CTP (S3E124) Stay Or Leave The UN

CTP (S3E124) Stay Or Leave The UN
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond  
We argue for staying in the UN to protect U.S. leverage while cutting waste and tightening accountability. Veto power, incentives, and realistic reforms beat the false purity of withdrawal.
• difference between defunding waste and abandoning influence
• why veto power blocks harmful resolutions
• practical ways to exert more control and pressure
• bold ideas like relocating UN headquarters
• interdependence and the limits of isolationism
• logic over feelings as the standard for debate
• invitation to challenge the argument with evidence
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Chapters

• 0:00 Opening And Thesis: Stay In UN
• 1:49 Defund Vs Withdraw: Key Distinction
• 4:30 Veto Power And Real-World Consequences
• 7:35 Calling For More Influence, Not Less
• 10:56 Relocating The UN: Bold Proposals
• 15:43 Reality Check: Interdependence Over Isolation
• 19:13 Logic Over Feelings: Change My Mind
• 23:48 Final Riff, Links, And Support Appeal

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:00

Welcome to the Constitutionalist Politics Podcast, aka C T P. I'm your host, Joseph M. Leonard, and that's L-E-N-A-R-D. CTP is your no must, no fuss, just me, you, and occasional guests, type podcast. Really appreciate you tuning in. Hello everyone. Welcome to season three, episode 124. Saturday, November the first. I'm pre-recording this, so but planning season three, 124, 11.1. Uh bottom line. You can rant and rave, like I will, in the extended version of this, about how your libertarian position is so superior and so principled. But bottom line, if you want to pull from the UN, is you want to weaken the US on the world stage. You want to retreat from the world and pretend it doesn't exist and doesn't affect us. You want to embolden our enemies. Period. End of story, end of discussion. Again, write and rave all you like about the principle you want to embolden our enemies and weaken the US. Period. Bottom line. Now that's no fun. That'd be no uh what? It took me what one minute 30 seconds to say that? End of show? No, of course not. So here now will be the long version and go into yes, we should defund the UN, we should stop giving them so much money, we should exert more power and control there, not surrender and run away, run and hide and let our enemies be emboldened. So on with the what was video exclusive for the extended version, but bottom line, I could end the episode now. But please listen to the rest of the logic and reason why it's a dumb idea for the U for you for the US to just pull from the UN entirely. Thank you all. Take care, God bless. Hello. Pardon, I'm in my nightclothing, ready to head to bed. In fact, I'm not gonna edit this, it'll wait till tomorrow, but I needed to record it. The United Nations. All right, the argument's been going on for a long time. Should we pull out of the United Nations? Well, uh put to a poll, another person on True Social was asking about uh since Trump was mentioning, defunding the UN. So I conducted a poll, which of course is like 98% yes. Should we defund the United Nations? That's an obvious. We already host it. It's here in the United States, it's here in New York City. We're bearing that cost already with everybody coming here to attend UN meetings. So yeah, no brainer. We should not be funding it. We're hosting it. Let other nations pony up the cash to fund it. But withdraw? Now, I'm purposefully, willfully, and malice of forethought going to be a bit harsh with those who think, yeah, we should pull out of the UN. Okay. So your solution to having a tantrum that things don't always go our way at the UN is to surrender, to just withdraw and surrender to our enemies. That's your answer. Just let China and Russia run rough shot over it entirely, right? Uh Google. Duck to go, Jim Roo, Free Spoke, whatever. Google what UN resolutions in the last 50 years has the United States used its UN veto to block from passing as a UN resolution? Well, you you you know, you can make that question more concise. You should get the point. Please. So so your idea is to surrender and just pull out are you you happy with those hundred, two hundred, five hundred, whatever that number is. Look at each of those UN resolutions that we vetoed, that if we weren't there to block, all right, if we surrender, if we pull out that, Russia and China can just put right back before the UN and with their fellow allies and stooge nations without the US there to veto, can ram through. You're happy with Russia and China getting whatever resolution through the UN that they want. You're happy with that. Right? Surrender, just surrender, just pull out of the UN. No, we need to exert more pressure, more authority, more control in the UN, not less, let alone for sure, not just surrender and take our we're gonna take our ball and go home. Oh, we're so done with you people. Now again, I'm I'm I'm purposely being aggressive and harsh and a bit of a bully here about your position to make a point. I'm not trying to belittle you. I'm not trying to um I am trying to badger and bully you to make a point. Uh the the bullies will get their way if you surrender. You just take your ball and go home and pretend it is irrelevant. Oh my god, you know, you're nothing without me. Please grow up. Use your brain. Now I understand the knee-jerk emotional reaction to the argument. Taking the UN out of New York? Well, that's again another reasonable discussion to have. I've said all along, it's time to put the United Nations building in Jerusalem. Why? Then all those terrorist supporting nations have to have their diplomats in Jerusalem at risk of being murdered by the terrorist organizations they support. Put them in harm's way. Maybe their policy will change a little if they're actually at risk, if they are actually threatened, if they could be assassinated by terrorists because the UN is in Jerusalem, or Beirut, Lebanon, or Gaza City, or right? This isn't difficult to figure out. There are solutions far short of the moronic. Again, I'm purposefully being aggressive because it is moronic. I'm gonna take my ball and go home and pretend nothing bad will happen. You're being as delusional as a leftist. You cannot leave the UN to Russian, North Korean, Iranian, Russian uh uh majority influence. Are you that dumb that you can't see that? At this point, I would hope if you're a thinker, you've changed your position. If you're not, then you're not worth my time. You can't think, you don't use logic, you have no reason, you have no especially common sense. Look at the world, how it operates, how it has been operating, look at human nature, and tell me we don't have to be there to be the adult in the room. We can let the children run amok without any parental control. This isn't tough to understand. All you have to do is actually stop and think about it. Not be emotional. Oh my god, I'm gonna take my polyco. Anyway, I I had to record that. I'm heading to bed now. Tomorrow I'll actually get up and edit and post. I think this is I'm writing it down. No, yeah, it's not number 14, because I remember joking with the foot, putting up 10 fingers and five toes, saying, one short of 15. I'm not gonna show my ugly foot again. But yeah, 50 10 plus imagine five toes, video exclusive 15. It'll be up tomorrow. What is tomorrow? Saturday, September the 27th. I'll get it all together and get it up. Get it onto the video platforms. Thank you all. Take care. God bless. If there's a flaw in my logic here, josephmunner.us slash contact. Josephmlunner.us slash contact. If you can point out with logic and reason and not, oh my god, you're so wrong. Feelings, nonsense. I'll come back and do another video and then I'm wrong. Why you're right and convinced me. You put I'm human. I I've said it before, I'm human, I'm flawed, I'm frail, I'm imperfect. I can change if given proper fact-based information, logic and reason and common sense, right? The Charlie Kirk thing, right? Change my mind with logic and reason. Change my mind if you think you can. Be open to my changing your mind, or you're not a thinker. You're not a thinker. If you think you can change everybody else's mind, but there's no way in hell your mind could ever be changed. You're not a thinker. Hubris, CTP Ford, right just came up, only 99 cents because it's about info, not profit. I I make a few pennies. Amazon, you know, probably not happy either because they don't make anywhere near as much as a normal ebook, but 99 cents is the bare minimum price they allow anyone to put something on their platform. So CTP4 is there for 99 cents. The bare minimum, they'll let me. They're not making a whole lot, but they're making a whole lot more than me. I make a few pennies. Right? Because it's not about profit. Not like I'm against profit. Again, oh season uh three, episode 121, October 11th, we'll be dropping about capitalism and profits, right? So, oh, I'm all for profits, but in this case, the information really needs to get out. So I put it out for the bare minimum possible. Uh, it's only 10 chapters, so I could have it small and indeed qualify for 99 cents ebook. Um I I lost my train of thought. Yeah, change my mind, right? Change my mind if you can. Uh, be open to my changing your mind. Uh yeah, I'm tired. I need to go to bed. Lost my train of thought there. But again, yes, pulling out of the UN, whole lot of dumb reasons. Again, Google, Google, what did the US veto in the UN in the last 50 years? And tell me, please, honestly, again, tell me, oh, you're perfectly fine with that. You're perfectly fine with Russia doing this and China doing that, and North Korea and Iran and Iran and Iran doing this through the UN. You're perfectly fine with all that. Just so you could take your ball and go home and to hell with the rest of the world as if pretend this is like the 1500s and the oceans protect us. There aren't these things called intercontinental ballistic missiles or intercontinental bombers and submarines with nuclear-tipped weaponry parked right off our coast. Oh, the oceans okay, Neville Chamberlain. Well, America First was never America alone or America only. Isolationism and taking the ball and going home and pretending what happens over there could never in a million years affect us here. Is idiot think. Idiot think. It's Neanderthal, Neanderthal think. Anyway, okay. I gotta go to bed. Take care, God bless, love y'all. Okay, I lied. No, of course I didn't lie. I went to bed, I'm back up again. Because of course, now I'm all riled up, I can't go to sleep. I gotta finish this, gotta put it online before I'm gonna be able to get to sleep. So let me add some additional thoughts. I may not like reality, you may not like reality, but reality is reality. Like it or not, you gotta deal with it. Or you're a leftist lunatic, delusional moron, right? Uh this happens to be a black sharpie, right? I carry around a red sharpie in my pants to sign books with. Uh now if I happen to want but let's talk about this since I got in my hand, right? I may not like that this sharpie is a black tip sharpie. I may want it to be a blue-tip sharpie. And I can rant and rave at it all damn day and night. I can try voodoo magic. Woo woo woo woo woo. You're now a blue sharpie. You're now it's still a black sharpie. I don't have to like it. I may want a blue sharpie, but what I got is a black sharpie. That is the reality. That is what I have to if I don't like this being a black sharpie, I gotta go to the 71 or whatever's open and buy a blue sharpie to replace it. Right? Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. I don't like that the ocean appears blue. I want it to be magenta, damn it. I'm gonna take my ball and go home if you don't say the ocean looks magenta. Right? Columbus sailed the ocean magenta in 1400 and blah blah blenta. No, that's not how it works. That's not reality. Deal in reality. Reality is I don't I I would love, I would really love to be able to be an isolationist. I wish that the United States could be us and us alone and to hell with everybody else. You don't matter, we're not gonna pay anybody. But we may not have enough of something, we have to get it from somewhere else. We may have too much of something. What are we gonna do with it? We're gonna want to sell it to somewhere else. Other places matter. So why I may want to be an isolationist is great in theory. It would be wonderful if we could ignore the rest of the world. I don't have to like reality. I deal in reality, though. What happens there sometimes affects us here. What happens here affects them over there at times. We're interconnected like it or not. This isn't the two hundreds. We're right where we don't have major ocean going ships, no such thing as an aeroplane. Life was simple, nobody lived very long. This isn't two hundred, this is two thousand and something. Reality. We may not like the reality of how the UN operates, but the reality is the reality in either you deal in the reality or you just surrender it to others. Dumb idea, bad idea, really stupid idea. And then you'll see a whole lot of how the UN can affect us in negative ways because you wanted to take your ball and go home and pretend none of it matters, pretend nobody else exists. I'm gonna take my ball and go home is not a valid adult real world response. Period. Period. Now, again, human flawed frail. If you've got a good logic reason-based argument why you think I'm wrong, present it. Just don't give me your feelings. Oh my god, the ocean is magenta. No, no. Water is clear, of course, right? You see through it, but as as a major body it appears blue. Don't come at me with I prefer it to be magenta. And if it were magenta, then this could be true too. Well, that ain't true. So your other delusional potential circumstance is idiotic. It's childish. I want adult thinking, logic, reason, common sense, not unicorn fart fantasy delusional. Well, if the ocean was magenta, it ain't. Shut up! The pen ain't blue, right? Comes the what was the Jim Carrey liar liar? Well what he had a blue pen saying it's red, or it was a red pen saying it's I forget which way it was. I don't remember the movie, I haven't seen it in years. You don't have to like reality, but guess what? You gotta deal in reality, or join the Democrat Party. They are the party of delusion and unicorn fart fantasy. There are a million genders, men can have babies, blah blah blah blah. Climate science is settled. Despite the climate gate emails, it shows they've fraudulently fudged the data. And you know, before it's news.com, I talk about how they fudged the crime stats. Why about that, right? Now they're trying to fudge the violence statistics. Did you see right now? They're running around at TPUSA. 70% of all violent events are created and caused by right wingers. Until you look at the data as Will Kane did earlier on his show. This who's the slavery party? The Democrats. Are they a right wing party? Or are they a left wing, big government, all powerful, like communists, fascists, and socialists, left wing party, they are the party of slavery, they are the party of racism, but yet somehow a neo-Nazi, which would be a leftist, a white supremacist, which again would be a demo KKK rat leftist, is somehow right wing violence for the purposes of their BS narrative. And all kinds of other events that they fudge to claim, oh, well, that was right-wing violence inspired, so they could come up with the phony number. 70% of the violence is created by right-wingers. They have no arguments, they lie, they fudge the data, no matter what it is, they fudge the data so they can lie about it. Their arguments are easily dismantled with two seconds of research, but yet they're turning up to turning point you say. They don't know, they don't want to know, they will do anything they can to avoid knowing. They just want their, they're not gonna look. The MS imbeciles quoted a bogus left wing think tank fudge data study. Bruh, parrot the talking point. It's without merit, it's completely baseless, it falls apart with two seconds of looking into it, but they're out there repeating it, of course, because they can't think, they don't think, they're delusional, their feelings, they want, they feel like it should be true. So darn it, the ocean is magenta. Right? Okay. Part two, I've rambled far enough. I've gotta link these together, throw a quick edit together and get it posted so I can get to bed and get to sleep. Plus, I do want to put this up at theforexnews.com. I'm gonna need to do that before I'm gonna be able to get to sleep. See y'all later. Like and subscribe to Christitutional Politics Podcast and pair episodes. We need your help. Thank you for having tuned in for Christitutional Politics Show. If you haven't already, please check out my primary internationally available book, perhaps. 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