Replay: What Does Wealth Mean to You?

Welcome back to Proof It's Possible! Many of us perceive wealth as something tied to a bank account, but are those numbers really what bring happiness? In this engaging conversation, Dayle and Jamie explore the multifaceted concept of wealth beyond just money. They discuss how abundance, freedom, happiness, and spiritual connection define wealth for them, emphasizing the importance of mindset and perspective in creating a fulfilling life. Tune in to discover: 

• Our definitions of wealth and the elements we believe constitute a wealthy life.
• The importance of making time for joy and play, prioritizing activities that are meaningful and fulfilling.
• The power of small moments and how cultivating joy and gratitude for the little things can turn the ordinary into something extraordinary.  
• Reframing your relationship with money as more than just a means to an end—it’s a tool for creating opportunities, reducing stress, and designing a life of peace and freedom.
• How meaningful work that ignites passion and purpose can be just as valuable as financial gains in your entrepreneurial journey.  

What does wealth mean to you? Share your thoughts with us — we’d love to hear! DM us on Instagram @dayle_sheehan_designs & @jamiedfrancis! See you next time!

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Transcript

Dayle (00:01.124)
Hi guys, welcome back. Today we are tackling the conversation of what does wealth mean to us and asking yourself the question because you know, the automatic thought is that wealth is about a bank account, but we actually are, we think that it means much more than that and we each have our own list of what that looks like.

So we're wondering also and challenging you to talk about what's on your list for a wealthy life. Jay, why don't you start us off? What's something that you consider wealth?

Jamie (00:35.178)
this.

Well, I just think as like summer winds down, summer's my season, summer's how I like to spend my time. Like if I could just exclusively live in one season, it would be summer. So like I love summer. And although it doesn't have like the comfort of a routine and like, you know, the kids off to school and all the things that I also love, I love the like abundance of summer.

Dayle (00:46.276)
Thank you.

Jamie (01:03.166)
I love going to the farmer's market and like having fresh produce and like everything's in season. And so you get to enjoy the cherries and you get to enjoy the strawberries and you're not like, these are hydroponically grown and these are disgusting, you know, from a big box store. So I love like the abundance of it. Like I love that there's flowers and that there's leaves all over the trees and everything just feels like really full and beautiful and abundant. I love that. So to me, wealth is like abundance, abundance of

everything like there's there's food there's flowers there's time there's just abundance of everything the other thing for me

Dayle (01:40.77)
And this is why we are not identical twins because I've never even considered any of those things to be like part of my wealth. I mean, I should, like, I like your perspective, but I'm like, okay, interesting. Thanks for bringing that up.

Jamie (01:54.592)
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe you need to do Deepak Chopra's 21 Days of Abundance because his meditation. It's a great meditation series if anyone's looking. Anyways, I also think that freedom, like for me, the biggest pillar of my wealth is how much freedom I get. I am not somebody who can

Dayle (01:58.894)
Yeah. Potentially, yes. Or like move to BC. don't know. Something. Okay. Carry on.

Dayle (02:21.559)
Of course.

Jamie (02:23.904)
have too much restraint. Like I don't, I couldn't have a conventional job where I, you know, am told when I get to spend my two weeks vacation, how I get to spend them, whether I'll be on call for my two weeks vacation. Like none of that is in alignment with like wealth. I don't care if I got paid $10 million, but I was a prisoner to my company. just wouldn't, it just wouldn't work for me. I have to have like the freedom to show up.

Dayle (02:41.806)
Well...

Yeah.

Jamie (02:52.874)
to the things that matter the most to me.

Dayle (02:56.1)
For sure, and like, I think it's even smaller than your vacation. It's like moments like getting your kids off to their first days of school. And if you had a conventional job, you would have been late. You would have been taking time off. You would have been, you know, if you do have a sick kid, you're now taking up sick days that aren't even necessarily your sick days. So I do think like even as a parent, freedom's a bigger thing than ever. Like the more...

Because you do need more time in your life to do the things you need to do.

Jamie (03:26.868)
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I got a really, to the outside world, a really great job opportunity like eight years ago. And I lasted one week because I was told I couldn't come in half an hour later than my normal time, even though I was gonna stay later. And this was like, before I even accepted the job, I had said my first child is starting preschool.

Dayle (03:35.844)
Mm

Jamie (03:55.68)
It's her very first day ever being away from me. I would really like to be there for her to go to see her off to preschool. I will be in at 8 .30 instead of eight. I'm willing to stay late. I told them all of this was happening before I took the job. Yeah, no problem. No problem. The day before rolled around. Nope, that's not going to work. There was no good reason for it like not working. And later that day I quit and I was like, I am not going to be a prisoner for anyone or anything.

Dayle (04:03.843)
Right?

Dayle (04:08.516)
Yeah.

Dayle (04:22.24)
Mm -hmm. Totally, Woo, for sure.

Jamie (04:26.27)
And I know that's a good nice luxury. And for me, it was a huge financial risk at the time. But it just felt so out of alignment with how I wanted to live my life. to me, is how you want to live your life. What makes you feel like you have it all? And for me, it's the freedom to show up for my first child's preschool orientation or first day of preschool or first day of school.

Dayle (04:31.811)
Yes.

Dayle (04:45.9)
Yeah, well in freedom. Yeah, go ahead.

Jamie (04:55.84)
to show up at the volleyball game at 3 .30 or to be there for hockey practice, ring out practice, baseball practice. I'm not willing to just miss out on life because I have this good paying job.

Dayle (05:09.38)
Right. Well, and not to be confused with freedom, because freedom is my like North Star. It's my thing too. That's what wealth means. It's like I am making my own schedule. I am deeply, deeply grateful to work from home. That is something like if I got a regular job that was from home, I would have a better time with it, an easier time with it than a job that was in an office, like just with my physical situation as far as being in a wheelchair and all that.

Being able to make money from home is very much a luxury to me. That is an actual like sign of like my wealthy life. Like, you know what I mean? Maybe it doesn't mean lots of money. Maybe it does mean lots of money, but I have like to get to just my commute is from my room after I get ready in the morning to my desk. That's in my within the walls of my home.

not fighting the elements, not having to get into the snow and drive a car and have the stress of that every day. I can't even explain how much energy that would take up for me, physical and mental and emotional, just because I would worry constantly. I'd be constantly worried, like what happens if I get caught in a snowstorm and I can't get myself out, or what if I got in an accident, you know. And then it would also impact my husband, my family, because...

they'd be worrying for me as well. And they'd sometimes be bailing me out and leaving their jobs to do the things that they need to do. So, but when, when I say freedom and when we talk freedom, I think that there can be a really big misunderstanding. And I talked about this on a path. We've talked about this on past episodes, with you don't have to work. Like you make your own schedule. So work three days a week instead of five. And like, if you can do your job and make the amount of money you want in three days, I,

Please do. highly recommend that as well. a lot of entrepreneurship requires as many or way more hours. You just choose to do them at different times. If I'm my own boss, I can work till eight o 'clock at night if I need to. Like I had a day this week where Darren wasn't home and I have a million things going on. This is a little bit of a busy season for me.

Jamie (07:14.419)
Hmm.

Dayle (07:28.004)
and we have a girls trip coming up and all these things. So there's just a lot to do. And like same with you, your kids are finally back. There's a lot going on in your world as far as like work and stuff goes that you had to put on the back burner to put your family first for the summer. But that doesn't mean you didn't work this summer because you were showing up for your kids. It meant that you worked from 4 a to 7 a before they got up maybe. And if you do have a conventional job without a lot of freedom,

Jamie (07:51.591)
dear.

Dayle (07:56.74)
They want you in business hours because business hours are when their customers need to get a hold of you. So working at 4 a doesn't necessarily work for a business. And like, fair enough, if I'm the business owner and I need somebody there doing answering questions and working with others, don't, nobody else, I can't talk a lot of people into working at four o 'clock in the morning, you know, whereas you can, you can.

Jamie (08:18.42)
Yeah, absolutely.

Dayle (08:20.984)
talk yourself into working at four o 'clock in the morning if that works for you. And you and I are complete opposites in our time freedom in that if I get the chance to work in the evening, I would pick the evening because that's when my brain works and you would never like you're a.

Jamie (08:32.372)
Never. Never. I have a rule. I have like a hard and fast rule with Ray that he is not to speak business to me past five p I just can't handle it. I cannot handle it. And he knows if he like breaches the rule and I say I'm not willing to talk about it, he knows that like that's the end of the story. She'll talk to me in the morning about it. And I just don't have it me at five p or later.

Dayle (08:41.74)
Yeah, because you guys do business together. Yeah, you guys are business. Yeah, totally.

Dayle (08:53.87)
Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, and like honestly, I swear to God, some days my brain doesn't start working until like 10 o 'clock in the morning. I can do busy work, but I cannot do like the detail oriented, know, make sure I'm dotting the I's and crossing the T's work that I need to do sometimes until I'm fully focused and into it. And that takes like waking up.

And so I can like go through emails or I can answer quick questions. I can do busy work. I just can't do the detail work at the wrong, at my like wrong time of day.

Jamie (09:37.266)
So the way I think my brain works is that I wake up full of like brain power and as I spend the brain power, less and less is available. It's like a bank account. It's like a bank account. As I start spending through the day, less and less is available. So in the morning, I got like a big fat bank account of brain power and as the evening approaches, I got nothing left. I went on a shopping spree that day. I have nothing to give to anybody as far as like

Dayle (09:43.406)
Yeah.

Dayle (09:47.788)
Yeah, you're a gas tank. Yeah.

Dayle (09:58.702)
totally.

Jamie (10:07.102)
smarts out there. I can take kids to sports and do all the things, but the other thing that.

Dayle (10:12.522)
busy work to me like you don't need to focus completely and like be dialed in on your task to in order to do your busy work your busy work is like getting the ball uniforms and making sure and loading the truck and driving and you know you can do those things like you don't need to go to bed after you've

Jamie (10:22.784)
You

Jamie (10:26.112)
Mm

No, I didn't go to bed at five. No, my motherhood is just ramping up at 5 p I have 17 sports to get to and dinners to make. Yeah.

Dayle (10:34.847)
Exactly. Totally.

Exactly. So are there any other areas of wealth that you feel like are important for you?

Jamie (10:44.786)
Yes, one of the biggest areas of wealth for me, another like guiding star for me is like happiness, like not just existing in this life, but like actually having a good life. Like to me, wealth means enjoying what I'm doing, having fun, getting to do things that like light me up, go on vacations, know, do.

the things that actually bring me joy. And so whatever that looks like for the listeners, whether that's painting, reading, journaling, yoga, hiking in the trees, in the woods, whatever that looks like, does your life consist of any form of fun? Any form of play, any form of joy, any form of happiness?

Dayle (11:25.378)
Yes. And on like a, yeah. And on a regular basis, like my life doesn't include hiking, obviously, like the wheelchair and hiking isn't the greatest combo. And I'm fine with it, but I do love socializing. So like for me, I need to like work in seeing friends every week, seeing, having friends over for like a dinner or a girls night or something. Seeing you guys like,

you know, I need to go have like a week where you guys fill my cup and that's an important part of my routine.

Jamie (11:59.36)
For sure. I think...

think everybody has like a social bucket. Mine just happens to be quite large. Like I need a lot of social interaction to feel content in my social life. Or like introverts, they're like, if you know, some people are just too chatty for me and I hate that. And I'm like, what? Okay, I can't believe it. Everybody's bucket is a different size. But that's a huge one for me is that like, have I interacted with enough people in a day to feel content?

Dayle (12:12.174)
same.

Dayle (12:21.34)
Or I have a girlfriend, yeah.

Totally.

Jamie (12:32.404)
Satisfied. It's weird, but I don't know.

Dayle (12:33.774)
Totally. Well, and like I have a girlfriend that says I hate small talk. So if it's only a small talk conversation, it just makes her feel tired, annoyed. Like she's not interested. It's not, it's hard for her. She doesn't enjoy it. Whereas like, honestly, I could chat with anyone and that can count as an interaction that brought me joy. Like if I meet a nice grandma in the waiting room at the hair salon and have a nice talk with her, I'm, she doesn't have to be my best friend after, but I can count it.

Jamie (12:54.165)
Mm -hmm.

Dayle (13:03.648)
as like positive interaction. And so it's also what type of like social thing you need, you know, like it's the bucket has different like needs for different people. Yeah, so I agree. I totally agree that like happiness is a form of wealth, because I do think that if you have a life filled with fretting and stress, and there isn't a level of happiness.

Jamie (13:05.854)
Yeah.

Jamie (13:28.074)
Or even worse, even worse for me than like fretting and stress, because that can be like snippets of time. You know, you're in a stressful season or something really stressful happened at work or in life or whatever, you know. That's like a snapshot in time. For me, the biggest like indicator of like bankruptcy in your life is the mundane. Like where you just literally survive, you just exist. Nothing brings you joy, you get up.

You drink your coffee, go, you know, like you do everything and nothing lights you up. That is like, ugh.

Dayle (13:58.041)
Yeah.

Dayle (14:04.494)
For sure. Well, and isn't that like, isn't that like a hack to happiness is to let those little things be enjoyable. Like find the coffee creamer and the perfect pod that you love and you wait. Like I wake up and be like, I get my coffee now because I only get one coffee a day. So it's my like special morning routine. And I, and I'm super grateful because I get to sit at my desk and look out the window and like,

Jamie (14:24.212)
Me too.

Dayle (14:31.83)
our neighborhood has lots of birds and cute little squirrels. And like, I literally like make that a special thing. And when Darren was working from home during COVID, we would do like, let's have lunch on the deck because we have a short summer season. So that felt like we were calling those like lunch dates and turning them or we could be like, we have to wipe the table because it's got dust all over it. And let's not, it's not worth it to go outside. You know, like you can look at, you can either romanticize your life and make the best out of the mundane.

Or you could be miserable about and be like, there's other people that get to go to Starbucks every day and I have to work from home so I don't go out in the morning. So I have to make my own coffee. You know, like it's mindset and perspective. And if you look at the mundane as like the worst case scenario, it will be. And if you look at it as like, yay, it's time for my coffee. I'm or I'm making something delicious for supper tonight. I'm excited about that. Or I'm excited because I have plans this weekend with friends or whatever it looks like.

Jamie (15:14.164)
Mm -hmm.

Jamie (15:31.786)
Hmm.

Dayle (15:31.972)
Life is can be what exactly what your mind believes it is. So you have to be so careful. So, so careful.

Jamie (15:38.634)
Absolutely.

Jamie (15:42.9)
And then the last thing on my list for wealth is like spiritual wealth. Like how connected do I feel to like whatever it is that's like guiding me. For me, it's the universe. Like I am a universal truth kind of gal. For some people, it's like, you know, a very specific God that their religion believes in. But for me, it's like, do I feel

Dayle (15:57.026)
Right.

Jamie (16:10.9)
content that like everything is happening for a reason. And for me, this has a lot to do with mindset because if I feel like, well, I know it doesn't feel great in the moment, but I know that it's, I trust the universe is doing it the greatest good for me, then it's easier to come out of it. So it's basically like keeps my mindset on track. And I know if I've pulled away from like my belief in like that, in my spirituality and my belief in myself, then that's when my mindset really starts to suffer. Cause I'm like,

Life is hard. Everything's hard. Everything bad is happening to me. Like, I think everyone has moments of it. Like when you're PMSing or really tough circumstances happen, you can have those moments where you like, you do feel like the walls are caving in. But for me, it's that like abundance is believing that no matter what happens, it'll all work out. Believing that like every bad situation is just like a building block to a much better one. so

Dayle (16:41.88)
Yeah. Totally.

course.

Dayle (17:06.21)
Mm hmm. Well, or like there's days it was about I don't have too many like cranky days, but I had a cranky cranky day like two weeks ago and I was just crabby and I couldn't stop being and the only thing I kept saying to myself is tomorrow's a new day. Tomorrow's a new day. Tomorrow's a new day. And like I did what I could that day to like be nice about things and not just be a spaz. But I knew that that wasn't there to stay. It was probably just like some hormonal thing or

I don't really know why it happened that day and it's fine. You're allowed to feel your feelings and whatever they were, I just let them be. And didn't try to talk myself out of them. But I knew that having that higher power or the idea that everything does happen for a reason, it's like for whatever reason, I needed to have this cranky day and I'm gonna have the cranky day. And then hopefully tomorrow I wake up on the right side of the bed. And if I do that too many days in a row where it became a

question as to like, why is my mood shifting? Or why is my you know, I would treat it like a little bit of investigation, I'd figure out what I could do differently, like or what isn't in alignment, you know, do the micro hacks along the way and just things that I did do it was like, okay, you know what, go move your body. Because if you're if your insides are just like bugging you, there are x like outside things that you can do that will make you feel a tiny bit better in the moment.

Jamie (18:32.959)
Mm

Dayle (18:33.09)
And if that's watching trash TV while you do your bike, fine. Wash trash, you know, take your mind off whatever mind you it's the best therapy other than like.

Jamie (18:39.078)
It's actually one of my like favorite things. Speaking of like getting joy out of the mundane, like give me a load of laundry with the door closed and some smut TV and I am in paradise. Okay, I know I said the last one was my last one, but truly this is my last one. And it's money. Because money

Dayle (18:46.708)
Exactly.

Exactly. Totally.

Dayle (18:57.89)
Yeah. Okay. I, that's what I was going to say. I was going to say, okay, so you missed the only one or like not the only one, but the most obvious one we, we touched on it, but it is money.

Jamie (19:10.206)
Of course, and like universe, woo hoo, are you listening? We like money because at the end of the day, money buys freedom. Money buys, it you opportunity to give you more freedom to do more of the things that you love, to bring you more joy. Yes, it gives you the opportunity.

Dayle (19:12.898)
Yep. Roll it in. Yes. Happiness. Like, hey.

Dayle (19:24.312)
to make you happy. Exactly. It takes away stresses. It takes away stresses that cause for a lot of heaviness. And money is something that I'm really good to call in and be and work really hard for, you know, like I'm not saying like, universe. Okay, I'll take cash. I'm going to be suntanning on the deck while you deliver. Yeah, I'm open. I'm open. But I know that it but you know what's interesting about money is that

Jamie (19:33.907)
and then.

Jamie (19:38.528)
Yeah.

Jamie (19:44.884)
Well, the universe feels like doing that, then it can't.

Dayle (19:53.87)
When you do find something that you love and you figure out a way to trade that for money, it is a big source of self -trust, of happiness, of it helps your mindset. To me, it's very much, and maybe I'm working more than the average person or something, but I think I like working because I like the things I work on.

Jamie (20:07.604)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.

Dayle (20:23.3)
If I hated my job, I don't think I would get the same payoff of what that looks like. And that is what entrepreneurship brings to me, is all of these things. But the payoff of like making a living that I'm really proud of, doing work that I'm really happy I'm proud

Jamie (20:40.489)
Mm -hmm.

Jamie (20:44.192)
Yeah, for sure.

Dayle (20:45.102)
You know, so, all right. We'd love to hear. Yeah.

Jamie (20:47.412)
Well, tell us what wealth means to you. I want to hear what wealth means to other people.

Dayle (20:54.946)
And did we miss anything? Like, you know, is there like a big area that we aren't talking about that you're like, you know what it is to me and it's not something we discussed? Please share. We would love to hear from you.

Jamie (20:56.703)
Yeah.