CTP (S3EJunSpecial7) Faith, Freedom, and Finding Your Voice

CTP (S3EJunSpecial7) Faith, Freedom, and Finding Your Voice
Exploring more of the world of fascinating Guests, Health, Human Nature, Music / Movies, Mysterious, Politics, Social Issues, and much more  
Xavier, an 18-year-old from Chicago with a Catholic background, shares his journey of political awakening and how COVID restrictions sparked his curiosity about government control and personal freedoms.
• Born and raised in Chicago with a Catholic upbringing that shaped his early worldview
• COVID vaccine mandates and restrictions became a turning point in his political awareness
• Growing up in left-leaning Chicago initially influenced his political perspectives until he began his own research
• The concept of "bread and circus" – how governments use distractions to maintain control over populations
• Social media functioning as modern society's biggest distraction and tool for speech control
• Cancel culture and how those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant
• Educational experiences that seemed more focused on indoctrination than critical thinking
• The importance of debate and open dialogue versus insult-based arguments
• How younger generations are becoming more inquisitive about power structures and government control  

Chapters

• 0:38 Meeting Xavier: Today's Young Guest
• 8:00 Catholic Upbringing and Religious Identity
• 16:34 COVID Mandates and Political Awakening
• 22:21 The Nature of God and Morality
• 31:06 Media Control and Freedom of Speech
• 41:28 School Indoctrination vs. Free Thinking
• 47:33 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Transcript

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CTP (S3EJunSpecial7) Faith, Freedom, and Finding Your Voice
Exploring more of the world of fascinating Guests, Health, Human Nature, Music / Movies, Mysterious, Politics, Social Issues, and much more  
Xavier, an 18-year-old from Chicago with a Catholic background, shares his journey of political awakening and how COVID restrictions sparked his curiosity about government control and personal freedoms.
• Born and raised in Chicago with a Catholic upbringing that shaped his early worldview
• COVID vaccine mandates and restrictions became a turning point in his political awareness
• Growing up in left-leaning Chicago initially influenced his political perspectives until he began his own research
• The concept of "bread and circus" – how governments use distractions to maintain control over populations
• Social media functioning as modern society's biggest distraction and tool for speech control
• Cancel culture and how those who preach tolerance are often the least tolerant
• Educational experiences that seemed more focused on indoctrination than critical thinking
• The importance of debate and open dialogue versus insult-based arguments
• How younger generations are becoming more inquisitive about power structures and government control  
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[ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast begin Show intro]

Welcome to ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast aka CTP in association with TheLibertyBeacon.com and I am your host Joseph M Lenard and that's L E N A R D   CTP is your no muss no fuss just me you And occasional guest type podcast as Graham Norton would say let's get on with the show 

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JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):   Today with me is Xavier. We'll get to him in a second, but I want to do a bit of setup for those who, this may be your first show. It's not that I'm a lazy host, well, yeah, actually I am kind of lazy, but I don't want to know much about my guests, you know, unlike Savage Dun filtered when I am jokester Joe over there, I prepare and look into the guests here. I don't want to know a lot about the guests. I want to know next to nothing. So I discovered them, just as you discover them. So let me read the only thing I know about Xavier is this one sentence had a Catholic life upbringing and can definitely share those experiences, well, two sentences. The next I am also heavily into politics and have been following along with the current geopolitics. So he fits right in with Chrystitutul's politics. Now, I also was born and raised Catholic, but like I say, this is not a Catholic show. It's not a Lutheran show, a Presbyterian show, a Baptist show, whatever, whatever, whatever your brand or flavor is because it's about what can we all as Christians come together on in agreement because we argue as different sex that's S E C T S not S E X, right? Of course, for the benefit of the transcript to get that right. If we argue Satan wins, not Christ. So with that, welcome to the show, Xavier. How are you today? Great. How are you? I'm good. You said a razor headset?
XAVIER MEZA:  It's a headset I've had since I was like a freshman in high school. So it's the only way I could talk to you. So yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. I use a razor gamer headset. It's about the best I could find without spending a thousand bucks. I'm on disability. I don't have that kind of money for just a headset to do a show. But anyway, that's already a rabbit hole. Not worthy of going down that we've kind of done already. So first, where were you born and raised and where are you now? That kind of background stuff.
XAVIER MEZA:  Well, I was born in Chicago.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Oh, no, no, not Bulls territory.
XAVIER MEZA:  Oh, yeah, Bulls territory. Pretty close actually. Pretty close to where the Bulls play. Yeah, I was born there. I still live here. So yeah, I live. So yeah, when you mentioned the Bulls, I live pretty close to the Bulls where they are. So yeah. But yeah, I've been here in Chicago all the time. I live here my whole life. I barely travel. So yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, I've been to half of our 50 states. But I'm born and raised in southeast Michigan, a southern suburb downriver, we call it a Detroit. Yeah, I'm born and raised here. And although I hate the winners, I choose to stay. You know, so I've been other places, but like you, hey, you know, this is where I was born. This is where I was raised. Yeah. You know people, you got your friends, you got your family and all that. So moving is an upheaval. So like me, you decided, hey, I'm staying here.
XAVIER MEZA:  Well, yeah, I'm still pretty young. I'm only 18 years old. So I mean, I didn't realize you were that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I thought you were in your mid 20s. I didn't realize you were only 18.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. So yeah, but I definitely do want to move though. Oh, do you?
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I would love to be able to move to Vegas. I love, you know, although people have this. Miss no more. The desert gets cold at night people. It's not a hundred degrees all the time, but it's still better than being here in Michigan. I thought I'd love to move, but no, I stay, especially now that I'm 60 to old set my waves. I'm staying here. I'm not going, but yeah, you so I'm great. Me not knowing you're only 18. This is great. Another show I've had. Puck who was just turning 18. I had Christopher Stephen Armstrong on who's also in his low 20s. So this is great. Another meeting of the zoomers to boomers generation discussion.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Sounds great. Awesome.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So not to pick on you, but since you have very little life experience, it's just a joke, people just I, you know, he could have gone through a heck of a lot in his 18 years that I never did in my 62 years. So I'm not passing the judgment. It's just a joke. We as generations have to better communicate and come together and have meetings of the mind. So I really appreciate you being here. And well, I, what was kind of your motivation for reaching out to the constitutionalist politics show?
XAVIER MEZA:  I don't know. It's super, super interesting. I watched a little bit or I listened to a little bit of what you already had. It just seemed really interesting. You see it. You yourself seem really interesting. You look like you're out there. Well, extroverted, you know, that sounds awesome. It seems like it would be super interesting to talk to you and just learn a little bit.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. Well, I pride myself in this not being the traditional. I wrote a book, Terror Strikes Coming Soon to a City Near You. It is a Christian book. But on terrorism, so obviously it's not your normal fluffy traditional kind of Christian book. And I tried to pride myself in this show also not being the proverbial, oh, be people over the head with the Bible. Oh, uptight Christian, right? Yeah. It's got to break that stereotype. So I appreciate what you said there. Let's do that rabbit hole. Fellow Christians you run into again, being Catholic. Do you run into that divide of a Lutheran and my grandfather was Luther and he became Catholic to marry my grandmother. But that divide you run into a Baptist who I like to say, hey, with all the twerking and all that crap going on, called dance now. They were kind of right in the footloose movie about the whole dancing is three sex kind of thing, right? But we've got to come together on things we can agree with rather than things that divide in so many people. Fellow Christians. Do you run into that or indeed uptight and oh, oh, my version. Of the Bible says X, yours says it. Why they're saying the same things, but yet they insist on arguing.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, right now, a lot of people I hang out, I would argue they're more atheist kind. I would argue they're more they don't. It's kind of just like up there. They don't really think about it that much for like religion purposes. People I do run into that are heavily into the religion are mainly Muslim. And I don't really know much about the religion. So I couldn't explain, but yeah, I'm not really super. Can't like even myself just I guess if you if I would consider myself Catholic, I don't even know much about the Bible myself. I know my dad was super into it. He would read all the time. He would tell me about certain scriptures and stuff like that. But even me myself, like I've I've let it. It hasn't been heavily, especially later in my life. It hasn't been heavily put in, but it been instilled in me. So especially when I stop because the reason I even got brought into Catholicism was my mom putting me into Saturday classes. So I was just coming like an hour half every Saturday and eventually I got confirmed. And ever since then, I mean, I barely began to church. It's just kind of fell off from there. So it's been.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, well, I'm glad you said that because a building that happens to have a steeple on it doesn't really make it a church of God. There's a whole lot of wokest worldly churches that are just humanist clubs. Now, so I see that a lot with indeed the younger generation I run into. They've had some Christian background in some form and it's indeed formed and shaped their lives, but they consider themselves more spiritual rather than wanting to cling to a title or a label attached to them. That's kind of you and you see that among your peers then.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. For sure. I definitely, I will say I agree with you when you say it's become more of like a human club kind of thing. I mean, there's a lot of like, I've heard a lot of people talk about like, oh, like a woman becoming a priest is not something that like sticks to traditionalism or like asking for donations in a church of money is a root of all evil kind of thing. I've heard you come.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Oh, I am so glad you said that because I had a conversation with a 22 year old just the other day. About that. The Bible doesn't say money is the root of all evil. It says the love of money is the root of evil. It's the greed. It's the sloth. It's the hubris that are the sins. Money is a needed tool in society, but craving only that and you're right. I'd say it all the time. A lot of the churches have only also become about money laundering, keeping say anything from the pulpit, whether it's biblical or not, to keep fannies in the pew and the dollars coming in. Yeah, for sure.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I think that's turning off a lot of younger people who would be Christian otherwise.
XAVIER MEZA:  I mean, I think it's more than that. I just don't think a lot of people, especially just around me, that it's not heavily regarded upon a lot of kids my age like to go around and like party and stuff like that. They like to drink. They like to do. Hey, it's part of youth.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  It's part of youth. I'm not going to be here and be a liar and say, I didn't do all that when I was young too. I did. I also like to say, you know who Penn of Penn and teller, the magician comedy team is? No. Okay. Oh, well, they've got a Vegas act there. They've got an internship in Vegas now. Great. Oh, they're hilarious. They're great magicians, but pen is a renowned atheist. Unlike a lot of atheists, he's not anti-Christian, right? He recognizes that whether I drive the notion, you don't get to kill me and I don't get to kill you from the Bible or him just saying, it's just plain sensible good being social. And I don't get to steal your stuff. You don't get to steal mine. However, you come to it from an atheist standpoint or a Christian standpoint, that's good. So he's an idol of mine, even though he's not Christian. You can be a good moral person without that again, to use the word label attached.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yes. Yeah. I also, I remember hearing somewhere that in some experiment, there was like, I think naturally just as humans, we're all born with a moral sense. I remember it was some experiment. It was like they showed video to babies of just like things that would, that would just like to us as adults would like make us seem sad or something. That's just like, oh, that's horrible, you know, and like babies would start crying after seeing it. And these are like newborns and it was, it was like a philosophical thing where it's like, oh, we're all, we were born with a moral sense. And that's even before you even understand what religion is. So I thought it was definitely interesting.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I'm glad you said that. That's good. Right. Part of the nature DNA versus nurture argument, because you mentioned philosophy, right? Those, the endless argument of how much of what we are and become is nature and how much is nurture. Yeah, for sure.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah, it's a, it's interesting conversation. There was a, I think I thought, saw it on the debate. It was just two people to ban it. Like whether or not God was real. And it was like science, they were putting science and can science prove that God is real can know like mysteries. Oh, yeah, I know I can't.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Well, we can prove archeologically like I passed a record that I know was an archeologist. We can seek out and prove Solomon and Gomorrah existed. We could seek out and prove the biblical locations that then lend credence to the Bible and therefore God. But science also cannot produce evolution. It's a macro, micro macro thing. They can't create free, more deal soup and all of a sudden a fish pops out. So Darwinism and the theory of evolution is just that a theory science can't prove that either. God can talk about our physics because he created them at the natural laws, but science can't necessarily explain God. God can explain the big bang. But atheism to me is a religion to believe everything miraculously came out of nothingness is as big of a face and leap of belief as God created it. What are your thoughts on that?
XAVIER MEZA:  I'm glad you meant I was about to mention the big bang theory because I know that it was created in the 1500s and 1600s by a Catholic priest I think. Which is always a juxtaposition, ironic that a Catholic priest, someone who believed in Catholicism, would think of the big bang theory which is now considered an atheist thing to believe in now.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  But again, not really when you think about it because again, God spoke it into existence. God created. God caused the big bang. So again, God can explain the big bang. The big bang can't explain God. Does that make any sense?
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah, it's very, you're picking my brain right now.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Well, hey, yeah, like I said, I don't script shows. We just go where the rabbit holes lead and it's a great opportunity for me to indeed challenge you as a younger person and get your reactions. And then hopefully all your friends tune into the show and see what hell I put you through. For the benefit of the transcript, that was a joke. We're laughing. Okay.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yep. Awesome.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  And that's the other thing again, I said, like, I don't want this to be an uptight Bible sumper show, right? Yeah. We've got to keep a sense to who we're all we're all going. Woo hoo, coo, coo, coo, coo, and that cocoa puffs, right? Yeah.
XAVIER MEZA:  A little too crazy sometimes.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So you mentioned partying. Uh, shots of Jack used to be my, uh, uh, bad pleasure. What, what's yours?
XAVIER MEZA:  I don't, I mean, look, the legal reasons I can't necessarily say it. Right.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Right. Oh, yeah. Is it Illinois? Yeah. Most states are right. Yeah. Legally now at the laws, the legal drinking ages 21, uh, if you go over to Canada, though, like me being in Detroit growing up, we always used to go over to Canada because the drinking age was 19 there. So yeah, or Ohio, we would drive to Ohio. It was legal to sell what was called the weak beer, what they would call it and sell it as today is non-alcoholic beer.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So hey, you can have as many, uh, fake beers as you like.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Something like that. I think I have to now. Yeah. Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. Yeah. For legal reasons, indeed, we don't want you making any admissions that the local law enforcement made and that the right, but we all know what goes on in dorm rooms. But now to pull it back to faith or to pivot to the politics side, because again, this show is called constitutional politics, biblical community, free will. We are to want to be our brothers keeper versus leftist communism, which is theft, redistribution force. Do you with your Catholic upbringing, have you really thought about that dichotomy of between biblical community and leftist force theft communism? Um, I will say put you on the spot again.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. That's okay. That's okay. Um, I think before I was definitely more left leaning when I was younger, but I think it was just because I live in Chicago, Chicago is a left leaning city. Um, technically Illinois is a great state.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Nature, nature, nature again. Yep.
XAVIER MEZA:  Here pressure. Yeah. I was just kind of, yeah, I mean, again, I was younger, so I didn't really care. I was just like, Oh, what about everyone else around me believe? But that's like grew older, especially like with COVID COVID. I was just the vaccines, the whole mask thing. I just, I hated all of that. And that's what really got me into politics in the first place. I was like, what is going on up there? What is this? What are they doing? What are they doing that I have to wear my mask wherever I go and they want me to put whatever kind of sod in my arm? Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Where's that choice? Yeah. Right. And these aren't vaccines. They are flu shots. They don't make you immune to anything. A vaccine is mumps measles polio. They make 99.9% of people who get the vaccine immune. Mm.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Big difference there, right? Yeah. And you recognize that.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah, I didn't get my back. I did get a vaccine. I only got one. I never got like boosted shot or anything. But that was just so I could have the cards so I could like go and do anything. Like I remember going trying to go.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  But again, there's there's that communism again. Of course. Of course. Yeah. And if it wasn't real vaccine and it made the person who got it immune, you not having it would not be a threat to them. But they kept exposing the lie. It was just a flu shot. It didn't make anyone immune to anything and it became a compliance thing, a power thing, a control thing. Again, communism force.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yep. Yeah. I think. Yeah. No, you spot on with that is what I was saying was I remember going to the movie, trying to go to move my with my friend and they're like, Oh, you need a vaccine card to come in. And I was like, that's unbelievable. And I think that's that's I think that's why I got in the first place. I was like, Oh, I want to go hang out with my friends again. And like you said, yeah, it's funny too, because they call it liberalism. It's like left leaning and liberal supposed to mean freedom, but doesn't even it's not even well related like that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. Dennis Prager talk show host corrected me. I used to say you can lead a liberal to the facts, but you can't make them think that shouldn't be the word liberal, because real classical liberals can be talked to and reasoned with, but an ultra ideal on Tommy Fashi, so she left us cannot be reasoned with all about the feelings and their desire to be a have a sense of superiority over all others. So you said the Vax card, you were extorted. You were coerced again, communism force. It almost equates being a Catholic. Well, anyone being a Christian, most the Bibles talk of the mark of the beast, right? In order to do anything you had to have that mark of the beast, that card. Did that connection, did that ever make the connection for you or was that I could tell you got it at least subconsciously? Was it a conscious connection to you?
XAVIER MEZA:  It's only a constant, conscious thought now recently, because at the time it was like, there's so much going on, you didn't really think about it. It was just like, just do it get it over with. I think now it's like, and the rest of the world's waking up too. The rest of the world's like, yeah, that was stupid. Why did we do it like this? People didn't need a shot in my arm. I remember even getting that shot and I would get sick constantly after that too. I remember every two months I would get sick. Just like I remember before I'd barely ever get sick. It's almost like it was weakening me. That's kind of how it felt almost.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Of course, a regular flu shot is usually fairly safe. The side effects are fairly benign. Pain at the shot, a slight fever maybe for a while as your body processes, the dead cells of the virus to try to make you immune, but doesn't always work. As opposed to the Wuhan hysteria jabs, that the side effects far outweigh any benefit. I know all kinds of people now perfectly healthy before the jab now have heart problems.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Yeah, it's almost too much of a coincidence.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Oh, it's beyond the ability to be a coincidence. That before them, this was the rate. After them, the rate's doubled. The cause and effect is pretty clear and studies are actually showing that now, even those who produce. I like to make a distinction. I did because our mother had dementia. So I got the Johnson and Johnson traditional shot, egg based dead cells. My sister, unfortunately, got one of the two mRNA experimental vaccine shots. And indeed, guess what? Last month, she was in the hospital for her heart surgery. Coincidence. I really don't think so. Because so many others I hear all of a sudden, personally healthy heart issues all of a sudden. Mm hmm.
XAVIER MEZA:  It's yeah, that's the yeah, to go back to what we were originally talking about, that's really what changed kind of my whole thought process of how government just works in general. You know, before when you growing up, you don't government's not everybody really talks about it. Nobody wants to teach politics to really young kids. So which is fine because it's a very corrupt system. It's not something you want to really get your kids into until it starts affecting them more often. But that's kind of nice to start changing my mind and just like, oh, what's yeah, what's my government doing? And also just I always I was born into thinking like the right the conservatives, the traditional lists were always the bad guy. That's kind of what I grew up into because again, I was born in Chicago. That's just how that's just how it was around here. So when I started doing, watching my own videos, I guess doing my own research, I started realizing this is a two sided story. Yeah, younger age too.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. And as the saying goes, this show is exactly the opposite. What I'm no doubt you heard the saying, don't talk about religion or politics. And the reason a lot of people say that is because they don't want anyone to understand anything about religion and politics because then they can lead them around by the nose if they don't know anything. I can just tell you understand that now.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Now for sure. Yeah, it's it's it's scary. It's scary to think because they want to take religion away from you. So you can start believing them. They're almost like they're the religion now. It's almost like you're believing in them.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  That's exactly where I was going to go. You read my mind. We are of the same. The left again, not a classical liberal, but an ideological Tommy Fashy. So she that it's all about power and control. They want you to worship them as God. They want government to be your religion and your God. And clearly by your statement, you're waking up to that fact. You see that now.
XAVIER MEZA:  I know it's almost it's almost saved my life to understand that. I mean, I started exercising more and you know, naturally exercise is going to get you. You're going to you're going to I think like that's a man. I get more testosterone. I heard like if you have more testosterone, you're generally like right leaning. I heard that somewhere, but I just thought I'd mention that. But what I was saying was, you know, it clears your mind more. And then at the same time, that's when I want to learn more. So that's when I started I started fixing my own body. I just felt naturally like, yeah, there's something wrong with this. This is different. And it's it's more of just I mean, there's a lot of conspiracies like the deep state. I've heard is one of them stuff like that. But it's just it's so interesting. That's how and and the more the more I see about stuff about this, the more I want to look into it and just see what's really going on. It seems like all the boring details are the ones that you really want to listen to. Because that's where they don't want you to see. They keep it boring.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  So you don't look over here. Look over here. Don't look over there.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. No, you said exactly that that's great. They're becoming more awake, not woke, more inquisitive, more curious about indeed what they're trying to hide. They want if you heard the term bread and circus. No, not. Okay, that comes from the Roman era. The Caesars thought that in order to keep the people happy and done rebellious, right, keep them fed just enough to not want to revolt. That's the bright part and circuses the distractions. Again, look at that stuff that doesn't really affect your life. So you're not paying attention to what they're doing to you behind your back. That does really affect your life. Hence, the phrase bread and circus about politics. So I am glad you are indeed paying attention and more inquisitive. And I think a lot of younger people now are and like you, like you said, the whole lockdown thing. I thought we were a free country, but yet. Yeah. And so I've rambled a bit more than I normally do when I have a guest on that. So I apologize. So let me just turn over the floor to you. Okay. What's in your mind? What do you want to say? Where would you like to go? Put down the spot again.
XAVIER MEZA:  Honestly, your teacher, the bread and circus thing, that's really good to know. I feel like that's a good analogy. Well, I was thinking of as soon as you said that with social media, I think social media is the biggest distraction anyone could possibly get. The biggest circus around. Yeah. I mean, that's the easiest way to control for any kind of free speech. In fact, free speech was a big premise of the election this year. A lot of people were scared that, oh, you're going to get shut down. Oh, you're almost bought Twitter, that kind of thing.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. The cancel culture. Yeah. Shit. Yes. It was all about not honesty and reality. It was all about controlling speech so that they could sell propaganda and delusion and taking your free speech right against speaking against it.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. It's crazy how dangerous it's become for just people to want to be able to speak in general. I mean, I know there's certain words you can't say. I mean, the fact that you can even get banned on a social media platform is already just a violation of freedom of speech. I mean, yeah, there's hate speech as violent speech, but there's a difference in just what you should be able to say and what you can. And the fact that people can get banned. I mean, that's, I don't know. I've always, I've always like wrestled in my head because I know there's certain things you should not, you just in a moral reasoning, you shouldn't be able to say like, oh, I'm going to kill someone or something like that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  I'm like, like that's a whole other thing though. Yeah. Threats are illegal. Yeah. Hate speech. I'm glad you brought that up because the courts have ruled over and over that hate speech is protected speech. And frankly, I want neo-Nazi racists, whatever morons to tell me what they think. Then I know how to avoid their moronic selves. Right? The answer to speech is more speech.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree with that for sure. Just the baits too. I think a lot of people, I've been on, I've been on podcasts before where people were like, oh, I don't want, I don't want people to debate because they're just, they're just going to be arguing. It's going to be nonsense. I think, but just, I always feel like debates were a good thing as long as it doesn't get, it depends on the people. Like there's some people that will just yell at each other and just start insulting. It was just becoming an insult fight. But if you, if you keep it classy, you keep it reasonable. I think both people can come to a great consensus that they just work hard to make sure it's information based and not insult based. I never thought that was, but I've heard that they've been trying to, I mean, even like after the debates that happened this year with the election, they're trying to change the way it is because it just seems like it's just both like. Spin.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Spin. That's what leftism cancel culture is about protecting their spin and propaganda from you being able to rebut it. And indeed, try to shut off discussion. And if you have no discussion, you have no learning, you have no moving forward, you're stuck. The, those are in my mind, the most stupid people on the planet. And there is a difference. We are all ignorant of things we've yet to learn. Yeah. It's a choice to remain stupid.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. And I mean, yeah, they show, if you also, if you're able to start speaking about things that they don't want you to know, that also gives you a level of power too. I've seen a lot of influencers that are become like a lot of people that just say things that's normal people. It's like sounds absurd. But in a reality, there is some truth to what, what they say, there's some conspiracies. They say, I know there's a lot of people out there talking about like the Israel, um, the Israel Gaza situation that is all the anti-Semitism conspiracy.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. That's some conspiracy. There are conspiracies. That's why we have Rico laws to lock up people who engage in actual criminal conspiracies. Right? So that's another thing to shut people up and shut down discussion. If you say something they don't like, they want to label you a conspiracy theory. Yeah. The theorist, right? That's another part of the cancel culture. And you said it perfectly. Power and control. They don't want you to be empowered. They want their power and control over how you speak, when you can speak, where you can speak, what you can say. It's power and control. They want it over you. And I am so happy to see not just you, but so many young people. I've got an article on what the left keep pushing a generational shift is occurring because of it, because they so overreach and want their jack boot on your neck. It's natural that you would push back.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yes. Yeah. I will say I hear about that often. And honestly, just from what I've seen around me, I haven't really seen that much. I really haven't seen that many young people that have that same kind of curious mindset. In fact, usually when I mentioned politics, people are like, I'll just stop. Stop talking about it. So every time somebody says that, I'm like, I just don't see it. I'm always very interested. That's why I always wanted to talk to more people. That's why I always wanted to go on more podcasts like this to just see when more people are saying that I wouldn't necessarily say agree with me, but understand what's actually going on.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah. And you said it yourself. You've become more inquisitive now. Your eyes were opened. So now you're more inquisitive. A lot of people of every generation from zoomers to boomers, there are people who want again, difference between ignorant and stupid. They want their delusional bubble. They like their delusional bubble. They get to coast through life conveniently in their bubble. And they don't want it challenged again. That's why cancel cultures there to shut you up so they can keep their bubble.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah, it's a comfortable life being in that bubble. And as soon as you start going into uncomfortable life becomes completely different completely
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  changes. Yeah, there's a reason there's the phrase ignorance is bliss. Right. Yeah, I don't have to think. I don't want to think I just want to go through life with my feeling. So my God, you heard my feeling.
XAVIER MEZA:  That's so that's funny too, because they're always the ones they're. They're the least tolerant. Yeah, but they're also the ones that talk the most. They're the ones you hear about the most everywhere.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Yeah, the ones that try to preach tolerance are the least tolerant. Yeah. I'm no doubt. Excuse me, has it clear my throat there? OK. But in school, there's a reason they don't want history taught. They want people to be ignorant. Again, bread and circus. They can control you easier. But I'm sure you've heard about America's founding. E. Pluribus Unum. Yes.
XAVIER MEZA:  I've cannot say I've heard of that. No. Oh my God. Exactly. That's true.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  History is not taught America, a nation of legal migrants. E. Pluribus Unum. That's Latin for from many one. We all have not completely abandoned our other cultures, but we borrow and learn from each other's cultures to create our own American unique culture. If I were a son, Brero, it's not cultural appropriation. It's paying homage to my Mexican friends.
XAVIER MEZA:  I thought, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned school too. I think a lot of I had a I actually had a class called global politics, which
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  probably didn't cover much of it.
XAVIER MEZA:  It was it was more of it was more of like philosophy. It was like realism, liberalism, constructivism. That kind of those kind of things. But also I don't think that was really the most. I honestly think my English class is more political just talking because
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  teachers wanting to indoctrinate you.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yes. Yeah. Like the books we were reading were super feminist. They were. I remember one of the themes we had and just like naturally, just as a man, I just one of the themes was male delusion. And I found that so just like such an odd thing to talk about. Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  The toxic masculinity you see, right? We were built that way for a reason. Now being completely misogynistic all the time is a bad thing. I'm not saying that's a good thing. That's not what we're talking about here. But indeed they want to indoctrinate rather. They want to teach you what to think rather than how to think.
XAVIER MEZA:  Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They gave it. Yeah. It was like specific themes you would use for each book we'd read. It was it was less. I mean, obviously like you could come up with your own, but they would guide you towards the kind of things that they would want you to see. And I I realized that myself, I remember that we had like a last essay and it was just like reacting to your year. And I wrote I wrote like a letter to you're supposed to like write a letter to about some like theme or something. We discussed in one of the books. I wrote like a letter to male delusion. I was like, Oh, like how like this is such a weird cause. I don't even remember what I wrote, but it was just such a weird concept. And I don't know. It was just. And it's also like the structure of how you're supposed to write as is very specific. They wanted you to do it this specific way. Um, make sure you have this paragraph, but in real life, that's not how it is.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  In indoctrination, molding you to be one of their robots and we're not robots. We're human. We are given free will and a brain to think with. It's a shame. So many people refuse to use it.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Well, Xavier, thank you for coming by. The time is flown by. And I again, I apologize for speaking so much, not letting you speak enough in my opinion, but you triggered not in the, Oh, my God, you heard my feelings away, but you triggered responses and thoughts in me that it's like, I'm going to say it again.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah. No, I think I think I learned a couple of things from you for sure. So I was glad you were talking and talking for a little bit. So just young to be able to learn. Yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  Well, you have not heard of E. Pluribus Unum. So you need to check out my show about E. Pluribus Unum from many one versus the D. I bullshit, which is about separating and dividing, not bringing people together. You hadn't heard of bread and circus. I've got two shows on that. I hope you'll tune in for those and get your friends to tune into all these. Cause again, there's a reason why people don't want you taught these things.
XAVIER MEZA:  Yeah, for sure.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST):  All right. Well, thank you for stopping by. Take care of God bless.
XAVIER MEZA:  For us. You too. Have a great one.

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BONUS MATERIAL BELOW from:  TheLibertyBeacon "Bread and Circus (redux)" article   [See original piece at: https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/bread-and-circus-redux/ , for referenced links, images, and embedded videos.]







[ Mar. 30 2024 TheLibertyBeacon.com drop – 1,600ish words, 1 images, 4 videos CTP S1E41 ]

Bread and Circus (redux)…

First… #HeIsRisen Hoping you have a Blessed Easter weekend with Family… Beyond that…

“Bread and Circus” again? Yes, for a couple of reasons different from the last time a few weeks back… Don’t care about Football? This is not about you, but others, please keep reading…

As I’ve said before, here and on CTP podcast, things you’ll not get anywhere else. Think you’ve heard it all about this topic? WRONG, get ready for the parts you’ll not see/hear from anywhere/anyone else… As Paul Harvey used to say: “The Rest Of The Story…”
For Football Fans it is a momentous weekend as USFL and XFL merged into a new UFL (United Football League). No, not a return of the UFL, for those that remember the original UFL several years back; Denzel Washington’s Son played (brought the League a bit of notoriety and publicity, and he wasn’t a horrible Wide-Receiver) for the California team, owned by the Men’s Warehouse cheap-suits shop guy (hey, not knocking it/him, I shopped there, never afford uppity-uppity over-priced fashion designers/icons ones). Don’t care? Good, Great, that’s fine. But as I’ve written “Occasional Distractions Not Just OK, but Healthy” (yes, I’ll tune in – as “I” (and bet you, part of point of piece) not “consumed” by “Bread and Circus” 24x7 and way broach those that are). 
You are NOT going to be able to beat those sleep-walking through Life over the Head with latest Headlines in hopes of News-Blitz like News-boarding (play on Water-Boarding, because yes #MASSholes (Masses of Assholes) trying awaken them with Reality of things that will harm them (despite Ostrich impersonation, trying avoid) must do so “gently” - previously discussed TLB piece “Can Lead Leftist to Facts, but Cannot Make Them Think (part 1)” where I said “It may seem very odd, but dealing with people coming to grips with their Politics (as many things from a Psychological aspect) is like dealing with mourning. You’ve all heard it: Shock, Denial, Anger, and Acceptance (SDAA) phases of grief.”  
We’re FIGHTING FOR OUR LIVES (and even others don’t understand we are theirs) - you may need do things make you uncomfortable to position yourself to matter and make difference. Hang with “friends” you know clearly don’t get it, casually interject how “relieved” you are at chance to enjoy some “Bread and Circus” away from very depressing things going on – gently interject hoping that door opens to enter about such. If does, DON’T GO OVER-BOARD. Pushing hard, can just cause push-back. Offer to “send a link” (not this piece, they’ll be on to what you’re doing, but original “Bread and Circus” piece -  thelibertybeacon.com/bread-and-circus/) later in week that you’d “really appreciate them reading the article and let you know their thoughts afterward!” Or, if they’re visual, you think you might have better luck, send them link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earJ85Zwv4w) to my CTP Show on “Bread and Circus” Video instead.
Second, and this upsets me the most, some folks that have even used the “Bread and Circus” concept on Social-Media during the StuperBowl, were just as obnoxious as the #Swiftees all sudden caring about K. C. Chiefs football squad and were just as pathetic acting SNOWFLAKES hating on K. C. Chiefs just so they could be Haters and #AntiSwiftees. If you weren’t going to watch, just leave it at that but instead many had to “expose” their inner-Snowflake and whine endlessly about the #Swiftees. And some still are! Now I get some were just “having some FUN” with the situation, but betting you know some that indeed “lost their minds” and acting every bit as badly as a Tweenager, non-thinking, non-principled, #TaylorDerangementSyndrome, Emotionally Hysterical, wrecks. Now, yes, I get, and more important, the Swift supports #BiDUMB (Women who got Rich selling suckers Music about her piss-poor choices in (now dating someone Left would normally label having “Toxic Masculinity,” no doubt you at least seen a clip of his (some “speculate”) Roid-Rage outburst at his Coach during StuperBowl; normally lack of any reasonable Judgement of Character constant gravitation regularly to weak, Emotionally unstable, Soy-Boy) Men, now trying to SELL another Loser Man (#BiDUMB) to them) memes (whole different, far more important situation); who himself looked enraged by “alleged” Drugged-up rage at fiction-filled State-Of-The-Union angry “Get Off My Lawn” like rantings of a Mad-Man (briefly discussed in “Tale Of Two National-Guard Deployments (NY/TX)” March 23rd TLB piece). 
It is NICE to finally see some people discover the “Bread and Circus” tactics used by tyrants after forever. HOWEVER, again, you are not likely to be able to SHAKE AWAKE the WOKE buffoons overnight. So, just here-and-there, we must SNEAK THINGS PAST THEIR DEFENSES with Humor or other methods to “drop” the “seed” of/about “Bread and Circus” and “try gently nudge them into curiosity about such” THEN when they “ask” and are open to the discussion go into such. Psychology over Centuries has discovered that sometimes the harder you push, the more resistance you’ll get back – so, be gentle, be subtle, in broaching topics like this (plant a seed, let it grow, overwatering KILLS PLANTS TOO, if you get my drift).
If you read and remember the original “Bread and Circus” piece from a few weeks ago, you can dip out here. Those who missed that piece, or if you’d forgotten that piece already (if you have, HOW DARE YOU? You should not just be reading my pieces but committing every line, every word, to memory to be able to recite to others! Yes, relax, JOKING. LOL), please keep reading… 
So let’s review we’re we’ve at TLB (not just me) touched upon this; a few times actually, and not just with/on TheLibertyBeacon but BeforeItsNews and even RedState/Townhall before this; but of late run across more folks that have no clue about what it is having come from the Roman days – keep the #MASSHOLES (Masses of Asses, you rubes, you dweebs, you Peasants) belly full enough and distracted so-as “comfortable enough” to ignore the Tyranny and be complacent and NOT REVOLT!


VIDEO (3m 50s): Bread and Circuses - What does it mean and where does it come from?:
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[Sub-section from “Only thing required for Evil to prevail” TLB piece (expanded/expounded upon a bit below)]

All that is required for Evil to prevail is for good peoples to do nothing! You’ve no doubt heard that quote already in some of its various paraphrased forms. [And sadly there are a whole lot of folks just sit on their Asses and DO NOTHING, consumed by the boob-tube after Work daily, and even more hours on weekends.]
If you are not familiar with the phrase: Bread and Circuses to appease the peasants, you’d better become acquainted with it quick (while the Left and FASCICRATS try to keep the masses distracted and they “Cloward and Piven” us toward Bankruptcy (especially the Social Security System in just next few years if not dealt with and as also discussed in the TLB “The Lefts Farcical Attempt to Influence the 2024 GOP Primary” piece).

When are you going to stop (well, again, point of this article, doing so in moderation OK, but I’m addressing the do nothing but sit around and WHINE crowd) watching the Circus distractions and get involved? Or you sitting idly (“You SHALL be Known by Your Fruits” or your IDLENESS to not Sow anything) by until there is no Bread at all to Eat from/with/in the “Bread and Circus” eventual collapse equation? 

As an aside and throw-back a couple weeks. Those who Virtue-Signal are NOT limited to those on the Left. Sadly many on the Right just sit around behind keyboards and also Virtue-Signal; knowing NOTHING of which they speak and engaging in Emotional Hysterics and DO SOMETHING (even if it makes things worse, not better) mentality; of course just about different things than those on the Left. They talk a great game online, but when it comes to doing something (You Shall Be Known By Your Fruits, not your Words and inaction is a choice/action that can/shall be Judged), be expected to actually bother to stand up and show up to do ANYTHING that would matter – they are nowhere to be found. Are you a Virtue-Signaling bullshit-artist? Or an actual do-er (One actually can be counted on to show up and be in the trenches for the Fight)?!?!


VIDEO (10m 1s): Know Nothing Snowflakes, on both the Right and the Left We must Educate:
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Hopefully too you recall this being “touched on” in brief sub-section of “Occasional Distractions Not Just OK But Healthy” piece.
 
[image source: TheLibertyBeacon]

This also goes back to education and the UnConstitutional “Department of Education” and the Federal Tyrannical control over such destroying States Rights let-alone Parental/Local Rights in our Kids’ education. They push-down dumbing-down curriculum to try have pre-made Sheeple pre-occupied with anything and everything that matters little in Life so-as to keep any focus and pressure off the Ruling-Elites Class. Certainly want ZERO “Civics” and “History” (why it was replaced with Howard Zinn rewritten fantasy teachings as “Social-Studies).

 
[Sub-section from “ChristiTutionalist TM Politics” the book (Chapter 5. PROTECTING CHILDREN / SCHOOL REFORMS).]

In U. S. A. Indoctrination Factories (and other supposed FREE SOCIETY systems) are peddling Radicalism, Raunch/peRversion (pedophilia), Racism (cRt), anti-ameRicanism – the new “R’s” – to our entitled/lazy, participation tRophy overblown self-esteem buffoons, know nothing brats; meanwhile China is teaching their Children the traditional “R’s” of Reading, wRiting, aRithmetic, histoRy, scRience (see what I did there, because some kids are so dumbed down they wouldn’t know the “R” doesn’t belong in there (and indeed also as I mentioned elsewhere I cannot avoid bad/lame attempts at humor/puns to “lighten” the mood at times during these very serious subject discussions)), biRology (not fake gendeRism), honoR, Respect, woRk-ethic, etc…

The Michigan Panthers needed a lot of moves to be better than last couple years - still likely have best chance at a Championship Banner in the Ford Field rafters than the Detroit Lions. 😊 Hey, Lions Won Division, a goal that was unobtainable for decades prior, so there is that. LOL 



VIDEO (23m 25s): CTP S1E35 Bread and Circuses BTS/SP Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=earJ85Zwv4w    x
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VIDEO (3m 45s): Wash It All Away (Five Finger Death Punch):
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BONUS MATERIAL ABOVE from:  TheLibertyBeacon "Bread and Circus (redux)" article   [See original piece at: https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/bread-and-circus-redux/ , for referenced links, images, and embedded videos.]