
Proof It’s Possible
“Proof It’s Possible” is the podcast full of everything you could ever want from a morning coffee chat with a close girlfriend - or sister! Hosted by sisters and best friends, Dayle Sheehan and Jamie Francis, these ambitious ladies want to chat with you about anything…from the light-hearted trending topics on their minds, to the real, vulnerable hardships they’ve each faced.
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Proof It’s Possible
What're You Leaving Behind
Welcome back to Proof It's Possible! In this episode, we dive into the energy of spring as a metaphor for renewal and fresh beginnings—and why letting go of what no longer serves you is essential for growth, especially in business. We explore what it really means to evolve, both personally and professionally, and how to navigate change with intention and clarity. Tune in to hear:
- Why letting go of old habits is essential for growth.
- How automation can free up valuable time.
- Progress over perfection fosters a healthier mindset.
- Boundaries are important for maintaining focus and energy.
What changes are you bringing in this Spring? Share your thoughts with us—we’d love to hear! DM us on Instagram @dayle_sheehan_designs & @jamiedfrancis! See you next time!
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Jamie (00:00)
Hi everyone, welcome to Proof It's Possible. We're so excited to be back. The sun is shining, where I live anyway. The sun is shining. It's a beautiful day and it is a great reminder that spring, ooh, I just spit. Spring is here. Like I know you guys can't see right now, but you should see the cherry trees and the plum tree in my yard. They are like full of.
Dayle (00:18)
Welcome!
Jamie (00:29)
beautiful white flowers. Like, unbelievable white.
Dayle (00:31)
I know we have tulips
like in our whole front bed is like filled with tulips I mean it snowed yesterday, so you get it all where I live, but It is it's highs and lows over here, but We talked about this before in past episodes and like I Love spring and summer I love spring not because the weather is great like because it can snow where I live, but I love the idea of hope and like
Jamie (00:36)
I don't know.
Yeah, it's a real contrast, snow and spring flowers, but yeah.
Dayle (01:00)
It's the beginning of the best part of the year. And so you have that like excitement. It's like, you you book like a trip and part of the fun is waiting for the actual trip to come. you know, so to me, that's what spring is because it's I'm anticipating all the summer fun and all the, you know, and then when it comes to like my business and my life, I'm like re energized to like get back in the world, see people go out.
Jamie (01:11)
a hundred percent!
Dayle (01:30)
you know, do things.
Jamie (01:32)
Well, and we've talked about a lot on past episodes that most people do like a vision board at the beginning of the calendar year. And that's very inauthentic to you and I because we are still in like hibernation mode. We're not moving fast, we're not doing anything, we're not starting new plans. And for us, more of the vision boarding happens naturally in the spring. It's when all of our ideas come to life and we...
Dayle (01:39)
Yes. Yes.
Yeah, totally.
Yes.
Jamie (02:00)
actually feel like we can like start something new and that's kind of it.
Dayle (02:04)
Well, and truthfully, the vision board
I could make in January, I usually turn completely on its head by March or April. Like I'm like, new plan, scrap that, so excited, you know.
Jamie (02:13)
What?
Yeah, well for me, have a hard time even in the winter, have a hard time visualizing what I want throughout the year. I'm truly in hibernation mode. I'm like, it's the comfy cozies. It's the like, you know, it's cold outside, so we stay in and we watch movies and we do things that are comfortable. You don't get out of your comfort zone in the winter. That's not the time to do it, to throw on your shorts and go.
Dayle (02:29)
Same.
Root, well in routine. Totally.
Yes.
Jamie (02:46)
for a walk
because you're excited about spring. That's a springtime thing. You know, like you get to ride your bike for the first time when you're a kid. That's a springtime thing. It's a little bit scary, but it's super fun. And that's a springtime thing. In winter, you're just more like, what can I do to just like stay warm, survive? You know, like.
Dayle (02:49)
Mm-hmm. Exactly.
Yeah, exactly. Literally survive.
That's how I feel in winter. And like, if somebody wants me to move to the warmer climate, please invite me. I'll come. I don't want to keep surviving.
Jamie (03:13)
She is openly
accepting offers to move in with you if you live somewhere warm.
Dayle (03:18)
Yeah, and I'll bring my husband.
I'll bring my husband. We'll we'll just come right along as a duo. It'll be so fun. All right. Okay. So my question. Okay.
Jamie (03:28)
So, and then also I wanted to say this,
that I feel like Easter is a little bit about like, you know, the death of something and the start of something new. Like, you know, if you're a religious person at all, that's absolutely the premise of Easter. But I feel like Easter is kind of the like moment where I do start to be, start behave like it's fully springtime and I can let go of the things that didn't serve me. I can let go of the like sweatpants and the like oversized sweaters.
Dayle (03:37)
Right.
Jamie (03:57)
I can let go of the like, okay, it's good. You know, it's comfortable here and all the things. It's the time when I'm excited to like, you know, in theory, start riding my bike, jump on the trampoline, do all the things that used to bring me joy when I was a kid, but more of in a business sense, I can start dreaming again. I can start building things. I can get excited about the summer. I can get excited about, you know, like the next ultimate girls trip. Like I feel like I've come out of my hibernation and I'm ready to roll. I'm ready to do the things. So,
Dayle (03:57)
Totally.
Totally, totally.
Jamie (04:27)
I'm asking you, like, what are you giving yourself permission to, let go, leave in the winter and bring? What are you, going to start new or, like, begin in the spring?
Dayle (04:32)
Mm-hmm.
So for me, since the beginning of the year, all of the like messaging that's come through, whether I like randomly stumble upon my horoscope on Instagram or whatever the like, you know how you would just kind of get given messages, like I don't know if other people feel like this all the time. Yeah. All the messaging that like comes to me is I'm going to do things differently this year. And I'm like, what?
Jamie (04:56)
Yeah, downloads are like, yeah.
Dayle (05:06)
Like in January and February, I'm like, what does that mean? I don't get it. I don't get it. And like, I'm not totally sorted out on exactly what that means, but some big changes have happened in how I do the processes in my businesses and how I am rethinking my businesses going forward as well as adding new businesses to that. But what I'm always concerned with is that
I don't have any more time. I am literally out of time. So even if I have 5,000 good ideas, I can't execute them all. I have to be picky. I have to have systems in place. I have to make sure. And like what lights me up is actually coming up with new ideas, new plans, new businesses, new streams of revenue. But if it means trading my time for the activity of providing that service, then I'm in big trouble.
Jamie (05:37)
Thanks.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Dayle (06:03)
Like I just don't have a lot of time left. So this year I've like deconstructed a lot of stuff in my business and how I do things. And I've like leaned on my VA more. I automated things. have, I am actively like building a business that's more of like passive income opportunity, you know? So it's like,
Jamie (06:24)
Mm-hmm. Yeah,
I've had a real awareness lately of how much of me is required in my business.
Dayle (06:33)
Exactly. Cause all, cause think of how much is required of you as a mom, as a wife, as a sister, as a business owner, like as a community member who's somebody that like takes part in all your kids sports and is the team manager and does all the stuff you do, you can't be everywhere and you can't do a decent even job of certain things if you take on too much. like, so that's why I'm literally rethinking
stuff I've done for 20 years. and it I hate it. Like I'm not a change lover. I'm the kind of person that like loves bad. and I just love clinging to my like, excuses around it, why I can keep the change out of my life because the discomfort of change is way worse for me than the joy of like freeing up time and like, and even just getting a virtual assistant, I think I
Jamie (07:04)
you
No, change feels so hard.
I know. I know. I know.
Dayle (07:30)
I think we got her in September and since September I've been like, what was I thinking? Why didn't I always do this? And to my credit, yeah. Yes.
Jamie (07:40)
Okay, I'll tell you why. Because I'll tell you why. Because we
have literally interviewed 20 virtual assistants, none of which, all of which took time out of our already busy day to interview them to find out they're not the right fit. And then you kind of, well, this is for me anyways, I give up because I'm like, I don't have time to waste more time.
Dayle (07:46)
Lots. Hire them. Yes, absolutely. Yes.
or the onboarding
of it. Sometimes, like I'll go down the road and I'm like, this person seems like they've got all the skills and things that I need. And then I onboard the person completely, give them all the passwords, give them into my whole system, my whole life. And they're like not doing the job. And I'm like, okay. Now I have to unravel this, what I thought was gonna help me has turned into a problem, you know? So these are the kinds of things and like my next,
Jamie (08:12)
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Dayle (08:29)
sort of phase is to take on more technology that will help automate more of my business and do some things for me that feels overwhelming. Honestly, the act of learning, I go between being like, you can learn anything, can do anything, you're amazing. It's fine, you can learn anything in this life, to being like, it's impossible for me. I just have to decide that I don't understand what a funnel is and I never will.
Jamie (08:36)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Dayle (08:59)
and that's life, you know?
Jamie (08:59)
100 % but then it
goes back to like find someone who knows what a funnel is Stop trying to learn it all and do it all yourself, which is just So much easier said than done
Dayle (09:03)
Absolutely.
Totally. But do you
find, okay, like business idea of the day for somebody listening that wants to start their own business. I just had an idea and I have about five million of these a day. So if you feel stuck, DM me and we'll chat. And I feel like Jamie does too. Like we have thousands of business ideas a week. But be a done for you service. Whatever you're good at, be a done.
Jamie (09:24)
I need to, I do, yeah.
Dayle (09:34)
for you or done with you service. Because what a lot of people offer is like,
a video and it's like, well, I like a video, but it needs to be for a one quick thing. But if it is a complicated system on like how to build your website, let's say, just cause that's the business I'm in. The reason that like automating that business has not happened and why the like AI stuff is terrible when somebody like, you know, wouldn't believe how many clients come to me they're like, so I tried doing an AI website and like,
It's horrible. It's worse than just a template. I'm like, well, of course, because the templates have been beautifully curated and an AI takes your like one paragraph of information that you provided it and turns it into a very ugly, weird, know, not centered because it's maybe not come far enough or maybe you're not using the right program. But I find that people are really like wanting to lean on that, but maybe not using the right prompts, whatever. So if it is something new,
Jamie (10:16)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Dayle (10:39)
help people learn it, especially like if you understand AI, make a business about it. Like make a service business about it where you help people do things with AI. But anyways, that's just my today's tip. What are you leaving behind?
Jamie (10:44)
Totally.
Yeah.
haven't successfully left it behind, but I've made the decision, which is the hardest part, that I am going to leave behind a lot of the tasks that I could be outsourcing. So I am actually going to make a full effort to, if it's something that's not bringing me joy, and somebody else could be doing it.
Dayle (11:03)
Yeah.
Jamie (11:22)
I need to find somebody else to do it. Like I need to make an actual calculated effort to do it. Like not just a like, I interviewed three people, they weren't the right fit. So here I am doing it for myself. I actually am gonna like move forward from that. Like I'm gonna hire the person. And I'm gonna keep hiring the person until I the right fit. I'm also into like this really boundary stage where when people hand me things that don't belong on my plate, I hand them right.
and I'm unapologetic about it. this happens a lot in my business where people will be like, hey, can you like edit this email for me? Can you send out, you know, like billing for this? Can you do all of these things? And I'm like, this is not my task though. This is...
Dayle (12:12)
Yeah, you have a staff
member that that's been assigned to. So why it's like falling back to you. Yeah.
Jamie (12:16)
Yeah, well, and
maybe because I'm the best at it or I have the time in the moment, but I'm like, no, because what it teaches people is that, yes, I will always do the thing that you don't want to do or you don't have time to do. Yeah, I don't have time to do it either. So it's like it's a very much a boundary thing in my business where I'm like, no, that's actually not within my role. And I'm not going to do that. But I can point you to the right person. can't, know, like so that. So that I'm teaching everybody that like.
Dayle (12:19)
Yeah.
sure. I've had to do this as well.
Jamie (12:44)
what my role is and this is my boundaries. So don't, you know, kind of reach it. the other thing I'm letting go is, like being hard on myself for like, not exercising enough, not drinking enough water, like, cause I feel like the more energy I give it, the more I go opposite from my goals. Like I'm the kind of person that like back in when back in
Dayle (12:59)
Yes. Yes.
yeah.
Hmm?
Jamie (13:14)
my teenage years and my my twenties when like Atkins no carb diets were all the rage. If you told me I could have no carbs, I would like, and I decided I was having like a cheat day. I would go to the grocery store and I'd buy like a loaf of bread and eat it start to finish. I would get like pastries. I don't even like pastries. I don't even like pastries, but it's like when I'm told I can't do something that I do it 14 times harder. So when I'm hard on myself about like,
Dayle (13:34)
Yeah, that's totally... yeah.
Yes. Yep.
Jamie (13:43)
you haven't exercised. Well, then I really plant my ass and I'm like, guess what I'm going to do? Not exercise 10 times harder. Like I'm going to do the exact opposite. So I'm like, if I just don't give it energy, if I just don't give it thought and I just live my life, I'm so much more at peace with it. And I'm sure I'll go through a cycle where I'm like, no, I'm really energized to get back into yoga and I'm really energized to do all these things. That's not where I'm at today in my life. And I'm not going to be harder myself for that. So.
Dayle (13:48)
What do we?
For sure. Well, and the thing is, that, so I did a macros like consultation with this great girl called Lori Lamenda, anybody that wants to get one of those, I highly recommend it. Super affordable, great tips, like just can't tell you enough good things. Follow her on Instagram at LB Lamenda. But one of the things like she, she told me lots of great stuff, but one of the things that was like a non, like she was just
saying her opinion, you know, like one of those, and I don't even know if she will remember saying this, but she said to me, sounds like you're really fretting about, because I put on like some weight when I had surgery in December and I wasn't moving around my, wasn't you, and like, instead of like do the things that I needed to do to just get rid of that weight, which I know how to do that, you know, in theory, I sat around and fretted about it and like the stress I caused and thinking thoughts like,
I'll probably never lose this weight. It's probably impossible for me to lose this weight now that I'm over 40. You know, and I just started like planting all these like negative seeds around that. And it felt like no matter how healthy I ate, no matter what I was doing, I was like not, I was working out every day. I wasn't seeing any results. And I was like, this is so weird. And she's like, I actually think you're like, like you're saying the wrong things to the universe and the universe is literally giving you back what you don't want, which like,
Jamie (15:13)
him.
Well,
and I fully believe that like my manifestation is so strong right now. It's so strong that I if I have even just the slightest negative thought I'm like, shoot, that's coming true because my manifestation is like wild on fire right now.
Dayle (15:42)
So strong, exactly.
Yeah.
On point. Yeah,
exactly. And so anyways, she was I was like, you're right. Like, I know how to get rid of 10 pounds. I don't know why I'm fretting about this. Eat nice food that you always like to eat. And it's like, actually what you eat, you know, but I was trying diets I didn't really like and eating weird like I just started being weird. I don't know how else to describe it. And like, from her perspective, she didn't say the universe as much as like
Jamie (16:03)
Yeah.
Dayle (16:20)
She said, you know, your body's like having a stress response where it's holding on to cortisol in your core. And like, that's why you're not seeing the results that you want is because your body's in a constant state of like stress. And I was like, you're right. I'm literally going to bed, like being like, what did I do today? What happened today? Not good enough, not good enough, not good enough. And like, that's just a dumb, I haven't thought about barely what I've eaten in 20 years. So I've been on autopilot of like eating healthy and
Jamie (16:46)
Totally.
Dayle (16:49)
sticking to a general healthy lifestyle that comes very natural to me. And so anyways, like I just like, I don't know, it was a weird but awesome like awakening that I'm like, I'm not going to be fixated on anything because literally you can be addicted to exercise. You can be addicted to counting calories and like ruin your life about it, you know? And like, I also want a regular life. I want a life where I can go to a restaurant and just make a good choice.
Jamie (17:12)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Dayle (17:19)
I don't want to be like, life's off. I'm not doing anything until I've lost the 10 pounds or I've lost, you know, I have to work out tonight. So I actually can't go out for my friend's birthday because I work out every night, you know, like that's not a good trade for me. So I want balance within reason, you know, and flexibility.
Jamie (17:30)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, and that's exactly what I like. That was what I was letting go is like being hard on myself for like not doing it and also allowing like progress over perfection. So like I do this thing in my mind where I'm like if I can't do it perfect, then I'm not going to do it at all. Like for instance about like on the health topic. Well, if I'm not going to like start doing yoga five days a week, then I'm not going to exercise at all and it's like.
Yeah, but it's spring and I absolutely love the spring flowers. Like it's what the landscaping where I live is one of the reasons I moved here. So my favorite thing to do is to walk around in the spring when everything's in bloom and like go on a neighborhood walk and be like, I love that bush. I wonder what kind it is. I love those hydrangeas. I wonder if I could plant those. Like it's my favorite thing to do, but I don't do it because I'm not committed to five days a week of yoga. It's like the wildest, weirdest justification.
Dayle (18:10)
Mm-hmm.
Totally.
Yeah.
Yeah, wouldn't you like unpack?
Totally. When you unpack your crazy thoughts, like you really are like, so because I ate unhealthy on Monday, a month from Monday, I'm going to still be off the wagon of eating my normal food because I made one mistake six Mondays ago.
Jamie (18:38)
quarterly.
Well, and
I fully feel like people do this in their business too, where they're like, if I can't give it five days a week, if I can't do eight posts a week, I'm just not gonna post at all. If I can't do it well, I'm not gonna do it at all. And so for me, I'm just like letting go of that perfectionism and welcoming in the acceptance of where I'm at. If I can only post three times a week, well, guess what?
Dayle (18:55)
Yes.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Well, and do you to know what I'm a big fan of?
Totally.
totally.
Jamie (19:20)
Only gonna post. If I can only get a little bit of my work done today, it's better than nothing. You know?
Dayle (19:20)
Exactly.
Well,
and you know what else? It's very like, I'm a big fan of in the entrepreneur world of a side hustle. Like, you the side hustle. You don't need to have all the hours and all the days to have the business you want. Start with a side hustle. And maybe, you know what? Let's make a podcast about this because it needs a whole bunch. Yeah, it needs a whole bunch of talking, but it's one of those things that I'm like, it doesn't have to be an all or nothing, just like you're saying with your diet.
Jamie (19:33)
Yeah.
Yeah, that's it. That's for another day. That'll be next week's.
Mm-hmm.
Dayle (19:55)
you know,
entrepreneurship can be like a one foot in the door, test the market, check into it. Boom.
Jamie (20:01)
Mm-hmm,
100%. Okay, well, I think we'll leave it at that. But I wanna hear what everybody is letting go of or allowing to stay in the winter and what are you welcoming into the spring because we are dying to hear all about it. Bye guys, till next week.
Dayle (20:18)
Have a great week.