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CTP (S3EOctSpecial12) Military Sci‑Fi, Faith, And The Human Condition
[BOOKS / AUTHORS Weeks - Week 2 sub-episode 5 (Fri. 20251024)]
We sit down with Jeffrey H. Haskell to explore why military sci‑fi still hits hard: ships as characters, faith on the bridge, and the line between honor and horror. From Alaska to a thousand years ahead, we trace how real people behave when the stakes rise.
• Books Authors Weeks context and setup
• Jeffrey’s Alaska upbringing and Army background
• Late dyslexia discovery shaping writing craft
• What makes military sci‑fi distinct and durable
• Sci‑fi as a mirror for human nature and ethics
• Far‑future setting in our galaxy and its politics
• Faith on a warship with diverse beliefs aboard
• Star Trek influences, pain, and identity
• Villains with nuance and historical parallels
• Reading widely to build judgment and resilience
• Classic authors, censorship worries, and morals
• Ships as characters and classical prose choices
• Mystery‑box pitfalls and leadership realism
• Where to find Grimm’s War and author links  JefferyHHaskel.com  


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SPEAKER_01:

Welcome to Institutionalist Politics Podcast, aka C T P. I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. C T P is your no must, no fuss, just me, you, and occasional guest type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. Graham Norton will say, let's get on with the show. Hello everyone. Welcome to Books, Authors Weeks. October of 2025. I had Health Weeks in February 2025. I had a Music Weeks, three of those in the month of March 2025. So here we are, October. I have a lot of fellow authors. I had the chance to have discussions with, though. Books, authors, weeks, October 25. Without further ado, let's head into a discussion with a fellow author. Hello everyone. Welcome to another Christitutionalist podcast. Authors Books Authors Week. Joining me today is Jeffrey. And I say that slowly, cautiously. It's Jeffrey, not Jeffrey. Jeffrey H. Haskell. Welcome to the show, Jeff.

SPEAKER_02:

Thanks, Joseph. I appreciate you being here.

SPEAKER_01:

And you are one of Mickey Mickelson's crew. I speak with a lot of them. And you are the author of Against All Odds, Grimm's War Book One. And for the sake of the BitChute, Brighton, Daily Motion in France, Rumble, YouTube, he held up the cover. You could see it on the video behind the scenes channels. For those audio only in the transcript, again, it's against all odds. Grimm's War Book One. But before we go to the book, the Christian show, so the joke, the proverbial first question. Obvious. Where were you born? Where were you raised? Where are you now? All those. How much time did you spend in prison and for what?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, of all the places I've been, prison isn't one of them.

SPEAKER_01:

Yet, there's still time for you. Yeah, there's that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I have daughters, so it's entirely possible I might go to prison one day.

SPEAKER_01:

For the benefit of the transcript, we're laughing. These are jokes. Anyway, yeah. Where indeed were you born and raised, and you are now?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, where I was born in California, but we didn't live there very long. I was raised in Alaska. I spent most of my life in a place called Ketchkin. Well, most of my youth in a place called Ketchkin. It's the first city in the southeast Alaska panhandle off the coast of Canada. It's a very small town, 3,000 people at its height. And it's a fishing, logging, tourism town. It's very interesting growing up on an island. You don't have a lot to do except for drink and get in trouble. And I didn't drink, though I did get in trouble. I did love growing up telling stories and reading books. So I spent a lot of time at the local library and playing Dungeons and Dragons, which is, I think, part of why I became such a good storyteller. And the funny thing about Catch Can is there are 27 bars on a town in a town of 3,000, but there are something like 40 churches. So I didn't go to church too. So I'm here to avoid not ever drinking. So uh you are where now? Uh now I currently live in West Jordan, Utah with my wife and six kids.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. And yeah, catch can. I'm thinking it got the name because people would try to catch a fish and haul up more cans than fish.

SPEAKER_02:

There's a lot of uh there's a lot of uh uh stories about how it got its name, but the no one ever seemed to know exactly what it was.

SPEAKER_01:

Nobody ever officially wrote it down for historical record, apparently, huh?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, the island itself was called Ravija Gajero, which is a Spanish name because Captain Cook is one of the ones who found it. But the natives called the area that the the they settled Quetchan, so you know it's a native Alaskan name of some kind. Okay, I promise you though, it has no deep meaning.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it does to the natives, obviously, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

After that, I I joined the army and spent some time there, and then after that, I did a lot of tech support and stuff like that with computers.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm a former IT guy, so yeah, I was helped desk.

SPEAKER_02:

So yeah, but through all of it, I've always been telling stories and writing stuff and trying to be a better writer. I probably would have broken sooner had I not realized, had I not had I realized that I had was dyslexic, you know, much sooner in my life. I didn't realize I was dyslexic until I was in my 40s. And once I realized I was dyslexic, I was able to take some steps to cope with it, and my writing got a whole lot better. Like I could spell words and put sentences together. All things are important when you're trying to tell a story.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. And so, how did Against All Odds come about as a story?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh, I love military sci-fi, it's my favorite genre.

SPEAKER_01:

I have been reading it since I was a little kid, and then that's an important distinction. You said military sci-fi.

SPEAKER_02:

They I mean, I love sci-fi, don't get me wrong. I love science fiction, I also love fantasy, not as much, but I do. But military sci-fi is a subset of science fiction that deals specifically with people in the military, usually in the far future, but not necessarily, and how they handle the evolution of technology and how it affects their lives while fighting wars and being in actions. If you ever watch Stargate or Star Trek or even Star Wars to some degree, you kind of have an idea of what military sci-fi is.

SPEAKER_01:

If you're Stargate, Roland Emmerich, the mastermind behind that, as well as Independence Day, the day after tomorrow. Mere a moon. Two really good movies you mentioned there. Yeah, Moonfall was one of his latest. Wuhan hysteria kind of killed that one, but it's based on the you know, the uh the hollow earth theory. But no, the moon being artificially made rather than actually being a moon theory. Moonfall's another one of his way over the top, you know, just ridiculous action and kind of stuff. Great.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, the moon as an intergalactic spaceship is a great is a great story. And that deals with that.

SPEAKER_01:

It's a great movie. I highly recommend it. Stargate, uh they're supposed to reboot that. He's been trying to reboot that for years now. He finally apparently begged off. MGM has been going back and forth. So he said, I'm done, I'm out of here. So hopefully, people at least that were involved with the TV show, which to me that was my favorite TV show ever, because it wasn't just sci-fi, it dealt with a lot of human nature stories, as did the originals, all the Star Trek do.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, it's it's something sci-fi does really well because it allows you, it it's sort of a trick, right? So when you put spaceships and blasters and aliens in a story, it allows you to tell things that you otherwise could, because it'd be too obvious. It allows you to put your heroes in positions to be emotional and to be fragile and to point lights at the human condition that in a regular drama where you're surrounded by the human condition, it would be two on the nose, and it would be obvious what you were doing. But the with science fiction, you can tell a lot of wonderful stories, and because it's decorated in the future with technology, and sometimes it's it's like you know, super technology might as well be magic, like in Star Trek. The the story, the human element becomes even more obvious because you're paying more attention to that because it's being highlighted by all the advanced technology. Yeah, that's what I like to do with military sci-fi. You know, I put men and women in situations where they are in today, but now they're in space, in a spaceship fighting, you know, a war, and you get to see them uh and how they deal with the changes in warfare, the changes in technology, and and and and the the not changes. The the the idea of humanity evolving and changing is kind of a misnomer because we don't, we don't really change. And sometimes you can look at events today, and if you take away the date and you just look at the events, you'd be like, Well, Israel's fighting a war, Russia's invaded a neighbor.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, these are all very familiar events, yeah, yeah. Human nature, right? That's human nature. It's been human nature, thousands of years, and yeah, the time and the place may change, but the themes are usually the same because of human nature, and God gave us free will, so some choose evil.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, absolutely. One of the oldest recorded writings in cuneiform is inventory for tax purposes in a store in the Middle East. So it's like, yeah, people don't really change all that much.

SPEAKER_01:

Now you mention military sci-fi, and you also mention you like fantasy. What comes to my mind then is Avatar. I like the first movie because the special effects are great. Zero interest in seeing basically the same movie over and over in 10 million sequels, but you know, that takes place way, way out there somewhere. But military sci-fi kind of is a part of that. Does your book take place at least in our uh solar system, or indeed is it out there somewhere?

SPEAKER_02:

I really like far future science fiction. I like to get far enough away from Earth that you can do all kinds of really cool things and have different kinds of planets and different stars and different solar systems. So while my characters haven't visited Earth per se in the books, the exists in our galaxy. It's in our, you know, it's in our it's called Perseus Arm, the the the the the Orion spur that we're in. So it's in our local galaxy. And their government, my main character's government, this is called the Systems Alliance. It is part of four or five big governments, and one of them is the Terran Republic. So, and they're allies. So there is mention of Earth, it but it's a thousand years in the future, and it involves you know intergalactic politics and warfare, and the if you can see it, if you're on one of the YouTube channels or or Rumble or whatnot, you can see the ship behind me. It's the USS Interceptor, it's it's one of the main characters in the book series, and it's the the main character, Jacob T. Grimms, it's his ship.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's uh yeah, a thousand years in the future. If the planet's still here, you know, probably will be. Yeah, it's gonna be here no matter what, right? He may not be, but the planet works. I mean, ever yeah, I mean, even right after Christ's time, there were those with the end is nigh signs, right? We're always in the end times for the last 2,000 years.

SPEAKER_02:

So if you remove the date, and people saying that you know the apocalypse is nigh is pretty common throughout history.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep. Uh, is there any of those type apocalyptic themes involved since we accidentally went there?

SPEAKER_02:

The uh the kind of the the the main character is a navy, a navy captain, and he's actually Christian, and there is talk of God, and I know it's sacrilegious to have talk of God in a sci-fi novel, and have anybody.

SPEAKER_01:

One of my favorite Star Trek films is Five, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Why did God need a spaceship?

SPEAKER_01:

Bingo.

SPEAKER_02:

That's the great thing about Star Trek. That was such the great thing about Star Trek, is it you could tell stories like that, and while Five isn't like the most well produced for a lot of reasons, mostly because it was strike at the time, the the theme of it was really, really, really great. And you know, you can have a lot of religious people and anti-religious people get upset with me for having Christianity in my books because the religious people are like, Well, some of them, anyways, you oh well, the second coming will have happened by then, and you won't, you know, so your books don't make any sense. And the anti-religious people are like, We'll have outgrown religion. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00:

So point to me like break into the song, imagine, right? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Point to me in the last 8,000 years where we've outgrown religion. Um, so you know, but I obviously I'm a man of faith, and it's extremely important to me. So, and it's not just Christianity, then the captain being Christian, you know. Um, one of the characters is from a Japanese colonized world, and she's Shintu. Um, one of the characters, um God bless you, Kazunite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the you know, there's lots of opposing viewpoints. It's not just I'm not just cramming one viewpoint down anybody's throat, not cramming anything down anybody's throat. I'm a much better writer than that, I hope. The uh but the butt yeah, the story takes place a thousand years in the future, and there's lots of exploration of the human condition, and that's what I uh also I loved about Star Trek V.

SPEAKER_01:

You know, putting aside all of a sudden we find a long-lost stepbrother to to spock we didn't know about for five decades, but you know, you know, let me take your pain via the thought, right? And Kirk appropriately. No, I need my absolutely all your life, cumulative good and bad events make you who you are today. Without that, you're not you.

SPEAKER_02:

Most of my important life lessons I learned growing up because my my my family was broken. Uh my parents got divorced when I was young, and most of my life lessons and most of my outlook on life came from watching the original Star Trek. You know, the my love of science fiction came from watching the original Star Trek. And you know, Jacob T. Grimm is you know very much a version of William Shatner's, you know, James T. Kirk.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's that's good to hear. Good to hear that. I like that. And one of my favorite original Star Trek episodes was, and it's amazing it got made, was the sun, where they visit a planet. Yeah, and no, they're not worshiping the sun in the sky, they're worshiping the sun, Jesus, son of God, who is also visiting that planet. And Gene Gene Roddenbering being a devout atheist, it's amazing how that and several others religious themes in them.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, he was, you know, he he understood that the human he understood the human condition very, very well. And of course, he didn't also write all the episodes either. I don't know if I wrote that one or not. I'm I bet he didn't. Yeah. But you know, when you understand, you can write things that you don't agree with. In fact, you have to write things you don't agree with when you're the author. The idea that you agree with everything every character says and does in a book is kind of ridiculous. Like my villains are pretty terrible, and I disagree with them and on everything that they stand for because they want to enslave humanity and they want to they have these collars that they put on people that make them slaves, and you know, they uh bomb planets from orbit to wipe out the civilian population when it when they want to. And so there is there is even in even in the face of that terrible evil, I still find characters in that situation who are part of that empire, who are noble and honorable and are doing the best they can in a terrible situation because people are like that. You know, the during world war two, the and this is a very unpopular opinion, and and they're gonna be people who are gonna mad at me for it, but during World War II, our Allied prisoners of war in Germany were put under the command of the Luftwaffe. The Luftwaffe one ran the that's the German Air Force, they ran the prisons for the Allied prisoners, and the Luftwaff refused to torture prisoners, they refused to you know summarily execute them. They treated them actually as good as they were allowed to treat them until the SS showed up and you know would start executing them. So even when you're fighting forces of evil, there's always going to be people inside those forces of evil that aren't you know necessarily bad, but they're in a position where this is their country and this is what they're doing. And you know, just like you and me being in the American military, we're we took an oath and we're doing our best to serve our country. And I try to have those viewpoints spread throughout the books so no one thinks that like I'm again trying to cram anything down anybody's throat. I'm just trying to tell a story as honestly as I can while showing both the the honor and the horror of war and having realistic characters that people really love.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, you said a few things that I'm glad you said, one being like the the the some good within the evil there, right? Like I at one time, full disclosure, owned a Porsche 944.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, I've got to disconnect this call right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Frederick Porsche, the inventor of the Volkswagen, the people's car, commissioned by Hitler. Does that make Volkswagen and Porsche evil? No, he was a man doing the best he could during an evil period of time. He was helping German citizens, the uh creation of the Beetle. And how many Beatles have been sold over how many decades, right? Anyone who drinks Fanta, the pop, that came because Coca-Cola refused to send the syrup to Coca-Cola bottlers in Germany during the regime. So they used what they had, and Fanta, the pop was born. Do you drink Fanta? Does that make you a Nazi? No, I mean, come on, people. And the other thing you said was not everything about your character. You have to agree. I'm so glad you said that. I have that conversation. Like my terror strikes coming soon to a city near you book. Martin is not me. There is a lot of me in Martin, but not everything in Martin is me. He is a conglomeration of a bunch of people in a fictional character. As you said, you don't have to agree with, and that bothers me when people read books at times. They get upset because there's something, an opinion they don't like. Well, that may or may not be the opinion of the author. It may be there as fodder for conflict. It may be exactly the opposite of what Jeffrey H. Haskell believes, but it's there to spur part of the story, yes?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, absolutely. And that's all the more important reason why you should read more and have your kids read more when they're younger. So they're exposed to different ideas while their minds are still capable of grasping and learning what ideas are good and what ideas are bad. You know, one of the downfalls, I think, of our current modern society is that the it's just in the college and they've never they've never been exposed to an idea that they didn't agree with. And all of a sudden it's like the world has come to an end because now they're their brains are desperately trying to justify their own position, otherwise cause emotional pain.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, snowflakes melting back.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. You know, I read lots of books growing up, and sometimes I liked the heroes and sometimes I didn't, but I had a solid grasp of what was right and wrong from reading books, you know, among other things, the whole time I was growing up, so that when I became an adult, and I could I could look around and I can see, like, oh, what you're doing is wrong, what you're doing is right. And here is all the evidence I have over years of reading and reading and reading, both history and fiction, of how someone should behave when they're when they're behaving correctly and how they behave when they're when they're lying, you know. And so it's it's reading is really important. It's it's dare I say, fundamental.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and uh you referred to confirmation bias, and indeed, it's why we have Aesop's Fables, Dr. Seuss, we all stuff, Dahl, who now they want to rewrite all his books for the woke era. No, they had good moral. The three little pigs isn't just about three little pigs, right? The golden goose story is important to understand about governance concepts. If you kill the golden goose in fiction, it works the same in reality. You kill the golden goose, there's no more gold. But people want to change all these stories to some new woke agenda idiocy, and kids aren't getting the positive morals they once did.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, one of my one of my one of the reasons why I wrote this series was that I I was reading a very uh popular space opera series, military sci-fi series by David Weber called The Honor Harrington Verse, which I absolutely love. It's one of my favorite book series of all time. And I got to the end of it, and there just wasn't anything else like it out there, nothing about spaceships. And I, you know, I grew up watching Star Trek and Robotech and Battlestar Galactica and you know, Space Battleship Yamato, and I love spaceships. And one of the reasons why, for the majority of the series, the Interceptor is the ship of choice, is because I wanted the ship to be a character in the story, and I wanted it kind of to endure. And so I tend to write more classical sci-fi. You know, my editor says that I write older than I am, and you know that that could be true.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm not hey, you're wise beyond your years.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, it's just that uh I I read all the classics over and over and over again because up until recently you couldn't publish books very fast. And so one of my favorite authors is Ben Bova, and he started a series in the 70s called Orion, and I love that series. And he would write a book every three or four years, and so there's only like five or six books in the series. And so when I was a kid, if you wanted sci-fi, new sci-fi, you would read the one new sci-fi that came out that year, and then you just reread everything that you've already read.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I love of course. Going back, I'm sure you read all the HG Wells books, right? Philip K. Dick does great short stories like Minority Report came out. What was the one with Harrison Ford? They redid Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. Yeah, well, I'm thinking of Blade Runner. That's the title I was trying to do.

SPEAKER_02:

The short story was do Android Electric Sheep.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Heinland, I love right there. Um Armed Society is a polite society. Well, yes, because morons, that's unlike spaghetti western movies, there aren't there weren't in the wild, wild west shootouts every five seconds, right? Because everyone was armed. That's why a sheriff could manage several counties. Everybody was armed, and we kind of self-policed ourselves. You would have to be really stupid or insane to pull a gun on an innocent person in a saloon, because then you're gonna have 12 other innocent, good law-abiding citizens drawing down on you. So you're either stupid or have a death wish.

SPEAKER_02:

It's part of why stories like Billy the Kid, Lincoln County Wars, Tombstone, why they've all endured, because those were the exceptions, not the rule. And I I draw from history. I mean, I love reading about history, I love watching documentaries about history, and so I draw a lot from history for my stories because again, we just you know, we don't repeat history, but there are a lot of similarities between now.

SPEAKER_01:

It rhymes a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I I don't remember who coined that about indeed. It may not repeat, but it sure rhymes a lot, yeah. Absolutely, as we said, human nature, right? As long as humans are involved in the circumstances, a lot of things are going to be similar.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, you know, people like money and power, and they like having lots of money and power over everybody else, so I don't really see that changing anytime soon. There's no lightened, enlightened involved that's gonna happen that's suddenly gonna make people not want money and power.

SPEAKER_01:

That was another great, excuse me, Star Trek episode. Pike establishes Nazism on the planet. Do you remember that one? The original Star Trek episode with uh with the Nazi uniforms, yes, it wasn't Pike, but it was Pike was the previous captain of the ship, but it was a it was a professor that taught at the academy that Kirk was familiar with because he felt it was an efficient government to do things at that place, that time on that planet. It wasn't that it was a glorification of Hitler or whatever, but indeed the human nature thing came through, and there it wasn't anti-Semitism, it was another form of anti-subculture hate uh that also happened to evolve under the same conditions. Again, a great mind freak episode, right? Make to try to make people think, but unfortunately, most people act emotionally hysterical rather than think.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face, and I feel like everybody thinks they know what they're doing until everything goes crazy, and then they don't. And you know, that was most of the original Star Trek episodes, there were a few, there were a few bad eggs, but most of them were amazing and told really interesting stories that really at the end of the episode got you thinking about life and the and you know how people behave. And one of the best things you can do as a writer, one of the best things I I think you can do as a writer, is no matter the setting or the the genre, you know, you can get some pretty wild settings, you know, really far future, 10,000 years, dune, you know, or in alternate worlds, you know, like Dragon Lance. But as long as the people behave the way people behave, you know, everybody you buy everything else. It's easy to buy everything else because you don't have people behaving in a way that doesn't seem like humans behave. The perfect example I have it of is Lost. I love that show, but it drove me crazy that none of these high powered people, you know, soldiers, doctors, all the law enforcement, none of them seem to want to take charge. Because you can't have someone take charge in a TV show. It's got to be all co led. And so I just it drove me nuts watching that show week after week because they would keep writing episodes about how nobody wanted to be in charge. Well, you just do what you want to do, and we'll just all figure it out. And that just doesn't work. And it was really frustrating because it's hard to buy into everything else when the people don't act like human beings would act in a situation like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I agree with you. I didn't watch doggone, I got a frog in my throat. I didn't watch Lost when it first came on, but years later I binge watched all of it and absolutely loved the series indeed. Like it seems like the series manifest came out of that in a way. Did yeah, are you familiar with that series, Manifest? No, about the plane that disappeared. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, a lot of um, a lot of Lost was so insanely popular for the network. I mean, it made so much money for the network. They immediately started applying that formula to everything. Formula, if you watch a show that is 50% flashbacks, it's because of Lost. It drives me nuts. I hate flashbacks. I'm just please tell the story. I don't need to be constantly flashing back to another time period with characters I don't care about. And is but yeah, that's the legacy of Lost is those flashbacks in JJ Abrams' mystery box, which is a terrible storytelling technique, but works really well in the short form of movies and TV shows. Doesn't work so well in novels because in novels, people have time to think about what they're reading, and they have time to, if you're if you're a good writer, anyways, they think about what they've read and they puzzle things together. And if you do a the mystery box, is basically what you do is you always have a mystery that's running, and right before you reveal the mystery, you reveal something else that makes whatever that mystery was null and void, just unimportant. Because now this new mystery is even more important. So instead of revealing what the what the smoke arms were, they gave you the the underground complex with the beeping numbers, and just before you find out what the numbers are, oh, they reveal this other thing that makes the numbers unimportant because now you're onto this new mystery, and it's it's super for me as a storyteller, it's super obvious and hugely frustrating to watch. So I don't do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh well, time flies, as they say, when you're having fun, right? I try absolutely to have 30-minute or less episodes, I call it today's Twitter attention span, right? Oh, explain it to me in a 30-second TikTok. No, it doesn't details matter, people, but if a show gets too long, you know, that's too long. I ain't gonna waste my time. Well, that could be the best episode ever, but if it's three hours long, very few are watching. So a website where people could find you Jeffrey H Haskell.com.

SPEAKER_02:

Pretty easy, all one word. And you can also just go on Amazon and search for Against the Live Screams of War or Jeffrey H. Haskell, and I'll be in Barnes and Noble on October 21st, nationwide.

SPEAKER_01:

Cool, cool. All right, thank you, Jeffrey H. Oh, the middle initial. Was there another Jeffrey Haskell? You had to put the middle initial like I am Joseph M. Leonard, it looks French, it's not Lennard, it's Leonard without an O, but there is a Joseph Lennard out of South Carolina who is also a Christian author. So I had to make sure my middle initial is in there to make the distinction. Why is your middle initial in there?

SPEAKER_02:

When uh I first started publishing, I had to decide what I wanted to publish under, and my wife wrote my name in a bunch of different ways, and we both decided that Jeffrey H. Haskell sounded like an author, and Jeff Haskell did not.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Jeff Haskell, too informal, right? Jeffrey H. Haskell, because again, despite the don't judge a book by its cover, which you should never do with humans, we're all individuals and the content of our character is what matters, right? Judging by a book, they do judge by the cover, an author name, right? Oh, well, that sounds PhD-ish, so he must be a good author, even though there may not be any connection there. People think that way. Absolutely. All right, thank you, Jeffrey H. Haskell, uh Askell. Ask a more question. No, it's Haskell against all odds, Grimm's War Book One. Thank you for stopping by. I take care. God bless.

SPEAKER_02:

My pleasure, sir. You have a great day.

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Thank you for tuning in to books. There will be several different books, authors, several different authors, books, authors, weeks for October of 2025. And remember, you can check out my books at josephmleonard.us slash shop. And again, Joseph M. Leonard, it looks French. It's French, it's not Lennard, it's Leonard without an O. And I have to put the middle initial in there because there is a Joseph Lennard, who is also a Christian author out of South Carolina, so I have to make that distinction. And going in line with books, authors of weeks, I've joked as guests on other shows. I am not he, he is not me, and neither of us will be confused for Shakespeare. And frankly, most writers out there are not going to be confused for Shakespeare. They're not trying to be. But hey, it's a new millennia, people. Right? This is the here and now. It isn't Shakespearean Renaissance area. If you're looking for Shakespeare, reread Shakespeare. Take care. God bless. Love you all. Like and subscribe to Christitutionalist Politics Podcast and share episodes. We need your help. Thank you for having tuned in for Christitutionalist Politics Show. If you haven't already, please check out my primary internationally available book, Terror Strikes, coming soon to a city near you. Available anywhere books are sold. If you have locally run bookstores still near you, they can order it for you. And let me remind, over time the fancy high production items will come. But for now, for starters, it's just you as a very appreciated listener by me, all substituents, no fluff, just straight to key discussion point, a show that looks at a variety of topics, mostly politics, through a Christian U.S. constitutional plan. So again, thank you from the bottom of my heart. Take care. God bless.

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