CTP (S2EFebSpecial5) - Feb. 2025 Health Weeks 2: Interplay of Spirituality and Physical Health

CTP S2EFebSpecial5 NOTES ( listen (Thu Feb 20 2024 and thereafter) at: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2210487/episodes/16660655-ctp-s2efebspecial5-feb-2025-health-weeks-2-interplay-of-spirituality-and-physical-health )... 
FEB. 2025 HEALTH WEEKS: end of Feb (last two weeks) Health Related CTP Show Specials... Joan Ifland on Health and RFK Jr. (S2EFebSpecial4 20250218); Jack Lafountain on "Healing Body, Mind, Soul," talk (S2EFebSpecial5 20250220);George Dubec "Mental Health, Society" (S2EFebSpecial6 20250225); DPB "Peer Pressure" Mental Health (S2EFebSpecial7 20250227); #ThoughtsAndPrayers many with Health Issues need them (S2EFebSpecial8).
[a complete aside: coming Mar S2E91 "Jo Patti appears: Native Cultures discussion + fresh from the DOGE hearings" episode you will not want to miss....
AS WELL AS: look for CTP MUSIC WEEK coming soon, almost a full week (still in works/planning/Recordings (in conjunction with MTS - Michael T Stover management and his “stable” (if you will) of Musical Talent he represents), may be M-F, may be Sun-Sat, or in-between, of Music related Guests episodes that will be a lot of Fun and break mainly from Faith and/or Politics (unless the Guest goes there) focusing on “Entertainment” fare coming March or April of 2025 (including return of Stephanie “Lady Redneck” Lee, John Vento and “Nieds Hotel Band” and their “We’re In This Together” tune (NO, not “We Are The World” like thing, Michael William (US Veteran and former Police Officer), Marcus Manderson, HeIsTheArtist]ChristiTutionalist Politics (S2EFebSpecial5) FEB 2025 HEALTH WEEKS 2: Jack Lafountain - Healing Mind, Body, Soul      
See buzzsprout Transcript for fuller/extended Show Notes (inc. related links) and Transcript Bonus 
Transcript Bonus: CTP S2EFebSpecial4 "FEB 2025 HEALTH WEEKS 1: Joan Ifland - Food Addictions and RFK Jr. as Health Secretary" transcript and "RFK Jr. as Health Secretary?" TheLibertyBeacon piece    
CTP (S2EFebSpecial5) Feb 2025 Health Weeks 2: CTP (S2EFebSpecial5) - Feb. 2025 Health Weeks 2: Interplay of Spirituality and Physical Health     
This episode explores the essential connections between body, mind, and soul in holistic health through an insightful conversation with Jack LaFountain, a retired minister and registered nurse. Jack shares his experiences in hospice care and writing, emphasizing the importance of addressing spiritual needs alongside physical ailments, while also navigating the evolving landscape of publishing and individual rights in society. 
• Discussing the importance of treating mind, body, and soul together 
• Insights from Jack's career as a hospice chaplain 
• The need for spiritual care in healthcare settings 
• Jack’s journey as an author and his published works 
• Differences between self-publishing and traditional publishing 
• Challenges and ethical concerns related to using AI in writing 
• The political landscape and the importance of community engagement  

Chapters

• 0:00 Special Guests and Health Discussions
• 16:53 Self-Publishing and Book Editing
• 29:09 State vs. Federal Power Debate

Transcript

CTP S2EFebSpecial5 44m 35s before audio editing   
CTP S2EFebSpecial5 NOTES ( listen (Thu Feb 20 2024 and thereafter) at: 
https://www.buzzsprout.com/2210487/episodes/16660655-ctp-s2efebspecial5-feb-2025-health-weeks-2-interplay-of-spirituality-and-physical-health )... 
FEB. 2025 HEALTH WEEKS: end of Feb (last two weeks) Health Related CTP Show Specials... Joan Ifland on Health and RFK Jr. (S2EFebSpecial4 20250218); Jack Lafountain on "Healing Body, Mind, Soul," talk (S2EFebSpecial5 20250220);George Dubec "Mental Health, Society" (S2EFebSpecial6 20250225); DPB "Peer Pressure" Mental Health (S2EFebSpecial7 20250227); #ThoughtsAndPrayers many with Health Issues need them (S2EFebSpecial8).
[a complete aside: coming Mar S2E91 "Jo Patti appears: Native Cultures discussion + fresh from the DOGE hearings" episode you will not want to miss....
AS WELL AS: look for CTP MUSIC WEEK coming soon, almost a full week (still in works/planning/Recordings (in conjunction with MTS - Michael T Stover management and his “stable” (if you will) of Musical Talent he represents), may be M-F, may be Sun-Sat, or in-between, of Music related Guests episodes that will be a lot of Fun and break mainly from Faith and/or Politics (unless the Guest goes there) focusing on “Entertainment” fare coming March or April of 2025 (including return of Stephanie “Lady Redneck” Lee, John Vento and “Nieds Hotel Band” and their “We’re In This Together” tune (NO, not “We Are The World” like thing, Michael William (US Veteran and former Police Officer), Marcus Manderson, HeIsTheArtist]ChristiTutionalist Politics (S2EFebSpecial5) FEB 2025 HEALTH WEEKS 2: Jack Lafountain - Healing Mind, Body, Soul               
See buzzsprout Transcript for fuller/extended Show Notes (inc. related links) and Transcript Bonus 
Transcript Bonus: CTP S2EFebSpecial4 "FEB 2025 HEALTH WEEKS 1: Joan Ifland - Food Addictions and RFK Jr. as Health Secretary" transcript and "RFK Jr. as Health Secretary?" TheLibertyBeacon piece    
CTP (S2EFebSpecial5) Feb 2025 Health Weeks 2: CTP (S2EFebSpecial5) - Feb. 2025 Health Weeks 2: Interplay of Spirituality and Physical Health     
This episode explores the essential connections between body, mind, and soul in holistic health through an insightful conversation with Jack LaFountain, a retired minister and registered nurse. Jack shares his experiences in hospice care and writing, emphasizing the importance of addressing spiritual needs alongside physical ailments, while also navigating the evolving landscape of publishing and individual rights in society. 
• Discussing the importance of treating mind, body, and soul together 
• Insights from Jack's career as a hospice chaplain 
• The need for spiritual care in healthcare settings 
• Jack’s journey as an author and his published works 
• Differences between self-publishing and traditional publishing 
• Challenges and ethical concerns related to using AI in writing 
• The political landscape and the importance of community engagement  
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- https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/rfk-jr-as-health-secretary/   
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- previous HEALTH WEEKS item 1: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2210487/episodes/16642339-ctp-s2efebspecial4-feb-2025-health-weeks-1-policy-in-shaping-healthier-food-environments  

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JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Everybody, a special end of February 2025 intro before we get into the normal intros to state that I've moved things around a bit. Now normally you know my Wednesdays are guest drops and Saturdays monologues. Everyone's a while there'll be a guest on Saturday but never a monologue on Wednesday. Well this end of February the last two weeks there are going to be two guest drops a week, seven specials total in the month of February 2025. RFK Junior was indeed officially approved by the Senate to 8HS. So I had hoped to have Joan Eiffelen on the show with her the discussion with her before he got approved and the next shows kind of sort of all apply either mental or physical health in some way all together that's why I'm kind of bringing them all together pushing them up doing a Tuesday and Thursday the next to last week of February. February 18th will be Joan Eiffelen. You could see me looking down if you're looking behind the scenes video so I can make sure I get it right on the calendar. Jack Lefonten will be on with me on the 20th healing not just the body but the mind the body and the soul so that relates in kind of this last of February all health and body and mental related together and then the following week the last week of February February 25th special number six will be George Dubac and we're talking about networking to a better society that deals with our mental state our overall mental health as a society. So I'm bringing that in earlier than it would have normally been and after that February 27 of 2025 our friend DPB is back with his new song about peer pressure which of course is mental health related so I ramble enough let's actually get to the intro ha ha ha ha ha take care God bless. Welcome to the institutionalist politics podcast aka CTP I am your host Joseph M. Leonard and that L E N A R D CTP is your no must no plus just me you and occasional death type pot really appreciate you tuning in. Graham Norton will say let's get out of the show. Hello everyone welcome to another episode of Khan Institute. I've screwed up my own show name but the term that I invented in trademark I'm screwing it up. Welcome to Christi Tushola's all the podcast joining me today and my audience knows I can never pass on the lane pun so here's the same you may not know Jack but you're gonna get to meet Jack today. Welcome to the show Jack. 
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  Oh yeah thanks actually I write a blog
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  and that's that's the title of it no Jack. Cool yes that's great I would we get to the end of the show and you're giving out where people can find you. You give out the website is the blog site different than your main site. No it's on the main. Okay all right all right and we'll get there eventually right of course your website will be in the extended show notes in the transcript that could be found at Buzzsprite Buzzsprout. Oh my my brains don't want to work but what attracted me to you was the sentence that goes I am a retired ordained minister who still teaches the scriptures so let's go there. Oh well first first we got to do the you know cue the who song as I like to joke like they use on mass singer too right. Who are you? Who? Where were you born? Where were you raised? How many years did you serve in prison and for what crime? Yeah I haven't lived there for a long long time but I
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  was born in California joined the military when I was 17 and really I the military stationed me back there for a few years but other than that I really haven't been back there. Where are you now? I now I live just outside of
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Huntsville Alabama now. Ah in the sticks of some way. Yeah out of the country yeah. You're not don't look red. No. For the benefit of the transcript we are laughing these are jokes lighten up people right. We got to keep it sent to you Maro we'll go crazy but indeed you are mastering so right yeah I kind of retired pretty much
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  what I was didn't say from active ministry I was a hospice chaplain and I lasted for a few years after that and I actually got away from that partly because of being a hospice chaplain I decided I would not only wanted to do the spiritual part but I wanted to do the part the nurses did too but I went to nursing school became a registered nurse and that kind of took over for and especially until I retired and and now I still teach you know Bible classes at
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  my local church. That's great so you can take care of body and soul. Yeah that was the idea. Yeah that's great that could use more of that right yeah oh yeah yeah that the body the mind the soul we need to treat all three at the individual all three parts not just one particular aspect right yes I mean you know because they all they all influence one another. That's right. So when did you get started
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  as a minister? I got started I was ordained in 1975 and I did that until say I started nursing school and actually was doing some ministering while I was in nursing school but I graduated from nursing school in 93 and pastored a few
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  years after that. Yeah you anticipated the next question when did you go to nursing school? Well he already covered that. I'm curious I guess do you get pushed back at any time or are you careful to try to get a feel for someone you're dealing with in the unhealthy realm as to whether they're open to the healing of the soul part or have you gotten pushed back from slum? I really
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  haven't gotten any push back from that you know as I said I started out as a hospice chaplain and that was a big focus on the spiritual party of being sick. I worked a lot of years in the emergency room and I don't know maybe I think maybe I got where I could pick up on people who might really be open to that. A lot of the clues from them that they might be open to you know not only physical healing but maybe a spiritual healing as well. Yeah a lot of people on
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  their deathbed finally get that realization. Oh oh I've been so worried about this life. Is it too late to worry about that afterlife? Yeah and you kind
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  of had to figure that out because you know most of the time we weren't actually allowed to present spiritual things so you had to you kind of had to take the clues from person that you were taken care of. Were they open to that and you know would they would they accept that you know that you praying for them or you know things like that and so yeah you kind of kind of learned to pick up on
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  some of those things. Yeah hospice is a... I mean that is a separate and a part calling than even just being a standard nurse. Oh yeah. I mean that's a whole
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  other cattle of fish. Yeah yeah I look like how can you do that and I you know that's me that's a great thing to do. I actually got put on the spot I was my very first year as a nursing student. One of my instructors came to me and took me completely off guard said I want you to go talk to this doctor. He talked to the doctor. I've just barely started nursing so you want me to go talk to that said yeah but I have a patient down here and he wants to go home and die and the doctor doesn't want to let him go. I want you to go talk to the patient then I want you to talk to the doctor and so yeah I did I went down I spoke with it with a gentleman for a good while and you know he actually understood that you know the doctor told him well if you stay in the hospital you might live three weeks if you go home you might live three days and he said I'll take the
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  three days at home and yeah I would quality of life as opposed to necessarily the quantity of life right and yeah I mean you know he you know he
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  understood that I would have the doctor look up he understands the choice that you're giving it and he definitely wants the three days of and then I got I got pulled into another doctor said okay fine I want you to come and help remove this port from his chest I've never done anything like that but okay let's go
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  yeah I I didn't choose this hairdo for those looking under behind the scenes video for those listening audio only I have the bald head but I had leukemia in 2010 and I started reaching out to hospice expecting that I wasn't going to get treatment my sister and my ex-wife bullied me into treatment so I'm a cancer survivor now but yeah and had dealt with hospice at the end of my father's life also we brought them in when we knew the end was nearing with him after a third stroke put him in bed permanently right yeah yeah actually
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  um the last hospice patient to take care of was my own father and that's that's
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  tough because there's that extra emotional attachment and I've lost of anybody that you're involved with it's is obviously somewhat upsetting but indeed when it's a family member there's that whole other host of additional emotion
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  yeah that that's true yeah yeah of course I've like I said I spent a lot of years working the ER so I did get involved in that and you know and I don't even with some of the patients that maybe had a little time and some of what did to have time in the ER very little time but not only with them but with the the nurses afterward
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  did you as a nurse also work at a particular hospital for a while yeah I
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  worked at several that I was I was full-time in a lot of years I did what it called travel nursing basically I traveled around the country doing 13 week contracts at hospitals that were short staff needed people I did that for several years the last last four year of nursing I actually worked for the went to work full-time for the Indian Health Service at one particular hospital and then I transferred from there to Naval Medical Service and so I
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  worked at a Navy Hospital for the last three years ah okay now and my confusing you said at the top you joined the which service did you join yeah actually I was Air Force
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  I joined the Air Force when I was 17 and I was in for just over seven years and got out yeah but I was I was a nurse said people asked well you were a nurse and I know I was a I was an aircraft mechanic and that how do you go from aircraft mechanic
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  a nurse to minister to nurse I'm fixing planes to fixing people yeah right yeah and as my friend Ed Bond to rank of WAM radio likes to joke he kind of wanted to join the service but he settled on
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  joining the Air Force yeah yeah definitely yeah
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  yeah I get a lot lot less threat of being on that front line but still serving
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  yeah I get some of that joking from friends I belong to the American Legion here and every Tuesday we have a group of us we just happened to be there on Tuesdays and we get together and one one who was a combat Marine will was combat Army during Vietnam the other one was a Marine he wasn't necessarily on the front lines but he was in Vietnam and you know the closest I got was the Philippines I stayed back and so they I get a little ribbon from them it's all good nature
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  to say yep we're gonna have everybody yeah now I am aware that you have one published book so let's talk a little about that let's start with your last book which is the last book that I
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  did is called which moon it's the seventh book in a series that they all have moon in the title and back up from from people who read them I entitled it from the start and the entry series and that's everybody no no it's the moon series they all say moon
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I did I get inspired from the teenage days of mooning people boom just just a ridiculous idiotic pond that I can I can never pass nowhere how bad the pond I can't pass
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  there yeah they actually got they got started from my love of wearables oh okay yeah they all kind of uh string out from there which moon actually by the time we get to which moon the protagonist in the story kind of uh investigate investigate all kinds of paranormal type of things and in the which moon they get called the sale of massachusetts um for uh a which problem that one of that there's a a priest there was having problems with the witches in town and he shows up and he falls dead at their doorstep and they go to investigate it look into it and it's kind of kind of based on the premise that uh you know yes innocent people died in the witch trial but that's kind of the way it was supposed to be so there wouldn't be any more witch trials and the witches that live could uh you know operate freely because nobody's going to believe after that so
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  now what was your first book in the motivation that hey i should write and release a book
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  well that i that happened when i was uh in college actually it was i got a late start yeah i told stories and things before that and you know played around with some writing but nothing um and what i did right nobody ever saw but you know that state hidden um i was actually taken a sophomore english class uh in college and uh i was given the assignment with a whole class but it was given the assignment to write a short story about the most interesting place you ever ate okay so i wrote i wrote this story uh and i i turned it in at the end and what i got on the paper was see me after class uh oh and i thought yeah uh oh what's going on here i went to the you know the professor's office after class and he said uh i don't think you understood the assignment this was supposed to be uh a real place and i told him i promise you this is a real place it's called pop guitar leaves and it's in on the island of okanawa and i visited there when i was in the service and uh as this is this is a real place and uh you know the way i described it that's that's the way it looks and uh okay so i i got an a on the paper and again at the bottom of it he wrote uh your writing sounds a lot like a fellow named jean jefford who wrote a book called in god we trust all others take cash and he was he he was the next servicemen as well uh i had never heard i thought okay i'm gonna go buy the book and i'm gonna read the book and see what it's like but before i did it was around holiday time and um the movie the christmas story a month was on tv and i watched it and at the end as the credits rolled it said from a story by jean jefford from in god we trust all others take cash i thought if he thinks i might sound like that and this has done this well maybe i should give
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  it a try and just put one out there and see what happens yeah oh that that's a that's great idea yes and uh today of course things are a lot different than the self publishing anyone it's like music too i used to write and record music back when but unlike my father teddyland and jr and the polka kings had a record deal they did three albums i never got a record deal but today you can self publish your own music online sell each tune for 99 cents self publish your own book there you don't have to sell it online yourself you can upload it to amazon and let them
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  worry about selling it for you right so yeah yeah i actually i actually did self publish my first book um it's been republished since then by the publisher i write now and i tell people you know i said the great thing about self publishing because i'm not a good self publishing uh it's a it's a great thing like it's more books more stories out there i'm all forced you know kind of self publishing and i tell them uh people that because i've i've actually now a partner in the publishing company that publishes my works so i i represent people both points of view because i deal a lot with the authors that interact with the company and the great thing about self publishing is you're the boss and you have total control first thing about self publishing is you're the boss and you
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  have total control yeah yeah i went through that well and i also make the distinction there are firms that call themselves self publishing that will give you a little help and then there are firms like my terror strikes coming through to a city near you released through aluma fly media and he liked the work so much he actually spun off a created mine is the first ever book on mckennery press i call them assisted publishing not quite right full self publishing so you can get a lot of help because like with them i i have had my title terror strikes but not a subtitle or i was thinking the subtitle might be they're here soon they'll strike and of course we've volunteered about various different things and it lined it up being similar sounding or in nature of thought coming soon to a city new you to you know lend that urgency and that it's not just a new york problem terrorism can happen everywhere and the cover also again i had thought in my mind but i eventually acquiesce to their uh more book concept that incorporated elements of what i had originally in mind because unlike martin luther king jr and we are to judge on content of character not our appearance if you don't have a good book cover your toast right your book is judged based on its cover or it goes nowhere right oh yeah okay you've got to have a and i've
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  run into that with dealing with different authors that especially that uh your book cover has to catch just catch people's eye but it also has to say something about your story because i've had people on if they had very eye-catching cover but it had nothing to do with the story i mean if you you know if i said if i did this book up i'm gonna think that it's you know that so let's say it's a romance but as soon as i start reading it i know it's not a romance but then you don't want to do that yeah you want that once that appealing cover and you want to catch the eye but you want
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  it to say something about what the story is about as well yeah absolutely i've had people say to me why don't you incorporate trump on that cover in some ways to perform you know ride coattails piggyback a bit but it's like because this isn't a book about trump exactly all kinds of people who are indeed putting trump on the cover of a book and running some a lot of crap in it and some some good stuff and you know but hey there in in my mind that's
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  kind of cheating yeah yeah i i agree yeah definitely um one of the one of the reasons i that i after i self-published one that i redid it because i did have a uh a small publishing company that did uh redesign the cover of course they edited it a lot better than i did uh and you know generally made a better book out of it and so i've been with pretty much been with them ever since and like that now i'm actually part of the company but yeah that's why i originally
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  uh approached alumify media and the mechanical repressed that it landed up being uh in conjunction with was their experience and whatnot uh i forgot where i was gonna go with that oh the editing the editing right i i always like to joke i don't like gram or nazis online
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  but you want one editing your book oh yeah yeah very very definitely yeah you want that editing um we're you know the the publisher that i work for is is there's there's small scale but they are traditional and we get you know people um how much you charge me to you know to publish my book like we don't charge people to publish your book it's a really uh yeah you know we're our job we do the editing we do covers we format it for sale on amazon uh but they say well how do how do you make money well we get a share of the royalties so we're invested in your book right your book doesn't sell we don't get any money right in that that that to me is a good model
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  as opposed to indeed a lot of other firms that hey pen gram right you know yeah you're actually interested in the book and the story you're willing to put time and effort into it for potential income on the back arrow eye on the back end rather than the front end right which is
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  you know i mean that's kind that's our publishing model because you know we don't say that that's better than any other like to you know like i said self-publishers um if you want that total control and you don't want some editor going over your work i all mean self-publish you're gonna do that that's that's what that's the right place for you to be
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  yep now we talk kind of mentioned cheating a bit which makes me want to talk about AI i've had a show on that right the laws the copyrights and trademark aren't keeping up with the AI and we already know from some stories that AI of course pulls its thoughts from all that exists on the internet already so if you're using AI you better declare it because if AI plagiarized somebody you didn't denote it you're the one going to be sued for plagiarism exactly exactly right and
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  uh amazon now when you publish a book whether you self-publish or how or the publisher does it how we could they will ask you all right we has any of this AI and you know we we took our dealings with our authors is that you know no you can't use AI in any writing we don't really want you to use it because we will allow them to at least suggest the cover they want and with you know like we don't want you to use it for the cover design either well you know we're willing to design your cover and we'll we'll work with you as much as we can to be like you want it but we don't want you using
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  AI to do it right yep i i'm a former IT guy i wholeheartedly agree to me that's a crutch that's cheating yeah yeah but uh i do use AI now to generate images for some of my online articles and whatnot here's my concept create me an image but again i specifically denote the image source galaxy AI based on this concept there's the image to go along with the article but uh let's pivot from what i understand back to kind of the in god we trust everyone else cash i understand like me you're indeed fond of the declaration of independence and the
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  constitution oh yes absolutely i've i've spent a lot a lot of time reading on it um college courses whenever i can find one that comes up uh do i have people ask me i'd say yeah i've read the federalist paper all of them yeah all of them and the anti-federalist and the anti-federalists i've i've especially done a lot of reading with them uh the last few months yeah on the on the anti-federalists
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  but yeah i i've got an article at the liberty beacon about uh today's fascia federalist versus the original intent federalist the federalist of then would be we're nothing like the fascia federalist of today that want gov the primary dc government to law it over and dictate the original federalist advocated for a broader centralized government but nowhere near did they dream things will get to where they are today i dare say yeah yeah that was pretty much a lot of the
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  of the writers of the constitution uh you know originally were opposed to a bill of rights it was the anti-federalists that pretty much promoted the bill of rights because the original federalist said well we don't need those because there's there's nowhere in the constitution that gives the government the right to do this and do this and do that and sort of the anti-federalist uh response was well that's not going to stop them from doing it you know there's got to be some safeguard uh for the people and and both sides were kind of agreed that that should be the state and that's why the government uh those the state should be the protector of their local people
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  absolutely right because what goes on here in michigan isn't the same as what goes on in your former state of california uh your current state of alabama uh regional things matter and there should not that's why there was never intended to be this top-down dictatorial control out of washington dc that more and more and more we see the erosion of our rights and indeed happening
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  oh yeah yeah absolutely and i said that that would be the safe part like i said people in michigan and people in alabama want they want they want a lot of the same things but they want different things too and they should you know by all means that's the way it should be yeah and the laboratory
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  of experimentation it gets tried in a couple states hey if it works there maybe it'll work here or maybe that no that's just not really right for our state that's again why they're supposed to be states rights not edict from dc every must everyone must do this in this way yeah i would one of the
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  things sort of along that line that kind of amuses me now officially are the uh
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  the nobody elected elon science well nobody elected all those in the deep state bureaucracy either
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  absolutely but i entered and i was not this far so when nobody elected chairman of the epa or the federal communications committee elected those people in fact the whole intent was to have people in control of things that weren't elected when the original progressives at the day's theta rosvelte wouldrew wilson the whole idea was well life is now too complicated for the common people to understand we need to put experts in charge of every now and they need to be removed from political consideration so we don't want them to be elected and you know that lived the whole opening we suffer with now is that we were in the government run by agencies and regulatory commissions that nobody's elected to get you know to those places
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  right we've moved away from biblical free will community we ought to want to be our brothers keeper through charity but the bible also makes the distinction i repeat over and over again between the unable and the unwilling to which you have no obligation but under communist authority the edict of one size fits all and theft of and from some to give to others who might be capable but just unwilling oh yeah yeah that's definitely so i mean
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  and again i get that well you're christian you're supposed to you know we had a we had an ad that ran here not long ago it was some fella he was a theologian you know had a lot of degrees and things and he was he was not a commercial and said you know if we if we see our brother in need if we shut up our vows of mercy you know how christian are we kind of what was his that and then his very next thing was right governor ivy who's the governor of alabama right governor ivy and tell her to you know to promote this law that basically raised taxes to give you know to the poor
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  steal more to give to others yeah i get you know that's what christian charity is supposed to be taking care of from our own blood and treasure not stealing it from our neighbors to help those truly in need not those just eh i don't have to do anything i'm entitled to you taking care of me now it don't work that way yeah as i told people it was listen that was listen
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  to me is that you know if the state government forces me to give money that's not christian charity either no i'm being you know i'm being forced to do it christian charity comes from the heart and you just like said you do it because you want to uh have your of your own free will and if it's not free will it's not christian charity it might be charity but it's not christian
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  for god so loves a cheerful and willing giver that one forced at the barrel of a gun for you will right and people that's why i started my show people will pick a scripture or another but completely distorted like render on two caesar right it doesn't mean turn over everything
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  to the government yeah yeah i've talked to people here recently about uh the writing about the duty to our duty as citizens and you know paul's right again i said but what paul would say if you listen to it and it's what worked for christianity in the days of room was if you are a good citizen you have nothing to fear from caesar if you you know you're doing what you should do as a good citizen uh there there's not any need you know you're really covering that's you know god yes god will take care of you but if you're doing your part of as a citizen of of the country and you're you know you're provide you are in part providing for the security that you know is offered from that and you know if as long as uh as long as the laws don't conflict with those who got
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  absolutely you should obey it yeah that there's the distinction if if indeed like we're given our leaders supposedly their free will their commitment through their oath of office do of hold law and constitution they often don't mean it when they're giving it and we see every day they breaking it but yeah again that biblical community versus worldly commie fashies socies as i combine all three because this isn't the nineteen four thirties where national socialists later known as fashies were fighting Moscow backed communists they're all one blended group with only minor differences among them all competing just under a different colored flag
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  to be the dictator over you right yeah yeah i told people that help somebody not long but that uh you know they want to say you know they've got fashies on the right hand communists on the left hand but i tell you what both of them want the same thing they want state to own and control everything yeah you do what they say well you know yeah i'm
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  gonna push back a little here that shows the public schools and university indoctrination fascism is not a right-wing thing anarchy absent of all government is the right no one i know wants complete anarchy we agree in small reasonable government fascism is a big government thing it's a leftist thing as is communism socialism monarchy government to be all end all to everything and like you said like the experts in charge because you're too stupid to be able to take care of yourself and do anything you can't be allowed to spend your money you gotta give it to us to spend on your behalf type thing oh yeah you know that and you know that's one of
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  the economic hallmarks of both those side is that they want the government to program the economy that well that of course that that destroyed most the communist countries when the government starts to run you know run the economy generally they run it into the ground that's what
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  yep absolutely okay i like to keep my shows short enough that people can listen over a lunch hour so let's wrap things up i've got your website it'll be in the extended show notes in the related links you can find it in the transcript at buzzprow but for those hearing on the audio platforms
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  what's your website for people to reach out to you at okay yeah my website is uh jackalafountain author.com or you can find me on facebook as author jackalafountain on facebook
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  and of course no doubt there's a page in amazon oh yes there's yeah if you search me on amazon
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  the books will come up or at us of honor books is the publisher that i work for house of honor
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  books.com got to write that one down house of honor.com all right i didn't know that one
JACK LAFOUNTAIN:  i'll include that in the notes too yeah those are all there also if anybody that happens to be in Nashville on the first of March i'm going to be there signing books at the Nashville Fairgrounds or if you happen to be in Pensacola on March 29th i'm going to be speaking that books by the
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  bay and signing books there too all right sounds good you may not have known jack before now now you do now you do oh and the blog again asked or no jack know yes no jack is available through your jackalafountain the fountain the fountaine i'd like you want to frenchify and make it lefanteen jackalafountain author.com.com thank you for your time today jack all right i love doing it thanks all right take care god bless all right you too 



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FEB. 2025 HEALTH WEEKS: end of Feb (last two weeks) Health Related CTP Show Specials... Joan Ifland on Health and RFK Jr. (S2EFebSpecial4 20250218); Jack Lafountain on "Healing Body, Mind, Soul," talk (S2EFebSpecial5 20250220);George Dubec "Mental Health, Society" (S2EFebSpecial6 20250225); DPB "Peer Pressure" Mental Health (S2EFebSpecial7 20250227); #ThoughtsAndPrayers many with Health Issues need them (S2EFebSpecial8).
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CTP (S2EFebSpecial4) Feb 2025 Health Weeks 1: Policy in Shaping Healthier Food Environments   
Processed food addiction is a critical health challenge that affects individuals and society alike. In our discussion with Joan Ifland, we explore the relationship between processed foods, mental health, and the need for communal support in recovery. This episode emphasizes the desire for informed choices and the urgent need for policy changes to address the food crisis.
• Joan's journey highlights the impact of processed food addiction on personal health
• The science behind cravings reveals a marketing strategy that hooks consumers
• Processed foods contribute significantly to chronic illnesses in America
• Individual responsibility must be supplemented with community and workplace support
• A call for policy changes to ensure informed consumer choices and healthier environments
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Everybody this is a special end of February 2025 intro before we get into the normal intros to state that I've moved things around a bit. Now normally you know my Wednesdays are guest drops and Saturdays monologues. Every once in a while there will be a guest on Saturday but never a monologue on Wednesday. Well this end of February the last two weeks there are going to be two guest drops a week. Seven specials total in the month of February 2025 as I'm looking up at the TV today about news that RFK Jr. was indeed officially approved by the Senate 28HS. So I had hoped to have Joan Ifland on the show with her the discussion with her before he got approved but things didn't work that way so I'm moving her show which we do discuss health and the next four shows kind of sort of all pie either mental or physical health in some way altogether that's why I'm kind of bringing them all together pushing them up doing a Tuesday and Thursday the next to last week of February. February 18th will be Joan Eifland you could see me looking down if you're looking behind the scenes video so I can make sure I get it right on the calendar. Jack Lefonten will be on with me on the 20th healing not just the body but the mind the body and the soul so that relates in kind of this last month of February all health and body and mental related together and then the following week the last week of February February 25th special number six will be George Dubek and we're talking about networking to a better society that deals with our mental state our overall mental health as a society. So I'm bringing that in earlier than it would have normally been and after that February 27 of 2025 our friend D.P.B. is back with his new song about peer pressure which of course is mental health related so I ramble enough looks actually get to the intro I take care of God bless 

Welcome to ChristTtutionalist Politics podcast aka CTP I am your host Joseph M. Lenard and that L-E-N-A-R-D CTP is your no-mus no-fuss just me you and occasional death type pot really appreciate you tuning in to Grand Norton will say let's get out with the show! Hello everybody welcome to another episode of ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast before I get to my guest Joan Ifland a little personal note behind the scenes if I appear a little slow today if the brain seems a little scrambled today it is just not getting the proper sleep that I need so if there's a lot more a's and a's as I try to unscramble the brain to get together a thought or a question I apologize in advance to you the audience and indeed my guest but I sure didn't want to cancel this did not want to put it off important topic even though it's going to air after the new year into the new year sometime in 2025 behind the scenes we are recording on Wednesday December the 18th 2024 it will be important to know that for a reason as we go the other thing I wanted to mention is I want to try as best possible to avoid any partition related items here I'm 62 my entire lifetime I remember presidents every president having a health person of course the cabinet post but often there would be a school lunch program Zara as much as I hate that we use that word right or a health this a fitness that Arnold Schwarzenegger was health you know health and fitness consultant or whatever to George W Bush right so I don't want this to be partisan but as we go there will become some partisan questions and issues because unfortunately the dug on politics creep into everything and even though we've been talking about this my whole lifetime about getting healthier some people are attacking RFK junior and he's not even head of HHS yet so can we all please calm down and wait and see and try to cooperate and get something done for a change rather than the last 50 years talk talk talk talk and nothing really gets done or worse the opposite happens because I will mention later several times intent versus method versus the results different grades but that's for later so with that as a set up 

JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Welcome today Joan if-land not I-fland we made sure to clear that up if land like it looks IFL and the lead author of the textbook processed food addiction own O W and that's Oprah's old network food addiction specialist and innovator in food addiction recovery programs and I also want to give a shout out to Lori Dennison who I was actually communicating with in order to arrange to have you come up so finally finally we get to welcome to the show Joan Ifland how are you
JOAN IFLAND:  well thank you it's a huge honor to be here and I'm very grateful to be connecting with you it's rare that somebody wants to explore the politics of recovery from processed foods I'm real excited to be here before I get
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  directly or more involved and my show normally I try to keep around 30 minutes but I definitely see us going the full hour and if you've got the time who knows maybe beyond that okay if you're my audience knows I can't pass the puns no matter how lame and the word play there's a lot to process here but I'm pumped right we're sorry had to get the lame pun out of the way but indeed there is there a lot of questions a lot of rabbit holes go down but let's first start with indeed the website normally mentioned at the end food addiction reset calm and indeed well well no again pardon the scrambled brain we need we need to do the first thing first right to the who song who are you who who who where were you born where were you raised where are you now how much time did you spend in the prison well kidding aside no seriously yep your background what what you to where you are today so we know your credentials all right yeah
JOAN IFLAND:  let's do the let's do the thumbnail so I was born in 1951 in outside of Pittsburgh my dad PhD biochemist for consumer goods company I grew up in Cincinnati I took my BA in Oberlin College in political science and government political science and economics and then my first job was at the Wisconsin state legislature as a fiscal analyst I went there from there to Stanford business school because I wanted to switch over into business and from there to five years at a fortune 200 corporation on their fine other corporate finance staff from there a full-time mom I was too sick after two pregnancies to go back to work and for the next 10 years I just I raged I was depressed I had headaches I yo yo dieting and fatigue and brain fog and I was just an embarrassing mother I didn't do a good job with my kids but in January of 1996 I gave up sugars and flowers and my life just changed so radically the cravings went away and the brain fog went away and the fatigue went away I had been doing a lot of things to try to stop the raging because I was raised by ragers and it's very traumatizing and then their lifelong sinus infection went away and the allergies went away the things that had kept me from going back to work and then about three weeks into what I realized that I hadn't yelled at anybody in three weeks and that's what got me that's what got me into the field in that moment I said oh my I'm just gonna spend the rest of my life telling people what processed foods do to them so fast forward I wrote a popular book which I don't recommend it's not based on science and it's got some serious mistakes in it oh then I did go and get my PhD I earned a PhD in addictive nutrition out of school for new fields from there I wrote papers I had a prepared meal company none of the things that I did for the next well for the first 22 years of my recovery actually helped anybody and then finally in 2018 I so and then they're in there I wrote the textbook for the field so I really dove into the research for three years full-time 2,000 citations in that textbook you know you're asking like nobody's ever heard of food addiction how could there be so much research it's because addictions in general have a lot of characteristics they do a lot of damage and when you're reading the obesity research or the eating disorder research or the diabetes research they're describing aspects of addiction so I had plenty of plenty of evidence plus with brain imaging equipment one of the first things they did nor a vocal at the National Institute of Drug Addiction drug abuse she looked at what are the brains of obese people doing and how does that compare to the brains of drug addicted people and Bing Bing Bing she nailed it in the late 1990s oh those brains are doing the same things so it was the first like really stunning evidence that processed foods are not food the brain and the body don't interpret them as food it's turkeys them as drugs so 2018 zoom came along the textbook was finished I knew what we were looking for most people at this point I know this is going to be shocking but most people would qualify as having severe cravings they're really sick because of it but they can't stop eating it so in 2018 I founded an online community based on zoom and Facebook and it was a whole combination of services but now here we are almost seven years into it and I've just recently been awarded a patent for this process of getting people off the processed foods and we're shifting our focus from addiction recovery to chronic illness remission because now seven years into this we've seen I mean this is going to sound way over the top but honestly we've seen almost every incurable chronic illness go into remission well you're
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  kind of sort of reaching to the choir here because I have been on the ability since 2004 due to health issues myself that you saw me drink right I indeed drinking plain water yeah and trying to avoid the roller coaster of the sugar caffeine highs and lows the the addiction of it indeed the craving of it and the crashing that occurs when you're not getting it and indeed well today I've got brain fog due to not enough sleep but but yes I'm healthier now that I'm still not healthy but I'm healthier than I was thank God so that is not you and also I'm beginning of your story of where you I said oh no I don't know if you heard that when you mentioned Pittsburgh I hope you're not still a penguins fan since I'm in the land of the Detroit dead wings
JOAN IFLAND:  yeah I grew up in Cincinnati and and I now live in Seattle oh and actually I lived in I lived in New York for the New York City area for 13 years 23 years in Houston so I am I'm Tri Coastal I got a favorite theme on every coast uh-huh so
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  you should be a Seattle Kraken fan now yeah but anyway you're not here to discuss sports we got so much to pack in or I'd happily go down that road but the website foodaddictionreset.com that was created when and obviously what
JOAN IFLAND:  will people find there okay so the most valuable thing you will find there is a self quiz based on the 11 signs that you have by a tobacco style marketing techniques brought over to process food that's in the mid 1980s the tobacco industry bought craft and Nabisco and general foods bing bing bing really fast three short years in the mid 1980s and you remember I've got a business background I'm a business analyst type person and they brought a very specific business model it's a very specifically of doing business when you have a worthless product worthless destructive product like a cigarette like processed foods like vaping like alcohol like opioids you have to use a particular business model you cannot sell the product based on the real value of the product because the product has no value in fact it's destructive so you have to create a fantasy around the product and then you have to hide addictive substances in the product you have to create these artificial cravings cravings are not normal and they're not they're not you know people say oh you know I have a craving I'm gonna go you know that's a sign that a business model has created cravings in your brain has a method for selling a product so that's what happened in the mid 1980s so if you go to our website and you see this list of 11 signs it's 11 signs that the tobacco style food process food industry has trained your brain to crave against your will and to your detriment but there's but there it is go take the self quiz you'll get an email inviting you to a free workshop called food addiction next steps also go there if you have a chronic illness that you want to put into remission yeah and I yeah yeah like I
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  say I I drink mostly water but it doesn't stop me from having a Coca-Cola like earlier today when I went to dinner I had a Coca-Cola but I'm not drinking eight liters of it at night anymore so the moderation it makes a
JOAN IFLAND:  difference in matters the more you use of it the sicker you will be the less you use it the healthier you will be and your ability to control how much of you use it you use it based on is based really on having the skill set of
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  controlling those cravings yeah like I said I had a what no actually I had sweet and tea with real sugar so I'll get to that in a minute the other day indeed I did have a Coke but normally if I be out I get a Coke and I have three refills right but now if I have a Coke I'm lucky to drink half of it because I want to enjoy the taste I do enjoy the taste I don't want to completely deprive myself but indeed moderation matters
JOAN IFLAND:  right exactly badly describe the battle it's the battle between the craving brain in the midbrain and the frontal lobe which knows better and the idea that your frontal lobe is going to be in charge and functioning powerfully all the time when you have these industries that are back here pumping you know provoking stimulating those cravings that's not realistic that your their frontal lobe is going to win that battle every time instead of a lot of the
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  skill set yeah so instead of like to use a young child analogy and a bad parent constantly caving if the kids having the tantrum giving it whatever it wants you not giving yourself what that kicking child kid in your head is saying I want you've got to be your own parent in a sense yes really good analogy yeah and
JOAN IFLAND:  there's some to see there's another force in the brain for feeling normal accepted cherished protected in a group and that the highest most human survival instinct is to be accepted and feel normal and so if you're in a situation where everybody around you is using processed foods everybody around you is sick and you don't join in you're gonna have a boomerang effect in your brain the next day it's just the survival and string is going to say you're gonna eat that look everybody's eating that if you don't eat that if you're not accepted if they don't welcome you you're you're gonna die you know the hyenas are gonna get you so sometimes it's better to satisfy the survival part of the brain that wants you to feel normal because it could be more difficult the next day it's it's really it's fun to understand different forces in the brain because it empowers us it makes us having the skill set and the understanding that just means that if you do eat something because everybody's eating it you're not going to blame yourself you're not going to beat yourself up you're not going to eat yourself you're like okay well I saw that you know my survival instinct to feel normal and fit in was at play I'm good maybe you and you might want to like rethink whether you want to hang out with those people anymore especially if you're trying to put diabetes into remission you're trying to avoid an amputation you're trying to avoid going blind you're trying to avoid losing your kidneys and you're like hmm you know what maybe it's not really a
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  good idea to hang out with us like an alcoholic and you an alcoholic has to change their friends you can't be with the bar crowd anymore or you have the greater chance at relapse I want to go into sugar in a minute but I did go to a bar and got a bar burger today and fries normally though 20 years ago I would have eaten that whole burger and all those but instead I eat a little and the bar burger is ground beef as opposed to going to McDonald's which is not to say I deprived myself I go to McDonald's every once in a while but this is a
JOAN IFLAND:  treat not an everyday thing everybody is weaving their own path you know based on their health profile based on their health goals based on the amount of stressors in their lives stress stress will kick up cravings any kind of an intense emotion like I know more people that laps at weddings which are happy events than practically any that really then even funerals it's just you there for a little celebration one the loose right that the cueing the triggering the stimulation the signaling it's all so intense and it goes on for hours and hours you might be someplace for the entire weekend and when you understand what it means for this stimulation to build up in your brain and cause you know result in you eating something that you really don't want to eat if you understand the mechanics then you can say okay I need to and then you have the skill set to pull yourself back out of the cravings because eating something can cause really intense cravings it's a risky thing to do but if you have a skill set for climbing back out of the cravings you know you have somebody to talk to about it you know what the cue building up is and you know you're not blaming yourself and you've got uncraving clean real food available to you you can climb back out of it as opposed to the person who has that piece of cake at the wedding and they're still binging five years later you have to know yourself and what I really like about your sharing is you know yourself I have
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  come to know myself I have several shows this show is about self-reflection that's what we're talking here walk into your bathroom look yourself in the mirror can you will you be honest with yourself or lie to yourself can you handle the questions instead of getting mad at us honestly answer the questions or get mad at us how dare we make you ask a question it's because you're mad at us because you're really mad at yourself you know the answer would be
JOAN IFLAND:  inconvenient I just that that phrase your matter yourself is actually really well documented in the research because of the messaging from the cultures particularly the weight loss industry in the medical industry oh you should be able to control this you should be able to improve your diet not when you have a processed food tobacco style industry constantly stimulating your bit brain into cravings and all the TV ads radio ads and stressful entertainment stress triggers cravings and then because of it yes the take fix triggers a lot of things trigger cravings but as you gain the skills people are hate themselves they're mad at themselves they hate themselves they don't like themselves they reject it's called self stigmatization it's it's a very painful aspect of this existence why can't I stop eating why can't I lose the weight why can't I get my glucose numbers under control why is my blood pressure out of control and and they're being told which is not true oh you should be able to do that you should be able to you know control your food you're just a glutton you're out of control you have an addictive person no no no no no you're being stimulated into insanity by tobacco style processed food marketing and it takes a skill set of protecting yourself shielding yourself from that kind of triggering plus the social pressure to consume these toxic foods this is not your fault this is not your fault and please don't be mad at yourself you're you're being challenged here this is beautiful oh but that's that's the first
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  challenge first step to self awareness right it's like grieving I say that about politics someone recognizing finally they're wrong they're gonna go through shock denial anger before they get to acceptance that's part of the self realization journey I want to go back to my drink at dinner I had iced tea and real sugar packets into it you're you're weaving your way through this minefield
JOAN IFLAND:  of a of a restaurant menu yeah but I could have just had a water right but
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  again I treated myself to that and knowing I'm in control normally I drink three of them I drank half of it but what I'm leading to is one I'm not a doctor nor do I even play one on TV or the radio but I want to lay out a theorem and you respond scientifically if I'm on track or I'm wacko but let's do it let's to set it up does everyone remember saccharine but people are out there drinking diet this diet that and wondering why they're not losing weight that's because there are artificial chemicals in there your body cannot break down and deal with so you're not losing the weight you thought you would because I contend I was better off putting real sugar and controlling the amount I had rather than having three diet coaks because again saccharine was found to cause cancer it was eliminated again I'm not a doctor I'm not a scientist but it's my contention at some point in the future they're going to finally admit to the fact those chemicals are not being processed so you are doing more harm than
JOAN IFLAND:  good any artificial sweetener even stevia any kind of concentrate so here's how it works you your tongue it starts with the the contact in of a taste bud gets that intense sweet flavor it panics because high blood glucose can kill you low blood glucose can kill you there's a safety zone for glucose but all the alarm bells go off because you have this intense sweet taste and your pancreas panics and it releases a ton of insulin because at the whole system is expecting this load of sugar this load of glucose so okay oh my gosh we're gonna get the most awful glucose surge because you can taste it it's it's coming it's coming so the pancreas panics and listen really just a bunch of insulin which now is out there in the bloodstream taking every little bit of glucose and storing it into fat muscle and liver so that you don't die from this big daylose of glucose coming and then it doesn't come boom your glucose is crashing thank you now in danger of dying from low blood glucose now here's the sad thing your body that you don't die because the adrenal glands release adrenaline because adrenaline will go running over to those muscle cells in the fat cells and pull that glucose back into your system so you don't die but the other way that your brain can get that glucose back up is to get you to go and binge on a sugar item our artificial sweeteners are set up for sugar
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  binging flour binging refined carbohydrate binging I want to thank you so much for upholding again not a doctor not a scientist but I've got functioning brain cells and common sense I can put two and two together and get more not seven right
JOAN IFLAND:  yes you have artificial sweeteners in everything and people are gaining weight like crazy yes doesn't take it doesn't take a scientist but I think it's nice to know the underlying mechanism no and so not crazy you haven't lost control it's not your childhood issues it's not that you lack well flour it's not that you don't want it or any of the other insane things that people say about to explain to you why you're why you're overeating you're being grossly manipulated horrifically manipulated the third industry but then the medical
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  industry comes along and says oh oh here's a pill for a little something ozimpic right how tragic just shoot up the rest of your life to artificially counter what you've artificially done to yourself so now you've got two competing artificial problems that are going to cause additional new other side effects
JOAN IFLAND:  well you know the saddest thing about that is that if you try to just you know bandaid this and you don't get down and fix it they go to the root causes then you never get a chance to be free so human beings are absolutely spectacular they're so wonderful they're kind they're generous they're smart they're funny but if you have chemicals in your body you you move you know you never get the thrill of it's willing to be a human being and when you have these chemicals that are depressing they have side effects they they create this extra anxiety you're tired your brain fogged even if you're cutting back on the processed foods because you don't have cravings for them everywhere you go there they are you're eating them and I think it's a weight issue it's not a weight issue it's in every cell in your body functioning happily issue well now
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I mean people can look at me on the behind-the-scenes video at pitch you bright-down daily motion rumble and YouTube I'm not starving away by any sense right my BMI is a little high I could stand to lose some pounds but it's now critical it's not critical at this point and I'm not yo-yoing which is a whole other problem in and of itself but yeah I would yeah thank you again for clinically stating the underlying facts and factors people needed to hear that indeed that common sense is clinically backed up yes yes there's science behind
JOAN IFLAND:  it but I want to offer you something about weight status this is a study that came out it had its like nanosecond of fame and then it disappeared and it was because I ran counter I can't ran counter to the medical industry and the weight loss industry here was the finding this was a statistical study that was done by the by the top statisticians at the National Institutes of Health absolutely unassailable no no chance for a mistake here's what they found people in the overweight category live the longest not the normal weight category certainly not thin you know it's it's people in the overweight category live longest people in the normal category we live next longest but people in the thin category are they live shorter lives than people in the overweight category and then you get obesity and severe
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  obesity no I'm glad you went there because I think that was the next important thing to say a big difference between a little overweight and obesity definitely that kind of overweight not good okay but I want to offer you something else
JOAN IFLAND:  even in that discussion which is obesity is not causing the diseases processed foods are causing the diseases so people like maybe they have a hundred pounds to lose and they think oh you know it's gonna take too long it won't have any impact and everybody's telling them it's the weight it's the weight it's weight that is not true it's the processed foods because we have all kinds of people who get off the processed foods they get support they they're in a community where it feels normal to eat real food and that's that's often the deciding factor for people to get control over their food but they could still have a hundred pounds to lose but because they're off their processed foods their blood pressure is going to normal rapidly their blood glucose is going to normal rapidly their heart rates are normalizing rapidly like we tell people you've got to be in touch with your doctor to deep prescribe you could fall yeah because blood pressure is too low because you you don't have the underlying cause is no longer there but you're still taking the medication to bring it down your blood pressure could be too low your heartbeat could be too slow your blood glucose could be too low and you could be in medical trouble from being now over medicated so I just want people to be excited about giving up processed foods the benefits are going to come within days you're not gonna have to wait that talk about instant gratification
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  you start to live in this world right now now now now now what do I get out of this now not next week not next year now and you're outlining benefits now so I do want to pivot now I think we've covered enough of that to make the difference without dwelling on it and getting down into such a deep hole people want to go you know snooed boring right so the hot shift a little to the politics and again at the top I pointed out the issue of intent the road to hell was paid for good intentions a lot of times as they say method matters and results have to matter right now so looking politically I want to go back and people that are regular to the show are gonna freak out I know their heads are gonna explode because I'm about to praise Bill Clinton for something you know for for we're not talking the intern staff and policy except for here I have and by the time this airs those shows will have passed but we the people the man list a kind of new quasi contract with America one of the items I call for is a return to midnight basketball as it was called now the intent then was more anti-crime but the side benefit was exercise and especially now with kids constantly with the VR goggles in virtual world rather than dealing with the real world I say we need to bring that back the intention in my mind with Bill and now and a plus Bill Clinton's methodology I give him a B plus right nobody was forced to do it let's make it so it's offered in available get kids then off the streets and away from the gangs today the need to get them off their dog on couch and doing something so I think again as long as it's that mandated you know a like JFK the Peace Corps again that was voluntary but like in Israel they mandate military service that's a good thing and there's very many reasons for that but I don't want a dictatorial mandated through junior high you will engage in this like it or not so method matters and the last thing is the results were good under Bill Clinton there's no reason to not think results will not be perfect but better so bringing midnight basketball or soccer or hockey or indoor football or whatever you would sign up for that as a good thing then I'm taking it by your shaking your head it is a good thing it's it's
JOAN IFLAND:  it's common sense a good thing but that's absolutely not where I would start
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  well it's an easy place can we do some of the easy stuff because people are going to fight on the more difficult stuff like they are already attacking
JOAN IFLAND:  our of K junior he's not even in a lot of that let's swing around RFK but here's the thing here's the thing here's the thing is that for the last 40 years since tobacco started at this tobacco style marketing and processed foods they hit a lot of high fructose corn syrup in the food they hit a lot of extra fat and salt in the food just like they had nicotine and cigarettes and pyrazine they attacked small children they took the marble country's tour and they transformed it into the Kool-Aid wacky warehouse to a dick two-year-old to sugar they did all this stuff it's all marketing stuff so let's look you know the idea here is that that we can talk about is taking some of the things that worked for tobacco control which Clinton was involved and he had us names gone straight out on my head he wrote the book the end of overeating but he was that at the FDA and he went into the trenches to fight the tobacco industry yeah so here's what we got and it worked we got control of information on the packaging so that you know just saying that this is and this is this is worked in other countries so in Chile for example they have a rating system on the package if it's high in sugar or it's high in fact it's got a warning sign on it it worked in tobacco and it can work in process foods now that that it gets we are on
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  the same page but again there will be people in the back pocket of the food lobby and the farm lobby you will fight it so it'll be more difficult but I agree with if our instead of fighting it if we cooperate I don't want to get to Tori take away your big mat I want you to be able to buy it but it has to and we did it in the past we put the labels of the calorie and the blah blah blah blah we need to go a little further I agree with that now like if it's got red dye 40 that everybody's talking about I don't want to dictate that that be removed you want to buy that it has your morning label and I am as anti-taxes they come I'm all for a bad foods tax if you want right now 40
JOAN IFLAND:  pay more for it because then we're going to be spending money treating you for the consequences so you take that we've got established policies that we know work out I will say work in quotations because I think what happened why did the tobacco industry specifically go into processed foods because we already had evidence that when people stop smoking they gain weight so tobacco chose a market to go to where people were going to be moving anyway so what happened was by controlling tobacco tobacco education tobacco taxes limited purchasing you know they took they restricted purchasing opportunities and and then warning labels all that stuff worked but I think what happened is
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  secretors secretors are still available again you want to buy it you assume that
JOAN IFLAND:  risk but here's the thing that we did not do and it's the reason why we are so incredibly sick today we didn't treat the cravings we we were totally sitting ducks for the tobacco food industry to come along and just walk our cravings to cigarettes and processed foods and attack small children oh my gosh this is a great improvement the processed food that food industry today I think it's about a 2.7 trillion dollar industry but there's another huge huge difference between tobacco and processed foods in tobacco the medical industry swung around and got behind tobacco cessation but the medical industry today now I'm glad you're sitting down this is a shocking number the medical industry today is a revenue has revenue of 4.5 trillion dollars now here get ready here's here's the worst part 90% of that is related to these chronic diet related diseases that is 17% of the US domestic economy so if you put the two together the food industry and the medical industry you're talking about 25% of the US domestic economy and that if you just swing around back to your your good questions about the political situation that answers the questions about the political situation yeah and then he will be shredded yeah exactly yeah the lobbyists and the
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  politicians who crave the money in their back pockets will and that's why we have to have all these things brought into Congress and put on the record who is voting against these things right I don't want to take away choice but I want like our of K junior says about vaccines I want informed consent and like now I want to shift to the Obama years right Michelle Obama intentions give her an A plus the school lunch program the methodology however D minus result well yes complete let me finish the setup yeah what happened is is they mandated and dictated you will eat this and the kids are throwing it out they're not
JOAN IFLAND:  eating it well here's you know she started talking about cutting back on processed foods and the Democratic Party which depends on contributions from the process food industry no no no no no no she is not allowed to talk about that and so she hit on the what was it let's move America program so she was switched over to let's move but let's move so trying to treat what most people now most Americans now meet the criteria for a severe cravings disorder if you you know there's 11 signs that I was talking about earlier I adapted those from the criteria for alcoholism and the threshold that the American Psychiatric Association has established they've said if you need six or more of these criteria you're in this severely and you need immersion recovery you really need to be protected from triggering you need to be protected from availability of the whatever the substance is and most Americans well over 80% of Americans would meet six or more of those criteria so you've got a severe mental imbalance you've got severe release of these craving neurotransmitters in the brain and the frontal lobe cannot compete it cannot put out enough rational I don't want to eat that neurotransmitters that these two parts of the brain are competing for control of the behavior centers so the craving centers win win win win Americans are eating 73% of their food in processed foods and 93% of Americans have more one or more of either high triglycerides high blood glucose high blood pressure or fat tissue on their bodies so 93% of the country have a diet related diagnosis eating 73% of their food and processed foods this is these are massive profit centers if they're massive profit centers for the medical industry they're massive process process profit centers for the pharmaceutical industry they're massive profit centers for the process food industry their massive profit centers for the agricultural industry this has gonna have to come from the ground up it's going to have to be a natural evolution and I do have an answer so I've talked for a while I'd like to hear your response but then I want to talk about what I think are all the solution we'll
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  move into the conclusions in a minute I want to go back to personal anecdotal experience and you can agree or disagree but I said it right when I was in school way back when well they were teaching reading writing an aristotic tick not Ronch perversion and peddling racism that's whole other topic you're not here for but school lunches right sometimes I would eat the better lunch entrees that were offered some days I wanted a pizza burger and a shake and to me it's levels of offerings like I used to drink carnation instant breakfast sometimes for breakfast rather than eggs or pancakes or whatnot so to me I want to solve it through options and choice because again forcing this good on them and them not eating it is worse in my mind than the pizza burger on occasion no food means they're not gonna learn anything because they're hungry they're hungry they're fidgety they can't focus and pay attention in school so we've got to have the balance have the good meal have the occasional other thing that they're gonna want to have have the carnation instant breakfast if you refuse to eat what's available at least have that so you're getting some nutrients that to me makes common sense do you agree disagree I can offer you
JOAN IFLAND:  some other ways if you have the education and you're in a support group in a community that is reinforcing this education all the time what you want to do is you want your food choices to come up from way deep down inside of you because on the morning when you have the carnation instant breakfast you're tired you have racing thoughts you can't focus but on the morning when you have the eggs and bacon you're sharp and you're you have good energy and you're smart and you're clear and you're productive after a while this is coming up from deep inside of you you just have a natural aversion to the carnation breakfast and you love your exit and bacon or sausage you know good sausage not crappy sausage but this is this is this is where we we don't tell people what to do we have support communities we have remission communities we have training for advocates for people to help other people we do that into that
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  in a second but we don't tell people what to do mandating and dictating is anti-human nature who if push push you're gonna get push back yeah but what's
JOAN IFLAND:  irresponsible is to make those products available without educating yeah they're toxic and unbelievably destructive one point seven million Americans more than five times the worst year of covid one point seven million Americans die from this every year they have short lives those grandchildren don't have their grandparents husbands don't have their wives so you do it's immoral to me to put products on the market that kill people without educating people not just about the the consequences but also about how to avoid the cravings that that will override cravings will override education what I hear is that we're on
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  the same page of informed consent and proper scientific evidence facts not study bought and paid for by so-and-so giving results that they bought and paid to have like we get in a lot of the climate hoax things again a whole other topic but indeed moving to conclusion and food edition reset.com
JOAN IFLAND:  don't let me don't let me leave without my big my big finale. Okay you know what I the non-smoking started in restaurants the environmental moves started in elementary schools I think recovery from process foods is going to happen in workplaces because it's the only place where the money is on the same side of the table so if you know if I'm a doctor I want to get money out of you and in order for me to get money out of you I have to keep you sick but in a workplace the management the ownership is paying hand over fist for medical expenses and if I so we're starting up a consulting business here we will go into a workplace and we will say let's educate your clients your employees let's make it normal to eat real food let's make it normal to be healthy to not be taking any medications because your doctor has be as deep prescribed them let's get that educate let's get that skill building let's teach people where those cravings are coming from and how to shield not just yourself but your family against them and then the expenses of the business drop so the business gets the money from making the effort it's the only place where the money is
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  on the right side of the table that makes sense yeah profit motive some will tell you oh my oh you're just being greedy that's evil and the business and when it's a huge thing is I agree and the business also changed by having healthier employees but they show up to work
JOAN IFLAND:  they're not sicking home all the time yeah they're not they're not there's present t is in where your present but you're too sick to work brain fog fatigue depression anger all of those things that process foods are related to yeah well you were very kind to let
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  me get my last for wrong that makes perfect sense it does that again to me I don't need to be a doctor I don't need to be a scientist I just have to be a thinker and able to apply common sense and you know that's why it'll never work you're trying to apply common sense
JOAN IFLAND:  well you know being an MBA having a business background spending those five years in a corporate environment I think I've got the right button they do have to produce profits this is basically what we have in the us today is unregulated capitalism which is why these companies are able to kill off 1.7 million of the population every year and and get away with it
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  and the employees should have a financial greed self-greed if we want to put that label on it motivation because companies are no longer covering full health care unless if you've got a massive Cadillac benefit being paid for forced by union contracts most people have to pay something at least for their health insurance and if we get better those costs will come down your portion will come down also well it's people have no idea how financially
JOAN IFLAND:  ruinous processed foods are it costs a lot to buy that much food and you're sick all the time so you're not getting promoted you're you don't have the self-confidence to go for promotions you if you're being if you're an hourly worker you're not at work because you're sick frequently you're buying all these different sizes of clothing and you're buying over the over the counter medications and you might have like restless spending addiction and other numbing like gambling addiction this is painful and you want to numb out so you can have you know other addictions as a consequence it's it's financially ruinous and people will run up credit card debt to pay for
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  you know midnight runs to the convenience store and so i thought we might disagree more than we have i think we are pretty much on the same pages the how the how we yeah the how we get it done how fast we get it done versus the resistance we know we're going to get what can we do now what can we do a little later what may have to wait we didn't get here overnight right so it won't happen by waving the magic wand and fixing it all overnight let's get what we can right away like a midnight basketball and warning labels at least because again i do not
JOAN IFLAND:  programs for workplaces i want programs for work that's how about tax incentives
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  lower if they've got them lower their taxes and then said i don't want the tutorial commie facie socies mandy hand down you will do this that will definitely not work
JOAN IFLAND:  in the education changing your environment changing the signaling the stimulation in your environment i'm just going to encourage you to put that at the top of the list yeah you know smoking zones we're very helpful in helping people give up the cigarettes i think they win over too
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  far later and now most restaurants are entirely smoke-free and pushing them outside the smoke you know people are attacking cigar bars want to show no let people again if you don't go there nobody's required to go to a cigar bar if the more you try to force it the more you're going to get pushed back because of the human nature so we have one you know if you like try to take
JOAN IFLAND:  the process foods out of a business for example by the water by case you're out of support you'll just walk out the door and go to the convenience store and get them and i've had managers tell me that oh no this isn't going to work it only works because you have skills and you have education and and common knowledge you've got to be in an environment where everybody understands what you're doing nobody's ridiculing you or or denying your reality and people can share wins so oh my gosh my diabetes is gone that's not possible but then the other person over here oh my diabetes is going to all of a sudden your brain starts thinking oh oh it must be possible to put nobody's there really and that and now they're interested because nobody wants
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  to be a diabetic yeah well bringing this both circle one yeah we've already gone over an hour as i figured we would like with a lot of guests we could go on for three days a little long three hours but we got a hand somewhere but bringing it back to as i introduced at the beginning intent there's great intent here but it doesn't matter if it's not followed with a good methodology that indeed incentivizes rather than punishes only to get the results so back to clinton a plus b plus b plus obama a plus on the intention c minus on the method and an object failure in the results all of those things matter so thank you i haven't said your name in a while gone ifland for joining i knew even if we were going to disagree on things that this would be a great conversation a very important conversation that we have and and like i say in other episodes we the people you can't go back to sleep voting isn't enough like all of this you've got to be active and involved awake and alert not a sheeple following the crowd right i kind of heard a lot of that without those specific words from you tonight applying common sense not the brainwashing coming in from the tv principles not personality there will be things i agree with our kjrron there may be things i don't agree with him on but attacking him just for the sake of attacking him to protect big pharma or big processed foods that's not a principle that's unprincipled and then engaging in personal character assassination and we've got to we've got to deal with the issues we may not always like the questions or the answers but we've got to be willing to have the discussions yeah i hope you invite me back
JOAN IFLAND:  oh thank you we could talk another hour i i love talking it's rare to find somebody who really wants to get into the politics or the media treatment i like what you're talking about this is not uh you know we've kind of lost traction on the value of issues and now we are into just character personality it's just sad to see politics going away yeah i don't know you remember that
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  group all i can't remember the name of the group but they they sang cult of personality right there's a lot of that it's a lot of personality and following the celebrity following the crowd emotion-based feedback rather than thinking this show was about faith but thinking about it logic and reason can you argue it without well just because i feel that way no that's not an answer that's not a valid answer can you back it up with any valid logic reason thought right so indeed i i foresee we probably need a follow-up after r of k is hopefully sworn in and we have six months to see what is or is not happening as a follow-up i will definitely
JOAN IFLAND:  i'm going to be looking for that invitation i have enjoyed this thoroughly i love talking to
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  you it's great most people yeah half tongue in cheek right because i like this if you can't laugh at yourself you shouldn't be laughing at anybody else and with the serious as things are you gotta keep a sense of humor so i'm going to make fun of myself here and say most people cover the kids ears god i never want to talk to that asshole again right fun i think you're an asshole i'm hoping fun i'm sure most don't but no doubt some do but again yes you can't poke fun at yourself self-reflection as we talked about can you look yourself in the mirror honestly ask questions or are you gonna get them out of shape because you know you wouldn't like the answers if you were honest with yourself
JOAN IFLAND:  well just remember that somebody is manipulating your brain don't get mad at yourself you are we're not paralyzed and we're not sitting back and saying oh this isn't my fault i'm not going to do anything we're saying this isn't my fault and i am going to get the skills to do something
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  about this thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you again for coming all right i'm glad that you know even despite my brain fog due to not enough sleep i'm glad i didn't try to cancel and put it off we need this discussion we need anything i'm glad to know you thank you and so thank you take care god bless take care you too have a good evening have a good life but i'll see you in six months i hope so yeah if you don't hear from me i'll get laurie to reach out right i was just going to say that help tap laurie dennis should put it on the calendar for six months if you didn't hear from me come knocking at my door again the email we definitely will need to follow up take care all right take care god bless



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RFK Jr. as Health Secretary?

Yep, gonna start again with: There will be several pieces you will see me say TRUMP BLEW IT on this or that in the September Debate, and to me HEALTH ISSUES this was another MISSED OPPORTUNITY by Trump to tout the WE WILL MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN alliance between him and RFK Jr….

Since RFK Jr. dropped out of the Presidential Race and Endorsed Donald J. Trump for President (to become POTUS47) there has been a lot of “Unity Ticket” talk. 1 Many are floating that RFK Jr. may indeed be appointed Head of HHS (Health and Human-Services) as part of Trump’s Cabinet. And, yes, what may Tulsi Gabbard (former HI Representative and also former Presidential Candidate on the Fascicrats side), who also claims “The DNC Left them” and now a Trump supporter/advocate, Head as part of Trump’s Cabinet (but that is a discussion for another day; as well as my Hope that Leo Terrell will have a spot somewhere with Trump on January 20th 2025 swear-in day (like Press-Secretary giving it back to the #ENEMEdia since it was all the Left Biased MSM that caused him to Red-Pill 2)).

I have been on Record (and NOT going to change my tune now, just because he is supporting Trump/MAGA 3) as saying “RFK Jr. is far more Teddy Kennedy loon than JFK or his Father “Conservative Democrat” (which such thing no longer exists these days 4)) and so does a “Unity Ticket” effort and hint he may take such a Post really HELP or HURT (and one-hand, and in some-respects, IMO, it does help, but on-the-other-hand indeed hurts – question is: are the Pro’s going to outweigh the Con’s?!?! Sure do not want the “Climate Hoaxer” fanatic anywhere near the EPA or such). Just because someone I could not ever, would not ever, consider for POTUS, does not exclude them from being qualified for an appropriate, carefully selected, Cabinet post – the two are not mutually exclusive.

Yes, our Foods of choice usually not as Healthy. I think most “thinking” folks understand that and at least try to (at least I hope you do, try) employ the “everything in moderation” philosophy – as it is expensive to buy and cook “all natural” grown/harvested fare. And, of course, while we all share some relevant same DNA, we are indeed all unique and different individuals and Eating habits “consequences” or “benefits” (if only Healthy Food enthusiasts) vary. Yes, can’t pass, gotta recite the “your milage may vary” phrase. 5

But seriously too – with 8 Billion folks on Earth, and growing, we are only able to Feed more and more People (yes, some still starving, but more than ever able to be fed and at relatively reasonable cost) due to advancements in Fertilizer, GMO’s, etc., our modern tech advancements have wrought. The issue of “practicality: with every growing number of People needing be fed has to be a realistic part/variable in these discussions. And, frankly, it will be somewhat difficult to “convince” vast majority that it is in their own best interests and would lower their Health-Care costs (and need for less dependence on Pharmaceuticals (something Big-Pharma 6 will NOT be happy about/with) and therefore more Pro than Con to them in the long-run…. Where was I? Oh yea, will be difficult to convince many because WITH all these supposedly going to KILL US Foods – we as Humans, on average, Living longer than ever before. 6

This all isn’t cut-and-dry, 100% black/white, up/down, good/bad; GREY-AREAS 7; there are Pros and Cons to any and all changes that could/might be proposed via HHS, FDA, etc., no matter who is Head of any of those Agencies – as the Horse is now out of the Barn as the saying goes. The discussion has ramped up and People will be expected at least SOME actions of the next Presidential Administration regardless who will be sworn in on Jan. 20th 2025.

So, indeed, perhaps RFK Jr. could/may bring us more toward sustainable more Healthy Foods – at least for those that can afford such. We have to be REALISTIC that we are not, cannot, should never, OUTLAW the advancements made that indeed allow the ever growing numbers of Humans on this Planet. We can/could/should indeed, whatever way we can, and mostly in-part perhaps through PSA’s (Public Service Announcements) to try MOVE (by Peoples’ own Choices/desires) to want to be Healthier and IF we have sound other fiscal/Economy policies – Economic BOOM so that more and more can/could/would be able to afford BETTER CHOICES/OPTIONS!!!!

VIDEO (30m 03s): CTP (S2E71, 20241026) RFK Jr for Health Secretary? and more... BTS/SP Video:
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Additional Cross-Reference-Links:   

1 I spoke to about the DUMBocrats/demoKKKrats/Fascicrats/CommieFasciSocies Convention with Rick Walker of Maverick News Canada (which can be seen via  (B4IN piece) “DNC - Please Stop, My Sides Hurt From Laughing at All Your BS. Lies, Hypocrisy, SPIN, etc...” and YouTUBE Vid “Maverick News - DNC Night 4 of LIES wrap-up” (and related “Maverick News: RFK Jr. endorses Trump” discussion))) about what we on The Right stand-for, call-for, have done and/or actually say we will/would do if granted full-control of White-House, House of Representatives, the U. S. Senate, and sufficient numbers of actual Constitutional originalist Justices (from low-courts, Appeals, and SCOTUS levels).

2 Two items: “Red-Pill strategy” and “BLEXIT” relate.

3 #PrinciplesNotPersonalities – honor, integrity, honesty not duplicity --- more:
CTP S2E60 NOTES 
ChristiTutionalist Politics (S2E60) "#PrinciplesNotPersonalities" 
See Buzzsprout podcasts Transcript for full Show Notes (related links) and Transcript Bonus  
#PrinciplesNotPersonalities - it should be a simple concept, but sadly many (both Left and Right) are more "rah rah" my guy/gal whatever rather than be honest/true to self and uphold their own "supposed" set of Principles/Values. Remember the recent CTP "Speculations and What If's" episode? Well, can/do you pass the "Shoe on the other Foot" test "What if" or are a hypocrite (which, of course, is not to say for every "Rule" there can be an occasional "exception" but if everything is allowed be "exception" you really have no Rules / Principles / Values / Standards)? Some eager to be "hypocrites" if it is for "their guy/gal" benefit.
See Buzzsprout podcasts Transcript of Episode for related addl info
Transcript Bonus: "Speculations and What If's" (TLB article)   


4 “Political Terminology --- Red-Dogs, RINOs, and Blue-Dogs, oh my... The Political Zoo, what/who they are! (are there DINOs, PLINOs, more…)” which was both a RattleWithUS TEAParty piece of mine later expounded upon on/at/with RedState/Townhall diary (what they call blogs/articles) but unfortunately I am currently unable to find an Archived version of the RedState version – the RWU TEAParty one is available (B4IN copy) Thanks to BeforeItsNews for Partnering with us (I was RWU Writing Committee Chair) to cross-post our blogs and forum writings (at least Jan. 2012 to Dec. 2019 time-frame).

5 “The Need to Keep a Sense-of-Humor” no matter how serious things are/get!

6 Big-Pharma discussion was/is covered on/in one of my CTP episodes:
CTP S1E18 SHOW NOTES
ChristiTutionalist Politics (CTP S1E18) "Odds and Ends"
Show aka: BASSAKWARDS, as the show opens with a Guest (J.J.Carrell (Activist/Author/CBP retired/NEWSMAX contributor)), in Segment-1 diving into the Dangers of Open-Borders, rather than Interview at Show end which is then followed up with "Odds and Ends" on Big Pharma, the 17th Amendment (States Rights, Checks and Balances, etc.) need repeal, God and Guns, and Bradford Colony (History of (already failed) Communism in America), and lazy-bastards' #UniParty dodge, more...
RIP Brian Terry (CBP, fellow Michiganian, stationed in AZ at time, killed by Cartel with obaMAO/Holder FastAndFurious illegal arms deal weapon)

7 I had 2 part GREY-AREA CTP series episodes:

CTP S1E22 SHOW NOTES  
ChristiTutionalist Politics (CTP S1E22) "Grey Areas"
We all wish things could be and were Black/White, Right/Wrong, Good/Evil, but reality is there are a whole lotta Grey area that do not so conveniently fit into the "definitive" this or that buckets. We shall examine that. Things do not always conveniently allow for a drive-by, pot-shot, clear and clean, limited Twitter attention span and space limitations!
Plus discussion with Rick Walker of Maverick News (Canada) on "Grey Areas" (The word itself, in the Law, Bill Clinton "what 'is' is," Yelling fire in a crowded Theater (Fraud in inducement, and incitement, NOT SPEECH), Canadian interference of/with/in Free Markets, and other US-Politics (as well as Canuckian) from a Canadian perspective) as like a Lawyer in Court I ask him leading questions an opposing Attorney would Object to! LOL

CTP S1E23 SHOW NOTES  
ChristiTutionalist Politics (CTP S1E23) "Grey Areas (part 2)"
As discussed last week, need cover more that while we all wish things could be and were Black/White, Right/Wrong, Good/Evil, but reality is there are a whole lotta Grey area that do not so conveniently fit into the "definitive" this or that buckets. We shall examine more on that. Things do not always conveniently allow for a drive-by, pot-shot, clear and clean, limited Twitter attention span and space limitations! Like is a "Tax" always a Tax? We talk about Trump's Tariffs - Grey Area or not?
Plus discussion with Miss Liz of Miss Liz's TEA-time (Canada) on "Grey Areas" and other US-Politics from a yet another "Canunk's" perspective - FYI (full disclosure) if you watch on YouTube/Rumble you'll see some rough segways as we had audio/video issues - bottom line is a GREY AREA may exist if not knowing what someone's actual motivations are!

EVERY SINGLE POTUS of late, like last 40 years, had a HEALTH COUNCIL, remember Michelle obaMAO’s EAT HEALTHY CAMPAIGN??? But now that RFK Jr is talking HEALTH with TRUMP and may be HHS Secretary GOTTA STOP TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS NEED TO BE HEALTHIER STUFF!!!!!

And semi-related: Is it HEALTHY to eat Cats, Dogs, Pets?!?!?

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BONUS MATERIAL ABOVE from: CTP S2EFebSpecial4 "Feb. 2025 Health Weeks 1: Joan Ifland" Transcript and TheLibertyBeacon "RFK Jr. as Health Secretary?" [See original piece at: https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/rfk-jr-as-health-secretary/  , for referenced links, images, and embedded videos.]