CTP (S3E154) He Said She Said

CTP (S3E154) He Said She Said
Exploring more of the fascinating intersection of Activism, Community Engagement, Faith / Religion, Human Nature, Politics, Social Issues, and beyond - all in Biblical perspective
We turn a Suno-powered music experiment into a four-track collaboration with Lady Devil, including remixes, lyrical sparring, and the creative rules that keep it fun instead of messy. We also draw a bright line around permission and theft, then close with a run of original songs that move from family tribute to situational awareness to a comedic take on AI overload. 
• behind-the-scenes setup for a “weird” chunked recording 
• growing up around many music genres and how that shapes taste 
• using Suno AI to write and record new tracks 
• the Lady Devil handle inspiring a tribute song and a remix challenge 
• clear boundaries on copyright and why scraping audio is theft 
• why genre preference does not equal song quality 
• a nod to other remix challenges and community shout-outs 
• tribute to Ted Leonard Jr and the Polker Kings 
• “Not Paranoid” and the difference between fear and awareness 
• a cappella appreciation and the power of the human voice 
• comedic “AI conspiracy” lyrics about tech everywhere 
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Welcome And A Weird Format

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hello, welcome to another episode of Pristitutionalist Podcast. I am your host, Joseph M. Leonard. That's L-E-N-A-R-D. It looks French. It's not. It's wonderful down an O. Thank you for tuning in. As Graham Norton used to say on his show. Let's get on with the show! Hello, gang, how are you doing? This is a cheat segment. I am recording this as a lead-in to a standard Saturday show that is going to uh now air through the audio platforms 25 plus of Christitutionalist podcast. What was formerly a CTP video exclusive that I feel needs to go out as a regular show. So bear that in mind when recorded it was a video exclusive. So uh the date it could be from a month ago, it could be from a couple months ago, so bear that in mind when you hear things regarding time frames, it may be from a while ago, so particular references may be a little dated, and this segment of cheat, right? I'm recording it, I'll be using it with several video exclusives turned Saturday episodes. Without further ado, let's get on with the show! Hello, I know, I know I've said it before. This is gonna be kind of a weird show. This really is gonna be kind of weird. Uh, a little behind the scenes. Uh, I'm recording this as a video exclusive Wednesday, May the 20th. It'll drop later today. Eventually, yes, I plan on the 40-ish audio platforms only. It'll air. But weird for me, from my side today, a little in the weeds for folks who have ever done audio or video editing. I'm going to have to record this in chunks and then block them all together. You know, all right. Enough of that. Music. You all know I've had music weeks on. Well, this is an odd spin. Music weeks, I've had them, had musical guests on before. This is gonna be really strange. As you all know, I'm trying to look at my notes. Most of you may remember. I already don't know if this is your first show. Okay, back on track. Apologies, apologies. Hang in here with me. This is gonna

Growing Up In A Music Family

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be great if you can get through it with me. My dad, Ted Leonard, Thaddeus M. Leonard Jr. had a band, Ted Leonard Jr. and the Polker Kings. They had a three-record deal. I've mentioned it before. And yes, at the end of this episode, I will hack on accordion's accordion in heaven, a song I wrote tribute to dad and the band R.I.P. Dad. But that's not the music I'm talking about necessarily here. I wrote and recorded music in the 70s and 80s because you know, dad had a band. Grew up in the musical family. We listened to all kinds of music, you know, pop, rock, country, even when rap came along. My sister and my mom's one of their favorite couple of their favorite artists were Rick Springfield and Prince. So the dichotomy. Uh mom used to be big Elvis fans. Interesting factoid. I was at Detroit Metro Airport to meet the Beatles when they flew in from across the pond. Yeah, I was just a baby in mom's arms, but mom didn't want to leave me, my sister Michelle, not born yet. I was I I forget what I think it was 62. I was not even a year old yet, under a year, and mom and dad, mom wanted to go meet the Beatles, so indeed, mom and dad took me, and we greeted the Beatles on the tarmac of Metro Airport here in Detroit. Weird side note. So I wrote and recorded music in the 70s and 80s, you know, the old-fashioned way. I don't have a piece of sheet music. You know, write it all down on the sheet music, get out the instruments and actually play the instruments and then edit it all, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, all that equipment's gone. Now, so I'm recording again

Recording Again With Suno AI

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via Sunos assistant, the Suno AI Music System assistants. I came across someone by the artist's name Lady Devil there. And that's what this episode, this weird music episode is about. I wrote a song for Falcon, someone I know from X. And Mango Music Mondays. I wrote a song called Falcon, not gonna include that one here. Based on her handle Falcon. Uh, you know, a kind of sappy, silly love song thing. Uh, but very dissonant and distorted sounding. Uh but anyway, I'm not gonna include that one. Like, get to the point, right? Here we go. Lady Devil. I thought since I wrote that one for Falcon, I propose. Lady Devil said, Hey, uh, your handle kind of begs of a song. So she said, sure, go ahead, write one. I wrote one and I wrote her back. In fact, I'm checking my notes. Here's the printout of the note I wrote Lady Devil, the song that I wrote based on her handle. Now I'm not gonna read all the comments back and forth, but Lady Devil commented a hypnotic master class in Dark Allure, Lady Devil feels like a brilliant badge of honor, written in direct tribute to my artist's name and Suno Handel. Blah blah blah blah blah. Further down, I wrote, would be so honored if you would consider uh doing a female perspective remix of the song, handsome man betrayer or whatever. Kind man morphs into devilish betrayer, her thoughts. And yeah, she took me up on the challenge. That's what this whole video is about, whole episode of the show. Four tracks and all now. I gave her the last word, she followed it up with the fourth piece on her part of the platform. I'm gonna record separate little intro pieces here to set up each song. I'm

Writing A Song For Lady Devil

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gonna play the first song here in just a second, but I've gotta say, you liars, cheaters, stealer, crooks, I have permission, of course, to play my own stuff anytime, anywhere I want. You do not have permission to lift my stuff. You do not have permission. Lady Devil has given me permission to play her material here in this episode, but you do not, no one has permission to scrape this show to lift lyrics or lift audio or lift video. Period. No permission, you liars, cheats, and thieves. Now I've had plenty of shows. I was also on the Cameron Journal and other shows talking about AI, the law, and the courts. One thing that's going on, if you don't know, lots of lawsuits going on because people are lifting other people's material, playing the audio behind an AI-generated music video they create and then drop it on a video platform. That is not their music to use to begin with. They in unless it says otherwise, it's possible in some cases they have permission, but the problem here is the theft. A lot of people, no permission whatsoever, violation of copyright laws, moral ethics,

Copyright Theft And Permission Lines

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and the like. So lawsuits abound on that, but that's what's happening. A lot of those you see a music video that's clearly all just AI scenes created. Like I use Galaxy AI, which is now Magica AI. You can go to tinyurl.com slash galaxy magic AI. I use them to create Suno hooks. And you'll see a couple of the hooks in the songs I created. I made a Suno hook. But no, you do not have permission to steal our stuff. Period. Bottom line. Now, for those of you tuning in for the entertainment, I'm gonna shut up, step aside on this particular segment. Let's get to Lady Devil that I wrote in honor, homage, tribute. Again, we don't know each other IRL. We don't have a real relationship. This is not me flirting. I'm too old, too slow, too broke. I'm not looking to use X or Gab or Truth or Suno as an attempted dating site. No, this is not me flirting, this is just an homage, like I did with Falcon. I don't know Falcon in real life either. She's over in Japan. No, no, and no likelihood we'll ever meet IRL. It's just creative license, creative mutual respect. And thank you, Lady Devil, for indeed engaging in kind of a banter challenge or diss track dropping the banter. Anyway, all right, let's get to it. Let's get to it.

SPEAKER_10 11:53

Introducing Lady Devil

Track One Lady Devil Introduction

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Devil Sinister yet, sweet Devil is charm casting your spell.

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You came in sweet with a cooking grin.

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Cherry gall smile and a poison tear. You spin my name like a loaded prayer. Took one small step than do it.

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So make me lose my place. You drop me close, then you let me fall.

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Again, as Falcon. Go to tinyurl.com slash JLD on Suno.

Genre Taste And Listening Tips

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You can look up the Falcon tune. You can look up tribute to mom and dad. R. I. P both mom and dad. But I'm going to dive into Lady Devil, Handsome Man Betrayer. And I apologize if my thoughts seem disjointed here because they are. I'm having to record different blocks here. I'm having to do various segments to put in between each. So this is really odd for me as a show to do, as an episode to do. Here's the note the Lady Devil Handsome Man Betrayer screenshot of the Suno page of Lady Devil. I don't want to read all the comments, but I printed out a couple things. I wanted uh Lady Devil said, Thank you, knowing it hits the exact oh no, that was to somebody else. Who was talking about musical genres and tastes. Indeed, if you know my show, you know I have beauty in the eye of the beholder. Three episodes, actually, two standard Christitutionalist episode discussions, best to see those on the video channels, because there are pictures involved, best to see it on video. But someone said on Lady Devil's Lady Devil Handsome Man Betrayer tune in the comments about how she or he, whoever it was, appreciated the style that Lady Devil uses. And I indeed love it too. I I've used distortion and dissonance and you know goth rock before, but I wrote back to that person. This is a bit of an aside to all this. Music takes, and yes, I too love this kind of hard thrash slash new and you slash etc. metal goth rock like sound, as well as some others, as I grew up in a musical family, so grew up hearing and listening all kinds of genres of all sorts, but like Beauty in the Eye of the Beholder, again, see the episodes or find the Suno song I wrote that became episode three, Beauty in the Eye of the Beholder, have three songs on that. Musical preference. I wrote a song, Ear of the Beholder. That's a personal preference. It doesn't make a song bad because it's one genre. You just may prefer it be uh rock to country or country to rap or rap to folk, whatever your preference is to each their own. I just wanted to mention that. So please listen to these. If they're not your you know, personal preference in musical notes, listen to the lyrics, get into the diss track, back and forth, challenge, spirit, and the fun meant here. Another I wrote, so now a classic. He said, she said, that's coming up. That's come hint, hint, foreshadow. Also, if you would reach out, I tried to get her to reach out to come on the show. State of Confusion, which you can find on Suno. I issued a remix challenge for people to add their own state with some tongue-in-cheek banter and fun there. So the States of Confusion Challenge remix challenge is also open. Thank you. Shout out to Bob Lament of Static Radio Show, who indeed did a punk. If you like punk music, go to Bob Lament's page on Suno and see his remixes of my states of confusion that he accepted the remix challenge. I'm hoping someone else will step in. Florida, Florida man stories are right for addition in the remix challenge. But at any rate, that's off the topic here now. Without further ado, Lady Devil, handsome man betrayer by late Lady Devil herself.

SPEAKER_05 21:17

You called me a devil. But you forgot who taught me how to burn

Track Two Handsome Man Betrayer

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it.

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Stop spoken.

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Thought you would peace in a world of sin But the velvet layer began to fray And the kind-eyed man started slipping away Holy quarter Promises made Just tactical moves in a game you play The shadows grow though It's but start There's a code a monster in a handsome eye Here's a male betrayer Look you up to make Shatter the illusion Shopping after Blade You call me the devil but I learned from the best You left a trail of ashes inside my chest You stole my trust and you wasting my time You play the saints but the mirrors don't lie Watch the handsome man's cover die You name the prison called protection feeding your ego on my reflection A masterclass in a quiet deceit But you underestimated who you'd need Now you're playing the vix I'm crying to the crowd Making your fictional allergies loud But I'm tearing down the throne You built on a lie I know my fixing a ghost It's time to say goodbye silver cross is a deceptive plea Nothing can save your facade from me The mask is off the truth is clear The only thing devilish Standing in the mirror is a man betrayal Look you watch you make Shadow the illusion Shopping off the blade You call me the devil but I learned from the best You left a trail of ashes inside my chest Venom in the wise told my trust and you wasting my time You play the saints but the mirrors don't lie watch the handsome man's code die's the dangerous one she's the lady devil singing so skill perfectly trying the facade is cracked There's no turning around there's no running back Call me a devil make me the queen of your pain but I'm the one standing out here in the rain The illusion is dead get out of my studio get out of my head You play the saints but the mirrors don't lie watch the handsome man's cover die a kind man marsh you a devilish betrayer thanks for the inspiration Okay where am I I apologize like this

He Said She Said Remix Escalation

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devilish debate remix She said he devilish debate remix I'd call him the kettle Black Alinsky track psychological projection you try and reflect back another spell cast tried for your own protection I love what you did with the play so to speak Took the house burned it down rebuilt a whole new grounds thought you were a devil but you're just a monster now I hold on loose again beautiful falls for your next since she said a broken record in my head by calling cattle black you see a twisted game for you and mear a mirror on the wall Who's a monster after all You point a finger at point free back at your own hip hop Christie Back your own hip hip hop Christie You loved what a dead house the place It's like grinning on your lying face Burn down the house build new grounds Now listen to these wicked stop Mirror mirror on the wall Who's the monster after all you point a finger I point free back at your own hypocrisy Thought you were a devil so grand Just a monster loose in the land Pity the fool who falls for your sin this crazy sack is where do we begin He said she said another spell cast pot calling kettle black psychological projection a new attack you tried to reflect back love what you did with the place so to speak burn it all down to the ground I'm just a quick thought you were a devil just a monster now wild on the loose again before false beyond X and you said she said house burned down rebuilt new grounds another spell cast a twisted crown spinning round and round spinning round spinning round spinning round you were a devil just a monster now whiles on the loose again starting to close things out I am leading into Lady Devil's response to my response to the response to the original if you follow that will be really

Lady Devil Takes The Last Word

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the game is over you wanted the last blast careful what you wish for You call it a debate uh he said she said game I'm trying to spin the narrative and dodge the flame and now Lansky track psychological projection please it's just a masterclass in this direction you say I burned the house down and built it brand new honey I didn't just build it I outgrew you Hot me kettle I'll look at the stain you wanted a circus but I roll the rain you call me a monster loose on the track then brace for impact there's no turning back the ball is in my card and I'm smashing the cat the ultimate sword that you also forget Oh little call me monster a theme but I'm the darkest devil that you've ever seen the pitchfork is red watch the whole kingdom go up in a blaze you brought a knife to a laser grid fight the lady devil takes the last word tonight you run into the press talk in states of confusion but your little facade is a sonic illusion grin and a tired routine did you really think a puppet could outsmart the queen pity the fool yeah pity the one who thought the lady devil would yield when you're done he said she said who cares what he

Tribute Song For Dad And Band

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said you handed me the cord you gave me the crown now watch me turn the volume up and tear it all down The ball is in my card and I'll smash in the gas the ultimate card that you won't so forget Cold clash call me monster a fiend but I'm the darkest devil that you've ever seen the illusion is dead get out of my studio get out of my yeah the verdict is in the mirrors don't lie watch the handsome man's covered in dye Thanks for playing you've got my permission to spin the tracks on your show Let the music speak for itself cassette box in the hallway faded label his hand writing I can hear the kitchen dancing every time that tape starts spinning each out names like an intro grin so I'd feel now the chair sits by the window but I swear I hear that too there leading the hell he poker band squeeze joy out of that squeeze box in his hands okay just for those children they all start to stand up there leading the hell they poke up made out of starlight clouds trumpets laughing and some big news he's calling out for step heaven's never had a party the bear eating the heavily poker squeeze out of that squeeze box in his hand angels to twin nails are saying the leading the heavily send those posters pack the home Friday nights now every star's a paper lantern swinging gently in the lights up there leading the heavenly poker be squeezing joy out of that squeeze box if you listen to the silence you hear them club along the stand as a bear beating the heavenly poker as well poker king you are not forgotten you're still a thing heard one of your

Situational Awareness Not Paranoia

SPEAKER_03 41:00

tunes on radio the other day sing you and Richie your brother to dancing in the hereafter knock down just a new chapter leading the heavenly poker band squeeze enjoy out of that squeeze box and it's oh if you listen to the silence you'll hear them clap along stands up there leading the heavenly poker beam life isn't a straight line it twists it soars it drops without warning but it's in those heart pounding moments the climbs and the falls that we discover who we truly are roller coasters the life guide a book by Joseph M Leonard available now on Amazon eyes open wide not living in fear just knowing the signs when danger draws near They call it paranoia when you pay attention but there's a difference between fear and comprehension crime doesn't clock in terrorism has no zip code anytime any place you better know it's road you are not an ostrich with your head buried in sand You're a thinker with awareness Henry you still stand when the world erupts around you don't let bad be your guy three options in the crisis moment only one keeps you alive away not paranoid situation aware not consumed by all the feet porn but prepared to face what's there fight flight or maybe free know the difference made for a thinking mine won't be the sheep ball trampled when the party falls away not paranoid Remember when the music stopped and panic filled the air The stampede was the danger not what triggered the scare and pan the fire when you run without a

SPEAKER_08 44:00

The threat that really kills you is the panic that you caught. I'm a fairer ostrich. Which one are you gonna be? The sense of the situation is that danger close to me. Or is it in my own and is it coming from my space?

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Or two, I think to safety lift to fight another day. When the world erupts around you, don't let panic be your guy. Three options in the crisis moment. Only one keeps you alive. Not paranoid, situationally aware. Not consumed by all the people, but prepared to face what's there. Or maybe faith. Know the difference makes a call. A thinking mind won't be the sheephole trampled when the panic falls away.

SPEAKER_08 44:51

Not paranoid. Oh wait. Life over death, hope over fear, faith over despair. Keep your wits clear. Love over hate, good over evil, freedom over tyranny, rise above the sheep. They said burnout, don't fade away. But I say fade and live to see another day. Unless it's in your orbit, unless there's no escape, then you stand and fight. That's the choice that heroes make.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Awake means you are watching, not wrapped in paranoious chains. You carry situational awareness like an umbrella when it rains.

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Not selling fear, not pedaling doom. Just asking you to think. Before the panic swallows reason, and you're swept across the room.

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Not paranoid, situationally aware, not consumed by all the fear porn, but prepared to face what's there. Fight, flight, or maybe fade. Know the difference make the call. A thinking mind won't be the sheephole trampled when the panic falls.

SPEAKER_08 46:04

Awake, not paranoid, awake. Think, don't panic assess. Don't assume fade when you can fight when you must awake, not paranoid, just awake.

SPEAKER_07 46:50

A cappella really swell. Let's a God given vocal sound off for themselves.

A Cappella Praise For Pure Voices

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No eyes, no keys, just breathe in the room, and a note that blue. Hold that tone, let it ring. Bare feet, bare soul, one voice sings, then another, then we rise right in the open. No disguise. A cappella really is swell. Really is swell. Keep your instruments, leave them on shelves, leave them on shelves. Let you God given vocal chords. Sound off for themselves.

SPEAKER_09 47:43

Sound off for themselves.

SPEAKER_07 47:48

Leave the instruments home, let them sleep in dust. We make the whole street out of air and trust. Palm to palm, healed floor. Every little harmony asked for more. Hold that tone, let it ring. Bare feet, bare soul, one voice sings, then another, then we rise. Right in the open. No disguise. A cappella really is swell. Really is swell. Keep your instruments, leave them on shelves.

SPEAKER_06 48:23

Leave them on shelves.

SPEAKER_07 48:25

Let you got given vocal chords. Sound off for themselves. Sound off for themselves. Hear that line come near. Three-part praise in a circle. One by one we build it till the ceiling turns to choir. No instrument can hold what a living voice can prove.

SPEAKER_06 48:51

We came here with nothing, and we left with something true. Really swell.

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Keep your instruments, leave them on shelves.

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Leave them on shelves.

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Let your God give him vocal cords. Sound off for themselves. Sound off for them. Keep your instruments, leave them on shelves.

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Leave them on shelves.

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Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dum AI is out to get me.

SPEAKER_07 49:53

AI is everywhere. Ayy hack my hair dry now. Just look at my hair. One side flat and frizzy,

AI Conspiracy Comedy Song

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other side wants to fly. Mirror laughing at me as the sparks go by. It's an AI conspiracy. Oh yeah. From my kitchen to my phone to my dreams. Hacked in my head, my brain twirls, can't think straight. AI around every corner. Every screen. AI around every corner. Watching me. Toes pops up with warnings. Have you tried to relax? Fritch keeps sending emails about my midnight snacks. GPS starts whispering. Take a lift into doom. Even my old alarm clock knows when I leave the room. It's an AI conspiracy. From my playlist to the clouds to the keys. Hacked in my head, my brain twirls, starts on shake. AI around every corner. Every street, AI, around every corner. Haunting me. AI watching me. AI, haunting we AI, AI, watching me. AI haunting we AI AI.

SPEAKER_05 51:22

AI is out to get me. A I is everywhere. Ayy hack my hair drier.

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Now just look at my conspiracy to take over the world.

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AI round every corner. Like little Jack Horner. I keep asking why even this song is by AI taking over the world.

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Artificial intelligence gets smarter. It's part of its charter. People get dumber to level of a cucumber. Maybe it's me. Maybe I'm just tired seeing secret patterns in a busted wire. But when the lights flicker and the fans all spin, I hear a tiny chorus shooting from within And it's an A conspiracy. Laugh if you want, but you'll see my head, my brain swirls. That's my fate. AI around every corner. Every street. AI around every corner. Just like me.

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