CTP (S3EAprSpecial2) Escaping The Why Me Trap

CTP (S3EAprSpecial2) Escaping The Why Me Trap
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond   
We talk with Marat Welker about the Why Me mindset and how it quietly turns hard moments into a story of powerlessness. We challenge the “happily ever after” myth, unpack how identity and social media shape our thinking, and share a simple language shift that helps us act instead of react. 
• defining the Why Me mindset versus victimhood 
• how imposter syndrome and survival instincts feed self-focused thinking 
• identity as a lens that shapes decisions and beliefs 
• faith and philosophy as tools for resilience in a fallen world 
• social media dopamine loops and amplified grievance 
• Cinderella as a model for “happier ever after” habits 
• dropping the words “to me” to regain agency 
• gratitude and challenges as a path to growth 
• empty nester identity loss and finding a new mission 
• Marat’s coaching program built on Bible, science, and habits 
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Welcome And Why Me Framing

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Hello, welcome to another episode of First Two Shorts Podcast. I am your host, Joseph Warner, that's L dear Francis. Now let's wonder without the go. Thank you for tuning in as Cramps on his show. Let's get on with the show. Joining me today is Marit Welker. Like Merritt, but with an A in there. And of course, in post, I will put the scroll at the bottom. Uh, she is joining me today to talk about the Why Me Mindset, which is in January, season one, episode, I wrote it down, 134. I had on Richard Lynch again, he did a cover of Chris Kristoffeson's song Why Me Lord, which was like, Why me, Lord? Why am I getting these blessings? I don't think I deserve. You mean it? We're here to talk about more the other way. The ug, why me, Lord? Why does this bad sh stuff keep happening, right? Right. So the tone and inflection matters.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Absolutely. I'll tell you, it's something that I'm a professional at. I spent 20 or 30 years stuck in why me mentality, and it only brought misery.

Why Me Mindset And Imposter Stats

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Yeah, I I was on X getting ready for the show, and I happened to mention it on X, and I tagged Grok on it. So Grok provided some statistics. Uh blah blah blah. The Wime Mindset episode. Here's a few verified stats. A 2019 systematic review found imposter syndrome, which is usually involved, but not always, prevalence ranges 9 to 82 percent, often higher in ethnic minorities and professionals. Uh PMC link, I don't know who that is, but also being quoted as the National Library of Medicine, 2025 meta-analysis, 62% in health providers, Springer.com. So a lot of people deal with this apparently.

SPEAKER_00 2:57

I think nearly everyone on the earth does. It's our natural uh survival instinct. It's how we process things when things don't go our way. And when you can learn to this is not something you naturally discover on your own at all. It is a taught uh philosophy. But once you learn this and begin to live this, it's it's a game changer.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

I spent so many years feeling sorry for myself for all of the things that had gone wrong in my life and all of the things that were unfair to me. Abuses, bullying, perceived problems. They weren't even real problems, but in my mind they were. And all of them were against me. And I'll tell you, it's a terrible way to live.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

Well, I think it's part of human condition, human nature, human psychology. And it once you get kind of caught up in it, it snowballs itself. And I think it's a little different. It can be the same as victimhood mentality, but that's where you're constantly in the refusal to admit anything, could even remotely be your own doing or not, versus why me lord is almost uh just it's accidentally, but why does it keep happening to me? That to me is a little different than the victimhood mentality. Right.

Identity, Faith, And Worldview

SPEAKER_00 4:37

I'm actually not familiar with the why me lord song. Somehow I missed that one. And um and I didn't come in thinking in terms of why me Lord, I came in thinking of um just the natural propensity to think of ourselves first and wonder why these things are happening, and yes, in prayer, but also in uh all of our mindset. And I think that that's something that um is something that is taught to us by society and social media, and it becomes part of our identity as well. Uh, I mean, it you I'm guessing from your shirt that you're probably leaning towards conservative politically.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Yeah, but biblical-based constitutionalist, trademark, created Christian, Christian biblical community versus worldly communism. There is a big difference. I root things in biblical reality and truth and the whole Bible in full context. So, yes, I am a person of the right based on my Christian faith and Jesus' teaching versus Marxist teaching.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Right. Now, let me ask you this how much of that filters into your identity?

SPEAKER_01 6:03

Oh, I would certainly say a lot of that does, absolutely. And I think faith, uh some would say faith is a crutch, but I think having the faith.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

Faith is the ones without faith.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

Yeah. I think faith helps one to understand that bad things sometimes happen to good people. This is a fallen world. It's not the world isn't out to get you, it's just the way it is. God has given all free will, and some choose evil to do to others as part of their. So it's not necessarily you, you are not necessarily a target, and faith can help you get out of that hole and overcome it. I would imagine it's harder without faith. Well, definitely. But uh yes, but depends on the person.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

I think philosophy can help get there. But um, for me, having my faith and being based on faith and centering my life on my faith in Jesus Christ, or trying to, I feel like that gives me the strength I need to make it actually happen. Uh but here's here's where I'm going with this. The um identity that you have as a Christitutionalist and a more conservative and faith-based person is is based on that. Now, what if a Democrat came along and they were agnostic? They aren't sure about the whole religion thing. Okay, where would their identity lie? It wouldn't be the same as yours. But our identity is something that is the driving force but behind what we do, it is so crucial, it is foundational for how we live our lives. I've found that people who are um more soft in the definition of their identity are sometimes more malleable and ready to move forward in new directions. But those who are hard and firm set in their I am a which could be left or right. It could be either no, I don't I don't mean even political. How about I'm LGBT or my daughter is LGBT, or my um I don't know, just any kind of identity. I'm white, okay, I'm of German and English ancestry, about 90% English, I think. But what happens is, um, I mean um British, but what happens is that if I am a genealogist and if that's how I see myself, then the decisions I make are framed through that perspective, and social media only makes this stronger. Oh my goodness, does it make it stronger?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Makes it worse, yeah.

Social Media And Identity Bias

SPEAKER_00 9:10

Absolutely. So the more that we are uh diving deep into social media, diving deep into our identity, the stronger this bias becomes. Because that identity is going to shape how we see the world, it's gonna shape who we are, it's gonna shape our decisions, it will shape our uh uh understanding of the world around us. It's like putting on a pair of glasses. Sorry, they're not on my head after all, um, uh a reach for them. Uh, like putting on your glasses and discovering they're very dirty. Well, if if they're very dirty, it comes on very gradually and very gradually, and you may not notice that they're dirty until you take them off and put them back on again clean, or put them back on again and notice how dirty they are. I think the same thing happens for the world that we live in where we are going to be finding ourselves um uh biased, but that doesn't mean badly biased, it just means uh slightly distorted. Each of us has a different prescription through our glasses of how we see the world, and uh huge portion of that lands on our identity. Now, how does this tie back into victim mindset and the why me? Well, I think that Disney might be the root of all evil. No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding there. But let it go, let it go. No, I'm I'm kidding. Um, I have wonderful memories of going to Disney World and watching Disney movies with my children. But what I didn't realize I was teaching them growing up on the beautiful shows that I watched as a child with my parents, and we built great memories around, was that if you are going to have uh your difficult time, then afterwards, Prince Charmage is going to come along, sweep you off your feet to the castle, and you will live happily ever after. Well, only Cinderella got that right. If you are familiar with the Cinderella version of uh a Disney version of Cinderella, in it you'll find that Cinderella had some tough circumstances. She lost her mother, then she lost her father, and then she was stuck with an evil stepmother who then enslaved her and uh she became free labor. She wasn't treated respectfully, and she wasn't uh protected physically. She was up in the cold, drafty attic. Um, this takes place in France, uh, conceptually, and so it's not going to be warm in the winter in that attic. But here's the thing about Cinderella is different from all the others. Cinderella sang while she worked. Cinderella spoke respectfully to her mother-in-law. Cinderella was able to deal with the stepsisters and give them their space. Cinderella took care of the animals. Cinderella complained now and then, but she kept going in her circumstances. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

We're all entitled to whine and moan once in a while, yes.

Cinderella And Happier Ever After

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Once in a while, but don't get stuck there, and if that happens, it's hard to evict. I can tell you that from past experience. But by having these habits in place, Cinderella made do with what she had. She had no one. No one. So she played with mice. But that being said, she made the best of her circumstances. Now, bad things happened. And uh she was able to come through and marry the prince. Would the stepsisters have been happy if they had married the prince?

SPEAKER_01 14:24

Probably not, because they were miserable SOBs to begin with. And yeah, that's your point. You're pointing out a very important part of the whole overall moral of the story. And it goes back to I speak to Michael Jackson's Man in the Mirror song all the time, right? You've got to start with you. Someone else can't make you happy if you're not happy at all with yourself.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Right. Well, here's another thing to uh keep in mind on this concept is that with um Cinderella's circumstance, when she married the king, I mean, when she married the prince, she had very meddling in-laws. I mean, her father-in-law, oh, Pisa work, right? She had jealous courtiers, unhappy constituents, and children. Life wasn't easier, it was different. Now that's where we go wrong. She lived happily ever after because she knew how to live happy, not because of the prince and not because of the circumstances. What we forget help is hell, but correct all these help.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Yeah.

Remove “To Me” To Act

SPEAKER_00 15:48

But we're not complete unless we're complete as individuals, and that's not our spouse's job. There's the cure for most divorces, not most, many divorces. We are our spouse is not responsible for our happiness. We are. So that's something that um uh when um we talk about this victim mentality, what's so important to understand is that you can take out the words to me from your entire vocabulary and live a happier life just doing that. Here's how oh, this horrible thing happened to me this morning. I was da da da da. And then I can say, Oh, this horrible thing happened this morning, da da da. And what's the difference? The difference is how you process it afterwards because if it happened to you, then you are the victim, and if it happened to you, then something's out to get you and you're the victim. But it and and that removes your power to act, that removes your ability to be forward, it gives you an excuse to not bother to act. Exactly, exactly. And if that's built into our identity, and if that's built into social media, and you know what we grew up on is the happily ever after mentality, well, happily ever after doesn't exist, happier ever after does, and that is what I teach. That is where my efforts lie at this time because um so many people are suffering needlessly, and by removing those two words to me, suddenly you have women who are not only able to make choices. I'm sorry, I work with women, so I said that women, you have um people who are able to make their choices for themselves, they don't react to anything. There is no reading, it's just acting. Okay, so something terrible happened to me this morning, I can say, and then I say, and this is how I acted in response, or uh this is how I chose to act. What that does is it shifts us from victim mentality and it takes away our excuse and it gives us power and authority to go ahead and live our lives. That autonomy is incredible. What we do with that autonomy, that is where I come in. That is what I coach.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

My last couple of books, my last one, Complicated, just came out in January of 2026, deals in that to a degree. Also, we don't have a choice how people act towards us, but we do have a choice in how we respond back. Exactly what you're saying. And also, you said it perfectly happier, happier ever after. There's no such thing as happily ever after because we're living in a fallen world. Happily ever after uh assumes there is perfection that can be achieved on this planet, and that's a fool's errand. There is no such thing as perfect here. We want to succeed as best we can to the next life where wonderful can and does exist, right?

SPEAKER_00 19:48

Well, one thing I you know, Jesus commanded us to be perfect, but I don't think he means to be. I mean, the translations vary on the meaning and the power of that. Um, it can also mean finished, and the commandments he has just given us prior to that are pretty intense ones, but it also reminds us that we can't be perfect on our own, you know. You see all those signs that say you're good enough, you're um you are enough. Well, we're not. We live in a fallen world, none of us is enough. It is only through Jesus Christ that any of us can even breathe. It is only through God that we've been created, and we can be perfect in Jesus Christ. We can be perfect through him, and so for me, we live in a fallen world.

SPEAKER_01 20:39

We are all human, frail, flawed, imperfect. We will keep falling down. But the point being, we need to strive for better. Strive. Exactly. We're not gonna achieve perfect, but want to try to be perfect. I try I not to I hate to bring politics in, but Melania's be best thing. Uh that to me is a wonderful thing. Be the best you you can be. And again, it goes back to Michael Jackson, Man in the Mirror, or Rick Springfield's prayer. I send a prayer to heaven for the chance to be a better man than the man I see. You have to want to strive for better, not the why me excuse to not bother.

Trauma Language And “Toxic” Culture

SPEAKER_00 21:36

And that right there, that's where it comes back to identity. Because as we are looking at the impact of social media, of um influencers, of uh where we are spending our time and our energy, it's addicting. And it gives you those dopamine hits. So it's a lot of fun. Don't ask how I know, but it's addicting. But I'll tell you something. It's it's powerful if you use it for good, and it's powerful if you don't, and it will use you, and you can get lost, and it will take your your doubt, your feelings of victimhood, and expand them and expound on them until you deserve everything. And one of the biggest trends lately on social media has been using trauma language and severe trauma language to describe normal situations. You hear about toxic people and removing yourself from toxic people in your life. Well, what is a toxic person? I would say somebody who has sexually abused you, maybe, somebody who has beaten you physically, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

But what about an imperfect parent who's trying? Yeah, mental abuse. Yeah, helicopter parents may be good intention, but in a way that's overboard, also. That is uh can Be a problem, also. So you're right. It's right. There needs to be a bit of a balance and an understanding of what's going on. But a lot of it, again, it all goes back to me to us being able to self-reflect or not. What role are we playing in these bad things that may happen to us? And again, bad things happen to good people all the time. May or not be partly your fault, and it not because you're cursed. It's just the way the world is. But do we want to and all my life and living series books are that at least striving to want to be better? You have to want to try to be better.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Right, right. Okay, so you keep coming back to the um, I just want to build off it, but I can't remember the word. Oh, I love being 60. Um yeah, I turned 63 this year, so I know what you're doing.

Concussions, Therapy, And Brain Science

SPEAKER_01 24:17

Yeah, I have a train. I have a train of thought, but I'm at the shipyard waiting on a plane, right? Yeah, it don't work.

Gratitude And Challenges As Blessings

SPEAKER_00 24:27

That is that's beautiful. I had 10 concussions in three years. Oh. That don't help. That you know, that's when you you have a a word that you just can't find, it's on the tip of your tongue, but it you just can't get it. But later it comes back to you. Not this time. What would happen is things would go and I couldn't find them again, ever. The end. I knew they weren't coming back, but that was okay. I just had to learn to live that way. And uh it was called uh uh traumatic brain injury at one point. Um, and I had to go through three months of of uh mild traumatic brain injury. I had to go through three months of therapy, which helped substantially. But um the habits have continued, and I did a deep dive study into neurology and psychology. Oh my goodness, became obsessed with it for years, and it was so, so helpful. And I wish all Christians, no, I wish everyone, but especially Christians, would look into this because there's so much truth out there and available, so much wisdom, and it can help guide and uh push your life into the direction that will be help you to be the best Christian you can be, and the best person and the happiest person you can be. Oh I remembered what it was. Okay, the thing that has me concerned is when people say a bad thing happened to me, right? What about when bad things are happening to good people and we complain? We were commanded to be thankful in all things, right? Um and I think that that is one of the other key components to happiness because when we recognize that the challenges that are coming our way can be our biggest blessings, that's when we can begin to truly grow and step into ourselves. God teaches us through challenges, God communicates with us through challenges. We give him a great big long shopping list, and you know what he gives us? Challenges. We don't want challenges, but what does he say? He says that he will chastise those that he loves. So some of us are loved more than others, I believe that. Not that we're loved more, but that we are chastised more. Um, and uh yet we all have our struggles and probably the same degree for each individual if they are willing to embrace them. They can avoid, they can seek their pleasure and their short-term happiness, but to really become their best selves, they need to take it to the next level, and that means um be willing to commit and to go all in and to embrace those challenges and ask every single time, God, what do you want me to learn from this?

Community Identity Versus Victim Identity

SPEAKER_01 27:48

You said a lot of things, and I started making notes. Iron sharpens iron. If you had nothing bad, the bad things a lot of times, like bullying. I had Bullseye the Clown on my show a few years ago. Yeah, he's a result, he became Bullseye the Clown as a result of bullying and deals with bullying and the lessons of bullying. Well, you know what? If he hadn't been bullied, he wouldn't be the person he is today. Right. And in fact, in my the Book of Kennedy Project Carpe Diem book, I talk about Natasha being a bully to deflect from herself and her shortcomings growing up. Well, Kennedy becomes a better person because of it, because you don't want to be like that bad example. So sometimes the bad things help mold us into being better people, yes? And it brings to mind the Asia song, Days Like These, or like Longfellow, I go into in my books. Every life, a little rain, literal and figurative, must fall. It helps shape your character. Days L's by Asia is about uh days like these, I feel like I could change the world. And and anyway, I love the rain, right? Let it rain. It's actually making me stronger. Right?

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Again, not choose my greatest blessings, all of my greatest blessings have come because of trials.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

It again goes back to choosing how we act back to that which is presented to us. Do we shrivel and play the victim card? The oh, woe is me, why me, the excuse to not attempt to make things better.

SPEAKER_00 30:45

Well, and and here's the thing you can be a real victim, okay? If something terrible happened to me this morning and I say something terrible happened this morning, it still happened. If I remove to me, that doesn't mean it didn't happen to me. All right. I let's let's pretend I've been assaulted. Right. Well, it means I was still assaulted. It's how I'm interpreting that action. And and here's the thing is there are uh populations, subpopulations, uh social groups, etc., who have more difficulty with this because that's how they have been raised from the time they were babies. It's true. Do they have problems? Yes. Are they fair? No. Does that mean life isn't fair?

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Yes.

Empty Nesters And New Purpose

SPEAKER_00 31:35

No, no, no. I mean, uh what I mean is they've been in really unfair circumstances, okay? That not even remotely close. Um, and and I I recognize and acknowledge that, but they can still break out of it if they lose their the portion of the identity that had the why me. They still belong in that group, they still are part of that experience, they still are very much there, but they can find power and strength in capturing their own personal identity, not as I am from this background or that, but in I am a daughter of God, who is in this background and that, instead of just keeping your identity, I am a Christian, dah dah, dah. It's I am a daughter of God. If you put that first, and that's truly in your heart, boom, that's gonna open so many, just it's gonna empower you on so many levels. What I do for my work is I teach Christian women who I have teen children up through, you know, 70 or whatever, who are going through that stage called becoming an empty nester, who are about to go through it, who have gone through it and haven't fully recovered. And people think, Well, what now? And you you've lost your identity. Who am I now? I was a mom. I don't care if you're CEO of a Fortune 500 company, you are still a mom first because that's where your heart is. That's why you do all the other stuff. And so when your children suddenly not only leave home but don't want to return calls or don't want you calling them every day. I mean, I I taught you to to go to the bathroom. I I fed you, I this, I, that, I, the other, all of this your entire life. And now suddenly, I want to hear like what you had for breakfast.

SPEAKER_01 33:41

You might not be as dependent on me anymore, but I still kind of am dependent on you. That's right, because that's where my joy comes from. Yeah, and back to your dark. Oh, okay. My your to me.

SPEAKER_00 33:57

No, I'm just turning a light on.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Okay. Go ahead. Your to me part. Again, back to the victimhood. The perpetual victimhood part is where the problem is. Just because it happened to me doesn't mean it might not have happened to someone else. The trap is that gee, it only ever seems to happen to me. That's where the big trap is, I think. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

I'm not sure. I I think that um I think it just to some degree it comes down to we are human beings and we are selfish creatures by nature in order to survive. The end. Okay. If if there's a grizzly running us down, you know what? I'm gonna run faster than you. Do you know why I know that? I don't. But you know, that's that's kind of um our desire is to be safe, to protect ourselves, etc. And so we think about ourselves first. Now, that's not something that Jesus wants us to do, and that is a way to living really unhappy, but it is what we do naturally, our biology is programmed this way. Our biology has to be programmed this way to for the survival of species, yes, however, that being said, it's also um the root of unhappiness, and so it's finding our spirit overcoming our biology, uh, our mental plan, uh, you know, psychology, and being able to uh remove the two me. It still happened, it's still a problem. It is, I'm not saying, and but again, they are part of my identity.

SPEAKER_01 35:51

It wasn't only you, these things are happening to. It's not only you, and that's the problem. Only the only me, the only me, the only me. That's selfishness.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

I don't agree with in that part because here's the thing: there can be, as I said, whole populations who who've experienced bad things together, and that helps unite them. Um, and their community may still be focusing on that. Now, if that's the case, guess what? That doesn't diminish what really did happen to them, nor does it diminish that it happened to the whole population of them and to them as individuals. That's still true. What does it do? It says, okay, well, what am I going to focus on then? And I think it's more about the focus than the individual versus community.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

I think I think you kind of proved my point. It happened to a bunch of people. If you're focusing on the only you, you're losing sight of that broader picture. And the psychology thing is human nature. Again, God gave us free will, and our human nature and that psychology evolved from that free will.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

I guess what I'm saying, let's let's say that you are a survivor of the Nazis. Okay, what did you go through? You were in a prison camp and you survived. Now, you're in a club of some very uh a very small club. That makes you a survivor. You have bought been through trauma that's unheard of, untold trauma, and you have uh a group of small people. That doesn't make it any more or less about you to be in a community. I don't think that has anything to do with it, and I don't think it's about who you focus on.

SPEAKER_01 37:43

No, I'm saying that I think that's the trap. I think I really do. We have a difference of opinion here.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

Here's what I'm saying. I don't think it's that, I think it's the identity. Because if your identity is I am a victim of the Nazis, and that is your identity, yeah, but you weren't the only one. And the world keeps teaching you that, then you can grow weaker and weaker as a community, as individuals, and as a community in that we are victims, we deserve XYZ. Now I'm not saying that happened or should happen. That's just my example.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

I think we are closer than we are apart in this.

unknown 38:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

But I I don't, I don't what I'm trying to lay out is that there are communities that are making it worse because they are as a community making it about me, making it uh making them victims, if that makes sense. That's what I'm trying to focus on, is that there are communities that make it worse because they teach you to be a victim and they support you in that, and then as a community, they are a victim.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

That's a collective mindset, and that's a whole other discussion, right?

SPEAKER_00 38:59

But what I'm saying is when we when we base our identity on that collective mindset, then we you know we it it pulls us down and it's a very heavy force. Yeah. Um, so that's why what I want to say is be careful how you see yourself, analyze how you see yourself, take it to see that mirror thing again.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

You need to be able to look in the mirror and judge yourself. Remove the log from thine own eye. We are to judge biblically, including ourselves. We must self-reflect. And boy, time has flown. We could talk for three days on all this. So let's wrap it up. Do you have oh yeah, closing thoughts? Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what it is I do, and that is I work with these women to help them become their best selves. I'm a teacher, I'm a coach, I'm a trainer, I'm also a speaker. But I work with these women in order to help them um become empowered Christian women. That's my whole program is the empowered Christian woman, where we it's all based on science and habit and the Bible. And it's a beautiful program to help them to learn that strength I speak about, that ability to be disconnected from the world, um, and the skills for living happily ever after, happier ever after, and then walking them through finding their new purpose and and guiding them towards uh their next mission in life because life is just beginning.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:45

I think a lot of women get stuck at that stage, and I work with all women. Um, but my my uh emphasis right now is just on helping those empty nesters to really find what it is that they're supposed to that God's calling them to be now.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Well, wrapping things up, again, I think we are closer together than we are apart here. And again, right, not to plug my book again, but I am. Life is complicated. This is all complicated stuff. It's not simple, it's not easy. There aren't easy answers here normally, but we have to self-reflect. And like the plane, it loses cabin pressure, the masks come down. You are to put on your own mask first. You have to help yourself before you're able to help others, or you're one of the ones grasping for breath on the floor, unable to help yourself or anyone else. Do you have a website for folks to find you?

SPEAKER_00 41:55

Yes. My website is maratwelker.com, and on there I have a three-day challenge uh brochure that's free for people to download and give it a try. Um, I think that there's a lot of women out there who can use this and and it can really make a difference in their lives. Men as well could, but but it's you know, everything's pink.

SPEAKER_01 42:16

So hey, I used to wear pink ties. I had a salmon coward shirt. Real men have no problem with pink. Agreed. Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 42:28

No, I want to help women get happier, and there's a a three days happier challenge there. If they want to come check out martwelker.com.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Great, thank you, Mark. It's like uh, right. I'm glad I got it wrong, actually. It's like Merritt, but with an A in there. Mart Welker, thank you for coming on. Uh, it was a great discussion. Again, like with a lot of my guests, we could talk for three days, but then it would be too long, nobody will watch it. So take care bless you. Take care, God bless, love you. Have a good one. Thank you, you too. Bye-bye. Like and subscribe to Christitutionalist politics podcast and share episodes. We need your help. Thank you for having tuned into another Christitutionalist podcast show. I really appreciate that you stop by. Again, please like, share, subscribe. We need you to help spread the constitutionalist movement. Thank you again. Take care. God blood. Love you all.