CTP (S3EJunSpecial6) Mental Health in Modern Schools

CTP (S3EJunSpecial6) Mental Health in Modern Schools
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Terry Brinston, CEO of the Nurturing Wellness Group Foundation, shares her insights about the critical shortage of school nurses and the mental health crisis facing students today. We explore how technology addiction, lack of moral foundations, and diminished community connections are creating unprecedented challenges for young people.
• Only about 35% of schools have dedicated nurses on staff
• Many medical responsibilities fall to untrained administrative staff
• Students today face more health issues than previous generations including asthma, diabetes, and allergies
• Phone addiction in schools is creating serious attention problems and social isolation
• The "my truth" perspective has eroded shared values and made it difficult to establish boundaries
• Young people struggle with resilience and giving up too easily when faced with challenges 
• Small acts of kindness benefit both the giver and receiver's mental health
• Building community connections and practicing gratitude can help combat isolation
• Teaching young people to volunteer helps develop empathy and appreciation
Visit Terry's websites at myschoolnurseco.com and terrybrinston.com

Chapters

• 0:38 Introduction to Terry Brimston
• 5:33 The Nurturing Wellness Group Foundation
• 11:12 School Nurses: A Critical Missing Resource
• 15:43 Mental Health Crisis in Schools
• 23:57 Technology Addiction and Social Isolation
• 37:35 Foundation Crisis and Moral Relativism
• 47:22 Building Resilience and Gratitude
• 51:40 Closing Thoughts and Resources

Transcript

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CTP (S3EJunSpecial6) Mental Health in Modern Schools
Exploring more of the world of fascinating Guests, Health, Human Nature, Music / Movies, Mysterious, Politics, Social Issues, and much more    
Terry Brinston, CEO of the Nurturing Wellness Group Foundation, shares her insights about the critical shortage of school nurses and the mental health crisis facing students today. We explore how technology addiction, lack of moral foundations, and diminished community connections are creating unprecedented challenges for young people.
• Only about 35% of schools have dedicated nurses on staff
• Many medical responsibilities fall to untrained administrative staff
• Students today face more health issues than previous generations including asthma, diabetes, and allergies
• Phone addiction in schools is creating serious attention problems and social isolation
• The "my truth" perspective has eroded shared values and made it difficult to establish boundaries
• Young people struggle with resilience and giving up too easily when faced with challenges 
• Small acts of kindness benefit both the giver and receiver's mental health
• Building community connections and practicing gratitude can help combat isolation
• Teaching young people to volunteer helps develop empathy and appreciation
Visit Terry's websites at myschoolnurse.co and terrybrinston.com  
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Welcome to ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast aka CTP in association with TheLibertyBeacon.com and I am your host Joseph M Lenard and that's L E N A R D   CTP is your no muss no fuss just me you And occasional guest type podcast as Graham Norton would say let's get on with the show 

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JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):   Welcome to the show, Terri.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Thank you so much for having me. I look forward to speaking with you today.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And you're associated with my school nurse program and nursing health, I can't talk, nursing wellness group foundation, yes?
TERRI BRINSTON:  Nurturing wellness group foundation. What did I say? Worsing. I'm not going to do that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  It's like I say to my audience, you know, you get what you get with me. I'm not here hiding anything. Worsing all. Here it is.
TERRI BRINSTON:  I appreciate it.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. First, I guess, the proverbial background information, right? Where were you born and raised and all that kind of stuff? Where are you now?
TERRI BRINSTON:  Okay. All right. So, I grew up in Michigan. So, I've been here all my life. So, I grew up in Inkster, Michigan. And I went to Robishaw at high school in Dearborn Heights. And so, that's been my upbringing and my roots are from there. I currently live in Romulus, Romulus, Michigan. And definitely love my community. And so, I've been working as a nurse and a teacher for over 26 years. So, I'm a pediatric nurse. And I know people when I see I'm a nurse and a teacher, a pediatric nurse. So, I work with young people in a high school setting and I help them to get connected to the medical field. So, I teach them introduction to the medical field and basic information that they need. So, we're trying to build up our healthcare system because I need to retire soon. And so, I get us some, you know, get us some retirement to get some gym people working. And I've also, I'm a pediatric nurse, like I said, and a business owner. I'm busy. I get really bored real quick. So, I got a lot going on. So, I'm the CEO of the Nurturing Wellness Group Foundation, which is a nonprofit. We work with young people, young adults, who are struggling with thriving. We also work with schools and we help them to connect them to different resources, mental health resources, so that they can be productive citizens. And so, and I also work for schools and I help them to get their policies and procedures. So, I'm so busy. But one of the things I do is that youth are in the center of my mission and everything that I do has a direct impact to helping young people to thrive, to making sure that they have a safe environment in our school systems. And so, that's, that's who I am.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  That sounds good. And for those who don't know, Romulus is where Metro Detroit Metro Airport is. There is a city airport in the Detroit city limits, but the main airport is actually downriver. In my backyard. Yeah. You enjoy all that plane noise going on all the time.
TERRI BRINSTON:  I don't hear the plane noise. They don't fly over my house. Thank goodness. But, but yeah, it's very convenient. So if you ever travel or leave out, you know, everybody calls me to pick them up at the airport and, you know, they'll park their car at my house. So that makes it fun. I get to see people when they're leaving and coming back.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So, yeah, what noise you would normally get there, you've kind of acclimated to it and you don't even really pay any attention to it.
TERRI BRINSTON:  No, they don't fly over my house. They, they come in from another direction. So they don't really, when we hear, we hear a plane flying over, it's, it's very, it's not a normal occurrence. When I lived in, in Easter, we heard it all the time, but I don't, I don't hear anything.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So you were on one of the main runway kind of main path lies right over Inkster. Yes.
TERRI BRINSTON:  That was not good. But yeah, where I met now, I don't, I'm closer to the airport, but I don't hear anything.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, I often hear that a lot of people who like railroad tracks are always from me. I hear trains every once in a while, but not very much. But, you know, people with like apartments right on the tracks, a lot of times they'll say, I, I never pay any attention to them. Never hear them. It's like their, their hearing has adjusted to the point where like weed sat out.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Absolutely. Yeah. I, I, that's funny you say that because working in the school system, I never hear the bales. You know, and it's like the kids are get up and they're like on their way out the class and they're like, I'm like, where are you going? You're like this president, the bell just rang. So I was like, so I know exactly what you're talking about.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, that same kind of thing, right? Selective hearing, I guess. Yeah, and I keep wanting to change the nurturing to nourishing. That's, that's where the hang up with me is right now. It's like, no, you don't have anything to do with the lunch program.
TERRI BRINSTON:  No.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  That kids, you almost always are complaining about. I, I did show. I don't remember the guest name now offhand, but we did go into that. It's like. A, a pizza burger thing every day isn't good, but like when Michelle Obama. Give her an A plus for intention, but in results, she gets an F because. Kids were just, if they're throwing it out every day and they're getting nothing whatsoever in them because they refuse to eat what you insist they got to eat. That's not good either, right?
TERRI BRINSTON:  That's funny. You say that because, you know, I've been working in education for a while and I've seen that transition and now no lie. During that time, I can't remember the name of the program that she implemented, but during that time when Michelle Obama implemented, you know, the program where we had to really look at the nutritional impact and the benefits of the program. The impact and the vending machines and all of that stuff. I promise you, we saw a difference, a difference in the weight and the energy level of our students. We at me as a teacher, I saw the difference and, you know, they're not, they drank more water because the vending machines had, you know, it didn't have pop or anything like that in it, but it did have a lot of water in it. And so healthier choices as far as their snacks. So I did see a difference in the energy level and the weight. I can say that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And now we're now we're back to everybody needs those and pick because everybody's obese again.
TERRI BRINSTON:  You know, we can't win for losing.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Everything seems to cycle. It's that pendulum swing. We go way overboard one way, then we go way overboard back the other way and. Can't wait.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah, it's always something and just hold your breath. It'll come right right back around again. We tried something different and now we want something else. Yeah, it's it becomes a little discouraging. Absolutely. But yeah, yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And the biggest problem with different programs are is that when you try to make everything a one size fits all in that Martin Luther King, Jr. content of character individualism society. It doesn't work.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah. Yeah. Everything is everything is not for everybody. You know, you definitely have to look and see what what works for that particular community or what works for that particular school. That's what I do with my school nurse is we go into the school system and we look at their population. We look and see what types of medical issues are the children dealing with. And then we provide a we call it a care plan for the school to kind of help to make sure that they are compliant with state and federal requirements for the school. So, for example, you know, what percentage of schools do you think have school nurses?
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I would hope almost all of them would, but yeah, probably very few.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah, probably like about 35% of schools have school nurses. And so a lot of people I talk to a lot of parents and they're like, you know, who sees your child when they get sick and they'll say, oh, the nurse and no, well, find out if your school has a nurse. A lot of times that that role is being delegated to the secretary. And our secretaries are being worked just so hard, you know, now some schools, you know, they have like a part time nurse or maybe they may have a nurse that comes over and reviews their, you know, their charts and different things like that. But some schools, they don't have anything. Right. And so what we do is we go into the school systems and we help them to make sure that they have the right policies. In place, we make sure that they have the right training for their staff. And we also see if they need medical support because you have a lot of kids. There's, you know, these kids get sick. You know, we, we know, we didn't get this sick. I don't remember, you know, being in public school and, you know, being sick all the time. You know, kids are their bones are breaking. And again, we see so many, so many fractures and asthma and diabetes and allergic reactions. And so these young people are going back to our diets again, always processed food.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I'm a big believer in everything in moderation, but the problem is that they're eating McDonald's every day. That's not healthy, obviously.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Absolutely. You know, that used to be a luxury for us. You know, now it's a luxury because it's so darn expensive. But, you know, we are not eating right. And we're, you know, we have a lot of, a lot of our kids are just dealing with so many medical issues. And then they're in our school from what seven o'clock until three things happen. They have asthma attacks. They have allergic reactions. They may be dealing with, you know, the first time a child really recognizes that they are the parent, recognizes that they have some type of disorder. They're usually at school, you know. And so we have to get that support. And so what we do with my school nurse is we provide that support for schools who don't have school nurses. So we bridge that gap. And sometimes they may want to subcontract us to come in and be a nurse or sometimes they just may want us to provide the training and, you know, make sure that they're compliant with state and federal laws so that they don't get in trouble. Right. What I do with that with that company.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Well, we, you briefly mentioned mental health before. And that's kind of really the road. I want to go down now. It's like, I was talking with someone else earlier today. Right. These. They're just, you know, so how about socializing with people there so self isolated. It seems even now way outside of the Wuhan hysteria where obviously during the lockdown phases, even when they don't have to be locked down, they almost self isolate. And that's not healthy.
TERRI BRINSTON:  No, it's not. And this is a, this is a major problem. And I don't think it's a new problem. I just think we've, we've started to shine the light on it. There's definitely has escalated and gotten worse because of COVID. But it was a problem. We really never addressed our mental health. And I think that was one benefit of COVID that it did shine a light on this issue. And so people are really paying attention to that. And the phone usage and our school system is horrible. You write kids are, they're addicted to their phones. And they believe that they can multitask and they can't, you know, but they believe that they can. And so it is a major problem. And I truly believe and to further address that issue is our schools are a lot of our schools don't have the resource to support the mental health health of our young people. Right. So we, we don't have enough counselors. We don't have enough social workers. You know, and, and so it really, it really is a horrible issue. And that's another thing. What we do through the nurturing wellness group foundation. We subcontract counselors and social workers. And we, everything that's dealing with medical connection, like a wrap around support services for our youth. But first we get in there to seek what they need because some schools may not need it. And it's because we know that it's not one size fit all. So we go in there and we evaluate and see, do, you know, would your, will your kids benefit from having mental health support through counselors and setting policies in place? We look at, okay, you know, we look at these test scores. And it's like, okay, well, one thing we can do is ban the phones in the school, you know, make them turn them off. You know, while you're sitting in class, let's turn our phones off. And so, you know, for a while there, you know, we couldn't say teachers couldn't, could not take the phones from the students, you know, the, the, you know, they had to have their phones.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  But, you know, that to me is the lazy parenting, right? If way back when we used to, if we were sick or whatever, if there was a deal where you needed something for whatever reason, a parent could call into the school and the school could send someone to the school room. Right? There isn't a need to have these literally chained around their net 24 seven. If they're sick, they go to the office. They used to be these things called pay phones. Right? And we all managed to seem to work okay without that feather 24 seven before.
TERRI BRINSTON:  But the technology has become like a crutch. Oh, absolutely. I definitely agree with you 100%. We are the fast food generation. We want everything right now. Right? And so with that said, you know, we, you know, we got to have things instant, taintously. And so, you know, when I want my son or I want my daughter, it's much easier from the cinema text because I know they can't. They can't get their phone on their lap regardless of they're in the classroom. I just think that, you know, we, it's, you know, I don't want to throw it on all just parents. I just think our society has embraced this quick, fast fix. And we just gravitate to it, you know, I don't think we really realize the impact that it has having that phone. You know, it's like, I can't tell you how many times I'm repeating myself. Or I just said something and someone to raise their head and say, ask me this. The exact question that I just answered. And it's like, it's because you're distracted, you know, and so it's, it's a big, it's a big issue. And it needs to be addressed. And, you know, even with AI coming on the scene as well, you know, You know, going to get worse. Yeah. To get worse because, you know, although there's many, many benefits for AI and I talked to my friends about this all the time. Yes, you know, it's very beneficial for people like you. You know, you've lived your life. You have experiences and you, you know, you can put your questions in there with some life experiences connected to it. But can you imagine if you haven't had any life experiences? And so you have, you know, I don't know, it's a crutch to that's that's something that I that I that's my soapbox.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, they have no life experience. There is no wisdom whatsoever having come with the age because they haven't aged really at all yet. And they're so bombarded by everything with it. And like I used to say as a former IT guy. So I've seen this abuse get worse and worse. And now not only is it that no, no more than I can't get my thought together. I won't get my mouth to get it out. The brain and the mouth aren't cooperating today. But never before in the course of human history have we had access to so much truth in fact. But at the same time, never before in human history have we had so much access to delusion and what people prefer. They feed themselves to feed their delusion rather than be truth seekers. And that becomes a problem. This my truth idiocy. No facts or facts, evidence is evidence reality is reality. Delusion is a mental health problem.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Good point. Good point. Everybody has their own truth. So if everybody has their own truth, then what's true? Yeah, we're in that time. And that is definitely a challenge. I'm sure, especially with the young adults that my company works with because, you know, when everybody has their truth, it's very difficult to set boundaries. It's very difficult to understand what integrity is because integrity is what I think it is. You know, it's not doing the right thing when no one is watching and being a person of your word. And so it definitely is a struggle, I'm sure, for the parents out there because have so many blurred lines in our society.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  We've almost, like I say, pendulum swings, right? Like in the 60s, we had the hippie. If it feels good, do it. That was kind of almost my truth time too. But that gave way to the Jesus revolution because then people say, well, if everything is relative, there are no values and principles. Everybody's questions on morality is fluid. There's no basis in any commonality of morality, it seems again now. Again, we're back to if it feels good, hey, it's my truth to heck with reality.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Right. And you know, that's that's very interesting that you said that because one of the projects, a few of my students, young people that I work with, they came up with is the impact of decentralized desensitalization, you know, that we're so desensitized by these images and, you know, by, you know, war and hunger and shootings and different things like that. And it's again, because 24 seven, it's right there. It's a fingertips. Yeah. It's not just the nightly news seeing it anymore. Right. Right. Absolutely. And it has a major impact. I mean, people don't realize that it actually restructures your brain. You know, there's there's some restructuring going down, you know, going happening to your brain and your ability to truly your fight and flight response. So there's some, you know, it plays a major part in how our society is developing and our brain health. And we just think, well, you know, we see these things, you know, you think about like even, you know, school shootings, you know, when school shootings first started to see it in the news. And everybody would just, you know, just ruin your day and you're just everybody's upset. Now it's like, Oh, there was another school shooting. You know, it's on the 20th page in the newspaper, no longer on the first page, you know, and we may hear a little see the little ribbon at the bottom of the news. Saying that this shooting occurred. You know, it's in this is our society becoming desensitized to these major issues in our community. Yeah. So, and I, one of the things.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, that I want to go back to lazy parenting again, too. Well, allowing these kids to be consumed in these first person player video games was fast and death and destruction. And right again, the desensitization of any commonality of acceptance of norms of like I talk about pen of pen and teller, you know, the magician comedian group team. He's a famous devout atheist. And a lot of atheists generally are anti religious, even though I dare say it takes more of a belief that everything somehow miraculously came out of nothing. It does that there is a creator to things. So I dare say, sorry, you're it's a face. Your atheism is everybody's face as any other religion. But he isn't one of those anti religious types. And he understands it says, I don't care where the law comes down from, whether it be morality from the Bible. No, it's just being a good citizen, a member of society that I don't get to steal your stuff. You don't get to steal my stuff. Right? I don't get to murder whomever I choose. And if somebody so chooses, they don't just get to the side. They get to murder me. These are good things, regardless of the how and where we derive them as to a structured, workable society.
TERRI BRINSTON:  And we're losing a lot of that. Well, I mean, to your point, it's because there's no, no foundation to where those things come from. You know, me, I'm a Christian. And so I believe that those foundational things have to come from somewhere. You know, it can't, we can't pick and choose, you know, what's good and what's bad. And then that becomes, okay, it's my opinion. It's what I feel that's right or wrong. And so that that's one of the things that I love to teach my young people is that you have to have integrity. You know, if you have a belief system, if you believe in price, if you believe in God and the Bible, then that's the foundation of your good. You know, it's not based on what the world says is good. It's based on what God says is good. And so, you know, and that's, I don't know if we want to go there, but you know, that's one of the things that, you know, as, as what's good.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  You know, why are we measuring ourselves to? Yeah, and that's why I think why aseism has become more and more attractive. Again, with the, if it feels good society, and my own truth, and I don't want anyone or anything to potentially be my boss, right? They are their own God and whatever they want to go goes.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Right. Right. And yeah, and when we, as a society, don't know where the good is or the foundation is, you know, it's just like, you know, we're building our house on sinking sand. It's not going to sustain when we do that. And so we have to have a foundation. And that's one of the things that we do with our nurturing wellness group foundation is we deal with that setting that foundation, helping them understand. Well, what is your core? What is your foundation? It cannot be whatever feels good because it's not. That can vary from one minute to the next. Absolutely. Right. When the wind blows, this is what I'm doing. And when the wind stops, this is what I'm doing. And so, you know, that's not sustainable. And this is why, you know, our, you know, I mean, yeah, I enjoy playing video games, but to what in.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. As a temporary escape because we do all need occasional break from reality. That's great. But you touched on the key word there. Sustainable. We are going to completely destroy everything. And on this planet. But yet, at the same time in a way, it's off to deepen the other hand, other way that there is planet worship and survival of the planet that's been here along before we were here and we'll be here long after we're gone. But somehow putting Bambi and Sumper over human life. There's no valuing there. It's like with forest management and the refusal to do it. I was on a show just the other day. You know what upsets Bambi and Sumper more than you going in and clearing a little brush and creating fire breaks so we can have less acreage burning. It's being burnt to a crisp. By a fire, you allowed happen because you didn't want to upset Bambi, but instead you killed them way to go climate worshiper. So, you know, it's again the my truth, but because I feel so good about that I'm protecting Bambi and Sumper. But the reality if you use logic and reason and thought rather than feelings you recognize, I'm really putting them in more harm's way than I am in protecting them. But it's again that instant gratification, but my feelings then.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah, I hear you definitely. That's definitely not my area of expertise. But I do say that, you know, we do have things in place. There's best practice. There's things that has been tested and proven. And, you know, sometimes we just, I don't know, we ignore good common sense. You know, and, you know, everything, you know, there's, there's always a better way of doing things. And, you know, that's one thing that I do when I work with schools and it's like, okay, I'm not reinventing the wheel. We know it works and we know it doesn't work. You know, what's the definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a better, you know, a better. Yeah. So, you know, there's, there's resources. There's, you know, studies. There's things that we know as a society and as a community. But we sometimes out of whatever, we don't, we ignore those things.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  In the name of wanting to avoid abuse, we ignore the spare the rod spoil, the child lifelong human nature understanding. You can't discipline a child, it seems, anymore in school for any reason. And we have so many people out of control because of it, because they have no boundaries. Because unfortunately, it is indeed true. Some people go overboard the other way and get abusive. So there's not always really a 100% right or wrong. We're human. We're going to make mistakes. But it bothers me when there are some who just refuse to want a bother to try. It's like, yeah, whatever.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah, as long as I could show up and collect my paycheck, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think that sometimes the reality of the problems becomes so humongous that it's very, it's very, you know, consuming to think that, oh, this problem is so big. I don't even, you know, I don't even want to attempt to address it. But, you know, if we really recognize that the, you know, how do you eat? You know, what visit an elephant eaten a, how do you eat an elephant one bite at a time? You know, and I think with that our society has really lost their, they, we don't have resilience. You know, it's very difficult for us to bounce back when we have a struggle or we fail. You know, we want that instant gratification and not we've lost our ability to really have that no quit in us. You know what I'm saying? You know, we just, we just like, oh, it didn't work. So hey, you know, let's go into something different. You know, we've lost that as a society and that's, you know, and, you know, and that's why I hate to, you know, blame me. And that's why I hate to be a part of the parents because we've lost it because we've made very bad decisions. So we're at that, we're at that state right now where it's like, okay, we need to start making better decisions. And how do you make a better decision is to be grounded in a better foundation.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And bottom line to me is that we continue and that's where our Christian faith helps and comes in. We are to want to be our brothers keeper. We are to care for one another. And we seemingly go on from far too many people saying if at first you don't succeed, try, try again because I care and I want to make a difference to the first you don't succeed. Give up.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with that. And, you know, and that's part of that. You know, when you really look, when we really, you know, settle down and look at society, there's a lot of great people in this world. But we never really focus on it. You know, we, the bad apples get all the pressure. Get all of the play. And so when you think about there's so much harm that, you know, happens when we don't showcase the good people in our society, you know what I'm saying, you know, giving and, and caring and, you know, and so it really, this is what this is what we need to do as parents. If I can give any advice for our parents is we need to show our children how to be citizens. You know, we need to care. We need to take them to, to, you know, food pantries. We need them to volunteer. We need them to see a world other than their own so that they can have more gratitude for the things that they have. You know, having.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Oh, there's a major lack of that. And then this nation of abundance. We've said it several. Why do I get and why didn't I get it yesterday? Right? I don't want it now. Why didn't I get it yesterday rather than any graciousness, any gratefulness for the abundance we've got. No, it's I demand and expect and entitled to more. Yeah.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah, fully. And that's, I think I, you know, this is my opinion, but I think that if we as a society, not only as parents, but, you know, neighbors, people in our community, you know, when you see, I give an example of my neighbor is just amazing. Our, my husband and I, we work a lot. And so a lot of times we're not home on trash day. And, but when we pull at our driveway, our trash can is in by our house. You know, he, he recognizes, you know, our schedule and, you know, he'll come and, and help us, you know, with the, with the yard. We have a little, little, same.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  But, and that's part of the problem here is to, we're so used to the grandiose. We lose sight of all those little things that can make such a big difference. Now you being in Michigan also like me. So you're used to winter Ontario Canada. So I know you probably remember the artists and Murray. The singer, right? Do you remember her song? We could all use a little good news today. I, I think it's time. If you've never heard that song, maybe go to YouTube after this and look up and Murray could use a little good news because indeed we are so busy dwelling on negatives
TERRI BRINSTON:  that it's poisoning our own mind, hearts and souls. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. I think that that self care. We're, we're all seeking that self care those manicures and going for a walk and eating well, you need to add being kind, having a spirit of gratitude. Doing something for your neighbor, volunteering, being being a neighbor, getting, you know, it amazes me when I grew up and I'm sure you're the same way. I knew everybody on my street, you know, I knew, you know, they used to tell me to stop running or stop, you know, they would, they could, they could chastise me as much as my parents did, you know, but now it's like, you know, you ask people, you know, where do you live or who lives on your street?
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And it's like, they have no idea, you know, that's because we're all again isolated in our own little kingdoms and systems and yeah, it's a shame.
TERRI BRINSTON:  So it happened, it happened before the cell phone, you know what I'm saying, but it definitely escalated after that. And so I think that it's so easy to, you know, to blame parents, but it's the problem is so much bigger.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, and you don't have to be religious, even though this is obviously a Christian based show. You don't like pen, you don't have to be religious to understand the concept of karma, right? If you wonder why you're always getting negative back, look yourself in the mirror. Are you putting good out in the world? You put out good, you'll get some good back. But if you're negative now, we all the time, why are you surprised that you're so down in the dumps all the time because you're negative and you're surrounded by other like negative people?
TERRI BRINSTON:  Right. One truth with that. I did an exercise with some of the kids that I worked with and I had them to write down, think about one person that they're just so grateful for. You know, it could be anything. Maybe, you know, they did something for you or they just played a major role or they were just nice to you and I had them to kind of write down what they did and who that person was and let them, you know, spend a lot of time on just a couple of years. And a lot of time on just really getting connected with what this person did for them. And then I said, okay, you got your person and you wrote it down. And I said, okay, call that person and read that letter. You know, read what you wrote. And, you know, then afterwards, we kind of, before we did it, I asked them, well, you know, and I got this idea from one of, like a show. I can't remember the project that I was watching. So I don't want to take all the credit for it. And so they, we, we measured their mood before they did it, the activity. And then we measured their mood after they made that phone call. And so we think as a society, we think that doing good is only going to benefit the other person. And it doesn't. It benefits you. You know, doing good and serving other people, you know, and like you were saying, if you're being negative all the time and you're negative to me towards you.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  For your own mental health. Right. You are going to get back what you're projecting. And if you want positive for yourself, put some positive out there. All right. Well, I like to joke all the time too. Right. Things are always so serious. We got to keep a sense of humor. So I'm joking here. You are such a horrible gas. I don't know why anyone will want to get a hold of you. But it's a joke, people. It's a joke. Just plant. And we light it up, please. But indeed, do you have a website where people can reach out to you?
TERRI BRINSTON:  Sure. You could reach me at my school nurse.co. And that is for my business where I work with schools. You also reach me at Terry Brinston dot co. Dot com. I'm sorry. Terry Brinston dot com. And that's my personal website. I'm a speaker. I'm an author. And so I like to, you know, speak of different companies.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I was going to wrap it up. That's usually the wrap up question. But yeah. Those are at least mentioned a couple of your books.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Yeah. Well, you know what? I've written several books, but one of the books that I would like to highlight is grateful for the journey. Surviving COVID-19. I was a victim of COVID-19. And so I wrote a, actually I'm just really quick. I'll tell you this quick story. I was on a ventilator and I was in the hospital for a month. And so I lost a lot of my memory. And so when I came home, of course, I was, you know, struggling with figuring out my life. And my counselor had me to journal. And through that process, my husband told me to have it published. And so this is the publication of me rediscovering myself.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. So you were definitely one of the ones who really got hit by, like I had the Wuhan hysteria four different times. I've remecked in HQS. Even though I have immune problems, they got me over in like a couple of weeks time, whereas like others with healthy bodies. I've remecked in and they were over like three, four days. It took me a couple of weeks, but I do know others indeed. And with the, like with the Jabs, the side effects, I know someone who has myocarditis now, never had any issues before. Has that now? I do know of Lisa Ewald, a fellow nurse here in the Down River area had asthma issues. So she had the comorbidity thing. And indeed, when it hit her, it hit her heart and it killed her. It wasn't really the disease. It was the complications. The asthma complicate, the Wuhan complicating the asthma to a point where she literally drowned in her own fluids, you know? And I know one other person, William Hartman also, he started on Ivermectin, was getting better. The hospital said, nope, we refuse to give that. We have to give whatever else, not even going to mention the drug. They put him on that, continued decline. On ventilator died. Whereas other medications were working for him because even though we all share a lot of similar DNA, each patient can react differently to different things, different medications, right? Why there are so many different cold for a very simple analogy concept, right? So many varieties of those medications, what may work for one, isn't guaranteed to work for the other, right?
TERRI BRINSTON:  Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. It was, yeah, we have just, my heart goes out to all the people who lost loved ones during that time. I got COVID in the very beginning, like in, in May. No, I'm sorry, in March, at the very beginning. So anyway, so yeah, check out my book. You can read me, uh, TerryBrenston.com and.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, they can live it, live it all. How you lived it through your book. That's the wonders of books. Absolutely.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Absolutely. All right. Well, so much for having me. I appreciate it.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Thank you, Terry, for coming by. Uh, like I say, I never script shows and I never quite imagined we'd go all the areas we did. But I'm just that guy, whatever rabbit hole opens. Hey, dive head first. Absolutely.
TERRI BRINSTON:  I love it. I love it. So I, I enjoy myself. All right.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Take care. God bless Terry.
TERRI BRINSTON:  Well, take care. Bye bye 



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