Authentic Faith Conversations

Have you ever wondered why God sometimes delays answering your prayers? What if His timing serves a greater purpose than you can see right now?

We gathered around the table for an unfiltered conversation about God's sovereignty and divine timing. This powerful discussion began with a simple observation about the lame man healed in Acts 3—why did Jesus pass by him numerous times during His ministry, only for Peter and John to heal him later? Brother Ernie shares profound insights about appointed times in our spiritual journeys and how God's delays aren't denials but rather strategic positioning for His perfect plan.

The conversation takes an unexpected turn as we explore what it means to "shake the dust off your feet" when people reject the gospel message. Through powerful personal testimonies, we wrestle with the sobering reality of those who repeatedly refuse God's invitation until they reach a point where their hearts become hardened. These raw, honest reflections challenge us to consider both God's patience and the urgency of responding to His call.

Perhaps most comforting is the revelation that God's sovereignty—not just His faithfulness—provides our greatest security. As one participant shares, "We tend to think of ourselves as physical beings having a spiritual experience, but we're spiritual beings having a physical experience." This perspective shift helps us trust God's timeline even when we don't understand His methods.

Join our authentic roundtable discussion where no question is off-limits and everyday believers share how they're navigating faith's most challenging aspects. Listen now to find renewed hope in God's perfect timing and sovereign care for every detail of your life.

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Transcript

Welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered

Speaker 2 0:13

Hey y'all, welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered. I'm your host, Sister Diana. Thank you so much for joining me on this journey today. Can we be real? Being a Christian is not always easy, but you are not alone. So grab you a drink, grab you a snack. Let's open the word and see what Jesus has to say today. Hey, welcome to Simple Discipleship Unfiltered. I'm Sister Diana and I'm so glad to be joined. An actual around the table experience today, and I'll just go around and introduce everybody. We have Brother John Ernie Perez. Say hi.

Speaker 3 0:56

Hello, hello.

Speaker 2 0:57

Hello, I have Sister Ann Atkins.

Speaker 1 1:00

Good to be here.

Speaker 2 1:01

Thank you and Sister Patty Perez. It's my honor to be here. Oh, thank you and Sister Patty Perez, it's my honor to be here. Thank you and Sister Audia Davis.

Speaker 1 1:09

Oh, happy to be here. Thank you for having me, sister Tammy.

Speaker 2 1:11

Williams, hello, and Sister Sandy.

Speaker 1 1:15

Hello, I'm happy to be here.

God's Appointed Time for Answers

Speaker 2 1:17

I'm glad to have you all today. We just finished talking about Acts. We're doing that simple presentation on the book of acts, chapter three. We started chapter three and, um, while we were having lunch, we all just kind of said, you know, hey, we started some questions, um, it not necessarily has to be about acts or or anything that we've previously been discussing, but if there's anything that I told the girls and everybody around here, if there's something that you had a question about while we have Brother Ernie here and Sister Patty here to help us, let's talk about it. So how about we just talk about it today, right, I love that.

Speaker 2 1:56

You know, in the intro, you know, I say get your drink, get your snack, and let's just open the word and see what Jesus has to say today. And I love that. I love that. You know, we had a really wonderful day yesterday. We went to a conference and really got fed really good there and Lord actually even gave us a word there, and that's always positive and we're so thankful for that. But there's nothing like digging into the word and just seeing what he has said and what he's saying now. It's still relevant, right, brother?

Speaker 2 2:32

The word is still relevant and it's still operating, it's still alive, and I know that the girls all around here have some questions, but I want to ask you some then, because you were reading, when you were reading chapter three, and I'm going to go first just because it's my podcast. No, I'm teasing, but I just I, I, just I. What was on my mind is the reason is I want to say that, that that I, that I saw something in the word when you said it, and if you go to Acts, chapter three, if you want to look at that I know a lot of you are driving and stuff, so don't but the thing that happened was, when we look at chapter two, it says and there was a certain man there who was crippled from his birth and he was carried along and he was laid there in which he would call out and beg for gifts or for alms or however you want to put it Right. And so we know that Peter and John had went out and they didn't have anything tangible to give, but the man asked for a gift. He asked for a gift, and so when he asked for a gift, that got their attention.

Speaker 2 3:58

And here's the thing that I think that we often miss is when we ask God for something, it gets his attention. Had he just been sitting there begging and just saying, you know, rattling his little can, nobody probably would have paid attention because, understand, he's probably been doing this for years. Jesus probably passed him multiple times, the disciples probably passed them multiple times. The disciples probably passed them multiple times too, but on this day, at this appointed time that's what I want to get into. He asked them for a gift, and they responded yes and so, even though they didn't have anything tangible to give monetary, if you will they knew that what he was asking for was more than just alms, and I think that sometimes that we forget that God has an appointed time for things that we ask for.

Speaker 3 5:13

Amen.

Speaker 2 5:14

Right.

Speaker 3 5:15

Amen.

Speaker 2 5:16

So what do you think about that?

Speaker 3 5:17

Well, you remember that. Paul said in his teaching that in the fullness of time Christ came, and time is something that is for our benefit. God uses for us. There is a beginning of time. God said let there be light. That marked the beginning of time. Evening and morning were the first day after there was light. Evening and morning were the first day after there was light. And the end of time is in the book of Revelation in the city where the Lamb is the light.

Speaker 3 5:57

So time? For many years now I've thought time is a space that God gives us for repentance. He doesn't need time. We need time so that we can have the opportunity to gain understanding. Something that you said that is very important is that it's possible. Jesus passed this man every day. One of the things I did not look up was what was the time lapse from, say, acts 2 and 47 to Acts 3 in the story there?

Speaker 2 6:26

I didn't look up the timeline. I guess I Googled that because these are the Google queens. I guarantee you I did Okay.

Speaker 3 6:31

Earlier. Okay, okay, what was the time lapse, sister?

Speaker 1 6:34

They didn't say there was one.

Speaker 3 6:36

They didn't say so it could have been a few days or a week.

Speaker 1 6:41

They didn't give it a certain amount of time.

Speaker 3 6:43

Okay. So we don't know what the time lapse was, but we know that Jesus is pretty much settled, although I did hear one person postulate one time that Jesus' ministry actually lasted 18 months, but it's most commonly believed to be three and a half years. Months, but most commonly believed to be three and a half years. And here then, if we take that into consideration, jesus went through the temple. How many times? Yeah, the apostles went to the temple. How many times? Three times a day, devout Jews, we understand. So it wasn't this man's time to be healed. According to God's wisdom and I think this is something that we oftentimes have a difficulty accepting have a difficult difficulty accepting god's sovereign will. Yeah, is, without a doubt, the right thing, but if it doesn't include getting rid of my discomforts, then we can say no, how can God do that? We don't see time the way God does, and God is all-knowing and only righteous and only pure. And sometimes, knowing why God does a thing won't happen until we cross to the other side. He doesn't owe us an explanation, he is the creator. But from my understanding as I read through this scripture, this miracle didn't need to take place under the ministry of Jesus, because this proves that miracles are happening, like Jesus told them. They would Just look at Mark 16. Jesus told them you're going to lay hands on the sick and they'll recover. This is to see that Jesus is in us, working in and through us. I mean God can make a miracle appear out of anywhere, but it seems he takes great joy in working miracles through those who were created in his image. It just seems that this pleases God. And working miracles through those who were created in his image. Yeah, it just seems that this pleases God, this gives him joy, and I want to please God. Yeah, absolutely. And I think by waiting until now for this man to be healed, it is a stamp showing that what Jesus teaches comes to pass. What Jesus prophesies comes to pass. I told you to lay hands on the sick and they'll recover. I told you freely you have received and freely give. I told you lay hands on the sick. Open the blind eyes, raise the dead. I told you that you know, open the blind eyes, raise the dead. Yeah, I told you that, and perhaps this is where we need to associate ourself. Well, we need a more complete picture sometime of scripture, with god telling joshua be strong and of a good courage. Yeah, yeah, but what if I I?

Speaker 3 10:22

I guess my first experience like this? This is a lengthy answer. I'm sorry. No, it's good.

Understanding God's Sovereign Timing

Speaker 3 10:27

My first experience like this is I was going to a Bible study. I just recently received the Holy Ghost and my deliverance. I hadn't yet been water baptized in the name of Jesus, but I was walking with God and he's walking with me and I had a friend named George and George was now becoming interested in scripture and he went with me to the Bible study. He and another guy, and the man named Jerry was holding it and we were actually listening to a cassette tape of a preacher and the preacher was saying simple things like it is the blood of Jesus that washes away our sins. There's power in the blood of Jesus.

Speaker 3 11:12

And George sits there and says I don't understand that. Now me, I know I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but George is. George is a brilliant young man. But George is George is a brilliant young man and, as far as intellect goes, I might have been able to stand in his shadow a little bit. But he's saying I don't understand that. And then the man keeps teaching and he comes back and says why Jesus died on the cross. His blood had to be shed. I don't understand this. And this goes on for a few minutes. It's the first time, first or second time I heard the audible voice of God. And God said to me there's an evil spirit in George, cast him out Now. It was so clear he was sitting on my rise. I looked, there was nobody sitting there, so I thought to myself.

Speaker 3 12:13

Well, I mean, you may have been off of drugs for a couple of weeks, you know and I literally ignored the voice. And the voice came back, somewhat authoritatively, and said I said there's an evil spirit in George. Cast him out. Wow. And I looked again and I didn't see it. So I'm just, this is not happening to me. I'm not wanting this to be true.

Speaker 3 12:42

And the third time the voice spoke, there was so much authority in it that it caused fear in me. People might call it reverence, but there is a certain amount of awe and fear. And so nobody could hear me. I whispered so low, nobody could hear me. I whispered so low, nobody could hear me. And I reached over. George was sitting across from me and I touched him on the knee, just very so lightly, to not get his attention, and I dropped my head and didn't let anybody hear me. Only Jesus and the Lord could hear me. I said I rebuke you in the name of Jesus. Come out.

Speaker 3 13:27

And he threw himself back in his seat, physically, violently, started to shake, and then he started to nod like a junkie, and some of you know what that means. He started to nod like a junkie and then he looked up and he says I'm so tired I don't know. I just. He started complaining about no strength and no nothing. And the Lord spoke to me again and said pray for him to have strength. He didn't have to tell me a second time then.

Speaker 3 14:01

I was so scared from the first experiences. So I touched him and I said, in the name of Jesus, receive strength Again, only loud enough for Jesus and the devil to hear me. And he said yeah, I just feel so. And when I did that, he said but I feel real good right now. It was like a cartoon. I just didn't know what to think.

Speaker 3 14:22

And then he started talking about his pains were gone. We found out that, uh, there on at the base hospital for weeks they had been uh, treating him and trying to diagnose him for some very severe chest pains he had throughout his upper abdomen and his chest, and he was astounded that he was not in pain. He never had pain like that again. Why didn't God heal him before that moment? Hmm, yeah, not long after that, that night he received. The Holy Ghost starts speaking in tongues. God's timing is because in his ultimate will he is all wisdom, he is all knowledge. We can't stand that sometimes because we're in pain. Right now, god, right now I'm hurting, right now, he knows that. Yeah. Right now, god, right now I'm hurting, right now he knows that yeah.

Speaker 1 15:30

You know, mama Carolyn was talking to us one time. Carolyn Burkhart.

Speaker 3 15:32

And she. She's talking about the fact that God gave her a revelation when she was in the chiropractor's office being treated and he was moving her around and they call it subluxation adjustments and she said she got a little bit perturbed with him. She said don't you know this hurts. And he said I'm sorry, ma'am, I have to be more concerned with your healing. Chiropractic treatment is about the manipulation of the spine and that doesn't always feel good. But his statement, she said suddenly her eyes just opened up to what God was doing. Sometimes God can't be concerned with our complaints.

Speaker 3 16:22

He has to be concerned with our complaints. He has to be concerned with our growth. He has to be concerned with our healing on the inside. He has to be concerned with the growing of our faith and Christ being formed in us and we're letting things come in between us and God's working out of his plan in our life. So I know God's a miracle worker. While I've been sick I've prayed for people that God healed. It's really frustrating.

Speaker 2 16:53

I know when I was in a wheelchair people would get healed and start walking.

Speaker 3 16:56

I'm like what about me? Yes, yes, it got so bad. I told the pastor at one church I don't want to come up and pray for the people that are, because they're going to see what I look like and yada, yada, yada. But you should go find if it's out there on youtube anywhere. You gotta have the want to by alan arms and see how God used this man.

Speaker 2 17:21

Text that title to us Mom You've got to have the want to.

Speaker 3 17:26

Author Alan Oggs. What a testimony. The Apostle Paul never got his healing. I wonder what he felt like. You know. He said I prayed three times. There's a thorn in my flesh. And finally God said to me my grace is sufficient for you. Yeah, but he was sending anointed handkerchiefs out and people were getting miracles. You know the apostle Peter's walking down the street because folks believe when his shadow passes over them, god's going to heal him. You know, these are fabulous things, but how long was Israel in Egypt before they were delivered?

Speaker 1 18:09

400 years 400 years, god's timing.

Speaker 3 18:14

How long was it till Jesus came from the time the promise was made to Adam and Eve in the book of Genesis? Your seed will crush the head of the serpent. In thy seed, abraham, all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, not seeds as of many, but seed as of one. In the natural, at that time it was Isaac, but prophetically it was Jesus.

Speaker 1 18:48

In thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.

Speaker 3 18:51

So I think it's important that we learn that when God doesn't answer, it's because he's doing something more important than what we think we want. We have a hard time with that, but he, the sovereign god, he's sovereign. Yeah, he's sovereign. We were in our daily devotion. A question came up one day about what's the thing about god that most comforts you? Mama Mama said his faithfulness and I said to her baby I know it sounds strange, but for me it has become his sovereignty, meaning that no matter what I face, the sovereign God has my life. And I looked to Romans 8. We talked about Romans 8 after that. Nothing can separate us from the love of God Not life, not death, not pain, not agony, not sorrow, not famine, not pestilence. Nothing can separate us from the love of God. We let these things separate us because we forget we are spiritual beings having a physical experience, but we tend to think of ourselves as physical beings having a spiritual experience, and that's backwards, because man was made in the image of God. Sorry, that's a long, drawn-out answer.

Speaker 2 20:23

That's okay. That's okay, all right, who else? Who has the next question? Ann, get close to the mic.

Speaker 1 20:29

Okay, mine came from Mark 6.

Speaker 2 20:34

You might have to lean in just a little bit.

Shaking Off the Dust Discussion

Speaker 3 20:36

Okay, mark, chapter 6?.

Speaker 1 20:37

Yeah, 10 and 11. Yeah, 10 and 11. Now it says that when they entered a house that they would stay there until they departed from that place. But then chapter verse 11 says whoever will not receive you.

Speaker 3 20:57

Yes.

Speaker 1 21:05

Nor hear you to depart from them and shake the dust off your sandals. But then it says that this is more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.

Speaker 3 21:18

That is a powerful statement, my answer not being the arbiter of all truth, but my answer runs along this line. It's just, I've thought about this one many times. The fact is that the apostles were part of the fulfillment of Christ's coming to the people, who had the word of God and the prophecies of God and were supposed to pay attention and understand and know. So if they chose to be willingly blind or willingly ignorant, that doesn't take them off the hook, for you're supposed to know. It's just like when you're driving down the road you don't see the speed limit sign in your neighborhood. So you go on 90 because no speed limit signs. But they give you a ticket and you say there's no speed limit sign, yes, but if you got a driver's license you learned that residential neighborhoods are going to be 30 miles an hour or lower.

Speaker 1 22:17

Yeah.

Speaker 3 22:20

That's known. Even though there's not a sign up, you get a ticket anyway here. These people should have recognized Jesus, but they didn't. They should have recognized when his apostles came exercising his will and his power. And so Sodom and Gomorrah would have repented Jesus, saying, if someone had gone through their streets doing the things that the apostles were doing, the people in Sodom and maybe not all the city, but the people in Sodom and Gomorrah would have taken note and said we need to pay attention to this. So if we're all judged according to our works book of Revelation, so if we're all judged according to our works book of Revelation, the second resurrection, those who were never saved, were judged according to their works and rewarded according to their works. This here, this reward is you have seen the Christ, you know who the Christ is. The Christ is among you and you're rejecting him. So it'll be worse for you than Sodom and Gomorrah, because they didn't understand who Lot was, that he was a descendant of Abraham or related to Abraham and to Abraham's covenant. So you know, it's just.

Speaker 3 23:41

I asked my, when my boys were like nine and ten, mama's having them learn to do the dishes, and, uh, the youngest one dropped the player and it broke. And I said what's happening in there? The oldest one says the dish dropped. I said the dish dropped. He said yes. I said dropped what? He said no, it didn't drop anything, it dropped. I said what did your brother drop it? No, he's trying to protect his little brother. I said well, what happened? The dish dropped. I said who dropped it? Nobody, it just dropped. I said who dropped it? Nobody, it just dropped. And this went around for I don't know a minute or two. And then I asked him. I said if your brother accidentally drops a plate and it breaks or two plates, but he has one plate and breaks it on purpose, what's he more in trouble for, the two plates or the one? He said oh, the two.

Speaker 3 24:49

Because he didn't understand. He wasn't mature enough yet to understand intent and responsibility. Jesus came at the right time so that the Jews could not say we can't be responsible for knowing him. It was the fullness of time, even the Roman soldier, when the earthquake came in and the ground shook. He might have been one that drove the nails, we don't know. But he looked up and said this man was the son of God. Yeah, that was an indictment against the children of Abraham, isaac and Jacob. Yeah, so to me that's what that sums up. I hope that gives you an answer that you can.

Speaker 1 25:41

Well, it does. But I just thought of another question. It's like a two-part thing. Okay, it says they need to shake off the dust. It's because now I would think that that's because that's the dust of this dirt from the city that they don't need to carry with them somewhere else.

Recognizing Spiritual Warning Signs

Speaker 3 26:03

I think it's symbolic of the fact that you do not need to accept this attitude in your life. You need to reject it. It's a testimony that you rejecting Jesus. He's rejecting you and that, to me, that's scary, because there is a place, you know, where God says I'm through dealing with you. The Spirit of God will not always strive with men, and there's a statement Jacob, have I loved, esau have I hated. I don't know if that means I hate you with a passion, esau, or I accept the fact that you reject the covenant, but however you interpret it, that's bad for Esau. Yeah, yeah, right, you know so when you witness to someone, they either accept Jesus Christ and his sovereignty. By the way, accept the Lord doesn't mean agree that you believe he lived Right or that he's the Savior. It means submit to him as Lord and.

Speaker 3 27:03

Savior, right, right and you know every day that you're alive is another chance to get right with god. Unless you're, you're like paul told the roman church, you can reject god so many times. You can't embrace sin, any sin, enough times to where god says you know what? What you love, this thing, I'm going to give it to you. You got it and it calls them a reprobate and I think it's 2 Thessalonians where he said that God sends them a strong delusion because they had not a love for the truth, so they believed a lie and they were damned. Only God knows when something like that's supposed to happen. I guarantee you, if you ever meet a reprobate because I like that's supposed to happen I guarantee you, if you ever meet a reprobate because I think it's happened to me twice it is the most depressing experience yeah when you feel like there's no hope.

Speaker 3 28:12

I've had a lot of people tell me I'll never love you, and. But I didn't feel that. Yeah, I thought you'll be alive tomorrow. You got another chance, but twice, twice, I thought oh no, you've done it, you've made a decision that God has accepted. And that was chilling. That's depressing.

Speaker 2 28:36

What do you say to that?

Speaker 3 28:38

I couldn't say anything. I didn't have a response other than okay.

Speaker 2 28:46

But, my heart was breaking. So you gave your normal or whatever you felt led to say to them. And what did they say?

Speaker 3 28:53

A testimony. Well, the first one looked at me and said I read him scripture and he said why do I have to do that? I said, well, you don't have to do it because I say it. This is in the word of God. We read it, we talked about it. He said what if I don't want to do it that way? And God had listen, god had warned me about this fellow, but I just was not mature enough, yeah, to to know, until the fulfillment of it came, that, wow, this is god really is teaching me something here. You know, I thought it was a matter of fact statements in the scripture, no, no, god schools us in areas that we need schooling. And I was just dumbfounded and there was nothing I could do in either case. One occasion happened in church. I was down at the altar. We were having a great altar service at church. A lot of worship was going on. A guy next to me broke out speaking in tongues, tongues, and everything inside of me said this is wrong. My stomach, whatever you want to call it now.

Speaker 2 30:08

Because you can sense it.

Speaker 3 30:09

I was so young in the spirit and I had not run into that before. And so I approached the pastor. I said, brother Brady, I think there's something wrong with me. He said what's the matter, brother Ernie? I said, brother Brady, I think there's something wrong with me. He said what's the matter, brother Ernie? I said, when that brother over there starts speaking in tongues, my stomach is in knots. This is not, I'm not supposed to feel that way. And he very calmly looked at me and said yes, you are, you are supposed to feel that way. And it wasn't long. That brother who tried to pass himself off as I love Jesus so much and I'm so wild for God he was gone out of the church and we never saw him again. And the stunning thing is, pastor didn't rebuke him in front of the whole congregation. There was such a powerful prayer service. I think that now, looking back, that would have thrown everything into confusion. But God had already begun working out the situation and he cut the fellow out.

Speaker 1 31:11

And he moved him out.

Speaker 3 31:12

So there is a time for sure for pastoral authority to say this is not the will of God. But there's also a time for pastor to realize if I do that, I'll destroy the wheat with the tares. I can't uproot this one because there's too much wheat around this one and I'll destroy the wheat right now. But the Lord said you leave that to me.

Speaker 2 31:37

And when you go and look up wheat and tares and you put it side by side, they look so similar.

Speaker 3 31:43

Yeah, unless you know, absolutely if you, if you don't have the eye to know, that's, that's that and that's that and possibly he wasn't yet a reprobate, possibly he was on his way to that, and so each time he came back to church was another opportunity. Every day he woke up was another opportunity to get this thing right with God. Instead, he just withdrew himself from the kingdom.

Speaker 1 32:09

The only way you could tell the difference between a tare and a wheat was at harvest.

Speaker 2 32:16

The wheat bowed and the tares didn't.

Speaker 3 32:20

Yes, yes, yes, the weight of the meat, as it were, in the head of the grain caused it to bow, but there was nothing in the head of the tare, though it looked just like the wheat.

Speaker 2 32:32

Because they grew up the same. They grew up looking the same right. Looking the same Until it was time for harvest.

Speaker 3 32:39

So you know, Paul did say there's a time, tell someone don't come back here, you go. And he said that's so that they'll figure out that their sin is damaging them. That bad, not because you want them to go to hell. And when the guy repented, paul said what's the matter with you? Let the guy in the church Pour some love on that guy. Isn't that what you wanted? Guy in the church, pour some love on that guy. Isn't that what you wanted? You wanted him to say I'm doing the wrong thing, I need to get right with god, so you.

Speaker 3 33:06

But there is a time, uh, where you shake the dust off of your feet, yeah, and, and god will let you know, that hasn't happened to me very often, but it there's been a few occasions where I've walked away from people saying to myself Lord, I can't even say Lord, help you. Yeah, yeah, wow. And it's not something that I like to brag about or talk about, but I'm telling you it's part of your experience in walking with God. Yeah, jesus said I'm the good shepherd, my sheep know my voice.

Speaker 2 33:46

We need, we need to be sensitive enough to God to know these things yeah, yeah, I used to um in our previous place where we went to service um, when they would have like a, they would always have like altar call and people would come up in the middle of worship and and and people would pray for them and stuff, and but I I don't, I would just. I'm just a person that doesn't think everybody should lay hands on everybody, because I believe in transferring of spirits and stuff, and so I think we should be cautious on who we let one touch us and two who we're touching.

Speaker 3 34:28

I would say that I think there's some training that should go.

Speaker 2 34:30

I don't think everybody should lay hands on everybody.

Speaking in Tongues: The Evidence

Speaker 3 34:33

That's a good rule of thumb. I don't think you just want to look at the church and say you can't lay hands on people because believers should, but at the same time you should have enough in you when you see somebody coming. No, that's not for you, that's not for them, that's not for me. You should know about the Spirit of God. It can't be a personal preference, because people that you never dreamed will be saved will be out preaching the gospel. Being led of the Spirit is so very, very important.

Speaker 3 35:09

This is why we need the baptism of the Holy Ghost and why Peter promised it. Peter promised and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. He didn't say and you have to speak in tongues. You hang that responsibility over somebody's head and you have to speak in tongues. You hang that responsibility over somebody's head. They cannot make themselves speak in tongues, but you make them understand. This is part of the promise of God. It's like inhaling and exhaling. God keeps his word. You will be baptized in the Holy Ghost. And when you are initially, you will be baptized in the Holy Ghost. And when you are initially, you will speak in other tongues. But you know you don't Just best. I ever heard it? I heard an old country preacher say when you buy a pair of shoes, do you go into the shoe store and start demanding to see the tongues in all the shoes? You don't worry about that because if you get the shoe it comes with a tongue.

Speaker 3 36:07

Yay, if you're baptized in the holy ghost, it comes with a tongue. All right, you're not. You don't have to go through there rummaging through the shoes to make sure that every shoe has a tongue. Yeah, that's foolishness. And and when people say that it's, it's not the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost, well, it is in Acts 2. And you'll see, it is also in Acts 3. Yes, yes, and so therefore, in Acts 2 and Acts 3, the precedent is set when you receive the Holy Ghost, there's a manifestation of speaking in other tongues. And then, in Acts chapter 8, it simon offered money to peter and john. I'll pay you if you'll teach me how to do this. Do what? What did you see? Well, what they see in acts chapter 2, what they preach about in acts chapter 3 speaking in other tongues as the spirit of god gives forth the utterance. Yeah, yeah, did paul speak in tongues when ananias laid hands on him and he received the gift of the Holy Ghost? People will tell you it's not written there.

Speaker 3 37:05

Keep reading. Don't, don't, don't. Just get that one scripture. Paul told the Corinthian church forbid not to speak in tongues. I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all. Yeah, what makes you speak in tongues when you're baptized in the Holy Ghost? Yeah, you know. Then you can in tongues when you're baptized in the Holy Ghost, yeah, you know. Then you can go on to Acts 10 and Acts 19. God is consistent. Yeah, let's don't make him inconsistent. When we make the Word of God inconsistent, the problem is not with the Word of God, yeah, the problem is with us. Yeah.

Speaker 1 37:39

Yeah.

Speaker 2 37:42

Yeah, yeah, the problem is with us, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, we're gonna do. What we're gonna do is a part two, because we've got a time.

Speaker 2 37:46

It's the way it's timed out okay. So we're gonna go ahead and close out this q a. We'll come back with a part two q a. Uh, because I know sister audio just chomping at the bit the end of the table. So you know, as we close out, we always say the same thing To go show some love, show some compassion, give mercy and go be Jesus today.

Speaker 2 38:12

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