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CTP (S3EAugSpecial1) Overcoming Anxiety: Biblical Truth and Metaphysical Solutions w/ Deb Higgins
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We explore the nature of anxiety disorders and effective treatments combining biblical wisdom with practical metaphysical techniques. Deborah Higgins shares her personal journey from agoraphobia to becoming a mental health professional and author.
• Agoraphobia explained as fear of panic attacks rather than fear of open spaces
• How visualization therapy and progressive relaxation can overcome anxiety disorders
• The physiological mechanisms behind panic attacks and why they feel like heart attacks
• Biblical perspectives on anxiety in what Billy Graham called "the age of anxiety"
• The importance of meditation, proper breathing techniques, and positive affirmations
• When medication is appropriate in anxiety treatment and when alternatives work better
• How humor and laughter contribute to resilience during difficult circumstances
• Deborah's forthcoming book under pen name Elizabeth Connolly and supplemental workbook
Check out Deborah's book "A Cure for Anxiety: Biblical Truths and Metaphysical Practices to Overcome Anxiety, Panic, Social Anxiety and Agoraphobia" by Elizabeth Connolly, with a workbook coming soon under Deborah Higgins.
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CTP (S3EAugSpecial1) Overcoming Anxiety: Biblical Truth and Metaphysical Solutions w/ Deb Higgins
Exploring more of the world of fascinating Guests, Health, Human Nature, Music / Movies, Mysterious, Politics, Social Issues, and much more
We explore the nature of anxiety disorders and effective treatments combining biblical wisdom with practical metaphysical techniques. Deborah Higgins shares her personal journey from agoraphobia to becoming a mental health professional and author.
• Agoraphobia explained as fear of panic attacks rather than fear of open spaces
• How visualization therapy and progressive relaxation can overcome anxiety disorders
• The physiological mechanisms behind panic attacks and why they feel like heart attacks
• Biblical perspectives on anxiety in what Billy Graham called "the age of anxiety"
• The importance of meditation, proper breathing techniques, and positive affirmations
• When medication is appropriate in anxiety treatment and when alternatives work better
• How humor and laughter contribute to resilience during difficult circumstances
• Deborah's forthcoming book under pen name Elizabeth Connolly and supplemental workbook
Check out Deborah's book "A Cure for Anxiety: Biblical Truths and Metaphysical Practices to Overcome Anxiety, Panic, Social Anxiety and Agoraphobia" by Elizabeth Connolly, with a workbook coming soon under Deborah Higgins.
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Welcome to ChristiTutionalist Politics podcast aka CTP in association with TheLibertyBeacon.com and I am your host Joseph M Lenard and that's L E N A R D CTP is your no muss no fuss just me you And occasional guest type podcast as Graham Norton would say let's get on with the show
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JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): If you're viewing behind the scenes, I have no idea why I look fuzzy. Let me toggle my video. There we go, alright, yeah, today is a day for computer problems apparently. So, at any rate, joining me today is Deborah Higgins. First thing I want to ask is I've also invited a Carolyn Dowd Higgins on any relation that you know?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): No, no, no, no, no, no.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): But today is Deborah Higgins and I reached out to her because in the summary on my notes here, it says how to cure anxiety, biblical truths and mystical practices. So, I'm game for that discussion.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I think it's metaphysical practices actually, and it's metaphysical practices to overcome anxiety, panic, social anxiety and agoraphobia.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Okay, before we really... Oh, okay, why did it say I was muted there for a second? Okay, right. If I was muted, I'm back. I have no idea what's going on. I can hear you. Okay, good to know. Before we get into the details of that, let's do the usual nitty-gritty stuff of where were you born, where were you raised, where are you now, those sorts of things?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Okay, I'd love to talk about that. I was born in Baltimore in the hospital there, but my parents brought me up in Towson, which is a northern suburb of Baltimore, and just went to public school, you know, there. Now, I got agoraphobia when I was young, and agoraphobia for people who don't know what that is, and I don't know, do you know what that is?
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): No, no. I've heard the term, but I don't remember what it is.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Well, in what? There's a dictionary, they say agoraphobia is fear of the marketplace. It's not really fear of the marketplace. It's fear of panic. It's fear of the panic attacks that you might have if you go someplace and you have a panic attack, you're afraid to go that place again. So you leave that place out of your places that you can go. Then you go another place, and you have another panic attack, and the panic attack is so frightening that you don't want to go there again. So your world begins to get smaller and smaller and smaller until you finally get so that you can't go out at all.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): They become a shut in, then.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Shut in, yeah. And that's what happened to me when I was in ninth grade. Unfortunately, my mother had some alcohol problems, and I was always afraid of what was going to happen when I came home. So I began to get agoraphobic, and I stayed in school. I stayed in my house for a whole year and didn't go to school. But it was actually good in a way because I didn't have to go through the road or to go through the regular schooling that my other classmates did. I read the Bible and I read as many books as I could, and I watched every old movie there was.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): So you kind of had an unofficial homeschooling that year?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I had an unofficial homeschooling exactly right. And it was a good homeschooling. Finally, it took a while for the treatment. I had a psychiatrist that would come and come to my house, and he would go in my father's office and we would sit there, and he would do a progressive relaxation exercise so that I became very relaxed to the point where I was hypnotized.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Almost like a meditation type thing. Because I've recently had somebody on talking about the tenets of Buddhism. You don't have to accept Buddhism as a faith, but as a philosophy, it's a good thing. Medication is a good thing. But most people associate with the old one.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I know. It was all sorts of strange mystical things, but it's not. It's one of God's tools that he gave us to make ourselves relax. And he took me on these imaginary journeys where I would get in the school bus in my imagination, and I would sit in there and he'd take me through the streets and we'd finally get to the classroom, and then he'd have me sit in the classroom. Now, this is all in my mind as I'm doing his visualization. And eventually, he did that so often that when my grandfather passed away, I had to go to his funeral, and it was the first place that I went, because I really wanted to go. It was the first place that I went when I got out of my aquifobia. So fortunately, I got out of it. I was able to go to school, and things got better from then on.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Oh, it makes perfect sense that those mental exercises would indeed be basic. Right? I forget the saying, right? Imagine it. Do it. Right. Right. Yeah.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): You're working for it.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): If you can imagine it, you can do it. And you're helping yourself to be able to do it so that it, obviously, some things unexpected may happen that you didn't imagine in the scenario, but you're at least better prepared to be out in society.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Yes. Exactly right. I still had trouble going like long distances by myself. So I, you know, I'm still working on that even to this day. I still have to do, I do in my book, I wrote a book called, you know, we talked about it. And the book has exercises in it. There are meditation exercises that teach you how to breathe correctly so you don't get the panic attack.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Yeah. Go ahead for the benefit of the audience. Do you have a copy of the book to hold up or just get the title?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): They just published it. They're, I, this is funny. They, they're setting me 20 copies and they do it on a FedEx ground. But I said, but I'm a prime mentor, a prime member of Amazon. If I order the book, I can get it by Monday. And they said, well, I guess so. But I did. That's what I did. I ordered the book. So I'm waiting for it now.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Yeah. Depending if it's been generally published through Ingram sparks. Yeah. They could sell you if you're buying cop. But if you publish your Kindle path, ADP, the Amazon Kindle direct publishing services, prime doesn't qualify for author copies.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I have a barn. Bob Boa is the person who published my, my book. And it's even though it's self published, they helped me to do the cover and all that. Absolutely. It was, I was, Bobo, they, they do these things like give you the 200 books and, and that's a great blessing because there are publicity agencies out there, marketing agencies that helped me get the word out. You, you, you do a book and then you never know who's going to read it or how to get the word out to get people to read it. So that becomes a real.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): I, one of my books is how to write a book and get it published hints, tips and techniques. Right. From, from story conception to actual writing development, publishing options, including self or I say assisted publishing like you did. And yeah, you're not done marketing promotion, social media, all that. Because there's a million books on how to put your book on Amazon. You can read the help files for that. Right. But it was lacking a how to write a book and you let published tips, tips, techniques. So I did that. So you're finding out all these things. Indeed. I cover all those things. It's inexpensive Kindle version, but I suggest the paper version. I'm a, I'm a paper person. Yeah, you're going to want to dog ear. You're going to want to highlight. You're going to want to put post it's in it. That's a book you need in paper form, but you never did give your book title yet. What is it?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Okay. A cure for anxiety, biblical truths and metaphysical practices to overcome anxiety, panic, social anxiety and agoraphobia.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Yeah. Now I normally would wait till the end and that do you have a website? Do you have a website yet for that? I go into that in the book too, obviously, like a big deal.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): One for you. They have a website they're working on. Oh. That's supposed to be coming out in a week. So they did everything. They're doing everything's little slowly, but that's okay. I can.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): We know the URL for the site. It's just not up it, but by the time this will air, it will be.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I have the ISBN number.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): No, that's the ISBN number for the book. Do you have the URL to put in the browser to get to the site, even though it's not there?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): You can get to my site by going to Deb K Higgins coaching.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Okay.
None: Okay.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Okay. We'll put that in the show notes then.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Okay. No need in the right place. You'll eventually get everything. Yeah. Put the ISBN number up there too, so it'll be easier for people to instead of writing out that law.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): I also have a couple articles, tinyurl.com. I'll send you these links, tinyurl.com slash write and publish supplement and write and publish supplement too. I don't go into ESPN's and the book, but I do in the article. Are you giving a LCCN number, a library of Congress control number that makes your book eligible for libraries?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Yeah, they did do that.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): They're doing that for you. Okay.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): That's good. Libraries is a good way to go. That's also a therapist's office because I got my masters in social work. When I was 62, I decided to go and finish up a masters and I did it in mental health so that I can learn about all of this and learn about the social anxiety and the other types of anxieties that I didn't have. The anxiety that I had has helped me a lot to write the book because because I used the very things that I tell my readers to do. For example, in the biblical part of the book, I talk about how Billy Graham said that this is the age of anxiety instead of being relaxed about things. We're all tight.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Up tight about a lot of things. I agree. I'm going to say again, by the time this airs, that other side will be up and all that. I'm kind of just accidentally catching a state of flux here as we're recording.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): It's okay. I'm very comfortable. Your guests feel very comfortable. I don't know if people know that on the other side. Until you've just said it.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Thank you so much for saying that. Obviously, I try to pride the show as indeed not being an uptight show. No. I try to engage in humor a lot during the show to make people comfortable because no matter how anxiety I suffer from it, I've got a prescription for Xanax over there. I only take as rarely needed because there was a two-year period I was on it twice a day all day every day. I know he opioid withdrawal nonsense to go through. I am never going to put myself through that again, but I have it for those odd days that I really, really am feeling jittery physically and needed.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I'm not going to have to. Even when I tell my readers that you don't usually use medication, there are times where there are times in the gap when you haven't been able to meditate and you have to go somewhere. You just don't have too much anxiety to do it. It's okay to take a tranquilizer to get you through that hump, so to speak. You can do a lot with meditation. You can do a lot with visualization. What manifestation is, is affirmations. You hear about people saying, you know, I am a reflection of God. I'm able to do this in whichever way God finds it right for me to do. Also, it's a very good affirmations as you can tell yourself that will help you as you're doing the things that you need to do. The thing about a panic attack is it's really frightening. This is one thing I like to convey as much as possible. People feel their heart beating really fast and they don't understand what it is. It's really the, there's a little piece of your brain. It's called the amygdala. It sends messages to the hypo-salmist. I can never say this word. It's not about this. Anyway, it sends me.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Yeah, I can't wait to see how the AI transcript transcriber tries to interpret what you just said. Who knows? That'll probably come out like baby gibberish.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): But the hypo-salmist, it sends messages to that and it'll trigger your adrenaline and nor perephrine. And these are the two things that will start you to sweat. It'll start you to, it'll start your heart beating really fast. It'll have your hands sweat. You'll get dizzy. You might get disoriented. One of the biggest fears people have when they have these anxiety attacks is that somebody will see them. That they'll get embarrassed. But then they worry that they're having a heart attack. And I always say if you do have those symptoms, you should go to the hospital and you should find out whether or not you are having a heart attack. Because the experience is very, very similar. But as soon as you find out that it's a panic attack, then you don't have to worry about your heart and you can go and get my book. And you can go and get my book and you can meditate and you can do the things that you need to do.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Now, is the book authorship going to be under Deborah Higgins or Deb King Higgins?
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): That you can use that out. Thank you. It's not, I wrote this as a memoir and as a prescriptive book so that you can get something out of it, but also you can learn about my life. And because there are people in my life that did some rather interesting things. This is for their protection and mine. And I changed my name to Elizabeth Connolly. So my pen name is Elizabeth Connolly. And Elizabeth, I got from my mother's first name. And Connolly, I was sitting one day and I was looking over at my books, my bookshelf. And I saw Michael Connolly because I love all his books. And I decided that I was going to call myself Elizabeth Connolly.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): And is there an E.C.O.N.O.L.Y. or E.Y.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): It's a C.O.N.O.L.Y. So there's two L. Two L's. Okay. Two L's.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): All right. Thank you. Yeah. I don't script shows. We go where it goes. Right. And this is exactly why. Unfortunately, you know, this is only my third season. I've also co-hosted Savage, done filter, been with him for years. So I'm still learning. I don't always get it right either. I find. Actually. Invariably at the end of any episode, I'm like, Oh, why didn't I say that? Or why didn't I ask that? All right. But I certainly try. Thank you.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Because I sometimes forget about the pen name. I wasn't really excited about having a pen name because I knew that I wanted to do a workbook to supplement this book with nothing but exercises and nothing, not anything about my life really. So I wanted that to be in my name, Deborah Higgins. And that will not comes out, which will be another month or two. It will be under my name and it will be the workbook, but it will be the same title as my book. Only just workbook in front of it. Okay. So you'll look at that for you look for Deborah Higgins for that. And Elizabeth Conley for the other book.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): I hate to say you're confusing people. But indeed in how to write a book together published, that's I say everyone likely has stories in them and writing it whether you publish it or not is a whole other thing. The exercise of writing it as you said is cathartic for yourself. And if you publish it, you can help others.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Right. And I've gone through, you know, I had an alcoholic mother. I had unfortunately something I don't really agree with. I had an abortion and that was very traumatic. And I also, you know, I had a couple marriages. So I ended up with breast cancer and they say your sins will get you. And to tell you the truth, I'm.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): I'm a leukemia survivor. That's why I have the bald head. Here do I do when I became in 2010 and it came out and decided, oh, I'm going to save a ton on shampoo and conditioner and just shave it.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): So when I did, I had my hairdresser come to my house and I said, well, take this hair and I'll make the first cut. And then you go and you shave the rest of it. So we did that. And I told her, I said, what we could do that would be more fun is if you got in your convertible and we put the top down and we just let it blow off.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): The trying to make some sort of lemonade out of the lemons.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Yeah, you got to like, you know, laughter and humor is one of the most important things. I don't know if you know, Frank, or the writer that wrote how to survive or, you know, it's, I don't know, the exact title, but it's about survival. And he said that when he was in the camp, when they were loading the Jewish people on to the trains, that he looked for somebody that was last night. Because he wanted to get near that person because he knew that if he was with somebody that was in a still laughing about things that he would have a better chance of surviving. And I thought that was just so insightful.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): No matter how serious things get for our own sanity, finding humor in anything, any way you can to help distract from the seriousness going on around. It is good. Yes, for our own mental well being.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): Yes, it is. Yeah, definitely. I wish I could remember the name of that book because it's so famous. But it does. It's part of resiliency. And I think I got through a lot of the things that I went through in my childhood through that resiliency, that ability just pop up and back out of tragic circumstances. I still have metastatic breast cancer. And that's supposedly incurable. But I found it curable because I've decided that it's not going to get me. And so as far as I'm concerned, I'm cured.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): Okay. Thank you Deborah Hagan. Hagan. Deborah Higgins, aka Elizabeth Conley for coming on the show today. I appreciate it.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): I'm very, very appreciative of you having me here. And it's been fun. I didn't think it was fun. Yeah, like anxiety producing. Oh, yeah.
JOSEPH M LENARD (HOST): I don't want that because I deal with anxiety also. Yeah, I don't want nothing to do with that. I try to make it easy. Exactly. And like with any guest to go for three hours, but then when it's too long, I call it today's Twitter attention span. Nobody watches unless it's short. Thanks again. Take care.
DEB K HIGGINS (aka: Elizabeth Connolly): God bless you too.
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