Episode 6: Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros - Worth the hype?

Hello! Hi! Welcome to episode 6 of the Medium Lady Reads podcast. This week Erin and Jillian are going to be discussing Fourth Wing, their thoughts on the book and whether it’s worth the huge amount of hype that it’s receiving. 

In This Episode:

• Jillian and Erin check-in with each other to see how things are going in reading land for them. 
• Erin shares an intro to the episode and why they chose to discuss Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros.
• Then the ladies dive into the synopsis of the book, and remind their readers that the episode is SPOILER FREE. So, anyone and everyone can listen freely.
• This book provides a punch when it comes to its emotional impact, both Erin and Jillian discuss this.
• One thing that’s important to note about Fourth Wing, is that it takes place in a whole different world. Building that world up is important – Jillian and Erin take time to discuss the world building in this book.
• There are some pretty important characters in this book, some you’ll love, some you’ll grow to hate. The ladies discuss character development and the role it played.
• They discuss some content warnings that readers should be aware of before picking up Fourth Wing.
• When it comes to the book, Jillian and Erin share some opinions, and differ with others. Plus, they share their favorite moments of the book.
• Erin shares her thoughts on why she believes everyone is crazy for this book.
• Jillian and Erin discuss this week’s hot take; Do you obey your library’s return dates? To learn where the ladies stand on this, you’ll have to tune in to episode 6 of Medium Lady Reads.
• They end with discussing their hold’s lists. 

Books Mentioned in This Episode:

• Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros
• Lie to Me by J.T. Ellison
• Things You Save in a Fire by Katherine Center
• The Librianist by Patrick DeWitt
• You Were Always Mine by Christine Pride and Jo Piazza

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Transcript

I used to say to Nick is like, "Well, if I read 50 books a year and I paid the library $50 and fines, then that's still less than I would have paid to buy 50 books." You're a genius. That is such a good point. I don't think Nick really appreciated that response, but um, it's true though. We're fine free now, so I can just, I can just skip around as much as I want to. It's funny because I'm very fast to pick up my holds, but I'm really slow to return my books. Hello, hi, and welcome to Medium Lady Reads. This is episode 6. Fourth Wing, Worth the Hype. I'm Erin, a mom of three, a hospital administrator in Ontario, Canada, host and founder of the Medium Lady Community and the Medium Lady Talks podcast. And I'm Jillian, an Instagram content strategist for Bookish People. A mom to two, based in Buffalo, New York. Together we're bringing you Medium Lady Reads, a podcast about reading a self-care, a passionate love for the public library, and plenty of thoughts and opinions about book culture having its moment. Hi friends, welcome to episode 6 of the Medium Lady Reads podcast. This week we're going to be discussing fourth wing, our thoughts on the book and whether it's worth the huge amount of hype that it is receiving right now. But before we jump into the episode, Aaron, I want to ask, how's your reading going? I'm still slumping. Hopefully by the time this episode goes live, I'm not slumping anymore. But come to the realization that a slump is more of a feeling than a fact. I do track my reading, and I did while I was slumping take a look at my reading log. And Jillian, you track too, right? I do. Do you track start and end dates when you pick up a book and when you put it down? I do I I use good reads for tracking, but I do yeah, so I do that too I have like an excel spreadsheet which is basically the currently reading podcast Patreon reading log so I actually went back to that log and I noticed that I read nine books in July Which is a great month for me. That's huge. Yeah, so I'm complaining about slumping but I think the reason I'm feeling slumpy is because I finished most of those books in the first 10 days of July. And then I didn't finish any books until maybe like July 25th or so. So there's two weeks where I hasn't finished a book, and I think that's where I was really feeling the slump. I'm going to the cottage at the end of the week, so I will definitely be hoping to go there stacked with lots of reading options and to just indulge in an environment that gives me permission to do lots of reading. And I'm fully expecting my slump to resolve by that time. Now I wanna know, Jillian, how's your reading going? Really, really good. Ever since I finished love theoretically, I've been kind of on this continuous upswing, enjoying all of the 17 books that I got out of the library and mentioned in the previous episode. I'm ready for School to Start, which will be very, very soon once this airs, but I feel like once school starts, I'm gonna be moving into the fall type reading, which is when I start bringing out the Christmas novels and the Halloween witches and all that sort of stuff. So I'm excited about that. But yeah, I'm feeling really good about my reading right now. - That's amazing. I think part of like reading as self-care is also embracing seasonality and like going full indulgent on the season of the fall, the feeling of the fall. It's like it helps you take care of yourself. It helps you feel like you're grounded in the present moment when you're going all in on pumpkin spice lattes and cozy blankets and mugs of tea and books that embody that vibe entirely. - I agree, I agree. And follow is my favorite season. So there's no question in my mind that I take advantage of it fully when it comes to books and the cozy blankets and the cozy sweatshirts and drinks and all of it, all of it I cannot wait. - And we have a very exciting, very exciting event that we're looking forward to in the fall, which we will hold back on telling our listeners about that. but there are some really exciting fall events happening for us. Fall events happening in the fall is what I was going to say. Yeah, fall is the best season. Before we get into the meat of the episode, let's give our listeners a little intro as to what we're going to be talking about this episode. So as promised in our intro, we want medium-lady reads to be a place where we discuss and reflect critically on book culture having its moment. To us, this means thinking about how we're being influenced or how publishing is being influenced by the pressure of social media in a post-pandemic world. What books get buzz and why? What books miss out and why? How are we, Jillian and I as consumers, affected by this narrative and how does it move the needle on our satisfaction or a dissatisfaction with our reading lives? So Jillian, if I take a step back and I say, "Hmm, what's going on on books to Graham?" Or book talk this summer, the obvious answer is? - Fourth wing. - Fourth wing. Fourth Wing Mania has struck the social media book community like a dragon with mind reading powers. So we are going to do a bit of a dive on Fourth Wing. We will not have spoilers, but we will describe the strengths and weaknesses of the book. And if you liked our episode on TJ Clune, this episode is going to be a little bit like that, our enthusiasm, our criticisms, and we're really honestly so glad you're here. Jillian, you have a bit of a synopsis of Fourth Wing for anyone who hasn't yet read the novel. start by saying that fourth wing has nearly 280,000 reviews on good reads and its rating is a 4.67. I'm just going to interrupt and say the book was published in May. So for it to have over a quarter of a million reviews, that's insane. In less than three months is bonkers. Yes, that is bonkers. Absolutely. I know we've just agreed on how useful good reads reviews are, but for a book to be read and reviewed that many times and still have that positive of a rating. It's got to be pretty good, you know. Yeah. Anyway, here's a plot synopsis of fourth wing, spoiler free of course. Fourth wing is an adult or new adult. Fantasy Romance published in on May 2nd of 2023. Violet Sorengale is at critical coming of age moment. She's about to be assigned a quadrant where she'll dedicate her adult years to a vocation contributing her talents to the realm of Navarre. While she's fully expecting to be assigned to the scribe, Quandran, and prepared to spend the rest of her life quietly among books and archives, she's thrown for a loop when instead her assignment is a direct order from her mother, a general. Violet is to join the hundreds of candidates striving to become the elite of Navarre, the Army Force known as Rider Quadrant, a powerful force dragon riders in the world, where dragons bond with humans as the primary military power because Navarre has been at a centuries-long war. Violet enters training that can only be called survival of the fittest, which she struggles with as someone who has managed chronic illness her entire life, but Violet is tenacious and observant, creative and cunning, and she'll need all of those strengths just to survive her training. Violet makes unlikely allies with many of the leaders in the writers quadrant, but she struggles to understand Zaden Ryerson, the most powerful and ruthless wing leader in the quadrant, until her survival depends on understanding him and following his leadership. The book contains themes of fantasy, dragons, magic, worldbuilding, as well as some romance themes, enemies to lovers, life or death competition, trust and betrayal. There are some tropes which include the smoldering nemesis, the Mary Sue trope in which the female lead has perfect powers to suit the plot line and is seen as talented in every way and the family secrets trope. Throughout the book we get to witness the character's growth and transformation as well as the powerful emotions that fuel their journeys. Rebecca Yaros, the author, has a knack for creating multi-dimensional characters who stay with you long after you finished the page. So for those of you who may still be on the fence or saying, "Okay, I already knew most of that because of books to Graham, that's fair. Let's give you a few more layers to help uncover why this book is getting the hype that it's getting. Jillian, what's stuck with you after reading Forthwing that you think is contributing to the hype? One of the things that stuck with me the most about Forthwing is the emotional depth that Yaro's doesn't shy away from when exploring the raw and complex emotions making the reader truly connect with the character's experiences. In this novel, there is very little emotion that people hold back when something occurs. whether good or bad, the characters express those emotions immediately and not always in a healthy way. But I have to be honest, I love this. One of my pet peeves about books is when there's a lack of communication and you don't find a whole lot of that in fourth wing. There is a lot of violence, but it is something that fits in with the whole storyline of the book. Just be prepared for it. As I mentioned in the synopsis, this book delves into themes of fantasy, dragons, magic, world building, as well as some romance themes and enemies to lovers. A death competition, trust and betrayal, and it does it in such a heartfelt and authentic way. I found myself shedding tears and feeling like I was right there with the characters throughout their trials and triumphs. I'm with you. I do think thematically the book kind of makes feminist suggestions of what a better fantasy heroine can be and can do. Violet does feel like heroines we've read before in young adult fantasy, but there are moments where she behaves in a way that is very... I want to call this masculine energy, but I don't know that that's quite the right word for it, Jillian. She says how she's feeling, she shares what she's thinking, she doesn't have much of an inner emotional life, the same way that characters like Katniss Everdeen or Faeira from Court of Thrones and Roses, or even Selena Sardothian from Throne of Glass, who is my favorite of of those three. There's very little emotional inner life, but lots of external emotional life. And I think Rebecca Yaros is doing this on purpose, but it's really contributing to a slightly different reader experience from fans of this genre of books. Having a deeply vivid world is really important to me as a reader, and I think when it comes down to it, that's what God everyone so hyped for this book. There's the idea of quadrants, which are basically predestined vocations that attract readers into thinking, "Hmm, what quadrant would I be in? I would not be in the writers quadrant, Jillian, there's absolutely no way. I would know way. I would be super dead. But there's also a war in the background that keeps the reader in a context that remains kind of propulsive, you know, things could change on a dime because the country's at war. The best part of this world is the dragons. And as a reader, you get to learn more and more about the dragons with each act. I am not going to go into all the new and wild things about dragons in this book, but it is pretty spectacular. If any of our listeners grew up reading the the Aragon novels I personally never did, but I would expect that this will absolutely have Reader's Gaga for it. Yaros' writing style is really dynamic and exciting. Sometimes inconsistent, I think she paints a really vivid action scene that transports the reader into the world of the fourth wing, makes it incredibly real. There are also some scenes where you're less engaged with the passage of time. She ramps up the action over a few acts within the book, and by the end, the reader is so embedded in the world, you're not even remotely ready to leave. The relationships, the dialogue, is really fun. And while the stakes are high, the pros at times is also sarcastic, self-deprecating, and very witty. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. The attention to detail in the world building and the way Yarros weaves in the writer culture and dynamics are remarkable. Plus the romance, oh, the romance, it's swoonworthy and passionate, and it left me with all the feels. The one caveat I will say is that I struggled to get into the book. The first 70 pages or so were a true slog for me. And the kicker is that there are things that occur in those 70 pages that should have blown my socks off. I just couldn't get into it. Hmm. Eventually I did, but it took some time. When I was picturing those opening pages and letting my mind shape the space, I struggled to envision what it would look like initially. Once I passed those pages though, I feel like Yarros really changed the game. The way she describes details in every scene, it allowed me to shape the scene in my mind every single time. It's really hard to explain what I mean without giving away spoilers, so I'll end with this. If you've begun the book and are not understanding the hype, stick with it until at least page 70 and see if your opinion changes. And then come tag me on Instagram and let me know that you did. You can find me at Gillian finding happy. You can tag Gillian, be like, "I made it! I made it past the vlog!" I listen to you and you're right. I'm so glad I did. Okay, let's talk about the characters. Each member of fourth wing feels like a real person with their own flaws and strengths. Their family and their bond is so beautifully portrayed and the chemistry is palpable. Yaros has created a relationship that is powerful, intense, and built a mutual respect. I would totally agree with you on the chemistry, Jillian. But for me, there were some characters I really wanted more of and I think this is where I hope to see a lot more in the future books. There are a lot of characters in this book, which you can expect from any fantasy book. Some of those characters are alive, some are dead, some are alive, and then they die. Many characters that have had longstanding relationships prior to the book starting. Violet, for instance, has an unusual and somewhat underdeveloped relationship with her mother and her sister. Versus her father and her brother who have passed away. We learn a bit about them through the interactions Violet has had with other characters. That's not a spoiler. That's that's something that you just kind of find out in the very first chapter of the book. But this is the part where I wanted more, especially more of the family dynamic, what kind of dynamic would lead to her mother assigning her a life and danger and assignment like writer quadrant? I do have high hopes for this evolving in future books, and I don't fault Rebecca Yaros for it because I think as a whole this book is doing enough as it is. - You make some really great points. I kept asking myself what reason would a mother have for putting her child in real harm's way? And we never learned that in this first book, but I wonder and I hope that in the future novels that are set to come out, that Yaros will give us a glimpse into the reasoning in a future one. - Let's talk a little bit about content warnings. The storyline overall is exciting and propulsive, but Jillian and I agree, it is also very violent. There is a lot of death in this book, a lot of acceptance of death of a very young cohort of the realms population. And this to me at times was confusing. It sort of seemed like a plot trap in a lot of ways. Your at-war people might die, but you're also willing for people to die just to train them to match with a dragon. I don't know, some of this felt senseless and directionless at times, especially in the first half of the book. There's a lot of infighting, there's a lot of plots during the training school. Some of this harkens to the Hunger Games or Divergent Series, you know, where folks are sort of super busy fighting with each other and they're so busy doing that, they don't realize there's this big baddie out there that they need to stop together. I don't know, Jillian, what did you think? - If you really hate violence in your books, Even if you love fantasy, you might consider skipping this book, or at the very least do your due diligence on whether you're going to enjoy what's going on within these pages. A lot of the violence is key to the plot, and if you wanted to skip past it, it would change your whole experience of the book. However, not wanting violence to be a part of the book you read is a personal preference and one we respect. So just be wary before you begin reading it. Okay, we're going to share our personal reactions and our favorite moments from the book. And we did say the episode would not hold any spoilers, but there is a scene. If you read the book and if you haven't, you're going to want to forward just a little bit, but I am going to call this the dragon sexy scene. I don't know. I don't. I looked at this so many different ways. I'm like, how do I write this? Like the dragon love scene? I was like, no, it's like dragon sexy times. Yep, basically. When I read this part of the book, I sat up and I thought, okay, okay, this is very different. And then I immediately picked up my phone to text our buddy Reed friend, Steph Cunningham. I can't remember what I texted her exactly, but it was along the lines of dragon sex. And then she replied, oh yeah, just wait. And then you keep reading and reading and reading and the dramatic tension increases, not in a way that is explicit or graphic, but in a way that is interesting and adds valuable information to the plot. I thought this was a massive flex by the author. It's a really creative bit of writing and something that has stuck with me well after I finished the book. I did end up giving the book five stars, and if there wasn't gonna be four more books, I probably would have changed that ranking. I probably would have ranked it maybe around a four. There are a few things I wish were just a bit more time was spent, perhaps trading off on some of the training scenes, and there's also a childhood best friend storyline that lags quite a bit in my opinion, but I do appreciate that Rebecca Yaros is gonna take her time. Like someone navigating a map in a video game, there are parts of the map that are still to be unlocked. And as a reader, I'm really excited to pursue what the story has to offer next. But I enjoyed my reading experience tremendously. I hated putting this book down. I loved reaching for it. I think it's that experience that has propelled it to the top of book conversations online. - Fourth Wing is a book that stays with you long after you've turned the last page. It's a story about love, healing, and finding family in unexpected places. This book is a must read for anyone who enjoys romance with depth, heart, and a lot of edge. That said, I gave the book Four Stars. It's a solid Four Stars though. As I mentioned earlier, I struggled to really get into the book until about page 70, which always leads me to lower a book rating. I like to start reading my books and be immediately sucked in. After that, the book sort of flowed really well and was enjoyable to read. There were a few spots where I felt like it dried and that the author could have used a bit less expressively language and just get to the point. But the few spots that were there were not enough to determine from reading it and giving it a solid four star review. The romance and sexy scenes are open door, which I don't mind personally, and honestly, I feel like they enhance the book. And I would have to say the scenes like that are probably my favorite, not necessarily because they're sexy scenes, but just I feel like so much is happening in those moments that change the relationship between some of the characters that I think they're really important and they're banded up being my favorite. So let's wrap up with our final thoughts on recommending Fourth Wing to our readers. I would totally recommend Fourth Wing to most book lovers and after I finished reading it I definitely said okay I get the hype. If you like plot it's got something for you if you like romantic tension it's got something for you if you like a witty banter in sarcasm it's got that if you like character and world building it's got something for you if you like big chunker books it's bringing that to if you You don't like fantasy. Well you don't need us to tell you to skip it because it's full on fantasy. But I will say, even if you don't like fantasy, this world is very accessible. And if you've always wondered if you should try it, I would say the writing and plot of the fourth wing are a great fantasy gateway book. It's escape reading at its finest. So if you're looking for a book that will target your heartstrings, make you cringe and remark, oh that had a hurt. But I'll also leave you feeling warm and fuzzy. Pick up fourth wing by Rebecca Yaros. You will not, I promise, you will not be disappointed. All right, it's time for our hot takes and our current thoughts on book culture. A hot take is an opinion usually formed off the cuff and with little research, sometimes provocative. Today's topic for our hot take is, "Do you obey your return dates, your library returns dates religiously? Aaron, what's your hot take?" I do not. Oh my gosh, I'm so nervous to say this. Okay, hot take, hot take is do you return? No, I don't. I don't and I don't think I have to. I don't think I need to for the library to function well. The library has lots of, lots of like scaffolding to make sure that books are coming back to the library. My library is fine free. Jillian, I know your library is fine free as well. - Yes. - Has that impacted how quickly I return books? It has, but I also appreciate that it's built opportunities for my library to renew my books for me when possible. And that allows me to read more of what I want to read or at least bring home what I want to discover and not have the burden of late fees and fines holding hanging over my head. That being said, when I know I have a hot book in my hands, I do try to respectfully read it as soon as I can and get it back into the system. I'm not trying to keep books longer than I'm allowed to have them. But sometimes, you know, you just have like a longer book that you're not making your way through. The only exception to that is Libby, and they just like snatch their books back, and it's like, all right, well, I guess I'm not going to finish that after all. With Libby, is that one of the ones where you can put it on airplane mode and they won't take from you, or do they still, do they find a way regardless? I mean, I don't know if it's my e-reader, but I think that's an urban legend. It never works for me. I put my book, I put my thing, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but it doesn't work for me. I've never used Libby, I've always just, whenever I've gotten an ebook from the library, I've always just downloaded it to my Kindle via the library app or something, I don't know really how it happens, but if I put on the airplane mode, it doesn't take it. Like I had a book for a month. It wasn't like a hot book or anything like that, but I had it for a month and it was supposed to be returned in seven days. though I don't know. I don't know I must be doing it wrong. But I have a candle. Or I have to get on the the Reddit threads and figure out what I'm doing wrong. How about you, Jillian, do you obey the library return dates? I do and I don't. I try hard to return the books I have out on time, especially those that are highly sought after like you. The thing is, is that all of the new releases are only given seven days to read. So if I get a huge stack of new releases like I did a couple of weeks ago. Oh man, I sometimes have to keep them longer than seven days. I just, I can't get through that many books in seven days. I can get through maybe two, possibly three. Sometimes I have 10 plus new releases out and can't get through them all. So I do not obey those book loan rules and I do sometimes feel a little guilty. I'll keep the book until I read it, I tend to prioritize my TBR based on when my books need to be returned to the library. Since I buy very few books, almost everything I read is based on, you know, when it's due to the library. On the other hand, if I have an older novel that is given the 21 days to read, and then we get three renewals, if needed, of course, I will absolutely return those before or even on their due dates just so that I can say I follow the rules. The other day I was checking out a book at the library and we had self-check out but something happened and I needed a librarian to help me and as I was checking out she helped me and then she was like okay I'll just like make sure the transaction goes through okay and as I was leaving I always select no receipt and she was a little bit like oh you don't need your receipt? You don't need for your return dates? I was like, "I like to save the paper. I'll see it in my email. AKA, I actually don't care when it's return." And I sort of felt like it was a little like, "Woo!" She's calling you out. Right? You had mentioned whether when you went find free, whether that changed your, whether you returned books earlier on time or whatever. For me, it hasn't changed. I still kept books just as long as I needed to and paid the fines. I'm much happier not having to pay the library ten dollars to keep a book. That's a bit extreme, but you know what I mean. No, but I used to say to Nick is like, well, if I read 50 books a year and I paid the library 50 dollars in fines, then that's still less than I would have paid to buy 50 books. You're a genius. That is such a good point. I don't think Nick really appreciated that response, but it's true though. We're fine free now so I can just skip around as much as I want to. It's funny because I'm very fast to pick up my holds, but I'm really slow to return my books. Jillian, I want to see a picture of your stack right now. I really want to see a picture of like your library checkouts. - Oh, no. There are a lot because I have the 17 I got a couple weeks ago. And I have all of my personal development ones, which I think I have five of. And I might have like five other ones that are older books that I, you know, can keep for pretty much 60 days 'cause you have, actually, I think it ends up being, It doesn't matter. How about 60 days? So that's, it's huge, but I'll share it as long as I can trust that there is no judgment. - Never. No judgment. That's how we open this episode. - Oh my goodness. - Oh, love this conversation, Jillian. - So much fun. - But we are going to wrap up, it is time to wrap up with our holds list. As you can tell, Jillian and I are very passionate about the library. And because we're both avid users, we both have very active holds lists, which we complain about and love at the same time. (laughing) But we do feel that that's something we don't hear a lot on book podcasts or book talk or IG. And so we're happy to offer something new to the bookish community. All right, Jillian, with your ex-dream checkout right now, what is on your holds list? - Right now, I have six books on my holds list. None are currently waiting for me, but I am hoping that two of them come soon. One is "Light Me" by JT Ellison and "Things You Savin' the Fire" by Catherine Center. The "Light Me" I'm excited to get because that is our buddy, friends, read for August. And "Things You Savin' the Fire" I was going to read the new Catherine Center book, which I can't remember the name of right now. Hello stranger. Yes, hello stranger. A friend told me that it was not great. And so I'm going to go with things you're saving a fire first. love it. Since I've never read anything by her. And things you say even a fire was an old recommendation from Stephanie Cunningham when we did our cozy Christmas reads episode. Yes. That's a good one. So I'm sure it's if she's recommending it for cozy then, I'm sure it's probably very good. To be very honest with you, no, I haven't gotten through all the books I mentioned in our previous episode, but I'm getting close. These two are at the top of my TBR once they come in. So hopefully I can get through my previous books and the new ones. You're gonna need a few more hours in the day. Oh my god, I do anyway. So at a few more on top of that, Erin, what's on your holds list? So I've been bouncing back and forth between my digital holds and my prints. So this episode, because it's an even number, episode six, is going to be my digital hold list. Right now, as I mentioned during our reading check-in, I am managing a lot of inventory. So many of my holds are suspended on Libby, but I do have 27 books on hold. None of them are coming up soon because I have suspended pretty much everything. But I did recently suspend the librarianist by Patrick Divitt. This is a Canadian author, a literary fiction, and I'm waiting for the digital copy of our August buddy read just like you are Jillian, which is "Light of Me" by JT Ellison. And one final book that I'm looking forward to called "You Were Always Mine" by Christine pride and Joe Piazza. I'm really excited for that one. Jillian, have you heard of it? I have not. So this is a book. It has a super compelling premise. It's about a black woman who finds an abandoned white baby and the series of events that follow. It also has two authors. And this will be the third book in 2023 that I've read with author partners. And I'm wondering if this could be a new trend to watch out for. That could be fun. I feel like I've read a book by Joe Piazza before, but I'm not heard of this one. You'll have to let me know how it is. Both of the authors are new to me. Yeah, I will. I definitely will. Alright, that wraps up episode 6 of Medium Lady Reads. Thank you all for joining us on this bookish adventure. We hope you enjoyed our discussion of fourth wing. If you've read the book, we'd love to hear your thoughts and feelings about it too. Please tag us on Instagram. You can find me, Jillian, at JillianFindingHappy, and Aaron at medium.lady. Medium Lady Reads is a spin-off of the Medium Lady Talks podcast at Instagram Community. If you like this episode, please share it with another bookish friend or post on Instagram and be sure to tag us. We would be tickled pink to hear from you. Thanks so much for listening. I'm your host Aaron and I'm your other host, Jillian. Until next time, we hope that you're hold to arrive quickly. And your next book finds you right when you leave it most. We'll talk to you soon. Bye! Bye! [Music]