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CTP (S3ESepSpecial1) Holy Wisdom from a 23-Year-Old? This Gen Z Christian Will Surprise You
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond
We explore the concept of purpose-driven culture with Curtis Harris from Roundtable Rejects, examining how individual perspectives shape our collective understanding and the importance of listening to viewpoints different from our own.
• Curtis explains Roundtable Rejects as a movement to inspire "not only life but life in abundance"
• Discussion of how Christianity often gets reduced to labels rather than lived experience
• The challenge of choosing "light over darkness" in daily decisions
• Exploration of how building a relationship with God requires consistent daily choices
• Curtis shares insights about generational differences in handling conflict and seeking wisdom
• Conversation about the "second Jesus Revolution" happening as people push back against self-centered culture
• The power of humility and service as alternatives to pride and self-promotion
• Biblical understanding of different types of love (philia, agape, eros) and their effects
• The importance of intergenerational knowledge-sharing and mentorship
• How personal experiences can be transformed into wisdom for future generations
Visit roundtablerejects.com or find them on Instagram @roundtablerejects111
Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, aka CTP. I am your host, Joseph M Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. Ctp is your no-must, no-fuss, just me, you and occasional guest-type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. As Graham Norton will say, let's get on with the show. Welcome to another episode of Crustitutionalist welcoming me. This happens every time I hit record. My mouth and brain don't cooperate. Not welcoming me. I'm welcoming to the show, Curtis Harris. How are you, curtis?
Speaker 2:I'm doing all right, man, I'm doing good. You know, woke up feeling all right, ready to rock and roll, ready about some things. Man, I hope you're doing okay, all is well I always say could be better, could be worse understood, understood, that is very valid. That is very valid. That is very valid, yes.
Speaker 1:And I have that in two of my books, a life philosophy I'm trying to spread. Hey people, it could always be better, but it could be worse. Exactly, anyway, in your Podmatch profile, all I needed to see was at the bottom it says if your podcast is about purpose-driven culture, good enough, okay, awesome. Well, skipping the first obvious question, I'll come back to it. The obvious question, with that terminology there is are you in association with at all Rick Warren and Purpose Driven Life book or his ministry?
Speaker 2:No sir, not at all no sir.
Speaker 1:I didn't think so, but it's an obvious question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%. That is kind of a big wave, kind of right now that 100 that is I can. I can see why you asked that yes, sir, yes, sir, yeah.
Speaker 1:That book came out quite a while ago, but, at any rate, and there's a movie called capture, I think with mera capea, and that book plays a role in that movie.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, that's a great movie.
Speaker 1:It's an older movie now too, but if you get a chance to stream that I think it's called Capture Look up Kate Mara movies and find that one Capture or Captive, something like that. Anyway, you're not here to talk about that, but indeed the obvious first question would be let's get to it. Where were you born? Where are you now, you know?
Speaker 2:okay, all right all the down and dirty, nitty gritty okay.
Speaker 2:Well, guys, I represent roundtable rejects. I'm just one of the representatives, you know, and roundtable rejects, pretty much, is a movement, purpose-driven movement to inspire not only life but life in abundance. And if you guys have heard this before, you probably heard it in the Bible, you know, just a carrying of your cross, but more so a carrying of life. You know, we all are here to live our lives in our own individual perspectives. Never get it wrong, because every single individual perspective matters. Perspective matters. I'm just another perspective on this globe that we call life. So in my perspective, I've seen. I've seen some things, but I know that I've only seen just a fraction of a puzzle, because life, just walking in life, man, it's just a trip of awareness. You know it's just awareness, the more and I'm so happy to get on here with a man that looks so versed in experience in this thing we call life in this thing we call life.
Speaker 1:I should have worn the Book of Kennedy shirt for the show because my latest book, the Book of Kennedy, kennedy, is a fictional female character. It has nothing to do with JFK.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Although if you put the Book of Kennedy in Amazon search field rather than bring up my book, that's actually called the book of kennedy. It'll list books about kennedy first that aren't called that. It was like oh my god I should have called it something else.
Speaker 1:I should have known that would probably happen they loved you up in that man but it is what it is and indeed the book book of Kennedy is about life and living and yeah, things have a whole lot of what I call mass holes out there try to drag you down, trying to navigate life and remain optimistic while the mass holes are trying to drive you down.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's so real. Oh man, I'd love to check that out. That sounds awesome, man. Oh man, yeah, because that's kind of where I'm at like in the stage of my life is just going against the grain. You know, and when you decide to go on your own path, you get conflicted a lot, you know, and it's more than that because it's you. You have the, the people that, okay, I'm gonna be a christian. You know, and there's there's different portions or different aspects of christianity, and I don't mean just the denominational, it goes beyond that. You know, because you have your people that are like, oh, I'm christian but I'm not in a religion. You know, it's like it's, it's a mindset, and that's kind of how like christianity was even derived. You probably already know that. Uh, it was, it was a word used to mock people that were trying to be like Christ, and that's kind of where I'm at. You know, it's like I don't really want to be put into a box of any type of sorts, but I do try to behave like my creator, amen.
Speaker 1:I hear you because that I I. I hear you. Matthew 23 false prophet, vipers, snakes, blind guides twice spoke of it. Then we have a lot of them now. I'm a christian. Well, you sure don't act like it much. Right the? They want the kumbaya singing around the campfire, stuff, but they skip the tough love parts.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying yeah, yeah, right and that that's what this whole show is about that's amazing, that's amazing people want to leave out you're not a real christian if you just want to go to a humanist club with a steeple and the minute you walk out you forget what the Bible says.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You know it's more about how you feel instead of getting yourself on the right track. You know?
Speaker 1:And back to what you said, right, and alluding to the book of Kennedy, the mass holes. Why do you want to be a Christian? Why don't you just take the easy path you mentioned? Path, right, the secular, what Just go with the flow? Man, right, just whatever. Dude, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, that's what it's all about. Conviction is everything. Now, nowadays especially, conviction is everything and I sometimes I feel the need to uh, apologize for my generation, because it's it's a, it's a big divide, and I understand how big of a divide it is for people that are. I mean they use the term like PC.
Speaker 1:How old are you? I'm 23. I'm 23. So I'm right in the mix of it.
Speaker 2:I'm right in the mix of it.
Speaker 1:For those not watching the behind the scenes video and for the benefit of the transcript. So when you say your generation, they know what we're talking about here. Yeah, exactly. And the other thing too is you use the word roundtable. I have friends at Wham Radio here in Michigan have the Abolitionist Roundtable show, wow. That airs Saturdays at 9 am. So I love that you use the words roundtable.
Speaker 2:It's like oh.
Speaker 1:I definitely got to talk to this person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because that's what it is right now. We need a roundtable because a lot of perspectives are getting left out right now and that's what I see in my individual walk is the divide. I'm right in the mix of the divide and we're constantly, every single day, going directing against the divide and trying to look towards oneness, unity, and the only way to get unity is by having everyone's side of the story. No, no story should be left out. I feel everyone has a voice. God didn't put you here. Your father, your creator. You are not here to be like. Everything that you've went through as an individual was not for no reason. There is purpose behind every single body story. There's things that you could learn from. It's just the lack of awareness.
Speaker 1:I I need to hire you to help sell my book. You're selling my book that's what.
Speaker 2:That's exactly why I'm here. I was like, oh man, that book, that book sounds amazing, because that's exactly the season in my life that I'm going through right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I hear you, and that's part of the problem is we're not listening right, I hear you, I respect you. I may not agree, but okay, you're you, I'm me, I care, I pray for your soul Exactly, you may be going down a path I don't like, but you're you. God gave us free will. Please, I'm praying for your soul, but indeed we need to hear each other, have a discussion and, even if we don't agree, at the end at least we're talking Exactly Now.
Speaker 2:Now it's not oh man, I don't even know why he did that Like now. I don't even know why he did that. He's wrong and it's like okay. So now you see the other side of the grass. Well, he, he felt like this in his heart and he told you the steps that led up to him feeling like this. So now you know exactly where he's at. Now. We need that outside perspective be like okay. So this is how we fix this. This is where compromise comes in, you know so, so, okay. So you were feeling uh bad about the way he said something okay, and you were. You were feeling bad about uh the way also.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're all so damn easily offended these days yes, sir, and that's and that's why I had to come in with a, with an apology, because it's like some of us have the, the grit of actually like not having the the best childhoods, but some of us just sat in front of a computer every day where all they, all they would do is get their way, because you know you're in a chat room and it's not going your way there. You just go on to the next chat room because maybe you'll get yeah, yeah find the bubble.
Speaker 1:That suits you a confirmation bias people. I, my christitutionalist two book has a quotations chapter. I I'm not trying to peddle my book here, but you again you touched on this right in the quotations chapter mainly famous people, but there's a few joe originals in there, one is it's. I'm a former it guy, so so I say never before in the course of human history have people had access to facts at their fingertips, but conversely, never before in history have people had such access to feed their delusional bubble.
Speaker 2:Yes before.
Speaker 1:Yes sir.
Speaker 2:That's so real. And that was the difference to why I see any people like older than me, even even if it's a little bit or it's by a couple decades. It's that they didn't have that. So when they grew up, they had to go through the fire, you know they had to. They had to build and ingrain themselves to where they are at. They had to go through the constant conflict of oh, they, they couldn't like look online and and find, oh so this person knows exactly what I'm going through. No, they had to go through it alone. They're like well, I'm having these thoughts. Okay, so I have to either stand on this belief or have to get it challenged by every single person in my life. You know, and that's why it's like man.
Speaker 2:All respect to you guys, because you guys did the best with what you had, and now that we're tapping into more stuff, it's our job as the new generation to do the best with what we have, and it's a lot of laziness, a lot of pride, a lot of ego that we won't just let go of. You know, and instead of using this information to build people, we're using this information to tear each other down, to try to be better than your neighbor, instead of building up your neighbor and that's what we talk about a lot is the culture of love itself and sacrifice itself. Are you willing to give everything that you have, sacrifice your life, not only for your friend, but also do it for your enemy, the person that despises you, the person that talks down on you every single day? Are you willing to give your life and everything good and bad in your life to that person, because that's where your true love actually comes from? Is that sacrifice of giving everything you have?
Speaker 2:Look at God, look at the Father. He gave everything that he had. He gave a part of his glorious, magnificent light. That cannot be any dampness, it could not be darkened by anything, the purest light itself. He gave it as a full-on sacrifice. He didn't say, well, I'm sacrificing for some of you guys, well, I'm sacrificing for this particular group. No, he gave it as a universal sacrifice. And will we, as our new generation, pick up our cross and and take this knowledge and this youthfulness that we have and give it as a sacrifice into this world? You know, and instead of using it to okay, now I'm better than him? No, it's like that shouldn't even exist in your mindset, honestly, that that really should exist to be a sacrifice. You know, and that's where I yeah, that's what I see I shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna insult a lot of your generation, right? It's good to be talking to somebody in your generation that has their head screwed on straight, at least so many of them don't and they lack the wisdom you have obviously beyond your years. And again, the book of Kennedy deals in badgering and bullying and you alluded right. We don't get to choose how people act towards us, but we do get to choose how we react back. And that's not to say man, that's so real.
Speaker 1:We're all human. I'm frail, I'm flawed, I have bad days too Right. So you're shitty to me. If I'm having a bad day, I might not be as Christian as I need to be and I lash back, which I don't want to do. And I recognize there's a group called. They have a song called Black Flag, a King's X, a Christian group.
Speaker 2:You say Black Flag, I thought pirates. Oh yeah, yeah it goes.
Speaker 1:I had a black flag, you know, like you know, you had the negativity on your day. I had a black flag on my morning. I had a black flag on my day. And he goes on later to say it was up to me how I wanted it to be Right, how we react when the world gives us lemons, lemons, the. Are you going to make lemonade out of the?
Speaker 2:type oh my gosh, that is so real because, at least from my perspective, I see every moment, every decision. We have a decide decision to decide do we choose the light or do we choose darkness? You know, every time something enters your life in your walk, do you choose the light or do you choose darkness? And then kind of getting into a walk to where it's like either I'm going to handle this positively or if it's negatively and I feel like handling it negatively, I'm just going to give it up to God. You know, sacrifice it up to God. And I know in the Bible it says give your burdens to God. So anything that burdens you that you can't directly affect with life, or with light, with life, with love, go ahead and give it up to God. And I say this to say that's how you build a relationship with God is by choosing him daily. You know, choosing to do the loving thing versus doing the hateful thing, and you do this daily. That's building a relationship with God.
Speaker 2:You know you're waking up and being like, okay, I'm choosing God, I'm choosing the way of good and not the way of evil, and, and God will, will respect that and he'll give back to you. He'll, he'll either test you more or reward you for what you're going through. But a lot of the time it's like, okay, I'm going to give them another test. And it's our responsibility to have that mental fortitude and be like you know what I'm not going to crack. I'm going to go through every single day. I'm going to take, take what what hits me, and I'm going to try, you know, and, and they're going to see that trying, god's going to see that trying. And that's how you get to a point to where, okay, I am come, I am good in my faith.
Speaker 2:I know without a shadow of a doubt that where I'm going after this life is a place with God, because your relationship is fully with God. You're with God right now and then you'll be with God in the end, because it's a never ending walk, because we have the Holy Spirit and every day when you choose God, you're building that Holy Spirit power within you and you know, and that Holy Spirit power within you is just going to ascend right up to heaven. It's our job to have that relationship and I'm telling you guys, you just got to choose that every single day and that's how you build that relationship, that's how you get that power in God is by okay, I'm not going to do the negative thing, I'm going to do the positive thing, you know, and do that out of respect for God, do that out of respect for your people, you know, yeah.
Speaker 1:And again back to the path thing that you brought up. Again, we're all human, we're all I can't talk, still frail and flawed, and yeah, some days we just might want the easy path and again we might have a bad day. But that's where grace has to come, in that we have to remember that person might just be having a bad day, this interaction might not be the way they normally are, and I need to remember that.
Speaker 2:And that's where that lack of awareness, lack of understanding, understanding and it's like that in, and you could probably enlighten me so much on how it's always been where, so has it always?
Speaker 1:been, if I may ask, like well, I'm old, but not ancient I know you're younger than me.
Speaker 2:I don't know what I'm talking about I just turned.
Speaker 1:I just turned 63 this year.
Speaker 2:Oh man, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, okay, awesome.
Speaker 1:I could talk about the last half century, okay.
Speaker 2:That's what I need right now. Is that lack of awareness. Has it ever like? I know it's grown and we've come so far? Has it ever like I know it's grown and we've come so far? But at least government-wise, have we gotten that lack of awareness correlation to where it's like?
Speaker 1:okay, I can see our God shining through the government. I hope we will again. Wow, I hope we will again. Wow, yeah, it's been so bad since World War II. On, wow, and, as you said, a little wisdom because you're younger, right, we're in the 1960s again.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you're aware of the whole idea of hippies and flower child of the 60s. Right, if it feels good, do it. You're familiar with that phrase from the 60s the hippies. Well, we need, we're there again. Everybody's about me, me, me. What do I get? How do I get it? Why didn't I get it? Yeah, but what you may not remember, or you wouldn't remember, you may not realize, is the 60s hippies. Most of them eventually grew up, they got older and they recognized hey, this planet does not revolve around me. There's more to life and others that I need to care about, not just me. There's more to life and others that I need to care about, not just me which led to the 1970s Jesus Revolution Another great movie, if you want to see that.
Speaker 1:Jesus Revolution, all about that. Right, we're in that time again now. A whole lot of me, me, me, me. But some of those people will grow up and others already, like you, well wise beyond their years, because they see them doing that and they say I don't want to be like that. I know there's more to life than just me. So there is a second Jesus revolution happening now and that's why I have that before it's newscom, a piece called the liberty beaconcom. Let the left keep pushing. There's a generational shift. You're an example of it happening, pushing back on their indoctrination of the sixties hippie. Everything always is about you. People are waking up to that that it is not A second Jesus revolution is happening.
Speaker 2:Well, thank God for that man. Thank God for that, because I know at least what I've learned through Christianity, and this is actually scripture the greatest among you will be the greatest servant you know. And as long as my generation could not think, the greatest among you is not the one with the most money, not the one with the most power, but the greatest servant you know and being able to humble themselves and be like well, how can I serve people better? You know, and that's where the competition is, not how can I be the most prideful, not how can I outshine, but how can I take a step back and learn to serve better, you know.
Speaker 1:And serving others a lot of times helps serve yourself.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, and that's what people don't understand. It's a never-ending fountain. You know, karma, karma, exactly Karma. What?
Speaker 1:you put out, you'll usually get back Exactly Put out good, you'll usually get good back. Put out positivity, you'll usually get good back. Put out positivity, you'll usually get positively back Positivity Again. My mouth don't want to work, but you knew what I meant. But sometimes God uses the lowest of us, the worst of us, right.
Speaker 2:Oh, man doesn't he.
Speaker 1:Look at the Bible and who God lifted up. At times it was like, well, that person was a piece of you know what.
Speaker 2:But now, with God's influence and help, look what they're doing right, I know, and it's almost like a joke the way he does it. It's almost hilarious the way he does it.
Speaker 1:But it's important for humans because our human nature right Again, we're given free will. So he wants to take bad examples and make use of them because we can relate a lot of time to the bad examples, because, again, we're not perfect, we're all sinful and if God can lift up that sinner then obviously there's hope for the rest of us Exactly, and that's such beauty in the story and man.
Speaker 2:That relates me back to the prophet Elijah, I believe. Which is so hilarious that story is when he's going up against the world's God, the God of Baal. For those of you that don't know the story, it was a competition between God the Father and Baal and they both came out and they put bundles of sticks out and they're like OK, well, we're going to see who's God can make this, this fire spark. And it's like groups and groups of people are praying to these sticks and they're like Baal, come on, do the fire. And and it's just Elijah there and he's like maybe you guys need to cry louder, you know, maybe you guys need to really, really go at it, because his fire sparks almost immediately. Elijah's fire with God the father just almost sparks immediately. And here's why I bring up this parable, because then they're like oh well, let's put water on his sticks water, guys. And it still sparks.
Speaker 1:I watched just yesterday I think it was History's Mysteries with Lawrence Fishburne, I think hosts the show and Mysteries of the Bible were the episode and this very story. Well, how could sticks catch fire without a source? And they went into the science. Well, with this present and that present, pouring water on it would have made those chemicals generate heat and light wet wood on fire. So it's not only biblical, it's scientifically sound.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that it happened yes, yes, and and, and that's where we're coming to is this age of more awareness, where people are starting to like see through the cracks. You know and I'm finding that too, when they're like well, god is light, and then you go scientifically that every time you feel the emotion of like love, your brain lights up. On the scans, on scientific scans, your brain actually lights up when you feel emotions like love. It's like we are actually showing light, and it's not only a spiritual sense, a biblical sense, but it's also a scientific sense, which is so amazing.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, and I'm glad you brought that up While you were talking. I'm bringing up a copy of my book and I'm doing a quick search because I want to read from the book. In fact, if that animal side of us is sometimes too overly emotional side brings any urge to want smack the you-know-what out of someone and indeed best to love them from afar. A different kind level of love, still very much Christian godly, jesus, philia, fashion right. The different types of love. The Bible points out Philia, the Philadelphia, which most people in the city of brotherly love have no idea where Philadelphia came from. The Bible Thelia or versus God's reserve, agape or story love or eros love right. Eros love right, and all of those things indeed light up and affect our brains differently, as God created us and intention for it to do.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow, wow. That if I'm gonna give my life, you know, and I'm gonna give everything I have, that's the the. The thing that holds me all together and inspires me probably the most is that when people above my age are willing to give their knowledge and give their wisdom, it well, yeah, it because it inspires me, because you have those people that will gatekeep, like, all of their knowledge and all of their wisdom and won't share it. You know, and it's like, do you not want the cycle of life that we're experiencing to end? And and for that, like in the beginning, when you're talking about it could be better, for that it could be better to start. You know, you guys have to talk to us in and provide the wisdom. I know some of us don't seek it, but there's a portion of us that really crave it. You know, like really want to know what happened and really want to know your perspectives.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying. Like I say that course I'm channeling the Bible there. That isn't my wisdom. I'm sharing biblical wisdom, right? I like to say that book, the book of Kennedy, like my other fictional books, come to me in dreams. So I like to say my books are not of me, they are through me, wow, I am given what I'm to write, they I am the one typing it, but they are through me, wow oh that is powerful, yeah, and, and that's, and that's how, uh, that's how you, I feel like you, you have to, you have to feel.
Speaker 2:A lot of the time is like that. Humbleness is everything you know, and I feel like that's the place us Christians strive for, to where it's no longer our will but it's totally just all God's will and we're just being a vessel here.
Speaker 1:You know I don't want this show to be all about me. Every once in a while it is. I do mention a book. I've mentioned a couple of them. I'm going to mention one more how to write a book and get it published. Hence tips and techniques. You need a copy of that so you can write a book.
Speaker 2:Eventually, maybe I feel like I got to go through so much more first.
Speaker 1:You know but I've always but your young, youthful perspective. Your peers need that. They need that now, not later. It may be too late.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so real.
Speaker 2:And right now, me and my wife are we just had our four year anniversary last week and right now, thank you so much and right now we're we're working on a child and if I did write anything, it would be so that, like, if anything were to happen to me, I'd be able to give that book at least to my child, you know, and be like okay, this is, this is what you which, what I've experienced, you could see if give them a launch pad to do better, because I, I, I, a hundred percent believe in generational curses and things being passed down.
Speaker 2:You know, and it's always the, the next guy cross, and what I do in my life will affect my son's life directly, and it's happened since the Garden of Eden. We are all feeling the backlash from what Adam and Eve did in the garden and we're still feeling that result. So our son is going to feel some of the things that I did and I want to see it. I want to try to prepare him the best he can, or the best I can, because I didn't have a father figure in my life to help me do so. So I, you know that's our job is to let's at least try to do better, guys.
Speaker 1:You know there are there are several books out there where people write letters to my child or whatnot, type Right, right, like in the book of Kennedy again not to necessarily promote the book, but you're perfectly set up for me to say this I can't pass the opportunity. Yes, sir, that's where.
Speaker 1:I'm at. That's where I'm at. And in the book of Kennedy, I quote from the song Last Chance by a group called Shooting Star Tomorrow, today, may be your last chance to drink from life's. Well, you could be dead tomorrow, right, we could all be hit by a bus tomorrow. We don't know how plentiful or few our days will be. And like you said, yeah, write a book. You don't want to write the memoir of Curtis Harris, because people would. Who the heck is Curtis Harris? Why?
Speaker 2:would I want to read his memoir.
Speaker 1:Letters to my child they can relate to and indeed, if you're hit by a bus, you have that left for your child to read.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, man yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm going to wrap things up. Does the Roundtable Rejects have a website people can reach out to?
Speaker 2:A hundred percent, guys. So we are doing more things. We do have, like, products and ways that you can support the cause and the mission, and that's kind of like our whole purpose is to kind of bring awareness and bring positivity not only into the people that we talk to, but into the world as a whole, guys. So when you're supporting us, you're also supporting yourselves, you're also supporting generations after you, and we have so many plans, drives and missions to help the generations after you, guys, you know. So the more you feed into the future which might be me the more I could feed into the future as well, guys. So, thank you.
Speaker 2:The website is roundtablelerejectscom. And then we also have, if you're into any social media, we have the Instagram, which is roundtablerejects111. And you could find everything, everything is linked from there. So, guys, check us out, if you like. What's going on here. There's a whole lot of that, a lot of giving, a lot of trying to grow, and there's a lot of things and videos on the Instagram that help growth and support growth. But, once again, thank you so much for having me, mr Joseph. I appreciate you greatly.
Speaker 1:Thank you, curtis. I'm glad you got your sound issues behind the scenes People don't know right Before you were a little late because you were having sound issues. Thank God you got those ironed out and we didn't have to cancel this discussion. I'm glad we had it Me as well. Thank you so much Take care.
Speaker 2:God bless All right you as well. Thank you so much. Take care, god bless All right you as well. Likewise, have a good day, take care.
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