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CTP (S3EJunSpecial4) Wild Child With a Purpose w/ Charles Thompson
Charlie Thompson shares his journey from drug dealer to political aspirant, bringing insights from the streets to inform his vision for better governance that benefits everyone through ethical leadership and thoughtful policy.
• Politicians lie to get elected while public servants tell the truth and work to better people's lives
• Both political parties have corrupt individuals more interested in power than helping Americans
• Ethics and character should be prerequisites for political leadership, not afterthoughts
• Basic needs should be socialized while wants should be capitalized upon, creating a safety net not a hammock
• Term limits and age caps would help ensure elected officials can relate to their constituents
• Addressing poverty and meeting basic needs reduces crime and creates opportunity for all
• Thompson's diverse background includes football coaching, comedy, chemistry, and security work
You can find Charlie Thompson on X under TheCharlieTruth, on Facebook as Charles Thompson, and on YouTube where he's producing more content to reach audiences across the political spectrum. 

Chapters

• 0:38 Introduction to Charlie Thompson
• 6:30 Politicians vs. Public Servants
• 11:53 Ethics, Morality, and Leadership
• 18:46 Socialism, Capitalism, and Basic Needs
• 28:22 Comedy and Security Work
• 32:17 Football Coaching and Strategy
• 41:45 Social Media and Communication
• 46:25 Closing Thoughts and Contact Info

Transcript

Joseph M Lenard: 0:19

Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, aka CTP. I am your host, joseph M Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. Ctp is your no-must, no-fuss just me, you and occasional guest-type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. As Graham Norton would say, let's get on with the show. Buddy, welcome to another episode of Christitutional Guest Day Drops.

Joseph M Lenard: 0:50

You know I don't script shows, folks, if this is your first show, I don't script. I do have a few notes and I purposely don't want to know a lot about my guest because it leads to more natural conversation that way, before I officially introduce and bring on the guest, I'm going to read just, owner, biologist, chemist, bouncer, bartender, philosopher, psychologist I like to joke, I'm not psychic, I'm psychotic. But football coach, former drug dealer oh, we definitely got to go there. Comedian oh, we definitely got to go there. Comedian oh, I definitely want to go there too. Podcaster and general wild child that just wants to make the world a better place by creating laws that work in a way that benefits everyone. Amen to that, brother. And so welcome to the show, charlie Thompson. How are you today? I'm good. It's a pleasure to be here. It's a pleasure to be anywhere, brother, and so welcome to the show, charlie Thompson. How are you today? I'm good.

Charles Thompson: 2:06

It's a pleasure to be here. It's a pleasure to be anywhere, obviously.

Joseph M Lenard: 2:09

Yeah, that's a lot that crams a lot. That's a lot to unpack here now.

Charles Thompson: 2:17

I've done a lot of things of expertise where I actually was coaching college football when I was a kid. I grew up a drug dealer. That's I'm actually. That's my big thing is to be a politician because I want to be president. I want to show the world there's something better than what we've seen the last 40, 50, 60, 100 years.

Joseph M Lenard: 2:31

And I've had several people on that, indeed were into drugs and whatnot. A ne'er-do-well that saw the light and wants a better life, not for themselves, but for everyone. That's part of your story too.

Charles Thompson: 2:49

Absolutely, I'll tell you this One thing about being a drug dealer is you see people who are misled out of society, who are kind of outcasts. You see the people who have the mental trauma, physical trauma They've been through. They have horrible stories in their life. They've, you know, they had bad parenting and this and that, and these are things that good laws, if we have people working together and doing the right things, we can actually eliminate from society. It's just something you can do and you see that firsthand when you're in that life and you're in the streets and you see the people who are on the lower side of the world, who have been kicked too many times, and you realize if you can improve everybody's life if you're just using good logic, using good information and trying to do the right thing ethically.

Joseph M Lenard: 3:29

Yeah, and I'm glad you said that there's a lot of bad politicians out there who are all about them power and control. They don't want things better, better. They want the excuse of the issue to continue to perpetuate and say, oh, I didn't get it fixed yet, but elect me again and elect me again and elect me. It's never about their crisis actors.

Charles Thompson: 4:00

Yeah, they're just crisis actors. The reality is, I tell people there's two types of political figures. There's politicians people who will lie to you so you can elect them, so they can use that platform to cheat and steal from you. And there are public servants, people who tell you the truth, who you elect, who will go up there and do those things to better your life. One group goes up there to better themselves the politicians and one goes to better the people the public servants.

Joseph M Lenard: 4:30

I've always been a public servant, I hear you. I've run for office many times myself, hence the show Christitutionalist Politics about biblical community, which is free will that God gave us. We are to want to be our brother's keeper versus leftist commie fashy, socis, as I call them. It's all about their power, their control.

Charles Thompson: 4:51

Actually, I think both sides have the same problem. Don't tell me the far right isn't the same way of our way versus screw everybody else. They've been pushing that same narrative in a whole different direction.

Joseph M Lenard: 4:59

A lot of bad politicians on the right too. Yes, I'm not here to be rah rah, rah, rah for my side.

Charles Thompson: 5:08

I'm saying both sides have these same types of individuals doing the same garbage and not benefiting American people. And that's the endgame. Is not benefiting the American people is the part that matters.

Joseph M Lenard: 5:18

Yeah, I agree with you. We have far too many left and right in that former about themselves a politician than the latter. Actual real public service, not an ineptocracy, not a kleptocracy that we've been turning into, but a actual public servant, representative republic. You go to serve for a bit, then you get your ass back home and live a real life in the private sector is never meant to be a lifelong career. That we've allowed them because it is we, the people in big bold letters.

Charles Thompson: 6:12

But we, the people, have shirked our duty and let them this all comes down to a simple thing the constitution was written with the idea that the average person would have ethics. That was his first thing. You're gonna have adam, no, no, no. We said adam yeah without somebody saying no, no, you're gonna have ethics. So there'll be consequences. They don't have ethics. That's where the problem went, and I mean, I'm all for term limits, I'm for age limits. Remember there used to be age limits. 65 was the number, reagan, for they elected reagan and because he was older, they changed the laws to get rid of that. That age cap. Strong thurman. He didn't retire, he died in office at 100.

Charles Thompson: 6:53

We've got guys, and how many people in office in congress now in their 80s and 90s same with robert.

Joseph M Lenard: 6:58

Yeah, how do they?

Charles Thompson: 6:59

how do they relate to me? I'm in my 40s. How do they rate to a person in their 20s? They don't. You're supposed to be making laws for these people's next 20, 30, 40 years of their life.

Joseph M Lenard: 7:07

The left loves to use that as a dodge. Oh for the greater good. Whenever that comes out of their mouth, it's all about what they're going to get out of it. It's never for the greater good, it's just the language-twisting dodge. So yeah, again, I'm not. This is a constitutionalist show, not a Republican show. I criticize plenty of Republicans. There are very few on the left worthy of any praise, unfortunately, but yeah, there are far too many on the right needing of criticism too, and I always say principles, not personality. I'm not here to wear the R-T-MAT rah, rah, rah.

Charles Thompson: 8:08

I never worry about what your policies are until I know who you are as a person. If I find out you have principles and you have ethics, I'm going to look at you a lot different, even if I don't agree exactly with your platform. I want to know I'm going to have honest people, honorable people, is going to be in and have integrity and have ethics. I want to know I'm going to have honest people, honorable people, is going to be in and have integrity and have ethics. That's what I care about first. What you're for is secondary to that. And you know people and not to mention that platform can be a lie.

Joseph M Lenard: 8:32

Yeah.

Charles Thompson: 8:32

Platform could be a true and be a bad. Bad, true, but if you have ethics and principle, you're going to more often and not work for a better answer to the question.

Joseph M Lenard: 8:41

Yeah, and you triggered in a good way, thoughtful, not the oh my God, you hurt my feelings snowflake trigger away, but three things results I don't give a damn about your hot air. What are the results? You shall be known by your fruits. You shall be known by your fruits, not your empty rhetoric. The other thing about morals and integrity. Adams said our Constitution is only valid and good for a ethical, honest, moral, religious peoples. And we've lost that. And the third thing, to go with what you said, martin Luther King Jr content of character. I don't give a damn what your skin pigmentation is, where you're from originally, where you live now. What is your character? And again, you have good moral character or you're a slime ball.

Charles Thompson: 9:43

That's it and, as, as I said, you can see, that's in both sides, that's in every side in this conversation and it's in politics, it's, it's in, it's in our business and let's not say it's it's in our clergy too. How many clergy do we know are are over here preaching against the things that jesus preached, or preaching again are are going down for pedophilia and child born and things like that, or are literally pushing for certain political agendas and stuff. It's like whoa, none of this is supposed to be what christ. Christ talked about. You just just change is using it to to manipulate people at this.

Joseph M Lenard: 10:15

Well, I I stay biblically rooted. I speak out against kamiifashi soshis, as I call them, because they're not biblically based. They're fake Christians. Christ said is quoted as saying in Matthew vipers snakes, false guides. There will always be fake Christians for their own power and control. Own power and control. Biblical community is free will. God gave us free will. We are to want to be our brother's keeper. Communism is about theft and force. That's not biblical.

Charles Thompson: 10:56

I'm about not left-right, Republican, Democrat, but biblical. I would say you've got to separate the socio from the economic part. Communism is just an economic idea. The say you've got to separate the socio from the economic part. Communism is just an economic idea. The question you've got to look at is who's running it? That's the problem. We're supposed to be a capitalist society. If you look at the laws we're passing, we're not passing capitalist laws. We're passing corruptionist laws and corporatist laws that don't benefit actual capitalism and leverage the system. That means we're not playing by capitalists. We're actual capitalism and leverage the system. That means we're not playing by capitalism, we're playing by corruptionists. What's doing that? Corrupt people. The problem is the corrupt people running them, screwing them all up.

Joseph M Lenard: 11:28

They're the people pushing it. That's the problem. It's the bad leadership. Bad leadership is the bad leadership. I'm going to push back on you a little here. There's a reason why communism failed on our continent. The Bradford Colony, the Mayflower Compact, was a commonwealth, a socialist communism concept, where everybody owned everything equally. They almost all starved to death. Communism fails every word tried because of human nature is to be lazy.

Charles Thompson: 12:06

Well, here's the thing Everything has to have guide rails. For me, I think of the world like this All needs should be socialized and all wants capitalized upon. Look, if you're willing to work a full-time job, you should have the dignity of a place to live, clothes on your back and food on the table. And there's a bunch of people working full-time jobs, huge full-time jobs, and not having that that's corruption and that is a problem. At the same time, you can't have ultra uber billionaires taking food out of everybody's mouth for their own greed. You can't have that. As long as you have greed, you're going to have need. So the key is to get rid of need and then y'all can fight for whatever's left. That's not greed, because you'll never get that to that extent, because the needs are met.

Charles Thompson: 12:47

The system we have is, as I said, corrupted, and that's the key is I want to make sure I change that and look at the world as it should be Needs socialized, wants capitalized upon. We need a fire department. Obviously, the people need to pay it, because when you didn't, we saw it happen in New York. They had two fire departments. They would steal everybody's stuff and then charge them money to get it back. They became corrupt because they didn't have a guardrail. That's the whole point. If you can get people's needs met, then they have a safety net. It makes them more likely to try that If I fail.

Charles Thompson: 13:20

But I've got this money, I'm going to build me a business. You've got to risk everything you got and if you lose you're going to the street. And now you're going to jail. The second you're sleeping on the street because that's against the law. You see how that can be a downer spiral, so you're not going to take the same risk. I want risk takers. I want the cream to rise to the top. We'll have to have a chance to rise to the top. That's what this is all about.

Joseph M Lenard: 13:39

Well, I'm going to push back on you again a little bit about Marxism. Cultural Marxism is what's invaded the church. Even I'm born and raised Catholic, but this is not a Catholic show. If we argue about denominations, satan wins, christ doesn't. But I call the Pope Francis the nincompoop. He's more interested in communism, worldly communism, than Catholicism. So, cultural Marxism. It was one of their aims, through social issues, to infiltrate, to help bring about communistic rule. And you mentioned poor people. Communistic rule and you mentioned poor people. Jesus said the poor will always be among you. And that's not an economic statement, that's a political governance statement, it's a human nature statement. There will always, like I said about Bradford Collins, there will always be lazy people who refuse to help themselves, want others to do everything for them.

Charles Thompson: 14:49

If you have the proper guardrails in place, those people don't exist, okay. But that doesn't mean you're getting rid of the idea of community. That doesn't mean you're getting rid of the idea of socialism. It's just now incorporated into a way you have people really hurting. When people hurt, they start robbing and stealing. Most people are not criminals by nature. They're criminals out of necessity. So that means when you create more people with need, you're creating more criminals. That's a problem with society. You don't have to have poor. Jesus is wrong about that, because if you find out more ways to make money, eventually you will have enough society, equality and economics to make where need can go away. There are lazy people. There will always be lazy people. That's what jesus was saying. But that's not. That's not the person. You and he just said the same thing.

Joseph M Lenard: 15:39

Well, me and him are the same person.

Charles Thompson: 15:40

We've always been the same person. That's just the way it is.

Joseph M Lenard: 15:43

But the other thing is money. The Bible says not money is the root of all evil, the love of money is the root of all evil.

Charles Thompson: 15:53

Well you, know what evil actually is Greed, not just greed, but greed of power. Power itself is what corrupts. Power is Satan. The idea of power itself is Satan, because it is what corrupts people. The more money you have is how much power you have. Look at the people with the most money. They seem to be doing a lot of evil things lately. And again, that's because one is the other. Man's enemy is not some guy with horns, it's power. It's our own greed of power. It's our biggest enemy. It's always been our biggest enemy. That's the devil in every man.

Joseph M Lenard: 16:39

You've got to beat that. Absolute power tends to corrupt and absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely. That's just the fact of life. I say you're saying the same thing, just differently, Because, yes, there will always be lazy people and that's why, again, communism failed. At the Bradford colony, Moore said if I'm going to get equal food, if I'm going to get roof over my head, I'm not going to do anything. And sooner or later, Atlas shrugs.

Charles Thompson: 17:04

That's absolute socialism, communism. I don't believe in absolute capitalism. I don't believe in absolute capitalism. I don't believe in absolute socialism. That's why I say mine is needs should be socialized, wants capitalized upon. Because mine's more of a combined system. Because look people that need. We need to get their needs met. There's people that need medication to live. We need to make sure they're getting that medication. They can't be charging $5,000 just for a life-saving anything we $50,000 just for a life-saving anything. We need those people surviving. We need people making money. We need people able to go to work.

Charles Thompson: 17:30

If I have a man who's got two broken legs and can't get medical help, guess what he's not going to be able to do again Walk. If he can't walk, he can't work. Now I have another freeloader who's not even a freeloader, he's not even lazy, but it's because of a system that didn't help him. And you know what's funny, what I just said right there. That's actually socialism. It's not everybody gets the same money. It's you work this hard, you get this money. You work this hard, you get this money. You didn't work at all, you get this money. This is what you get, because this is enough to live on. That's all you get. You make it a meritocracy, but at least with a safety net.

Joseph M Lenard: 18:00

That's what I'm looking at. No, you went exactly where I was going to go. Next, next, Everyone I know as Christians we believe in again be our brother's keeper. We believe in a safety net, not a safety hammock for the lazy, Because the. Bible also says there's a difference between the unwilling and the unable. I have no obligation to the unwilling.

Charles Thompson: 18:28

Absolutely. I don't believe nobody should have those that are unwilling to help us. You know you're on your own. We were working as a society. What does that mean? First, working and second, society Working, putting an effort society together.

Joseph M Lenard: 18:43

I want to get off the heavy stuff. You said you're a comedian and I'm known as Jokester Joe. On the Savage Unfiltered show I'm the lame pun king, so you know all the wordplay and the lame puns like here's one of my jokes that's a Joe original. It's in my Terror Strikes book. That was copyrighted originally in 2006. A Viagra joke. Guy walks into a bar, says give me a Coke with a Viagra in it. The bartender looks because you're a bartender too, so this will work for you. Bartender looks at him kind of funny so he says I need a really stiff drink, right? So let's talk about you as a comedian. Let's get a little lighter.

Charles Thompson: 19:32

My comedian, my comedy is actually super dark because I'm very, you know, I have a very dark personality in nature. So so, like, like, I like to make little quips and stuff, like I had. I'm right now working security at a club and this guy told this girl he wants to taste her, you know. And I told her what she should tell him and she told him and I don't know how how verbal you want me to get on this show, but I'll, is it careful? It's Christian show. But the gist of what I told her to say, that if you want to taste me, then you're going to have to put your mouth on another man's.

Charles Thompson: 20:12

Oh he went white, pale, white. Everybody's busted out laughing on him and I'm just like no, that that's good, that's perfect.

Joseph M Lenard: 20:22

But yeah, I'm glad you PG'd it for the show. But but yeah, I'm not trying to offend anybody I'm not a person.

Charles Thompson: 20:30

I don't believe in pc myself because I believe in freedom of speech all the way, but I don't want to sit here and, you know, mess with your show. I know you have a way you do your show and I want to make sure I appear to the adhere to that.

Joseph M Lenard: 20:40

Yeah well, hey, like I say, I'm jokester joe on savage done, filtered. But uh, I have people approach me to say I can hardly believe you're a christian because I hear you on savaged, unfiltered and wow, the stuff comes out your mouth sometimes, right, I feel like different things. Yeah, for different. They all have a season.

Charles Thompson: 21:08

I feel like any limitation of your own speech and own thought will eventually cause your own corruption. I think you have to be open with yourself and who you are, and open with the world. You see, even if it is a little vulgar, because that's the more honest way to look at it, when you hinder your speech, you're hindering also sometimes the way you think, which can be a wage for somebody to take advantage of you in a situation.

Joseph M Lenard: 22:00

Okay, and another joke that's in my Terror Strikes book, a Shakespeare joke. To be or not to be is truly the question. Because of it to be, I got bingo.

Charles Thompson: 22:15

I always say that the one I like about Shakespearepeare is when he said to that I own self. Be true, because you, you got to be honest with yourself, because that's how you become an authentic person. If you're not honest with yourself, you know, then you can really mess your own life up yeah, I got some weird jokes in here.

Joseph M Lenard: 22:31

I'm just trying to look yeah, I was going to ask you. That was my next question. Do you again? There are some uptight christians. This is not meant to be an uptight christian show, but with that in mind, what are? Some jokes that are your favorites you could share to some of the audience that might get easily offended as a bouncer, I've had a lot of times where people weren't dressing certain ways.

Charles Thompson: 22:55

Like you know, I had a dress code and they had an unbuttoned shirt. Well, this one guy had an unbuttoned shirt and a cowboy hat and I'm six, seven, 275 pounds, and this dude was about six four, so he's a big man, and I walked behind him on the shoulder like homeboy if you don't button up that shirt, you might turn me on and I'm gonna have to save a horse and ride a cowboy. Hey boys, just he. I'm sorry, brother, he buttoned up that shirt so fast. I mean, I couldn't help. I was trying to say it with a straight face but he got busted out laughing at the end of it because it was just too funny.

Joseph M Lenard: 23:24

I was just making a joke to make him put his shirt on. That's a perfect setup and a perfect response to deal with a situation in a lighthearted way.

Charles Thompson: 23:35

Yeah, that's of course for those who don't. I'm a big violent guy. I'm big, but I'm not violent, so I try to make it humorous.

Joseph M Lenard: 23:48

For those who don't know, that's the Brooks and Dunn song Save a Horse, ride a Cowboy, which is a tongue-in-cheek fun, funny kind of song, yeah.

Charles Thompson: 23:55

Things like that are what I do. I make jokes like that. One dude was like how do I get a job there?

Joseph M Lenard: 24:02

somebody's gonna like you. He's looking at me like, wait what I'm like?

Charles Thompson: 24:04

yeah, somebody's gonna like you, and I don't think you're getting a job here oh, oh, I gotta go into.

Joseph M Lenard: 24:09

You're a chemist, so, and you're a former drug dealer, so wink, wink, nah, nah, I'm only joking when I say can I get my drugs from you, and by that I mean like ivermectin and stuff? Can you brew that up for me?

Charles Thompson: 24:27

No, no, those things like that take extreme amounts of money that I don't have. But reality is, when I was a kid I was the drug dealer and, as I said, I got through college and then I did some work but then I became a drug dealer again because it was side money. You know, in this world that's kind of the thing. You got to have money and that was an issue. So I went back to it for a little bit. But no, I have never made illegal narcotics. I have been asked on multiple occasions hey man, can you do this for me? I know you have a college degree in biology. I know you have your your bs in biology and your bs in biology and chemistry. Can you make this? I'm like, if you give me the equipment and you give me the recipes and things necessary, I absolutely can. But that's not what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying. I don't want to be making methamphetamine. I don't want to be making this. You know things like that.

Joseph M Lenard: 25:13

It's that goes back to inner morality though, too, you don't want to make things that harm people.

Charles Thompson: 25:21

Yeah, yeah, I, I. I'm not that guy. So, no, I've never made those type of things. I have the ability, yes, I have the knowledge, I know how to use the equipment, but I'm not ever going to do that.

Joseph M Lenard: 25:31

Well, again another perfect example of my show, why I don't want to know much about my guests and why I don't script shows. We go down whatever rabbit holes open and again I think this is a better show for it as opposed to like I like to joke. I'm an author, so I have several books. I get invited on the shows to talk about my books and it's like nothing more boring than a show like welcome to the book show. Tell us about your book. Oh god, almighty, you're gonna put everybody to sleep.

Charles Thompson: 26:08

I mean the thing questions I have about that is it shows that they probably didn't read the book because they would have had specific questions about your book. Like I want to know certain things. I read your book and here's something I want to know if you can give me a little more on, because it makes it a little more interactive. It gives them a chance to get some in-depth. I've had ones that just I just ask a simple question and okay, okay, okay, yes no, no interaction.

Charles Thompson: 26:32

Yeah, no interaction and I'm making great points or points that they, you know, it's like I, I want to hear opinions, we want, we're trying to be communicating, we're supposed to be putting on a you know, you know, two-way discussion. Yes, absolutely. And so I mean I, I think with how many podcasts and things I've been on and you know, and guests, you know, I started seeing difference in how people do things and you know, most everyone invites me back and I've been on multiple ones that are political, multiple ones about my sports, multiple about being authentic as a human being, uh, things that I think would be better for society. You know how, how I look at being a better human every day, a better person, a better person for my friends my family the world in general well, let me put you on the spot now, because I don't know exactly when this will air.

Joseph M Lenard: 27:15

It'll be months in the future, right? So that big game that you're not supposed to say the name or they might sue you. Right, the Chiefs and the Eagles. Let me put you on the spot. Who do you think will win? And by then you'll either be proven wrong or right already. What are your thoughts on it?

Charles Thompson: 27:37

My thoughts have been since the first day of the season um, until somebody can beat Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs, I just don't believe it can be done. He, his numbers in the playoffs are fantastic. That defense has one of the best defensive lines. They always win the line of scrimmage. This is the one matchup that is intriguing because if that vaulted uh offensive line of the philadelphia eagles, you know they have the number two defense, number one left tackling football, the number two right tackling football, the number three center, so they have a number one unit and they have a top three back in the game. You know mcafree being injured, derrick henry and saquon barkley. If they can get that run game started, they can absolutely play with the Chiefs 100%.

Joseph M Lenard: 28:19

I mean two years ago they were the Lions. The Lions have beat the Chiefs a couple times in the last two years, Just not in the playoffs.

Charles Thompson: 28:27

That's the part where it matters. Look at the Bills. The Bills have a winning record against the Chiefs in the last five years. In a regular season Can't win a playoff game. Oh and four. That team in the playoffs plays perfect situational football. They play cerebral. They don't make penalties, they don't turn the ball over. Offensively and defensively, they win the line of scrimmage. And if they do what they normally do, I have it chiefs are going to win and I have it as my homes is going to get the last points, to get the lead. That's just how it goes.

Joseph M Lenard: 28:54

Um, I think I I kind of see it the same way. I think we could be proven wrong. The Eagles could win.

Charles Thompson: 29:02

They absolutely could win If it lines up right.

Charles Thompson: 29:06

But I think the closest anybody had to beating the Chiefs in the playoffs was last year in the Super Bowl when the Niners had them arguing with each other. If the Niners would have scored a touchdown earlier in that third quarter they would have broken the Chiefs mentally and they would have folded. They were showing the signs of folded and then they had a bad third quarter with no passes, with no runs, and then they had the botched punt return which got the Chiefs a touchdown and got them back in the game and that changed the momentum of that game. And even then the Niners still got three leads in the fourth quarter and in overtime and just couldn't finish the game.

Joseph M Lenard: 29:35

I don't know if I don't disagree with that either, and normally I wouldn't go there with a guest. But since you were a football coach, I'll tell you my football background. I'll talk about bread and circus. You need occasional distractions, like that game. But if you're consumed by the bread and circus all the time, that's what they want you not pay attention?

Charles Thompson: 30:07

Yeah, because they can steal from behind your back while you're not paying attention. Bingo. But I'll go to my football qualifications. When I grew up, I played quarterback Okay, so I'm an offensive-minded quarterback. When I got to coaching, I became a defensive line coach and then a defensive coordinator, because I know how to mess with quarterbacks. Now I still have a brand new offensive playbook that I take from all the big plays.

Charles Thompson: 30:27

I see that I know how to use from NFL college. I have a full playbook on offense and a full playbook of mine on defense and there are some defensive view plays I've ran that I know nobody's ever seen before. They're just different variations of things. I've seen that actually counter. Like, if you're doing a spread option, I have a defense actually designed to stop spread options all day to take away the running game. That way I can make you one dimensional.

Charles Thompson: 30:49

I learned how to how to exploit quarterbacks because their biggest weakness is pressure up the middle. So when I ran my D line, there was a game in which we had 14 sacks and held them to negative yards, and most of it was for my two defensive tackles. I took over a game with my defensive line and all of these guys went to college. I got all these guys from into college, into into scholarships. I'm proud of those guys. They went, they got, they got degrees, they got families. Now those are good men and I know I helped raise and I'm proud of that and it's hard to come up with something new.

Joseph M Lenard: 31:19

Usually, like you said, things are a variation of a theme. Now the lions have been given credit for the trick play, what's become known as the stumble bum play. Did you see that game? I think it was against the Bears. Yeah, that was brilliant. But I'm like why did you waste that play on the Bears? You should have saved it for the vikings, who you had to beat my thing is you.

Charles Thompson: 31:47

I feel like, as a coach, you have to have plays saved that you practice all year, but you don't use them until you absolutely it's life or death. It's not even in regular season. It's like when we get to the playoffs, we're in the super bowl. We're down three with with 10 minutes to play, we are on the first down. That's when I throw this play that we practice all year. We know it's going to work. No one's seen it, so no one knows what to do Right.

Joseph M Lenard: 32:10

Yeah, you and I are on the same page. I'm screaming at the TV because I had heard rumors of something you know, because after the game Goff was interviewed and it said the coach asked him can you purposely fumble, bounce the ball back? That was the initial thought I said well, that's too risky. Well, let's fake fall, because that indeed confuses the defense. Is he falling, is he down?

Charles Thompson: 32:47

Now you could fumble it to yourself. If you hit the fat part of the ball, it'll bounce straight back up.

Joseph M Lenard: 32:51

Yeah, but it's risky.

Charles Thompson: 32:52

The problem is trying to do that at 100 miles an hour where you have guys trying to tackle you where, if you misplayed any, all now you've just lost everything. You don't want to take the risk of the ball coming out of your hands. But again, why use it for the Bears, especially when you're up 30? You know you're winning, just to make fun of them. Hey, look, how good I am at designing plays. Yeah, you might need that. They would have needed that against Washington.

Joseph M Lenard: 33:16

It could have helped get some points, and that came out of the thinking from the previous year in the playoffs when Goff did literally trip over a lineman but tossed the ball. His knee was actually down but he wasn't touched, so it was still a valid forward pass. That was a legitimate fall. That, oh my god, it managed to work. But that's what made him think. If we fake a fall, you'll throw people off.

Charles Thompson: 33:47

Did you see what Andy Reid did two weeks ago where he latched it, threw it back to the running back and the running back did the shuffle pass off of it Like that little combination? I'm like that threw the defense off route because you don't expect that shuffle off of a false it was a beautiful idea of a play design.

Joseph M Lenard: 34:03

The Lions have done that too. It was a beautiful idea of a play design. The Lions have done that too.

Charles Thompson: 34:07

yes, and then, of course, last week you also had they showed Nick Foles at the Philadelphia game and Tom Brady. I'm jealous of you because you caught the pass, I didn't, because they both ran a Philly special in their Super Bowl. The difference is Brady lost, bounced off his hands going down the sidelines, and Foles caught his for the touchdown.

Joseph M Lenard: 34:23

Yeah, and then the other thing too was in the playoff game that the Lions lost. They got desperate so they tried a flea flicker variation. The wide receiver, he threw the. That's okay to try that, but if he's not open, don't throw it.

Charles Thompson: 34:46

But the problem is, think who you're asking to do that to the guy who never gets to throw the ball.

Joseph M Lenard: 34:50

So he's like I get the chance to throw it, I got to make a play.

Charles Thompson: 34:53

If you go to your quarterback, the first thing he's thinking, look, I got to make sure I manage the game. This is a pick. We throw it out of bounds. The guy that's a wide receiver is thinking, oh, I get to throw the football. He doesn't think like a quarterback.

Joseph M Lenard: 35:04

So you really don't want to call that if you didn't grained in him. Only throw it if he's open. Otherwise, like you said, throw it out of bounds or just run it.

Charles Thompson: 35:15

It's got to be a run pass, it's got to be an rpo yeah, the biggest problem with the rate with the for the lions was they were just too beat up on defense. They had no way to stop anybody. So they were having to play touchdown, touchdown, and that's fine until they got behind by more than two scores. And then you're having to force the ball so much you're going to get turnovers, and that's how the commanders started taking over that game.

Joseph M Lenard: 35:38

Yep, absolutely, because I was happy. Oh the commander's great. We get to see a team we hadn't played in a while, so that wasn't a bad thing. Hindsight's always 20-20. Now we would have rather not seen the commander.

Charles Thompson: 35:56

You found what is going to. Probably if he keeps, if Jaden Daniels keeps advancing, that's the best quarterback in the NFC. If he keeps improving, because the way he played football was not like a rookie, he looked like a good vet that knew how to play playoff football.

Charles Thompson: 36:08

He made the smart plays. He made touchdowns down the field. He used his legs. He didn't make bad throws, because you know, it's not how many touchdowns he threw in the playoffs, it's how many turnovers. Lamar Jackson, he has a couple of turnovers. They lose the game. He outplayed Allen in the second half, but those two turnovers in the first half, those were the wound that killed him.

Joseph M Lenard: 36:27

I forget. I think it may have been the not important who the Lions played, but indeed they had four turnovers in the game but yet still managed to come back and win.

Charles Thompson: 36:43

They were four golf picks. They were four golf picks and that was one of the things because he was in the MVP running up until that game and that four picks was like, yes, you won, but you can't let this happen again, Exactly In the playoffs turnovers are deadly.

Charles Thompson: 36:59

In the regular season you can have turnovers because you have next week. Once you're in the playoffs, it's one and done 60 minutes. A turnover is an extra possession, it can be a point swing points off. Turnovers are huge, like the three. There's three things it takes to win a football game win the line of scrimmage, don't have turnovers and no stupid penalties. Just playing smart football is those three things.

Joseph M Lenard: 37:17

Those are fundamentals and that's always been lions football. I called it the ford ownership curse until lately, uh, when?

Charles Thompson: 37:27

bobby lane? I don't know what it is.

Joseph M Lenard: 37:30

But I know ownership curse yeah, but what's funny?

Charles Thompson: 37:33

it's funny it's you know, I've been watching football since since montana won the super bowl, right since the 80s, and so many teams are literally the same team. They are now just different. Personnel like the niners play the same exact offense. They still play a West Coast offense. They still are known for mean defense. That's why every time they're healthy, they're deep in the playoffs. The Packers they play the same. They always have a good quarterback. They've always played just the same style of football. They may have changed their offense a little bit here or there, but if you look at the way they play it's like, wow, go find a Packers team under Lombardi and find one now, and you're like those play. They have the same similar Pittsburgh hard defense, aggressive defense, run the ball first. Quarterback is not who you need to be a superstar. If he is, you win Super Bowls. If he's not, you barely make the playoffs. But that's been their history. Yeah, the Bears have always been, except for 85, has been. Why Like that's?

Joseph M Lenard: 38:28

the Bears? Yeah well, the Lions. I was going to say about the Lions the biggest lie. We've had some good coaches and some good front office people. We've had some great players come through, but it's always been the penalties at the worst time, give the other team an extended run or we got fourth and one dumb penalty. It's now fourth and six got to punt. It Changes the game.

Charles Thompson: 38:58

And that is literally front office down. It's called being disciplined. You've got to hold everybody accountable. In an organization, in a country, everything. Everybody's got got to be held accountable and everybody's got to do their job. And when they don't do their job, that's when you get mistakes. And when you get those mistakes, that's what everybody pays for.

Joseph M Lenard: 39:13

That's the perfect place to wrap it up and kind of put a bow on it, brought it back to the beginning. Great, I was thinking how am I to bring it back, reel it in, because we got so far down a rabbit hole this show normally doesn't go down, so if people want to find you, how can they reach?

Charles Thompson: 39:36

out to you. On X it's TheCharlieTruth. On Facebook it's Charles Thompson. My YouTube is where I'm trying to do a lot more videos, because then I can produce them there, because it's easy to produce and I don't do anything but really like this where you're behind me in my room and then I can put them on X, I can put them on Facebook. I do have other social media. I am trying to get a blue ski account in the next little bit because I've got to reach everybody. It doesn't matter what side of the political spectrum. I got to reach everybody because I keep telling everybody I'm the guy you want, because I'll be the people's president. I'll actually do it right. I you know I ran for Congress and lost a couple of years ago, you know. And then when I got to start off.

Charles Thompson: 40:13

Yeah, yeah, I ran the campaign of a lady that went all the way through the general election. I did a full campaign manager and I have no experience and no schooling. And I did the whole thing in a congressional election for me and then again for somebody else, so I got two congressional elections under my belt as a, as a campaign strategist and campaign you know and a you know campaign manager and I don't even have an expertise in it, but yet I know how to do it now, because I've done two full ones right, right and uh, oh, I forgot the other thing I was going to say to kind of wrap it up.

Joseph M Lenard: 40:43

but indeed, oh, I know you mentioned Blue Sky or Sky Blue. I just created an account a few months ago too. I don't get it. I'm on 20 different platforms. I don't get why people want to limit themselves.

Charles Thompson: 41:04

I know. I think a lot of it is because some of these social media companies have claimed they're for free speech and they're not, and others actually are for free speech. I think there's the economics of them. Some of them pay more money for certain apps or this or that, depending on the amount of viewers and the amount of interaction you can get. I think there's a lot to it and people understand it's a way to make money. It's also a way to grab information for people and you can sell information for money so there's a lot of propaganda, absolutely, and there's a lot of like like.

Charles Thompson: 41:31

Do you trust elon musk holding an x? Because you know you see the things he lies about. You see the stuff he tells the truth about, but you don't know what's what, because it's just a jumble yeah, I'm.

Joseph M Lenard: 41:39

I'm still banned on x because I dare talk about Tesla vehicle fires and his SpaceX government grant monies. Those are inconvenient things. He doesn't want talked about.

Charles Thompson: 41:54

If he doesn't want to talk about it, that means he doesn't really want free speech. He wants his speech free, not everybody else's.

Joseph M Lenard: 41:59

That's not freedom of speech.

Charles Thompson: 42:01

I think, that's why we're seeing so many is because people have done so many different things and now they're going well, I just don't want to hear this negativity or this lie or this or that and so they basically put themselves in a box Echo chamber Exactly and now you're just repeating what they tell you. You're not even learning because you're not taking in alternative information. In learning, because you're not taking in alternative information and, as I said, I take alternate information from every side, but my key is to vet it, because I want the most actual, honest information so I can make the most honest integrity decision, integral decision, so that I can make a better person, make a better society.

Joseph M Lenard: 42:38

Alright, well, we've run long. I do that. I talk a lot, you know it's like, like I say, I don't like to learn a lot about my guests, because then it's a natural conversation. But indeed I've had only one show where I thought, oh my god, this guy is so boring. If people tune into this show they're never gonna listen to me again. But beyond that, normally I could talk with you and other guests for three hours, but it would be too long and I've been on something that lasted that long.

Charles Thompson: 43:16

I'm not gonna lie. I've been on some two, three hour podcasts where I'm just we talked that long I was on a show.

Joseph M Lenard: 43:22

It was the guy's very first podcast he did. You know I'll go on anybody's show if they want to talk to me about something, right, and we talked for four hours. By the end of that, I'm sure not even his family was tuned in anymore, right? Anyway, indeed we've gone way long. So thank you, charles Thompson, for coming. Charlie, it says on your Zoom there.

Charles Thompson: 43:54

Yeah, I go by Charlie.

Joseph M Lenard: 43:55

Yeah, those seeing on BitChup writing on Dailymotion Rumble or YouTube behind the scenes. Sneak peek video Charles Charlie Thompson, thank you, take care. God bless brother.

Charles Thompson: 44:09

You too man.

Joseph M Lenard: 44:10

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