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ChristiTutionalist Politics (S2EFebSpecial1) Bob Moog / University Games - #AmITheAss?       
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Sadly, given opportunity and means many (most?) happy to be part of, and demonstrate, their part of the #MASSholes Class. Now, the literal review I gave (on/via/at Amazon) for the #AmITheAss game...
"Smart-Ass" and "AM I THE ASS" are absolute great games and as Host of ChristiTutionalist Podcast I cannot wait and will be having Interview with the Creator of these great Games that will air/drop Wed. Feb. 5th 2025 - I LOVE THESE GAMES SO MUCH rushing discussion with Bob Moog (Creator) to air in hopes peeps will understand that I will be providing suggestion beyond the 2-5 Players and that you ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY to play as Couples/Teams this Valentine's Day 2025 Eve as part of your Valentine's Day activities! 2-3 Couples, to play as Teams, see how well you not only know American Society as a whole (in the Survey responses) but how well you know your Mate as you argue privately what your COUPLE response should be for "AM I THE ASS" and indeed see how well you are at gauging responses of what I coined ages ago the #MASSholes! LOL 
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ChristiTutionalist Politics (S2EFebSpecial1) Bob Moog / University Games - #AmITheAss?       
See buzzsprout Transcript for fuller/extended Show Notes (inc. related links) and Transcript Bonus 
Sadly, given opportunity and means many (most?) happy to be part of, and demonstrate, their part of the #MASSholes Class. Now, the literal review I gave (on/via/at Amazon) for the #AmITheAss game...
"Smart-Ass" and "AM I THE ASS" are absolute great games and as Host of ChristiTutionalist Podcast I cannot wait and will be having Interview with the Creator of these great Games that will air/drop Wed. Feb. 5th 2025 - I LOVE THESE GAMES SO MUCH rushing discussion with Bob Moog (Creator) to air in hopes peeps will understand that I will be providing suggestion beyond the 2-5 Players and that you ORDER YOUR COPY TODAY to play as Couples/Teams this Valentine's Day 2025 Eve as part of your Valentine's Day activities! 2-3 Couples, to play as Teams, see how well you not only know American Society as a whole (in the Survey responses) but how well you know your Mate as you argue privately what your COUPLE response should be for "AM I THE ASS" and indeed see how well you are at gauging responses of what I coined ages ago the #MASSholes! LOL 
#UniversityGames #SmartAss #AmITheAss #MASSholes #RegionalMoralityMayVary 
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- CTP S2EFebSpecial1 write-up (B4IN): https://beforeitsnews.com/fun-news/2025/02/am-i-the-ass-game-in-time-for-valentines-day-game-play-deepcastpro-summarization-2450099.html    
- CTP S2EFebSpecial1 write-up (SUBSTACK):  https://open.substack.com/pub/jlenarddetroit/p/am-i-the-ass-game-in-time-for-valentines      
- as mentioned in this episode Robert "the boogie man" boog episode: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2210487/episodes/16099293-christitutionalist-politics-s2enovspecial2-shakespeare-genius-or-fraud   
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- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/lets-go-to-the-lobby-get-ourselves-some-snacks-politics/  
- https://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2024/12/does-the-bible-speak-to-a-flat-earth-as-some-would-contend-2624599.html  
- https://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2024/12/does-the-bible-speak-to-a-flat-earth-as-some-would-contend-2624599.html   
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Welcome to ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast aka CTP in association with TheLibertyBeacon.com and I am your host Joseph M Lenard and that's L E N A R D   CTP is your no muss no fuss just me you And occasional guest type podcast as Graham Norton would say let's get on with the show 

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JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):   Hello everybody, welcome to another episode of the Little Night. I can't talk. Episode. I can't wait to see how the AI transcription service bumbles with that verbiage. Another episode of Constitutionist Politics. Joining me today is Bob Moog, not to be confused with, if you remember, a few months ago. Robert, the boogeyman, boog, who we talked about controversies about Shakespeare all these centuries later, not Robert, B-O-O-G, Bob, B-O-B-M-O-O-G, and he is one of the most recognizable people in the toy and game industry. He is the founder of University Games, the largest independent game and puzzle company in the US. Top products from the company include Smartass Game, Murder Mystery Party Games, Children Games, featuring Dogman, Pete the Cat, Eric Carl, and Richard Scary. But I mainly have them here today to discuss this. For those of you looking at behind the scenes, you can see me holding up the box of the game called Am I the Ass, the game, and I will hold really close to the camera and move my finger so you could maybe get the QR code to see their video about the game. But before I ask Bob anything and ask him to go into the game, I'm not sure if we need an NC-17 on this episode, but it definitely needs at least a PG-13, so get the kids out of the room for this one. It's gonna be an interesting ride as we just got this. Am I the Ass, the game as I am holding up. Also, by way of a joke, I've seen Bob's picture before today, so behind the scenes you could see both of our heads, which is why I'm wearing for the benefit of the audio-only shows, and the transcript, my shirt, with a body like this who needs hair. Welcome to this show Bob, how are you?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Bet you weren't expecting an intro like that, huh? I've never had an intro saying,
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  let's brag about our baldness. But I love it, Joseph. I like to try to keep a sense of humor, right? Things are so serious, we need to keep a sense of humor. So, while this is a very serious Christian show most of the time, we've got to keep a sense of humor. And now with that warning out of the way, I want to hold it up again, because I coined the term several years ago, Massholes for the masses of asses out there. So, hashtag Massholes for this episode. And indeed, are you one of the masses of asses out there? We're going to delve into that today. And I am rushing this show to air February 5th, because I want you to go to Amazon and pick up this game for Valentine's night. While the game says from two to five players, I suggest you get together as couples and play as couples, two to five couples, Valentine's night. Now, with that set up, why don't we do the usual first thing though, first Bob? Where were you born and raised and all that right? Cue the who song. Who are you? I love that song. The who's my favorite band.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  That's great. I saw them in 1972, when they were on their quadrifiniatur at the arena in St.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Louis, Missouri, where I grew up. Interesting. So, you're from the state of Missouri. I mean,
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Missouri. I'm from the state of Missouri. And I am a fourth generation Missourian and went to public school there at Clayton High School. And I was a Greyhound, the Clayton Grahams. And I then moved for college out to California and have been living here ever since.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  But my roots are in Missouri and in the Midwest. Well, then the obvious next question before we get into the game has got to be, how far are you from the fires?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  I am 320 miles from the fires. So, I'm in good shape. I'm in San Francisco. My house is safe. My family is safe. I do have friends in Los Angeles and it's nasty down there. But, you know, every part of the country gets something. There's hurricanes, there's tornadoes. Everybody gets something. So, this is a tragedy and it's really sad. It's far from me. But, you know, they will rebuild once this all gets done, just like they do in Florida when they have the hurricanes.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  It's okay. Without further ado, tell us the premise of am I the ass TM the game?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Okay. So, when you invent board games, there's different categories. And we're really, really known for doing preschool games and party games. And we've done many party games over the years, including games like Smartass and games like worst case scenario for survival. And we were the originators of murder mystery parties. But about a year and a half ago, someone in our company said, did you have you seen this trend online of people posting situations where they may have behaved badly and asking the question, am I the ass or am I the asshole? And then having other people who they don't know, just crowdsource responses and create a dialogue. And I said, no, I've never seen that. Let me look into it. And we found out that on Reddit and on Facebook, there's millions of people. The numbers are close to 30 million people who participate in writing and reading these situations and giving their, you know, their desktop psychiatrist, you know, responses to whether someone is or isn't an asshole. And we thought, what if we could make this a take at home version? And so we decided to figure out a way to do it so that everybody in the country with the computer without could play the game.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, there's the tokens behind the scenes that you win. If you get an answer, right. I don't want to go into a bunch of questions, but I did look at the first one. So I will mention that. But before we do that, my audience knows I can never pass on the lame puns. So to go along with nastles, the hashtag, here's something else you can use too. A couple things. One, you know, the saying, your mileage may vary. Well, since we're kind of dealing with morality here, I coined for your game. Regional morality may vary. That's good. No, I think that's great, Joseph. Yeah, because
BOB MOOG (University Games):  there can be a question here where somebody from New York would say, not only is this appropriate for a 12 year old, I want my 12 year old to know about condoms. And then someone in a different part of the country might say, that's totally inappropriate. Especially the Bible, bells. Right,
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  especially with this show, obviously. So yeah, that's why I also suggest maybe you do regional versions of the game. Am I the asked the Bible about am I the asked Midwest or Western states or liberals or conservatives? That way, you know that the survey questions are from what group? Yeah, so you can, because the point is you are to guess what indeed the average person out there says, kind of like family feud, right? Yes, they says, right, you're very exactly right. The way the game
BOB MOOG (University Games):  plays, it's important for people to know how the game plays. The way the game plays is each player gets an asometer. And the asometer is a is a is an arrow on a card. Yeah, you're holding it out. And you choose whether 25%, 50%, 75%, or 100% of the people who we surveyed, like family feud, said that this person was a asshole. And the way you win the game is by correctly guessing what our survey said was the right answer, not what you think is the right answer. And our survey was a national survey with people, urban and rural, conservative and liberal, old and young, men and women. It's a cross section of 500 Americans. And so it could fall anywhere. Right. So it could fall anywhere. So there are some where I've done the cards and we read them. And the person is a 25 year old woman. And she has the opposite answer of a 45 year old man. They just see the world through different eyes. So it invites great conversation. And the conversation is really what makes this a incredibly great game. Am I not about being right or wrong? It's about having the conversation
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  afterwards. Right. And it's why I suggest people rush to Amazon, buy a copy and play as two to five couples on Valentine's evening. You're going to have trouble giving in somewhere to eat anyway. Spend 2499 instead for am I the as the game, order a pizza, and you'll get a hell lot more fun. And you'll learn more about your potential spouse than perhaps you ever really wanted to know or thought you might know in the process as to why I suggest yeah, two or four, two, three, four couples get together for this. That's why I'm rushing this episode out before Valentine's day.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Joseph, I'd love to read you one that proves the point you just made. I want to read you read
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  yours for the top one. Now, see the the meters at the bottom. I don't want to give away the answer. You're supposed to take out the card and put it in the M.I.V.S. the game holder so that it sits on the table and everybody can read it back after the initial person reads it. I don't want to read this whole thing. I just want to say because I was at Frank's pizza the other day. Hey, buttons talking to her about the game and her and her boyfriend and the just so happens the first card deals with E.L.O.B.N. and her and her boyfriend are like, whoa, we got to play this game. I'm giving a copy to her next weekend when I see her at Frank's pizza. Well, button will be excited to get there. Yeah, buttons. That's why I we call her buttons because you know, like TGI Fridays, they wear all the different buttons. So she's the only one there that wears a bunch of different buttons and we donated her a couple of different buttons. So I just call her buttons. That's great. And anyway, but yeah, I mean, the E.L.O.B. question to me is perfect in this. Well, that answer might be way different in Vegas. Right. Then it would be Michigan or Tennessee or Georgia.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  So how do you be here? Behavior that makes you an ass in Georgia may not make you an ass in Las Vegas. It might be okay in Las Vegas. Would you like me to read one and you can and you can guess what our survey said? Is that okay? Do you feel like doing that? Sure. If you want to do that, I don't want to give away a bunch of the cards. Oh, no, no. So it gives people a sense of it. And this is one where men and women might answer very differently. Am I the ass for wanting to look at my husband's computer and browsing history? My husband, 39 year old male, has started staying up late, claiming he's doing work on his computer instead of coming to bed with me. When I tried to log in yesterday, I found he changed the password without telling me. My friend who works in IT offered to install spyware to capture his keystrokes and get the new password. I know it's deceitful, but something feels off. So am I the asshole? Am I the ass for wanting to look at my husband's computer and browsing history? What do you think the people said? Do you think 25%, 50%, 75% or 100%
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  said you are a former IT guy? And as someone who is well, still wearing my writing went, what, boom, boom, I can't still can't talk. I still wearing my wedding ring, but a deforse issues really because of health and all that, but still love my ex wife to death. We just could never live under the same roof together anymore. You've got to be honest with each other or your foundation of your marriage is shit. So I would say that's a low end. No, why is he keeping secrets?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Right. So the survey said you have to trust the husband. And so 100% said if she was to put spyware on his computer, that would be she would be an ass for doing that because she has to trust him. If you don't trust him, then you don't have a relationship. So it's sort of the same thing
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  you were saying, but they came out with a different solution. Yeah, I could see that answer that other end because now he's being deceitful. She rather than confronting him to have an conversation is being an ass accorded. I also be a sea for yes, it doesn't mean that he's not
BOB MOOG (University Games):  an ass when you play this game. Sometimes both people are, but you're just you're just we're just asking the survey group to pick the person, you know, who's the in the first person on this.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I absolutely love this game. Let me give you one more. We won't we won't do the whole box.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  There's 200 in the game. Let me let me give you this next one just because it shows the breadth
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  of the kinds of material that yeah, and people who are viewing the show or listening now have a cheat. They're kind of an ass because they're cheating. They know the answer. That's why I didn't want to go into the. We're only going to do a couple. Let's do the question, but let's not
BOB MOOG (University Games):  give the answer. Okay. Am I am I the ass for asking to split the bill after deciding that I was no longer interested on a date? I asked to grow out on a date and we had a good time, but as the night went on, I decided I wasn't interested in pursuing anything further. She ordered several drinks, which I didn't mind at first. By the end of the night, I felt it was a bit much. When the bill came, I asked to split it with her. She looked surprised and didn't offer to pay her half, which made me wonder if I was being rude. So we won't say the answer, but is this person an ass for a male going out with a woman? Is he an ass for asking her to split the bill? These
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  without getting into my answer. These are absolute societal norm situations now. People are needing to deal with. And it's great for like maybe there should also be an am I ass older folks version, right? But I could see all kinds of different sub versions of this. And indeed, those discussions over people to then understand the younger generation and the younger generation understanding the actual morals that used to exist and seem to have completely gone out with the baby and the bathwater out the window these days. I mean, I have said this
BOB MOOG (University Games):  mockingly or jokingly, but maybe there's some truth to it that if the whole country would spend less time dealing with all the conflicts that everyone has and all the emotion and just play am I the ass, we would have a much happier, better adjusted country because people would be able to talk through their differences without taking it personally. They would be able to talk about it in terms of the survey group and certain instead of what they think. And so maybe that's what will happen. We'll start getting am I the S versions into Congress was getting it into churches and temples will start getting it into schools. And everybody uses a conversation piece.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Perstitutials politics, I absolutely positively got to see a morality version for the morons on Capitol Hill. They're definitely they are definitely asses congressional version. Right. Completely rename it. Not even a question. They are a bunch of asses. But to back up, I'm in only 2499 at Amazon, right? Probably. Do you sell it direct at university games.com?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  No, we have another website that's a sister company called rugame.com. A R E Y O U G A M E dot com R U game. And they sell all of the university games products, including am I the S. And it's really easy to get to. They also they also will ship same day.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, they order it again. I'm dropping this on the fifth. You can have it by the six. And the other time for Valentine's Day, plenty of time. Yeah. And the other thing too, I had forgotten the other joke I was going to add. And and also you can exactly see why I immediately came up with regional morality may vary. I expect to see that on a future box for a charge. My gift to you. As well as if you want to use my hashtag massholes. But the other joke I was going to say you do you remember Sir Mix a lot? Sure. Sure. I like big. He's got to be your spokesperson and do a parody of I like major asses and I cannot lie right. I just see the commercial now.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  That's funny. Sir Mikko. I had forgotten all about him.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. So we had a who mentioned Anna Sir Mix a lot. I should. Like I said, I never script my shows. Never know what rabbit hole is going to open up. You mentioned you like the who saw since we're talking music. Who else are some of your favorite artists?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Well, the who has always been my favorite band. But I'm a big big springsteen fan, which most people are. I really like Van Morrison. Who's working with Elvis at the local Burger King here in Kalamazoo. Well, Gordon just saw me still. I think so. I'm I mean, I like a lot of bands. I liked the cars when they were active. I listened to a lot of Rolling Stones. I'm a Billy Joel fan. I kind of like, you know, old rock and roll is what I like. And that's what I listen to. Okay. I want to see the Dylan movie. Did you have you seen the Dylan movie? No, I am not a Dylan
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  fan. I have absolutely zero. I am a big movie buff. So I see movies all the time. And of course, for Christitucious politics podcast, I had to see the piece of crap. Conclave movie. And it is exactly what I was expecting. A complete attack on Christianity, mainly the Catholic Church. But, you know, Dan Brown movies and books, I had no problem with because he actually brought people to Christ and the Bible. You know, what of this is fact and what of it is fiction? He actually brought people to Christ. And Hanclay, in my opinion, I give it a D minus is all about attacking Christianity again. And one of the reasons why I felt called to create this show, obviously, to defend the whole Bible in full context, not the twists and distortions. But so, hey, we covered music and movies too. A couple of my favorite topics that again, you know, probably not going to get this on any other show that talks to you. Right? I don't think so. Not any others that I've
BOB MOOG (University Games):  ever that I've ever done. I went to a concert in Hyde Park in London, which was, I think, the best concert I ever saw. It was Neil Young. And go on another one. I'm not a fan of. Well, two hours in, he's playing the Beatles song. And end of your life or whatever. And Paul McCartney walks out in stage and plays with him. And that was pretty cool. Day in the life. Day in the life. Yeah, sorry.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. I do like the Beatles. I did like the Beatles. My parents, my dad, Ted Loner Jr. founder of Ted Loner Jr. and the polka kens. So, growing up, music of family. Yeah. Country, polka pop rock, heavy metal. I'm into everything because of my father, you know, in his musical nature. So, yeah. And I pride myself in having a very different kind of show. So, people learning about you more, more maybe than you'd even like, right?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  It's fine. I'm an open book. So, as long as they play games and enjoy what we're doing.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Oh, no, no, you're not an open book. You're you're all well laid out game board.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  That's good, desert. Boom, boom.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And anyway, so like I said in the email, I usually do 30 minute shows. I think we'll probably go closer to a full hour here. I mean, what? Let's talk about smart ass. Okay. Some of the other games. I know you you brought props. So, let's show a few of those and talk about those.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Well, smart ass. This is what the box looks like. This is available at Target and on Amazon and a lot of other places. It's a game that we started. It's 2025. Now, we started 15 years ago. And the idea of the game was, what if you had a game where every player knew the answer to every question? But the trick was to see who could get to the question first. And so, I thought about this for a couple of years. I said, trivial pursuits, great. But a lot of people are intimidated by it. And also, there's always that one guy who's the smart at who knows all the answers. And that makes it not fun for other people. So, how about if we could come up with a game where people, it was more about how fast you could come up with the answer than knowing the answer. And we created this game called smart ass. And the way it works is there are eight clues describing a well-known person, place or thing. And everybody playing will know the answer. You will have heard of Elvis Presley or you will have heard of Chicago or Kalamazoo. But the trick is based on the clues, who can yell it out first? And what we found is we have this fantastic game that's really accessible to people of all ages and all backgrounds because we've made the answers so universal. And so, I'm going to give you one right now. Okay, well, before we do that, I can't resist.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yes. Here's my question. Because again, another, I love this promise. But my question is gotta be, why are you so weird to come up with these things? Okay, that's a good question. So,
BOB MOOG (University Games):  I will tell you, I grew up in St. Louis, Missouri, as we talked about earlier. I'm the oldest of five kids. And growing up, my parents both worked. They were gone a lot. So, I needed to find ways to entertain the little kids. And what I did is I would come up with card games and different kinds of games that a five year old could play, a six year old could play, a nine year old could play,
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  and a 11 year old could play. Not bore the crap of the 11 year old at the same time. Yeah. Right.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  And what I learned is that a good game has a mixture of luck and skill. If it's all skill, the older child will always win. If it's all luck, the older child doesn't care. So, I learned that as a kid, like when I was, you know, 10 to 15 years old. And then, when I went to college, I started a thing, a trivia bowl, where I wrote and collected thousands of questions. And it was like the old college bowl quiz that used to be on when I was a kid. And basically, there would be two teams of four and I moderated and I would ask questions. And I went to school at Stanford. And this was like the only activity that the students and the faculty and the staff all participated in that was fun. You know, everything else was academic, or drinking, or something else. And so I did it and I found that people loved it and we were able to fill out a Torium's. And that's how I got so weird is starting when I was 10, 11 years old and betting games. I just have it's in my, it's in my jeans now, you know,
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  okay, now you were going to get an example from the smart ass game. Most go ahead.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  So the smart ass game, the way it would normally play is we would have a group of four to six people. And I would say I am a person, I could be living or dead, real or fictional, male or female. And I also could be a group like the Beatles would be under people person. Okay. So here we go. And you just yell out the answer when you think you know it. You only get one guess, but you can yell it after one clue or after all eight clues. I am best known as a singer. I became famous for knowing my ABCs. My Michael Jackson Michael Jackson. You got
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  after two clues. That's fantastic. Go ahead and give the verse to the clues now that I spoiled it.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  You get easier as you go. My pop group got it started in Motown. I have five brothers in the oldest is Jermaine. My nickname was the King of Pop. I was known for moonwalking. I created a
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  thriller in 1982. Who am I with the initials MJ? Yeah. Now obviously you couldn't have picked a better set up question to make me look good because of course I'm in Detroit. Right. Motown.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  So you're going to know that one. All right. You want to try one more? This one is a what?
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  What am I? Oh yeah. Let's show me. Choose one that'll make me look stupid.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Okay. Hopefully this will make you look stupid Joseph. But if it doesn't, I apologize. What am I? There are I'm a thing. There are infinite ways I can be put together. Some say I was invented by British royalty. You might bring me to school. A rocker set? No. I am often around at lunchtime.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  You need bread to have me. Oh, a sandwich. Okay. Oh, very good. Yeah. No, I got over eager, over-action indeed. I made an ass of myself. Right?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  It's a smart ass. Yeah. So we have where am I? What am I and who am I? And when you play the game, there's a game board that comes with the game. And the goal is to be the person who is the smart ass by winning the game. And you get to move forward based on the role of a die.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  When you answer correctly. Oh, okay. So it's not not tokens like the
BOB MOOG (University Games):  am I the smart ass? Am I the ass? Okay. There's an smart ass. And smart ass is sold all over the place. It's in Target. It's in Meyer stores. You're in Michigan. It would be in Meyer. It would be on Amazon. It's at r u game.com, which is our sister company. It's at Barnes and Noble. You can go pretty much anywhere and get smart ass because it's been out for a long time. And it's kind of a perennial now. We sell over 300,000 copies a year of smart ass. It's a it's a bestseller. Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And I don't remember now, but there used to be a computer game called You Don't Know Jack. Yes. I remember that. For some reason, that's kind of making a connection with me here. And being an IT guy, you know, I love games on the computers as opposed to necessarily the board itself or whatever. Because like I took the Scatagories game. Do you remember that? Absolutely. You had the diet only had what five or six constants on it. I computerized it and added this shit of constant so you could play that game a whole lot longer because otherwise you run out of words.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Right. Absolutely. I understand that's exactly right. And the reason computer games are great and there's nothing wrong with them and they sell great, what we're trying to do at university games is create social interactive experiences where people are talking to each other and getting to know each other better. So they're both really great. But we're trying to do something that's
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  more interpersonal with our business, which is perfect. As discussed on this show, you know, right? Hold up the phone, kid in the phone, only on the phone. How about you actually engage with real bleeping people for a change? Right. One of the biggest, one of the biggest things that
BOB MOOG (University Games):  we talk about at university games is having people talk to each other versus emailing and texting. And it's amazing in a business with we have, I think, 20 people, 15 people here in San Francisco. People will be sitting within 10 yards of each other and instead of getting up and talking to each other, they'll text each other. And I say to them, go talk to each other. I tell up that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I tell you guys, so yeah, I get an email, I'd walk over to the cubicle. How about we actually have
BOB MOOG (University Games):  a discussion? Right. Exactly. Exactly. And as with Gen Z and now alpha, they're growing up as digital natives, they're growing up with they think about a computer the way I think about a comb or I used to when I had hair. And I would always carry a comb in my pocket. Yeah. And that's how they are. It's just part of them. And that means that they're spending more waking hours not interacting with people, but just interacting with a machine than any prior generation. So we're trying to counter that a little bit by making it so fun and so different than texting that people will want to
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  do it. Yeah. Now, obviously, certain things should be put in any email. So there's a record of it. But yeah, the art of conversation is lost the art of language lost because I gave the hashtag earlier, right? Mass holes were inventing words were shortening words. Yolo were abbreviating everything. And half the time on another part of the segment of society is like, what the bleep is that name?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  There's so many acronyms being used that they've lost their definition. And you someone said to me the other day, yeah, I'll ping you on that. Well, what the you know is an IT guy, the derivation of ping goes back to a univac machine sending out a message to another computer to receive it so that they could connect with each other. And now people use it for phone, I guess phone calls or emails. I don't even know what I actually don't know what they meant when they were going to ping me in terms
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  of how they were going to communicate with me. One of the first main frames I worked on, operated was a univac 6040. You literally had the hard drives that would screw in and out. The card reader with all the cards get one card on the place. Well, are you bleep?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  And you would do you would ping other computers with that, wouldn't you? That's where the pen
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  comes? Yep, absolutely. Yeah, no, it did not come from the you know what actually it might have been now that I think about it derived from ping palm because you get a pink right pinging each other to make sure you're visible to one another to make sure you get that connection. And of course, the old days I'm reaching over to grab my landline phone that I still have. You know, the old days were my desktop computer with the built-in modem would connect to the phone line and dial up your computer so that you could get the squawk sound and actually talk computer to computer. Well, we're way off the
BOB MOOG (University Games):  beaten path here now. Well, the point is since the world has gone that way, we feel it's more important for us to create good games and also have people ask themselves the question, am I the
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  ass back to where we started? Yeah, all right, let's do you've got another prop with you? I take
BOB MOOG (University Games):  at another game. Could you hold up? Yeah, I've got another one around here somewhere just a second. I've got I have a kid's game. I think well, no, I'm gonna do it in a dope game. I'm not gonna do it.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  This is called Judge Your Friends. Oh, I love it already. And it actually had Matthew 7, Judge Not Less Db Day Judge, which there are more than those seven words removed the law from your own. I, 12 other scriptures at least, that tell you you are two judge people, just that final judgment is for the Lord. It's really condemned not less Db can dumb, condemned. So a Christian show? I absolutely love that game already. And you've not even said anything about it yet.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Well, Judge Your Friends is a game where one player is the judge and actually gets a gavel. There's a gavel in the game. And every player playing gets guilty and not guilty cards. And the way you play the game is you you are asked a question about something you may or may not have done in your life. And you have to say, I did it or I didn't do it. And then the other
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  players judge whether you think you're being truthful. Oh, wow, that could get some people in a lot of
BOB MOOG (University Games):  trouble. Right. So here's an example of one. The defendant, we do it all in the legal terms, has gotten drunk with their parents. And so it depends on what age you're playing with. If you're playing with a 12 or 30 someone under 21, it's a little bit of a different thing. And you have to say whether you're guilty or not guilty. And then the judge with the with any player can take the gavel and say, I disagree. And then you have to fess up if you're lying or not. You know what,
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  this brings to mind a, a an actual board game version of kind of the never have I ever. Yes,
BOB MOOG (University Games):  it's yeah, the never have I ever is something people play. But what's different in this game is that you've got a judge who and you're in your keeping score. And when you let me second open this, when you actually do the judging, you have this, guilty, not guilty. So the player who's asked the question takes one of these and puts them face down. And then the other players vote on whether they think that they're guilty or not guilty. And then the judge says
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  whether they're telling the truth or not. Uh huh. Well, now that game has a whole other set of connotation though. If you're playing with a liar lying about lying or
BOB MOOG (University Games):  right, it becomes it can be it can become its own rabbit hole. And you can go down it. Oh, thank you. So those are those are our big three for 2025. Those three games.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  That's great. That's great. But again, really, really, I, when I learned of you and learned of MIT asked and saw the premise and thought to myself, oh my god, this is great for couples for Valentine's Day. Why I had to have you on ASAP and rushing the show out to make sure it drops Wednesday, February the 5th and the week after that will be. Oh, well, look at my calendar. Valentine's Day. Can't do the math. Seven days later would be Wednesday the 12th. There will be Valentine's episode that was actually recorded with somebody last summer. So there's going to be like both ends of the spectrum. You and I are recording and it's going to like drop a couple days later and with Iliya for Valentine's Day proper week episode.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  I recorded it last summer. So I feel really honored that you're rushing me for Valentine's Day. It certainly will help us. And I want to remind people that they can get MIT asks, judge your friends and smart ass on Amazon.com or at rugame.com. If they like, yeah, and they have plenty of time from when this is airing till Valentine's Day.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  We've timed it perfectly, Joseph. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm so glad we stumbled upon each other when we did it. You know, it's like I say, and some people might think I'm being ridiculous with us. But with a Christian show, which is if almost divine intervention on some of the guests that lined up in my lap just in time for an episode like, why was that perfect timing?
BOB MOOG (University Games):  The work you're doing is great. And the world does need this podcast. So it's great that you're
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  doing it. It's why I greatly appreciate you again. Bob, B.O.B. Moog, M.O.O.G. again, not to be confused with Robert, the boogeyman, boo, B.O.O.G. that was talking Shakespeare a couple months ago. Thank you so much for your time. I really appreciate it.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Well, thank you. And I'm happy if you want to in six months or a year to do this again. And I can
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  tell you what new games we have. Sounds good. I definitely would love the follow up episode.
BOB MOOG (University Games):  Great. Thank you very much. And I hope everyone has a wonderful Valentine's Day next week.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yes. Take care. God bless all. 



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