What if you could offer your pet a more affordable and easier solution to common injuries? Join us as we engage in an enlightening conversation with Angela Boncz, the heart and soul behind Specialized Pet Solutions. Hear Angela's journey from fabricating orthotics and prosthetics for humans to creating specialized solutions for animals. From her personal experience of crafting a knee brace for her own mastiff to creating a prosthetic for an adopted miniature pony, Angela's stories inspire and educate in equal measure.
In this episode, Angela doesn’t just talk about her work, but also the crucial role of research, education, and intuition in her profession. Her passion for animal welfare radiates through as she discusses her dreams of opening a therapeutic mini-rescue ranch. From the fascinating world of animal rescue to working with various types of walking mammals, Angela's work truly embodies her belief in the universality of her product. She also touches upon the impact of social media, showing us that it can be a double-edged sword.
In our wrap-up, Angela guides us on how to reach out to her and explore the incredible world of animal orthotics and prosthetics. Her future plans include writing a children’s book, further underlining her commitment to animal welfare. We're certain that her insights into the world of animal orthotics and prosthetics will leave you in awe. So, come along and share in Angela's passion for providing our walking mammalian friends the quality of life they deserve.
What if you could offer your pet a more affordable and easier solution to common injuries? Join us as we engage in an enlightening conversation with Angela Boncz, the heart and soul behind Specialized Pet Solutions. Hear Angela's journey from fabricating orthotics and prosthetics for humans to creating specialized solutions for animals. From her personal experience of crafting a knee brace for her own mastiff to creating a prosthetic for an adopted miniature pony, Angela's stories inspire and educate in equal measure.
In this episode, Angela doesn’t just talk about her work, but also the crucial role of research, education, and intuition in her profession. Her passion for animal welfare radiates through as she discusses her dreams of opening a therapeutic mini-rescue ranch. From the fascinating world of animal rescue to working with various types of walking mammals, Angela's work truly embodies her belief in the universality of her product. She also touches upon the impact of social media, showing us that it can be a double-edged sword.
In our wrap-up, Angela guides us on how to reach out to her and explore the incredible world of animal orthotics and prosthetics. Her future plans include writing a children’s book, further underlining her commitment to animal welfare. We're certain that her insights into the world of animal orthotics and prosthetics will leave you in awe. So, come along and share in Angela's passion for providing our walking mammalian friends the quality of life they deserve.
Hello, hello, hello everyone, and welcome to the you Only Go Once podcast, otherwise known as Yogo. I am here with my fantastic co-host, Eileen Grimes, and today we are meeting with somebody very special. Eileen, kick us off.
Speaker 2:Thanks, cheryl. Yeah, I am so excited to talk to Angela Bonds today, who's owner, ceo and lead fabricator at Specialized Pet Solutions. I was just telling Angela right before this. As we were talking getting ready for this, I tried not to dig into too much research, because I really have a lot of questions and I'm fascinated by the work she does. Angela, can you tell us, well, welcome, welcome, welcome. First of all, thank you, thank you for having me. Yeah, so what does what does that mean? To be the owner, ceo and lead fabricator of Specialized Pet Solutions? What do you do?
Speaker 3:Well, first of all, I don't even really believe it myself. Like a dream come true to be able to do work with animals and work with my career. That I started out doing orthotics and prosthetics is where I started, in humans, and I've transitioned that over into animals, which is a pretty newer industry, and so it's up and rising and I am just very honored to be a part of it and to learn as I grow with it. Like it's. It's just pretty amazing really.
Speaker 2:It is. I mean, I've seen some of the work that you've done and it's just, it's awe-inspiring. I don't. I don't even know what to say outside of that, but to to provide this, and you know I have, so I gosh. Well, we have a snake, which I don't know how a prosthetic would ever work with snake, but we have two dogs, a cat, a bird, many fish, which, again, I don't think would do well without either, but love animals, and so to hear that there are things that can happen and options that that they can have if and when and or when you know, if they were to get injured, or something along those lines, you've made the stuff available. I mean that's amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. And spreading the word is is great too, because not a lot of people know that there are these options out there. You know, for a typical probably our most the most common injury that we see is a CCL tear, which is equivalent to an ACL tear in humans.
Speaker 2:And those.
Speaker 3:Those surgeries can run anywhere from five to $7,000. Our product is, you know it's, it's under $700. And if it's just a partial tear it's going to heal with the support of the brace and you can. You don't have to worry about the downtime after surgery. You know, god forbid, something happens during surgery or sometimes the surgery just doesn't work Like it, just it's it's. It's a better option that then like if if, let's say, the dog still needs a break or not a brace, but needs surgery, they'll still have a brace for support afterwards. So it's like why not take the easy route first? And then you know, if all else fails, then then a $5,000, $7,000 surgery.
Speaker 1:Right, so you said you went from from doing this for humans to animals. How did you, how did you make the transition?
Speaker 3:So when I had graduated from a orthotic and prosthetic school and spoke can here after probably like two or three years, I adopted my first big mastive dog and she had had a she needed. She wasn't even a year old and they're like she needs to have TPLO surgery or CCL surgery and I didn't have that kind of money.
Speaker 3:And since I was in that field, I was like, well, why don't I just build her something? I can figure this out. And so I figured out how to build her a knee brace and you know, that's all she needed and she lived. She didn't have any issues afterwards. You know I got her on better joint supplements, that's fantastic. Yeah, and she lived to be, you know, as a massive, like 13 years old. She did that, oh wow.
Speaker 1:That's amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she just needed that that little bit of stability to help strengthen that joint. And then that's right Cause then. So that was the first thing. And then I adopted my miniature pony prince. Probably a few years after that he was missing his. We actually had a rescue reach out to our facility where I was working and they were looking for a prosthetic for a miniature pony. And at the time I was, I was working with my husband and we had just gotten our first horse and the secretary calls back and is like hey, there's a lady on the phone that wants prosthetic for this miniature pony. And my husband at the time was like, hey, why don't you take it? Take this phone call. I said I don't want to take the phone call because I can't tell these people I can't do this for him Finally took the phone call because it wasn't my company to do that right.
Speaker 1:I couldn't hear that got it Okay and then Within.
Speaker 3:Then I finally took the phone call. Seven minutes into the conversation I said I'll take the pony.
Speaker 2:Oh, animal lovers.
Speaker 3:I had no idea where I was gonna put them or what I was gonna do with them, but I made it work and I still have them today, like that was 2007, and he's he's still going strong.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, so you talked about Dogs and horses. Do you do this type of work for all animals? I mean obviously not snakes and fish, but I guess, walking mammals. I guess is the general area like what's the? Is the miniature pony the largest Animal you've done prosthetics for?
Speaker 3:No, we, we've done full-size horses. I just did one for a lady in Germany which you know what we do mail order stuff to which Germany is a ways away and yeah, yeah, a little bit more difficult. So you want to make sure you you nail it the first time, basically. So that was the full-size horse and it was pretty extreme case, but she's she's happy with what we did and the horse is galloping around and you know running and bucking and you know doing all the fun stuff horses like to do.
Speaker 3:I've done a camel once for an orthotic, so oh, my goodness an orthotic is a brace that supports a leg, and Then the prosthetic is where we're missing something. We're missing part of that leg. Yeah, so prosthetics are a lot more involved than actually bracing like prosthetics. I don't know if I could do for a camel. Yeah orthotics I could do for a camel, but okay. Okay, even for full-size horses. That gets a little bit sketchy, with you know, with prosthetics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was curious about that because I mean, just in terms of look, I'm not a vet, I don't know anything. I mean I know some things but like even just understanding the way a horse is built, right, that one I don't understand how they can stand up on their legs at all because just the structure it's amazing to me that they have these little skinny things at the end and then they're these massive, amazing creatures up top and just Just how that has happened and works is Mind-blowing to me. So just come up to it with a prosthetic that would actually Then do the same work. I just I feel like that would be incredibly difficult.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't would say they are ever back to normal for an animal that size, you know. I mean they're more retirement, like let's live out the rest of their life comfortably. But they're not sure work. But yeah it's. It's pretty interesting on on what we can do. We kind of just Take a lot of the human orthotic and prosthetic components that we would normally get in in a manufacturer or whatever and just kind of Integrated into the animal industry.
Speaker 1:What's the, what's the material that's used?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's a polypropylene plastic is what what we use. It's a it's a orthopedic grade polypropylene.
Speaker 1:Okay, now do you? I'm gonna ask a whole bunch of silly questions. So do you use like a 3d printer or is it something where it's many? It's really manufacturer, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, eventually, 3d printing has come a long ways, like Mm-hmm. More and more people are starting to use that and that's something that we actually would like to start getting into. But I don't really know anything about 3d printers, but that's something for sure because, okay, the resins in 3d printing are getting better and then you know the the capabilities are growing so much with that, so that's definitely in the future.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, great. So you had told us earlier you're, you were near Spokane, but you had also shared that you were out in Virginia for 18 years. So what brought you to Virginia?
Speaker 3:So after graduating from the orthodontic and prosthetic school, there's not a lot of facilities to you know, you, don't? You don't find a lot of jobs close by. So okay, so yeah, you had to kind of move or you had to maybe find a different career after going to college, like gotcha.
Speaker 3:Okay, Yep yep, so I went to Virginia and was there for 18 years and that's kind of where I learned a lot of everything that I'm doing now too. I I started subcontracting for another gentleman out out in Virginia and I was able to get my hands in in the animal industry even more.
Speaker 2:And then I've just, you know, each, each year, you just kind of keep growing, that's amazing, yeah, yeah, I just so, when you so, when you're you know, especially with prosthetics and things, what, what do you do? I mean, I interesting, you're working with folks who are in Germany, like how does how does that work, like you know, for I assume you have to get different measurements and different things like that. So how, how do you approach when you have a new, a New patient right to be working with and and get them suited for whatever they need?
Speaker 3:So we offer I mean, we'd rather see you in-house so we can actually do the casting, but that's sure not always the option. So we do. We have like casting videos on our website and we and we send out a casting kit, the hop, everything that you need to cast it for you, either you or your vet could cast, and then we're always you know, will help people walk through how to do it and Then you just, you know, hope, hope that the casting material stays together, sure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then where do you manufacture? So does this happen, like there you're doing this work?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so our lab is in Spangle Washington. We have a little mini rescue ranch here on our place and we live here, we work here, we take care of the animals here like you know I don't think I leave, but maybe every once, every two weeks. Okay, okay, I don't doubt it, yeah which is great though, cuz I mean I Love what I do and I love my animals, so you know we have awesome. We got plenty of work to do, that's great.
Speaker 1:Now how many animals do you currently have on your farm?
Speaker 3:so I have Prince the three-legged pony and then I rescued a Mini-trudonkey when she was four months old. She, her front legs were totally deformed. They were completely hyper-extended, probably like 45 degrees and not, and, and I was able to. Some gentlemen reached out to me wanting braces and we started doing the mailing thing back and forth, right, sending him the passing material.
Speaker 3:He would send it back and he was getting sores and things weren't, and meanwhile she was getting older and I was like you know, I found love with her right away and I was like you know, I'd really like to take your off your hands, if I could. And he said okay, and I drove from Virginia to New Jersey, put her in the front seat of my pickup and drove her all the way back. And so that's baby Ella and she's super naughty and she's pulling. And then a regular size horse, a beautiful paint mare star, and then five dogs, four cats and eight chickens.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow yeah.
Speaker 1:I love it. I was gonna say did you see Eileen's eyes light up?
Speaker 2:That's like her dream, she's like it is yeah, yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1:Just all of them, basically everything that you just said, and maybe llamas. I think she would be like Alpaca, alpaca, alpaca. Yes.
Speaker 3:I'd like to add a couple goats maybe with some that needs maybe a prosthetic or something. Goats are pretty easy for prosthetics, so oh really, yeah, Well, depending on the amputation level.
Speaker 1:but yeah, sure, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2:So this is what you're doing and that's amazing, as you're sort of growing this business. What are some of the things that have fallen, that have been difficult in what you're doing, and how do you hope to overcome or work through some of those challenges right now?
Speaker 3:I think the biggest challenge is awareness, like letting people know that these are and that this is an option rather than surgery. Yeah, there's a lot of other, not a lot. There's only a handful of other companies that do what we do, and it's competition and it's trying to stay on top of those, which is it's fine. It's healthy, I think, for a business just to be in competition. But I think the biggest thing is awareness, just people knowing, and and again, like the having to send out casting kits and stuff. Not everybody's local. So I think that is probably the biggest challenge, because not everybody's gonna cast the same way that you do.
Speaker 3:No so you don't know how tight they made it, how loose they made it. That there is probably for me my biggest challenges, and that's just gonna be more awareness.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Yeah, and that's hopefully we'll be able to share. I mean not hopefully we will be sharing that here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's amazing. I also, like I was saying, I was working with the Gonzaga Entrepreneurship Program. You should, I will connect you with them, because they're actually looking for their next semester of local small business owners, or whatever you wanna call it, and they, whatever sort of direction you wanna go, and that could be marketing or sales or whatever it is. And obviously this, you know, this would be working on sort of the marketing and ramp up of some of that voice of it. So they would be fantastic.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna oh that would be amazing.
Speaker 2:Can I send you that information? Yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:They're wonderful, by the way, very enthusiastic and ask really thoughtful questions, and it's a very positive experience, for sure.
Speaker 3:We love the Bulldogs. Yeah, all right, all right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely yeah, it is, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:That's awesome. Now, do you get a lot of, do you get a lot of business from? I don't know if I'm saying this right, so there's rescue farms, there's sanctuary farms and there's hobby farms. Do you find you get a lot of work from all three, or is there anything in particular that you find you get your most work from?
Speaker 3:Any more, it seems. Sanctuaries are really really big.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 3:I have a couple of good contacts with the sanctuaries. That word of mouth spreads good, especially when you're doing good quality work. Like I put my heart and my soul into everything that I do and I wanna make sure it's just perfect so that we don't have to ship stuff back and forth. But yeah sanctuaries are really big nowadays. Excuse me, they're the ones that are taking on these neglected cases that possibly have amputations from a frostbite or just any type of deformity, really.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. Is there an?
Speaker 1:animal that you haven't worked on, that you would like to work on?
Speaker 3:Ooh, maybe a lion, Okay. That would be amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is that happens? Wouldn't that be cool. Yeah so when that happens I'm coming down, I'll figure it out. I mean cattails maybe, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:I don't think you see those very often, though I don't think so.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying yeah.
Speaker 3:We've done cows, sheep, goats, Like I'm trying to think. I think the only thing I wouldn't wanna work on is an elephant because they're so big.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, that'd be fascinating. I mean, it'd still be sort of interesting and fascinating. Yeah, I'm just thinking of an elephant leg, like there's right.
Speaker 1:I mean the casting process, for that alone, I would imagine, is yeah, yeah, right Wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be a lot. It sure would. Oh so, Angela, this obviously is your heart and you're putting so much into this. How do you take a moment for yourself to? One of the things that they say is that we need to put on our own oxygen mask before putting it on others. What do you do for yourself to keep yourself going, working through this amazing thing that you're doing, and how do you give yourself that grace and energy to keep going?
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, well, I don't know. The last time I really took took a mean day, like it's always, you know, just because we have so many animals and we get so many Orders in, or just we get a lot more of the unique situations, the hard situations, it takes a lot of energy for me. I think I get more enjoyment out of coming up with solutions that aren't out there yet, figuring something out. Vacation days are nice, but right now it's just taking care of my animals and keeping the business going, because that's, at the end, is going to feed my animals, so that's sure.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I said I mean so. For me at least I, having two kids working full time, all of this kind of stuff there's not always the luxury of just I'm just going to go have a spa day and I'm going to. I think self-care is not necessarily described in the way that I think it should be, because I think there are other things that you can do that actually promote self-care, that aren't just paying thousands of dollars or whatever to go do beauty things. Those are fantastic, not knocking them in any way, shape or form, but you being with the animals I love being with and around the animals. I think there's so much that we as humans get from I mean, I know we get that from being with them. So I think some of that gets to be ingrained in the stuff that you're doing every day, and that's kind of amazing too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and by you saying that that's kind of one thing that I'd like to do is open up this little mini-rescue ranch to not tourists, but to people who are even just for mental health Sure, like animals are so great for that. That would be like my ultimate goal would be to have this little therapeutic, not necessarily riding, but just come and pet and feed an animal and sure, I do not doubt that you could do that.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'll pay right now. Yeah, I'll bring my kids down. Honestly, I would fly out for that. Yeah, I would be gladly.
Speaker 1:I'll meet Eileen and we'll be right down. So, yeah, that would be amazing because I know that there's a lot done. So, again, I live on the East Coast and I know that there are places that do like equine health Right. So there's that like people come and meet the horses and the horses are very soothing for people and, of course, there's the whole piece about trust exercises and things like that with horses and putting on horseshoes and things like that. So there is something very restorative about being with very empathetic people, very empathetic creatures. So that's fantastic. I applaud you for it. How many? Is it just you and your husband, or are there others? Like, do you have a staff? Do you have like, how does it work?
Speaker 3:Currently, yeah, my partner Dave and myself. He actually quit his job back in 20, I guess it was yeah 21. Covid hit. It was that first year beginning of the year and I got this opportunity. Actually, we're actually a subcontractor, also for another big company, so they send mostly their difficult cases to us and they offered me this opportunity and I needed help. So I asked Dave if he'd quit his job after 15 years as a warehouse manager. Oh wow, yes, but I think he thought he was going to be kicking back watching sports.
Speaker 2:Oh, Dave, yeah, oh, dave.
Speaker 3:I guess you didn't think that one through, but it gave us the opportunity to move back here because, yeah, we are actually in Maryland at that time and all my family was back west and I had been 18 years and I you know, I work it from home Like I can do this on the West Coast. So that's what I did.
Speaker 1:Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm inspired. I just, you know, I mean, some people can think about doing this work, but there's a whole other skillset that comes into implementing and doing right and really just putting all that into play. I guess it's. You know, have you always been sort of creative on that side? Like to me, this is creative to be able to translate the work that you were doing with humans into animals, like is that? Have you always kind of had that skillset of solutioning and trying to figure some of this stuff out? Not necessarily this specifically.
Speaker 3:I mean I think it was always in me. I don't think I was ever utilizing it though, until until I mean, I was always, you know, a dedicated worker, you know. And then, but yeah, the solution, problem solving really, I think, came out more with the animal orthotics and prosthetics because it is it's a lot of figuring stuff out. How do I you know multiple trips to Home Depot? How am I going to put you know parts together? And so, yeah, it was on the job learning experience for sure.
Speaker 1:I find this wonderful because you you know obviously so. Eileen and I worked together, we founded, we co-founded, our women in IT employee resource group at our company and we're always excited to talk to women in STEM and that's clearly where you are. I am excited to share your story because we, as much as we've worked with a lot of women in IT, we haven't necessarily talked to women in science. So this is very exciting, for it's very exciting for me, I know, it's exciting for Eileen and especially with animals, we're both so again, Eileen mentioned her small menagerie at her house. I have too many doxins that keep us on our toes, so, and they're getting up in age and they have. One of them has some problems with IVDD, so he's not yep, so I got a solution for you.
Speaker 1:Yep, yep, yep, I may call you if the time comes. So we just have to get them to quit jumping off couches and stuff, which is impossible. But yeah, I mean, I think about that all the time. One of the concerns I always had when we had doxins was that you see all the videos and it's like, oh, look, how cute they are in their little wheelchairs and I'm like I don't want a dog with a wheelchair. That's gonna break my heart. So it's exciting to see that there are empathetic souls like yourself that also have the STEM background that can do something that provides their longevity. So thank you for doing what you do and keep on doing what you do, because it's awesome. We kind of touched on you a little bit for what's next right? You had mentioned like maybe you'd love to open up the farm and have people come in for therapies or anything else that you hope to do with your business or personally.
Speaker 3:I mean I would love to get a bigger place, because we're only on three acres right now, so we only have so much room. But, ideally like for me. I would love to have a big sanctuary and still have the lab, the shop and just. I think it would be so awesome to have all these animals on there that you're just helping them right there on the spot and people could come and check it out, like that would probably be my ultimate dream.
Speaker 2:That's awesome it is yeah, yeah, I just I support you in whatever that looks like, and I'm here close by, so let me know. And I definitely want to be the first one in for tours and things like that, and I'm not joking.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let us do the spring cleaning, because the winter was a little bit of a mess.
Speaker 2:I mean, I can bring my kids out and do some volunteering work Okay well. They love it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably honestly my daughter wants a horse so badly.
Speaker 2:So I was like we live on I mean not even half an acre, maybe half of an acre maybe. So I was like horse on our property is not gonna happen.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think the town will let you do that. No correct.
Speaker 2:My sister has chickens and she just lives about four blocks away so they love. We want to see the chickens and all of that stuff too. But yeah, I've got my. Both of them love animals and my daughter likes the fluffy kinds, my son likes the slithering reptile-y. Yep. Exactly what advice would you give to someone that was because I would say at least you were pretty early on in a field that didn't really necessarily exist, right, and there can be some aspects to that that can be a little nerve-wracking and just trying to break through for something new like that it can be overwhelming. What advice would you give others who are kind of in that space, that are seeing possibilities for something but it might not exist yet and they might still be getting nose from other people and thinking that they're crazy. Right To try to approach something in a new way.
Speaker 3:I mean I think you always have to listen to your gut and follow your heart. Those are always the two things. Don't ever burn your bridges with anybody If you have any type of little connection with anything and what your passion is is keep that positive, keep that going. Volunteer, keep your foot in the door somehow. And just research I see a lot of people want they want to do animal stuff. It's like okay, what kind of research have you done? I was like do your research, do your homework, follow your heart and listen to your gut. That's what you got to do. Don't let anybody tell you no.
Speaker 2:Oh, Angela, I like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too. Me too. I think it's great advice to tell people to do their research, because clearly this is not an overnight success. This is years of hard work and education and experience. I think social media is both a blessing and a curse, in that there's a lot more awareness towards things like sanctuaries and rescues and hobby farms and things like that. I think one of the benefits is I follow a few on Instagram and they definitely show the realities of things. It's not like oh cute, I'm going to go and hug this certain creature because that creature will peck your eyes out. It's like certain things like that, there's a way and there's an approach and there's an empathy that's needed and there's a lot of patience that's needed with animals, big and small. I'm so glad that you say folks do your homework, because it's you know, when I hear you talk, I don't hear job, I hear vocation, I hear call to service, which is lovely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, go on, cheryl. No, that's okay. So, angela, how do people get in contact with you? What are some of the ways that people can get in contact with you?
Speaker 3:We're on most of the social media stuff. Oh yeah, that was one person I didn't mention. My sister actually hired my sister and she's in charge of doing all of the social media stuff. So I believe we are on most of the social media platforms under specialized pet solutions or our email address is specializedpetsolutionsatyahoocom. That's probably the easiest. Our website is specializedpetsolutionscom and that has our phone number and everything on that, because I do not know what our phone number is. That's fine, I know it's type of 509.
Speaker 1:Sometimes that's a good thing. Yeah, right yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, my goodness, oh, my goodness, yeah. So I actually now that, sorry that, just a new spark for more question In terms of what you're doing, you know, I assume. Like, does this become a course that's taught at vocational schools eventually? Like, are you going to write a book about the stuff that you're doing?
Speaker 3:I don't. I never. Well, I never really thought of it that way. I always wanted to write a children's book for my miniature pony prints.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was my next thing. I was going to ask.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I wrote probably the first book and I don't know what I did with it. And then you know things kind of just, you know, through the shuffles of moving and just life itself. That just pitted out, but you know it's still there, still in the back of my head, like as for schooling for animal, I don't think people take it serious enough. A lot of times, you know, I don't think the vets really consider it. I mean, for some injuries they know that braces will help, but they're more and more getting on board and having a reliable fabricator or you know place like us that really puts our heart into what we're doing and making sure that everything fits right and is doing its purpose. Like I think, once the vets see that like they're going to be more on board because there are a lot of places out there that they're going to sell you, you know they're going to sell you something that doesn't work and that's what the vets see they're like it's not going to work, don't even waste your money.
Speaker 2:So, who knows, maybe maybe a book, that'd be awesome, teaching, of course, all the things. Yeah, yeah, I just, I mean, I think it's amazing and I think to have these as options for people I think people, you know, pet owners, bring their dogs and things back when costs get exceptionally high and to be able to have options like this that allow people to keep the pets in a way that you know still works with their income and things like that, like I just that's a huge gift to give someone to be able to keep their animal. So I can only hope this continues to grow and, yeah, I have got to put you in contact with Gonzaga. Yeah, yeah, I think that would be awesome for you.
Speaker 3:We just fit a dog today. Actually that was a brand new. It's a horrible story which I don't know if I want to get into it, because it's kind of sad, but the dog was amputated above the hawk, which is the back leg, and it's the first time I ever built a prosthetic like this and it was bilateral. So both back legs amputated right below the knee basically. So this is like pretty much. I don't know if anybody's ever built a prosthetic first, but we got him standing Like it's going to take up some time to walk, but it was like it was so emotional to see like this poor little dog, like what he's been through. It was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:You're doing amazing work. I'd like that just period, end of story, and more people need to know about it.
Speaker 3:Well, I would appreciate it. Thank you yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so happy that you're able to extend the quality of life.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so important, it's so important. Angela, thank you so much for your time. Again, everyone, please, if you have an animal that's in need of Angela's service, please reach out to her on her social media and her email. And again, angela, thank you so much for your time on behalf of Eileen and myself. This is you Only Go Once, otherwise known as Yogo, and we'll talk to you soon. Take care Bye.
Speaker 3:Bye.