind the scenes to come out with a unified front even though guys behind the scenes aren't aren't always agreeing. How do you how do you build a team doing that? You know I mean how does how does how do you have a football offense if the receiver wants to do his own thing and the pullback wants to do his own thing and the linemen don't all you know uh start blocking at the snap of the ball. You you don't have anything that way. It's complete chaos so um anyway I I could keep ranting on all this here. Uh but it's just but but we we need we we need the people to be engaged. We need them to vote do the early voting that seems to matter for some reason. I you know 'cause like in New York the other day um the a snowstorm hit on the day of the the voting for that special election to fill that seat that had been held by a Republican and uh you know a disreputed Republican but nonetheless and so the people like to show up on the day of a lot of Republicans do this a lot of conservatives well I'm gonna go in on the day of and turn my ballot in in person. I'm not mailing it in like well then a bunch of those people didn't go because of the weather you know yeah and so a bunch didn't get turned in. So I would say hey if you don't want to drop in the mail just go a week ahead of time or something you'll fill it out. You know how you're gonna vote. Not your vote's not going to change you know the issues just drop the sucker off when you're in in town at one of the voting places, you know receiving stations and do it. Or you can drop it in the mail. Mail's pretty reliable you know drop it in a week ahead of time and it's gonna get there and you can even track and see if it did get there. You know so it's great advice. It's gotta you you gotta do it. You gotta you gotta make it easy on yourself.
SPEAKER_03:Hour and six minutes into this and I haven't even and and I love your opinions and we haven't even got to things like uh the Fed's clipping down the razor wire that Texas put up so then now we're gonna have all the influx of the illegals coming in through California is what I think is going to be the one of our biggest problems coming up.
SPEAKER_01:I could be wrong on that but uh Go Tex keep fighting because the U.S. government is not doing its constitutional duty so I think at this point when you have a dereliction duty the state needs to be able to take it on and stop the invasion. I think go go Texas. We used to have Arizona too but they put a bad governor in there so that now it's all those are three border states get to bear the brunt.
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SPEAKER_03:Well so much more to talk about but I just want to say uh Congressman Doug Lamalfa I've really enjoyed our conversation and I still feel like we've just it's the tip of the iceberg even though we've been sitting here having a great conversation I think that my listeners are going to really appreciate your point of view. I know that I certainly do and I appreciate what you are trying to do uh in your position and I believe personally you're standing up for the right things. I definitely recognize the agenda I think most people recognize the agenda that is going on right now. All you have to do is listen to the top of the hour news and radio and just listen to the newscast. First thing you hear is Donald Trump showing up in court. Donald Trump forget about that. Move on get to fixing this country and the things that really people are really really concerned about. So I admire and respect you Congressman for what you're trying to do for us.
SPEAKER_01:Thanks so much for having me on and for your broadcast of you know just getting people to listen a little bit more so thanks so much.
SPEAKER_03:Yes sir and anytime you uh you ever want to talk again I've got a radio show we can do this.
SPEAKER_01:It's a pleasure to speak with you Congressman and it's a pleasure my cage rattle my cage or I'll forget you know you're busy you're a busy man.
SPEAKER_03:But I'm very proud to be in that 04 class going back to Butte College where we began this conversation. I, sir, am very proud to be with you in that class and Larry Allen and Cheryl Leith. I'm very proud and thankful for that and I want to say thank you for joining me on my show on my Pat's Peeps podcast number 50 my milestone podcast here Congressman Doug Lamalta.
SPEAKER_01:Glad to be in number 50 the 49 maybe would have been better maybe it would have brought the 49ers more lucky okay so now you you wait till the end of the conversation to find something that you and I disagree on.
SPEAKER_03:Like I'm the I'm a fan of your arch rival uh I mean of your team right I'm the arch rival of your team which would be I wonder who you would say.
SPEAKER_01:Which well I hate the Dallas Cowboys the most so okay well see now we could probably agree with that too. Maybe maybe the Rams Yes I I maybe the Rams. I I don't know I don't really like Stafford a bit and the Rams don't ignite the same passion as this all this America's team crap that's been going on for 40 years. You know I I hate the Dallas Cowboys. I've hated them since 1972 when uh that playoff game when we had two touchdown leads we screwed it up and those guys uh that was that that that scarred me man so anyway so I know exactly what I was doing on that day by the way I remember exactly what I was doing I was entering an art contest and I was trying to pay attention to that game.
SPEAKER_03:But uh wasn't that against yeah I remember that very well.
SPEAKER_01:In 72?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah oh yeah you bet.
SPEAKER_01:I remember that they brought Stab in off the bench and our guy uh let's see we uh fumbled an onside kick and that gave him the chance for the second touchdown. I had to go out and do my paper route at halftime so I got asked my dad asked my dad how'd that go and he said that you know because we had a big lead and that no they didn't get it done. And that was also the same day of the so-called Immaculate Reception. So I'm a Raider fan too you know you can like both AFC and FC. Sure sure and uh and and so that was the worst day in Bay Area sports maybe ever with the Raiders going down that way and the Niners going down that way. That was just like oh I don't know how you come back from that. But uh so the scar the scars deep on that stuff dude so that's I do so you decided the Rams are your favorite team?
SPEAKER_03:The Rams have been my favorite team since I was a kid Roman Gabriel and I will contend this to this day I will say this I love talking sports with you all of a sudden the biggest game the Rams ever played the biggest win the Rams ever had in my opinion as a diehard Rams fan wasn't the Super Bowl two years ago. It wasn't it was the game before that it was the NFT championship game because here's why you had a bunch of like half of that stadium with 49 fans coming into LA still it was impressive it was not impressive huge I mean I would imagine there's going to be fans of the other team yes but it had they and the Rams lost that game Congressman to lose to the Bengals in the Super Bowl eh whatever few years you're gonna hear oh yeah that's right you lost to the Bengals but living in Northern California as a Rams fan all I would hear is how about the time we beat you on your field and then won the Super Bowl on your field. So that game to me was the biggest win in my whole life watching the Rams against the 49ers well you can feel that way that one didn't bother me as much as the Dallas ones because the Niners were not quite the team they needed to be to make the whole run.
SPEAKER_01:I mean I I think that's the that's the season they beat uh Green Bay in Green Bay right and was it the one they also beat Dallas when Dak decided to run down the middle of the field with 20 seconds left to go and no timeouts. I I like to just replay that one just to laugh at it. But uh ha ha you're sadistic like I am man so so the nine the Niners were they were stretching their ability in that playoff run anyway. They were you know they were a wild card team and they've won two tough games on the road. I was I admired them for that. I thought man go do that a third time they'd beaten Rams both times in the during the season too so I guess it was possible but the Rams had everything going for them as far as uh rest and home field and uh and the Niners were just kind of a little overextended. They played a good game and it was in within reach but uh they didn't quite have it. So I did not feel bad about that effort and and the Rams I didn't hate as much then as uh I don't know you know I I I just hate Dallas.
SPEAKER_03:We can agree on that.
SPEAKER_01:So we'll end this and the the Seahawks the Seahawks are right there behind them. I can't stand it.
SPEAKER_03:I don't know why you guys hate the Seahawks more than the Rams when the Rams have been the the the the rival for maybe it's just easier to hate the Seahawks because I don't like them either. They should still be in the AFC as far as I'm concerned. But let's agree on this. Maybe we can agree on this because we are both we've just made it very clear that both you and I are Dallas Cowboy haters, okay? But that's good let's respect Larry Allen because he was in our class and he's a three times super he's a great player. He's a great player and then you know you have to you know you have to compartmentalize some of this stuff you know but uh you know I mean even I like uh McCaffrey and I like Ed Purdy I mean geez you can't just like Brock Purdy the guy is just like the nicest guy and that's a good rudiment for him the Niner gang the Niner gang anyway I mean these you know Bosa and Kittle and and uh you know Debo and they they got some they've got great they've kind of purged the negativity of the ugliness of the Kaepernick era and all that stuff which turned a lot of people off.
SPEAKER_01:We didn't watch football around here for a while and the the Snyder team is so exciting it kind of drew me back in, you know and and uh and stuff 'cause I I just didn't want anything to do with it.
SPEAKER_03:I'll make you a gentleman's I'll make you a gentleman's bet right here. I'll bet you in the next ten, fifteen years outside Levi Stadium you see a statue of Colin Kaepernick.
SPEAKER_01:I'll I'll bet against you on that one. So okay. If you want to see the statue, we'll we'll go down there and college what I want you to do. What college do you root for? What college do you want to root for?
SPEAKER_03:Notre Dame.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I hate Notre Dame. Okay. See, I grew up liking the Trojan I grew up liking the Trojans.
SPEAKER_03:See, that's the best game in football, college football. Notre Dame, USC.
SPEAKER_01:Love it. That's it's it's been USC. Congressman. When NBC when NBC got its own contract just for Notre Dame games, I about want to put my finger down. Oh, the Notre Dame Network. Are you kidding me?
SPEAKER_03:That's when I knew, Congressman, that we actually live in the greatest country in the world. And we let's not even talk baseball. We're not going to go there. I'm just going to wrap it up with that. I've enjoyed this conversation today, Congressman.
SPEAKER_01:It's been fun.
SPEAKER_03:I really appreciate you, okay? And you ever need anything and you ever want to talk again? I'm always here. I I I just love the efforts and the right things that you're trying to do for our country. Congressman Doug Lamalt.
SPEAKER_01:Well, just call us, just call my team there when you want to go over something or talk about an event or just you need to fill time. I enjoy it too, so we'll do it, okay?
SPEAKER_03:All right, Congressman. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01:See you, Pat.
SPEAKER_03:All right, bye bye.
