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The McClain Method | Business Tools For Interior Designers
Welcome to The McClain Method — the go-to podcast for interior designers who want to grow a profitable, polished, and well-run design business.
I’m your host, John McClain—award-winning interior designer, business mentor, author, and branding strategist. If you want to learn how to:
• price your interior design services
• attract high-value clients
• streamline your design process
• improve your client experience
• elevate your brand and visibility
• run your design firm with confidence
…you’re in the right place.
This podcast isn’t about pillows and paint swatches.
Here, we focus on the business of interior design—marketing, pricing, branding, sales, systems, visibility, mindset, and everything it actually takes to build a thriving design firm.
Each episode gives you clear strategies, actionable tools, and behind-the-scenes insights you can use immediately to grow your business and elevate your clients’ experience.
If you’re ready to step into your next level as an interior designer—and finally run a business that reflects your brilliance—welcome home.
The McClain Method | Business Tools For Interior Designers
77: How to Sell Without Feeling Salesy: The Steve Jobs Strategy for Designers + Creatives
What do interior designers, creatives, and wellness founders have in common? Most of them hate selling—but still need to do it daily.
In this episode, John sits down with Christopher Francis, engineer-turned-entrepreneur and founder of Home Plunge, the world’s first cold plunge designed for your home bathtub.
Drawing inspiration from Steve Jobs and his own experience bridging product design with human connection, Christopher shares how to sell without being pushy, pitchy, or fake.
Inside this conversation:
✔ How to guide clients who “don’t know what they want”
✔ The art of showing—not telling—your expertise
✔ What every creative can learn from cold plunges and consumer feedback
✔ Why authenticity is your best sales strategy
✔ The power of solving real problems beautifully
If you’ve ever second-guessed your prices, held back a bold idea, or felt icky about closing the deal—this episode is for you.
More on HomePlunge:
WEBSITE: https://www.thehomeplunge.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/homeplunge/
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