Unshackled

From Survival to Alignment: A Clairvoyant’s Perspective on Deep Healing

• Chantelle Dodd • Season 2 • Episode 2

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Your intuition isn’t woo—it’s a survival tool that helps you break cycles, spot red flags, and choose yourself with clarity. We sit down with Natalie Bavington, a trusted clairvoyant and medium, to explore how intuitive healing can complement therapy, rebuild self-worth after abuse, and offer grounded guidance without fear tactics or false promises.

Natalie shares her path from childhood sensitivity to professional practice, including the messy human moments: stage nerves, self-doubt, and the decision to serve anyway. She explains what happens in a session, how mediumship differs from clairvoyance, and why ethical boundaries matter. We dig into the energetic signatures of trauma—anxiety’s hum, the heaviness of low self-esteem, the polished mask that hides pain—and translate them into practical steps: nature for regulation, music for mood, journaling for truth-telling, and simple daily choices that strengthen your nervous system.

Together, we map the common patterns many survivors recognise: love-bombing, rushing intimacy, people-pleasing, and losing your voice. Natalie offers tactful “red flag” coaching that helps you slow down, protect your energy, and avoid repeating old loops. We also cover how to find a safe practitioner—reviews, conversation, and that gut sense you can trust—and why short, low-stakes sessions are a great way to begin if you’re sceptical or nervous. The heart of this conversation is simple: being seen is healing. When someone reflects your truth back to you with compassion and clarity, you remember you’re not broken—you’re becoming.

If this conversation resonates, subscribe, share it with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Ready to go deeper? Check the show notes for links to connect with Natalie and to join our trauma-informed Unshuckled programme. Your next step can be small. The shift it creates won’t be.

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Meet Natalie And The Intention

SPEAKER_02

And let's begin. In this episode, I'm joined by a close friend and Claire Voyant who supported me through some of the deepest parts of my personal healing journey. Her name is Natalie. We talk about her path to discovering her gifts, how intuitive healing can support trauma recovery, the work we've done together, and how she helps other women reconnect to themselves after abuse, loss, and emotional pain. For anyone who's listening, who's on a healing journey, especially after emotional or domestic abuse, toxic relationships, maybe a lack of confidence, low self-esteem, this conversation is about what happens when we allow ourselves to truly be seen energetically and emotionally. If words like clairvoyant and intuition feel unfamiliar or even uncomfortable, I invite you to simply listen with curiosity. Healing doesn't look the same for everyone, and today is about expanding what's possible. So, Natalie, I am so grateful to have you here. You're a clear intuitive healer and someone I trust deeply. Before we go into the work you do, I'd love for you to share a little bit about you.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so I have been full-time medium clairvoyant for five years. I discovered I think I was always open to the spirit world from a young age, and obviously I had lots of experiences when I was younger. One of which was I was um staying at my mum's house, and it was like an old terraced house. And I woke up to this old lady looking at my brother, and obviously screamed, and my mum came running down the stairs and said, just slick the bloody light on, you know, type of thing. So lots of little experiences like that, and I think that was the spirit world showing me that you know you can see us, you know. And so, yeah, and then I think there was just there's lots of little bits that I would have picked up on as a child, even if it was in you know, sitting in a room, and you think, I'm not the only one in here, you know, which can be like quite scary for a child, and I think a lot of children are open to the spirit world, but naturally, you know, we grow and we shut things off, but yeah, and so in 2020, there came a point in my life where I was like, Okay, this is what I want to do full-time, I do want to help people, and so yeah, and I just trusted my guides, and yeah, and I've got lots of lovely regular customers, I've got new customers coming in. Yeah, it's really lovely.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, oh, that's beautiful. Yeah, well, you've been reading for me for I don't know now how many years it's been. Is it three years? It's got me should just shoot. Do you reckon? Yeah, I think I was living in Rygate at the time. I think it was about probably could be up for probably about four or five years.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know. Must be then, yeah. We'll actually have to look at that later. Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_02

It has been a while, it has, and from there it's blossomed into a beautiful friendship. So it's been lovely, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, and you have to I think I have to be so grateful for that because yeah, you do make friends along the way, don't you? You do. Um, so yeah, I think we've got very similar sense of humours as well.

SPEAKER_02

We do not dark humour. Yes. Okay, so can you share your journey? So, when did you first realise you had intuitive or clairvoyant ability? So I we have touched on it.

Owning Gifts Amid Doubt And Judgement

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so when into adulthood, so there was lots of experiences when I was a child, but when I got to adulthood, I worked with a lovely lady who sadly lost her mum, and I I just saw how much it like destroyed her, and it was it was it was so sad. I mean, anyone losing anyone is is sad anyway, and it you know, it's not nice that they have to go through that. But I worked very closely with her and I kept getting messages, and I didn't say anything. I just thought, no, she's gonna think I'm an absolute weirdo, you know, even though I trusted it and believed it myself, and I really felt the urge to say it, I just didn't trust it because of how people would perceive me, you know. Later on, you know, down the line, I mentioned it to her. She said, Natalie, I wish you'd have said to me, I really wish you'd have said that to me because that would have really helped me. So, so yeah, so that was kind of where I thought, okay, I've got to do this. Yeah. And and yeah, and I just trusted it.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. So that is quite a lot of women who you know who start businesses just like you, who have these type of gifts, you know, kind of all in that same space. Like it takes that time to get to the place where you're at, where you're very confident with it, and yeah, it just grows, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

I think it's also we live in that kind of world where we worry too much what people think. Yeah. You know, we do things, you know, because it's the norm, but what I do is not logical, you know. So but we always think logically, and that's how we've been, you know, from when we started school, you know, everything would be logical, you know. And that's where it it's it it the spiritual side comes out of people, definitely, you know, it sorry, not comes out and leaves leaves people, so yeah. So it is I I think it is more worry about what people think. So if you can come away from that, open up your your mind, yeah, definitely, be a bit more open to it.

SPEAKER_02

It's true, it's that conditioning part of it as well, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01

It is, yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so what was it like accepting those gifts, especially in a world that doesn't always understand them?

SPEAKER_01

So I'm really lucky I have a very, very supportive family who apart from my grandma, I would like to say that, and she still doesn't know because she really everyone in my family knows, and they're very, very supportive. Even my children, actually, they're very, very supportive, and uh, but yeah, just don't I just don't tell my grandma. So if anyone knows my grandma, don't tell her but so yeah, so I think that made it more comfortable. Even friends, and it's it's quite funny. I bumped into a few friends, you know, a little while after, like I kind of if you like came out and she and they were like they were all like, yeah, Natalie, that makes sense. It all makes sense that you're doing this. So yeah, so yeah, so I is I think if you've got the right support around you, I think, whether it's people that you've made friends with on the journey of be you know opening up to the spiritual world, or whether it is that you're lucky enough like myself to have that supportive network behind me.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's yeah, I think that makes the world a difference, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I always ask the spirit world to make sure that they send me the right people to read for as well. So the people that actually do want the help, do want the guidance, that do want to have that connection with the spirit world, whether it be past loved ones, and and I think that makes it um a lot easier as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's true, it is were there any other moments where you doubted or tried to suppress your abilities?

Stage Nerves, Self-Doubt, And Breakthrough

SPEAKER_01

Oh my god, yeah, absolutely, but before every reading, I'll be like, uh oh no, actually, do you remember when I done some stage work? Yes, and I was driving there thinking, so I'd been asked to do like stand up on stage by this independent, oh, what do they call it? Uh like spiritual church type thing. He he was kind of independent, so away from spiritual churches, but it was very, very similar. And uh, so I was to stand up in front of a room full of people and read for them. So everyone's eyes are on you. And I was driving there. Am I allowed to swear, Shanton? Yes, of course you are. Yeah, okay. So I was driving there and I was going, Oh, you fucking idiot, what are you doing? What are you doing? Oh no, everyone's gonna like just be so you know, almost like I was I was imagining being in this like environment where everyone's just standing there and you could hear like a hay bell going across the room, you know. So but I was just like, Oh my god, and I got there and was going outside for a vote. Oh that's another word, I was so nervous. So I was doubting myself then, but I had to trust that the spirit world brought me there for a reason. I stood up on the stage and I opened up the doors to allow anyone that wanted to come through to communicate with everyone, and yeah, and it just flowed and it was just so lovely. And I I even got an applaud, you know, and I was just like, Oh my god. And then as soon as I came out, actually, you were the first person that I called, and and I was just like, Oh my god, it was amazing. I was driving there, putting myself down. So, yeah, so there is I still am human, you know, so I still get those negative feelings, you know, about what I do, thinking, have I delivered the right message to that person and and and so forth. But yeah, so did I doubt myself then? Yes, I did, but I came away feeling like on cloud nine. I really did.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, so it's like but especially batting away those intrusive thoughts and just getting on with it, you could do it and look what the outcome was.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly, and it was amazing. I was absolutely buzzing. So yeah, oh no, but yeah, I remember driving there going, Oh no, you idiot, turn around, turn around. But no, it was it turned out to be absolutely amazing. But still now, if I get called in to do stage work, I I still beat myself up about it because it's almost like it's that exposure, isn't it? You know, so the thought of someone saying to me, Natalie, you're gonna be on TV, I'll be going, oh my god, oh my god. But I will push myself, I will push myself to do it.

SPEAKER_02

That's the point, though, isn't it? So you push through that fear, you push through that the the way that you're you know, you're talking to yourself negatively, and then you get there, but then on the other side of that, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Um but every I think every part of my journey, there has been a learning there for me, you know. A bit kind of like someone that would come and see yourself, there is it that there is gonna be that learning, but if you can overcome it, the outcome is gonna be so so good. It's exposing yourself. So, like if someone was come to you to the line of work that you do, it's like they're gonna expose themselves, and it's fearful because it's almost like something they've kept kept hidden for such a long time, yeah. You know, but the outcome is gonna be amazing and and somewhat life-changing as well. Definitely, definitely transformative, exactly.

SPEAKER_02

So, how do you personally define clairvoyance and intuitive healing for someone who's never experienced death?

What Clairvoyance And Mediumship Look Like

SPEAKER_01

So, what it is that I do, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So, how would you like if someone comes to you, they come for the reading, what how would you define that for someone who's so I would I always start off by telling everybody what I do.

SPEAKER_01

So I am a medium clairvoyant, I use a higher vibration to communicate with people that have passed over, and I try and get as much confirmation as I can that I have the right person with me. And these are their memories, so they do have to have that open mind, but I trust that the spirit world would um oh my chair's gone down. Uh I trust that the spirit world would give me enough for them to clump their memories and things like that. Um, sometimes they have messages and sometimes they don't, so I always warn people that. Yeah, sometimes I have messages, sometimes I don't. And and I sometimes people will come to me and they'll go, like, oh, you know, granddad Joe didn't come through. And I'll be like, okay, I will try, but it's never any guarantee, you know. But I will certainly try my hardest. But I think so. So I get two sets of people, well, three probably, some that like a little bit of the mediumship, some that like the clairvoyance, some that just want the mediumship, so it's feeling that connection with someone that's past, then some that are just wanting, you know, please focus on my future, please focus on my healing that I'm doing now. Look at things that are holding me back. So that would be the clairvoyant side. So I do the past, present, and what is to come as well. So yeah, so that is kind of what I do, and some people, I mean, I read for people all over the world, Australia, Canada, America, Dubai, which is infuriating when they've got a lovely sunny uh scenery in the background. But yeah, so no, I and then people that are local to me. I mean, Rush and Northampton shit. So people that are local to me, they can come to me, and I do it via video call. So some people think, oh no, it's got to be done in person. It it actually hasn't, so I can do it via Zoom Teams, what's that video call, FaceTime, and I and I get exactly the same. So yeah, so it isn't just for the UK, it is for worldwide, and you know, I can reach out to everybody.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. We've always done it FaceTime because I'm in love.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you're in that's it. Yeah, that's yeah, so that's kind of what I do. There are I do do healing as as well. What else do I do? Oh, yeah, your parties and things like that.

SPEAKER_02

Um you stay grounded and ethical in your work.

SPEAKER_01

How do I stay grounded? My children keep me grounded. But they um but getting outside is one of the biggest things, and I think people that are on a healing journey, I think that is one thing I I say to I don't say to everybody, but I do say to a lot of people that I feel it would benefit. But uh, I feel outside is really good for people. And if things get a little bit on top of me, music is a big thing for me. I need to do more meditation. I probably get told off by the spirit world for that, but yeah, grounding I would say is nature, meditation, and music, because I feel music has such a wonderful vibration as well that can you that can keep you grounded, and can I just say surrounding yourself by the right people, people that we choose to be around. Um, so anyone that you know that set can set you off, I would say, and you're not in a good space, I would say keep away from them, and so keep surround yourself by the right people. But for me personally, I would say I outside is where I would ground.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, definitely. So many women and men who listen to this podcast are healed from some form of abuse, you know, relationships, trauma, years of living in survival mode, you know, where it impacts on their confidence, their self-esteem. From your perspective, how does trauma show up energetically in the body or the nervous system?

Grounding Practices That Actually Help

SPEAKER_01

So I would read that energy personally. For me, it would be so if I was to read for somebody that had anxiety, I would feel that, you know, or if someone's got something physically wrong with them, I would feel that. So it would be how they perceive themselves a lot, because I would read that you know, in in their minds that there's a lot going on, that they put themselves down, they would still show me the the scars that the the that they carry, you know, and uh a baggage as well. So that the the spirit world would show me for the individual really that yeah, they yeah. Does that make sense? It does make sense, it does. But it's yeah, so it would uh for me as a reader, everyone is so different, and it's how their how their trauma shows through them. Sometimes that you can just see it in their eyes. Sometimes I would have to really tap in because they hide it so much, and I would then have to feel that, and that's when you I would then get that connection with an understanding of what they've been through. So yeah, so it's just how the person wants to show me or how the spirit world is trying to show me what they've been through.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, yeah, so it's more like looking, I guess it's the metaphysical side of it as well, isn't it? So the that they've gone through, it's still it is stored energetically and within the body. So unless you work on that and you really acknowledge it and heal it, it will always remain in the body and then in their energetical energetical field, doesn't it?

How Trauma Shows Up Energetically

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely. But there's also I think people think when they come to see me, or you know, that I'm gonna get rid of that energy or that feeling totally. No, no, I'm not. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be able to do that. I can certainly guide them and teach them coping mechanisms, but it's gonna be a journey, and they've got to be ready for that journey. We still, as I said earlier, we're human, we have a habit of looking back on the past, but sometimes we say looking at it for such a Long time, but it was part of our journey, you know. We were meant to experience that, and it's now they've come to me for that guidance. I will help them work through it, and so when they look back, it's gonna be so brief, you know, if they've done the right the right work, you know. So, yeah, so does that make sense? It does, yeah, yeah. So it's it's I'm never gonna fully heal somebody, I'm never gonna be able to bring back their grandfather that's passed or their grandmother that's passed. I'm never gonna be able to do that, but I will certainly give you messages and I will certainly give you guidance. And you know, I am always here for that every now and again, or my vibration's low again, I'm looking back at the past and I'm like, okay, let's, you know, let's work through this again, you know. We might have to do it a few times, but it is all in their learning, yeah, yeah. And they'll find coping mechanisms, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely. Okay, so for someone who's quite skeptical to hence.

SPEAKER_01

Um I think if someone's quite skeptical, and oh, you stopped there, sorry. Oh, no, go on, go on.

SPEAKER_02

Don't let me stop you in your flow.

SPEAKER_01

You broke up a bit there.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I was gonna say, don't let that sorry, don't let me stop you in your flow. Oh no, sorry, say what the question was again. Oh, okay, so I wonder if he's quite skeptical, for instance. He's not really, he's maybe just coming into into the holistic space. What would you know why do you think talk therapy alone isn't always enough for deep healing? So with talk like that is the type of therapy that is, you know, it's how we're conditioned, you know, it's what's provided, for instance, here in the UK through the NHS, it would be those would be the options for, you know, healing. Why, you know, why that alone would you not say is always enough to really get to the core wound?

SPEAKER_01

I don't think that is going to be enough because when you've been for well, I've uh been to these talking therapies that are provided for by VNHS, and for some people they're amazing, and I would never slate them. But I actually personally, through my healing, I actually want to hear someone someone to say, Yeah, you're right to feel like that, you know, because they don't give you that feedback. Yeah, uh, absolutely not. They they don't, do they? You know, if you were to go there and you say, Oh, I'm feeling like this, and I'll go, How did that make you feel? Well, shit, that's why I'm here. You know, can you tell me what I need to do? But you know, if if someone was skeptical coming to me, I'm gonna be using my intuitive side to to guide you on how to heal. But the fact that they've even come to me, I think they are dipping into their spiritual side, the spirit world is trying to show them this is the way to help you. Yeah. Now, you know, and if someone is skeptical and you know, I'm like, that's absolutely fine, you know. Just yeah, I will give you what I what I you know. I've turned, I think I've turned quite a few people that were skeptical as well. And I think that is how society has made us to come away from the spiritual side and just be purely logical. Um, so yeah, but I I'm not knocking any NHS therapy, absolutely not. I think they're amazing what they do, but I feel sometimes you do need that interaction with a human that has empathy and understands what you're going through.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, definitely.

Beyond Talk Therapy: Why Feedback Matters

SPEAKER_01

I think both a mixture of both is is definitely absolutely, and you know, I say to people myself that you know, I will get be taken to their throat chakra, and I was like, you need to talk, you need to get this out, you know, and you know, I would say a counsellor would be good for you, not more of like an independent one that is actually gonna give you feedback, you know, and because it we do need to talk, we do need that human interaction and someone that has empathy, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely okay, yeah. How can intuitive or energetic work support women who feel disconnected from their bodies or intuition after trauma, abuse, you know, different forms of conditioning as a child, even in adulthood?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, uh how can it? I think I personally would give them guidance, I would highlight their scars that you know, or what it is they're going through currently. I'd make them see their worth. I would teach them to raise their vibration, almost like a bit of coaching type of thing, is what I feel helps them. So, yeah, so I I would just tap in because everyone is so different, you know. We we I think we we spoke about this before, didn't we? Where it's almost like you can go to a program and it's like so generic, you know. But everyone is so different, even in their way of learning. And the spirit world teaches me on how to get through to that person what it is that they need to work on. A lot of women that I work with have such low self-worth and they hide behind these this mask of beautiful makeup. You know, I'm not going to criticize that, but they just hide away from what is going on in in their lives and in their heart. And so the spirit world guides me on how to help them. You know, it might be that I might work with some more longer than others, but you know, some people are ready to receive around the types of healing that I that I would be able to offer them.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, what would you say to someone who feels curious but scared to explore this kind of healing?

Reconnecting After Abuse And Low Self-Worth

SPEAKER_01

Oh, see, yeah, so I get a lot of people that go, Oh, don't tell me anything bad, don't tell me anything bad, and I'm like, I'm not gonna do that, you know. I'm all love and light, you know, it's uh it's um make you know, I'm there for guidance, and I only ever want to help somebody. So yeah, if so a lot of people that are local to me, sometimes yeah, they get so nervous, and I'm like, it's fine. They're like, Can I bring someone to like sit with me? And I'm like, Yeah, that's fine. So you you know, even if you're doing a video call and you want someone in the background with you just to hold your hand, it's like that's absolutely fine, also. But it's yeah, I would not be afraid. I I mean, I would never tell them anything not nice. Don't get me wrong, I get warnings, you know, where I would say, you know, just hypothetically, you've not learned you're going around in your unconsciousness, okay, because you've attracted the same type of man again. I would say caution, there's caution with that one, okay. Or go at a slow pace because there's something obviously that you need to experience there. So I would give you little warnings, but I'll be very tactful how I did it, unless you ask me to be that black and white, and I'd say he's not for you, love sometimes that is what we want.

SPEAKER_02

So this is really good because this leads into working with you. So working with you has been a powerful part of my healing. So where I started working with you, just you know, getting the simple guidance, it then developed even in each layer as I went deeper and deeper through the healing for my work. So I remember it getting to one point where I feel like my nervous system completely just shut down, and I turned to you and was we were really able to then, it was like the spirit world were able to then open up that that part to be able to guide and direct me because I was finally able to see what was going on, and I think it just it became overwhelmed. But having you in part of my journey really helped me to get me to where I am today. So when we first started working together, what did you notice about where I was energetically or emotionally?

SPEAKER_01

I think when we first started working together, I think you had been so trodden down by not just men but life. And this, you know, I think went back to childhood, and it was, but you there was a fight in you that didn't want to accept that, you know. So I think that was one of the first things that I picked up on is that this this lady is trying so hard to do this work on herself, but it was just there was just one hurdle after another, it wasn't there. And but you were so you never lost faith. Every now and again your vibration would dip, but you never not faith, I don't because it's not a religion, but you you still kind of like no, I'm not giving up. It that I think that was what it was. You still wasn't ready to give up, and you just kept on going. I think I was very lucky with you because you were very open to the spirit world yourself. That there was that understanding that timelines change, and there was still more learning, and there was still that you needed to do some more healing. So I was very, very lucky with you in that respect.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Well, that was a sad thing to hear. There's more.

SPEAKER_01

There isn't more. You're fine.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. So what in so what kinds of patterns or wounds tend to show up for women who've lived through toxic relationships with, you know, partners, family, friendships, you know, in their career, you know, lived through abusive relationships as well or gone through, you know, trauma?

Working Together: Noticing Real Shifts

SPEAKER_01

They it's that they doesn't they don't have any self-worth. They really don't value themselves because they've been in narcissistic gaslighting relationships where uh they'll they they will lead those types of relationships, but they will attract the exact carbon copy, but in a different form. Yeah, and they'll think, Oh my god, I've been I'm being love-bombed by him, he's different, he's different, but then it turns out he's the same type of man. So any that any uh well and women, you know, women are just the same, uh summer, and uh, but they they're not looking for the red flags, and because they're so desperate to be loved, they rush into it as well. So, you know, it would be like that. I feel like a lot of women need to kind of like slow down the the pace, is what I feel. But yeah, but they they get very much caught up in their unconsciousness, you know, and there is you know trauma bonds there. I think I would say to a lot of people is have a break in between relationships so you can heal and reflect, sorry, reflect and heal what you have learnt from that relationship.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so from your perspectives, going back to working with me on my healing, what did you see in me over time? What was I what sorry, what shifts did you see in me over time?

SPEAKER_01

You I would say you would um shifts you really you you uh would believe in yourself and then you would be like, yeah, I'm going for it, you know, and you would have yeah, just like I don't you really believed in yourself and then something would happen and then you would then plummet, but you are so good at hiding it as well, so good at hiding it. But I've seen you come on leaps and bounds, leaps and bounds.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, that does make sense because that that is one of the biggest shifts for me, is was learning to trust myself again. So trusting my body, trusting my intuition, trusting my own truth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

When you go through these patterns and these cycles, you end up losing that sense of self and you end up not being able to trust yourself, especially if you're being gaslighted, you're always questioning, you know, what's real, what isn't real, and then you lose that, you disconnect from yourself, don't you? So, yeah, I I would agree that is one of the massive shifts.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and I think unfortunately, with yourself, when you do make those changes and there is an exposure of a situation that does bring you down, all these old emotions come back up, and you think, Oh god, I thought I healed all of this, you know. And but I think that's really lessening with yourself now, and I think that has been a massive shift with you to really close the door, really to get justice in certain areas of your life as well. Yeah, I think yeah, there's been a been a lot of shifts with you, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely, okay. So, with why do you think reconnecting to your intuition is so important for a woman or a man to reclaim their power back?

Patterns After Toxic Relationships

SPEAKER_01

So that side is because your intuition is your best guide, it is that feeling in your stomach when something doesn't feel right, and it never ever guides us wrong, you know. It's I'm sure she won't mind me using it as an example, but I'm not gonna say her name, but she I'm sure she won't mind me telling the story. But there was this lady that I know who was seeing a man and he was uh being very narcissistic towards her and wanted to go back to his ex-partner. There was something telling her that day, and she it was this feeling in her stomach that something wasn't right, and she went round to this lady's house, and there outside the house was his car, and she could have gone, no, no, he wouldn't do that to me, he wouldn't do that to me. But she trust that intuition and she was able to see it for herself. And I think that's what the spirit world does with you is you sometimes we have to actually have to have the physical, which is seeing, and our intuition is never ever gonna guide us wrong. So I would say always trust your intuition. And trust your intuition when you meet somebody, you think, Oh, something's a bit off with this person. There's always a reason for that, yeah. You know, you know, whether it be a situation or a person, I think our intuition guides us uh greatly, it really, really does. So yeah, even like um with children, you know, when they say, Oh no, my belly hurts, my belly hurts. I I don't, you know, I I don't want to go to this friend's house. And then when you dig into it and you say, Why don't you want to go? Oh, they weren't very nice to me. It's that they're getting that feeling in their tummy. Yeah, you know, it is that is that is their intuition that's telling them not to go.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely no, I totally agree with that 100%. I think that's like the most powerful parts of the healing is you have to see it and you have to believe it, like you have to see that reality of what the truth is, and it really just it propels you, yeah, really does, and then you make that choice there, and then when you see it, am I, you know, gonna choose myself um work on me and heal me and go for better, or you know, am I gonna sit in that same situation? It's a it's it's it's a powerful moment, I think.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. I think we just have to a a lot of people, men and women, just have to start to learn to trust that intuition.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Okay, so what kinds of women usually come to work with you?

Trusting Intuition As Daily Guidance

SPEAKER_01

All sorts. I get various ages, some in their 80s, some in their you know, early teens, mid-20s, all sorts of people, all walks of life. You know, some very, very successful women, uh, very successful men, and then you know, some that are still on the beginning of their journey trying to discover who that who they are. So, yeah, all sorts. I can't even pinpoint to say I only deal with this caliber of people because it I deal with every everybody from all walks of life.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay. So, what are some of the most common struggles they're carrying when they arrive?

SPEAKER_01

Lots of childhood trauma, lots of um people that have been in not very nice relationships, um, but the biggest thing is um I would say the wellness side of things, which is, you know, as I think I mentioned earlier, um, self-worth, self-belief, um, not loving themselves, yeah, that type of thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Um how does your work help women from moving from survival into alignment and self-trust?

Who Comes For Readings And Why

SPEAKER_01

I think it brings them comfort. I'd like to think that. I think it brings them comfort, feeling that you know, I've got someone of mutual value that I can go to as trust, because all readings are confidential, and to get that connection with the spirit world, which is so comforting, you know, knowing that someone is around them, helping them, and that is seeing what they're going through. So, yeah, so I I would like to think it's that's how it helps people. Predictions on what is to come that gives them that glimmer of hope, and then when it happens, I get these lovely messages to like women that want babies, and you know, if I see them holding a baby that they've been trying for for years, and I tell them that, and it gives them that hope, and then when they're holding it, they they send me these lovely messages going, You were right, you were right, you know, it's so lovely, you know. So I I give them insights on the future of what I see is gonna happen, you know. So, because I think sometimes that unknown, you know, what's gonna happen next, what's gonna happen if I start these new beginnings, and you know, am I gonna be on my own? Am I gonna have no money? You know, but I'm there to tell them what I see, and that yeah, it might be hard, you know, but you'll get through it, yeah. And yeah, it's you know, there are gonna be these everyday struggles, but you know, it the outcome is you're gonna sit in your front room and feel everything feels lighter and yeah, and you'll be able to see clearer, so then you're gonna make the right judgments for you. So that's the type of thing that I would like to think that I do for people.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely. I think if you have a session with you, you definitely you walk away and you realize and you've been seen.

SPEAKER_01

And I think yeah, I think that's it.

SPEAKER_02

They don't they don't feel that way. So when they've worked with you, and definitely from my own personal experiences with you, you do walk away feeling, yeah, I've been seen. And it's you're not only do you show when you're guiding, you also are very clear on, yeah, you're you're repeating old cycles again. You're you're yeah, I can be a bit brutal saying you're not learning, but I know I think what people you need that, like for me, that was definitely like a good thing for me. So I knew when I was repeating the same behaviors that won't break that cycle. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I'm about to clarify, don't tell people off. Yeah, I just sort of say, Well, you you didn't learn on that one, you know. So I'm not brutal I'm not that brutal, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's it's more like highlighting and re guiding, you know, where the Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

It is highlighting, you know, did you make the right choice for you then? Or was you people pleasing again? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

And you do your questions, you're right, they are on point. They like I like to have a yearly reading with you. And did it last year, just before this year began. And I did the reading, you said to me, You're gonna have your gallbladder taken out. And then literally, within weeks of that reading, there I was in A being told I'm getting my gallbladder out. But I was fine about it because Natalie told me I wasn't prepped. Exactly. I was like, it's fine, take it out. Because I've been doing that for a whole year. Yeah, yeah, it does prepare you for things that are gonna come. Yeah, okay. What transformations have you witnessed that will stay with you forever?

SPEAKER_01

Um what transformation within people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so like where you've done you've worked with people, what transformations have you seen like oh god, I don't think I can even pinpoint one thing.

From Survival To Alignment And Hope

SPEAKER_01

I just think everyone has got such different journeys, and each individual has their own little accomplishments, and and it is each and every one is so rewarding. I I I honestly would say each and every one is so rewarding, and you know, and then when I am doing a yearly read for them, or you know, and you look back and you think, Christ, I was reading for them weekly or monthly, and look how far they've come. But yeah, I can't I can't say I can pinpoint one thing. Yeah, I think everyone's little journey is just so lovely, and I think they're all my accomplishments because not I'm that's gonna sound really big headed, but no, like with me, you being that channel from the spirit world, I I'm just so grateful that I can be a part of that little you know little part of their journey, but they're all massive accomplishments, and um yeah, I'm so proud of each and every one of my customers.

SPEAKER_02

You definitely are what we would call a light worker, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so how what boundaries do you believe are essential in healing work, especially for trauma survivors?

SPEAKER_01

I think a lot of people should be putting boundaries there for making a little bit of space for themselves, and that's okay to do that, you know, for the people that always doing for the people is reserve a little bit of energy for you. If you're not in that right frame of mind and you need to have a day to yourself, that is okay. Put a boundary in there. I don't want to see anyone today. Yeah, what are the boundaries? Surrounding yourself by the right people, it's okay to cut people off, you know, you know, because otherwise they're just gonna keep on drowning you. We need to cut them off so we can then keep moving. So, yeah, it is okay to put boundaries. You know, I say to a lot of people, like, who you were friends with when you were kids, I bet you know, you might be very lucky enough to have one or two with you, but you know, not everyone is supposed to experience the whole of our journey, and they were meant to be for us then because there was certain learning, you know. So put boundaries for people, situations, and it is okay to spend a little bit of time, give a little bit of time back to yourself.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, how can women tell if a practitioner is safe and aligned for them?

SPEAKER_01

I would say well, for me, I don't mind if people just want to call me up and hear my voice because I think sometimes people connect with people's voices, look at reviews. You know, I'm I I I there are a lot of fraudulent people out there. Yeah, look at reviews, give them a call, just say, Look, can you tell me what it is that you do? You know, and I would like to think people would do that for me as well. You know, call me up and just say, Look, I want to book in with you, but can you tell me what it is that you do? How we connect how we can connect. But yeah, so yeah, listen to their voice. Reviews is the biggest thing, and I think one of the other things is word of mouth as well. So, yes, you might not have the same experience as someone else, but if someone else can recommend them, I think that's also a good thing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think definitely, I think on this one it's going back to definitely trusting that intuition. So if someone don't work with them, if it feels and you're you know it feels good, go for them because you're allowed to be able to work with it.

Tough Love, Being Seen, And Cycles

SPEAKER_01

Um and it's it's about that investment with yourself. But yeah, I think yeah, reviews I think is is a good thing because that's someone's experience as well. Yeah, trusting that intuition. If they're on social media, look at their social media pages. Yeah, just trust, yeah, trust that intuition. And also a bit like myself, so I do I can my my cheapest one is 20 minutes for 20 pounds. If it during that in the year you've got a spare 20 pounds, is you know, it's not that much money. I know it is to a lot of people as well, but it is, you know, start off on a smaller and see if it fits for you. Definitely I agree. Yeah, you know, and a bit like with what yourself, you do a lot of these um these free sessions, you know, where people can jump workshops, you do free workshops. They're perfect because you you you would then know if that person is if you can connect with you, you know, or if what it is that you do uh fits, you know. I think a lot a lot of other medium clairvoyants they do like TikToks and things like that. Unfortunately, you won't see me on them because that fills me with fear.

SPEAKER_00

But I've got a lot of reviews.

SPEAKER_02

And this podcast episode.

SPEAKER_00

And this podcast episode, which is also making me nervous. Oh I'm here, I'm pushing myself.

SPEAKER_02

Definitely. I think, yeah, try. I think if you're gonna look for someone to work with, definitely look at the reviews that you said. Um I think that's a big thing, yeah. If they're you know doing things like like I do, like free workshops, I can do you know, calls with you before you think about you know purchasing anything that I do, it gives you that feel and you can really work out does it does it absolutely?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. If you've got someone that is working from the heart, they will give you five minutes on the phone. You know, if I'm in it just for the abundance, then I would be like, no, book for my website. But honestly, if good medium clairvoyant or a good healer in in any shape or form will give you that five, ten minutes on the phone just so you can feel comfortable, know that you can feel comfortable with that person, yeah, and and I think that speaks volumes for someone who's in it because they want to help people.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, definitely. How do you work with women who are skeptical? So this is kind of leading on from that, or new to spiritual healing. So, how would you create, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Well, as I said earlier, it's like the there must be something in them that's drawing them to the spiritual, a spiritual reading or spiritual healing, because it's bottom there, and I would, you know, and I would say, you know, a bit like what I said earlier, it's like you can bring someone with you, um, I can do the cheapest of what I do, which is 20 minutes, and then if you ever wanted to extend it, we can always do that. So, yeah, so I I would say just have that open mind. But I I I would honestly think if they've come this far that they would that there is that slight open mind there, but yeah, open mind, just trust what you're gonna hear, make notes, record it, or you know, I would say record it so you could always listen back to it. Because sometimes you're sitting there and you're thinking this doesn't make sense, and then when you listen back to it when you've got no distractions around you, you go actually that all does make sense, yeah. Yeah, so I just think, yeah, just have a little bit of an open mind and yeah, remove any fears and nerves.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, okay. So, what is the one message you would want every woman or man healing from any form of abuse, toxic relationships, trauma, the lot to hear right now.

Boundaries That Protect Healing

SPEAKER_01

I would say that you're not alone. There are a lot of very gifted people that are ready to help you, and when you're ready, even if you dip in and out of it a few times before you're ready to take that plunge, is just trust it. Yeah, just trust it. We are here, we only want to help. But yeah, so any form of healing, you know, there's so many gifted people out there, just see what one works for you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, definitely. I would definitely say explore, explore different forms of healing.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, there's so many, there's so many, I mean, there's amazing healers out there, and yeah, explore and see which one is the one that's meant for you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I've like I've been that person that's definitely tried loads of types of different forms of healing, and I know, and I'm still, you know, willing to be intrigued by it all, yeah. So I'm you know, along the journey, I will continue to keep trying different things, but I also have learnt what works for me and how to keep continuing it and embedding it into my life to be able to do that transformational work.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, uh definitely. So a woman feels stuck, disconnected, or lost. What is one more small step she can take towards herself today?

SPEAKER_01

Believing in yourself and open up that throat chakra and just talk and speak. Yeah, talk and speak is the same bloody word, but yeah, speak.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, thank you, Natalie, for sharing your wisdom, your heart. You're very, very welcome. Your work has impacted my life deeply, and I know it will resonate with so many women listening. So if this episode has resonated with you, I do invite you to sit with what came up. Healing doesn't require force, it starts with listening. So if you are ready to continue your healing journey in a supported, trauma-informed space and want to learn more about what Natalie does or my unshuckled programme, then you can connect today through the links below on the show notes. But it's been amazing having you here.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you for having me. Something else I can pick off my list that I've done now.

Choosing A Safe Practitioner

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. All right, guys, thanks for listening. Bye. Thank you for being here today, for choosing yourself, for choosing your healing, and for choosing a path that not everyone is brave enough to walk on. Remember, your nervous system learns safely through repetition. Your mind expands through, and your spirit writes every time you honor what's going on to you. Today's episode space takes a point. You can find all the details on the journalists. Now you are not identity, you are not kind of you are on the other hand, like you're told, and wider into the woman you always meditate. On your pink, on the