In this episode of the Healthy Church Staff Podcast, Todd Rhoades discusses the importance of redefining 'presence' in pastoral care, drawing lessons from Ukrainian pastors who have had to adapt their methods due to the war. Rhoades emphasizes that presence is more about intentionality than physical proximity, and introduces the 'three-touch rule' for maintaining meaningful connections.• Challenges of pastors being physically distant from their congregation.• Ukrainian pastors' adaptations in remote ministry during the war.• Reframing presence not as proximity but as intentionality.• Strategies include the three-touch rule for engaging with congregants.• Encouragement to be fully present and stop apologizing for physical absence.

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