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S2 E40 | Black Clover The Fight Within: Balancing Trucking and MMA Dreams
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In the realm of combat sports, few stories embody raw determination quite like that of Forrest "The Black Clover." From the humble beginnings of Dade City, Florida, where growing up with seven brothers meant daily wrestling matches were simply part of life, Forrest has carved a unique path to becoming a 6-1 professional MMA fighter while maintaining a full-time career as a truck driver.
This conversation peels back the layers of what makes a fighter persist despite overwhelming odds. Forrest reveals how he manages the seemingly impossible—driving trucks across state lines, sometimes to Texas and back, while maintaining the discipline to train, cut weight, and dominate in the cage. "If you want it bad enough, you're going to find a way to do it," he shares, describing how he performs pull-ups in his truck and jumps rope in the back of trailers just to stay conditioned while working.
What truly separates this fighter is his authentic approach to both victory and defeat. After amassing an impressive 8-0 amateur record, Forrest transitioned to pro fighting with refreshing honesty about his motivations: "What made me stop at eight was I wanted to get paid." His lone professional loss became not a setback but a catalyst, especially after seeing the look on his young son's face following the fight: "No more losing in front of you, this ain't happening," he vowed. True to his word, his comeback fight ended with a devastating first-round TKO.
The discussion also explores the science behind weight cutting, the importance of proper nutrition (partnering with Venom Nutrition transformed his recovery), and his unique connection to anime that inspired his fighting moniker. At 31, with only five years in the sport, Forrest sees himself as just beginning his prime—drawing inspiration from fighters like Daniel Cormier who started MMA at 30 and became UFC champions.
Catch Forrest "The Black Clover" in action at Combat Night on June 21st at the Coliseum in St. Petersburg, Florida, as he continues his journey toward UFC glory. Follow him @BlackClover_MMA for updates and use code "BlackClover15" for discounts on supplements that fuel his double life as a trucker-fighter.
Meet Forrest the Black Clover
Vince SerranoWelcome to Happy Hour. Holidays man. We got a special, special merger, I guess a collaboration. We got Venom Nutrition. What up, joey?
Joey LumpkinMy dog. What's up man?
Vince SerranoHey, chilling. And then we got me with Youngest in the Yacht Club co-hosting this thing.
Sean FebreNo, no Hosting it bro, Hosting it. You know what I'm saying.
Vince SerranoYou know what I'm saying Really, really making it happen.
Sean FebreWe kicked out happy hour holidays. I don't know what that is. I mean, I can tell you it's not even in the frame. Oh, he's in the back. Yeah, he's there, he's there.
Vince SerranoWe got Sean in the back and then today's special guest man. He's got a fight coming up on June 21st. We got Forrest the Black Clover. What up, man? You know what I'm saying? He got them hands Right, yeah, so what's the Black Clover?
The Black CloverWhat is that man? Oh man, the Black Clover is me. It actually started like I was trying to come up with a name for myself as a fighter. I was going by Clover for a little bit and then one of my homeboys told me about an anime. I'm an anime nerd.
Joey LumpkinOkay, they were telling me about an anime called Black Clover.
The Black CloverSo we just plugged it in and I went from there.
Vince SerranoHas that name helped you as far as like oh yeah yeah, it sticks.
The Black CloverAnd now everyone's like, oh, you called my black cover. Everyone's trying to watch the anime now. Now it's like they're putting the pieces together. They see the background of how this kid grew up and the struggles that he went through, and then they kind of put it together.
Joey LumpkinSo it's related for you too.
The Black CloverYeah, yeah, someone that came from nothing and then became very powerful.
Sean FebreI didn't even know what's the favorite anime show of yours. My favorite, yeah.
The Black CloverAll the time, man, it's Yu Yu Hakusho. Oh okay, all right.
Joey LumpkinI don't even know about that, yeah yeah, and when I tell people I'm like yo Black Clover, they're like is he like an anime nerd? That's what he tells me, because I'm starting to get into it, and if you don't know, oh man that's it.
Vince SerranoDon't call him a nerd. Yeah, yeah, you know, are you a?
The Black CloverDBZ guy I am. I love DBZ yeah. The new one or the old one, oh I don't know, I watched the new, but I'm an older Favorite character. Real quick, Goku.
Sean FebreGoku, all days, all day. I had to, I had to.
The Black CloverBut you know, they could have brought, they could have did something different, Rob.
Vince SerranoMarkman yeah, the originals are always. I feel like they always started off man. Yeah, rob Markman. Bro, tell us a little bit about yourself. Tell us where you from. What got you into the fighting thing, the scene you said you came from nothing, how'd that-?
Journey into Fighting and Family Background
The Black CloverYeah, so I have seven brothers. I was born in Dade City. You know I was trying to follow behind my oldest brother Footsteps. He did wrestling for a little bit. You know you got seven brothers all in the same household.
Vince SerranoWe all fighting, we all making out. Older brother, younger brother, body slam you got the favoritism.
The Black CloverYou know like oh, I'm telling your mom, bro, she gonna see this slayer Exactly, you know, you got the favoritism.
Joey LumpkinYou know like Rob Markman, the favorite brother body slayer.
Sean FebreOh, I'm telling your mom Rob Markman, the favorite brother body slayer.
Joey LumpkinBro, she gonna see this she gonna see this. She know what's up? The oldest you got he was doing wrestling and then he started doing MMA.
The Black CloverSo I just followed behind his footsteps. I started doing wrestling in high school. I only did three years, but I was pretty well accomplished in those three years, going to East Bay High School and following under him.
Vince SerranoWell, now you're fighting out of Lakeland, right?
The Black CloverYeah, so the gym I go to is Champions. It's out of Lakeland.
Joey LumpkinShout out Champions.
The Black CloverChampions MMA what it do, but I was born in Dade City so it's not too far. But I actually started off at Top Brothers in Gracie Brandon. That's why I started out originally for MMA.
Sean FebreWow, so that's where you amassed an amateur career of 8-0?. Yes, yeah them two gyms and you were playing eight, though, rob Markman. Yeah, eight and nine, by the way, rob Markman, and it was likely to be the welterweight, right, rob Markman? Yeah, I did both and I did. I ain't going to forget the middleweight. I did a middleweight fight too at 185.
The Black CloverSo I did 155, I did 170, and I did 185.
Vince SerranoRob Markman All MMA, rob Markman All. What was that like?
The Black CloverSo it's well. What made me want to get into it is just the. It was a few fights that I watched growing up and then, like I said just, I got tired of getting beat up by my brothers. Yeah, just trying to keep up with them.
Vince SerranoThe reason I ask, bro, is because I don't like getting kicked Right, so-.
Sean FebreHey, what's wrong with your leg?
Vince SerranoVincent, yeah, yeah, I mean especially with the surgery. I have not let nobody touch.
Joey LumpkinI watched the trainings but it ain't Rob Markman. Don't touch my knees, Vincent Pérez Jr. Nah, I need my knee.
Vince SerranoAnd then not just that MMA man, y'all will take a bitch down to the ground and all that. So it's like I know with Gracie Brandon, because that's Brazilian jujitsu, right.
Sean FebreRight, it is, it is yeah.
Vince SerranoBut like what made you say you know what, fuck it, I'm going that way.
The Black CloverNo, so what made me, what like actually made me like push me was it was a kid that I wrestled and it was at Brandon High School and we was facing each other and he's like, did like a hard ass, slam on me, slapped me on my shit, so I lost that match. And then, after we graduated and stuff like that, I found out that he was doing MMA and I was like, oh, I can get my, get back.
Vince SerranoThis is somebody I can fight.
The Black CloverI forget his name it's Kyle Cozier. He went to Brennan High School, so when I saw him-.
Vince SerranoBrennan had a good wrestling team too. They did, they did, they did, they did.
The Black CloverSo I was like okay, I can get my get back. So I wanted to fight him. And then when I actually got into it and I did my first fight and everything he was done with MMA, so I was like oh, I got talent here, so I'm going to continue to go. Rob Markman that's cool.
Vince SerranoHow did it feel like being in your first MMA fight amateur, regardless, just being in that?
The Black Clovercage. It was a little nerve wrecking, hell yeah.
Joey LumpkinI mean.
The Black CloverI was nervous but I felt comfortable because since I started I was training with guys that was on a different level.
Vince SerranoRight.
The Black CloverI've been training with black belts since I started. I was training with guys that's already in the UFC. So I felt comfortable In my mind. I was like this guy isn't going to be better than Pharoah. This guy isn't going to be better than Billy Q. This guy isn't going to be better than Pharoah. This guy isn't going to be better than Billy Q. This guy isn't going to be better than Jamie. You know, like putting these pieces together, like there's no way that this guy is going to be better than this UFC vet.
Sean FebreSo I was just comfortable always in that age. You know what's something that a lot of people may not know about you is you used to be a truck driver? No, I still am.
Joey LumpkinOh, still are.
Sean FebreI got a quote here I go on the road, come back, cut weight, and if you want it bad enough, you have to go for it. Oh yeah.
Vince SerranoBoom.
The Black CloverYeah, that's wax.
Vince SerranoHow do you manage both man?
The Black CloverMan, I, just how much do you want it? You know I'm dedicated to this and that's why I say even with me being at a disadvantage, I'm still whooping these guys. You know what. I mean Now, even with me being at a disadvantage, I'm still whooping these guys. Now imagine me being just full time focused on just fighting.
Vince SerranoThat's it.
Balancing Trucking Career and MMA
The Black CloverThat's my job, yeah, so what I do is I go to work, I drive my truck, do my loads. I used to do Texas, so I used to Jesus Christ, yeah, so I used to drive out to Texas. I mean, dude, I started off at I was like 220 before I started the sport so I'd drive out to Texas make my deliveries. Then I'd have to come back. I'd be gone for like three to four days, then I'd just have to start training. But now I have it to where I work and then I can come back in the mornings, train in the mornings, get some sleep, shower and everything, and then go back to work the same night. So it's like I said everyone has like what they want to do. If you really want to do it, if you're dedicated to it, you're going to find a way to do it.
Sean FebreWere you doing anything in the cab of the truck that was helping you? Maybe it would be mental or physical or whatever it could be.
The Black CloverOh man, I got a few videos up.
Sean Febreman Replay fights in your head.
The Black CloverYeah, I watch fights man I I watch fights. Man. I'm watching fights all the time where I'm doing pull-ups in the truck. I'm going in the back of the trailer, I'm hitting jump ropes man, I'm sweating.
Joey LumpkinI'm doing everything bro.
Sean FebreI'll load half this truck so I can get some jump rope.
The Black CloverThe hardest thing, man, is the diet. When you're on the road, you have access to so much food in the company Fast food right Bro every time. And access to so much food in the company fast food right, bro, every time. And then you got the rewards, you got the company that pays for your food. So like it's, it's, it's right there, like it's so tempting but you know, like I said, you got to be dedicated to your craft, so that's why I'm out with it.
Vince SerranoThat's crazy, bro, isn't it?
Joey LumpkinI remember, yeah, and I remember uh I remember you hit me up it was like the middle of the night because you want some crazy hours too yeah, yeah, yeah. And I remember I did the one podcast with you guys and I was talking about you know, I get up at 220 every day. People are like how the hell do you do that? I'm like how bad, do you want it?
Vince SerranoYeah.
Joey LumpkinAnd I remember you sent me like a voice message.
The Black CloverYeah.
Joey LumpkinI opened my phone the next morning and it was like three minutes long and I'm like, oh shit was like bro. I just watched that fucking podcast. You brought more of a dog out in me because even though like and I'm sure anybody in the room right now the show, you hear shit like that and you're like, damn, I got an excuse right now. I'm getting up at five and I'm pissed. How the fuck are you functioning at 2 30?
Sean Febreyeah, and it's like I could do more than this I remember when I picked up one of the shirts at bro yeah I think it was at like 4 am that I picked it up at uh oh yeah, for my work. Yeah, yeah, I honestly did not believe it bro, I was like there's no way joey's here this early yeah, he's fucking, and you already got a workout in yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I clock in at 3, 30 every day now.
Joey LumpkinSo I mean it's, you know, I do that. Life, kids fucking, two businesses, like like you said, bro, if you want it bad enough, you'll figure it, the fuck out. For sure.
Vince SerranoSo that's crazy, bro. The transition to that to the pros. You went 8-0. You know what I'm saying. So how did that amateur record that undefeated streak? What lessons did you learn from that that you took into the pros?
Joey LumpkinAnd I guess too what made you stop at 8? Did you want 10? Yeah, yeah. What made you transition?
The Black CloverIf I'm being honest if I'm being honest with the transition. What made me stop at eight was I wanted to get paid, that's fair. I'm doing this for free, and then at this point, man, like if people follow my journey they know Forrest is cool with these guys out of this gym. These guys out of this gym Like I can't really fight people around here.
Sean FebreNow you know what I mean. So it's like now, yo homies, exactly.
The Black CloverNow I have to travel. You have to send me to Jersey, you have to send me to Indiana. You know I got to make these.
Joey LumpkinYou know what I mean? Your last fight in Georgia. Yeah, georgia, yeah.
The Black CloverThis is what I have to do now, because I'm Whoop that ass by the way.
Joey LumpkinYeah, putting it to him.
Sean FebreNo, actually that video.
Joey LumpkinYou were fucking. One thing I love about you and, honestly, fighters that are professionals that are good fucking people. Yeah, so humbling to watch your boy. What's Big Brooks?
Vince SerranoBig Brooks yeah, yeah, yeah, that does all your videos and shit man that was so humbling to see.
Joey LumpkinYeah, for sure, bro, but that's tight because, like I love watching that and I love the humbleness from you guys, like even right now, like he's quiet, he's chill, yeah which I know this for a lot of fighters.
Sean FebreYeah, in the ring it's a whole different animal right and um, I just love.
Joey LumpkinLike after the fight y'all were hugging, talking to each other and shit, because it's all love at the end of the day. So you were a better man that day. And then the other guy. You just gotta keep moving, you keep your head up and keep fucking grinding.
Sean FebreYeah, so you were a better man that day. And then the other guy. You just got to keep moving, you keep your head up and keep fucking grinding. You accumulated a 5-0 record within 15 months. Man, yeah, that's a fight every three months, bro. I'm active, I'm active, I want to be active, and that's the thing, bro, in the streets.
The Black CloverAnd that's another problem. Right, like, you have some fighters it is what it is but they want to pick their fights right With me. My situation is a little different, right? So for me, I get offered guys that I train with. You can't offer me someone that I just got done training with. Like, for example, I just left Gracie South Tampa. I'm training with these guys. You're going to offer me them to fight on a regional scene. It doesn't make any sense. Now, if we're talking UFC, we're talking contender series. We all got an agreement, we got to do what we got to do, we got to fight, but on a regional scene. It doesn't really make any sense, because now I'm messing up my connections in terms of training Rob.
Vince SerranoMarkman yeah, you can't even work in the same camp. Rob Markman Exactly Rob Markman, exactly Rob Markman.
Joey LumpkinWhich could not be beneficial for you for a fight, because now you're switching what you're used to training with sound like they high level. Yeah, they high level guys.
Vince SerranoThey better than the dudes that I'm going to be fighting anywhere else. So why am I going to mess up my camp to rock with them? And then I got to fight these dudes.
Joey LumpkinThey going to be able to be straight we just ate lunch yesterday together.
The Black CloverBut we got to understand Everybody I train with. They already know I've been offered this is just an example again my dog Cedric. I've been offered this is just an example again my dog Cedric. I've been offered to fight him four times. I've been offered to fight my boy Thor again. They wanted us to rematch. These are guys I train with. You know what I mean. So it's like I'm not. There are so many other fighters you can offer me. Give me someone further down south, give me someone from Miami, give me someone from Naples.
Sean FebreYou know. You know what I mean. So why are they trying to get you to fight people in your own camp? It's just so the thing is right.
The Black CloverI rep champions MMA, that's my gym, right? So they see that. They don't see that I'm training with, or I'm cross training with, these guys out in Kaizen, these guys out in South Tampa, these guys out, they don't see that. So the people that are trying to set up his fights.
Sean FebreThey're looking at two different camps and they're like oh, we'll take him from here and him from here. The matchmaker.
Vince SerranoExactly.
Joey LumpkinThey don't know that they're fighting all around the same places, right.
The Black CloverYeah, right Like they're literally in the same areas, training with each other, exactly. Yeah, you don't see champions Fusion, kaizen, gracie, south Tampa Top Brothers. You don't see all these gyms.
Vince SerranoYou got to pick one man you be at Fusion too. Huh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's Philly Fresh, that's what I'm saying.
The Black CloverYeah, yeah man. Hey, shout out to Philly man. Yeah man, he got a fight coming up, he hit hard.
Vince SerranoYo, he a character too, bro. Bro, he be out there. He's like an influencer fighter.
Joey LumpkinOh yeah, you know what?
The Black CloverI'm saying he's cool man, and that's where Mike Perry and all the people going.
Vince SerranoYep yep Yo. So you got like a real, real big like what is your routine during camp, like setting up for a fight? Does it change?
The Black CloverYeah, it changed, man. Honestly, it depends on who I'm going against. So my last fight against Nate it was more of like we want to keep this fight standing up, All right. So this is going to be more based off of the guys that's going to help me out at Kaizen, the guys that's going to help me out in Gracie South, Because of my work schedule these two make more sense.
The Black CloverAnd then there was another fight where, for example, when I fought Thor, it made more sense for me to go do my training camp at Fusion, because they have a little bit more well, they have more black belts in terms of grappling, exchanges and stuff like that. So I wanted to be around more wrestlers. So I kind of decide what kind of camp I want to do with that. But my very first fight, we didn't know what to expect from the guy because there wasn't a lot of film, so we went to Brazil and we got our training when I went to Brazil.
The Black CloverI was like, oh yeah, I'm untouchable. Everybody ain't touching me right now. That was the best I've ever felt during camp man. Them guys, that's. All they do is train.
Vince SerranoEat train. So when you got there and you were training, you were untouchable. There too.
Joey LumpkinNah, or you was getting tested. What had?
The Black Cloverhappened was so true story. I do still have some film of when I was sparring out there. My coach made me not post it, but I did my thing, man. I did my thing they had me go against a Muay Thai guy, kickboxing guy he had like 20 plus fights or whatever. I was tagging him up. I was tagging his ass up, Rob Markman.
Joey LumpkinJr To the legs.
The Black CloverKim Rob Markman Jr. Exactly.
Joey LumpkinThe legs, Kim, I was like all right.
The Black CloverSo I got to wrestle you. I don't really like to watch film on someone, because I'd be a fool to think that that guy's going to fight me the same way he fought his last film, rob.
Vince SerranoMarkman Right for sure. Do you ever look at maybe any tendencies that they do? Rob Markman, I look at that. Yeah, I look at that.
The Black CloverRob Markman. That's what I be trying to watch out for the wrestling, the kicks, the elbows. Yeah, man, it's a lot. Yeah, bro, it's a lot man, that's dope.
Joey LumpkinYou went to Brazil too, because I feel like it's humbling, like you said, oh yeah. Because, as Americans, unfortunately, we got all these fucking things that are available to us and, like you said, you go there. They eat, sleep and fight.
Sean FebreThat's it.
Joey LumpkinSo you're going in there and you're like, yeah, I'm a badass in Florida. And they're like, no, no, you're in Brazil now. Motherfucker, You're going to learn today.
Vince SerranoAnd they humble you. It kind of brings you back To piggyback off of that what you were saying. Even that I was going to ask did you pick up skills out there that you were like yo? I got to use this.
Training Camp Strategies and Fighting Science
The Black CloverOh yeah, big time, oh yeah. Oh yeah, I picked up a few things and then I realized the jiu-jitsu there is different from here. I don't know man, them guys just have some strong ass hands. Bro, I'm talking about, I'm rolling with a 16-year-old. I thought he was like 22.
Joey LumpkinYeah, yeah, yeah, You're like.
The Black CloverI'm a purple belt.
Joey LumpkinHow long have you been doing construction for? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Black CloverI'm a purple belt, he's a white belt. You know, I know my jujitsu ain't all the way there, but I can handle like I can handle myself.
Joey LumpkinBut man, this white belt dude, I was teaching this guy. Why you teaching this, bro? He's just hanging out with motherfuckers. Yeah, bro, that's what I'm saying Bro. Yeah, just like you said, he trained with black belts.
The Black CloverYeah, he trained with black belts all day, bro, like they're walking around with their geese, like the geese you know the yeah. Yeah, so they're walking around with that in the heat Like it's hot. Nah, he was definitely a white brother.
Joey LumpkinYeah, yeah. Yeah, they just didn't give him his belt, but he's yeah.
Vince SerranoBecause of the infrastructure out. There was it training different? Even in the gyms Did they have AC?
Sean FebreOh, there's no.
Joey LumpkinAC bro, no, no AC bro, they don't want you on comfort.
The Black CloverBut the thing is right. They have AC, they just, but he not turning it on. Yeah, the whole mat is just slippery, but it was good man. It was that, and some Aya Saebo's every day bro it was good, it was a great humbling experience man, that's awesome, man.
Vince SerranoWhat about family? How's the family life with you? How does that work? Do you have family? Yeah, like do you have family.
The Black CloverYeah, yeah, yeah. So man, I, I family, man, my, uh, I mean my kids, is everything Honestly like when I lost your son in the ring.
Joey LumpkinYeah, that's my baby. Yeah.
The Black CloverAnd he looked at me and he just like the look on his face.
Vince SerranoI was like all right no more losing in front of you this ain't happening Right, oh shit, he felt that Exactly, and you felt that I felt that and the thing is, with that fight, I got to talk about it.
The Black CloverThat fight, that was the best person that they could put against me. Style-wise, that was the perfect matchup.
Joey LumpkinWhen was that fight?
The Black CloverThat was in July I want to say July Okay Of last year, of last year Okay, and you know I was winning the fight. But this is MMA, you know, sometimes you get caught and it's funny because he caught me on the side where I couldn't see, because my eye was cut up right and it didn't even hurt man, he just hit the right button, yeah, and I just, you know I wobbled and you know I ended up losing that fight, but I lost it and I always appreciate it.
The Black CloverI lost it at the right time Because I wasn't full of myself or anything like that, but I was like I needed to know what that felt like and I bounced back Like I felt like not that I felt good, yeah, that was the first loss, that's the main break, right, exactly Like how am I going to?
The Black Clovercome back, bro. I mean, I was this guy right here, bro. Let me remind you, I was always sore. I wasn't really hitting the gym like that, like I wasn't really like lifting weights. He hooked me up with the nutrition aspect. He was like wait, bro, you don't take anything how?
Joey Lumpkinare you not sore? Yeah, he's like how are you not sore?
The Black CloverI was like dude. I'm sore every day. He was like, what?
Joey Lumpkinlike, look right here, this is what he took, his goddamn coconut water. Because when I talk to you you're like I said what do you? Drink like while you're working out for hydration and stuff. I just drink coconut water, bro. Like what else, though? I mean, I drink a lot of water, what else? That's it. Let me send you some shit, let me get you some stuff, and then you sent me to.
The Black CloverWhat is it?
Joey Lumpkinselling nutrition.
The Black CloverYeah, and then they hooked me up with some stuff, man, and then dude. Anytime someone see me working out, I do it, but how do you make 55? How do you make 55? You know what I mean Taking the right step. So I asked you how much you weighed today.
Joey LumpkinYeah, yeah, yeah, maybe we keep that on the DL.
Sean FebreYou're talking about how much you weighed today and what you got to cut at.
The Black CloverAnd I'm like this motherfucker, You're right there, huh.
Sean FebreOh yeah, I'm right where I that's fire bro, yeah, but even after that loss, I mean, you came back and you TKO'd within three minutes and one second in the first fucking round at the NFC 173. I mean that has to be a big confidence builder, right there, right, goosebumps?
The Black CloverOh yeah, yeah and it's good the way that I did it. I went out there, dominated in his hometown, If you guys saw that fight Nasty Williams, Nasty Nate Williams, right, Good dude man, and he had his whole. I mean he had that place flooded. But I brought my people too because I knew what time it was.
Joey LumpkinWhere was that at? That was in Atlanta. Okay, was it Monday?
The Black Clovernight.
Sean FebreIt was Monday night garage.
Joey LumpkinYeah, they do a lot of fights out of that.
The Black CloverNFC. Yeah so, but I knew what time it was. Man, I would never make any excuses for losing. But the transition that I was going through with the new gym Champions of May, because I had lost my coach at Top Brothers, he passed away so I was, yeah, so I was making the whole transition. I was trying to find myself, trying to find the right gym stuff, like that right. So I wasn't Coach Ross wasn't with me, like he is now, like we still was going through that transition. But he got that nice guy out of me Like no, we ain't being nice in the cage, no more.
The Black CloverLike it finally clicked bro, my coach Frank was trying to get that out of my head for so long. And then when I met Coach Ross and Coach Ross, like, had a personal conversation with me and he really let me know. And now I understand, bro, like it's serious. Coach Ross Ross Kelly.
Vince SerranoYeah, he does Rivals.
The Black CloverYeah, that's me Shout out to Coach Ross. Yeah, coach Ross, bro, you know everybody.
Vince SerranoRivals is my first ever show, Bro. They robbed me, though.
Joey LumpkinThey robbed me of their arms, is that? When he grabbed you, you said it was in the cage. Yeah, yeah.
Vince SerranoIt's a boxing match. I want that.
Joey LumpkinNo, no, no. Bro Ross was like damn, he took it to the ground.
Vince SerranoHe's like yo, let's say MMA, motherfucker, yeah bro, I debuted against somebody in the gym and Ross's like. I actually thought you won that fight.
Vince SerranoI can't believe they just fucking gave it to the guy. Bro, this guy was bleeding, we had to pick him up. I picked him up and hugged him and everything. So I'm thinking and then they're like oh yeah, my split decision. I was like oh, here it comes, they about to get me with too, bro. That same shit happened to me because I was like, and then he's bleeding, I'm like damn, that's supposed to be an exhibition, oh man, Let me not hurt him. It's like nah man, he gonna hurt you.
Joey LumpkinYeah, he don't give a fuck about you, he's like embarrassed right now, man, but now.
Vince Serranoso you got good people around you.
The Black CloverOh yeah, that's awesome, bro, and we'll continue the story after this break.
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Vince SerranoAll right, we're back with Happy Hour, Holidays, the whole collab with Venom Nutrition and the Younger City Yacht Club. We got Forrest the Black Clover. Bro. How did you guys start the sponsorship between Venom Nutrition and the Black Clover? How did that?
Joey Lumpkincome about. Hey, you know what we're going to plug felicia on this one, my homegirl, felicia bro. Um, I met her in the gym, literally, just you know how I am. I talked to everybody, yeah, so she had a fucking pretty dope ass like native american tattoo.
Sean FebreShe was with her, a cousin I think or something there was that eos down the street uh, I'm bullshitting with him and stuff, and you know we exchanged instagrams.
Joey LumpkinI'm like, oh, you know, I I sell t-shirts at the time. This is like phase one, you know, like the OG shit from Led by no man, and we've just always been Facebook friends since then and I think I started working with damn, I can't even think of this dude's name right now. He hasn't fought in a while, but he was a bare-knuckle fighter.
Sean FebreSteve-O yeah, Steve-O Morris, actually.
Joey LumpkinOkay, Sorry yeah, I spoke to him in a minute but I started working with him and you know, felicia, she'd be watching all the time. She's on her socials and she's like, man, you should fuck with my boy Forrest. And I'm like, oh yeah, send me his info.
Vince SerranoSo I'm looking it up and shit and I'm like, oh, Black Clover, I, I don't right. I've seen that a million times.
Comeback After First Loss
Joey LumpkinSo I'm laughing, you know, and I'm looking at everything, and you were local. So I'm like, oh, hell yeah. And she's like, yeah, I sponsor him with like her bakery shit. So whenever he needs to put weight on, he calls her up oh wow, and she can drop on them fucking cookies and shit.
The Black CloverRight in the back Cocaine, brownies, donuts, all that you want to plug her.
Joey LumpkinYou know her shit better than me. Put Felicia on there with all her bakery stuff.
Vince SerranoWhat's her Instagram handle? I can't even think of it off the top of my head.
The Black CloverBecause last time I did I said Felicia's Bakery, oh I got in trouble for that. Okay, yeah, so it's not that Hi Felicia, hi Felicia.
Joey LumpkinYeah, we're plugging you with the nutrition. Yeah, no, we're going to get here anyway.
Sean FebreWe're going to tap her in, but you know what Black Clover does have a code with Venom Nutrition. If you want 15% off. Black Clover 15. Yes, sir, let's get it.
Joey LumpkinThat's on both of them, but uh, but yeah, so I started talking to him and um, we did a, uh, we did a video with my boy steve, kind of like how we met, so I put that up on youtube our first meeting with each other, and I made him like his first like fight tea and all that shit, kind of shit and um kind of just branched off from there. Uh, felicia's another plug for fucking bell creek academy wrestling.
Joey LumpkinYeah, because I sponsored them and stuff with everything made, all their like wrestling sweaters and all that shit, because he rolls with them too. He'll be in there rolling with them. Kids from high school teaching them shit too, so so you also and learning.
The Black CloverYeah, just learning too yeah, yeah.
Joey LumpkinSo, um, just like you said, small world with everything, yeah, and uh, just, he's always been very uh responsive with everything. Because I'm used to working with fighters and they'll start apologizing oh man, I didn't see this and everything. Because I'm used to working with fighters and they'll start apologizing oh man, I didn't see this and shit. Right, I'm used to it three or four days I don't hear nothing type of thing, he's always been on top of shit.
Joey LumpkinEven no, no matter how busy he is or something, he'll hit me back. We're always on top of things. So always looking out. Communication has always been great, um, and it's easy. You know, I don't we're not expecting shit from each other, it's it's kind of like a mutual thing. Yeah, hook them up, get them on the nutrition and stuff. Um, you know, everybody knows I work with five percent nutrition. Still, I hit him up. I'm like yo, I'm getting a bag this month. Pick out like two things, let me know, I'll bring it to you, I'll ship it to you he's all right, bet, send me pictures.
Joey LumpkinBoom, I'll send it to him. Get them on my stuff. I mean whatever I can do to help, yeah, I mean. So I, this is my like. I try to tell people, this is like my give back for everything. So, because I didn't have this when I was training, so I think it's cool to be able to put his face on a shirt, put his name on a shirt. Um, we actually just talked about, uh, we can't do it for this fight because it's too soon, but we're gonna get him a whole new. Get up, get him a whole new shirt and put all your sponsors on everything. You know, that's the thing too. Like I'm I'm Venom nutrition with him, but I know he's got a handful of sponsors. Let's put that on the shirts too. Yeah, get everybody on there. You know it's, it's, it's a family once you get everybody plugged together.
Joey LumpkinSo yeah, that's what I love most about everything.
Vince SerranoThat's fine. I know you said you looked to him for inspirations and now even nutrition. How's that make you feel when you got somebody like Joey and Venom?
The Black CloverMan, it's honestly, it's a blessing. I ain't going to lie.
Joey LumpkinFelicia really was that middle man, I'm going to say that yeah, she really because Shoot the plug, bro. For real.
The Black CloverHonestly, I wouldn't be taking anything if it wasn't for this guy.
Vince SerranoI wouldn't be taking anything.
The Black CloverIf it wasn't for this guy Like I wouldn't be taking anything, I'd still be sore, still not really recovering the right way. He even explained like okay, amino acids does this? You know, you need to take protein at this time. You need to take protein here. Do it after your training. You know the. What is it? The HCL, hcl.
Joey LumpkinThe HCL, the creatine.
The Black CloverMan, that the? What is it? The acl, acl, uh, the hcl, the creatine man that's a life boy.
Vince SerranoYeah, boy bro, I'm not gonna.
Joey LumpkinI'm like you're taking creatine bro. No, no, I'm not taking that, I'm like bro.
Vince SerranoSo I got a question that this is gonna I'm, you know, I'm gonna learn something from y'all right now, bro, because when I took creatine, bro, that shit gave me gas dog, so I was like I'm trying to figure out like, and then i'm'm not going to lie I kind of like got, like I blew up.
Joey LumpkinYes, I got big on it.
Vince SerranoSo I was like man I don't know, I was trying to get light on it, like how does that work?
Joey LumpkinAnd that's the biggest misconception, which, honestly, what you're saying is true, yeah, but the misconception of there's two different like basically, branches of creatine Now the HCL. Branches of creatine now, um, the hcl is a newer strand, that's they don't have a lot of research on it yet, so there's not a lot of like. Look here, here's what it does literally at southern nutrition. I'm talking to someone because I had brought someone in there for some training. Yeah and um, southern nutrition is awesome. I told them go in there, they'll hook you up. Tell them, you know me, get a full body scan, fucking everything for free, damn. And then you, then you get a big discount once you first start coming there too. Yeah, you know, and everybody in there is super knowledgeable, they're cool as fuck. They'll spend an hour with you.
Sean FebreIf you got an hour, they're going to spend an hour. Yeah, they're going to teach you.
Joey LumpkinYeah, they want to get you on shit and help you because it's all helpful. But literally I just overheard one of the scan and uh, she was like oh, her water, her water retention had went up and her body fat was a little higher. And immediately first thing he said he's like what are you taking? I started naming everything, said creatine. Creatine's big, it's good for recovery, energy, um, just everything, it's just a whole. Um it's. It's old school shit too right. Teen monohydrate, it's like the og yeah that's the one I was taking.
Joey LumpkinIt I like so. It's everywhere, and sometimes it's dirt ass cheap, because god only knows what people are putting in the shit nowadays, right, um, but yeah, so as soon as she said monohydrate, he's like nah, you gotta get on the hcl. And so my ears were like huh, what do you mean? So I'm listening and then immediately went home, started doing some research.
Vince SerranoI'm like, well, fuck, now I gotta make it yeah, yeah, I gotta get on it, and that's what a lot of females are using because it doesn't hold the water retention because, the hcl is no water retention.
Joey LumpkinSo, as you know, you know females, they hold water in areas they don't want to, right. So if you're taking monohydrate, it's going to go to where you don't want it at right and they're going to get a pooch and they're going to get mad and right, which is fair for fighters. We don't need that extra water weight. Now he's got to cut more shit. You don't need to hold it Right. But if I could give him the same benefit of strength, recovery, conditioning and shit without the water retention?
Sean Febrelet's run it. That's fine, and you know what? Talking about Black Clover, I want to play one of his highlights over here.
Joey LumpkinLet's get it.
The Black CloverWait a second, hey, that's me for real right now. No, no, no, I'll be fucking with you, right there right there, right here, bro Hammers, he caught me on a good day too. Oh, that was a good day. Yeah, that was a good day. Your hands was heavy, that was a good move, crazy, crazy.
Joey LumpkinThat's what.
Sean FebreI'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
Vince SerranoCrazy.
Sean FebreThere's one of them right there Humbling. Y'all thought the first one was actually going to be you got the platinum.
The Black CloverWhich episode is this? That's the right show, though. That's the right show. That's the right anime.
Vince SerranoYou had the platinum in there, man.
Joey LumpkinOh yeah yeah, yeah, that when he comes out, bro, you want to talk about that?
Sean FebreYeah, yeah, it's got to be this my boy playing right now. He's playing right now. He's super saying no, he went super saying right there, See you got it, man. It's gross.
Joey LumpkinLike I mean it's rough under here right now, but you got to bring a hat, but I feel like you need to stand out as a fighter, bro.
The Black CloverIt's more than just a social media. Even though I'm still building my platform, I haven't been doing this sport long at all. I think I started in 2020, maybe, and I just been active right Five years for how much you got under your shit, bro. It'd be five years. This shit, damn. Yeah, bro. That's impressive for real. Just for how much you got under your shit, bro, it'd be five years. This shit, damn. Yeah, bro. That's impressive for real. Just like you said how many fights? Yeah, what did you say?
Joey Lumpkin15 months or something.
The Black CloverWhat's your record?
Sean Febreright now your pro record.
Vince SerranoSix and one. Yeah, it's about to be seven and one, so you got 15.
The Black CloverSeven and one's coming.
Sean FebreYeah, tapology, and then the amateur fights right there, so 2021 is when you started right there.
The Black CloverThat was your first fight. That was my first fight, yeah, and then all the way I mean one year later, 57 seconds, I mean shit.
Joey LumpkinOh damn.
The Black CloverSecond round, though, and then first fights over here.
Sean FebreAnd then a lot of these. Some of these are submissions. Man Rear naked choke. Rear naked choke. Rob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal, rob.
The Black CloverMarkman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal.
Joey LumpkinRob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal. Rob Markman, the real deal.
The Black CloverRob Markman, the real deal, rob Markman. The real deal, rob Markman, the real deal. Gap, right, I've took the short notices. That was a short notice. Yeah, four, four day notice.
Vince SerranoI took that fight yeah, so you came in on the b-side yeah, b-side, exactly.
The Black CloverSo four day notice. I took that fight against a stud right kid was strong, he was a good wrestler and we went and I went up a weight class. I fought him at 175 yeah right, uh, four day notice and I still had to cut weight, obviously, uh and I mean that kid and that kid I mean that kid was tough and he hit hard, uh, but yeah, like I was saying, I I started.
The Black CloverIt's never too late to start right. But at the same time, like you look at people, look at my age, like, oh, he's 31 years old, but I'm 31, but I'm young in the sport because, I didn't start at 16 years old Right, you didn't start at eight and a half. Exactly. I don't have all that. I'm not banged up from all those fights.
Joey LumpkinAll the sparring.
The Black CloverAll the sparring exactly. So I got so many years left in this and I'm still just getting warmed up. Your record proves it.
Joey LumpkinYou know what I mean. That's the thing too. You know what I mean that's the thing too.
Vince SerranoIt's like look at the record, they talk about it. They talk about fighting legs Like you might have trucking legs but you ain't got fighting legs because you're just starting and a lot of people don't know man, but like I see it all the time I had no idea. I just started boxing Like it'll be a year, now it's a year and a half.
Vince SerranoIt's like I'm seeing it, but I'm seeing there's like three kinds of guys. There's guys who come in to get fit. There's guys who come in to beat up the guys in the gym. Right, they're like they'll never actually fight, they're going to come in on a Tuesday and a Thursday when they spar.
Vince SerranoAnd then want to try, yeah, yeah, and then there's the actual fighters, right, the ones who are taking this thing seriously, and so, but those other two guys, those two, like you, can get caught in between, right, you can get caught in between the first and the second guys, right, because those are the guys that you're fighting all the time. Like you're sparring with those guys and putting the sparring hours will fuck you up.
Joey LumpkinYou know what I'm saying.
Vince SerranoOr you just put in the hours with the real guys that you know, like the guys that you're training with, and they know how to spar, they know how to keep it 70%. They're not trying to knock you out, exactly.
Joey LumpkinYou know what I'm saying? They're trying to have you work and that is a big fucking difference between those three.
The Black CloverHell yeah, there's guys who leave their careers right in the gym man, all of my even though it was minor injuries all Injuries came from guys that's just starting, have no experience. It never comes from the guys that's been they just throwing wild.
Joey LumpkinYeah, bro, they're just trying to fuck you up for no reason. Exactly, exactly.
The Black CloverSo I'm very cautious now with who I spar with, because I'm at that point where, honestly, I'm in my prime. Dc started and he's a legend in the UFC now. Dc started technically his MMA career at 30. Obviously, he was an Olympic wrestler and stuff like that, but he started his actual MMA career and became a legend in the sport at 30. I started 20, like 28 years old.
Vince SerranoThat's fine, you still got time yeah exactly, I got so much motivation.
Joey LumpkinYou're as old as you feel. Fuck that number, the way that you put it.
Vince SerranoThe way you was. Oh boy, that was crazy, bro the way you was.
Joey LumpkinOh boy, that was crazy Bro it's so different and before I even met him, I only saw videos right Fucking. I only saw him just hammering people.
Vince SerranoYeah.
Joey LumpkinAnd then I met him and I'm like damn, he's so quiet.
Sean FebreHe's chill, yeah, he's like hey, what's up, man, how you doing.
Vince SerranoI know this guy right here I know this guy.
The Black CloverBro, you did some work in a yeah, how was that? That was shot by Big Brooke. It was just showing the comeback. Like bro, I'm lifting weights. Now I'm taking the right nutrition now.
Joey LumpkinOh, that's a two-minute film. Yeah, yeah, yeah, where you're pulling the truck. Yeah, yeah, that one, yeah the truck.
The Black CloverSo I'm showing, like bro I lost, but how am I going to come back? You know what I mean. Like bro, like you know, I lost, but how am?
Vince SerranoI going to come back.
The Black CloverYou know what I mean. Like, and I wanted to show everyone, bro, like that fight didn't like prove anything, it didn't define like who I was as a person or as a fighter, like I know I belong in this sport, right. And so I was like, man, let's do this. Like, let's show these guys like I'm not done, I'm nowhere near finished, because they start counting you out when you lose your fight and stuff like that. I didn't get offered a title fight immediately after I lost. It was kind of like, let's give someone else an opportunity. It was like, bro, I should have been first up, wow, and then I lost a little support, but now they start coming back now that I got back.
Joey LumpkinThat's okay, man Real ones stay.
The Black CloverExactly.
Vince SerranoReal ones stay, but now they start coming back, now that I got back, that's okay, man, real one, exactly, exactly, like you know what it is real, how you feel about like that.
Sean FebreWe talked a lot to, even after he lost, yeah, yeah yeah, him talks a lot.
Joey LumpkinI'm like, yeah, like yeah, for me. I was eight and one and I quit that loss. Fucked me in my brain, yeah, and my shoulder pulled out. And I quit that loss. Fucked me in my brain, yeah, and my shoulder pulled out, and I'm just like I can't do this. I can't take that fucking loss and I didn't want him to get that mindset because I know how good he is, yeah, and if anything, that's that fall 10 times, stand up 11.
Vince SerranoAnd then you don't fall after that. Right.
Sean FebreBecause, now, he knows. And there ain't no going backwards. How did you overcome that mindset? Because I mean, once you lose, once the fighting world is real critical on just losing period, how did you overcome that?
The Black CloverMan. I just honestly, I just had the right support around me. Like I said, after that loss, seeing my son's face, seeing how my family was, everyone was just very high spirited. It was like, bro, you was winning the fight. You got called that the fight. You got called, that's it. You got called. Joey sent me a message telling me to keep my head up reading those type of messages. But I don't beat myself up because I took plenty of losses in life, plenty A lot. So even with that fight, losing that, I was never going to lose the motivation to keep fighting. That was going nowhere.
Vince SerranoThat's fine. After doing that, my bad. After doing that, basically, the comeback, the story, right yeah, do you want to do more of that, more film Do?
Sean Febreyou want to be on Youngest in the Yacht Club.
Vince SerranoYou know how to get y'all there.
The Black CloverJust ask him, bro. I wasn't lying man, I'll have y'all do it.
Vince SerranoI mean, this is your first podcast, right, yeah, yeah, I mean, how is it feeling? It feels good man, it feels good you know what, though?
The Black CloverIt's because my guy Bruce he be putting the camera in my face like bro, you got to start doing this", and that's what it is.
Vince SerranoRob Markman. Yeah, I was going to ask how do you feel like now? Because before fighters just thought they had to fight and that was going to come. How do you feel about now? You basically got to be a content creator, Rob Markman.
The Black CloverYou have to, you have to. I've been putting out more content. I've been trying and we're starting to do better we With the camera phone.
Joey LumpkinYeah, with the camera phone. And. Big Brooke was getting kicked out of the cage for filming with the camera, but now he's doing it the right way. He got that Sony now Exactly, oh yeah, exactly, you even see him come up with you right.
Sean FebreYeah, the same kind of thing.
Vince SerranoOh, yeah, like the content creator with you, right? Yeah, that's fire, bro. That's fine, rob Markman Bro. Obviously you got the fight on the 21st right. Yes, sir, rob Markman, and that's CFFC right, no, that's Combat Night, june 21st.
The Black CloverRob Markman. Combat Night, the homie.
Vince SerranoMitch Rob Markman. Okay, so fight day. What's the preparation? What's the mental going in there Fucking?
Sean Febrethree bitches.
The Black CloverRob Markman I probably have the worst preparation ever, dude.
Vince SerranoReally yeah, bro, a fight day.
The Black CloverA fight day, I probably have the worst.
Vince SerranoSponge bath.
The Black CloverBro, I wake up at like 6 or 7 in the morning and just start eating. I'm eating, dude. I'm probably eating until like, honestly, probably until like 4 pm. Wow. And that's just like eating, like I'm eating Now, I do cut out the dessert, like the desserts and stuff like that. That's on the day before. Oh, you're trying to get your weight up as well, yeah yeah, so I am trying to get my weight up, but that so the day before it's all like you know leg weight carbs, stuff like that.
The Black CloverYeah, but the day of man, I'm eating everything, bro, like I'm eating everything. Maybe I have a protein shake, I have steak, I have Chicken Chicken, yeah, baked potatoes, but I'm eating, I'm eating, I'm eating.
Vince SerranoWhy are you eating? Why are you eating like that? It's a build weight right.
The Black CloverWell, not only to build weight, but it's my comfort zone. I love food and while I'm cutting, it's so much stuff that I have to cut out that I can't eat.
Joey LumpkinRob Markman. That's the hate you bring to the cage All the food you've been sitting out there, rob Markman. Right, exactly, rob Markman. The reason why I'm asking this is because my second fight.
Vince SerranoThe first one, they robbed me. The second one, I lost. I felt drained. I felt like I didn't replenish the same way I did for the first one. So I'm learning from you. It's like okay, because the first one I had a steak, vegetables, all those things. The second one I ain't going to lie, I had a pizza, see.
The Black CloverBut the way I do it is, I go full liquid first, like the day of weigh-ins. It's all liquid.
Vince SerranoYeah.
The Black CloverI eat something solid, but it might be like, for example, an acai bowl, like oatmeal.
Vince SerranoAfter you weigh in.
Joey LumpkinYeah, like I'm eating like light, but it's always the liquid first until I get full. Right.
The Black CloverAnd then that's why I wake up so early the next day and I eat, and I'm eating, and I'm eating, but I get my nap in that same day. Honestly, I don't feel nerves until I start getting my hands wrapped. I don't care who you are, if you You're going to feel nervous. My last fight, man, I had some nerves, but it was like man, I'm just ready to fuck this guy up yeah man, it was like you can ask my coaches.
The Black CloverMan, I was like man, my aura is slipping out, bro. I got to get my hands on the guy. I got to get my hands on the guy.
Joey LumpkinI got to get my hands on the guy.
The Black CloverI got to get my hands on the wait. You got to wait to get in there.
Sean FebreI mean, when you're eating that much, man, you're not worried about getting punched in the stomach, and then everything just comes out. No, no.
The Black CloverNo, not the way. I mean you haven't eaten, Not the way. Yeah, not the way.
Sean FebreWell, you just said the day of the fight, from 7 am till fight time. Eating, eating, eating yeah.
Vince SerranoYeah, but he probably up that whole week and I'm not and also, I'm not eating.
The Black Cloverlike I said, I'm not throwing down a pizza.
Joey LumpkinThat's like I'm not throwing down a pizza. That's what's going to give you gas.
The Black CloverYeah, yeah, my grandmother said it too, she said last time you had the steak, this time you had the pizza. Man. Go with pasta bro.
Sean FebreSo that's basically it Carbs and protein. And vegetables too, right, yeah, absolutely.
Vince SerranoRob Markman. So when you were up until that point. You're the main event. You're getting your hands wrapped. What you playing in your ear, man?
The Black CloverMan, I'm playing trap music. Rob Markman, Some Dave.
Sean FebreShitty, shit too.
The Black CloverWhatever's playing on right now, then I you know my coaches. They'll be talking to me and, like you know, giving me the advice. It's like you know you got this you gotta go out there and do you, you gotta. My coaches are more like. It's crazy to say like I'm confident in myself, but my coaches are more confident. It's like they see something that I don't see. So it's like the confidence that they have.
Joey LumpkinAs a fighter, you have that self-doubt. You're your own worst enemy, right exactly, and they don't want to hype you up like, oh you gold, you got this in the bag Because they want you to still fucking pull that shit from the heart.
Vince SerranoYou still have to do it, but they're like. You got this.
Joey LumpkinLet's fights aren't won on paper they were won in that ring, yeah, in that cage he said trap music, bro.
Sean FebreThis is on the radio. We need some dumb doll for something it says it right, oh, this is rap. I called it the trap tape. Yeah, we got a white guy back here behind the camera. I'm Cuban, I'm Cuban, I'm Cuban, dog. That's because you like skin, bro. Hey, you're white Joey.
Joey LumpkinWhat the fuck are you talking about?
Vince SerranoI don't identify as white. I'm tattooed, he's tattooed. I'm identified as tattooed. Yo, when you're in there and, before we go into the next segment, when you're in there, right?
Sean FebreNow I know why you got the tattoos. Dog.
Vince SerranoTrying to cover that skin, let's say you work on a game plan and then you start facing adversity Like certain shit. Just now you got to change it up. What's going through your head at that time?
The Black CloverOh, no, I just listen to the coaches, my coaches. So the last fight I got into a bad, bad position and I didn't know what to do at the time. All I did was walk over towards my coaches and then I just heard what he said and I just followed the direction as an amateur.
The Black CloverI got knocked on my ass twice by my boy thor when we fought and uh, I, it was a possibility that I could have lost that fight, but again, I just listened to the coaches like I, I'm just calm in there, man. It's something about, bro, it's very important Because I don't see everything. They see things that I don't see. I'm just comfortable in there, man.
Vince SerranoHave you ever been to a fight without a coach?
The Black CloverNah, that'd be crazy. I would never More shit happening bro.
Vince SerranoBro, my coach didn't show up.
Joey LumpkinI had to leave the gym. I had to leave the gym I was like oh hell, nah.
Vince SerranoThen they got mad at me.
Joey LumpkinThey act like they don't know me. Rob Markman Jr, didn't you have a guy that didn't show up too? Yeah, that's what.
Vince SerranoI'm saying From my coach, rob Markman, at this gym they put me through. They're like we don't know about influencer boxing, we just know about boxing so you can set up against these influencers, but we're going to teach you like boxers. Like, all right, they put me in Rivals Debut. Wow, go through. All right, here it is the second fight. I was supposed to fight an influencer. The fight got canceled, the promotion got canceled, something happened. So they're like hey, we're going to put you in WCFL against this dude. I'm like all right, who is this dude? They're like we don't know. Six days notice, we don't know. So I'm like all right. Then, all of a sudden, bro, I'm in there, bro, and I'm not gonna lie man, since they know the train of roll too.
Vince SerranoBro, I go into the way to this guy and I'm like, okay, we good, we get into the cage and he must have been eating his proteins Imposter. He looked like Drago when they got in there. I'm like eh, he blew it and I'm telling you I'm feeling drained. Yo, my boy's like man, this is skinny.
Joey LumpkinHe ate your food too.
Vince SerranoYo he was like, my boy was like yo, this is the skinniest I've ever seen since you came out of prison. Great, but I, yo, I ended up tearing my ACL in that fight. Oh damn, the dude broke my ribs, right. It was a good fight, but I made it to the end. Yeah, I made it to the end, but that was the one where I was like but yo, when we come back, man, we're going to ask you some more questions, especially about, like the fight. We want to get a little bit more promo on the fight and then just a little, you know, just, a little bit more into the black clover bro.
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Vince SerranoYo, we're back on Happy Hour Holidays. We got my dog Forrest the black clover. We got my dog Joey Lumpkin from Venom Nutrition, the white clover the white clover.
Joey LumpkinI said I'm not white dude the tattooed.
Vince Serranoclover Tattooed clover and then we got Vince Serrano, from Youngest in the Yacht clover.
Joey LumpkinWe here, man, we got a Cuban clover in the back.
Vince SerranoAnd we got the Cuban clover too, Of course, doing all the work back here, give me a shovel.
Joey LumpkinJoe, you said you wanted to make sure that we I ain't trying to get beat up by my Spanish girls. Either. Shout out to Felicia for Felicia Cakes and Treats Okay, girls. Either, uh, shout out to felicia for felicia cakes and treats okay, this is that's our plug on instagram so instagram me and my boy, don't fuck it up.
The Black CloverThank you for sponsoring me yeah, big facts.
Joey LumpkinThey were like for bulking up my boy yes they were you say one more time. I'm gonna put it up on the screen it's gonna be, uh, felicia f-e-l-i-C-I-A, yep, cakes, cakes and treats. And you got an underscore in the front and the back of that. So boom, here we go, bang, get her in there.
Sean FebreThere it is, there we go.
The Black CloverDamn, that's that Bokin.
Sean FebreOh, there he is my dog, black Clover MMA. Oh and even Venom Nutrition right up front.
Vince SerranoThat's fire, bro.
Sean FebreYou got that.
Joey LumpkinWolter's vest on. Yeah, you need to pull up that Big Brooks of your walkout from your last fight real quick.
Vince SerranoBig Brook visuals man. Shout out to Big Brook man. I see him all the time.
Joey LumpkinYeah, pull, oh yeah, you're on Big Brook visuals. Well it's a His walkout, just so you can see how he comes out. It's a collab, right?
Sean FebreYeah, it is. So you guys tell me which one it is.
Joey LumpkinMy boy signing shit right there. I was going to say he's probably on all these. That's the walkout right there. Look at that picture?
The Black CloverWhich one? Which one? The one in the? Oh, the chains bro.
Sean FebreThat's just the walkout, so he's wearing a mask right now. He's chained from the neck to the arms, says Team Reaper About to be on lease. He's looking like he's about to knock somebody out.
Joey LumpkinI'm not fighting you. You're walking out like that. I'm walking out. I'm going to tap the bottom of the cage, I'm out. This was before he went Super Saiyan 3. Yeah, this was his last fight up in Georgia. Yeah.
Sean FebreAtlanta. That's crazy, man. Nfc 173.
Joey LumpkinThat's that 6-1 right there. What are we doing for 7-1? Y'all know how I do, man you getting anything.
The Black CloverYeah, you're getting something.
Joey LumpkinThat's the thing.
The Black CloverI don't know what people look forward to. No more Do they look for the entertainment part or the fight, because you know how I'm coming out.
Joey LumpkinI'm coming out with something. I don't remember what promotion it was, but they gave you shit one time for doing your hair with the clovers and stuff.
The Black CloverSo what happened? Why would they give a fuck about?
Sean Febrethat.
Joey LumpkinMy boy come out wild.
The Black CloverWhat happened was I ran out of time to do my hair, so I had to use some spray on for my hair. So when I fought the spray on was coming out. But I finished the fight soon enough for them not to really complain about it. So I had to get in and get out of that fight.
Sean FebreBut yeah, that's all that happened, so you were thinking you were blinding him with the spray.
The Black CloverWell, not even blinding him, but it was getting on him Like it got on his chest once. They see me do a takedown and stuff like that.
Joey LumpkinBut the fight ended pretty quick. They were like you can't do that. He's like don't worry, I'm going to finish it in this round, don't even worry about it, you want me to finish it now.
Sean FebreOkay.
The Black CloverWas that the first?
Sean Febreround knockout. Is that the?
The Black Cloverone that was a first round knockout. Yeah, that Short-term and long-term goals for the Black Clover. So, short-term and long-term, actually, ufc. Once I make it to the UFC, I want to try to get one of them titles and I'm going to get one of them titles, like you said, speaking of existence, oh yeah, and then after that it's all done, when I'm done with everything, I want to open up a gym start training people.
The Black CloverI mean, honestly, I train people now, yeah, uh, but I want to be able to like focus on just that, like I want to be.
Joey LumpkinHey, this is all I do if you go on ufc, like what is your, what is your favorite? Um, I guess weight class, like what do you? What do you, what's your best?
The Black Cloverso I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna try. I am going to go in as a 55er but I believe I'm going to try to bulk up to 170, because I felt when I fought at 170, I felt strong, but I also felt like I was a little underweight and you know how I walk around.
Joey LumpkinYeah, yeah, yeah, out of count.
The Black CloverSo I don't want to keep doing those major weight cuts. But we'll see, man, because now I pretty much have the nutrition part down.
Joey LumpkinYeah, you handle it good.
The Black CloverYeah, exactly, you've always handled weight cuts and shit, I'll go in at 55 and then we'll see what happens.
Vince SerranoWhat do you walk around at?
Sean FebreI was wondering the same shit, because you're saying 155. You don't look like you're 155. You look more than 155.
The Black CloverI more than 155. I still got to cut. I still got a lot of weight. The heaviest I get up to is 205. I cut from 205.
Sean FebreWhy not fight in those weight classes? I'm just curious. You already went up a weight class before.
Joey LumpkinBecause him at 205, for perspective, him at 205, let's say he walked in there because that's his heaviest. These motherfuckers are fighting at 205. They're walking on that bitch 235. They're cutting as well, that's why when he's saying, when you cut 155, he would basically not even saying you so give no codes away, but a 155 fighter going to walk into that cage probably 170s. He'll get that 15 pounds back in a fucking day.
The Black CloverSo 55 is usually usually. Somebody can quote me if I'm wrong, but correct me if I'm wrong but 55 is usually cut from about 185. If you're fighting at 145, you usually cut from like 170, 175. You never no one usually fights around and walk around you still have to cut about 10, 15 pounds usually, but me at 205, would never happen.
Joey LumpkinThat's heavy weight. That's heavy weight.
The Black CloverThat's John Jones. That's heavyweight. Rob Markman Jr. Yeah, but yeah, like heavy Rob Markman Jr, I'm tired. Rob Markman Jr, that's Jon Jones, old weight class. Back in the day UFC didn't have open weight class. You fight whoever, stuff like that. But they don't have that anymore. But 205, them guys are cutting from 235.
Vince SerranoRob Markman Jr. 225 too. That's what I did. Yo first one was I'm 225, but the guy's 6'5".
Joey LumpkinYeah, see, yeah, that's a thing too. Yeah, I was like yo, oh yeah, height too.
Vince SerranoYeah, like yo, you need to get down to light, heavy like even lower than that. Right and then the second one. I went to 195. Right.
Joey LumpkinAnd.
Vince SerranoI swear that bitch was 225 when we walked there.
Joey LumpkinSo I was like yo.
Vince SerranoThis shit is crazy. What is going?
Joey Lumpkinon, I would walk like 143, 145 max to fight 135. And everybody's like oh, you know, like right now I weigh fucking 190. They're like oh why don't you still do that? I'm like bitch 190?.
Sean FebreI'm 5'4". You know how big motherfuckers are at 190?
Joey LumpkinI'll be fighting someone a foot taller than you? Why the fuck do they?
Sean Febreeven have weigh-ins if the people at the time of the fighting are weighing more than what they weighed in at. But what I'm saying is maybe this is a hot take here. Why not have the weigh-in literally right before the fight and then get the fight started when they're at their weigh-in weight?
The Black CloverSome promotions do that Especially for boxing.
Joey Lumpkinthey'll have no water clauses and all kinds of shit like that too.
Vince SerranoNo rehydrations, I understand, yeah, they'll have like no water clauses and all kinds of shit like that, no rehydrations, yeah, yeah, but it, it, I? I understand why. Because, bro you, why they don't do it, or why they do do it. I understand why they have weight classes, because it's hard to cut that weight, like it's not easy and to for you to. You really got to know that you're gonna make stuff and if you take a weight cut and you don't do it the right way, bro, it will affect you.
Joey LumpkinIt's a science for sure. Yeah.
Vince SerranoSo it's all about, I feel like it's professionalism. There's a thing If you miss weight, you're not professional.
Sean FebreYeah, but then the next day you go over there, or two days later, they're weighing in but not weighing in. They're 30 pounds overweight.
Joey LumpkinYou have the opportunity to do that too.
Vince SerranoBut you see what mcgregor when that happened to him, right?
Joey Lumpkinhe fucking put on too much weight.
Sean FebreHe got his ass handed to him because he ate too much he went too far yeah, it's such a obedience yeah
Vince Serranoit's a science to it right away, yeah and that's what a lot of people don't understand. They don't understand like the science behind is. Like yo like drinking the the water loading you know I'm saying like that.
Joey LumpkinThat was something that was new to me.
Vince SerranoYeah, like well not even just like drinking a gallon, a half a gallon, then then the day before hitting a half gallon and pissing out and being understanding that like eight pounds is gonna come off like from where, and it it's like all water, you know. So it's a whole like science.
Sean FebreSo when you're drinking all that water, I mean that's it. You're not eating food, you're not doing anything else, you're just drinking water.
The Black CloverIt just depends on how the person cuts weight Like I don't like water, in a way, I'm honest, yeah, that's crazy. The first day you got to drink two gallons, I think the next day you got to drink two gallons the day after that.
Vince SerranoYou got to drink one more gallon the day before you got to drink a half a gallon it's too much, man it's too much.
Sean FebreI don't do that. You might eat no food during this time you can eat but it's very light.
Vince SerranoNo, no, that's going to stay.
Joey LumpkinYou don't want that either.
Vince SerranoSo you're like so that's what they told me. They're like hey, man, the best way to do this is this yeah.
The Black CloverI'm like, okay, the best way to do it is Fenton Nutrition I like it the plug.
Joey LumpkinBut you forgot, with Black Clover 15 as a discount, discount go yeah, there we go, I actually I remember when, um, when I got you on this shit and you started getting into a regiment with all the, the carbohydrates?
Joey Lumpkinyeah creatine and shit. My boy hit me again, you know, because crazy hours and shit. He knows I hit him right back like 2 am. He hit me in the middle of the night one time. Yo, my boy, I feel fucking dangerous and I'm like, yeah, he's like, bro, this is a game changer. He's like I honestly feel dangerous right now and then that's when you, I think that's when he went to a monday night fight.
Sean FebreYeah so did you like see someone at the gas station? You were like I'm gonna fuck this guy, I feel dangerous. What happened was?
Joey Lumpkinyou get that feeling, though, man, when you get that comfort level and you, in that spot, you're're like I'm fucking, we're going to be untouchable.
The Black CloverOh yeah, get that mindset. No, but in that situation I got to a certain weight and I usually feel like, oh, like damn bro, that you drain when you cut, yeah, yeah. But this time when I stepped on the scale, I was less than that weight. And that's I'm on my phone yelling.
Joey LumpkinI'm like fuck yeah, Bro.
Vince Serranowhat are some of the hobbies outside of fighting? What do you do outside of fighting and besides work? I know you stretch out.
Joey LumpkinHe's a painter, an artist, I'm an artist.
The Black CloverOutside of that. Honestly, man, it's just anime. I'm watching anime. I uh spending time with my boys. I got my my oldest. He does like uh soccer. He does bjj uh, jiu-jitsu, uh he you got two boys yeah, okay, yeah so I got him doing that. Uh, really, man. Uh, most of my focus is just fighting, really, because I'm trying to get to that certain spot.
Vince SerranoYeah, you live, breathe, eat shit, that is your hobby? Yeah, well, shit, this is a profession, but he just yeah, yeah.
The Black CloverIt's two careers, man. It's two careers that I'm balancing right now. Yeah.
Vince SerranoYou listen to any. What do you listen for Like motivation music, podcasts. What's in the playlist right?
The Black Clovernow. So there is some, y'all going to New York.
Vince SerranoYeah, we need that, we need to Happy holidays.
Sean FebreCome on.
The Black CloverI do listen to some motivations. I'm pretty sure it's Nike, but they have these quotes and these motivations and I listen to that whenever I got them long drives and I'm not watching anime or something.
Vince SerranoOn them long drives. Do you ever feel like you do a lot of thinking?
The Black CloverOh yeah, Probably your best thinking maybe Most definitely.
Vince SerranoYeah, most definitely. What do you think?
The Black CloverIs that watching? I'm putting like a UFC fight I'm looking at-.
Joey LumpkinHe's not watching while he's driving, though. Disclaimer.
The Black CloverYeah, yeah, yeah, this is all allegedly yeah yeah, he's listening.
Sean FebreHe's listening the commentary, for example right now.
The Black CloverWhat's going on? I've been thinking a lot. What am I going to do for this walkout? That's been what I've been thinking about. I've already thought about my opponent and stuff like that, but I was like man, this walkout got to be fire because I'm doing it on one of the biggest promotions in Florida.
Joey LumpkinCombat Fight Nights is big for Florida Combat Night is huge man for Florida.
The Black CloverI was like man. I got to do something crazy.
Vince SerranoAnd this is your first right. This is my first with Mitch man.
The Black CloverI've been trying to get on this car for like four years bro.
Vince SerranoIs it at the fairground? No, it's going to be at the Coliseum. The.
The Black CloverColiseum.
Joey LumpkinOkay, that's awesome. That's a dope place. It was fire last time I went. I brought Britton Hart with me. That's fire, bro.
Vince SerranoWhen Stephanie was fighting.
The Black CloverOh yeah, I.
Vince SerranoSo you're thinking about what show you're going to put on for him yeah.
The Black CloverSo it's the show, it's the walkout, it's the music.
Sean FebreYo, I got the best song for you dog. You ready for it, you ready for it?
Joey LumpkinWhat you about to put on this damn screen Watch, watch, watch, watch, oh shit. Who dat mean? Ayyyy, it's about flexing my wrists.
Vince SerranoOh.
Joey LumpkinOkay, making them dips from the best that we get, bringing that chip at the table this year Winning the national championship.
Vince SerranoHey Talking to conference dog.
Joey LumpkinHey, we can have him on the mic Pushing me at the press conference dog. Like how many?
Vince Serranocarats you got in your ring. Now they're against us in confidence. Dog, really feel like we can win every day, got shit.
Joey LumpkinI got to accomplish y'all.
Vince SerranoOnly got time to stick to the plan. I ain't got time for the bullshit.
Sean FebreHey, yeah no, we got it there, bro, hey my boy. Vince has already had walkouts.
Vince SerranoYeah, yeah, we got that. We got a little time for you. Hey, let me know I'm down, bro, I'm down, let me know I wasn't trying to plug you, I was like is he going?
The Black Cloverto put on a future. You already knew it, I did it twice as an amateur, so I don't see why not as a pro.
Vince SerranoOh yeah, I've walked out people before. Actually, in BKFC my song's been played for walkouts all the time.
Joey LumpkinOh yeah, I remember you telling me that.
Sean FebreNot that one specifically, though Not that one though. So that would be the first time.
Joey LumpkinThat's a restaurant. Yeah, yeah, that's a restaurant. That's a restaurant. That's a restaurant, that's a restaurant. Yeah, that's a restaurant. I'm like this motherfucker at International Mall and I'm like shopping it up. That's his car. He's like. Let me just cut this real quick.
Vince SerranoYeah, let me do this real quick.
Joey LumpkinHold on, that's the I kind of plugged everybody on Instagram, so then you can kind of see who these people are and shit. And send them a text message too, just to get everybody talking, these people, these people, get these people in here. The.
Vince SerranoClover Clan.
Joey LumpkinThe Clover Clan. The Clover Clan, the Clover Gang.
Sean FebreThe.
Vince SerranoClover Gang.
The Black CloverBro you like is the clothes.
Vince SerranoYou got a logo. Do you have a logo for me?
Sean FebreYeah, yeah, he's like looking out for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I tried to find it so I could put it up here, but I couldn't find it on your Insta. But we got to get that. Yeah, we got to get his, we're going to get his clothes and everything right.
Joey LumpkinBecause, like you're not on here, you can't wear this type of shit.
Sean FebreRight, right, exactly. We're going to get him. We'll get him a whole new getup. We'll put everybody on there, put him on there, make sure you can get it out.
Vince SerranoYeah, that's fire, it's going to be tight for combat nights.
Joey LumpkinMitch is the guy that runs that.
The Black CloverAnd he's fucking cool.
Joey Lumpkinas in bro, he sent me the link for the tickets which anybody who wants tickets to this fight. We're going to have this posted up before the fight. If anybody wants tickets for this shit, hit my boy, get him on Instagram because he's going to send you a special link to get these fight tickets. I talked to Mitch. I'm, like yo, making sure that you get your money.
Sean FebreIt's right there, can you? And you know, like I talked to Mitch, I'm, like yo, making sure that you get your money.
Joey LumpkinIt's right there, right there, right. Can you go through that? There it is. What tickets we got left? We got anything left on here? Oh, okay, we got some tickets. Yeah, we got some tickets.
Vince SerranoYeah, so go to the Black Clover, and then it's all.
Sean FebreVIP though.
Vince SerranoAnd then you got to get it through your link, right?
Sean FebreYeah, you can get it.
Joey LumpkinYeah, that'd be the best way, that's the only way, only through his link.
The Black CloverThat's the way to get it.
Sean FebreSo it's on blackclover underscore MMA, and then you click the link that he has right there and then you go. Tickets for.
Vince SerranoJune 20th. Yeah, man, you need to hit the follow back button real quick, y'all.
Sean FebreThat, yeah, man, yeah, that's crazy.
Joey LumpkinWell, I mean I don't go on this profile. No, that's okay. Oh, this is Creepy Profile. No, it's.
Sean FebreHappy Hour Holidays Profile. No, I'm fucking with you, yeah, yeah yeah, so you go there, you go to the event type T-I-T-E and, yeah, you can order there. Yes, sir.
Joey LumpkinWe got Big Brooks and he filled out the paperwork.
The Black CloverYeah yeah, we got him in the back now, yeah, yeah, I know what time it is.
Joey LumpkinFuck yeah.
The Black CloverBusiness casual dressed to impress, yeah don't worry, I come and get him. I don't give a shit, don't worry about that. Don't worry about that.
Joey LumpkinDon't worry about that.
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Vince SerranoI mean you better go. That's a small print, Just buy the damn tickets show up, pull up it's.
Sean FebreThey're getting there, pull up it's going to be good fights.
Joey LumpkinHonestly, if you check out their reels too, they always got crazy shit going on. People walking up to fights with dogs in their hands, swords, all that shit Swords, bro.
Sean Febrethis card is stacked bro I'm talking about, you're going to want to be there for the first fight.
The Black CloverWho are you fighting? Who are you fighting A guy named Paulo Gaines? Oh shit.
Sean FebreBrazilian Jiu Jitsu guy. Is he anywhere remotely related to Apollo Creed?
Vince SerranoNo, Paulo, paulo P-A-U-L-O.
Joey LumpkinPaulo, oh you said Paulo, paulo, paulo, I told you that's his light skin Is he anywhere related to Apollo Creed?
Vince SerranoYeah, his name is Jonathan.
Joey LumpkinA&P is the same shit. Yeah, his name is Adonis Adonis.
Vince SerranoCreed. You know, apollo Creed's not even a real person, right? Yeah, I know.
Sean FebreHey, but tell people in Philly that all right.
Joey LumpkinWhen they're talking about hey papua.
Sean FebreWhy are you getting involved?
Joey Lumpkinwith that crowd.
Final Thoughts on Support and Success
Vince SerranoThey made a statue of them I'm not going to lie Of Rocky. They made a statue of Rocky.
Sean FebreBut Rocky's not a real person. No, he's not. He's real. His name's not.
Vince SerranoRocky yeah, it is Yo. Before we wrap it up, what's the main message you got? You know what I'm saying, Both of y'all. What's the main message that y'all want to get across? As far as for people, fans, all those things, what do you want them to know about the Black Clover?
The Black CloverFor me it's more of continue to support me as I continue this journey. It doesn't stop here. I'm going to keep growing and the people that's been following me they see where I came from, outside of just family. They seen where I started, how much I've improved and I think it's amazing when you have that circle and then you become and you get to where you're trying to get to. So I think the people that's going to be in my circle is the ones that's been there since I lost and that's continued to follow me you got any advice for the youngsters that are trying to come up in?
The Black CloverMMA. Just be committed. You got to want it. You got to want it. Man, I feel like and I talk to a lot of young guys, a lot of guys that's coming up or trying to fight I give advice and I tell them, like, there are certain things that you have to do. There's going to be times where you can't talk to this person every day. You got to cut out the drinking. You got to. You know, you got to be disciplined with this, bro, like, if you're not disciplined you're going to have setbacks. And, like I said, I started late, but I started for certain reasons. I wasn't as focused as I should have been. I knew I had distractions and I didn't have the income to do it. So now there's multiple ways to get the income there's. The social media aspect alone helps this new generation to be able to start whenever they want to.
The Black CloverSo I think that they have more support than you know when I could have started.
Joey LumpkinFollow Black Clover 2 on OnlyFans.
The Black CloverThat might be coming soon. Oh shit, hey, listen, that might be coming soon.
Sean FebreI ain't going to lie You'll be knocking bitches out.
Vince SerranoKnocking bitches out on the old way they make money dog One, punch man One punch man.
Joey LumpkinHell dog Jello wrestling.
Vince SerranoPutting them in that cage them up, hey, oh hell.
Joey LumpkinNo, I'm sorry for that I'm trying to get that 10 off code yeah, I'm gonna be the manager yeah, what about you, joey man?
Vince Serranowhat's what I know?
Joey Lumpkinyou support, you know, oh man honestly, for me it's just like support people around you. Yeah, you know, like this room, the people that we got in here and shit like straight up, there ain't no money involved between any of us right now it's just love we all burn each other don't talk about for happy hour holidays happy hour, holidayscom and then click shop no, but like you know, it's not.
Joey LumpkinThere's no for me, like in my brain there's not money, motivation type of thing. This is strictly love, like I love doing this shit. I love working with people that have the same mindset as me, yeah, and just just being around people that are supportive.
Joey LumpkinYeah, like you said you know you, you had a loss. There's still people here that are standing next to you and you got other people that fucking walked out. That people have fucking walked out. That's on them, and that's when you know it's real or not. When you lose those fights or you lose that promotion, or whatever times are tough, people walk from you. You fucking know who's actually there for you.
Vince SerranoSo yeah, I mean even requesting me on. I'm not, I mean even though we're in the same studio, bro, just being like yo Vince get over here, kind of gelling like the major connect right there. You know, I'm saying I'll meet him one other time and fucking.
Joey LumpkinI saw his video. I fucking dm'd you immediately how's that bro?
Sean Febreyeah, yeah, it's little shit like that and I don't do that for recognition.
Joey LumpkinYeah, I do that because I do genuinely care for sure, because it's fucking. It means something to me.
Vince SerranoI know you personally yeah, are you all right? Yeah, you know, I love that, bro, and I think that's huge because a lot of people don't. They don't it't. It's not all about that. There's always some hidden agenda, bro, I got hit up yesterday. It's like hey, I want to be on your podcast. Like yeah, it's 500 bucks. They're like, no, I don't want to be on your podcast Like yeah, what happened Yo?
Joey Lumpkinyou take payments.
Vince SerranoYeah, like yo they think this shit is free, bro, like they think. Bro, like yo sponsorships, like hey, sponsor me, like hey, we got packages Then you don't hear from them, yeah, or the people who lose He'd still be trying to buy shit from me. Yeah, he's like yo. Let me know how much it is. Yeah, bro.
Sean FebreLike fucking bro, my hey, for real though.
Joey LumpkinYeah, less they cash at from me I said for what he's like to pay back on the tickets. I'm like bitch, you're not paying for these wow I'm doing this to support you. Like I don't care about the money, like this is. This is because I want to be there for you. I want to watch you win you got to have people in your fucking circle that want you to win, not people that say they want you to win, right, because everybody in this room.
Sean FebreAre you looking at me?
Joey Lumpkinno, I'm just keeping you involved in the circle that you know. There's people that are out there that fucking say they want you to win, but they don't want you to be better than them. Right, and that's the thing.
Vince SerranoLike I want everybody to fucking, if anything like if you outgrow me, I want to chase you now.
Joey LumpkinYeah, and I love that. I love watching people grow because it pushes you harder. Too Big facts.
Vince SerranoHell yeah.
The Black CloverAll right, man, make sure to follow me at Black Clover MMA. Is that underscore?
Joey LumpkinBlack.
The Black CloverClover underscore MMA. Shout out to my sponsors obviously Venom. All of Us Form Blitz Energy K4 Studios, mayhem Wrestling Club.
Joey LumpkinBig Brooks.
The Black CloverBig Brooks Champions MMA. Felicia's what else.
Vince SerranoWe got on there, we got anybody else on there. Cake and.
Sean FebreTreats.
The Black CloverYeah.
Sean FebreBlitz Energy.
Joey LumpkinOh yeah, hit more on there, mma. Felicia cake and treats yeah.
The Black CloverBlitz energy drink. Oh yeah, hit more on there got all the got some Team Reaper. Team Reaper shout out Team Reaper and the energy drink is new yeah, yeah, shout out energy drink, yeah, cause I can't fit everybody. Make sure y'all go. Oh, and GMC Mills also my dog Candyman with his meal preps. He does amazing. Gmc Mills does amazing. If you guys need preps, these guys are absolutely wonderful. Get the macro straight.
Sean FebreAnd then follow.
Joey LumpkinWe got Venom Nutrition. We got Ruthless Streetwear. You hit up both them websites. We got Happy Hour Holidays on the. Ruthless Streetwear.
Sean FebreWe're going to get on there.
Joey LumpkinYeah, we do that collection.
Vince SerranoWe got to do the Yonge-City Yacht Club Make sure y'all go follow like subscribe to Yonge-City Yacht Club. We got to do that collab with Ruthless Streetwear led by no man, yeah, hell yeah. And then you already know Happy Hour, holidays Like. Subscribe comment.
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