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CTP (S3EAugSpecial4) Why Does America Need Healing?

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CTP (S3EAugSpecial4) Why Does America Need Healing?
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DPB returns to discuss his new song "American Strong," a heartfelt anthem calling Americans to find unity beyond political differences and heal our divided nation.
• Originally intended for release around election time but held back due to concerns about reception in a divided climate
• DPB explains how the song aims to remind Americans we can disagree without hating each other
• Discussion on how 15-year friendships are ending over political differences
• Both host and guest reflect on the importance of loving despite disagreements
• Exploration of how we are all one human race despite different cultures and appearances
• Lyrics highlight unity: "Yes, you are my brother, black, white, red, brown. Yes, we are one color"
• Conversation about judging actions rather than condemning people
• Reference to 2 Chronicles 7:14 as a blueprint for healing America
• Agreement that placing God back into American life would help restore unity
• The song will be available on all major platforms including Spotify
You can find more information about DPB and his music at WorldofDPB.com.
DPB gets a shout-out (for good reasons) in THE BOOK OF KENNEDY book - https://tinyurl.com/JLDonAMAZON  


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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, aka CTP. I am your host, joseph M Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. Ctp is your no-must, no-thrust, just-me-you-can-occasional-guest-type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. As Graham Norton would say, let's get on with the show. Hello everyone, welcome back to the show. Dpb and I say that slowly so I don't lexically screw it up because I still keep wanting to scramble the letters, no matter how many times I've already wanting to scramble the letters, no matter how many times I've already talked to you. It's like my brain just don't want to get that right for some reason. Dpb.

Speaker 2:

And everybody does it too. That's what makes it funny PDP and be confident. Like they said it, right too PDP, pdp.

Speaker 1:

You need a joke. You know Rick Springfield has an early song called Bruce where he jokes about people calling him Bruce Springsteen, you should do a joke song about people screwing up your name. Wow, that would be great it would be.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1:

That's funny yeah, look up springfield on youtube, bruce song, and get a feel, you know, because to me that's great, to have a sense of humor about oneself. So you doing that would, I mean, just elevate you to the stratosphere of elite people in my eyes that you already are. Take it to a whole nother level, that's good though I like that.

Speaker 2:

That's good though I like that.

Speaker 1:

At any rate, I will urge those tuning in if this is your first time seeing DPB on the show. He's been on twice, actually once regarding peer pressure during the end of February health weeks, and I did look up and write down when you were first on and I don't remember it was just about bringing positivity back to rap in general. I don't remember the episode or date for that. People should go back in the Christitutionals Politics catalog to get the whole nitty-gritty of the who you are, we're. We're gonna skip all that stuff your real name, david paul brooks, would you?

Speaker 1:

those seeing on the behind the scenes video could see in the corner of your video? Hence d DPB. But I barely remember DPB, let alone David Paul Brooks. But anyway, and now that I've repeated your name several times, hopefully it might sink into a few more people's brains, but you're here for American Strong. Not America Strong, but American Strong.

Speaker 2:

Not America Strong, but American Strong.

Speaker 1:

Another kind of personal. To me it almost seems like a very logical extension or next thing to peer pressure. Tell us what brought about American Strong.

Speaker 2:

Well, the thing was it was actually supposed to be released. It was done by time the election happened. But I felt like I was told and we also felt like that man, you know what the timing might be wrong because America wouldn't receive it correctly. America would not receive it correctly because of the division. And then memorial day, like after a while you get tired of like I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate the fact we are free and then some people who believe that we are free want to take it overboard and they were almost like want to bind us up as Americans, that we should be some way, and it's just like we just we have to learn to come together instead of fight all the time, instead of all these different divisions. It's never going to go nowhere because everybody's going to always think they're right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, right. Love rather than hate. Okay, you don't have to love me or even like me, but hating me Is a problem If you can't. And vice versa, I don't hate anyone. You know I may not agree with former President Biden, but I've said many times on social media Biden derangement syndrome, just like a Trump derangement syndrome, is there. If you cannot tell me one thing that you can appreciate and be willing to work on with. Biden, then look in your mirror.

Speaker 1:

You're part of these problems, this hyper divide, and my side, my guy, only rah, rah, rah. And again, if there isn't something you can't disagree with Trump on you're also not a thinker. You're not a principled person. I don't agree on the elimination of the penny and I go into the book of Revelation. Why the mark of the beast? Eliminate the penny, the nickels next, the dimes next pretty soon. Digital only currency and mark of the beast. They turn it on and off if you're not toeing the line.

Speaker 1:

So if you can't agree with something of even the other side, you're part of the problem. Right? The Michael Jackson man in the mirror or the Rick Springfield prayer? Look in the mirror and start with yourself.

Speaker 2:

That's right, yep, that's how it's supposed to go. And when you just see it, it's, it's, it's almost I've I felt like this is crazy, that I could be friends with somebody for 15 years and just based off who I voted for, you never want to talk to me again. Something is wrong with that. But I just think you know somebody got to do something to try to let folks know that we can do this. If we just drop all the stuff, like you got to drop the political thing, that doesn't mean you don't be political, but don't let the political thing make you who you're not supposed to be and make you not be able to love somebody because their political belief. That's like crazy. There's greater things about a person than something political. You know those type of things. So love conquers all Love If someone will allow it in their heart. Very true, I agree with that. But so many people are bitter and when you're bitter it's hard for love to penetrate that you know what I'm saying, so I get it yeah, can you.

Speaker 1:

I don't, I don't want you to necessarily Sing it, but can you give us Kind of the chorus Of American Strong or let's see. We want To tease them into Wanting to buy this song.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and it's cool because, even though I wrote it, we want to tease them into wanting to buy this song. Buy the song, okay, and it's cool because, even though I wrote it, I wanted to be it to where American wrote it. We wrote this song just become as one because we're American strong. We wrote this song to become as one because we're American strong. Here goes a part of the verse yes, you are my brother, black, white, red brown. Yes, we are one color Black, white, red brown. Yes, my brother, when life gets tougher, we got to learn to love one another. Come together as one. Let the life shine just like the sun. New life has just begun, one for all and all for one. See, I'm proud to be American, because American is who I am.

Speaker 1:

I have a piece about twisting and warping of language. I agree with whoopsie gold digger I mean whoopie goldberg on one thing, and she got suspended from the view for it. And calm down people, let's hear me out fully, cause don't freak out when I say this. She said on the view and got in trouble, for Hitler and the Jews wasn't a race thing. Well, she's right, because we're one human race. We are different subcultures, we may be different skin tones. We are all still part of the human race. So she was right for all the wrong reasons when she said it. She was right for all the wrong reasons when she said it. But that doesn't mean, man, I'm not going to defend her for being right for the wrong reason and indeed use it as a learning opportunity to make that point. We are all members of the human race.

Speaker 1:

We're not a different species.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

We may be regional subcultures, religious subcultures, but we're all humans.

Speaker 2:

This racism crap was a cultural Marxist creation creation to divide and conquer but see, that's part of well, let me use it because I'm a Christian and I said the thief cometh to steal, kill and destroy. So his job is to deceive, his job is to go forth and cause division. You know what I'm saying? It's like America has a vision, but when somebody like so, when the enemy comes in, he wants the vision to die. And that's where it comes die vision, died, american vision. If I can cause this to happen, I'm gonna call the vision of america to die, you know.

Speaker 2:

And the whole thing is, people grab it too. It's like some people are just not thinking and understand that man. You know what? Maybe if I change who, how, I think I can make a difference. Maybe if I love better, I can make a difference. And the whole thing is America is we're supposed to be free, but we bind our own hands up because we have these thoughts, like because I'm free, I can hate. Because I'm free, I can say what I want to say and even though it hurts you, I don't care.

Speaker 1:

See, well, technically. Well, technically speaking, yes, and the Supreme Court has ruled you have every right to hate, right? I like to joke we both have gray goatees right All day long. We can hate people who don't have gray goatees and say we hate people who don't have great goatees.

Speaker 1:

All we like. What we don't have a right to do is then say somebody ought to do something to those people who don't have great goatees. That's then incitement, that's then inciting violence and whatnot. That is over the line of free speech. So, yes, you know the neo-Nazis. I've been to California, I've seen the marches. Frankly, I want them to do that, that. I want to know who the morons are. I want you to espouse your stupid, so I know you for who you are, rather than them festering behind the scenes planning terrorism on people, and it becomes this massive surprise when it happens. No, I want to know who you are. So, please, and as the saying goes, when you're telling me who you are, I'm going to believe it.

Speaker 1:

Like Iran, death to Israel. Also death to America. Hey, morons, they don't need a nuclear warhead perfected in an ICBM. They could put it on a ship. Look at what Ukraine just did with the drones. They trucked them into Russia, then they launched them out of the trucks to attack. Put a dirty, crude nuke on a ship, then a truck to Tel Aviv and New York, and simultaneously there's mushroom clouds. But yet people don't wake up to reality of what could happen and that we need to you know, take measures to make sure those things don't happen.

Speaker 2:

Right correct?

Speaker 1:

I agree with that. Those things don't happen, right, correct, I agree with that. Believe them when they're telling us they hate us and want to kill us.

Speaker 2:

Right, that's true. But see, that's the reason why I wrote the song, so hopefully the song will help folks get it together or even think about man. Maybe I need to change my position, maybe I need to come a little bit different so our America can heal. See, we need healing, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's like the coexist bumper sticker. Why does it seem like the people who most have that bumper sticker seem to be the biggest haters and don't want to coexist Again? I don't have to like you, but indeed we need to learn to get along and coexist.

Speaker 2:

But a lot of it is. I think when somebody don't like somebody, they should first have a reason, not just go for somebody don't like somebody. They should first have a reason, not just go forth. I don't like you. See, that's a lot of it. It's just like I'll be having sometimes these folks telling me what racism do you see? See, and I'm like, see, it's easy for somebody that don't experience it, it's easy for somebody that don't experience it to say something about it like it don't exist, right, until you experience it, right, until you experience it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah Again. That's a whole Right. We're all one race and we've come to accept it as a definition of a situation. To deny it exists is absurd. It's certainly far better than it used to be, but there's always going to be idiots who hate based on skin tone. I don't get it, but also, likewise, I like to say I'm human, I'm frail, flawed, imperfect, right. A first impression can be a rage, for whatever reason, and you come across as someone hostile. It's like I've got to remember that might not normally be you, something may be up with you that day, right? So they're the grace and second chances and turn the other cheek, which doesn't mean always be a sucker, though you're right, and and.

Speaker 2:

But that's, that's part of love, showing grace and mercy. And god said whoever shows mercy will obtain mercy. So the difference is, and I want to be the example of that, see, I want to be the example of that, see, I want to be the example of like you know what, and it's something that Jesus did on the cross. He said Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do. And see, the thing is just like you said, I don't know what that person has gone through and so don't let me go forth and take it personal. You know, and that's the thing Once you take it personal, you'll start to respond. It lets you know you're bitter, it lets you know when you're bitter.

Speaker 2:

And then we ain't even talking about what the mind will do. The mind will make you think something that ain't the truth, but you can make it the truth. You know what I'm saying and that's what the mind do like. So I could get off this, off this podcast, right, and also get up there and dance and and say you know my bro, you know he didn't really like me, like that, that'd be in my mind, but that is. There was nothing to show that you did not like me, right, but my mind could say something, and if I yield to that, what I would never come on your show again, I would like to see. So the difference would be your mind can say something, and if I yield to that, what I will never come on your show again, I would like to see. So the difference would be your mind can create something that is not the truth, that we make the truth, and then you know, our lives will change because of the made-up truth that we have, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then there's that, the old saying right, don't assume. Right, you plug the kids ears, right, right, plug the kid's ears, right, you make an ass out of you and me, right, do this crazy thing called asking for clarification. And do you know what it seemed to me like? You said this and were attacked. Was that your intent? And indeed you might get, oh, dear Lord, no, I don't know why or how I came across that way. Please forgive me, it was not my intent, but yeah, we, as you said, might internalize it personally and also forget and react personally and also forget and react personally. And then you've created a feud over nothing, over something stupid and trivial. That goes on for years, and nobody like Hatfield and McCoy, it's like feuds forever.

Speaker 1:

And because you had said it, what Jesus said on the cross Father, forgive them. They know not what they do. Anti-semitism in the world. I think Christians I'm sorry, I'm just going to say that who blame the Jews of today for Christ's death on the cross then, and even not all the Jews then were at fault. Those who wanted to cling to their own worldly power were at fault and demanded rob us rather than Jesus. Be saved and indeed, forgive them. They know not what they do. Jesus had to go up on that cross people. He had to become the final blood sacrifice. They were part of God's will. So you blaming them means you're blaming God.

Speaker 2:

And you know what's so funny? I don't blame nobody but myself, because he came to die for the lost, so anybody who was lost is why he was on that tree. He did that to save mankind, so it didn't matter who did it. It could have been the Hebrews, it could have been anybody, it doesn't matter. The whole thing is he was slain before the foundation of the world. That means he was going to die for the sins of the world, regardless of the fact of who did it. Right?

Speaker 1:

And it's Matthew 7, 5, is it? I don't have things memorized, despite having a Christian show. It's not like I've got the Bible completely memorized up here, people, I don't. But he came to fulfill the Torah, fulfill the scriptures, not to plant and replace them. Yes, him as the final blood sacrifice eliminated the animal sacrifices we did and again turn the other cheek is the new, better way. But it doesn't say always be suckered and taken advantage of. And I for an I and Genesis, leviticus, deuteronomy, the death penalty scriptures still relate, except it doesn't mean you personally get to enact the revenge. We still have to have a judicial system, but allowing someone to continually murder people, those who shed man's blood by man's blood, shall be shed. There comes a point where grace and chances indeed are played out. Yep, I mean the whole Bible in full context. Context, what this show is about. It bothers me to know when people who want to pick and choose one scripture and ignore 20 others that give it context right, right, wow, that's good.

Speaker 2:

It's just good stuff, man. I I'm just here to bring the unity back, man, and have the grace and the mercy that God would have, and try to cause people to move to do the right thing, exactly so.

Speaker 1:

American Strong is indeed kind of a man in the mirror or Springfield Prayer or coexist. There's not a cheesy, we are the world kind of one.

Speaker 2:

Even though I almost did it like that, I was getting ready to get singers to just sing it like. Like, get a singer to say we honor those who gave their lives, then have somebody else sing to express our freedoms and all of our rights. We have to keep our integrity, to put god back in so we can have liberty. So, no more judging, just loving. No more Lots and lots of hugging, see. So when you have those things, it's just like you have to give people something to do. It's easy to say, hey, let's love everybody, but love always has an action. I can always tell somebody I love them and don't like nothing about them, but you know what I'm saying. But love always has an action, you know somebody loves you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, love has an hearing. The Ophelia love, the brotherly love what.

Speaker 1:

Philadelphia was named for, and there's nothing like it seems these days. I want to push back a bit, though, because you said about loving, no more judging. Well, the Bible has many scriptures that we are to judge. Matthew 7 really is condemned not lest ye be condemned, for final judgment is for the Lord. Other scriptures tell us to judge ourselves as well as everyone else biblically. So I want judgment, but at the same time, not condemnment, and I think that is really what you're saying, much like Matthew 7, guess doesn't quite in our modern English versions. Say it like the original Aramaic, Hebrew, latin and Greek do condemn, not.

Speaker 2:

You know what? What I was saying is that even in our judging, god told us to judge the fruit it bears. So the difference is me looking at a person and what we're good at. We're judging the person to how they look and we don't know nothing they've done. So God told us to judge the fruit that a person bears. You see what I'm saying, and I'm always supposed to judge myself, I'm always supposed to check myself. God, am I doing the right thing, that type of things, that judging? But when it comes to other people and watch this, jesus showed us when they threw the prostitute at his feet. Now she is a prostitute and she did do the stuff, and jesus is the judger, but he did not judge.

Speaker 2:

so it showed me see, we did not condemn, he did not condemn right but but he also didn't judge her because they were trying to get him to judge her. What should we do? Yeah, she did this and he just said now watch, he made everybody judge themselves. See that's what? Because he says he who, without sin, cast the first stone? Absolutely Neither do I accuse you, and see that's what the judge does.

Speaker 2:

They accuse you, see, and see that's what the judge does. They accuse you of doing something that you didn't do. But see, if we know this, what comes from what you say? Like it becomes bad fruit. See, I can judge that. See, that person is what comes off of that person. I'm seeing the fruit. People are doing bad things based on what he's saying people are doing. See, that person is what comes off of that person. I'm seeing the fruit. People are doing bad things based on what he's saying People are doing it. See, I can judge that fruit. But see, the difference is even that God is like how can you judge somebody else Because you don't do that specific thing, but you have something over here that you't that you have trouble with over here, but you haven't judged yourself before you judged him, and that's why Jesus removed the log from thine own eyes.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, and even though it might not be the same situation, and that's why Jesus said this he who was without sin cast the first stone. So, like what some of us would do, we would cast the stone because we want to show everybody I'm not in sin. I'm not in sin, it's deflection.

Speaker 1:

It is look at that, so you're not looking at me and and sin is sin, as is crime is crime. But and I know some people- are going to get upset.

Speaker 1:

they're not all equal and that's why crime and punishments are different and why sin, you know, like I don't know if Dante and the Dante's Inferno thing could be, because I know I'm a sinner and I'm guilty of things. I don't know that I deserve to go directly to heaven. Perhaps maybe Dante's right, and whatever layer of the inferno I got to spend some time in I would deserve, before getting to elevate to heaven.

Speaker 2:

But I'm thankful that it don't run like that.

Speaker 1:

I hope it don't, but you know, if it does, I got only myself to blame.

Speaker 2:

For sure, for sure, and I understand that. That's why we, each and every day, we have to renew our minds with the word of God. Live out the word of God and hide the word in your heart so we won't sin against them. He gave us everything we need pertaining to life and godliness to walk it out. So I believe it's a day-to-day battle. I mean he said it was going to be a battle. We have to guard our heart. We have to guard our heart. We got to watch our lips. We got to guard our mind, so those things are going to automatically affect us. So we have to do it God's way to get the fruit of God. I got to do it God's way to get God's fruit, and that's just how that works. So America is strong in that. Let me speak God, because if we put God back in, he can correct some things. That's why he says if my people will call out my name, repent, humble themselves, I will heal their land.

Speaker 1:

We were exactly on the same page. I was just going to quote 2 Chronicles 7.14. I do it all the time. People want to miss that turn from wicked ways. Part that is action. Call on our part. That's not just kneel and pray and I'll wear the magic wand. No Kneel and pray, Get off your knees. Do things to make things better and God will help. He'll help.

Speaker 2:

And it's funny because he did say his people See now, like that's the difference. So then we're talking about godly people. So that means a lot of us godly people are in sin and we haven't repented to do what is right, what God tells us to do, so what he's trying to say. We're going to suffer until we do it, because that's what he's saying. You want my help? This is what you do. I noticed that God did that all throughout the Bible. You do this, then I will do that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I go on and on about that, then I would do that. Oh, I go on and on about that. The Matthew 23 fake Christian types, those that Jesus rightly called vipers, snakes, false guides, all want, as my friend Pastor Sean Todd of Wham Radio says on his intersection show Noons on Sunday, they want the hippie hacky sack sit around the campfire singing Kumbaya all day long. Hype Jesus. They want to forget about, as I say, the whole Bible in full context, all those tough love parts. You can't leave those out.

Speaker 2:

For sure. You can't put Jesus on a buffet table. You can't put the Bible on the buffet table. I want Jesus the broccoli here, but I don't want Jesus the asparagus.

Speaker 1:

Amen, brother. Well, you know I keep my shows pretty short and this is probably shorter than the other times you've been on, but we packed a whole lot into this short time. And again, the main reason you're here is the song american strong, and people could check you out. World of dpbcom is still active. Yes, yes, indeed, and I'm sure american strong, like spotify and everywhere all those places right yep is it on an actual album at this point?

Speaker 2:

no, because it was just one of them things I wrote just because of the election and just because it's like. You know, how can I bring people together? So we it's just something that we wanted to release. It was actually we was going to release a different type of song, but I just felt like it was the right timing Memorial Day, right before Memorial Day. It will ride all the way into the 4th of July, you know what I'm saying. So it's kind of cool that it's going to do that thing like that, you know yeah, yeah, I've got a friend, pastor Jeff Jones.

Speaker 1:

one of his sons is also a singer writer. He wrote something about tough. I forget the title, but it's based off of that old Ford commercial built Ford tough, you know, built American tough, or whatever. I need to hook the two of you up to do something together, but indeed so, oh, I lost my train of thought. But to wrap things up, oh, I know, thank you so much, my friend, my brother, that's not a skin tone thing, that's a Christian thing.

Speaker 1:

And people need to get over this black, white and all kinds of shades in between, nonsense, like Martin Luther King Jr said, content of character. I know a whole lot of white people I want nothing to do with. I still love them and I pray for their soul. It has nothing to do with skin tone. People, let's indeed come together, american strong Amen.

Speaker 1:

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