ChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E20) "Victimhood - not surprising when one looks for it, they find it"

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ChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E20) "Victimhood - not surprising when one looks for it, they find it"
Topic TheLibertyBeacon.com "Victimhood - not surprising when one looks for it, they find it" piece! And as I always say, the CTP show is meant as companion to the TLB piece that corresponds with this episode. So, whole lot more on "VICTIMHOOD" in the TLB piece, as I had the great honor to discuss Crime and Punishment with Herbert "Herby" Kay (The1964Plan.org founder (He must be a Racist wanting to go back to the 1960s, Right? NO, listen to show and LOGIC / REASONING and not Leftist #IdentityPolitics emotional-hysterics false accusations)) that went longer than expected and wanted therefore to keep every second of that discussion so "cut short" Segment 1 my vocalization part of the Victimhood topic.


Episode related pieces...
- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/expecting-victimhood-no-surprise-one-finds-it/  
- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/should-be-duh-now-i-get-it-moment-but-wont-be-for-the-left/  
- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/crime-criminals-the-lefts-strained-lacking-credulity/  
- https://The1964Plan.org  
- see the discussion w/ Herby via Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kti-1tmh2U  

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(S1E20 Audio: 1h 14m 10s, Sat Nov 04 2023)
TRANSCRIPT BONUS - Crime, Criminals, and left’s strained/lacking Credulity.

Chapters

• 0:00 Show intro
• 1:05 Segment 1 - Victimhood
• 6:34 Is there still any Racism in America?
• 6:59 MLK Jr "Content Of Character"
• 8:54 Segment 2 - discussion with Herbert "Herby" Kay on Crime/Punishment
• 1:13:46 Where to find more on Herby Kay and his The1964Plan
• 1:15:25 Show outro

Transcript

[ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast begin Show intro]

Welcome to ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast aka: CTP in association with savage and filtered podcast The Liberty beacon calm and I am your host Joseph M Lenard and that's L E N A R D   CTP is your no must no fuss just me you And occasional gas type podcast as Graham Norton would say let's get out of the show 

[ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast - Segment 1]

Welcome to constitutionalist politics season one episode 20 full disclosure I had a whole opening segment one in the can about 20 25 minutes long but I've promised you I would try to keep the show 20 to 40 minutes and I had such a great conversation that went a lot longer than anticipated with Herbert Herbie Kayay and I want you to hear every minute of that that an occasional show would go an hour we're pushing that pushing beyond that so I'm re-recording these opening segment so I will say the show titled still victimhood if you're looking to find it don't be surprised if you don't find it around every corner I'll just briefly vocalize that for this episode because I say the Liberty beacon calm pieces and the CTP show are meant to compliment each other not be either or or identical to each other so crime and punishment I will be discussing you could go to the Liberty beacon calm in the search field put in Joseph M Leonard find the older piece should be a dull moment for the left but won't be regarding crime and punishment which is why I had Herbie on I have written about crime and punishment in the past we've not done a CTP show on it so the interview or rather discussion I prefer to call them with him we'll go into that and be that aspect as a follow-up to that article follow it find that there regarding victimhood the piece that's dropping on the Liberty beacon calm the same time the show dropped Saturday morning November the 4th again Joseph M Lenard in the search field if you're seeing this right after the show it should be at the top of the list to find but victimhood Martin Luther King Jr content of character this is I hate to discuss this but I feel compelled I'm a regular at the local big boy here in Wyndotte Michigan I sit at the corner booth normally when it's open right by the door a white couple man and woman come in and the white girl says to them would you like to sit around the corner around the back not an issue obviously why is she doing this because we're in Wuhan hysteria time again they are spreading people around the restaurant a black woman comes in next she says the same thing oh my god of course it must be because she's black now never mind that the restaurant is owned by dark skin era mohmericans who have been victim of racist nonsense themselves it's not like they decided hey let's own this franchise hire a bunch of white girl races to operate our restaurant not the case but of course the black woman lacking any contents context not contents context assumes of course it had to be because she's black well she sat in the booth next to me so I had a conversation while lo and behold and the reason I'm talking about this and wrote about this is she claimed to have been victim of racism just a few hours prior at the high hop at breakfast what's the common denominator for not everybody else so you expect to be a victim don't be surprised when you find it everywhere you go it's ridiculous I apologize to the waitress later because I wish I would have said something more I tried to downplay it just like of course the restaurant they you know they don't want to make a big deal they just try to serve her get her in get her out if she's gonna be a problem never mind the fact black and white woman to move over this place is so racist it's constantly frequented by black people but yeah I guess they love going to racist restaurants but again this woman assumes it has to be all about her and her blackness as ridiculous as it was I should have said to her you want to find racism go home look in your mirror lady but I let it go I let it pass it stewed on me and therefore I had to write this article to call this out is there some racism of course there is racism that still exists places and with some people you have a right in this country to hate whomever you want you don't have a right to discriminate which I discussed with her me that's just the way it is and it doesn't black white pink purple turquoise content of character same thing with crime you do the crime you need to do the time enough with this victimhood mentality that oh they had no choice sorry in this nation you are held personally responsible for the actions you take you commit crime you should be held accountable for it otherwise there's no cash bail nonsense those on the margins see all these other people again black white pink or purple doesn't matter if you're letting a bunch of criminals out to reoffend those on the margins say why don't I engage in it there's no punishment there's no consequences so we discuss all that again I'm cutting this short so we can get into that interview please go to the Liberty beacon calm to see the victimhood piece there should be a dull moment but won't be for the left also crime the modern left crime and criminality lacking all credulity so without further ado I'm just going to leave it here I think the position is clear we judge on content of character there are always going to be people with a victim mentality yes there will always be some racist but it is illegal to discriminate but that doesn't matter to some people it's got to be all about them and themselves being a victim take care god bless 

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[ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast - Segment 3 - Discussion w/ Herbert "Herbie" Kay]

This is going to be different I will be having with me Herbert Kay and those of you who watch at @JLenardDetroit behind the scenes sneak peek on YouTube or rumble can see I like to do the segue slash introductions of guests with the guest on the line so that we're not just going cold and then all those of you who know me through either my TheLibertyBeacon.com writings or before snooze dot com writings or any of my dozen plus social media platforms know I can't resist bad puns jokes and gags so I've got to say because of Herbert Kay the jewelry ad every kiss begins with K no there will be no jewelry exchange or make out session happening today I wish I was that K yeah exactly but anyway so seriously let's hear what Herbert Kay is about and indeed why he is here welcome to the show Herbert Kay it's a pleasure and call
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  me herbie no one calls me Herbert okay when I was a kid I took a lot of ribbing you know Jewish people I'm Jewish Jewish people named their children after dead relatives generally speaking there's no such thing as a Jewish junior you know you'd never you'd never see John Smith junior or you know Arthur Goldstein junior that would never happen so I'm named after a dead uncle and the name Herbert when you're a kid is a tough name yeah it rhymes with sherbet then it rhymes with pervert and you know and you know and so I don't use it it's herbie you can now I think it's cute but you know then I yeah well well
JOSEPH M LENARD:  that brings to mind Disney and the love bug but anyway every oh god if I've been
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  called the love bug I've lost track how many times I've been called love bug
JOSEPH M LENARD:  but you know what I never thought about Jewish lineage in that way yeah no junior seniors or seconds in the third and never never it never dawned on me I never thought of it never questioned it until you just brought it up but I learned something to every day learn something to every day and that's why I'm happy to have guests and people might actually be surprised another guest as my opening of my show always says occasional guests because I didn't expect to have guests in my first season and you know it's a great opportunity that people are willing to come on this humble show in the first season you know absolutely I'm why would I turn that down right the way I look at it is do you
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  know what the six degrees of separation are yes okay so we're all separated by six degrees and for the people listening you know let's say that I named let me name somebody let's say Vladimir Putin God forbid you know buddy who know who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who knows Vladimir Putin I mean you know that's what separate degrees of separation so my feeling is I do any podcast modest or big it doesn't really matter because it only takes one person to know another person to say this guy's interesting and the next thing you know so you know I'm just like you I'm enthusiastic big smaller in between
JOSEPH M LENARD:  I don't care we have the same philosophy I take the same philosophy about being a guest on shows to talk about my books whether it be terror strikes coming soon to a city near you how to write a book and get it published or my current constitutionalist politics absolutely why turn down an opportunity and exactly you know because you never know who indeed will hear it but anyway so why are you here why would anybody care about her being well whether they care
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  about me or not is fine I'm not I'm not here for personal a granddysman so quickly for your audience just so they understand my background did you watch the video on the on the website on 1964 plan.org have you watched the video no
JOSEPH M LENARD:  okay so you don't know gonna blow smoke here and say I did when I didn't I
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  didn't got it yeah okay so there's a website called the 1964 plan.org we are and myself and along and a bunch of other people are a 501c3 charity I'm not charity non-profit sorry and they're really synonymous if you were to donate money to us you can tax deducted we're a C3 not a C4 and the reason we're C3 is because we are apolitical I don't care if you're Democrat or Republican or libertarian or whatever you are this you know you can talk politics if you want to but but it's not I think it's a dirty business what can I say speaking of dirty business let's talk about the worst thing about me so people Google they're gonna find out anyway so I might as well tell you. So from oh no it is an uh-oh but it was a it was a transformative experience which you as a Christian will understand so from the from the time I've had a very interesting life and I've done so many different things that it's it almost sounds like I'm making it up I was a Russian linguist at the National Security Agency I've been a sailor I've been in the insurance business I've been a venture capitalist I've been a venture lender I've been a paid speaker I've been a TV personality I've been a talking head on the networks I've been what else have I done oh I'm a best-selling author I wrote a best-seller in 1999 speaking of getting published and I have a new one hold on that I haven't put out yet but this will be the next book whoops this is called I don't know if you can say well I don't know if it's gonna focus it's called the Grandmaster and anyway it's so it's an intrigue kind of an intrigue novel yeah you got your
JOSEPH M LENARD:  setting set to blur your background so yeah I know yeah you know I don't have a fancy background you know I finally got a green screen so yeah it looks great
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  but for me you know I'm a simple man my last business I was a real estate developer and not only was I a real estate developer I was a real estate developer in Mexico which is a whole different follow-up and yes I speak Spanish in addition to Russian and German and French I in my family foreign language runs my mother God rest her soul had a degree a major in Spanish a minor in French her when I was a little boy she worked at Miami I was born in Miami Beach she was born in Miami Beach she was born she worked at Miami Beach savings loan as a bilingual teller I spoke Spanish before I spoke English because her housekeeper was Cuban and she didn't speak English and my mother spoke Spanish to her and she spoke Spanish to me which comes in handy it comes in handy because I lived in Arizona and I live in Phoenix and if you don't love Latino culture don't live here this is this is a this is a this is a majority Latino state I love Mexican culture I love it but you know some people do some people don't anyway so the in the in the crash of 2008 I went down with the ship and in trying to save the company I broke the law there's just no doubt about it I did and I don't weasel about it and I don't get into explanations and I don't get into explaining what happened or context and the reason that I don't do that is because it's all gonna sound like weaseling and you know I'm I'm just not gonna do it I did it I'm I it's the worst thing in my life and if you choose to judge me by the worst thing I've ever done at the worst possible time in my life then okay there's nothing I can
JOSEPH M LENARD:  do about it you come to the right show constitutionalist politics Christian based constitutionalism and part of that is redemption right we are all for redemption can only come states you have to admit it exactly and you're being honest and we are about dealing with
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  reality I did it I did it and I'm not gonna explain anything else about it because everything's gonna sound like weaseling and I'm not a politician and I'm not gonna run for office and I'm not gonna start weaseling okay I'm just I'm just not gonna do it I just one of the things I can't stand about politicians they can't answer a question but anyway that's by the way I don't know if you see my shirt it says stop electing morons yeah oh great it's great that's great
JOSEPH M LENARD:  and you know I said hey it's an opportunity I'll have anybody on well that's you know that's a little white lie obviously if you're here to talk jigsaw puzzles or jingon no but if you remotely relate to the show and this show is often based off of my the Liberty Beacon dot com pieces and anyone could go to the Liberty Beacon dot com put Joseph M. Leonard in the search field and especially find the piece called duh should be an awakening moment for the left but won't be regarding crime coddling well let's talk about it let's
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  talk about crime and that's why you're here I'm here because unusual you know I've been at the very top I was very wealthy I've owned three or four airplanes four airplanes I'm also a licensed pilot that's another thing I've done I flew my own airplanes I lived in big houses I had boats I you know all of that and then I crashed all the way to the bottom and got a view of a part of our culture and society that people like me don't see you can't learn what I've learned in a sociology class it's and so because I was surrounded by thousands literally over the course of the five years I was in I wasn't in totally five years but about four and a half that I was there I met hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and I met them personally because those boys almost all of those boys men come from fatherless backgrounds about 99% I'm not exaggerating when I say 99% of them and they want to father so I became what is called in prison a yard dad because I was an older guy and you know I wasn't a gangster a lot of these young men but I was always straight with them like if they were being stupid I would look right in the eye and tell them you're being stupid and I got along with all the races in prison prison is segregated now it's not segregated by the corrections officers it's segregated by the by the inmates themselves no selection yes yes so there's the white the white you're called the woods which is short for peckerwood I don't know why they like that name but they do the the black people are called the kinfolk the Native Americans are called the chiefs the Mexicans and Latin Americans who come from out of the country they're not American citizens they're the Pysas Pysa in Spanish means country they're the Pysas and then there's the Chicanos which are the American Mexicans and those two groups hate each other okay they don't really mix and the reason they don't mix is the way that the Chicano speak Spanish they speak spanglish they throw a lot of English in with their Spanish and the mexicans in Latin Americans El Salvadorans Guatemalans that kind of thing Hondurans they just
JOSEPH M LENARD:  they don't tolerate that well the same way an Oxford English speaker from the UK doesn't like our American English yeah you know I speak Cuban Spanish
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  which really drove them crazy because I dropped the ends off of my words but that's another story so anyway but I did you know because I speak Spanish I was well integrated in the community I got along especially well with the kinfolk with the black guys I don't know why but I seem to identify with them and what was interesting was I was very straight with those folks we'll get into that in just a minute so because of that experience and that exposure it it came to me that to earn my redemption and by the way another thing about Judy is in that I don't know if you know this so Christianity and by the way I'm well read in Christianity interests me I'm obviously living in a Christian dominated country I'm very comfortable with it I've spoken before many churches I and I read the the Bible the Christian version of it what we call the New Testament but you call whatever you want I've read it I don't know maybe a dozen times front the back and thought that I could recite you know every part of it but I know what Matthew Luke Mark and John said and I and I know what Paul did and I know what his letters are and you know I have a good grasp of Christianity and Christianity is redemption through faith Christ died for your sins except Christ as your Savior redemption through faith Jews don't do that Jews believe in redemption through acts so you have to it we view life is like a ledger and you can do bad things and you can do good things but you got to try to do mostly good things and and and on that is Jews are done it Jews are kind of like talk is cheap just the Jewish point of view they want to see you do it okay so
JOSEPH M LENARD:  well that's not entirely un-Christian I talk all the time you shall be known by your fruits Matthew judge not let's see be judged there's more to that scripture there's 12 others about judging biblically that includes remove the log from your own eye well Jesus was a Orthodox to your ex do matter I'm sorry fellow Christians if that upset you but I knew a lot of I knew a lot of jail
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  house Christians at the minute they walked out the door they dumped their Bible but that's another story I knew a lot of sincere guys too that found Christ in prison too and and there were a lot of Christian a lot of ministries going on it within prison but I don't want to that's digression so with the with the knowledge that I gained and especially I gained a special knowledge of the drug cartels and the reason I gained a special knowledge is that those guys were in prison too and they were the smartest guys there intellectually speaking and they were an interesting conversation and they're not like don't it's not like the movies they're not walking around with with blood dripping off their fangs you know they they're just people the reason that they're so violent I don't know if you've ever thought about this but the reason there's so much violence in the drug business is because it's illegal and since it's illegal they can't go to court so so when they do business with anybody it's on a handshake there are no contracts in the drug business consequently if you don't live up to your side of the bargain they're only alternative is violence so that just to understand the context these people are not psychopaths they don't walk around thinking of how can we kill everybody we see if I mean that makes good movies but that's not and no one would work for them if everybody got killed most people work for them and it's it's like anything else it's it's a huge enterprise run by smart people really very smart people because let's be honest our police are basically bureaucrats with guns and they're they are not at the same level that these drug people are they're just not
JOSEPH M LENARD:  well they're called crime families for a reason even non-family they try to treat his family because for no other reason you've got to try to breed loyal
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  key with it they're they treat their people well generally speaking they make a tremendous amount of money and the point I want to make about that is the drug war was lost from the day it was started it it it there's no chance zero no matter how many times you hear them go on you know politicians you we want we need to put them in prison we need to lock them up we need to do this we need to do that baloney we will never ever ever stem the flow of drugs and in a really in this so anyway let me go back to what I'm doing and and I'll talk about it so what I did when I got out is I never want to touch money again so so when I formed this nonprofit I am not on the board of directors there's an independent board of directors and I am not an officer by choice I'm not president or vice for none of that I don't see the money I don't handle the money I don't look at the organization there are other people to do that all I do is what I'm doing now I am I am the face and the creator of the 1964 plan but I do not manage it because I just don't even want the appearance of money
JOSEPH M LENARD:  around me again yeah yeah well I am script but I do take notes and what intrigued me the most is to segue into that is the plan will return us not back to the past but the way we face the future in the past just its courage moderation and wisdom based upon objective reality and that's part of the problem here this unicorn fart delusion that if we just give criminals enough
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  ugs there will be no more crime let me the 1964 plan is a plan to end not end first of all there are no solutions there are only trade-offs okay now I didn't make that up that's from Thomas soul who's my favorites my favorite economist and Thomas soul said that and it's true there when someone says this will solve the problem all they're doing is replacing one set of side effects with another and the question is if you're gonna if you're gonna go a different route what are the what are the trade-offs for that route so I will explain the trade-offs when you'll understand them as I go into the 1964 plan the 1964 plan is a specific detailed plan to take crime is look to where it was in 1964 now the reason I picked that year 1964 is that was the year that the Civil Rights Act which passed and when the Civil Rights Act was passed it made all discrimination illegal in the United States thank God now that doesn't mean that there is still isn't discrimination that doesn't mean there still isn't battles to fight but it's against the law to discriminate in the United States to give you an example of what I'm talking about we talk a lot I don't talk a lot about it but the people do in the country racism racism racism racism they put end racism racism racism is a thought crime okay discrimination is an act it is illegal to discriminate what you think is a waste of effort you know riding it in the end zone of a football game is not going to change the minds of people who are racist and I
JOSEPH M LENARD:  had to break it to people we are free to hate if we want you just can't say to people you're shocked on that hate and you are free free to spew your hate if you want you just can't act against other people's rights on that
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  hate I'm a Jew I've experienced anti-Semitism firsthand that in my life many many times you know I've had all of this I grew up in an Irish Catholic neighborhood they were teaching in catechism until 1964 that the Jews killed Christ then that then Pope Paul changed that and from that day forward they don't teach that anymore in Catholic catechism but believe me when I tell you in the Irish Catholic neighborhood I grew up in they were anti-Semitic and it and it was not all not all I am lots of good friends not even the majority but I certainly experienced anti-Semitism and have all my life here and there but you know what yeah let me tell you how Jews deal with this and this will become relevant as we go into this Jews attitude towards discrimination is find a way and screw them okay now I cleaned that up okay but we don't the difference between us and other persecuted minorities and the reason Jews are so successful is that we expect it and we just really don't pay any attention to it yeah with okay you know if that if that's what they're gonna do they're gonna hate us okay don't do business with them find a different way to do it you know go a different what just you're beating your head against the wall to
JOSEPH M LENARD:  the other side of the yeah I certainly didn't expect to go down this road but you know Martin Luther King jr content of character right that's individualism versus collectivism and this show speaks out against that I don't care what group you belong to you are not defined by that group entirely now certainly to a degree but not entirely your specific content of character is what has to matter exactly right you know I to see and blame all Jews now again a road I didn't expect to go down some Jews certainly have aided in a bedded in the resulting death of Christ does that mean you blame all Jews
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  for the death of Christ that's blood that's blood libel blood libel is something that that's Nazi crap frankly is blood libel you know if you're one eighth of Jew you go to the concentration camp I mean that's just that it's ridiculous and we are by far the most persecuted people in history there's no one that even comes close black people have slavery ended 170 years ago the Holocaust was ended in 1945 so so let's be clear and no one ever there've been about 4,400 lynchings in the United States got all bad all bad but that's
JOSEPH M LENARD:  not six million Jews okay I'm sorry it just isn't in those lynchings by the demo KKK rats it was black and white in every shade in between of Republicans that opposed the Democrats who were the slaveholders they were so every I mean slavery goes way back way back and race issues and race in this country go way
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  back yeah Abe Lincoln Abraham Lincoln took to the moment the bullet went through his brain plan to send the black people after they were freed back to Africa that was that that was the Lincoln plan he believed that black people were equal to white people he just didn't think that the cultures could ever mix so his plans seriously that's what Liberia is Liberia the reason it has American sounding names like Monrovia is the capital James Monroe is it was created for that specific reason but you know I listen I'm glad that black people stay I'm just telling you historic interesting trivia this is an old problem it's not gonna solve but what's interesting is you and I are old enough to remember and then I want to get back to the 1964 play but you and I are old enough to remember when we would go into a restaurant if there was a mixed race couple everybody would stare I know you remember that clearly and today really who cares and today who cares you don't even notice it anymore and you know racism has gotten much better in this country I don't care what anybody says
JOSEPH M LENARD:  yeah and although I gotta say the episode season one episode 20 that this will become part of as I said the title is victimhood and again another road I didn't expect us really to go down to but that whole article at the Liberty Beacon calm that associates with this corresponding episode is indeed there are still some people though that have to feel they're the victim the whole article is on a black woman at the local big boy and the young white waitress says to her would you like to sit around the back oh of course it's got to be because she's black if you're looking for victimhood you're going to believe in find it under every rock right that's true the same waitress said the same thing to the person before but a lot of that in the black area again so let me
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  bring this out let me bring this around this is a good place to segue into the 1964 plan we have four and a quarter percent of the world's population in the United States we have 340 million people that's about four and a quarter percent of the world's population we have 25 percent of the world's prison population we imprison more people than North Korea China and Russia combined okay and that falls very heavily on the black community and the Latino community mostly and because of that it's so disproportionate you can understand their point of view okay whether you agree with it or not it is so disproportionate now what's interesting and this this is how we get into the 1964 plan we deal with the causes of crime and violence not the correlations politicians deal with correlation that and you have to understand the difference between a cause and a correlation okay so drugs correlate with crime they do not cause crime drug laws cause crime okay and drug laws cause crime because it's a prohibition and there's never been a successful prohibition in the history of mankind it's never been successfully done whenever a country tries to ban when a lot of people want something they're going to have it regardless of whether you want to give it to them or not and ironically first of all I know exactly how drugs are small smuggling to this country which I'm not going to share only because first of all I did write it in a white paper if you read the white paper on drug on drug policy that's on my website you will see exactly how they bring the drugs into this country they're not going to get caught not going to get caught I'll give you one good example the border patrol is completely infiltrated by the drug cartels they've been raising children for decades to be to literally volunteer sign up become border patrolmen that come from trusted families the entire thing is infiltrated it's it just is and you can believe that or not but it is there in when I was in prison at the Kingman prison yard the cartel was doing three and a half million dollars a year in drug sales inside prison and how the prison I know that because they kept trying to get me to wander their money which I wouldn't do but you know don't do the crime if you can't do the time I was one and done I was never going to do that again I'd be a very rich guy if I said yes but not worth it but you know I got to be friendly with them and I know how it's all done and I'll tell you how they come in the prison yard in movies it's like shoved up people's rear ends and you know things like that there's too many drugs for that there's not enough rear ends in the world for the amount of drugs in prison how it comes in today is by drone so when the prison yard is locked down the the cartel flies the drugs in on a drone and a corrections officer which most of them are corrupt they make very little money and they're infiltrated as well one of them picks it up takes it to the to the pices to the head guys and they distributed around the prison yard okay and if you can't stop the drug trade in prison you're not going to stop it on the street just let's get let's get a grip on reality here okay drugs do not cause crime drug laws cause crime the other thing that that's common to causes crime is single-parent families which is going to be something near and dear to your heart the destruction of the traditional nuclear families at the core of the 1960 for plan now why did the nuclear family destruct not only in the black community but in the Latino community the white community the only community that hasn't really been hurt by it so much is the Asian community side note if this were a racist country well how come Asians are make more money than white people on on average I mean that wouldn't be possible in a racist country but anyway let's not go
JOSEPH M LENARD:  there confusing people with reality yeah I know well I only I only deal in
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  reality but I'm an objectivist and objectivists are very much into reality those four things you mentioned by the way moderation wisdom courage and justice those the four pillars of stoicism and the reason that I blended that into with objectivism to form the 1964 plan is because of the alarming drop in religiosity in the United States it is a very bad thing that people aren't going to church now look I'm no Christian but the fact that church attendance has been dropping for years and the people who identify as atheists it's as if we've kicked over it's as if we were walking across a field and we would come to a fence and we'd say oh that's in our way and we kick it over without ever asking the most important questions which is why was defense there who put the fence up and is it protecting us or holding us in and the traditional nuclear family was protecting us and kicking it over was an enormous mistake and here's how we did it the first way we did it is we made divorce no fault in all 50 states Ronald Reagan signed the first no fault divorce law in 1969 in California he said it was the greatest mistake of his life okay because once you make divorce no fault you make marriage nothing more than another long-term relationship that you can easily get out of marriage has to be a contract with God and a legal contract that you can't get out of without tremendous difficulty because particularly not so much of your single without children but the moment you have a child as a parent what a lot of people don't understand culturally is it's not about you anymore okay now I have four children by the way and grandchildren on top of that and everything else but I have to tell you when you become a parent it's not about you anymore but we have just we're in a me me culture and so no no fault divorce was number one number two reason that the nuclear family was destroyed was the birth control pill the birth control pill became legal in 1961 and it changed our if you had to pick one event that changed our entire culture that's it it's one of those things that people never think about but and by the way I didn't make this up there are a lot of serious academic papers on this subject it I am not this isn't something I cooked up in my head think about it okay before the birth control pill girls were mostly very chased a lot of girls most girls married as virgins most boys married at virgins and and if they did mess around the girls they messed around with they would have never married because they're not they would have thought of them as a slut and would have not have never brought them home to their mother okay it was a shameful thing to have sex out of marriage yes people did let's not be naive and there's a lot you know I was a teenager and you do all kinds of things but you you were framed from actual sex because God forbid you got that girl pregnant you were gonna marry her in those days that was that they call it a shotgun marriage and that was the correct thing I know that's a lot of people if if you have a baby you're gonna have to step up to the plate young man you know that's that's just all there is to it now girls that's why the majority and when you when you marry as a virgin and then you have an intimate relationship with your wife in the old days which were better days in this way it was both parties first or nearly first in the case of it sometimes they you know they went off the war and they did it and they came home but it was their first sexual relationship and that meant no comparisons so when women are out there today counting the body counts about how many men they slept with in our culture they call it body count now when you know why men are using Viagra at a record pace because they're all worried about competing with every other guy that girl slept with okay it destroyed the satisfaction of women Yale University did a study not long ago that said women are the unhappiest now that they've ever been okay since they've been recording this women today are deeply unhappy feminism has let them down okay now I'm all for equal pay for equal work but we'll get into that in a minute I'm but a lot of this is well I'm afraid we're
JOSEPH M LENARD:  not going to really have time and it's my fault because I took us down too many other rabbit holes don't even worry about it show only goes 30 to 45 minutes oh really okay I can go more we alone are on 30 minutes so what I hate to do this to you but what are the exact specifics you want of the project to bring across to these audience before we get another rabbit hole okay I'm gonna lay the plan
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  out in simplicity and then I'm gonna tell you that if you go to the 1964 plan.org I wrote a series of white papers on each of these subjects I'm about to name one after another that you can go in and get into all the details so it's so and I wrote them for people to read them they're not academic they are footnoted so that if I make a claim like women are unhappy I'll footnote the Yale study that you know that I'm referencing but it's not you know this is easy reading it and by the way I'm funny I know it doesn't seem that way but when you read the papers they're funny and they're funny because they're blunt but anyway so here's the deal you're gonna have some of this plan I'm about to lay out you're gonna hate because it's a plan you're gonna love parts and you're gonna hate parts and that's what makes it a great plan if you ever get find anything you go I love all of that that's not a plan that's propaganda okay and a lot of people what happens is everyone on the right listens to all the news on the conservative channels box and the daily wire and you know and by the way all great I'm not judging that and the people on the left Newsmax Blaze TV you know take your pick and on and on the left they listen MSNBC and they listen to the young Turks and they listen to all that stuff but everybody the algorithms on social media then only sends you as you're as you're watching only what you like to see in here so all you do is get bombarded yeah that's called a cognitive bias and everybody has cognitive biases so I'm about to lay this out and I promise everyone watching there are parts of this you're gonna absolutely hate let me start with the one that I think most Christians will hate we're gonna have to legalize drugs when I say legalize I don't mean decriminalize decriminalize is a code word for replacing the drug lords with a useless bureaucracy let me let me make clear to you the drug addicts know what they're doing but their goal in life is not longevity see this is this is what you have to understand and when a person sinks so low as to become a real big drug addict okay about one out of ten people to use any drug becomes addicted to it whether it's alcohol or heroin about 10% of the population a lot of people understand that you can there are 90% of the people could use heroin and never get addicted for decades before the 1971 controlled substances act people did opium and all kinds of things never got addicted but there but there are there are a group of people that use drugs to escape what they consider to be a horrible reality it's the self it's the it's the unprescribed medication of self-loathing and their goal is not longevity their goal is just to get through the day so the question is why did we make it illegal well all we've done is make drugs unbelievably expensive so for example the street price of heroin is 20 times more expensive than it needs to be they could you could buy heroin as cheaply as aspirin if it were legal okay and what that means is have you ever let me ask you a question Joe can I call you Joe or you prefer Joe okay Joe have you ever been the victim of any kind of crime have you ever been a had your car broken into your house broken into yeah okay yeah there's a 99% chance that was a drug related crime okay almost everyone prison they like to say that only a third of the people in prison are there for drug charges that's one of those figures lie and liars figures thing yes that's for possession or sale but almost every robbery every beating every assault you know that virtually 100% of domestic violence is caused by alcohol the worst drug of all 100% okay it is by the way 80% of domestic violence is committed by women on men I know that's never brought around because men understand correct as a man you understand that if you hit a woman you could kill her so men don't hit women but men will allow themselves to be hit by women because they really can't hurt you unless they bring out a gun a woman can pound on y'all day she's not gonna hurt a man sorry that's just the way it is now having said that and I realized their exceptions to every rule and I'm making
JOSEPH M LENARD:  drugs and realizations and yeah before you go any further I don't hate what you're saying but I have a minor issue with what go ahead and that is where I think liberal terrians I call them liberal terrians get it wrong I would be all for legalization because as a Christitutionalist the federal government and even most states have no right to regulate what you put in your body however until we undo the safety
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  hammock oh well that's that now you're in the plan again let's go back to the plan that's part of the plan to okay so we have to legalize drugs because it'll empty the prisons to the to the event so about 80% about 80% of the people in prison will not be in prison when drugs are legal violent crime will go to nothing remember when I told you that all that drug violence is because they can't do a contract and they can't sue in court in a legalized drug environment they'll sue they'd rather go to court than shoot people it's a lot easier and you don't go to prison for it all this violent the gangs will go away the money will go out of it if they could go into Walgreens and buy the heroin it would be a much better deal for everybody now again the trade-off is they're gonna still be addicts but let's not it's a health problem not a criminal problem let's take the money the state of Arizona where I live spends 1.1 billion dollars here on prisons if drugs were legal they'd spend 200 million the other 800 million or so 900 million is plenty of money without raising taxes to do first-class rehab for those that want it okay and to treat this and we should have a massive education program just like we did for smoking just like we did for littering you don't have to make bad acts illegal you have to make the the public buy into it okay so when you and I were kids people just throw stuff out the window all the time then they put that in the in chief on the and cried and everybody saw the ad and everyone stopped littering it was really true when you and I were kids everybody smoked cigarettes today 70% of the population doesn't we can accomplish what we want to accomplish to help people without imprisoning them putting people in prison where they're just going to take more drugs because that's yeah I never saw heroin in my life in person until I was in prison I
JOSEPH M LENARD:  in prison I saw it every single day so I'm not having a qualm with this plan it's just the order because again let's go to let's go to get rid of the safety net and you deal with the consequences yourself yes legalization okay so we
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  drugs should be legalized read the white paper second thing that has to happen is we have to end no fault divorce no fault divorce when you have children has to become gone there you have to go to court and slug it out the hard way and divorce has to be a misery because we have to keep families together now the argument that well if they're young happy it's bad for your children look you're raising your children to be adults and yes it's not nice to live in a house where the parents don't like each other but it's a hell of a lot better than no father you can't it's not a choice between perfect and imperfect virtually cereal when we were kids there was no such thing as the word school and shooting was never in the same sentence okay we go you know the right falls to school with it it just never happened and the reason was we all had fathers black people in this in particular in 1960 86% of black children were born into two-parent families 86% today over 82% are not okay that explains the poverty in the black community that explains the
JOSEPH M LENARD:  criminal yeah Larry Elder and Kansas Owens and a few other blacks in the community are the only ones willing to talk about it well Thomas soul and and
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  there are a lot John McWhorter and not a lot yeah times are a change and so the second thing we have to do after we legalize drugs is and then after we make no fault divorce the law we have to end the federal welfare state now let me let me explain I told you I was a political I'm gonna sound like I'm right wing but I'm not here's what I'm gonna say devolved it to the states and let the states design their own safety net that fits their state one size does not fit all plus when you administer a social program that's smaller at the state level it's going to be much more effective and much better run and help more people and the other reason it's important which is financial really is states can't print money so what states can't just let programs go on forever that don't work like the drug war now we're 32 trillion dollars in debt we've spent over a trillion dollars on the drug work and not stop the thing you know it's let the states the governor of Wyoming is facing a very different poverty problem than the governor of New York and the governor of California the governor of Alabama is different from the governor of Washington state this to think that you can have a one-size-fits-all welfare state is insane devolved it to the states with the money they're saving by not states spend money on three things schools infrastructure and prisons if you take away 80% of the prison costs they'll have plenty of money to run a decent welfare system yeah
JOSEPH M LENARD:  okay even better yet devolve it to the synagogues and the churches charity used to be charity is a personal commandment and a local church knows as Jesus said the poor will always be among you because there are always going to be lazy who never aspire to anything but the bare minimum and the locals I agree know who the need are versus the scammers so I'm not saying the end of
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  the welfare state I'm saying the end of the federal welfare state yeah now once that's out of the way you will see marriages hold together instead of people going to prison for drug crime they can go to either rehab and now we're gonna deal with homelessness okay in the in the homeless population about half of them are seriously mentally ill and the other and all of them are seriously addicted virtually all homeless people and I knew a lot of homeless people in prison they get locked up too so I got to know them very very well they live on the street by choice I'm sorry it's true the reason they don't go to shelters yes the reason they don't go to shelters the reason they don't like to go to clinics to get other drugs is because they don't like the way that cyclot psychic drugs make them feel and they don't like to be given rules when they want to take they want to self-medicate most of them are horrible alcoholics the number one drug of the homeless by far is alcohol okay by far alcohol is the most destructive drug times a thousand last year there was 50,000 opiate related deaths there were 300,000 alcohol related deaths let's just be clear about that but you know drugs all anyway so I don't want to keep drug dwelling on the same subject yeah okay so to wrap if we legalize drugs get rid of no fault divorce devolved the welfare state to the local level okay that's basically the plan in a nut shell then we can do rehab and we can get the homeless off the street the mentally ill we can build very nice facilities where they can live their lives out quietly and in safety and do what they need to do and for the ones that are just addicts outside the city limits with that money they could build little sit little towns of those little tiny houses let them go in there and drug themselves into oblivion and they'll be happy and they won't be on the streets pooping and yes that's not that's not a perfect solution but at least the heck out of what's going on in San Francisco in New York in Los Angeles and Phoenix today and probably where you lived to and again there are no solutions only trade-offs the trade-off here is we will have the money to segregate the homeless population into a place where they'll be happier I'm talking about a place where there's no one's gonna bother them if they want rehab it'll be available if they want to take treatment it'll be available we'll have a clinic on on site if one of them overdoses but really most of the time they'll just sit in there that no one knows how to take drugs correctly like an addict okay and they'll be getting a lot more pure drugs instead of things cut with fentanyl they'll get properly cut drugs properly prepared clean needles in a quiet place and let or they can smoke their crack or they can do their crystal meth or whatever it might be in the pro quiet or drink themselves to death if that's what they want to do in the privacy of their own space off the streets not hurting other people that's the goal and that's how you know
JOSEPH M LENARD:  like I've said in another episode I talk about movies guardians of the galaxy 3 I'm amazed woke Disney of late allow that movie out because in it rocket says a very Christioshos or conservative right-wing message he promised perfection but he really just hated things the way they were that's the mantra of every I'm the tyrant on the planet there's no such thing as perfect so yes I love your plan I have an issue with maybe the order but let's
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  go order to it I was just discussing it the it all has to be done basically once the idea behind the 1964 plan dot org the nonprofit is to create public support and force politicians to do the right thing politicians are never going to stand up themselves right or left and ever do the right thing what they're going to do is take a lot of polls and pander to your cognitive biases whatever if you're one of their voters left or right by the way I think progressivism is communism just dressed up again I'm sorry I know that's a political statement but it's a horrible for a lot you fit right in here okay so but at the same time lock them up doesn't work I mean the the conservatives been yelling lock them up we lock up like I said 25% of the world's prison population and we're a republic can you believe that and and we're a teeny little part of the world population that's ridiculous it doesn't work it also doesn't work to do what they're doing just let them on the street with nothing okay a big part of the 1964 plan you'll love the part about prison reform and how I reform it and how I separate out the week from the chaff and because every prison sentence is a life sentence if you think about it so if you take an 18 year old kid who's arrested for let's say sale of heroin and he goes in now he's marked for life that's it it doesn't matter if he's serving one year or two and he knows that he knows he has no future he knows he'll never do anything but but dig ditches so he goes right back home to sell drugs again they let him out of prison with no money no training they literally leave him on a street corner literally and they expect them to be rehabilitated on what planet would that
JOSEPH M LENARD:  work no that's that's why I support a lot there's a lot more now finally better and you have my support with this as do the other reform I have it that give people when you read my prison reform and learn skills help ease them back into reality and life so they don't have to immediately return to
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  crime what you have to do what you have to do is when the prison when you first go into prison they they basically rank you based on how dangerous you are and then send you to the prison yard that's appropriate okay now what I would do is when that you come into prison I would separate out all the gangsters from everybody else now how do you know there's a gangster by the ink it's very easy okay now I'm not talking about ink that says the girlfriend's name or the or the zip code they live in or anything like that I'm talking about the swastikas and the lightning bolts and all and the tear when you see a guy with tear and drop every tear drop is someone they killed yeah if you see a guy with a war eagle across his chest he's committed murder he wouldn't be allowed to wear it all that ink what we should when you go into prison you should be offered a choice every every inmate should be offered a choice immediately we will remove your tattoos for free or you can go to the maximum security yard it's up to you now the hardcore the worst of the worst will never take off their ink they'll go to that yard and they they're there those are lost souls we'll just have to basically we should lock them up for life and now we'll have plenty of room to do it but the rest of the people separated most that most people are followers you get all of those gangsters out of the way now I propose since most inmates are very young guys like me are unusual in prison I believe we should put them through basic training we should take retired by the way I'm a Navy veteran so I want to make that clear we should take retired DIs or you know drill instructors or whatever they call it in the Air Force whatever and and put these guys these young men through basically basic training because once they accomplish it it'll be the first time in their life they ever finished anything hard and meaningful and anyone has gone through basic training will tell you when you're done with it no matter how much you didn't like it it does feel great when you're marching on that field and I propose we do exactly the same thing with their families we put these kids and if and if they do something bad they have to start over again that's the punishment and so
JOSEPH M LENARD:  you're talking to me I agree separate those who can be reformed from those who can't it's easy and put them away and you know what it's the I'm sorry the death penalty is biblical Genesis 9 6 number 35 30 Leviticus 20 I have to be
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  honest I'm opposed to death penalty I'm opposed to death penalty and the reason I am is very simple there's no doubt there is absolutely no doubt that we've executed innocent people over the years and I support the innocent product now now now when we legalize drugs and we've cut prison costs by 80% will have plenty of money to lock up murderers for life without parole which is a much worse punishment than death for these guys what you have to understand is they're not afraid of dying but at the very same time there's been enough exonerations enough DNA evidence enough things coming forward later when we find out and for every person we we exonerate they're gonna be 10 more we never found out and
JOSEPH M LENARD:  we're putting down well that goes back to there's no such thing as perfect there's going to be collateral damage so let's let's lama controversial for me like along the lines are saying like get a lot of push back Russia does this right Israel does this right between junior high and high school all our kids should get six months military boot actually actually as a part of the
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  1964 plan as part of the 1964 plan I advocate national service I forgot that and plug the phone again yeah I have one of the white papers in there is on national service I believe that every 18 year old in the country without exception no waivers no educational deferments no nothing everyone goes into two years of national service now you can choose military or non-military we can form we could take the Peace Corps make it paramilitary structure it like a military with ranks and everything else but they just do social work and building go around the world and do whatever they do or they can go into
JOSEPH M LENARD:  the military but you're gonna serve two years they're taught structure respect discipline nothing that they get the reason the vaccination factors today but
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  back and you know I'm a Vietnam era veteran I didn't go to Vietnam I want to make that clear I was in the service at the time I was a Russian linguist I was nowhere near Vietnam so I don't want to I don't want to mislead anybody but I knew a lot of Vietnam veterans a lot and let me tell you mostly they came from poor families because the rich kids got educational deferments and they pulled strings I'm for national service without exception rich poor or middle class white black it doesn't matter you're going to do your two years of mandatory national service it won't kill you you'll go to college as a freshmanist at 21 when you're gonna be much more mature much more appreciative of what and most people that's another subject but not everybody should be going to college you know there's there are lots of careers that you can do without four years of college but that's another story for an I'm not really con that's not part of the 1964 plan that was me ripping but all of those parts that we're talking about drug legalization reforming the prisons ending the federal welfare state doing away with no fault divorce mandatory national service that's all part of the and it's a holistic plan to return our culture to what it was in 1964 not to turn the clock back that's not what I'm saying that because I picked that year for the civil rights that no discrimination keep the best of what we've done and restore the best of what we had and and at the and at the core of that is the traditional nuclear family and by the way you should get married young this nonsense but one of the reasons women are so unhappy is that they put off their marriage for careers then they find themselves at 30 and having a hard time getting pregnant or even finding a man they keep you know that this man's to got this that they you got to get married young you got to get I'm sorry that's the way you're designed as a being the reason is a teenager that you're Randy all the time is is God talking to you saying reproduce yourself so you should fall in love with the girl you should marry that girl you should get an education in a job you should stay married you should raise your children together and there's we should not be embarrassed to say that that isn't right objective reality there's a mountain of data to support that a
JOSEPH M LENARD:  mountain there's so many I agree with you it's just that now that we live longer has complicated all that and people think well but the first cycle
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  isn't right you can't put off having a baby and I'm not going to get into a abortion although my personal opinion is at conception is even being but that's just neither here nor there okay so and I knew that you'd like that but I'm not going to discuss abortion it that's a political issue and I don't want to get into that into that but having said all of that we're about to have a historic opportunity because my background is heavily financial and I'm going to tell you something we are at the edge of the end financially we're gonna wake up one morning very soon and you're gonna see the stock market collapse the banks collapse real estate collapse everything is going to collapse we have built not just us not just the United States the entire world is built on fiat currency yeah money printed out of thin air without value yeah our our destiny was sewn in 1971 when Richard Nixon withdrew us from the Bretton Woods agreement that's when that's when we went off the tracks president Biden lit a bigger fire under it and the reason is he used the dollar is a weapon against Russia in this Ukraine thing now I'm not gonna get into the whether we should be in Ukraine or not but I'll tell you as a Russian linguist we should not be anywhere near Ukraine having said that I mean if you understand the history there you would not be involved and I speak fluent Russian and I understand Ukrainian and I'm just telling you that was a horrible mistake but that but the worst mistake was taking the dollar away from the Russians weaponizing the dollar we made a promise in 1948 to the world that if they use the dollar is the world reserve currency we would never weaponize it and we never did we never stopped the Chinese from doing it we never stopped the Russians from using it we never stopped the Saudis but Joe Biden in his senility as far as I'm concerned and I'm an old guy I know what's senility looks like so do you that's senility has weaponized the dollar that is lit a fire under the entire world
JOSEPH M LENARD:  economy yeah all gonna come crashing down and now we got Rick's and the US the house I keep saying needs to at least begin up 10 20 year plan to get us back to standardized currency that we a plan but we have not been a word we are clouded and pivoted into bankruptcy and collapsed the only way through this is
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  the hard way that I'm sorry it's too late to stop it the hard way and the right way are exactly the same thing and we're what's gonna happen now is is we're gonna have a total economic collapse 2008 is going to seem like a party compared to what's coming the Great Depression will look like the easiest time in history compared to what's coming what's coming is the worst economic collapse in the history of the world I know that sounds hysterical I could go into the reasons why but that's not what I'm here just you can believe it or not but you're gonna wake up one morning soon and then what happens then is the radical becomes reasonable when the poop hits the fan okay so all these ideas that I'm talking about are radical in in the conventional world okay so all I'm trying to do now is build support of people who see it volunteers raise some money fresher politicians yada yada but when the collapse comes that's when the moment comes that we can fix it all but there will be evil people out there there will be demagogues there will be people who will try to use the exact same crisis to do evil things so we have to have a track to run on a structure a program a plan not propaganda not you know we have to love you we got it stopped that but today the 1964 plan couldn't possibly be made law but when the crash comes and it's not an if it's a it's it's a win it's either gonna I personally don't believe we'll get to the next election without the collapse I think it's some time it's some time before I actually would not be surprised to see it happen before the end of this year it will certainly happen early next year and when it does suddenly this is gonna seem like the smartest thing anybody's ever heard because we're gonna be like what do we do now the number you cannot build a solid structure on a foundation of sand okay well actually you can I built on sand in Mexico that's that's a bad analogy but actually sand is one of the best things to build on because it really doesn't settle like regular but anyway that's another story that's my defending that but the point is you have to have a strong foundation on your house you can't have a house without a foundation and what I'm talking about the restoration of the traditional family is the foundation of our entire culture period end of story whether you're Christian whether you're Jewish was your whether you're Muslim whether you were here in atheist and that's why I built in the four pillars of stoicism because people have to have a philosophy to cling on to and if they're not I think a lot of people will come back to church when this when this happens but for those that don't we have to have a guiding philosophy not just you got to be better justice wisdom moderation and courage can object to be out we are
JOSEPH M LENARD:  way way I know I know I know okay I'm gonna just say one thing about Ukraine what you said from a historical basis I understand however the fact in reality is whether people like it or not Bill Clinton made the deal with Ukraine you give up your nukes regardless of whether you're part of it doesn't matter it
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  doesn't matter no one's protecting look the military industrial complex in this country that Eisenhower warned about is real yeah we have been in a state of war since basically since the end of the second world war we have fought a consistent series of small wars running up our thirty two trillion dollar deficit along with what the welfare state costs and let me tell you something that party has to come to an end we had an historic chance in 1990 when the Soviet Union fell and we couldn't take yes for an answer Russia is an historic ally of the United States people don't understand that prior to the communist revolution Russia was our ally since the founding Zar Alexander the first was this was a supporter of the American Revolution believe it or not Russia helped the early Americans Russia is not our natural enemy we had a chance to make friends with them and we couldn't take yes for an answer yeah NATO should have been dissolved right there there was no reason for it we should have embraced the Russians and nothing like this would have happened yeah the Russian
JOSEPH M LENARD:  people are not our enemy the current Russian leaders are and with that we're going to let another day another day let people know where to find all the
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  words to the information 19 stop the okay not you got to spell it out the 1964 plan org go there you'll find all of the background I know I talk too much but you'll enjoy the white papers they don't go on for 800 pages they go on for like six okay so don't so don't worry I'm not telling you to go read a novel then if you feel motivated if you the most important thing you can do is volunteer and there's a way to do that on the website and also yes we'd like you to donate all donations are tax deductible it's up to you I'm not going to make a big deal out of it please do but remember I'm not involved with the money just to be very clear and that's it that's all I have to add yeah let's do it yeah I don't
JOSEPH M LENARD:  like the begging part either but I have to close with the yes please like and share the only way the show grows is if you like and share and yes please help keep the show on the air please subscribe I hate to do that I don't want to do that I am annoyed and all the damn YouTube videos please like share and subscribe but yes this one time that's the algorithm we live in a world of
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  algorithms and that the last point I'd make is if we don't restore the nuclear family with the way technology is going so fast without a foundation it's been just destroy us yeah AI will destroy us without a foundation of values thank you
JOSEPH M LENARD:  her BK not of K jewelers we're coming on appreciate having you take care God
HERBERT "HERBIE" KAY:  bless brother Joe thanks for having me it's been nothing but a pleasure and thank you to everybody watching have a beautiful day God bless America 



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S1E20 SHOW NOTES  ( listen (Sat Nov 04 2023 and thereafter) at: http://buzzsprout.com/2210487 )...
ChristiTutionalist Politics (S1E20) "Victimhood - not surprising when one looks for it, they find it"
Topic TheLibertyBeacon.com "Victimhood - not surprising when one looks for it, they find it" piece! And as I always say, the CTP show is meant as companion to the TLB piece that corresponds with this episode. So, whole lot more on "VICTIMHOOD" in the TLB piece, as I had the great honor to discuss Crime and Punishment with Herbert Kay (The1964Plan.org founder) that went longer than expected and wanted therefore to keep every second of that discussion so "cut short" Segment 1 my vocalization part of the Victimhood topic.


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- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/crime-criminals-the-lefts-strained-lacking-credulity/  
- https://The1964Plan.org  

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TRANSCRIPT BONUS - Crime, Criminals, and left’s strained/lacking Credulity.  


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BONUS MATERIAL... [ from "Crime, Criminals, and left’s strained/lacking Credulity" - https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/crime-criminals-the-lefts-strained-lacking-credulity/ (see the original piece for related cross-reference hyper-linked items and embedded images/videos) ]



Crime, Criminals, and left’s strained/lacking Credulity.

Like the old GEICO Ad (and was the basis for another article of mine) proclaimed: “That’s not how that works! That’s not how any of this works!” The Woman proclaims to the other elderly lady about her putting photographs on her Living-room wall. When you refuse to punish Criminals, no matter how sternly you “wag your finger” and keep repeating “C’mon man, we know you can do better” going soft of Crime encourages more Crime. Failing to punish Criminals, they then know they can escalate to more frequent Criminal acts and even potentially more severe Crimes that put more and more U. S. Citizens at risk. So for the sake of the STUPID, time to revisit: “Should Be “DUH, NOW I GET IT” Moment, But Won’t Be For The Left…”
Eric Adams is a JOKE!!! He claimed again "I was Elected because of my focus on Public Safety!" 
Hilarious --- As the sayings go...
"All hat, no cattle"
"You shall know them by their Fruits"
Not their empty rhetoric and platitudes.
Walmart is closing down the remainder of its Portland Oregon stores (while parts of Oregon try to become part of Idaho (as discussed in my “Latest WOKEism” TLB piece)). BIDENflation? Well, yes, that too; prices are soaring, people are cutting corners, profits down; but in this particular case due to yet another WOKEtard enclave, weak on Crime, passing Laws literally allowing up to several hundreds of dollars in Shoplifting and declared no/zero consequences! I in no-way care or are concerned about the idiots in Portland that Voted for the Stupid in charge of their City that refuses to reverse course with endless clear evidence of the “cause (their stupidity, bad WOKE policy) and effect” and their ever-growing Shopping-desert (as Walgreens, CVS, others, too announce plans to withdraw from Shoplifting/Crime riddled DUMBocrats areas). However, I have great lament and concern for those losing their Jobs/Livelihoods (though, sadly, most of them likely Voted for those beyond stupid (what did you expect) policies putting them out of Work) ever extending the Poverty of the failed Lib-policy zones.
These issues are not the exception, but the rule in WOKEist Left-land. Crime continues to run amuck unchecked in Blue cities/counties – not just Blue States (but too Blue enclaves controlled by Idiotocrats even in Red States). Lori Lightfoot may have been fired by Chicago Voters, but they'll be putting in a poser (like Adams in NYC) into Office (most likely, the real public safety Candidate Republican has zero chance) next.

 
[image source: Gary Varvel]

Even some DUMBocrats have had enough, like kicking Lori Lightfoot to the curb. Lori becomes the first Mayor of Chicago (virtually any City, regardless of Party affiliation) to not be re-elected to a second-term. Some even going so far as to engaging in Recall efforts for/against WOKE weak-on-criminals DA’s, Prosecutors, and even Mayors/Governors. However, as we see in Chicago, they may remove one Idiotocrat only to (that definition of insanity again) going to Vote in just another Idiotocrat; just one that lies better – Leftist loons refusing to learn the obvious “You shall know them by their Fruits” and all their empty-rhetoric and platitudes they spew are meaningless; they have Records, but they refuse to hold them accountable for them and even worse promote their incompetence to the next Governmental level to screw up even worse.

 
[image source: PRIMO Magazine]

Just paying lip service to a problem, while still engaging all the Leftwing loon WOKE policies that just keep returning Criminals to the Streets isn’t cutting it!! If/when, and don't hold your breath, #BrokenWindowsPolicy is fully re-implemented, then you can get "some Credit" you're trying to claim.
Here is the obvious time to impart the old adage: “Doing the same things over and over, and expecting different results – the very definition of insanity!” No, seriously. I know people oft repeat it, but DUMBocrats never, ever, learn from it. I also have an adage I created, obviously based on the old ‘Lead a Horse to Water’ phrase; pardon the pun often beaten dead-horse: “You can lead a Liberal to the Facts, but you cannot make them Think!”
 
[image source: MemeCrunch]

 
Like we did a few weeks ago: Let’s just briefly again examine the how and why “Broken Windows Policing Policy” works every time and every place it is implemented, versus the converse DUMBocrats’ “let the Criminals claim victimhood and let them right back out onto the Streets” stupidity.

1) if you can intercede in petty crimes and indeed reform someone that might be able to be reformed they do not escalate to higher, worse, levels/types of crimes!!! This is simple-stupid common-sense, yet people are so devoid of any ability to engage in logic, reason, historically demonstrated, facts – focusing on skin-tones rather than actions of “the individuals” (not which “collective Identity Politics” group to which the Left uses to divide-and-conquer) in MLK “content of character” individualism we should be focused on – not “Equity” of stats/numbers for those unwilling to be part of Civil-society. Consequences be damned, says the Left, they are more concerned about superficial “optics” than holding bad people accountable.

 
2) in the other sense "Criminals usually don't just commit only one crime or one level/degree of Criminal actions" ... Arresting Criminals for lower-offenses leads to keeping them off the streets committing the other crimes, and to give us time; with the limited resources for investigation; being able to amass the evidence to convict them for other Crimes they committed that we just yet hadn't been able to pin on them yet --- and along those lines, once you finger-print (and now DNA) them for the lessor-crimes if they are not in the system yet, evidence left at others Crimes lead to these folks being then able to be caught and charged with the other unsolved (of yet) crimes they had committed.

Sadly, though, any and all of this common-sense is lost of Libtard Snowflakes that care more about coddling Criminals and pretending they are victims than the damage and deaths caused to actual Crime victims!


VIDEO (2m 09s): NYC “FEIGNS” return to “Broken Windows Policing”:
https://youtu.be/y_VQ5rdPQuY 
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VIDEO (2m 35s): Many Democrats still deny effects of their “soft on crime” policies:
https://youtu.be/EGLUTmPpC_A 
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Joseph M Lenard was a former writer for Super Simple Computer Enterprises, REDSTATE, Grassfire, and Rattle With Us – MI TEAParty (where he was Writing Committee Chair), others; and current content provider at Before It’s News and now The Liberty Beacon; as well as being Author of: “Terror Strikes: Coming soon to a City near you” ( http://JosephMLenard.us )!
Terror Strikes video Trailer: https://youtu.be/Z0MDtGeia_A  



[ above ADDITIONAL BONUS MATERIAL from "Crime, Criminals, and left’s strained/lacking Credulity" - https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/crime-criminals-the-lefts-strained-lacking-credulity/  (see the original piece for related cross-reference hyper-linked items and embedded images/videos) ]