Proof It's Possible X Keith & Glory - We're Not Sorry

Welcome back to Proof It's Possible! In this special crossover episode, we’re joined by the hilarious and heartfelt hosts Keith Madge and Glory Jewitt of We’re Not Sorry as they sit down with us for an unforgettable conversation rooted in deep friendship, shared stories, and the power of community. As the conversation unfolds, we explore everything from childhood memories to personal growth, and the strength found in authenticity and humor.

We dive into the energy of connection and resilience—how the bonds we build over time shape our identities and how telling our stories can heal not only ourselves but others walking similar paths. This episode is filled with laughter, nostalgia, and thoughtful reflections on what it means to grow through life’s messy, beautiful journey. Tune in to hear:

• Why friendship and shared history create space for vulnerability and humor.
• How personal storytelling empowers women to connect and grow.
• The realities of parenting, sibling dynamics, and evolving fashion choices.
• How emotional resilience and authenticity help navigate health, addiction, and career challenges.
• The importance of building intentional communities like the Ultimate Girls Trip retreat.

What stories from your life have shaped who you are today? Share your thoughts with us—we’d love to hear!  DM us on Instagram @dayle_sheehan_designs & @jamiedfrancis! See you next time!

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Transcript

Dayle (00:01)
Welcome back. And today we are doing the most fun thing. We have never really done this fully. We have a crossover episode with Keith and Glory from the We're Not Sorry podcast. So today we have Glory Do It and Keith Madge here, as well as Jamie and I. And so we are going to jump into all things pop culture.

Glory Jewitt (00:12)
We're not sorry.

Woo!

Keith Madge (00:16)
WHA-

Dayle (00:28)
fun entrepreneurship, what we're all working on, all the good things. So how are you guys?

Keith Madge (00:35)
Really good. So excited to do our first podcast collab. Is that what they call it? Yeah. Awesome. couldn't cross over. I like that better. And I couldn't be more excited to do it with, ⁓ you two who we've known for 20 years, I would think like early 2000s.

Glory Jewitt (00:35)
We're doing great.

Dayle (00:41)
Yeah, I think so.

Jamie (00:41)
Yeah, that's where you can move in crossover.

Glory Jewitt (00:42)
Yeah.

Has it been

20 years? My gosh. my god. It's been a long time. Yeah.

Dayle (00:58)
I know, we're old.

Jamie (00:59)
Yeah, I would say maybe even longer. Maybe even longer. Anyways,

Keith Madge (01:04)
Yeah!

Jamie (01:04)
it's so fun. Maybe we should tell everybody how we know each other.

Dayle (01:09)
Great.

Keith Madge (01:10)
I mean,

Jamie (01:10)
Where

Keith Madge (01:11)
I don't remember much from 20 years ago since someone else take this over. ⁓

Jamie (01:11)
do we even begin?

Dayle (01:13)
You guys want me?

Glory Jewitt (01:13)
Hahaha! ⁓

Dayle (01:16)
I remember like it was yesterday meeting Keith and we were at an aesthetic like wine and cheese night and of a friend and mutual friend and we went out to this thing and I'd never met Keith before and he basically like came up to me and I think you just came out of like getting a little you know Botox or some little fluff up and you were like I've never done this before it's so fun.

And so anyways, but then you said to me, no, you had done it before, but you were loving it. That's what it was. So you're getting your top up and you explained to me that you were a teacher. And I think I want to say you said you were teaching grade four. Like that's how much I remember. And you said to one of the kids, like, sit down and read your book. And the kid like just smiled at you. And you were like, what is this little brat?

Keith Madge (02:01)
no, no,

I was and I remember this kid Evan, but it was the first time I got Botox and I do silent reading after lunch to chill them out and stuff. And I'm trying to give this kid the look like the teacher look like because because it's quiet and everybody's reading, but I forgot my forehead didn't move. I'm looking at him like this, like, read your book, read you try to frown and he just looks at me like this.

Glory Jewitt (02:08)
Hahaha

Dayle (02:19)
Right.

Glory Jewitt (02:28)
They can't see you on radio,

he was waving.

Keith Madge (02:32)
And he just

Dayle (02:32)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (02:32)
waved

and I'm like, yeah, my face doesn't move. Avid, read your book.

Dayle (02:36)
You're

yeah, exactly.

Jamie (02:37)
you

Glory Jewitt (02:38)
I can we

talk about the first time Keith ever got that I was there to witness it and the amount of screams and cries and my God, my God, my God. Just go with it. It was, I mean, I wish I had that on video.

Keith Madge (02:47)
I'm the word.

Jamie (02:50)
Well, and like,

don't we all wish it was as potent as that first time? Where your full forehead was fully frozen? Like, I don't know the last one that happened to me.

Glory Jewitt (02:54)
Let me

Keith Madge (02:55)
Right?

And Jamie and Gloria are both in the health and safety. Is that how you met or through Ray?

Glory Jewitt (03:05)
I was gonna say, well, mm-hmm.

Dayle (03:05)
Right?

Jamie (03:07)
Yeah. No.

Glory Jewitt (03:10)
No, I think through our friend's sister, I want to say.

Jamie (03:12)
Yeah, I think it was through

Keith Madge (03:13)
Okay.

Jamie (03:14)
Maureen. It was just house parties. pretty confident.

Glory Jewitt (03:18)
I think so,

yeah, back in the day. And then we, I think we fell into safety maybe after, I think so. Yeah, we've never worked together. I think we reached out for like connections over the years, but you never came to work for me down south. What's going on?

Keith Madge (03:19)
Yeah.

Jamie (03:23)
Yeah, and like independently, like never worked in the same... Well, no.

Yeah.

Well, no,

I mean, if the opportunity is still available, I am itching.

Dayle (03:36)
Whoa, whoa,

Keith Madge (03:37)
Yeah.

Dayle (03:38)
okay. Turn the video off right now.

Glory Jewitt (03:38)
We'll talk after the show. ⁓

Keith Madge (03:40)
So my question that I always love

to ask sisters is which hadid would you be? Who's the Gigi? Who's the Bella? And if you don't kind of get that, like Gigi's kind of more of like the cutesy sweet one. Bella's got like a little more edge kind of. Now, originally when I met you, I would have pitted the two opposite as of now, like kind of reading your books and listening to your podcast over while.

It switched for me, but how do you feel?

Jamie (04:10)
Okay,

I would say Dale's certainly the sweeter of the two. Like she's the, she's the Bella for sure. Or Gigi, sorry. And I'm way more like matter of fact, Capricorn energy, you know, like, yeah.

Keith Madge (04:17)
RGG

Okay,

that's what I would have thought but now I kind of have it switched. Yeah.

Dayle (04:29)
Really?

Jamie (04:30)
Interesting.

Dayle (04:31)
You

know what the thing about me is I am very like, I'm a Scorpio. So I'm super nice until you like push me to my limit and then there's no coming back. it takes me like, you pretty much have to do something like absolutely terrible. I have almost no enemies because I'm like, whatever. Okay, fine. You know, like no big deal. You're an idiot, whatever. But it's just like more internal. ⁓

Glory Jewitt (04:39)
So make you mad. Yeah.

Keith Madge (04:42)
Yeah.

Yeah

Yep.

Dayle (04:56)
And so I can like keep my cool way better than Jamie can. And like also, Jamie has three wild children and has a whole life where she's like, you know, run ragged daily. So like I get more sleep. It's easy to be nice when you nobody

Keith Madge (05:01)
OK.

Yeah.

Okay, I'll have to remember that. Good advice.

What's my chief?

Jamie (05:13)
It's easy to... here's some business advice.

It's easy to be nice when you're well rested.

Dayle (05:18)
Exactly.

Keith Madge (05:19)
Well, it's funny. Look at you both in health and safety, three kids each. You guys have a lot in common.

Jamie (05:25)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (05:25)
Yeah,

and I'm unrugged. So I get you, Jamie. I feel you. Yeah.

Jamie (05:28)
Yeah, not for you.

Dayle (05:28)
Yeah, honestly.

Keith Madge (05:30)
Well, you guys look great.

Jamie (05:31)
Thanks.

Glory Jewitt (05:31)
⁓

Thanks.

Keith Madge (05:34)
So why don't we start with a little most likely game? Who are you? Got some questions.

Dayle (05:37)
Okay, that's fun.

Jamie (05:38)
Okay.

Glory Jewitt (05:40)
I do. I will pull them up right now. So this game, feel like we just, and we can, I think we do it around. We'll do Jamie and Dale first, and then Keith, maybe you and I go. This is most likely. So who is most likely to do an Irish exit?

Jamie (05:50)
Okay.

What is that?

Dayle (05:58)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (05:58)
An Irish, do you know what an Irish exit for those listening is when you sort of duck out of a party. Like you don't say goodbye. You're like, hey, it's nine o'clock. I'm out. I've got to go home. And you like just kind of disappear.

Keith Madge (06:04)
You don't survive.

Jamie (06:10)
Hmm.

Keith Madge (06:10)
Cause saying

bye like...

Dayle (06:12)
I feel like...

Glory Jewitt (06:12)
You know,

you got to, yeah.

Dayle (06:15)
would say me but I actually think it's Jamie. ⁓ Because she's just once the kids are loaded or once they're like, she's done for the night, she's out of there. But I'm the kind of person that ⁓ would feel bad. Like I would feel the guilt of like, I didn't even say thank you. I didn't, you know, like I should have said hello to everybody before I left and just kind of left. And like my husband would be the first person to be like, he like, as he's pushing me because for the people that can't see me, I'm in a wheelchair but

Jamie (06:18)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (06:31)
saying bye. Yeah. ⁓

Keith Madge (06:32)
⁓ that's sweet.

Dayle (06:44)
I'm also, he'll be pushing me and he like almost like hits the back of my shoulder, like not hits it, but like hits it with his finger and that's his like indicator, like stop talking, we're leaving, it's over.

Glory Jewitt (06:53)
Let's go. Yeah.

Keith Madge (06:54)
I was

Jamie (06:57)
But like, had you asked me in my 20s, I was not the girl leaving unannounced. I was the girl staying till the party was fully, fully over. Fully over.

Dayle (07:02)
No.

Keith Madge (07:05)
That's what I was say. Unfortunately,

Glory Jewitt (07:06)
right.

Dayle (07:07)
Jodl.

Keith Madge (07:08)
Gloria and I too, probably should. Irish Exit, a couple hours early, but we created a bitter end.

Jamie (07:11)
Yeah

Dayle (07:12)
Yeah, I can.

Glory Jewitt (07:13)
was gonna say, don't think either of us

would. I think we're both there till the end.

Dayle (07:17)
Yeah,

out of you two who would do it?

Keith Madge (07:18)
You're gonna kick me out.

Glory Jewitt (07:21)
get that though, Dale. I'm kind of the same. Like I can't leave without saying goodbye or like thanking the host. I'm kind of that person. But yeah, I don't know, Keith, who do you think out of us?

Dayle (07:27)
Yeah, exactly.

Keith Madge (07:29)
Well, I'm not talking

a dinner party. I'm talking like a big group setting, you know.

Dayle (07:33)
You eat the appetizer, you're like, that's shit, I'm outta here. I'm gonna pretend I'm going to the bathroom

Glory Jewitt (07:36)
I'm

Dayle (07:38)
when I'm leaving. It's a four person dinner.

Glory Jewitt (07:39)
Okay, who's us?

Who out of us? I've got a few to get through. Which is it you or me? Who's, well no, what do you think? Who's the most likely to do an Irish exit?

Dayle (07:44)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (07:52)
I think we, I, we, I, we answered. think both of us ate the bitter end until we're kicked out.

Glory Jewitt (07:54)
⁓ was both of us? Okay.

Jamie (07:57)
Neither. Irrelevant

Dayle (07:59)
It's a no from you.

Jamie (07:59)
question for the two of you.

Glory Jewitt (08:01)
Next. Okay. Who is the most likely to start with mimosas?

Jamie (08:07)
neither of us.

Dayle (08:07)
Yeah, I'm well, I don't eat. I do drink, but I don't like the taste of drink like a drink. So I only drink to actually get drunk. So I only do it every like five years. And I'm certainly not doing a breakfast. my God. If I'm if I'm doing that, I need to be like in Nashville. Exactly.

Glory Jewitt (08:08)
You guys welcome on default don't drink. Okay.

Keith Madge (08:22)
you

Glory Jewitt (08:22)
We were on the wrong podcast. ⁓

Keith Madge (08:26)
Okay, well,

I'm the same. don't. I don't. I just drink to get drunk, but not once every five years. Like probably once every two months or something, you know? Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (08:29)
Yeah, he is a drinker.

Dayle (08:34)
Yeah. ⁓

Jamie (08:34)
Ha! ⁓

Glory Jewitt (08:40)
Okay, wow.

Jamie (08:40)
have like the

occasional drink, but it would be like at dinner. I'm not a like early morning drinker. I would never have like a daytime drink ever.

Glory Jewitt (08:44)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (08:49)
And we had enough fun in our 20s.

Glory Jewitt (08:50)
Okay.

Jamie (08:52)
I've filled my boots for sure in my 20s.

Keith Madge (08:54)
Okay.

Glory Jewitt (08:56)
Okay, moving on. Well, for me, I enjoy a nice girl's brunch mimosa. I think it's probably me for sure. I'd say out of both Keith and I, but it's not like that every morning I wake up and have a mimosa.

Dayle (08:56)
What about you guys?

Keith Madge (09:04)
Yeah.

Dayle (09:06)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (09:06)
No,

but I mean vacation. It's vacation when I'm there.

Dayle (09:07)
Yeah. For sure.

Jamie (09:10)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (09:10)
Right.

Okay, how about who's the most likely to plan everything? I think just knowing this five minute conversation, I think I know the answer, but go ahead.

Jamie (09:19)
I would say both of us are pretty intense planners, when it comes to like podcast and stuff, that's a hundred percent Dale. But when it comes to like Christmas stuff, it's me. Like we each play a role in different parts of our life and she does a lot of the like technical stuff. I do more of the fun stuff. I plan the fun stuff. She plans the like technical boring stuff.

Glory Jewitt (09:23)
Really?

Keith Madge (09:23)
Okay.

Yeah.

Dayle (09:39)
Mm-hmm.

Like

even in our girls trips, I plan like all the like masterminding that we're doing or a lot of it. And I like make sure the paperwork's all organized. Cause I'm like a good organizer and I have a lot. Yeah. ⁓

Jamie (09:58)
She like orders, you know, the swag bags and does all that kind of stuff.

Glory Jewitt (10:01)
Yeah.

Jamie (10:02)
And I'm like, I swoop in and I'm like, these are the games we're going to play. And this is the food we're going to eat because I like that. And that's what I want to have. Like we each have our role and it's very distinct. And we, don't ever talk about who's planning what, but we just, we just do it. We just know.

Glory Jewitt (10:06)
Right.

Keith Madge (10:06)
Okay.

Dayle (10:16)
No.

Keith Madge (10:18)
And

for our listeners that might not know about the Ultimate Girls Trip, we'll get into it a little bit more later. I know Glory wants to, but do you want to just give just kind of a brief little summary of it?

Dayle (10:30)
Sure. So the ultimate girls' is so fun. It is something that Jamie and I came up with after we started our podcast that we had started to build this community of women writing us every week and listening to our podcast and joining us on social media. And so we were like, how can we take the like amazingness of this and put it in the real world? And so our podcast focuses on female entrepreneurs. And so basically what it is, is it is a three day retreat.

So far they've all been in Scottsdale, Arizona, but we are open to like doing new locations in the future. So yeah, that'd be fun. ⁓ So lots of ideas there. And we basically do mastermind activities. have so much fun. Like Jamie said, we play games, we do all this stuff, but it's a chance to meet other women who are also wanting to like dream big, go after their dreams, you know, do the big things, like do the stuff that nobody in their worlds are.

Glory Jewitt (11:05)
Atlanta should be in your feed for. ⁓

Jamie (11:08)
So fun.

Dayle (11:28)
are doing. So you get you find yourself the right community of ladies and there you have a much better chance of actually completing those things.

Keith Madge (11:30)
Mm-hmm.

Glory Jewitt (11:36)
I love that. And how do people sign up, Dale and Jamie, while we're on the topic?

Dayle (11:39)
So we

have a wait list. We only do a couple a year and our actually our next one is very soon. So if you go to proveitspossible.com, you'll see all the information there. And yeah, so.

Glory Jewitt (11:54)
Okay.

Keith Madge (11:54)
And

have you ever thought about opening it up to like the ultimate girls, gays, these and anybody that slays Trap?

Jamie (12:01)
you

Glory Jewitt (12:02)
Hahaha

⁓

Dayle (12:03)
We

haven't but I love it. So that is very much Exactly

Jamie (12:05)
And thank you for the name. We were... Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (12:06)
I think he just coined the name. I think he just coined the name.

Keith Madge (12:09)
the girls?

Theys and anybody that slays. Yeah. Well, I'll hopefully be invited on that trip.

Jamie (12:12)
I like it a lot.

Glory Jewitt (12:12)
Okay.

Dayle (12:12)
We'll send you royalties.

Glory Jewitt (12:15)
haha

Dayle (12:17)
Well,

exactly.

Glory Jewitt (12:18)
Like

I've told you both, I'm absolutely going to attend one. It's right up my alley, right on brand for me. And I definitely, definitely will make it a point once I can make it work for my schedule to attend for sure, once I can get on the wait list. OK, let's do a couple more. And then I think we get into the stories because I know we have a limited time. Keith, you want to do a couple more? then let's, yeah.

Jamie (12:31)
100%. We would love to have you.

Dayle (12:31)
Amazing.

Keith Madge (12:37)
Yeah. Sure.

The first one is, who would be the one that would tell on each other as kids?

Dayle (12:45)
Dale, Dale, Dale, Dale. Yes, absolutely me.

Keith Madge (12:48)
Day all.

Jamie (12:50)
I kept all of

her secrets, because I'm not an asshole.

Dayle (12:53)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (12:56)
Really?

Now is it still the same? I mean, what would you tell on her for? But like, you know.

Dayle (13:04)
tell on her we Jamie and I decided when we were like 11 12 somewhere in there that we were a team and we were against our parents and like we love our parents were very close to them but we just started acting like as best friends instead of siblings at really quite young because usually you can keep fighting later into your like teen years and stuff as sisters and so we stopped telling on each other but now Jamie's got an 11 year old and she's got like a cell phone and she's wanting independence and so

Jamie (13:20)
Mm-hmm.

Dayle (13:33)
I'm the one that's like, I put tracking software on the cell phone and Jamie's like, she's fine. I trust her. She's a good girl. She listens, whatever. I'm like, yeah, but we don't know where she is. We don't know what she's looking up online. So now I like, I know if she's looking at a special, like a particular thing on Lululemon because it, my phone like alerts me that she's done a Google search and I, yeah. yeah. I'm like,

Keith Madge (13:46)
Yeah.

really you have not what a good

Glory Jewitt (13:56)
I need that in my life. I'm so bad at that.

Jamie (13:57)
⁓ She's a helicopter auntie and she says, like,

I have to lie to her and be like, like lie to her about, ⁓ she took the bus to her friend's house after school, stuff that I'm like, I shouldn't have to, you're not her mom, I shouldn't have to lie to you, I shouldn't be her momless, but.

Dayle (14:13)
Well, and I'm like, I'm like, why

are we just asking to get the children kidnapped? Like what is happening here? We don't put them on the city bus. That is absolutely crazy. And Jamie's like, all her friends are doing it. That's how they get home from school. I'm like, my God, this is unfair.

Jamie (14:29)
I'll just,

I will just say in the city we live in, the city bus is the school bus. So how they get home.

Dayle (14:33)
Yes, exactly. So.

Keith Madge (14:34)
Okay, I'm so

excited. We didn't have tracking devices when I was a kid, because I wasn't the best kid. And speaking of telling on sisters, I have an older sister who's now my best friend, of course. But on my on our podcast every week, Keith and Glory, we're not sorry. I read my grade five diary from 1988. And

Dayle (14:39)
or social media.

Glory Jewitt (14:40)
name.

Jamie (14:56)
Yes, this is the highway

I can't

Keith Madge (14:58)
I thought

because I was looking for a good sister one because our sister kind of themed episode. So this was on July 3rd, 1988. Um, I have tagged my diary as Bob and

Dayle (15:02)
I love it.

Glory Jewitt (15:13)
He named

his diary as Bob, this one. And actually his next one is called Slade. So he names them all.

Keith Madge (15:19)
And

I signed my sign off because we're moving into the summer here is Milano because I have, I played it previous. Everybody go listen to our episodes, but I, that I named myself, I needed a code name. So I named myself after teenage sex symbol, Alyssa Milano. So when I say love Milano at the end, so July 3rd, 1988.

Jamie (15:41)
Makes perfect sense.

Glory Jewitt (15:41)
You

Dayle (15:41)
Obviously.

Glory Jewitt (15:46)
You know why.

Keith Madge (15:48)
Dear Bob, I'm so mad. I was trying to listen to my new favorite song, Naughty Girls Need Love Too by Samantha Fox. For one, I'm in grade five. Naughty Girls Need Love Too? Does anybody know that song? Do you guys know Samantha Fox? ⁓ okay, I'm really old. Anyway, listen to it tonight.

Jamie (15:59)
you

Glory Jewitt (16:00)
don't even know what that song is. I'm have listen to it up. No, can you sing a rep? No.

Jamie (16:07)
No.

Dayle (16:10)
No.

Glory Jewitt (16:10)
No.

Keith Madge (16:17)
My sister's music was blaring, so I told and she called me name. So I told again and she lied to my parents. So here I am on a 90 degree Fahrenheit day in my room. I hate my sister and my mom. They're always on each other's sides. I hate them so much. Right now my sister came in here and yelled at me. What a blank love. ⁓

Dayle (16:38)
You

Glory Jewitt (16:42)
What did you really want to say in the blank?

Dayle (16:45)
I love it. ⁓ my god,

I love it.

Keith Madge (16:47)
The sibling fights are the worst, right? Like they...

Jamie (16:50)
You know what I really

Glory Jewitt (16:50)
they are.

Jamie (16:51)
particularly loved about it the most is that you told on her once, your mom was like, I don't care. And then you told on her a second time thinking like, this will solve it. This should do it. And then not that her music was too loud, but the fact that you were trapped in your room on a 90 degree day, like the unnecessary details of the diary entry.

Glory Jewitt (16:59)
Bye.

Keith Madge (17:00)
Yeah. And it all.

I got in trouble. Okay,

you're picking up the vibe, JB. I love it.

Jamie (17:13)
Yeah,

I love it. Okay.

Glory Jewitt (17:14)
How long

did you like sign off as Milano after that one section like for the rest of the every single year ⁓

Keith Madge (17:19)
I the rest of the year.

I'm committed.

Dayle (17:25)
sound that you didn't choose slayed? Like in one of your past episodes, had slayed as like, yeah. Right.

Glory Jewitt (17:25)
That's next. That's his great seventh journal. Yeah.

Keith Madge (17:31)
my grade seven journal, which is like

very rebellious.

Dayle (17:35)
Yes.

Glory Jewitt (17:35)
Ladies, we have

so much content here. We can go on for a few years. He's got books upon books. Yeah.

Keith Madge (17:39)
I knew I thought

of doing like a little stand-up act with my journals and stuff. yeah. good.

Dayle (17:45)
You should. my god. I have a quick question for you guys. I have a couple actually, that

Jamie (17:46)
You should.

Glory Jewitt (17:50)
Okay.

Dayle (17:50)
I would love to quickly ask. Okay, the one thing when you're friends with somebody for like a really long time, and like Jamie and I laugh about this all the time. What is the one or multiple fashion choices that you allowed each other to make that you should have stopped in the moment or like been more honest about and you just kind of like let the person do it with gritted teeth?

Glory Jewitt (18:14)
is Keith start?

Keith Madge (18:16)
Yeah, she's

the real risk taker, shall we say, when it comes to fashion. It always has been. One thing that I let her do, but I did point out when we were ⁓ younger, she really loved makeup, worked at makeup stores and everything. And she put so much makeup on. From far away, I thought she was our Asian friend. Like she made herself look Asian with this makeup somehow.

Jamie (18:17)
you

Dayle (18:22)
Right?

Glory Jewitt (18:46)
He bugged me to this day in my wedding speech. He had to bring it up. mean, that's, I think he won't let it die. But that's not really a fashion choice. I think all my outfits, the ones that I really kind of pushed for, by the end of the night, we have a code name or a joke about it. Like, I don't know if they're always.

Dayle (18:53)
I love it.

Keith Madge (19:03)
Well, you love a

big brimmed hat that I don't understand, but like, yeah. And also let me say that long, the long corduroy inspector gadget coat.

Glory Jewitt (19:06)
love a big brim. To this day I still do.

Dayle (19:10)
So this is my time of telling you.

Glory Jewitt (19:16)
⁓ and I wish

I still had it because I would wear it come it came back in style. You know what that was that was a we used to call it inspector jacket. Okay, well, I think all your teacher sweaters. I was like you don't have to dress like a teacher because you're going to school.

Keith Madge (19:19)
You

Dayle (19:21)
It did?

Keith Madge (19:23)
And what was mine for you, would you say?

I, true. I call it a partigan because it's like party in a cardigan. But I do have a lot of cardigans. They're perfect for like, you you're getting ready for work and you put on a button up shirt and you're like, a little tight. Let me throw a cardigan.

Jamie (19:31)
You rocked a good cardigan or what? You thought you'd play the part?

Glory Jewitt (19:35)
Mm.

It's a cardigan. It's not a party in any sense of those strats.

But in Keith's closet,

Dayle (19:52)
Get those love handles covered up.

Glory Jewitt (19:54)
he's got like going out clothes and then he's got his teacher wardrobe. I mean, I think I let you get away with a few meh meh fashion choices for school.

Keith Madge (20:04)
Okay, well, also I live in Canada so we wear sweaters. And I love a good sweater.

Jamie (20:07)
You

Dayle (20:07)
Yeah,

exactly.

Well, you have to in this place. It's freezing.

Jamie (20:10)
So do I. So

do I.

Keith Madge (20:12)
Like

as soon as it starts to turn fall, know all you girls are like, ooh, sweaters and boots. Like, no? Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (20:17)
I do love fall dressing for fall.

Dayle (20:18)
that?

For sure. Okay, if you guys were like a pop duo. Oh, oh, right, right.

Jamie (20:23)
wait, wait, I thought we were going to answer. I was about to outweigh

Keith Madge (20:24)
Hmm

Jamie (20:25)
on some of your questionable fashion choices.

Glory Jewitt (20:26)
Go, go, go, go.

Dayle (20:27)
Fine. Yeah. He was like,

Keith Madge (20:27)
Back to ⁓

Dayle (20:30)
I'm talking now. I want to talk about myself. Yeah.

Jamie (20:33)
Dale went through way too long

of a phase where she only wore no fear t-shirts. Like oversized no fear t-shirts. And another thing that she did...

Glory Jewitt (20:39)
Ooh, okay, do remember those.

Dayle (20:40)
Do you remember those?

Keith Madge (20:40)
⁓ yeah.

Dayle (20:44)
So weird.

Glory Jewitt (20:45)
Remember the hyper color

shirts? Not just sorry, David, don't remember those ones that like changed color thinking back on them? And like your armpits would be like a different color.

Dayle (20:48)
Yes!

Keith Madge (20:49)
Yeah.

Jamie (20:51)
Yes.

Dayle (20:51)
Yeah, like, so you'd get hot and it would be like just under the pits and they're bright purple.

Keith Madge (20:54)
Yeah.

Your back sweat.

Dayle (20:58)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (20:59)
Right? What were we thinking? Anyways, sorry to interrupt.

Jamie (21:02)
Dale also ⁓ insisted on keeping her hair like in this ultra, ultra, ultra short bob, like just meeting her earlobes.

Dayle (21:08)
You

Keith Madge (21:10)
⁓ mom tried.

Dayle (21:10)
guys might have known me then. they might've been in those times.

Jamie (21:13)
No, you were, were, you didn't do that into

college, did you? I didn't allow it for that long, did I?

Dayle (21:18)
Yeah, yeah. No, no, for sure.

Keith Madge (21:19)
You had a mom cut.

You had a Karen cut in high school, just a little bob. ⁓

Glory Jewitt (21:23)
Hahaha

Dayle (21:24)
No, no words. I permed it. I used the permit. So like I got cool by straightening it. So

Jamie (21:25)
you

Glory Jewitt (21:28)
Oh, it's more infirmed! Love it.

Keith Madge (21:31)
So all

editors insert picture now.

Jamie (21:34)
Good!

Dayle (21:34)
Exactly.

Well, if you want to talk about haircuts, our mom was very like, what do want to wear? What would you like to, how would you like to express yourself? So she let Jamie, well, yes, I was getting perm at three, self-appointed, and you, Jamie's like said at one point, she goes, I want to get a buzz cut.

Jamie (21:37)
Yeah.

No, no, that's not true. That's no, that's a-

That's my yeah, likely story. I said I want to

buzz my head and then what's left? just love to throw a perm in that bad boy. No, I didn't say that. I was fine. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

Dayle (22:05)
No, when it grew out to mushroom cut levels, that's when you inserted the perm just

to like jazz it up a little.

Keith Madge (22:13)
Okay

Jamie (22:14)
The audience, our mom is a tomboy who likes like a wash and wear style. It wasn't me that chose it, it was her.

Glory Jewitt (22:14)
I had a perm back in the day too.

Dayle (22:17)
Yes. Yes.

This is obviously childhood trauma. Jamie gets very mad.

Keith Madge (22:25)
pictured

your mom is like fancier because you kind of described her in one episode when you're you're worried about her mental health because her pajamas were mismatched. So I think you picture the fancy lady like in matching pajamas all the time.

Jamie (22:34)
Bye.

Dayle (22:34)
Well, yeah, I mean, she's got fancy

elements.

And she's always wearing like an adorable outfit, but it's in her own kind of style. gee, yeah, she has like a tomboy way of dressing.

Jamie (22:44)
way. She's got like,

since she was like in high school, she's had like a Kris Jenner kind of haircut. She's always had like a short, stylish, styled haircut, because she doesn't like like long hair and you know, for herself. But she does like a matching outfit. We all appreciate a matching outfit in this family.

Keith Madge (22:52)
Okay.

Yep. Or for her daughters apparently. Okay, I would do

Glory Jewitt (22:59)
maintenance. ⁓

Keith Madge (23:06)
that then.

Dayle (23:06)
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, mostly our problems were hair. I mean, God, I mean.

Jamie (23:11)
I thought you were going to

call me out on my sideways belt phase.

Dayle (23:15)
Well yeah, I mean...

Glory Jewitt (23:15)
Oh, what's the sideways

Keith Madge (23:15)
What's a

sideways bell?

Glory Jewitt (23:16)
belt like on the hip?

Jamie (23:17)
Like

where instead of doing your belt up in the front, you put the buckle off to the side like Avril Lavigne style.

Dayle (23:22)
You'd wear the short green skirt. Yeah, Avril

Glory Jewitt (23:24)
I miss

Keith Madge (23:24)
That doesn't

Glory Jewitt (23:24)
that friend.

Keith Madge (23:24)
sound very comfortable. Okay, noted.

Dayle (23:24)
Lavigne. It's stupid. It's totally stupid.

Jamie (23:26)
No, but you look cool.

With your low rise jeans, you look super cool with your belt off to the side.

Keith Madge (23:33)
⁓

Dayle (23:33)
Go.

Keith Madge (23:36)
Those low rise jeans, like I look at pictures now of people like Paris Hilton, obviously the icon of that and like God, those were really low, but a way better style than the mom jeans that the kids were into for a while.

Jamie (23:46)
Roe Vee Vah.

Glory Jewitt (23:49)
I like a high waisted, don't get me started. ⁓

Jamie (23:51)
Me too. ⁓

so this is our like hour where we're talking about current fashion trans issues which you stop, we would stop doing or what? You're calling us out for our mom jeans?

Dayle (24:00)
Yeah, exactly. He's like, I've been meaning to talk

to all of you about a couple of things I've seen on Instagram.

Keith Madge (24:06)
Yes.

Glory Jewitt (24:08)
Okay, what else you got for us? Any other questions?

Dayle (24:10)
what was,

Jay, do you want to ask one or do want me to ask one?

Jamie (24:13)
⁓ I'll ask one next. You go first.

Dayle (24:15)
Okay.

who was more dramatic growing up? And which of you had like main character energy and which of you was kind of like the background character?

Glory Jewitt (24:32)
Good question, Keith. I'll let you go first.

Keith Madge (24:34)
I don't

know. I wouldn't say either of us were backgrounds. Unfortunately, we were probably competing for main characters, screaming over top of each other. ⁓ What was the other question?

Dayle (24:39)
I agree with that. I can't imagine.

Glory Jewitt (24:41)
We're both

loud and obnoxious.

Dayle (24:48)
Who was ⁓ more dramatic?

Keith Madge (24:52)
And I mean, I think we're both... great!

Glory Jewitt (24:53)
He's my

gay best friend. mean, you are dramatic about everything. The bugs, the botox, any, like anything you're screaming about. You're dramatic. Yeah.

Keith Madge (25:01)
I guess so.

Yes. Okay. Okay.

Jamie (25:07)
You

Keith Madge (25:07)
Dramatic

in that way. Yes.

Dayle (25:09)
Right.

Jamie (25:10)
just

straight up admitting defeat.

Keith Madge (25:12)
Yes, that can be dramatic most of the time.

Glory Jewitt (25:12)
Yeah.

Jamie (25:16)
Who

is most likely to show up late?

Keith Madge (25:19)
No, glory. Who would last to come on the podcast? I was like sitting by myself for a while on the riverside and it feels like home. I say many times the podcast should be called Waiting for Glory.

Glory Jewitt (25:22)
For sure me.

Dayle (25:24)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (25:29)
That's a minute late.

I'll be like, be on in 10 and then it'll be an hour later. Anyway.

Jamie (25:36)
⁓

Who's most

likely to send a voice note over a text message?

Glory Jewitt (25:43)
Neither,

Keith Madge (25:43)
I'm not a voice note. None of

Dayle (25:44)
neither. I

Jamie (25:45)
Neither.

Keith Madge (25:46)
you guys are. Yeah. I think is that a younger generation thing? Yeah, because, um, no, I don't, I've maybe sent one if I needed to say something like funny or like sing, you'll be like, no, I'm not a voice.

Dayle (25:47)
know.

Jamie (25:50)
No, it must be.

Dayle (25:50)
must be.

I'm

Right.

Jamie (26:04)
Okay.

Glory Jewitt (26:05)
How about you? Okay, you guys are not.

Jamie (26:06)
Who's most likely to cry? Like who's more like emotional and like cries at commercials or is the first one to like...

Keith Madge (26:14)
I don't cry at like commercials, but maybe like dog stuff, ⁓ like dog reunions or like stuff like that.

Glory Jewitt (26:23)
you

Jamie (26:28)
Okay.

Glory Jewitt (26:29)
don't know if either one of us are big criers. Would you say? No, I don't think so. We're always laughing. I'm in a place for a good cry.

Keith Madge (26:31)
No!

Yeah, we cry laughing.

Dayle (26:34)
Thank you.

Jamie (26:37)
Okay.

Dayle (26:38)
Who would you say out of you and I?

Glory Jewitt (26:40)
Yeah.

Jamie (26:40)
is most likely to cry, I would say you're more emotional for sure.

Keith Madge (26:46)
wait, who's more dramatic?

Dayle (26:46)
Really?

Jamie (26:48)
I'm more dramatic for sure,

Dayle (26:49)
Hmm, hmm.

Keith Madge (26:50)
Okay.

Jamie (26:50)
for sure, but my drama is often, like my first reaction is anger, not sadness. I'm a psycho, essentially.

Dayle (26:57)
Right.

But do think you cry. Like, I don't, I think you cry more than I do. I really do. Anyways, bye.

Jamie (27:06)
Anyways. ⁓

Glory Jewitt (27:09)
Depends

how much rest we have, right, Jamie? If I'm exhausted and things are going wrong. OK, I feel like we should get into the more serious part of the conversation, if you guys are good with that, because I know we're running out of time. ⁓ Yeah, I feel like we should talk about both of you. I would love to talk about your books. It's super inspirational. I've read both of your books, by the way. I love it. Two very, very different stories. And I don't know if you guys want to give the

Dayle (27:12)
Exactly. Totally.

Jamie (27:12)
Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely.

Dayle (27:22)
Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jamie (27:22)
Like, no,

let's do it.

Thank you, we appreciate that.

Dayle (27:33)
Thank you.

Yes.

Glory Jewitt (27:39)
highlight of what they are and just the name of your books and I like give a little shout out. I mean it's both of them were very very interesting. I think because also I know you both so I even found it even that much more interesting but they're both really well written and well done. Who wants to go first? Yeah.

Jamie (27:51)
Thank you. I can go first.

Keith Madge (27:54)
great part.

Jamie (27:56)
So my book is called Looking for Proof, Memoir of an Addict's Wife. So my husband is an alcoholic who is in recovery. And I wrote the book because I was like, when I was like in the throes of his addiction, I was like sitting alone by myself being like, God, like I can't even tell anybody what I'm going through because I was trying to keep

it all together. And I was like, I would scour the internet and be like, what do you do when you think your husband's drinking? What do you do when you smell booze on his breath? What do you do when he's supposed to be sober, but he's not like all of these questions and the internet's like not super helpful. And there was no like AI or anything back then. So it was a lot of like, ⁓ you know, like the odd blog post would have something, but it was very little resources. It was like, you know, go, go to your

Glory Jewitt (28:19)
keep it all together. I get it.

Jamie (28:48)
closest AA meeting. Well, I was nowhere near the stage of like walking into an AA meeting. was like keeping my little secret, my little secret. So I just wanted in, you know, those moments of like despair when I was alone and feeling hopeless, like somebody to reach out and like give me something, any like sliver of hope to be like, I've been through it and it was totally, you know, it ended up being fine or this is what I did. Here's my 10 step guide. Like I was looking for anything on the internet and I just felt like there was really nothing.

And so I was like, as soon as I get through this, whatever that looks like, I am going to throw down a ladder because I feel like that wasn't available to me. And so I wrote my book and it was like therapeutic and I had been far enough removed from the hurt feelings and the despair that I felt like I was in a place where I could write about it and tell my story honestly, because I wasn't guarded and I wasn't in pain or anything like that. My life had come.

through it and I was on the other side of it and I was like really happy when I wrote my book. And I still am like not like the full swap and then my whole life flew off or anything like that. But ⁓ I just felt like, you know, I was finally at a place where I could talk about it really honestly without having to like shelter bits and pieces of my story. And I also know that my book isn't something you like willingly bring on the train to work. Like I, you read my book in the

Dayle (29:56)
You're like, and.

Keith Madge (29:56)
right now.

Jamie (30:16)
in the dark. Like most people are reading my book, unless you're nosy, which I totally understand too. ⁓ But most people are reading it because they're in like a really dark place. So they're the person who was me at 2 a.m. when their husband hasn't come home, scouring the internet, for some sliver of hope. And so I knew that my book wasn't going to be this book where it's like everybody's bragging that they just ordered it and they're, you know, talking about it unless they're friends or family.

I knew that people were gonna be buying it, of stuffing it in their bag, shoving it down their purse, hiding the receipt from their loved ones, things like that. But I knew that in their darkest moments that I would be providing them some kind of like light. And so that was the whole like motivation on why I wrote my book. ⁓ And really there wasn't much more to it than that. And I...

At the same time that I decided I was going to write a book, my sister also decided that she was going to write a book and we kind of made the decision together. I had gone to like a woman or not a woman, a male and female mastermind group and I came home and was like dead set on writing a book. I was like, I'm just going to do it. My sister's like, well, I'm going to do it too then. And so that's what we decided because for years we had talked about wanting to write a book and then never seriously pursued it. So that was the time and then we just got after it.

Dale, do you want to talk about your No, sure. Yeah.

Dayle (31:35)
Mm-hmm.

Glory Jewitt (31:36)
I just want to, before we get on to Dale, I just want to say

I was also married to an alcoholic. ⁓ And so I reading your book, ⁓ I really want to like just commend you on your vulnerability of putting it all out there because it's not easy. And I've been in that space where you just want to keep the lid on of this little home of perfection and you want to save it for the kids. You want to do everything you can. went to the, ended up going to the AA meetings with him and that.

Jamie (31:57)
Yeah.

Dayle (31:57)
Mm-hmm.

Jamie (32:00)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (32:04)
You know, I walked into the Al-Anon and burst into tears and walked out. So a lot of it really resonated with me. so I think kudos to you for writing it. And I hope it does. I'm sure it's helped a lot of women. So congratulations.

Jamie (32:17)
Thank you, I appreciate that.

Keith Madge (32:18)
And I have

two quick questions. One, how many years sober now is can we say razor or your husband?

Jamie (32:20)
Yeah.

⁓

I, in July it will be eight years. Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (32:28)
Do we still call them razor? ⁓

Keith Madge (32:30)
eight years. And how

did he feel about the story being out there?

Jamie (32:35)
Everybody is so curious about this. He is pretty much an open book. He said if this is going to help even one person, then it's worth it. So just go ahead and tell your story from your perspective. I was very mindful in writing it that I didn't put thoughts, words, and feelings into him and the role he played into it. It was all about me and how I felt in those moments. ⁓

Keith Madge (32:37)
Mm-hmm.

Jamie (33:02)
So I never said like, I suspect his drinking stemmed from blah, blah, blah. I never say that in my book. I only talk about my perspective of things and he has never read the book. And I've asked him a lot of times, like, do you think you'll ever read it? And he's like, no, it's your book and I'm at peace with whatever it says is exactly what you felt in those moments. And I don't need to read it. So.

Glory Jewitt (33:15)
Really?

Keith Madge (33:26)
or probably want to go back there. do we even know if he can read? Just kidding. Just kidding, Ray.

Glory Jewitt (33:26)
That's interesting. Yeah.

Jamie (33:28)
Yeah.

Dayle (33:28)
Yeah.

Yes.

Glory Jewitt (33:31)
⁓

Dayle (33:35)
⁓

Glory Jewitt (33:36)
That was not cool. Okay, Dale, over to you.

Dayle (33:40)
So when Jamie came home from her mastermind, I will just say with Jamie's book that I actually think like she was saying, you know, people read it in the dark, but I do think Jamie's book is one of the most important books like in the market. Like I think that it helps more people than the average book. And it's such an interesting thing when you do talk about something that can be a controversial or can be too personal.

you know, people almost feel like the re like Keith does like reading the diary, you know, but getting all access to it. So I think it's like very amazing. Yes. Yeah.

Keith Madge (34:09)
Yeah, it was very vulnerable and honest and

Glory Jewitt (34:13)
Yeah,

I-

Keith Madge (34:14)
turned inspirational. I thought it was great.

Dayle (34:16)
for sure.

Glory Jewitt (34:17)
I don't think it's a dark

book, was going to say, Jamie. You think that, but I actually found it a very interesting read, regardless of my history. ⁓ yeah, I think it appeals to more people than you're probably giving yourself credit for.

Dayle (34:24)
Mm-hmm, which is great.

Yes.

Jamie (34:30)
Thank you.

Dayle (34:30)
So when Jamie got back from her mastermind, I was like, hey, if I don't do this now, I'm going to never do it and we need to hold each other accountable. So I just, and the thing is I'd had, I'd been making notes on my phone for 10 years about like chapter ideas and things I would include and whatever. So we ended up working actually with the same publishing company, Glory, that you work with. Yes. So my

Jamie (34:51)
But for everybody who doesn't know what your book's about, give us like the coolest notes.

Dayle (34:56)
I had no idea how to do it. So thank God we found like our book coach and he helped. But my book, I have been in a wheelchair since I was 16 and I'm in a wheelchair as a result of a surgery that went wrong. So mistakes within the surgery and things like that. So I walked in to the children's hospital and I never walked out. And so just the piecing your life back together parts that

Glory Jewitt (35:01)
Mm-hmm.

Dayle (35:20)
go on in the grief and the process that you have to go through. And I was 16. So like I had great parents, I had a great sister, but I didn't have. Yes. Well, yes and no. I was an asshole. And then you wake up mature because you all of a sudden have adult problems. You know, when I always, I, whenever I talk about health, I always say like, it feels like our lives have lots of problems until us or one of our loved ones has a health problem. And then you only actually have one problem.

Keith Madge (35:26)
Very mature 16 year old.

Jamie (35:29)
Bye bye.

Dayle (35:48)
And none of the other problems like scheduling and busy careers and whatever, they all just kind of go away and you're like, okay, well, this is my only problem and I have to focus on this. And that's exactly what I did. And I did it very intentionally. So my book talks about everything from, you know, me needing to like lose a whole bunch of weight because once I was in a wheelchair at 16, I didn't know how to eat properly. didn't know how with my new limited ability to burn those calories, I was still eating like a kid. So I put on weight and I did not want to stay there.

Glory Jewitt (35:54)
matter.

Dayle (36:17)
And it was like vanity reasons, cause I'm vain, but it was also because my mobility would have progressively gotten way worse had I not tackled that. And then the next thing I wanted to tackle was like, how am going to make money? Like, how do I make a career and make the life that I dream of if I'm like confined to a wheelchair, if I can't go get experience, you know, and I wanted to be an interior designer. So that's a very like unlikely hard to do job when you it's quite physical.

and you have to get into people's homes that have stairs. So it was just one of those like things that everybody around me was like, ⁓ we want that for you, but you can't. And so I just like slowly figured out like, no, I want to, and I'll work with people and I'll figure it out and I'll explain my limitations or they'll explain themselves and I'll make my own way. And so I had all of these things that I called, yeah, butts. They were like my limiting beliefs of them. And they all stemmed from my very good excuse that now I'm in a wheelchair, so I'm not capable of doing any of the things.

And truthfully, what I was scared of was the vulnerability it took to do those things and potentially fail. So I had all these yeah-butt stories and the yeah-butt stories were basically all my limiting beliefs. And once I kind of conquered one, then I was like, okay, I'm making a living for myself. Like, whoa, this is crazy. And then the next thing I was like, you know what? I'm gonna tackle my health. Let's deal with that. And then the next thing I decided, I was like, okay, I'm gonna start dating. And like dating, when you like,

Glory Jewitt (37:43)
How is that?

Dayle (37:44)
not really dated anybody because you're 16 when all

Glory Jewitt (37:45)
No. Right.

Dayle (37:47)
this happened right in the middle of when that starts. It was wild and crazy. Like it was very, people think I'm crazy, but I loved date. I thought it was like, I love socializing. I love meeting new people. So like I did some vetting like, and I heard Keith talk about this in another episode where you don't just go on the date. You like, you have the phone call you do. We didn't have FaceTime then, but like

Glory Jewitt (38:08)
Do the FaceTime. Yeah.

Dayle (38:10)
you did some of the pre stuff so that you weren't on a date with the crazy like I wasn't really ready to get my body found in the river because I couldn't defend myself and I felt like it was very dangerous for me to go on these blind dates completely blind. So but I would have an idea of who the guy was and he would know I'm in a wheelchair before we went on a date, you know, like so you wouldn't think he'd show up if it was a problem for him. And so the men that I met were like, pretty wonderful. And like, in some ways, they were not wonderful and they weren't the men I was supposed to marry.

Glory Jewitt (38:21)
Alright.

Dayle (38:39)
but Jamie's making mean faces, but they weren't like monsters or anything. So, you know, it was one of those things where it was the ultimate test of vulnerability, like going out on dates and getting rejected on the most personal level, which is love and who you are. And just as a core person, it's even harder than being rejected on like a career level or, you know, something that's like not as tied to like your heart. So I just write really openly about all of that.

Glory Jewitt (38:43)
Right.

Yeah.

Dayle (39:05)
every each guy that I had like serious relationships with and what went on and all the things so.

Glory Jewitt (39:12)
And you've met your prince charming. Oh, I was just going to say, yeah, because I see all your cute posts about marrying your best friend and all those things. So, you know, that's amazing.

Keith Madge (39:13)
And as a...

Dayle (39:15)
Yes.

Yes. Yeah, I love him so

Keith Madge (39:22)
Yeah.

Dayle (39:23)
much. He's so good and like

Keith Madge (39:23)
And actually, Dale, that was the last time I saw you. saw you at Globefish, Globefish, Chinook, and you were with him and I was with an ex of mine. So it wasn't many. I remember it now. But so as a very mature 16 year old making decisions, you kind of came to the title of your book, which I love.

Dayle (39:33)
⁓ I don't even remember that.

Yes. So mine was like my ultimate goal in my life is to be happy. I mean, I love money. I love travel. I love people. I love family. But really when I like settle into what I actually want, I want happiness. So what I never considered during all of the my Yabba negative statements was yeah, but what if you were happy? And so what I what I'm like challenge people to think about in my book while they're reading it is what if everything worked out the way you wanted it to and

We named our podcast, Proof It's Possible, because we feel like both Jamie and I have like overcome weird and totally different hard things, but we both proved that you can have a healthy, happy marriage after addiction. Not everybody can. It doesn't work out like that for everybody, but Jamie Ray both chose to do the work, you know, and I chose to do the internal work required to get the life I want and have the career I want and, you know, do all the things that I care about. So.

Keith Madge (40:43)
Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (40:44)
love that and I love the

Keith Madge (40:44)
And of course.

Glory Jewitt (40:45)
yeah but like I you know that's such a great little thing.

Dayle (40:47)
Yeah. Well, you catch yourself saying it. You're

like, yeah, I'd love to do that. Yeah, but I don't have time or yeah, but I can't, you know, and you'll catch yourself as you like, after you read my book, people are writing me. They're like, I said, yeah, but 20 times today. And I'm like, stop it. So Gloria, I want to hear what your book though. And what spark like, you know, all the things.

Glory Jewitt (40:59)
Great.

Keith Madge (41:00)
Yeah, but. ⁓

Glory Jewitt (41:06)
Yeah, okay, it's still in the

works. And we, you were, think you were saying we are all using the same book company, which is amazing. And you two recommended them to me and they've been nothing but fantastic so far. I'm in.

Dayle (41:17)
soon.

Jamie (41:17)
If any of the listeners

are curious, send us a DM and we'll happy to make an intro. We're happy to make an intro for you because he's amazing. Yeah.

Glory Jewitt (41:22)
Yes, yes, they've been nothing but fantastic. ⁓

Yeah, so ⁓ it's done. I'm in editing phase, so I'm halfway through. So my book is ⁓ totally different. It's a memoir. So it's about my rise from literally a scaffold laborer in Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada, to a global vice president at one of the most famous companies in the world.

⁓ and became, know, so it's the story of coming out from a field, a female in a very male dominated sector, becoming vice president at 35. It's my career journey. So it gives listeners and it's a bit of, it's personal. talk a bit about relationships. I talk about my divorce. talk about, so it's kind of, and in each chapter I give a few kind of like key takeaways for women to sort of.

Dayle (42:02)
Mm-hmm.

Glory Jewitt (42:08)
My avatar is women who are sort of stuck in their careers or mid-range or single moms or working moms or women who are just trying to make it to the next level. And so I give some kind of anecdotes and tips and tricks to try and progress your career in a powerful, meaningful way. The brand is I'm really big on, I think said it earlier, authenticity. And I think that was super, super helpful within my journey is once I became my authentic self.

⁓ My career really took off in a male-dominated space, which you wouldn't think that would happen. So, ⁓ really excited. It's going to come out in the middle of summer. It's called In Pursuit of Glory, and my name is Glory. So, ⁓ I'm really happy with the title. ⁓

Dayle (42:52)
of.

Jamie (42:54)
I love the book title. And I will

say, as somebody who is in a very similar industry, the same industry, I did over the years look at you and be like, what is she doing that I'm not doing? How has Glory managed to excel so quickly and so admirably in her career? I was always just in awe of

Glory Jewitt (43:06)
aww

Dayle (43:07)
Totally.

Keith Madge (43:13)
Yep.

Dayle (43:15)
Mm-hmm.

Glory Jewitt (43:21)
Thank you.

Jamie (43:22)
where

you were and what you were doing in your career. So I do think this is like a fascinating story. cannot wait to read it. Cause I'm like, I didn't get all the details I needed. So I do need to read the book. So that's so exciting. And I'm so proud of you. That's amazing. How do we get Keith joining in on the book club here?

Dayle (43:28)
same.

Yeah, exactly.

Glory Jewitt (43:31)
Yeah, no,

I hope, you Thank you.

Dayle (43:39)
Yeah, eeeh.

Glory Jewitt (43:39)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (43:39)
Well, I think

the last book I wrote was Bob by grade five Tyrese.

Dayle (43:44)
He shares his book every week you guys. He has

Glory Jewitt (43:44)
Hahaha

Dayle (43:48)
a book.

Glory Jewitt (43:49)
Tune into Keith and Glory, get Snippets of Keith's Journal every Tuesday.

Jamie (43:52)
Thank

Keith Madge (43:53)
No, think,

I think, I mean, by no glory story, and I've had sneak peek, I've read your books. And just to be to know you personally and see three inspirational women putting their stories out there all for different reasoning, you know, and I think, I mean, you guys should sell your book as a trilogy finding that woman.

Dayle (44:19)
Totally.

Keith Madge (44:20)
that woman in a bad relationship who has to overcome something, you know, I don't know. I think there, I think the world's going to be a better place with women reading your books and men.

Dayle (44:22)
Yeah.

Thank you.

Glory Jewitt (44:31)
The future is female, Keith, I hate to tell you.

Dayle (44:34)
Yeah.

Keith Madge (44:34)
I'm okay with that. As

long as you keep around the gays, the theys and anyone who slays.

Glory Jewitt (44:39)
We will. Anyway, yeah, that's amazing. But you guys inspired me also. mean, a lot of advice from you guys and ⁓ I appreciate all the insight into the book publisher and I don't know. Yeah, I think it's amazing what you've done. And I was like you, I've been thinking about writing a book for like 10 years. I could always have said, I should write a book. Some of the stories of In fort McMurray are a book in themselves. So I get kind of gritting into some of that. That's where we start. But yeah, it's been a ride.

Dayle (44:42)
you very much.

Absolutely.

Jamie (45:02)
Yeah, I bet.

Dayle (45:07)
Amazing.

Jamie (45:07)
One thing I

think that is really interesting to note is that we were noting like, you know, the similarities between Glory and I and then the similarities between Dale and Keith. And I do think that it's really interesting that you guys are similar in a lot of ways, but one way that I think is exceptional is that you both like exude happiness. And I don't know that people would necessarily say that about Glory and I, like they would be like, they're nice, they're this, they're that, they're whatever.

Keith Madge (45:16)
Totally.

Glory Jewitt (45:25)
Yeah.

Excuse me, baby?

Jamie (45:32)
But I think that like the aura of

like true, like you're just like exuding happiness and everywhere you go, you like lighten the mood. I think is something that's pretty specific to the two of you. So the fact that you guys are similar in all ways is...

Keith Madge (45:44)
God, we combine our powers, the joy we can bring

Dayle (45:45)
Well, I know.

Keith Madge (45:47)
to the world?

Dayle (45:48)
We might go start going for drinks every Thursday and like laugh till we pee in our pants. I don't know. But you know what I think about you, like Jamie and Glory, that's so much alike. You guys have such boss energy. Like we were at a women's event that talked all about just energy. And it was like how you show up to a meeting and it's why the both of you have very strong

Keith Madge (45:53)
I mean, we're going to, Dale.

Dayle (46:13)
careers in male dominated industries, because you've had to like learn to be strong. Whereas me and Keith are just walking and be like, hi, how's it going? You know, like more jokes, more fun, like, like, can we lighten this place up under your tie? Relax.

Glory Jewitt (46:21)
you

Keith Madge (46:21)
Whatever.

Glory Jewitt (46:26)
Keith's doing cartwheels at his

Keith Madge (46:26)
Yeah,

Glory Jewitt (46:27)
class.

Keith Madge (46:27)
I like to look at life through rose-colored glasses.

Dayle (46:30)
Me too. Me too. I love it.

Keith Madge (46:32)
I don't even like to watch bad, like, you know, horror shows or like CSI people dying and like, I'm like, give me rich ladies fighting any day of the week.

Dayle (46:36)
safe.

Housewives of anywhere.

Glory Jewitt (46:43)
I'm the opposite. I always say if

someone could look at my Netflix account, they'd think I was a serial killer because I'm obsessed with all the crime stories. Right.

Jamie (46:49)
Same. If it's not a crime documentary, I don't want it.

Dayle (46:49)
no!

Keith Madge (46:51)
I think they might

have found a new podcast co-host. The crossover turned into one of those scandalous partner swaps in the neighborhood, you know?

Glory Jewitt (46:56)
haha

Dayle (46:56)
Yeah, no

Jamie (46:56)
Bye!

Dayle (46:57)
kidding.

Jamie (46:57)
⁓

Dayle (46:57)
Bye guys, thanks. It's been nice knowing you, Jamie and Glory. ⁓

Glory Jewitt (47:00)
Yeah.

Hahaha

Jamie (47:05)
Exactly.

Dayle (47:07)
new cover art this afternoon.

Glory Jewitt (47:07)
right.

Keith Madge (47:09)
Well, this and I mean, we're right on time here. This was such, ⁓ so much fun, more fun than I even, and I expected it to be lots of fun. it was so great to connect with you guys again. And for our first crossover collab podcast.

Jamie (47:15)
Bye guys.

Dayle (47:20)
Yes.

Jamie (47:26)
Yes, I love it. I feel so honored to be your first guest.

Glory Jewitt (47:27)
Love it.

Dayle (47:30)
Yeah, that's cool.

Keith Madge (47:30)
Rarely, but

we're honored you're here.

Jamie (47:34)
Well, that's it for today and we're just so appreciative and listen to Keith and Glory, We're Not Sorry and...

Keith Madge (47:39)
Yes.

The proof is possible.

Jamie (47:45)
Is that the name of our-

Dayle (47:46)
Yes!

Keith Madge (47:47)
No.

Yeah. Okay. Like, I'm looking I'm like, Did I just say it wrong? The way you looked at me? Perfect possible.

Dayle (47:54)
What?

Jamie (47:54)
You guys,

don't- I'm- I'm sleep-derived, okay?

Keith Madge (47:58)
You're pretty, you're pretty, and that's all that matters.

Dayle (48:00)
Yeah, you're liking your pretty...

Glory Jewitt (48:01)
We'll cut that Eddie.

Cut that Eddie. Should we do that to exit again? Let's just, I feel like let's do it. No. Okay.

Dayle (48:07)
No, we're keeping it in. love it.

Jamie (48:08)
No, this is authenticity at its finest.

Keith Madge (48:11)
Right.

We're just living our authentic life. Okay. So Dale, we're good. Well, do have to run and pick up your kit?

Jamie (48:18)
Yeah, I gotta go.

It's been fun, guys. Thank you so

Glory Jewitt (48:20)
Thanks, Jamie.