CTP (S3EFebSpecial6) From Locker Room To Living Room Care

CTP (S3EFebSpecial6) From Locker Room To Living Room Care
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond   
We trace how elite sports medicine drives everyday care, from stem cells to plant-based topicals, and weigh the real costs of “playing through it.” We also confront concussion protocols, incentives, and the uneasy balance between safety and spectacle.
• origin story from Malaysia to Tampa and into sports care
• why pro athletes fund and validate new therapies
• insurance barriers and the slow path to coverage
• stem cell signaling, affordable plant-based topicals
• allergies, honey, and root-cause elimination methods
• realities inside the NFL: contracts, pressure, and risk
• concussion protocols, CTE, and equipment limits
• how to do right by athletes over a full career
• practical recovery principles for non‑pros
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Transcript

Host Intro And Guest Name Gag

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello, welcome to another episode of Institute Showers Podcast. I am your host, Joseph M. Werner. That's L-E-N-A-R-D at LeFrench. Now let's run without an O. Thank you for tuning in. As Brandon used to say on his show, let's get on with the show. This special segment intro is for February specials. I'll be running two a week rather than one special a week on Wednesdays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays in February to get caught up on some of the interviews. And as Graham Norton currently says, he used to say, let's get out of the show. And I use that normally, but he uses now and I'm gonna borrow from him again. Let's get some guests on. Joining me today is Tommy Ree. Although there's an H in there. T-O-M-M-Y-R-H-E-E.

Tommy’s Journey From Malaysia To Tampa

SPEAKER_01 1:11

So Rahee. Pronounce R. And he is a shorts doctor. He'll help you look good in your running shorts. Oh, nope, wait a minute. That's a sports doctor. One letter makes a difference, right? That's awesome. Hey, you know, things are too serious. We gotta keep a sense of humor. Yes? Yo, that's good.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

That's good. You made my you made my afternoon here. I love it. That's awesome. Because there's so much difference between uh removing it or adding it. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

Yep, yep. And of course, in post video versions, I will have your name at the bottom, as well as I'll ask you for your website at the end. We'll put that in the bottom too as a scroll. But we're not there yet. We're just getting started. So let's start with uh where were you born and raised? Where are you now? Significant places you may have been in between, how much time you spent in prison for what?

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Well, I guess you know, I was born in Malaysia, uh, city called Joholbar, right outside of uh Singapore.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

And uh not to be confused with Star Wars Jar Jar Binks. No, no, no, no. We're laughing, people, these are jokes.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

And then um, and then of course, my parents, uh, my dad was a doctor, a surgeon in the uh the outskirts of uh Malaysia, and then um he decided to come to United States. So a couple years after that, uh we came to United States. Uh we first landed in Chicago, and in Chicago, uh my dad, because he was a surgeon then, he had his transfer license over and went through some schools, and then lo and behold, we're in Chicago for a couple years, and then uh ended up in Tampa, Florida. Tampa, Florida was pretty much raised, and in Tampa, uh, you know, I was introduced to everything from fishing and outdoor life and the winter weather is off. Yeah, I thought and then um really sports. Sports got me involved with a lot of good events of like football, baseball, soccer. I loved it all. I loved anything that was outside and you're moving around, loved it, enjoyed that time. And so, you know, knowing that I'm gonna be in that world of sports, I just want to see where I can take that. And of course, I can't be a professional athlete, I'm not that tall. So then I see my dad's lifestyle.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

I see the No, you're not a basketball center.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

No.

Choosing Sports Medicine And Regenerative Care

SPEAKER_00 3:55

So then there I go. So then I'm thinking, like, well, I can be like my dad, but be in a sports world, and that's how sports, you know, sports medicine and then sports chiropractic came about. And then throughout that process, you know, I developed a keen into the ability to like listen to patients or athletes and figure out what their issues are and work my kind of like that, that therapy, and understanding about recovery, regeneration, and healing. And that's how I moved into this world of regenerative medicine. So it's kind of one of those tracks that you just kind of like fall into and then just developed on its own.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Well, and I think it's important. A lot of people think of it as somewhat frivolous, or you know, those whiny, overpaid athletes, ah, blah, blah, blah. But we learn a lot out of medicine through sports and sports injuries that relate over to us normal people who don't play sports, yes?

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, look at everything cutting edge that you are basically seeing, it's it's it's not the cutting edge of athletes. They're the ones that want the edge, right? They want the edge of place better, recover faster, and do everything that can you know enhance their ability to perform. So that includes therapy. That includes any machine, any uh stem cell issue, anything

How Pro Innovations Trickled To The Public

SPEAKER_00 5:16

that has that ability to get them back to normal. So, yeah, absolutely. Athletes are the first to penetrate that world, and it trickles down to people like you know, weekend warriors and just everyday people.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

Yeah, exactly. And uh I I was gonna say something about sports, but now I've forgotten what it was. But indeed, I mean, we all usually when we're younger, unfortunately, too many helicopter parents are keeping kids out of sports, and that can hurt their health because we they're not active. That can be a problem in and of itself, yes?

SPEAKER_00 5:54

Oh, absolutely. You know, I think the biggest learning uh tool that we had when I was growing up is your own mistakes. You have to go through your own mistakes, and then you have to solve your own issue. There's nothing worse than knowing that that no matter what happens, I'll figure it out. But now these days, I mean now these days, these kids right now, when they make a mistake, they're looking for the help. They're looking for the someone that gives them solutions, and then there's their helicopter mom giving them the help, and they think that, you know, as an adult, the government, though, somebody's gonna help them out. You've got to get down to the basics of learning the lessons of what really is applied to us when we were kids.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

Exactly. If yeah, you don't life isn't fair, as they say. There isn't always gonna be someone to help and bail you out like your parents do. Eventually, you're supposed to grow up, be an adult, and able to take care of yourself. But as you said, yeah, too many get this mindset, oh, Uncle Sam will be mommy and daddy. Uh so yeah, don't mean to go down that road a long way, but I'm glad you brought that up. And I remember what it was. Uh I've had health weeks on, and I've had various health people on for this, that, the other thing on and off before and after that. But I didn't have anyone

Helicopter Parenting And Resilience

SPEAKER_01 7:15

directly in sports medicine, which is why I was anxious to be able to talk to you and indeed relate as we already have. Uh, like so many things. Certain sectors of society may get something or see something or can afford something first. And without that, without them, it never then be can become mainstream and lower cost and funnel down to the rest of this. This, you know, to be political again, they eat the rich mentality. Well, if not for them affording some of this stuff, it never comes into being at all to then eventually become less expensive and funnel down to us. Reasonable statement.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Yeah, and maybe that's the thing is that you have to understand where you're at in the developmental or the discovery portion of it, right? So everybody, look, it's it's a business, right? In the medical side of it, in Western medicine, it's a business. They're trying to capitalize on their little invention. And yeah, it's understood, but the problem is the end user, right? They're the ones that get hurt, right? Because they can't afford it or they're missing out on this new drug or new technique that that that can help them, but again, it's not really like coupled with what the insurance. You have to think about what the insurance is going to, like, you know, to pay for. So if it's out of their scope, meaning that's too experimental, but we know it works, they won't pay for it until they find out at the very end because wow, you can make money on the insurance side and save money on the insurance side. So they said, Okay, win-win, let's do it. So it takes a time for that type of like evolution to get involved with that kind of like savings down to the last person. But the neat thing about like really discovering things and understanding where this technology is going with regenerative medicine, stem cell therapy. If you really understand the signaling, and then now you're trying to find out there's got to be something else that you can signal from, like you know, stem cell therapy, which is a very expensive procedure, right? Then you do the what I have is the topical, but then you start thinking about well, or there's gotta

Costs, Insurance, And Access To Care

SPEAKER_00 9:32

be some more information that I can get that can do the same thing as these human tissue type of like information or signals. Then you start thinking about okay, how can I do that? And then the discoveries of like plant-based. Plant-based is what's going to be the next wave. And the neat thing about plant-based, the cost is so much more in uh inexpensive, and it goes right to the consumer. No more middleman of the doctor, it goes right to the patient, so you can buy it online. Say this will do instead of masking the pain, it'll go to the source, heal the pain, so then it reduces the pain.

SPEAKER_01 10:06

Yeah, that another good example I thought of was like surgical advancements, uh, Tommy John surgery, uh, all kinds of surgeries that help athletes that these sports uh entertainment industries generate a lot of money. So there's a lot of money to be able for these people to afford them in the experimental stage. They become perfected and more mainstream, but without that phase, it's not likely to ever trickle down to everyone else. And I I'm I'm with you on like the we're returning to homeopathic a little bit more, recognizing more of

Stem Cells, Signals, And Plant-Based Topicals

SPEAKER_01 10:56

the natural stuff. Now, honey, I always talk, antibacterial and antiviral properties. Well, there aren't enough bees making enough honey for everyone to have a jar of honey a day, right? So, yeah, some other alternatives sometimes might be needed an antiviral drug and anti or antibiotics for antibacterial. But if you can manage to indeed afford it, honey on a daily basis is one of those homeopathic, antiviral, antibacterial maintenance things we could do.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

I think the big thing with like when you talk about honey, you know, like real natural honey, you know, my first my first thought is that when you think about like people that have allergies, you know, if you're in, if you've got an allergy, right? One of the biggest things, yeah, there you go. The one of the biggest things that combat that allergy reaction is honey, because honey has that that that ingredient. Like, for instance, if you're you know like you know, we got pollen season, right? The pollen is what honeys are made from, right? So, but here's the thing about honey. I don't know the actual, like, I'm not an expert when it comes to that kind of world,

Home Remedies, Honey, And Allergies

SPEAKER_00 12:16

but I just know that if you get a honey from your geographic area that you may have like some type of allergic reaction to, some type of pollen, the honey will combat that allergic reaction where you are now like not attacking it, it's not gonna be like one of those histamine reactions, and it calms things down, so now you're more more likely to not have that allergic or the sensitivity to that pollen because your body's built at antibodies.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

So it's kind of interesting that, or at least as bad a reaction, yes, it can help mitigate it. Yeah, I pointed at myself. I have all kinds of allergies to outdoor, I don't cut my own grass, I can't because I have allergies to weeds and things. And my if I try to cut my lawn, uh my sinuses will be a disaster for a week thereafter. And I have a few like uh issues with some foods, so yeah, those those things unfortunately are something we all have to be aware of.

SPEAKER_00 13:21

Yeah, I think the biggest thing is that you've got to figure out what is triggering these things, right? That's the big thing, right? We all try to figure things out because root causes as opposed to just treating symptoms all the time. Because here's the thing with sensitivity: when you're sensitive to something, it doesn't show up right away, it shows up days, maybe weeks later, and then it takes a long process to really figure out what is that kind of sensitive item, right? So that's why it takes time, and that's why people get confused, like they think I'm sick or I'm having this like this, these sinus issues, and I don't know why, just constant. It's a hard homework, but you have to go through the process of just doing that diligent movement of like eliminating one thing at a time and just seeing if that's the possibility, and then do another one and do another one. But it takes time, it takes maybe two, three,

Root Causes And Elimination Strategies

SPEAKER_00 14:10

four weeks for one ingredient, one product, one thing that may be a trigger.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Yeah, again, you're here really to talk sports medicine, so we're kind of way off topic. But immediately came to my mind is how is it so many darn people all of a sudden have a peanut allergy? Like, you know, what have we done with our diet that has screwed up our bodies over the last 20, 30 years that everybody's got a peanut allergy all of a sudden? But anyway, yeah, back to let's drop some names. Have you had any famous athletes that you could drop their name? Yeah, I know that person because I've worked with them. Well, I mean or do you have NDAs and you can't disclose?

SPEAKER_00 15:04

I mean, uh I mean I mean in the NFL world, I was uh the doctor at UCLA, so there's athletes during that time, and there's you know, I say 2000 and 2005 to 2008 of the UCLA, so um, we talk about all the sports, and then when you look at the Buccaneers, I was

Name-Drops: UCLA, Buccaneers, WWE

SPEAKER_00 15:21

with them uh as a their team doctor of 2015, 2018. And then um I was with WWE at 2014, and then I was with uh uh an athlete. I can mention his name. He was an Olympian, Walter Dix.

SPEAKER_01 15:37

He was a fantastic 100-200 runner, silver medal in the world championship, and worked on the Which is timely because we're recording today behind the scenes is uh Wednesday, February 11th, and the Olympics winner Olympics are on. So that's a timely reference.

SPEAKER_00 15:55

Yeah. So, I mean, as far as like names, I mean, I don't want to say too many names because it's like one of those things like he says, like, yeah, I gotta be careful. So, anyways, um I I I know my caliber of athletes, and then you know, whatever you think you think I know is probably what I know.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

So that's why I just say so. We kind of you already kind of said your your youth and uh the direction you had when you were young kind of laid out why. Do you think if you'd had a a different upbringing, sports medicine would have still been your thing? I don't know how to ask that really, and I don't know where I'm going with it, really.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

But well, I think you're you're absolutely right. I think my upbringing helped a lot, but I think because of my dad and being a surgeon and a doctor, and then there's relatives and uncles and aunts, and everybody's a surgeon or a doctor or something, you know. So it was I don't know if it's like encoded in my genetics disposition to be a provider, like like really like to help people. And it's like my enjoyment is is seeing someone get better, you know, whatever they're dealing with, get better. And if you're truthful with yourself and to that patient, and you know, with

Calling To Care And Athlete Outcomes

SPEAKER_00 17:15

knowledge and just what you think it is based on your like your your your how would you say like knowing the mechanism of everything that is the problem and understanding the the systemic around that problem and kind of coupling all together and getting a good solution, that's very promising for for my satisfaction. I think the biggest the biggest thing about being in the sports, uh being raised, not so much in sports, I was like a wild child, so that I had no other choice but be kicked out of the house and become like that physical person. But I know that it's it's meant to be. It's like something that it was it was like it was like you know, like you get a dog that loves to like please their their owner, right? It that's the same thing with me with helping people, it's just something that I enjoy. It's it's it's nothing better than having an athlete come to my office and say, I've got knee problem, and then it's concerning because they're a professional athlete, or there could be like collegiate athlete, but they want to perform. You get them back on the field and they perform 100% and they succeed, they do well, and then that reflects on your ability and treatment. So that's where I get my enjoyment. So it's it's it's a neat two-way street here.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

So yeah. I excuse me, pardon me. Uh no cough button here. I don't have a fancy studio, I'm doing this out of my living room. So but you mentioned the Buccaneers fairly recently. So the difference between attitudes then, you know, 20, 30,

Then Vs Now: Toughness And Player Safety

SPEAKER_01 18:57

especially 40 years ago, especially in the NFL, suck it up, buttercup, get back out there, right? Versus today we care. In part, we care more about the person, and in part it's a business decision, and because I got 20 million dollars invested in you. I need I can't have you on injured reserve forever. So we need to handle the little things as we can so it don't become a bigger, more serious thing. Uh the difference between you know 20 years ago as opposed to 40 years ago in sports medicine, you you've seen that.

SPEAKER_00 19:39

Yeah, man. I see that like I see both sides of that. Here's the funny thing. You're absolutely right. It's a it's a team, it's a professional business, and their business is to win games. And it it you look at these athletes and they're getting paid well, but they're a number, they're just a number. They're they don't have a human aspect of it. If they don't perform and they're not on the field, well, it's the next person up. And the worst thing about it, these NFL players, they don't have guaranteed contracts. Most of their contracts is based on performance, so it's like I'm forced to go on the field because I won't get that special bonus, that big money that they want. Now, it it's a tricky, it's a tricky slope because you want to have the athlete out there, but you see the athlete have an injury that might be a season or a career-ending injury, but you need him on a field. It could be one of those games that it's a you know win or lose situation to go to playoffs. Well, what do you tell the athlete? You're gonna tell him the truth, or you're gonna tell him a little white lie, you know, like, oh no, you're okay, it's fine. And then he takes a hit and there goes his knee, and there goes his career. So it's a it's a it's it's what you see in the past about you know, like suck it up buttercup, and now it still applies, but it's it's it's kind of like dressed up in a different way. It's dressed up like you know, in incentives, and you you put it to the app that goes, Well, you can be out, but you're you know, the agent or someone's gonna address it to him, goes, You might not get that money that you really want. Okay, I'm

Incentives, Contracts, And Hard Choices

SPEAKER_00 21:05

gonna go out there, and then all of a sudden, yeah, they go in harm's way. So it's it's a fine line. It's an ugly business, but it's it's for just pure enjoyment as far as a fan base. They don't see the dirty side of this whole world.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Yeah, and every injury is is an equal, not all things are equal. A stub toe is not the same as a sprained ankle, it's the same as a fractured fibula or tibula or whatever, right? Some injury, yeah, yo, tape it up, get back out there. It's it's acceptable to do that. But uh, I think the biggest thing most will see now in the differences is the uh random off field official calling down hockey football, especially the concussion protocol. Wait a minute, no. That guy to the tent comes a call from the stand that didn't exist ten years ago. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

You know, I I can there's a lot there's a lot of sad st outcomes that come out of these athletes that retire. You can you can see them, you know, you can see them going through their problems. Like you got Brett Farbett's going through something right now. And then you see the other athletes that that sadly to say, but you know, they committed suicide because of their their fight against this um this sort of CTE stuff. So it it it has its concern, but then the ultimate thing is that it becomes like what's more important at the time? Is it money or worrying about the future of the CT? So it's it's a it's a catch-22. I I it's it's sad to say. I mean, you it's very complicating, you know. Everybody's concerned about the human being as far as the athlete. But when you ask somebody that really cares about something, it's about the team, it's about winning the Super Bowl, it's about going into the championship world. You sacrifice for the team, you go. Nobody sees what happens when the curtains are closed and then they're in their retirement. They don't

Concussion Protocols And CTE Realities

SPEAKER_00 23:12

want to see that stuff, they just want to remember them and their highlights and seeing, oh, I remember that guy. They don't want to see things of what what I see when they retire. So there is that component of it. It's tough. But here's the thing: they're trying to address it. Are they doing it correctly? I don't know. They're doing the only time will tell, yes. You know, it's it's just it's just unique in its world. It's just I I it's it's hard for me to comment on that because it's such a new type of like foresight into the future of this CTE and making sure that they can, you know, clear the protocol before they return back on the field. It's a lot of variables there. So I I I see the concern, and you don't want to have these retired guys that are all of a sudden going through that little, you know, that that CTE syndrome and then showing up on games, and it reminds the existing players that could be me in a couple years, you know, and then that's why it's like they try to hide these guys and behind the curtain so they don't see active players, and it reminds the active players, hey, you might be this guy if you don't watch. So it's an awful, it's it's an awful confusion.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

And equipment improvements come along too, but still, I mean, they are more shock-resistant helmets now, but still there's the head on the one hand seems pretty darn resilient, but on the on the one hand, but on the other hand, the brain is somewhat fragile. So again, it's that uh balance issue. What we're trying to do the best to protect you, but there's no such thing as putting a bubble around you. This is football.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

No, and you know here's the thing, okay. So you hear a lot of people complaining about the the the rules of the NFL are changing for the safety, for the safety. When you start changing that, it you change the dynamic of the game. Now you really are like putting themselves into a all offense and then only a defense game because then you can't touch the quarterback.

SPEAKER_01 25:17

Like the kickoff rules change.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Yeah, so you're changing, you're changing the feel of the NFL. You know, it's tough because it's an entertainment, right? NFL's about, and remember back in the days of the 90s and even 2000s and shit right there, it was all about the highlights of hits. There were like if you if you saw like the NFL, like Monday night, it was all about like people just getting demolished.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

Same with hockey. What are people? Oh, we gotta take fighting out of

Entertainment Vs Safety And Rule Changes

SPEAKER_01 25:43

the game, but what sells uh the old VHS tapes? Fights. A collection of the fights, right?

SPEAKER_00 25:51

It's all about being physical. Look, I mean, look at another popular sport. UFC, violent sport. That's what sells, you know, getting violent. And then the NFL, I I I know what they're trying to do. They're trying to tailor to everybody, but they may like start losing the edge of what really the NFL's theme. It's about winning, but the violence to have that win occur. So that's a tough thing, you know. If you just think about all the way back in the Roman days with the gladiator sports, I mean that that was not just hurting, they were dying out there, and that was part of the sport, you know, last one standing. So we're definitely evolving. Well, you gotta be you gotta be understanding that this is entertainment.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

I mean, I can appreciate the flag football league for what it is, but if you turn the NFL into the flag football league, I'm out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

I mean, look, look, right now, if you wa it's here's a perfect example the uh the Pro Bowl, right? The Pro Bowl is a flag football event, right? And you watch that and you're like, okay, that's neat, but then you just turn on to any football, even high school, because that's more entertaining. Now you're looking at something that's you know, because everybody wants to be on the edge, you know. Nobody wants the outcome of these athletes, but you still want that violence. It's just part of our nature to see it. So it's a very difficult subject to talk about and how to solve it. I'm on the side with the athlete. The fans, I understand, they want to see that kind of like that aggressive game-winning hit or touchdown, and you know what it takes to become that person with all the violence. So I understand the fans' point of view. But on this side, as a doctor, you you're looking out for the health of the athlete, not in the present, but for the future. So there's again two sides of the coin. So I totally understand both sides.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

Yeah, and I re- and there's a difference, not every injury occurs. This they a che someone injured by a cheap shot, that's a whole other thing, as opposed to someone accidentally somehow got hurt, and especially like uh all these antics with the uh you know, they're trying to take celebrations out or they're allowing more of them in. But

Violence, Spectacle, And Fan Appetite

SPEAKER_01 28:00

if someone's doing a black backflip and they wind up hurting themselves, well, it's like, well, you brought that on yourself as opposed to an ink, because I mean, I remember the Seisman leg shatter live on TV. Uh, so yeah, we we want to reduce chances of injury, but there will always be chance of injury.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

But do you know that hit Joel Thizman, of course, Lawrence Taylor gave them the hit, right? They replayed that so many times. That was part of the NFL's commercial at one time. It was something to brag about.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

So NBC Sports, remember, Agony of Defeat. I was saying to someone just the other day, Lindsay Vaughn will be now the new ABC, Agony of Defeat, right? But yeah, exactly. It's these uh these traumatic scenes that garner the attention.

SPEAKER_00 29:04

You know, when I so when I was with the Bucks, and you know, you travel to you know, either a foreign team, right? You're at the either the Philadelphia World or the San Francisco or somewhere, it's like a role, it's like a Roman Coliseum. It feels like that. You feel the heartbeat of the fans underneath the the the bleachers and stuff like that. You feel that throbbing. It it really gets you going. Yeah, I mean, it if you really want to know what it feels like, just watch Gladiator. That that scene of them approaching, you know, they're underneath and they're about to come out and they're approaching the gate and they're waiting at the gate, same feeling, same nervousness, same anxiety, and then the minute that they release, it just feels like that. The crowd roars, people run out there, and then all mayhem starts then. So it's it's just like that. And people love that violence, and they of course they don't, you know, they don't want it to happen to an individual, but in general, you know, look, human beings,

Adrenaline, Injury, And The Coliseum Feel

SPEAKER_00 30:05

they thrive on that stuff, you know. Why do you slow down to see a car accident? Why do you same thing? It's just for humans, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:12

And that's the same thing as you were saying, the gliding, the anxiousness of when you get out, and that's the other thing. Injuries are somewhat disguised by the adrenaline flowing at times. You don't realize an injury is as bad, you're not feeling it as bad because of all that adrenaline pumping.

SPEAKER_00 30:32

Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's such a unique world to be in to see the inner workings of that type of company, the NFL. And so the big thing that I would like to portray for my side is when it comes to athletes, you want the best for them. And the best for them is understanding that you know they're athletes, they want to go out there and perform, they want to make an earning, and they want the best, longest contracts and career. And if that has to be sat down for a little bit, the team has to work with them, the team has to understand that it's tough because you know, we live season by season, right? I mean, that's all it is. So they don't care about next year, they want to do this year because look at a lot of facts here. So you see these head coaches getting fired right away. You see, like just you know, general managers, everybody. I mean, it's just basically.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

There is no team after so many failing seasons. The fans dry up, there's no money coming in, changes will wholesale be made, or the team gets sold off and sent somewhere else. So, yeah, there's that pressure for the now. It's gotta be now. Everything about the now.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Yeah. So then as a provider, you try to detract from that, but the problem is that it's just the whole structure of that NFL world. It's just meant to be that way. And you see it and you identify that. And your job is just do your best you can. Just do your best by helping out that athlete

Balancing Careers, Seasons, And Health

SPEAKER_00 32:05

and understanding what his wants and needs are.

SPEAKER_01 32:08

I uh before we go, I want to say for the benefit of the 25 plus audio channels and the transcript, I see over your right shoulder, the left part of the screen, the regen, the R-H-E-E-G in a special font E-N. I I like that play on the word there with your name regen. Is that indeed time has flown, so we're gonna wrap it up. Is that indeed the website, regen.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

Yes, yes, R H R-H-E-E-G-E-N dot com. And you can learn everything about topical stem cell. And then if you have a question, just go ahead and hit the info button and shoot me a question.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Sounds good. Thank you, Tommy Re R-H-E-E. And again, that's R-H-E-E-G-E-N.com. It'll be on the bottom scroll for the video, and we set it for the 25 plus audio and spelled it out for anyone reading on the transcript now. Thanks for stopping by. It was an exciting discussion. All right, man. This is a good one right here. I liked it. Like and subscribe to Christitutionalist Politics Podcast and share episodes. We need your help. Thank you for having tuned into another Christitutionalist podcast show. I really appreciate that you stop by. Again, please like, share, subscribe. We need you to help spread the constitutionalist movement. Thank you again. Take care. God bless. Love you all.