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Prime Time: Harlem Series Finale - Love, Laughter, and Life Lessons
What happens when a comedy-drama series like "Harlem" offers both giggles and gut-punch moments about life's complexities? We're tackling that question head-on with our lively discussion on the third and final season of this Amazon Prime gem. We kick off with Moni, our fabulous guest, as we spotlight characters like Camille and Ian and dissect the show's unique mix of humor and drama. From navigating sticky ex-relationships to the pursuit of personal life goals, "Harlem" serves a rich narrative on the intersection of love and life's challenges.
Enter the pivotal episode "Fallopian Blues," where Camille's unexpected pregnancy opens the door for conversation on Black maternal health and essential communication dynamics. This chapter isn't just about plot twists; it's a genuine look at the importance of Black OBGYNs and the often-taboo topic of how hormonal changes impact relationships. We question Camille's choice of text-based communication for big news and explore the broader themes of gender stereotypes and relationship etiquette, all while maintaining a light-hearted, yet sincere focus on the drama unfolding in Harlem.
As timing plays its perennial role in relationships, we reflect on personal stories of mismatched maturity and life stages, illustrating how the right person can appear at the wrong time. Ethical non-monogamy, dominant partners, and the necessity of open dialogue weave through our talk, grounding fictional tales in relatable truths. Ultimately, the power of friendship emerges as a central theme, both in "Harlem" and in life. We wrap up with a nod to "Girl Trip," a film that celebrates the bonds of friendship, underscoring the life lessons and emotional growth that come from both screen and personal experiences. Join us for a heartfelt exploration that mirrors both the laughter and learning of life's rollercoaster ride.
Welcome to Primetime. It's a new segment on Straight Gay Reviews. I'm your boy, sgr, and we got our girl.
Speaker 2:Hi everybody, it's Monty.
Speaker 1:Hey Monty. So this episode we're here to talk about the one, the only.
Speaker 2:Harlan.
Speaker 1:If you didn't catch it, amazon's TV series. Typically everything that they house is on Prime Video. So Prime Time is about all things Amazon Prime. So you know Prime Time. But on the screen, if you are watching or if you're listening, we have Ty. We also have Camille, who's played by Megan Good. I'm sorry, I don't know all of the girls.
Speaker 2:Carrie Johnson is Ty.
Speaker 1:Thank you for helping me out. Now, angie, I should really look her up. She's my girl, she. You know I love Angie because she embraces herself. And then we got Grace Byers. Well, Grace Byers, I just hate Oof, because Quinn Joseph is like. Quinn Joseph is who I want to be and who I used to be, but we'll get there, we'll get there. So just to go ahead and tell you guys, this is the third and final season of this series. It is started in 2021, but before we get into, you know how we usually do, or we give you the synopsis and blah, blah, blah. We're going to hit it a little bit different. So, episode one of season three there were six episodes. Episode one is called expecting Somebody might ask you a question and then you know, you can kind of like we can go back and forth, but it's sex for you off the table when it's with an ex, yes or no?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay For me. I didn't double back a few. Why is it off the table for you?
Speaker 2:I um. One of my favorite quotes is I do not back spin the block, I reroute. You're an expert at reading.
Speaker 1:So I guess a little bit different and one of the things. So Maggie Good's character, camille, is this anthropologist and she is like this teacher assistant, she wants tenure, that's her whole like track and she has this on-and-off again dude named Ian, and Ian is played by Tyler Loeffli. Shout-out to Tyler Loeffli because you know. Hey baby, I'm proud of him. You don't see him on the screen. You'd be up there like when he at.
Speaker 1:That part because he plays his roles really good and at first I thought it was really one-dimensional because he was on a lot of Tyler Perry stuff. But nah, brother got acting chops. So some of the quotable quotes is you can have sex with your ex. It's just ex-sex, or, I'm sorry. Whoopi Goldberg is doing this, this, and so was Rosie O'Donnell. Whoopi Goldberg is Dr Puret that's what I'm trying to say For those that are home.
Speaker 1:And she is essentially like the hardest person on Camille, like she like no, you suck. And she told Camille like If you want me to write the, you're going to have to change the title because Camille is writing the book. But to kind of get back Into, told Camille, like if you want me to write the foreword, you're going to have to change the title because Camille is writing the book. But to kind of get back into everything, camille and Ian are smashing. They broke up because Camille didn't want to have a baby. And how do you kind of feel about? Like a man I don't even want to say a man, but a person telling you what they want and then it goes against, like, your values and you end a relationship based upon that, like saying my business. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 2:Well, it's twofold. So, first off, you have to know what you want. There are some things that we can settle in life, and Ian knew that, for him, being a father was something that he wanted. Even if you love the person that you're with, if you know who you are and what you want out of life, sometimes you have to walk away from the love of your life because they're not going to give you what you need. And being a father or being a parent is one thing, but then, on Camille's side, becoming a parent when you're not, when you don't want to be, can be detrimental to a child. You, you got to make sure that, when you're choosing to become a parent, that you're doing it from a place of knowing that this person you are then responsible for and who they become.
Speaker 1:And if you had a rough childhood, some people choose just not to become parents, and being a parent isn't for everyone so not trying to be funny, this a pun, because the episode is called x dot, dot dot acting, so expecting um, again a pun. Harlem is a very messy show, so if you like funny shady drama, very like direct statements, just like the one, two punchers, very much that. So in it can be a word clapping cheeks. Clapping the cheeks. Up in here he was shooting up the club, doing everything and basically he ghosted her for two months and in that ghosting for two months she out with her homegirls and it's like oh, there's Ian and Ian kissing up on Portia, who is played by Logan Brown and I love that Logan Brown, again, another actor that has a lot of dimension.
Speaker 1:But essentially, um, camille blows up and she's upset because she's like what, what the, what the fuck? You know, uh, and where you're not be trying to say that they're black history month, but y'all get what I'm trying to say. Like you could have told me whoopty, whoopty, whoop, wow, but like how do you feel about that? Like you go from clapping cheeks every day with your ex and then kind of move to like I'm ghosting you but it's like you can't go to me because we have history but even still, is it ghosting or is it responsible?
Speaker 2:because I don't actually owe you an explanation. You are my ex. We were just having sex. Yes, we do have a history, but, like he said, he, you know, had a history with Portia. They decided to pursue something and that's where his energy shifted to, and sometimes we can't have the closure conversation because we still don't match.
Speaker 1:And if he was in a relationship, if this wasn't Ian and Camille, I would agree with you. But knowing their story, knowing how many different instances and angst we've been through, I have to agree with you. And the reason why I have to disagree with you is because they owe each other. Camille the only reason that she's upset is because in me, I see myself in Camille. She just wants to be communicated to. I see myself in Camille. You see that woman right there with the locks. She didn't have the locks for a minute. You know they may be faux locks, but I see myself in Camille, even though I'm bald headed. And it's because, from my perspective, it's simple Communicate with me, Tell me that you're going to move on. Let me be in my feels about that. But to ghost me. And we got this rapport but we're not together.
Speaker 2:I don't owe you that communication you know what?
Speaker 1:you're absolutely right, but we'll get to something else in the later in episode two.
Speaker 2:In all honesty, we've all had that ex that Ian knew be for real. He knew he was still in love with that girl. He was not communicating with her because he knew that he was going to mess up what he was in we will again.
Speaker 1:We will get to that. You know y'all asked me to stay on topic and stay on track and you know I got a little talk track. So you know episode two it's called fallopian blues. Um can't find out that she's pregnant and for me this is more of like why do all of these women go to the same doctors? Because the earlier season they all had the same therapist or was it?
Speaker 1:that was, that was a series, because I was about to say I'm mixed up around the world because they're very much both based in new york, but anyway, we'll talk about that another time. But like I live once, twice, a few times, like what did you think was gonna happen, camille, if you play with fire?
Speaker 2:no, not absolutely. She was told that and I am one of those very same women who were told that you only have the three percent chance of getting pregnant. Right, and that's what you're told. What do you mean? No, you just get comfortable, especially if you're with someone that you trust it happens. And to your question about why they all go to the same doctor in black maternal, it is very hard to come across a black OBGYN, especially a good black OBGYN, and Black women need a Black OBGYN, whether it's a man or a woman. You need to see a Black OBGYN. Sorry, say it again, black. If you're Black, go to a Black OBGYN. There are just some things y'all heard that man Robert talking about. We just all got different immune systems and everything else out here in this world because we're Black. That's the very reason you need to see someone Black when it comes to your body.
Speaker 1:And even though this is based on humor, I knew you were going to say that and that's the reason why I asked that question. But my favorite quote from this episode was my life is not a reaction to you, and that's something Camille has said to Ian. Granted, there's a lot of other things, background happening in this episode, but the things that were important to me was she wanted to talk to Ian. Ian was just being like Ian, because, at the end of the day, you don't want to entertain your ex, but you also don't want to, you know, ignore your current. And it's kind of interesting and early on I said this. I was like I want that Angie and Mike love and one of the things is kind of okay, you can look now, but it's interesting because there is and we talked about this in relationship realism like the 80-20 rule, and we'll get to that in a moment. Okay, and we talked about this in relationship realism like the 80-20 rule, and we'll get to that in a moment.
Speaker 1:Okay, but the question for episode two is how do you prefer news being delivered? Do you think that text messaging is an appropriate way of communicating because it does not have a tone? Do you feel like calling? Do you feel like an in-person conversation is important? Like if I hit you with I got that late text, I don't want to be, I don't want to be, I don't want to. You know like I can't remember the lyrics, but my point is no.
Speaker 2:So there are certain things you could just shoot through a text right but finding out you're gonna be a parent not a text kind of thing. It might not be a phone call thing. It definitely probably needs to be an in-person conversation. If you got tested and you got something, call me. I don't. Also, I'm. I be in boardrooms and Zoom meetings. I don't want to read you got this, this, this, this and this in the middle of a meeting. Call me and let me know.
Speaker 1:So I just I just had to ask that because, like there was a lot of texting through here and it's a lot of like and like, even in the first episode, Ian, like she sent her she being Camille sent him like a sex pic and he like thumbs it up and I'm just like but was it?
Speaker 2:even she had that moment of like? Oh my god, I should have never sent that. But you find out. It's just hormones, of course, and why she?
Speaker 1:oh my God, I should have never sent that. But you find that it's just hormones, of course, and why she did that she was needy because she missed him, and you know they say that, like if you have a boy, it bellises out your testosterone and makes you even more effervescent, and if you have a girl, you overproduce, you know your estrogen and what have you. Again, that's what they say. I don't know nothing about that part, so correct me if I'm wrong. Um, so episode three is called. Can we talk for a minute? Can we talk for a minute? Um, do you feel that timing is important? Do you feel that timing is important in in?
Speaker 2:every sense, because think about it like um, we'll get into it in relationship realism, my latest situation, but always there's always. It can be the right person, wrong time, like Usher said in Good, good like it can be the right person wrong time.
Speaker 2:I agree with that. Like Usher said in Good Good it could be the right person, wrong time. They could have been the right person. It's just, there are some things that we all need to have gone through to become the best versions of ourselves, and until we've become that best version of ourselves, we could be hurting those around us.
Speaker 1:I have to follow up with that and I have to agree, because timing is very important and I and I remember writing this in my little notes I don't like Ian. He's a reverse F boy Camille kind of calls about for, like, if you have the statistical fortitude, his reply was my bad.
Speaker 2:Like fortitude and his reply was my bad. Like some people who in men, mostly who it takes a long time, I read an article and shout out to my homegirl, crystal, because I read it to her um, she is one of my favorite married couples that I talked to, so on and so forth. You, if you're ever married, make sure you have a married person in your circle that you can communicate with, because only married people understand married people.
Speaker 1:Don't talk to single people. They want you to be single too.
Speaker 2:The way my mama used to say if you only surround your marriage with single people, y'all gonna be single. So surround your marriage with married people Shout out to mama If you have single friends, absolutely you still so. Surround your marriage with married people. Shout out to mama Single friends, absolutely, you still supposed to. I also believe in having non mommy friends, so that I stay in touch with who I am outside of being a mom and my identity.
Speaker 2:But I was saying that, to say like there's just the article that said that men do not grow up until they're 44. Women at 34, men at 44. And in this series, ian is still in his 30s.
Speaker 1:And I have to agree with that because basically what the issue was in my perspective, the reason why Portia and Ian are all of a sudden happy, happy couple times, is because Ian wants a family and Portia has a childhood. Now I got to say this Portia is spelled P-O-R-T-I-A. I swear that spells Portia. I don't care what Noah says, it sounds like Portia to me. If y'all want to say it's Portia, it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Everybody gets a chance to say it, but I didn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't have a choice. Anyway, my point being is Ian should have told me.
Speaker 2:You see me what you, you can change it, it's $120.
Speaker 1:We're not going to.
Speaker 1:We had the discussion. I like root milk, I'm an original. So the issue with Portia is the reason why Camille was upset wasn't necessarily that he was with Portia, it was that he decided to fertilize her embryos Excuse me, fertilize her egg with his sperm and make embryos, embryos, excuse me, fertilize her egg with his sperm and make embryos. And they had froze those and Camille was like. Camille was going back through the choice, pro-life, pro-choice type situation. She, ultimately, she decided to have the baby. She did the you know, make sure that there were no defects, no, nothing, blah, blah, blah. Found out it was a girl. But before she came to this realization, she was upset because she was just like you could have told me and Ian was just like, well, you know, he was already going through something, just like a man, like my bad, and that was his answer. She's like frustrated storms, all types of situations.
Speaker 1:This episode, really, to me, episode three, was mainly about family ties. It was like putting everything in a bow, because Camille calls her mother, she tries to call Ian, who she's trying to figure out this family life whip, so, um, episode four is called foot rub. Okay, um, I kind of uh, bring it down. But I want to ask this question how do rules work for one and apply to me, but they don't apply to another? And I'll get into that If you want me to expand upon it a little bit.
Speaker 1:Like how, how? Yeah, okay, so like, for instance, if we had a working relationship, okay, like you know, everyone assumes that we're in a relationship anyway. Okay, you do you, I do me, you support me in every facet of my life and you're there for me and we know you be there, you be on it. Okay. But when it comes to give you a little bit of time and love and affection and show up for you, it's like I don't like that you're doing this thing. I don't like that you're doing that thing. I don't like that you're doing this. I don't like you're doing that. Do you feel like one set of rules can apply to one person but not to the other person?
Speaker 2:Absolutely Okay.
Speaker 1:Thanks, man.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing I am someone who knows that in some people's life I am a lot of things to a lot of people. Right, but are those same people the same to me? No, but there's a reason for it. I can honestly say I have three best friends, and Kelsey shout out to Kelsey. Kelsey is the most amazing, pure best friend in this world. But I can, in this world that I'm in right now, can honestly say that she is a better friend to me than I've been to her. Got you In that same sense of the word. The way I feel about you and Nastassia is the way that Kelsey is for me. I am for y'all. Does Kelsey hold that against me? Absolutely not.
Speaker 2:We were going to church together today and the pastor talked about do you have a friend that you could pray for in any season and for whatever reason? And it doesn't have to be because you got a foreclosure notice or because your mom is sick or your kids are acting up or your marriage. Is it just because today is Tuesday? Do you have that friend? And that is who Kelsey is. When you help me find my church home, she is where my relationship with Jesus has come from, like the strength of it, the, the person that can come get me, that will drag the church, that will hold my hand there.
Speaker 2:But there are some people that if Kelseysey has an event, I might not be the first person she thinks of to say hey, come, she knows I'll come right available. Of course my son is her godson, um, but for some people we stand in the gap for different reasons and we all have different friends for different reasons. There are some people who come into our lives that teach us different things, that are there for different reasons, but everybody can't be everything for everyone else in the same sense of like my nieces and nephews. So you know, I have one that lives with me. Our relationship is different than some of the others. I have a set. There's four of them my twin, my Alyssa, my Ellen, their mom and my sister are gone. My mom is gone. So for that set of kids, my role for their kids is a little different than my other nieces and nephews. We all have to be something different, for different people, for different reasons.
Speaker 1:And I guess I should have specified, because that is, that is an elegant and a beautiful way of looking at it and I appreciate you being, you know, one of the things I've gotten feedback on our episodes and our conversations that people like that. You're so real. Like you know, I'm so open, so thank you. That's why I like to have you on different topics Before we popped into this question a little bit further. I just have to say I'm pulling back up because I feel disrespectful.
Speaker 1:Ty is a lesbian. She's amazing. She made this app called Q. It's essentially like for black, lgbt I don't want to say black minorities essentially because she made this. She's like a tech in tech. Quinn is a stylist. Quinn is on the far right and she is played by Grace Byers and she is in by Grace Byers.
Speaker 1:Angie is in the acting. She was doing a whole bunch of little boom boom. She finally got her big break. Her big break is Girls Trip, the musical. She is Dina. Dina is the one that says there are drugs in my butt. She actually has this moment where she does this whole song, this whole situation, and shout out to Angie, because one thing I love about Angie Is that she's very unapologetically Angie and she's hilarious and she don't care where she is, who she ain't Ah you loud. She always has her nails done. I love that she actually does her eyelashes With different colors. She's just very much Angie.
Speaker 1:But this question specifically was Mike, I felt was kind of diminishing Angie in this episode. This was the start of the, of the, of the, the falter, the break and everything Like. I understand that you don't have one thing, but let me be up there to uplift you and uphold you and you wanted to have this big, grandiose wedding. Mike had the money and there were some situations I was like, okay, I can kind of see where Angie's coming from and I can kind of see where Mike's coming from, but ultimately, like neither part is communicating and I felt like ultimately there was a lot of situations where Angie was shrinking herself and I've been in a situation where I have to shrink myself and we can have this where you got to shrink yourself. So episode five is called Fear Factor and episode five is, you know, the question I have is can opposites really work? You also have Quinn, who essentially ran into this fine chocolate man. His name was Seth, he was a baseball player.
Speaker 2:Wow, angel, kofi baby. Go ahead, just for Ralph Angel. If y'all don't know who Ralph Angel is baby, I mean Kofi. Y'all know him as Kofi, but I met him as Ralph Angel.
Speaker 1:He's a fine guy and it's funny because he's not like a really big buff guy. But it's just something about his voice, his look, his suave. Wasn't he in Girls Trip?
Speaker 2:Yes, Okay so that's even funnier.
Speaker 1:I thought he was.
Speaker 2:But, if you want, I'm so serious about Kofi, that man, that chocolate skin that.
Speaker 1:Can you hold on one moment? You know what? I'm going to go on mute and I'm going to ask you so can opposites cause I'm you know when I click clack and start to be loud answer the question can opposites really work? And then I'm going to find a picture of this man and put them up.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Opposites can definitely work if there's clear communication. Um, there is a beauty. There's beauty in someone being able to really bring out the best in you, and sometimes that is someone who is opposite. There's someone who can show you exactly like where you lack they could be strong in, and where you're strong and it could be where they lack and you guys could find the balance and help to figure each other out. But the only way for that to work is if you both have this really clear communication, if you're open, you're honest, all of that.
Speaker 2:I was married to someone who was my complete opposite and the reason why it didn't work is because we didn't communicate well. It goes back to one of the episodes that we had on relationship realism. When we talk about someone who is raised on love versus someone who was raised in struggle, it literally just takes communication, because those are two opposites that have to really make it work, really have to figure it out, and I just love the idea that love can come from your opposite. It doesn't have to be someone who's just like you, because that can be boring as well if everything you guys do is just in the two of you, so there could be more. Who to go down there? Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 1:Like baby it took me a second to find them, but it's the smile, it's the skin, it's the everything. I'm not even. That's a lot of you. You, you know, you know you be doing these roles and again I got to take you off the screen before we get distracted.
Speaker 1:But, I get distracted looking at that smile and that voice, like, hey, what up. But you are right, all of those things matter and they can work, but I feel like it's the perpetual motion of what type of love do you want? Do you want somebody who's going to fight for you and compromise for you, or do you want somebody who's going to fight with you and literally stand on their business? And you don't see my perspective. You don't see this.
Speaker 1:I was watching an episode of Love During Lockup and this lady was going real hard for this guy. His name Rob and Rob was like no, I want to go out in the streets. She's like ain't none of them been with you this whole time? Well, you'll understand. Like I don't want to feel locked up. Like okay, cool, cool, but she didn't bought the hotel, she didn't get you stuff, she didn't did that, she didn't did all these different things and all. She asked me for his time to be with you. That's all she want. You trying to rip and run through the streets and again, I see both sides. You don't want to feel like you tied down, but you're not tied down. You can leave out the door anytime you want to, as he did you know and it's kind of messed up, but neither here nor there.
Speaker 1:And um, we find out in episode six who eva and eva is ty's girlfriend, ty, the messed up ty. Ty is a walking red flag. I love this for us, but I hate it for us because in the last season, ty was like I don't even know if they're smacking lips, because you don't clap cheeks with men or women. She was smacking lips with this girl who was like a hoochie girl, and then the mama. They were both out there on the LGBTQ spectrum.
Speaker 1:I'm like, girl, how you do that? How you figure out that? That was ooh. And then she had to go be celibate and then she found out she liked this girl. But Ty has a lot of healing to do. Ty, to me, created this whole narrative and this person who is amazing, truly the CEO of a company who is great and in tune with herself, but at the same token and this is again my opinion I feel like she runs away from a lot of things. So she puts up this defense so that she doesn't have to address it. And when I, when I found out Eva and again, eva was beautiful, beautiful lesbian.
Speaker 1:Her mama was Robin Gibbons I said this is going to be a good episode because, sometimes I forget, like Sherry Sherry being a whole bunch of stuff, but Sherry's a good actress too, because she's in another show that I watch and she's shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot, angie's mama. There you go. That's the one I was trying to say. So this last episode is called Dear Harlem. Okay, and this is the final episode of Harlem. It kind of shrank it down. What have you? But the 80-20 rule, dating ethically monogamous. Could you push past your self-doubts without dating monogamously?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I would say yes too, and the reason I'm laughing, though, was I feel like a little bit too much honesty is a little bit too much, and it goes back to the timing thing, and everything does have a place. So, seth, the first thing he says to Quinn is I'm dating. What do you say? I'm dating, I'm essentially. I'm essentially open, I'm ethnic, ethnic non-monogamous. I don't know why I be having so like. Yeah, I'm like, and you know how I am, but ethically non-monogamous. My point being is, that was the first thing he said to her. So they had just got finished smashing. This is the end of episode five. Episode gets out of bed. Hey, yo, what up, though? Sabrina? Yeah, baby, I'm just with Quinn right now. Again, kofi, I would have still been in that bed, like, okay, when she come, when we call me her.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, the importance of what was my favorite Maya Angelou quote is, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them the first time. We cannot change these men. Stop thinking that your box don't be the one, your box not the one. He told her from the beginning who she was. And someone who, like, watches the blogs and stuff while the episode was coming on and everybody on tiktok and everywhere else like, uh, and it better be his daughter and it no, that's his girlfriend. He told y'all that he don't do relationships like why would y'all never take the money?
Speaker 1:but I think the funniest thing and again this is my opinion is with Sabrina and they met and she just like, here's my panel, here's my panel of all my STIs and do, do, do, do like and get tested absolutely that wasn't it. That's not it. I appreciate her realness. It was the fact that you've not read the room. You can already tell Quinn was awkward there. I feel that if she would have included Quinn instead of telling her what to do, it would have went down differently If you have a conversation with.
Speaker 1:Quinn's character. It's always a conversation. If you always tell her, you can win her over and woo her. My favorite other quote was I think this was episode two. Yeah, no, it was episode three. It was episode three. Now people are saying that I'm acting light-skinned because Quentin is the lightest of all other people. Stop trying to colonize people's clients. And you wouldn't be worried about that. And that was Angie's retort. But again, that was a conversation that she did to help and what have you. And whoop, whoop. But I feel like sabrina was just coming on like a thousand percent. If somebody ain't never did non-monogamy before, you ain't gonna be up there. Okay, so you gotta do this, this, this, this, this, and she's just like yeah no, I'm in communication.
Speaker 2:I don't feel that it was on. It was fire, it was. No, I feel like she should have had a different conversation with Seth about. Right, but that's what it was questions she never asked. So think about the fact of when she sat down with Sabrina, Sabrina was like oh, I saw your guys' date. I saw your guys' this.
Speaker 1:There was communication that he has with Sabrina Because that's her primary, that's his primary and I agree with that His primary is very, very clear, very crystal.
Speaker 2:There's no secrets, there's no nothing, and that's why they work. If he was to have had that same kind of communication with Quinn, it could have worked.
Speaker 1:And I agree with that statement. My point is that Sabrina is a different entity, other than Seth. If you said that you wanted them to meet, I feel like his relationship should have been stronger with that of Quinn so that when the conversation would have happened it would have been like we both on the same page. It ain't like Peter taught her. That's all I'm saying. So other things like I was so sad for Logan Brown's Portia and this character. Portia was dropping the big facts and did not reply at all when she was just like you know, I kind of feel like you still are in love with your ex and he didn't say nothing because he and Camille are forever. Tyler Lepley shout out Tyler Lepley and Maggie Good are forever. I wish they'd get together in real life. That's how much I like them kissing on screen.
Speaker 2:I did not feel bad for Portia you didn't. No, I sympathize with her, I ain't got empathy for her no, I didn't sympathize at all either. Couple reasons when they got together, portia and Ian. You know that him and camille just broke up, so and then you knew why they broke up okay and then y'all immediately go and freeze embryos, because it was the way she threw her relationship with ian in camille's face. Consistently. Karma is karma. Come taste this dessert in my face. Hurry up, come back in. No, that was never your man.
Speaker 1:Well, the baby shower we skip, we glaze over this whole thing. The baby shower had a dang floor. This cake has to be perfect. Because Ian forgot. Because Ian is Ian, he's still a man. Ian forgot to get the forgot because Ian is Ian, he's still a man. Ian forgot to get the cake because Ian is a chef guy.
Speaker 1:So Quinn basically was just like you can never rely, you always want to support black businesses, but they're never on time, which had me on a float because I was just like preach, preach, preach, preach, preach, preach, because you know, support black businesses, they want to show up when they want to show up. And so he forgot the cake. So he essentially was just like oh well, we're going to do, we're going to hurry up and make Portia, can we repurpose one of your cakes? And she was just like he, like it ain't got to be perfect so that your baby mama and her friends can be judging me. Oh no, this cake is going to be perfect, which again kind of gets me back to this situation, which again kind of gives me back to the situation.
Speaker 1:I think porsche was just looking for perfect. And then this was a quote, the quotable quote, that took me away. Um, I didn't mean to hurt you is what ian said, and then porsche said it just worked out that way. So like, uh, the thing that kind of did. I got two more questions for you, like how do you push back stuff though? Because there was a scene in the episode with Angie, and Angie was just like she was on cloud nine and then her director was just like it don't matter about these things, it don't matter about these people. Essentially, if you fuck up today, you fuck up for life, and so she, her hair. So how do you push back stuff though?
Speaker 2:Because, in essence, you get one shot when you're trying to do things. So it can be scary and she hadn't thought about that. And there's a moment in all of our lives when we're really, really striving to achieve a goal or to get to one of our dreams that if you haven't had that self-assessment, that self-thought, that process, we all have that moment of like. I don't know if I should. I am really big in doing trainings and presentations and facilitating of different things, that I have imposter syndrome.
Speaker 2:When people will be like oh, of course you just asked Monica and I'll be like, but the moment of pushing past the self-doubt comes from. You have to have God. You have to have this moment of I can. I'm in this room for the reason I am monica and that's why they request monica is because I can do this. But I have my moments where I gotta scream megan, the stallion glow rilla or something, right before I hit record on one of them trainings and that all comes from. I also know who I am. I, you know, just released my own little podcast where it talks about my mom and my mom being the baddest bitch to walk in any mother room.
Speaker 1:She lives in me and I am her and she is me, and that comes from learning who you are and being confident in your own self-worth and so on the screen, for those that are watching, that's Tyler Lepley, and y'all see why she doubled back, because if that was mine, I'd double back Two, three, four times, six times.
Speaker 2:Until the end of time, that's mine. And shout out to Miracle and his fiancée.
Speaker 1:Fiancée.
Speaker 2:His fiancée Shout out to Miracle and I love I'd watched his um a podcast with him. Megan and Jerry and all three of them are currently engaged and they talk about being in the limelight and all of the things and he jokes about how everybody, when he announced their engagement, was like finally, and he was like y'all know that it was really just three years, but the way that social media and all of the things. He was like but when you're in this world you got to pause and make sure that it's real.
Speaker 1:Exactly Because you don't want to get into something and it's something the next day. So this is the last question and this will kind of get us to where we go in and, you know, do a little wrap up. How would you feel if your fiance made a move about your career or a decision about your career? How would you feel about that for you before you even can think about it?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't be my fiance.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:So shout out to Angie, because at the end she goes.
Speaker 1:I think we need to move in different directions that fulfill our needs. Takes off her ring, puts it down and I thought I wanted a Mike Love Like. Mike was like this knight in shiny armor. Mike was actually supposed to originally be with Quinn. Quinn and Mike were upset. Quinn stopped you see me, angie stopped talking to Mike because she was like you know essentially chicks before dicks.
Speaker 1:But it come to find out that, like as soon as the tables return and that's why I asked that question earlier like how do you support somebody? And I understand, like the friendship that you have with kelsey is a different friendship that you have with me no in a relationship.
Speaker 2:So it with mike. Mike always had those signs that he wants to be dominant, he wants to be the one who's in control, and there are men who that is their goal. There's a whole little category of men that I've unlocked since I lost over 100 pounds, and Mike fits into that category. They typically come with the money, but they also come with this notion that they are the main character.
Speaker 1:They are the only character. You are a minor character.
Speaker 2:You are a supporting character in their life, and that means they want you to be, you know, barefoot and pregnant. They want you to be a stay-at-home mom, they want to run and control things, and then it means that you then can't have a strong partner. Those types of men no shade, no disrespect to the women that they end up with are a tad bit weaker.
Speaker 1:They are and the reason why, if you notice, like I was like, can opposites truly attract? Like, can you like? Yeah, I feel like opposites do attract, but it does require effort on both parts. And there were some times I'm just like I could see where he would be a little frustrated, like Angie, you weren't paying attention that he had not sold a house, but she did drop towards the end he was like well, you're not supporting me. He's like there've been dinner dates that I, we, you, you have to go see a client You've left me at, you've been this, have not seen.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, I do feel like this should have gotten another season, but maybe, uh, the powers that be decided that season three was the end of the harlem story, because we did get to see that, uh, camille and ian, they had harlem parks walker and how she was born was she was twerking and it was like there were no heavy movements. I already told, told you Like, walk away, walk away. And then her water broke and then it was just a whole scene and it was just hilarious. But I'm kind of happy with the ending. I wish that we got more. But, yeah, how about you, how about you? Would this be something you tell people to watch, because I don't feel like it's an update to Girlfriends, like it's like it's not, it's its own entity.
Speaker 2:The same thing it's its own category of things. We can't have anything because run the world Harlem.
Speaker 1:I feel like run the world and Harlem and Insecure. All of these stories are very self-contained, like I'll be honest with you, when it happens, when I can write my book hey, look this how this gonna go. We got if we start into the series. You got 10 episodes, 3 seasons, that's it. So 30 episodes. However, y'all want to write it, come back. No, one of the reasons why I love Agatha all along and WandaVision is because Jack Schaefer was like oh, I don't do second seasons, so cherish what you have. And I think that that's kind of one of those situations where people.
Speaker 2:But I feel like I did feel rushed. The rest of the seasons were 10 episodes, this one being six. And then, because I work with babies, that three-month-old baby stressed me out. We could have jumped three months in advance and seen the baby then, but she was adorable, gorgeous baby. I want one, give me her. That three-month-old baby, pretending it was a newborn, stressed me just a little bit, just a tad. You could've just showed her.
Speaker 1:It could be like this, not like this. Yeah, it could open their eyes.
Speaker 2:That was somebody's baby that was on set, they would give her hair real quick.
Speaker 1:Around the day. Put her in the crib tomorrow, that ain't nobody got to know.
Speaker 2:I would definitely tell people to watch it. I agree that it's self-contained, but it had a lot of nuggets. There were some things that you know, you learn from relationships with your friends and even watching the Girl Strip, the musical and watching the actual four, you know the actual three girls standing up watching their friend. And if you haven't seen girl strip, definitely go see girl strip as well. That is something that everyone should see. But everyone deserves good friends and the things that you get from your friends, um, is really showcased in harley well, thank you, monty.
Speaker 1:This has been prime time, uh, where we talked about harley. See you guys soon see ya, bye.