CTP (S3EOctSpecial4) Choosing light when the world sells fear

CTP (S3EOctSpecial4) Choosing light when the world sells fear
[BOOKS / AUTHORS Weeks - Week 1 sub-episode 2 (Tue 20251014)]
A veteran and author joins us to talk about hope that holds under pressure, from PTSD and community care to faith, forgiveness, and the daily practice of kindness. We trade headlines for habits, share where to find Kim’s work, and point to simple ways to spread light.
• Books & Authors Weeks kickoff and show context
• Kim’s background in the Air Force and veteran advocacy
• PTSD support, community bonds, and service beyond uniform
• Faith journey, fear management, and “armor up” mindset
• Forgiveness with accountability and justice
• Finding hope in small daily moments and clean comedy
• Movies, media choices, and mental health inputs
• Awards as validation vs marketing tool for indie authors
• Where to find Kim’s books, podcast, and new e‑book
• Dexter the office manager and adopting shelter pets 

Chapters

• 0:00 Books & Authors Weeks Kickoff
• 2:05 Meet Kim Lengling
• 4:17 Service, PTSD, and Community
• 8:34 Charity, Education, and Culture Rants
• 19:27 Faith, Fear, and Forgiveness
• 31:13 Hope In Daily Moments
• 36:53 Movies, Media, and Meaning

Transcript

SPEAKER_01: 0:19

Welcome to Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, aka C T P. I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. C T P is your no must, no fuss, just me, you, and occasional guest type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. Graham Norton will say, let's get on with the show. Hello everyone. Welcome to Books, Authors Weeks. October of 2025. I had Health Weeks in February 2025. I had a Music Weeks, three of those in the month of March 2025. So here we are, October. I have a lot of fellow authors I have the chance to have discussions with. So Books Authors Weeks October 25. Without further ado, let's head into a discussion with a fellow author. For those viewing behind the scenes video, you see me pointing to the show name above my head. Joining me today is Kim Lengling. Did I get that? Okay. I didn't ask for clarification before hitting record. I took that risk. And in my hand here, the notes I have kindness is a beacon of hope and connection in a world often overshadowed by stress and uncertainty. Amen. Nuggets of hope invite you to embark on a journey of compassion towards blah blah blah blah blah. Your book being Nuggets of Hope, and you're a global award finalist. And I wanted to talk to you because my books, with kind of the minor exception of podcasting quick start guide and how to write a book and get it published for those behind the scenes, I'm holding them up. Unless if you're hoping to start your own podcast or hoping to write your own book, those will hopefully help you do that, right? All my books, including my four releases this year, have even terror strikes. I like to say not about death and destruction, but life and living, hope over despair. So you and I, as a writer, delve in the same things. Welcome to the show, Kim. Thank you. Thank you very much. I'm I'm glad to be here. Yeah, uh so I did a lot of rambling already. Let me take a break. Let's do the proverbial get it pun Christian show. Proverbs, proverbial first question. Who are you? Where were you born? Where were you raised? Where are you now? How much time did you spend in prison for what? All that nitty-gritty.

SPEAKER_00: 3:38

Well, I've never been in prison, so we'll just get that right off out of the way. Oh, they've still time for you.

SPEAKER_01: 3:46

Yeah, sure. Thanks. For the sake of the transcript, we're laughing. This is fun. This is a joke.

SPEAKER_00: 3:55

It's a joke, folks. That's right. Now, uh, like you said, my name is Kim Langling. I I live in the northwest corner of Pennsylvania currently. I've lived here my entire life, except for a very short part where I was born in Cleveland and moved here to Pennsylvania when I was about five years old. So I consider Pennsylvania my home. And let's see here. I'm an Air Force veteran and I'm a big advocate for veterans. So for like the last 30 years, I do a lot of helping those that live with PTSD, or at least guiding them where they can find the help that they need. As a veteran who lives with PTSD myself, I can have empathy and compassion for others that live with the same. Also, for the last, let's see, 25 years, myself and another woman started Project Support Our Troops, and we send care packages each and every month of the year for the last 25 years to the men and women that are deployed around the globe. So hundreds of thousands of boxes later, we're still going strong. So that's a big testament to our small communities where we live. I live in a rural area. So our my community and those surrounding, that's a big testament to them and their caring and compassion and faith in us to be able to send each and every month for 25 years. And it's all done by donation. So that's a big part of my life.

SPEAKER_01: 5:23

As it should be, yeah, government butt out, smaller government, charity as it should be, biblical show, community, charity, our own blood and treasure, not communist theft and redistribution, the charity the way it's supposed to be done. And you mentioned pencil stuck, pencil Tucky, go red wings, boo penguins and flyers.

SPEAKER_00: 5:54

Pencil Tucky. You know, I say that, and my dad used to say that. Very rarely do you ever hear anybody else saying that? So it surprised me when you just said that because I say that, Pencil Tucky.

SPEAKER_01: 6:06

Yeah, well, being in Michigan, we are Michiganians. That has a long-standing historic creativity from a Michigan politician way back. We are not Michiganders, we are not foul, we are not Canadian geese, we are Michiganians. So good to know. I learned something, I learned something new today. I I'm pretty sure I'm not not positive, but I think I have a piece on beforenews.com on origins of or the you know the Michiganian versus Michigander argument. But you're not here to discuss state nicknames. So you kind of already hinted at it, I believe, the motivation for nuggets of hope.

SPEAKER_00: 7:08

But yeah, what I do now, you know, what I've been doing, because that's such a big part of my life is being an advocate and and just you know, volunteering my time in the veteran community. And it's it's a big place, big piece of my heart doing all of that. And over the years, I have found that that taught me before I ever came to faith, that taught me community, brotherhood, sisterhood. And that was a big part of my healing was that that family bond that we all forge as veterans. Because they are my family. All these years later, we're we're still very close and always will be. So doing that, and then as as time went on, yeah, I was working in the outside corporate world for a long time. Over 25 years, I did uh sales and marketing. I was a sales and marketing director, sales marketing manager. Yeah, I was out there selling widgets and I was good at it and I enjoyed it. It was fun, and I loved building those those relationships as well. And I was in a manufacturing era, so it was you know more male-dominated. But to me, that was like, all right, bring it on, let's go.

SPEAKER_01: 8:21

I'll say I I'm glad you said what you said. You mentioned brotherly love, so of course, just a joke or just a loving jab at the people in Philadelphia, right? The city. I've never been there, I've never been there. Oh, yeah, I have. I have. I'm just playing. I I love you, brothers, I know people in Philadelphia, but sadly, the city of brotherly love, a whole lot of people there, no clue of the origin of the brotherly we are to want in Christianity to be our brother's keeper, brotherly love, brothers and sisters, uh, widows and orphans. Again, charity, not theft and redistribution. But it's sad, and I mentioned that in in a recent book, Philadelphia, they'll know the slogan, yeah, the city of brotherly love, but have no clue uh the biblical origins of the name, right?

SPEAKER_00: 9:58

You know, and if they're not taught, how would they know?

SPEAKER_01: 10:02

And that's true, and that's part why I put it in my book, right? Trying to be part entertainer, part educator, because our education system is so damn poor in this country.

SPEAKER_00: 10:15

It's it's gotten very my my sister is a teacher, and she shares every once in a while her frustration. Um there are good ones trapped in a bad system. It's it's exactly. It's and I've talked to other teachers that say it's it's become very hard to actually teach because they have to hit numbers and testing.

SPEAKER_01: 10:38

Well, they're not anywhere close to hitting numbers they should be. Instead, they're like I say, it's the instead of the old core R's of reading, writing, arithmetic, history, not this social studies nonsense or you know, lack of civics, there's no R in there, or I joke virology, no R in there, but they're that you know, wink, wink, nah, not our kids are too dumb, they don't know there's not an R in it, and they need to be taught it. In fact, instead, the new core Rs radicalism, bronch, and racism through CRT, right? A whole lot of Colleen Hoover softcore porn peddled on our grade schoolers than reading, writing arithmetic of valid classics like having removed to kill a mockingbird. No, that's not instilling racism, it's demonstrating the absurdity and Martin Luther King's plea for content of character. But no, we don't want to have that, we want to have softcore porn instead.

SPEAKER_00: 11:56

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be a teacher, let's just put it that way. That's my short and simple comment on that. I would not want to be a teacher. Yeah, I you know, I'm just I and I'm I'm thankful that my daughter is grown and on her own, you know, yeah, out of you know, she's she's married, but I I often worry she has a a daughter and and she's just two, but I'm thinking, what kind of world is she going to be growing up into? Yeah, well, they're it's a frightening, it's a frightening thing. I mean, pardon me. The world right now is a scary place for a lot of people, and rightly so. You know, there's different generations that each generation handles it differently, and you see the younger generation now handling it in fear because that's what they've been fed. And the name of my podcast is called Let Fear Bounce for a reason, you know, armor up, and I often say armor up because the D-Man is awful busy pulling his poison arrows. You gotta you gotta armor up so they can bounce off you. Yep, and that's you know, I call the devil the D-Man, and he's busy. The D-man and his minions are very, very busy, very busy lately. And it might feel like to some folks that he's succeeding, but for those of us who oh, we know he's gonna win.

SPEAKER_01: 13:18

We know who wins. We know he's yeah, we know the devil, Satan, whatever will evil will succeed from time to time, but we know in the end ultimately who wins.

SPEAKER_00: 13:31

Yes, we know who wins. So you gotta hold tight to that. You've got to hold tight to that, and that's something that, like I had mentioned earlier, I I didn't come to my faith until my mid-30s. So I call myself a late bloomer, and I still I call myself a newbie Christian still, but it it took a it took a while, and it took my life never late than never, absolutely, you know, and it it it it took my life imploding for me to realize who I was crying out to that I had told myself didn't exist, and then I hated, but you can't hate something that doesn't exist, you know. It took me a long time to realize that, but since one bulb, yeah. Oh, it was a big it was I I like to say it was God taking that two by four up against the back of my head saying, Child, wake up now, time to wake up now.

SPEAKER_01: 14:24

Amen, right? Spare the rod, spoil the child, right? That that doesn't mean beat your kids, right? We're not talking about beating children all the time, blah blah blah. Media matters will of course want to take this out of proportion and say, Joseph M. Leonard in the Christitutional show is advocating constantly beating your no, not what either of us just said. Context matter metaphorically, metaphorically, well, no, I mean, literally a time, yeah, a threat of the belt. I got hit by the belt a few times. Uh, an empty threat is no threat at all. Sometimes you have to back it up today. Jesus God, I mean, the Bible has a lot of tough love parts and a lot of God's wrath. Again, an empty threat is a worthless threat. God also backs up his threats at times, yes. He he is he is just right, right, right, right, right. There have to be consequences at times, even the New Testament, the new way, the show I had about that. Turn the other cheek. Context. Jesus did not say be a sucker every time. He didn't say constantly just take a beating. That's not what that meant. That's not what he said. Context. At times, indeed, you have to react back in the context. The details matter, the facts matter, the situation matters, right? Try to turn the other. It's like Charlie, we're recording Saturday, uh blah blah blah. No, Wednesday, September 24th. Erica Kirk at the memorial. I forgive the shooter. That doesn't mean now, no consequence, get off scot-free. That's not what that means. Worldly earthly justice still needs to apply, but it means I we can forgive you if you'll repent, we can go lesser, but you still have to face earthly justice. There still has to be an example set, or it's anarchy. There is no government, it's just anarchy, yes.

SPEAKER_00: 17:10

No, yeah. Well, you look at the world now and you wonder. But I'm not going there. That I'm not going there. Yeah, I've I've got it. I got us way off. But forgive forgiveness, I believe in forgiveness, and I know it's also very, very hard. And like you had mentioned, Erica Kirk, and forgiveness is for our own selves. That doesn't mean we're we're justifying or thinking what the other person did is right.

SPEAKER_01: 17:39

Forgiveness is for our own soul to settle a little bit, and it's also to hopefully help prompt them to discover and repent their evil ways and come. Yeah, one would hope. Exactly. There's that word again, hope. Exactly. Thank you. I I was about to try to get us back there. The book, Nuggets of Hope. I've got us yeah, there's the book for behind the scenes viewers. They could see the comments. It's like in Romans, right? Erica forgives, she's not to seek revenge, but that doesn't mean worldly justice isn't still supposed to apply, others apply justice for her, and that's every bit for the defendant, too. No other nation on this planet has and gives evildoers the rights we do, the right to a fair trial. But indeed, back to hope. But there is hope in that, there is hope for everybody, even if you screw up, you should deal with the personal responsibility of your actions, but hope applies after that you return to society as a productive member of society, so there is even hope in all that, right?

SPEAKER_00: 19:12

And you know, and it in any circumstance, and that's that's a lot of what the book is about. In any circumstance, you can find hope every day, even if you're in your darkest days, the sun shined. There's hope in that a new day, there's hope in that.

SPEAKER_01: 19:30

Oh, now I'm gonna because of the way my OCD A D H D brain works, I'm gonna have Annie in my the son. Oh, come on, come on.

SPEAKER_00: 19:39

Apologies for you know, just as an example, a child's laughter. There's hope in that, yes, you know, just you know, a hug, a hug from a loved one. There's hope in that a smile from a stranger, there's hope in that. Yes, and that's that's what my book is about. And I share a lot of instances of how you can give hope and how you can receive hope, and above all, kindness is backing all of that up. You know, just be kind because it doesn't it doesn't cost you a dime to be kind.

SPEAKER_01: 20:11

Do you remember the movie Bruce Almighty with Jim Carrey and Morgan? Well, few remember the follow-up, Evan Almighty, with with oh uh, I could picture him. The guy from the office followed up his role in that where he's asked to build an arc.

SPEAKER_00: 20:31

The arc, yes, I saw that movie. It's and I love it.

SPEAKER_01: 20:36

Yeah, crazy, crazy, but the point is it's also a metaphor for ARK, acts of random kindness, right?

SPEAKER_00: 20:47

And I talk about it was the verse that was the John 316. That's what that was what is was in his head throughout that whole movie, remember that verse, it was constant with him, and it was always all over the place in the movie. Yeah, we don't get movies like that out of Hollywood anymore, of course.

SPEAKER_01: 21:08

No, you have to get on pure flicks to watch those kind of movies, yeah. What a shame because I I mean people think of both Bruce Almighty and Evan Almighty as comedies. Oh, Steve Carell. Yeah, and they they are, but my favorite Christian movie of all time, and you could tell me whether you've seen this or not, is called The Resurrection of Gavin Stone. Now, some Christians, yeah, some Christians, oh my god, resurrect, blasphemy, blast. Oh, come on. It's a figurative resurrection, not a literal one. Come on, Christians, we've gotta have a sense of humor. And it's a great film because it isn't reaching to the choir, it's indeed about discovering Christ through a play about the resurrection and indeed a figurative resurrection of this character, Gavin Stone, to bring him to the faith. It is in my again my favorite Christian film, second is risen, because that's uh the resurrection or the death and resurrection through the eyes of a Roman soldier, another great other ways to tell these tales rather than the stale, boring, dull, old-type Christian films we always used to get. So you didn't see it though, by no, I did not, no, at the time, no, but it sounds good, yeah. And what's really odd about that, distributed by Blumhouse, you know, the horror film people, oh, right, did Fantasy Island horror remake and the purge and all those really weird. They approached, uh, I forget which Christian Studio and said, Hey, we heard about this product project and we'd like to be involved. It's like fantastic, right? You get what would be conceivably both ends of the spectrum coming together for a good morals movie.

SPEAKER_00: 23:26

It's interesting, and anyway, my I haven't I haven't seen many movies. I don't I don't watch for I actually I don't watch much TV at all. I just because it's just so much negative stuff, and I I I don't feel the need to feed my mind with all of that.

SPEAKER_01: 23:44

Yeah, I try to avoid the boob boob type TV stuff, but yes, I'm on disability, so I am home. I have to occupy my mind with something if I'm not writing a book or recording a show or a guest on a show, the TV's on to help pass time, and I've always been a heavy theater movie goer, so I've seen a lot of movies, which is kind of weird, maybe ironic. An author who prefers the movies instead.

SPEAKER_00: 24:21

I I do like I do enjoy movies, but I haven't found any. I think I've been in the last five years been to two movies in the theater, just because nothing draws my interest that I want to spend that money to go watch it.

SPEAKER_01: 26:04

It's mostly garbage, I agree, but there are some rare gems that people don't realize that have been out there. Uh, what were the two movies now that were on the subject?

SPEAKER_00: 26:19

The one, the last one I went to see was not the most recent one, but I think it was last year, Downton Abbey, just because I wanted a movie. I wanted a movie to just go and just there's another out now.

SPEAKER_01: 26:30

There's another out there.

SPEAKER_00: 26:31

I know, and I'm gonna go see it because it's a good movie to just fall into a different era and not think about everything else. You know, I like those kind of movies. Um, the other one was wow, I can't think of the name of it, The Shack.

SPEAKER_01: 26:47

Oh, oh, oh, oh, yes. I I vaguely remember that, and that was actually a fairly positive film, too.

SPEAKER_00: 26:56

It was odd, very powerful to me anyway. Yes, very powerful, and then because I remember thinking when it left, I went, that's a pretty good description of the Trinity. Yeah, the way the way that they wove that movie together was unexpected, but I really liked it. Some people pulled it apart and you know were negative on it, not always you know what? Anyone, anyone who went to that movie and maybe was not a Christian or never been to church, never read a Bible, and they walked out and said, I think we're gonna get a Bible, maybe I'm gonna go to church. That's exactly my point.

SPEAKER_01: 27:33

Delivery the critics were saying delivery through another way to make people raise questions. Yeah, they're never gonna crack it open until they at least raise the questions. So I think that one wanted to seek the answers.

SPEAKER_00: 27:49

It was a good movie that introduced to me.

SPEAKER_01: 27:53

I I mean, I didn't hate the damn brown books and movies, yeah. While some of it was malarkey, it opened people's minds to say, well, what is fact and fiction here? Let me look. Literal Catholic nuns were out protesting the damn brown movies, and I'm like, you should be promoting the movie, it's bringing people to the Bible to seek the truth. What is fact and fiction in here? I know some of its fact, I know some of its fiction. What is the reality? It did good, and I saw nobody too this year. I wanted a mindless, worthless, shoot 'em up, violent, idiotic escape film. And all of a sudden I'm seeing a movie about family. Who put this serious stuff in my shoot-em up?

SPEAKER_00: 28:53

Oh, that's I haven't seen that one. I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 29:00

And anyway, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 29:08

You know, I read a lot. I read a lot, and a lot of what I read is just I don't read heavy, deep stuff because I get enough of that. I just read, you know, stuff that might make me smile, you know, just like watching a movie that just takes me away for a bit. So that's kind of my my relaxation type thing, you know, is reading. And I'll watch some stuff on YouTube. I don't know if you've ever watched any of the comedians on dry bar dry bar comedy. It's all no, it's all clean comedians. There's some really, really wonderful ones on there. It's hilarious. There is some of them are just you want to just sit there and laugh, try out, you know, check out some of the comedians on dry bar comedy. I do check out some of the comedians.

SPEAKER_01: 29:55

Yeah, I check out some of the comedians on YouTube. I don't know if I've viewed that particular channel or not offhand, but yeah, uh there's some hope in some of the things we're talking about, and indeed, you and I both we need more of that hopeful stuff, less of the depressing and adding uh like in the book of Kennedy and even A Lasting Legacy. I coined the term mass holes trying to be positive in a world full of mass holes who are miserable and want to try to make everyone else be miserable. We have to try to maintain our positivity and our hope. Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 30:44

No, I agree. And well, I think the this is just my opinion, and it's been done forever, it's been done for decades. It's nothing new what's what's happening and what we're being fed that in general, what the general public is being fed by the media and politicians. That's all done by design. It's all done by design, and we have to choose whether we accept it or not. And I think a lot of people now are finally waking up.

SPEAKER_01: 31:16

Only thing necessary for evil prevail, good peoples do nothing.

SPEAKER_00: 31:20

Right, exactly. And I think that there's a a large percentage of the American public that is finally waking up and saying they've been complacent and wanting to. Yeah, you know, that's not right. That's no, that didn't happen that way. And what are you talking about? And why are you gaslighting us? So I think that's another reason that I'm constantly, you know, talking about hope and tossing out nuggets of hope. And it's what I talk about on my show, and the guests that I have talk about letting go of fear and you know, sharing their hope. That's my that's my mission. And it has been it has been for the last five years. I just I was very strongly nudged by God to do this, and I realized, wow, I'm supposed to follow what He's telling me to do, even though I at times I'm stepping out way outside my comfort zone. And you know, being in places I find myself talking to people that I normally wouldn't. Have before, or approaching a stranger that I've never met and will never talk to again, but walking up to a stranger and saying, I want to give you a nugget of hope today.

SPEAKER_01: 32:26

Yeah. That's all been judged. Kennedy does that in my book too. Again, arcs of random kindness, talking to Bullseye the Clown. I've had on the show. He's mentioned in the book, been to Moscow. Smiles and rubber chickens are universal. Yeah. Right? I mean, you don't have to speak the same language to provide a nugget of hope to another. Let's touch on the global award finalist thing.

SPEAKER_00: 32:59

That you know, that was pretty exciting and unexpected. I, you know, I didn't win a ribbon or whatever, but I was a finalist, and that was way more than I anticipated. So I had submitted my book and just for the heck of it. You know, just for the heck of it. And when I got, that was I was it last year or the year before I got that. But when I got the email saying, hey, you're an award finalist, that to me was validation that my message is out there doing what it's supposed to be doing. Yeah. Yeah. I I not no, I and I don't see, I don't, I don't enter things like that often because it makes me feel I don't know, it's like I don't I don't need the pat on the back all the time.

SPEAKER_01: 33:44

Right. But sometimes, sometimes. Yeah. I I don't enter in those things much either. It goes back to like with me in 1984, I entered a CJOM over in Winter Ontario Radio Contest, write an intro for a radio play based on the song of the week, and I won. I was like, it did it is nice to have that validation that others appreciate your work, but yeah, to want to seek it all the time then potentially crosses over to the Cinehuber's. Now, generally, we would say, Well, you've got to market and promote. So, you know, an award helps you market and promote.

SPEAKER_00: 34:33

Right. So you you have to weigh it. And I'm I'm very particular because you know, you get those emails saying, Hey, we're offering this award, and I'm like, and then and fake the bias of$250. And I'm like, no, wait for an award. Scam, scam. We're talking real awards here. Yeah. So, you know, I think I've I think I've entered over the last five years, I've entered maybe three or four, and I got the award finalist for one, which was just so unexpected. And I, you know, I was like, I don't care if I won or not first, second, or third place. I'm a finalist. So that means they saw something in it, and I'm on the right track.

SPEAKER_01: 35:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_00: 35:15

With my message that I'm trying to get out there. So I'm very choosy if I if I enter anything. I honestly don't hardly, I you know, maybe one a year, maybe, if that, literally, if that. So yeah, but it was still it was still exciting to get that. And and again, yeah, you do use it for marketing because when you write a book and you're self-publishing, you're you're the whole ball of wax. You do the thing. You do all of the, you know, you make all of the all of the all of the assets that you need to market. You do all your own social media. I mean, you know, it's a one-person show on my end, you know, so it's a lot of work, and that does help. That does help having an award on as a finalist, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 35:59

So we've gone off the beaten path on quite a few things. So leave them wanting more. There's plenty of more to want now. So, where can they go to what website to indeed actually get into the nuggets of hope rather than all the malarky roads and rabbit holes I dove us down?

SPEAKER_00: 36:20

They can find the best place to go is my website, which is my name, Kim Lenlingauthor.com. That's K-I-M-L-E-N-G-L-I-N-G Author.com. My podcast is on there, my books are on there. You can find out what I'm doing, what's coming up, and my dog is my office manager. Him, his name is Dexter. So he is at the contact, he's where you contact me because he reviews all the emails and lets me know what's going on as my office manager. So he keeps me on track so you can meet Dexter on there as well.

SPEAKER_01: 36:53

He takes them and buries them all in the yard.

SPEAKER_00: 36:56

Oh, he's very good at his job. He's very good at his job because that's another thing I am in my life is an advocate for um adopting dogs from shelter.

SPEAKER_01: 37:05

For babies, yes, amen.

SPEAKER_00: 37:07

Yeah, so he's a he's a big part of my life. He's a big part of my life, but that's the best place to find me. My books are all on Amazon, and I have a new one, a new e-book coming out, not paperback yet, but it will be. But a new e-book coming out in November called 15 Ways Pets Teach Us Kindness. So that is coming out November 4th, and you can pre-order that now on Amazon.

SPEAKER_01: 37:30

Yeah, I in one of my books I go into that. Yeah, pets and the people who don't have pets or people. The problem, those who are mean to pets or abusive towards pets tend to then potentially go on to be abusive towards humans, people, and that's a red flag. So pets are important for many reasons as an indicator of how what kind of human that human will be. Yeah, well, I trust my dog more than I trust people. I hear you. All right, thank you, Kim Langling, for stopping by. Take care, God bless. Thank you. Thank you for tuning in to books. There will be several different books, authors, several different authors, books, authors, weeks for October of 2025. And remember, you can check out my books at josephmleonard.us slash shop. And again, Joseph M. Leonard, it looks French, it's French, it's not Lennard, it's Leonard without an O. And I have to put the middle initial in there because there is a Joseph Lennard, who is also a Christian author out of South Carolina, so I have to make that distinction. And going in line with books, author's weeks, I've joked as guests on other shows. I am not he, he is not me, and neither of us will be confused for Shakespeare. And frankly, most writers out there are not going to be confused for Shakespeare. They're not trying to be. But hey, it's a new millennia, people. Right? This is the here and now. It isn't Shakespearean Renaissance area. If you're looking for Shakespeare, reread Shakespeare. Take care, God bless. Love you all. Like and subscribe to Christitutionalist Politics Podcast and share episodes. We need your help. Thank you for having tuned in for Christitutionalist Politics Show. If you haven't already, please check out my primary internationally available book, Terror Strike, coming soon to a city near you. Available anywhere books are sold. If you have locally run bookstores still near you, they can order it for you. And let me remind, over time the fancy high production items will come, but for now, for starters, it's just you as a very appreciated listener by me, all substance, no flaw, just straight to key discussion point, a show that looks at a variety of topics, mostly politics, through a Christian U.S. Constitutional Fund. So again, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Take care. God bless.