Simple Discipleship - UNFILTERED

Finding Peace in "IT IS FINISHED!!!"

Simple Discipleship - UNFILTERED Episode 57

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What did Jesus really mean when He declared "It is finished" from the cross? The profound implications of these three words stretch far beyond what many believers have considered. 

Sister Diana and Sister Audia Davis sit around the table "like the disciples" to unpack this powerful statement that changed everything. They explore how Jesus' sacrifice wasn't merely about ending His earthly ministry but completing a divine plan established before creation began. His declaration marks the fulfillment of everything we would ever need pertaining to life and godliness.

The conversation takes fascinating turns through Biblical prophecy, examining how King David foretold specific details about the crucifixion centuries before it happened. The hosts draw powerful parallels between the yearly Passover sacrifices that only covered past sins and Jesus' perfect sacrifice that atones for all sin—past, present, and future.

Perhaps most comforting is their insight that Jesus experienced everything humans would ever face, yet without sin. This means He truly understands our struggles and has already created the pathway through them. Through the indwelling Holy Spirit, we carry the same power that raised Christ from the dead, giving us the ability to overcome life's challenges.

Whether you're wrestling with understanding the magnitude of Christ's sacrifice or seeking to deepen your walk with Him, this heartfelt discussion offers profound encouragement. As Sister Diana reminds us, whatever we're facing, we never do it alone—Jesus has already been there and made a way through.

Join us for this intimate conversation that will leave you with a renewed appreciation for what was truly finished at Calvary. Then go show some love, show some compassion, give mercy, and be Jesus today.

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Welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered

Speaker 1

Hey y'all, welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered. I'm your host, Sister Diana. Thank you so much for joining me on this journey today. Can we be real? Being a Christian is not always easy, but you are not alone. So grab you a drink, grab you a snack. Let's open the word and see what Jesus has to say today. Hey, welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered. I'm Sister Diana. Thank you so much for being with us today. I'm happy to say that my co-host today is Sister Audia Davis. Say hi.

Speaker 2

Good morning.

Speaker 1

Yes, Hello everyone. Sister Audia is just truly a good friend of mine. She is my right hand on everything that we do with M3 Ministries International here in Texas, and we are just getting around the table today to discuss a couple of things. Brother Cody is going to join me in the next segment, but today I just wanted us to sit here. A lot of you know that we we no longer have a building. We're just kind of sojourners for the lord, would you say.

Speaker 1

so we're sitting around the table literally today and, like the disciples, that's right, we're exemplifying the early church in the book of Acts, right, we never pre-plan anything when we go on and do this podcast. We just ask the Holy Spirit to come and give us some wisdom, give us some understanding and anything that we can do to share with you guys today. But I had forgotten a connector piece that goes to the podcast and I ran back home and I was driving back over and I just have had in my mind what Jesus meant when he said it is finished, because it goes so much deeper than I think we've ever given it credit for. You know, we just went through the Easter season, passover. We had a beautiful Passover dinner here and celebrated the Passover and then we went to with Easter and we understood Resurrection Sunday, you know.

What "It Is Finished" Really Means

Speaker 1

But I think that we sometimes overlook all that Jesus did when he said it is finished.

Speaker 1

And why did he say that?

Speaker 1

And if we look in John 19 and 30, it says that after going through the scourging, after going through the horrendous things that he went through, I mean we can't minimize that Because you know Isaiah talks about by his stripes were healed, absolutely Everything that he did was for a purpose and for a reason, and we talked about the seven places Jesus shed his blood. You know, during all of that time, before, even before the Roman soldiers came, he was already shedding blood in the garden. You know because for our mental anguish and for you know the depression and for everything that we would ever go through, he went through those stages of where he shed his blood so that we could be healed in that area, so we could walk in victory in that area. And I love that when scripture says he went through every single thing that we've ever think we're going to go through, he already went through it so that we could too. And so what is your take on? What do you feel like Jesus was saying at that moment on the cross?

Speaker 2

At that moment on the cross, I think, when, you know, especially when I go back and I think about my salvation and I think about, at that moment, all the things that I had done, and I was just, you know, I think about how could I be worthy of this yeah.

Speaker 2

How could I be worthy of this? And to know that he took because in my mind it wasn't just him up on that cross, it was everything I did. It was everything I did, it was everything you did, it was everything, it was everything there and he was taking all the punishment for it. And that is just to me. It's an overwhelming gift that I constantly will say how can I be worthy? But he says I am yeah.

Speaker 1

He makes you worthy, and so I think we should never let ourselves not be overwhelmed by the cross. No, I think it's good that we stay overwhelmed in trying to understand what Jesus did, because it's just the magnitude of it I think that we overlook. You know. We've said you know, jesus didn't die just for us, he died as us, and that's hard to fathom that he created me in spite of me, in spite of knowing who I would be and what I would do with my life.

Speaker 1

But when I was thinking about this verse, I remembered I heard something around that Resurrection Sunday. Probably somebody that we listened to was talking about it Sunday, probably somebody that we listened to was talking about it. But we know that Jesus actually gave up the ghost. He chose to die. He didn't have to. He could have stayed here for infinity. But there was a plan in place, because from the beginning of time, there were three parts of who God is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. We know that from Genesis. They were all present already, and so, long before Jesus became the baby in the manger, he already existed for the purpose of being crucified for mankind Right.

Speaker 2

Absolutely.

Speaker 1

And so in that, because this plan had already been understood, and I think people get confused by saying, when we say that God works in infinity, god isn't limited to time and space, he doesn't live in our 24-hour-a-day, seven-day-a-week mentality, he is outside of all of that.

Created in His Image and Likeness

Speaker 1

He knows before we know, he knows and he knew from the beginning, before redemption was created, before Jesus ever came to be created, before Jesus ever came to be, he already knew that the creation he was about to create would need a savior. Yet he chose to create us anyway, and we've talked about the magnitude and the love of God of how he would love us so much that he already knowing that we would be the screw-ups, that we were yet making a way for us.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think you know something that when you go back to Genesis and this is something I was reading the other day about when God created the birds, he spoke to the sky, or the heavens when God created the sea, you know, know the fish. He spoke to the sea, but when he created us, he spoke to himself right and that has to tell, I mean for me, that tells me he loves us so much he wants us to have all the goodness that he offers us.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but that's exactly what creation shows. Yeah, it's because everything that he did up until that sixth day was for us.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And then he created mankind. And he didn't just create us, like speaking us, he actually made us into his image.

Speaker 2

Absolutely yes.

Speaker 1

You know Robin Bullock. You know you and I both love Brother Robin. He gets really deep sometimes, and so he says that in that process that God himself threw himself into the dirt, into the mud, and made a mold of man, amen in his image and in his likeness, and then breathe life into him that's powerful.

Speaker 2

That is just I mean. When you try to imagine it, you just can't. Your brain can't comprehend it.

Speaker 1

You can't because our minds are so finite sometimes that we can't go into that deeper place. But we're not meant to do all of that right. We're not meant to go into certain areas because it would just blow it, you know, it would just like explode.

Speaker 2

It's just like your brain just goes okay, this hurts, yeah, this is just enough, you know.

Speaker 1

It's like if you read about quantum physics and stuff and you're like, oh my, okay, I'm out. You know quantum physics and stuff. And you're like, oh my, okay, I'm out, you know, um. But but god so perfectly designed everything for us to sustain us prior to creating us, and his whole thing was to create us in his image. And the thing that we forget is that we're in his likeness too, so we have the ability to be in his likeness because we're created that way. That's why the transformation has to take place within us to evolve into his image. Right, so we're doing that every single day.

Speaker 1

But the thing that I want to go back to on the cross, when Jesus said, it is finished, everything that we would ever need pertaining to life and death, everything that we would ever experience, and I think that we see Jesus as being fully man and fully God. But because he had part of God, he didn't go through everything that we went through. Yet the Bible says that everything didn't go through, everything that we went through. Yet the Bible says that everything that we went through, that we go through, he went through, yet he did not sin, right, right, and so if God spoke that into scripture. It had to be that Right Truth. And so imagine that. Imagine the things that we've gone through specifically as women, things that men go through specifically as men. And the Bible says Jesus went through all of it, those thoughts, those ideas, those temptations. Jesus went through that Right.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 1

And if he says it is finished, it means he's already made a way for those things to be gone through without sin, because he sets the example, without sin, Because he sets the example. So it would then tell us that when we're going through something Because we have him living inside of us Through the Holy Spirit, right, we have the ability Inside of us Through him.

Speaker 2

To go through it without sin. But we don't. That's the issue.

Speaker 1

That's the issue, because I think that once we get saved, we say we don't get a book with that, but we actually do right, we don't read the book that goes to the instructions for our life in our discipleship. That's why we created this program and, and it's to say, the simplicity of the gospel is this jesus already paid for it all everything. Jesus already paid for it all, everything, and so, whatever the scripture says about what you're going through, there's already been a way made. Not that you can do it in and of yourself. You can't, I can't.

Speaker 2

No, I can't.

Speaker 1

But through the spirit of the one who lives inside of us, we can.

Speaker 2

We don't often choose. You know, there's times when you just go shh Holy Spirit, not today. Yeah, yeah.

Bible Prophecy as a Roadmap

Speaker 1

I don't want to listen to that today because my flesh wants to rule the moment right. Yeah, you know, one of the beautiful things I love about Scripture is prophecy. You know, you and I both are big into Bible prophecy and all that. And I remember when we first met and I started talking to you about Bible prophecy and you're like what? And I was like, yeah, go listen to Julie, Go listen to all these other ones. I said, go listen to them. And it just kind of became your thing. And so what is it that you like about Bible prophecy? What do you?

Speaker 2

At first it was like like oh, I already know what's going to happen you know that was my first deal, but now I think god is saying I'm telling you this because you're going to need to get through this and I'm giving you the keys how to get through it, which is what Jesus meant when he said it is finished.

Speaker 1

Yes, right, I'm not going to leave you as orphans, didn't he say that?

Speaker 2

Exactly, and you and I have talked about this. How scary is it going to be for people that don't know this? I know.

Speaker 1

That's my point. Bible prophecy gets such a bun wrap in that, oh, everybody's got a word from the Lord, everybody's got a word. Well, the thing is, because certain people can listen to certain people, certain people can listen to other people. There's some people that I can't stand to listen to, but you might like them, you know, or somebody else might like them, and God can speak through them to them, right? And so I think that we shouldn't negate that there is a role of Bible prophecy in what's going on.

Speaker 1

And Jesus did that on the cross. Let me just read this to you. We know that right before he said it is finished, he was offered a drink. And so it says that someone near the cross heard Jesus say I thirst. And they decided to give him a drink and they extended a sponge or a hyssop you know they call it a hyssop that they use that would go up there, extend up there. That was full of wine, vinegar and it was on that hyssop reed, right. So jesus took enough of the liquid to wet his vocal uh, vocal cords apparatus, where it says and make a final pronouncement to say it is finished. So, in other words, he was so thirsty at the time that he couldn't even get a word out. And he said but I've got to say one more thing, right, because before that, when we read the account of it, it says that they had offered him vinegar and wine and gall.

Speaker 1

Ok, now there were ladies who would go to the crucifixion site and they carried this bucket of this mixture. Okay, and this mixture with the gall, which was like a part of myrrh, had pain. It helped with pain, okay, so it numbed the pain. Now, I don't know how you can numb what jesus went through, but but it was to help them numb the pain, as they're dying, you know, and so they would often drink it to get the numbing effect of that as they're dying. And so jesus refused it. So, when these ladies brought this to him and the bible says that he refused it, why? Because he wanted to endure all of it. Yeah, he chose.

Speaker 2

He needed to go through everything, so we didn't have to.

Speaker 1

To fulfill the scripture.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Jesus' Perfect Sacrifice

Speaker 1

Right. And the cool thing about that is and I'm not saying the act of it, I'm saying what Jesus did when he took that final drink is got enough to cover his vocal cords so that he could pronounce it is finished. Because until he pronounced that it wasn't Right. And so here's the thing I want to bring to your attention. It's because we, we both love bible prophecy so much.

Speaker 1

Psalm 22, 15 says this okay, now this is king david writing this psalm, prophesying into the future of j right, Knowing that Jesus was a foreshadow. You know, David was a foreshadow of Jesus coming. And here he says in Psalm 22, 15, it prophesies that Jesus'. Extreme thirst on the cross. And then in Psalm 69, David laments the mistreatment he suffers at the hands of his enemies. So Psalm 22, 15 talks about he would be thirsty. He would thirst so much. Psalm 69 says you know how I am scorned, disgraced and shamed. All my enemies are before you. Scorn has broken my heart and has left me helpless. I looked for sympathy but there was none for comforters and I found none. They put gall in my food and gave me vinegar for my thirst. David already saw a prophecy of Jesus on the cross and it so specifically talks about that he would be offered drink in psalm 22 and he would refuse it. And then in 69 psalm 69, written by david, he talked about he would be offered the gall and would refuse it isn't that amazing.

Speaker 2

It is amazing to me that he yeah, I can't imagine, you know, obviously is something for my children. I would you know, for people I love you know. People say would you take a bullet for them or something? Like that and I can't imagine somebody and I and I would, I mean, I would do anything to protect the people I love. But can you imagine how much love he had to have for us to take all that pain and suffering? It blows your mind it does.

Speaker 1

Because the thing that gets me, though, and I, you know, we love our brothers and sisters, the Jews, and all that we do. We support them, we pray for Israel, we pray for the peace of Israel, jerusalem, every day, and they go through some horrific things, but to imagine that you chose, as the creator of the universe, these people to come through this lineage at this time. Yeah, and yet other than a handful remained with you at the end, remained with you at the end, and you're you know, it's not just because they were Romans that they were mean to him. The Romans were horrific to Jesus.

Speaker 1

What they did, the crown of thorns, which was like a helmet, nailed down onto his head, you know the stripes that he took, and I say it's more than 39, you know, because they weren't Jews, they didn't have a limit in the Bible talking about, you couldn't even characterize whether Jesus was a male or female or what he was, because it was just that horrific. Yet, on the cross, at the end of that, after you're nailed there, right, you ask the Father to forgive them because they don't know what they're doing. Yeah, right, and that's even in the middle why you're saying that they're mocking you and throwing stuff at you, and just it, just it, just blows my mind to just you know and it makes me think too about Stephen asking them to forgive the people.

Speaker 1

He did the same thing that Jesus did.

Speaker 2

And can you imagine if somebody you know in this day and age it's nothing to be walking down the street and somebody just walk up and stab you or shoot you or something? Can you imagine in your last dying breath that you're going to say, father, forgive them for what they just did to me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, they took everything I had. Yeah, and I forgive them.

Speaker 2

You know how powerful is that, that they can, that can. I just can't imagine being able, you know, to not say you ruined my life, you wrecked everything you know, and to just have that amount of forgiveness in you.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we can do a whole podcast on forgiveness. I mean really because and the thing is that we have to understand that the reason Jesus was able to do that was because of the power of the Holy Spirit, was because of what he got at the time of baptism, and we can go into that all day long too, which we'll do another podcast on that. But, man, if we could ever truly grasp how much one that God loves us so purely that he would endure that everything, that he would endure everything that we were already going to endure, you know, he and and receive that the same spirit lives inside of us and gives us the ability to overcome things, what would our mindset be?

Speaker 2

We'd be like Jesus.

Speaker 1

We would be, and then at the point, is that that's what we should be evolving every single day. You know, we teach. You know, here we've been talking a lot about the transformation of the Holy Spirit and not negating his place in our life. There's always a controversy Do you pray to God? Do you pray to god? Do you pray to jesus, to pray to holy spirit? You know they're all the same. Yeah, you know, we don't give deity one over the other. We, just we, we. We know that they work together as one um, and when we pray, we do pray to god in the name of jesus, through the power of the Holy Spirit. But there's nothing wrong to say Holy Spirit, come and be with us in this place, you're welcome here, because we're often we don't mind shoving him out of the place that he should be, so it's not wrong to ask him to be here and say you're welcome to come here, you're welcome to fill this room, you're welcome to speak through us, right?

Speaker 2

Absolutely, and I think too many times we negate that power we do.

Speaker 1

We negate it so much. I think we should do just a whole other little podcast on the Holy Spirit, on the Holy Spirit, but if we can, just for today, fathom that the reason why Jesus died not because he had to, he was very young, 33, you know, he was very young to die but in order that the plan be accomplished, that was set out from the beginning. Jesus was just one person that could be one place at one time. The Holy Spirit can be in all places, at all times.

Speaker 2

And we carry him with us at all times. Ties. You know something? That too, that kind of set with me, was that when the jewish people, every year they would during passover they would go and they would sacrifice. Yeah, the perfect lamb yeah, but that was to atone for the things they did that year. Yeah, it didn't atone for what was going to happen.

Speaker 1

No, you had to go raise a whole other one for the next year.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so you know, but Jesus was such a perfect sacrifice.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

Speaker 2

That he atoned for things we don't even know we're going to do.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that was. I just had the conversation with the kids yesterday. You know we were in the car for a long time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you were.

Speaker 1

And so there were a lot of questions, and so we got on to Jesus and talking about do you understand why Jesus died? And so they were like well, why did he die? Why? And of course baby said, was he bad? And I said, no, he wasn't bad, you know he wasn't, but we're bad.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And he paid for our bad and they were so upset Olivia especially, was upset when, I said they used to have to take baby lambs. She was so distraught. I'm going to have a baby lamb one day and I'm going to let it grow up. And I was like you can. Now you know it's like that's the point of Jesus you know you can, you can let it grow. It doesn't have to be sacrificed anymore. Jesus was a sacrifice and she was visibly upset and I was thankful for that.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

And I said we should never not be upset when we think of what Jesus endured for us. Right, yeah, and so imagine you. And we'll end it with this, but I know I've had this conversation with myself. But imagine if you were Jesus at the beginning of creation. You live outside of time and space, and so you already know what you're going to endure. Would you not have said, father, is there not any other way that we can do this?

Speaker 2

Let's sit down and talk about this.

Speaker 1

I know that we've discussed it before, but now that I see it happening and the moment is here, am I going to call on the angels or am I going to go through? Yeah, right, I just find it encouraging for myself that whatever I'm going through, it's never going to be what Jesus endured for me, right, yeah, it'll never be to that magnitude. And if my mindset says I'm not going through this alone, he always promised that he would be with me through everything. Might not be what I think I need to go through, but if he thinks I need to go through it, then I know that there's a purpose, I know there's a plan and I know there's a way out, and I know that I'm not going to do it alone.

Speaker 2

Right, and I think that's the greatest gift in this world. That's right To know that. Okay, I was screwed up. I've really got myself in a world. That's right To know that. Okay, I screwed up. I've really got myself in a mess, but I know he's going to help me.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

I know he's going to be there and he's going to hear me and he's going to understand.

Speaker 1

Why.

Speaker 2

Because he loves us so much, because he loves us, and it is finished. And it is finished.

Speaker 1

And it is finished, and it is finished and it is finished all right, so we're gonna to go today. We're gonna play our thing at the end. I want to just give everybody a thank you for who has been giving to the podcast to keep keep this running up and going. Um, we appreciate you so much. Um, listen to the closing. It'll tell you how you can give. If you haven't, but you'd like to, we do. Pray blessings over that, but I always leave you with this to go show some love, show some compassion, give mercy and go be Jesus today.

Speaker 1

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