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Wheaux & Housewives: Wartime Wisdom, GPS Gaffes, and Cookie Chronicles
What happens when crab cakes, navigation mishaps, and World War II memories intersect with heartwarming and challenging stories of friendship and family? Our latest episode of "Wheaux & Housewives" takes you on an emotional roller coaster, starting with Kyle's humorous struggle without GPS during a run, sparking a lively chat about the pitfalls of modern technology. From there, we weave through the profound narrative of Reba's upbringing during wartime, revealing how past experiences shape our current perspectives. Sutton opens up about her father's battle with depression, sparking a poignant conversation about empathy and personal battles—a moment that will leave you both reflective and compassionate.
Join us as we explore the intricate dance of family dynamics with Reba's journey balancing motherhood and household duties, while Garcelle offers encouragement and humor. We share a cookie-baking story that perfectly illustrates the delicate balance between parental involvement and allowing adult children to find their own path. Erika's home renovations become a symbol of personal growth, inspiring a discussion on embracing life's phases with grace. And, of course, we ponder whether a lazy morning indulgence is truly permissible, adding a sprinkle of humor to life's serious moments.
Finally, we dive into the lighter side of relationships and traditions, celebrating the rituals we form with loved ones. From the playful drama of "The Real Housewives of Potomac" to the quirks of social media interactions, we joyfully navigate through the complexities of declaring love and parenthood. Reflecting on memorable quotes and those hilariously failed escape attempts, we wrap up with a nod to the anticipated drama of Beverly Hills and Potomac's upcoming seasons. Whether you're a seasoned reality TV fan or simply in need of a good laugh, this episode promises a heartwarming blend of real-life insights and guilty pleasures.
Welcome to who's the Housewives. It's your boy, sgr, and.
Speaker 2:Steph, what's going on, guys?
Speaker 1:Hey, hey. So this week we're here to talk about what's the title of this episode?
Speaker 2:It's called Mind your Business.
Speaker 1:Mind your business, mind your madness. So what do you mean? I never made you crab cakes. You never asked me to make you crab cakes, steph.
Speaker 2:No, I just feel. We've been friends for a really long time and you've never even offered like basically over half my life now and you've never even offered to make me crab cakes. Pretty offended, I'm going to be submitting a comment card to SGR. I'm pissed.
Speaker 1:Because I am the CEO.
Speaker 2:You are the CEO. You never ate crab cakes ever.
Speaker 1:You're probably not going to get them now. So thank you for letting me know and I guess which comes first I love you or baby? Like? I know we're going to get into that, but I did watch this week's episode. I was really kind of my emotions were all over the place. So I can't wait for your questions to kind of get people to run down. Do you want to get people to run down or do you want to get the questions or the quotable quotes? Which one do you want to go first with?
Speaker 2:Let's start with the rundown.
Speaker 1:Okay, you which one you want to go first with let's start with the rundown.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we're back in augusta, georgia. And uh, kyle goes for a run, now ramil do you ever take directions from people. Or, do you like, live by the gps?
Speaker 1:gps. I don't trust y'all. I'll be lost somewhere when we go places, even when I know where I'm going, you know I turn on the GPS, are you right? Is that a right or a wrong statement?
Speaker 2:I'd say that's pretty spot on. I'm basically the same way directionally challenged, and Kyle goes for a run and gets lost. It's just kind of funny.
Speaker 1:You would have been in a cemetery by then. You're supposed to go through the back door, not the front.
Speaker 2:It was funny, I just you know. It got me wondering like should you trust directions from other people? How did we live before the GPS?
Speaker 1:We use maps. It's just that you know our devices do everything Like. Think about it. We used to carry around a digital camera. This is our digital camera. This is our MP3 player. This is our digital camera. This is our MP3 player. This is our GPS. So I mean, that kind of answers it, but on some real stuff, it could be me.
Speaker 2:What's her mom's name again?
Speaker 1:Reba. Reba definitely is like. You shouldn't have been running this late in the first place. I'm like I hope when I get as old as Reba and I hope to make it to 82, I am just not as sassy and so like, because every like you could have blown air. I don't like this, I don't like that. I was like, oh my God, reba man, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I have kind of a different perspective on Reba. I actually kind of really like her after watching this episode. We don't get into it. We will get into it, hater, Okay. So you know, Reba kind of talks about her childhood with her father and she divulges that she's like a WW2 baby World War II and I think that she shed a lot of light on how a lot of our grandparents sort of, you know, grew up. It wasn't like love and nurture, it was more about survival and I think that that's kind of why Reba is the way she is and we will talk about that a little bit more. But we do get a little bit of information from Sutton and she basically said that you know, when she was 26, her dad started struggling, I think, with, or she realized that her dad was struggling with, ongoing chronic depression and he was being medicated. But you know, for a lot of people that struggle with depression, if you don't seek additional treatment besides just medication, sometimes you succumb to illness. And he was self-medicating, he was abusing alcohol.
Speaker 2:And it eventually led to him taking his own life, which was very, very sad to hear about, and you know, Ramil, what were your thoughts on this.
Speaker 1:I was happy that Sutton was comfortable enough. This, okay. So this. Always, like these types of episodes have me remember that these ladies are human, they have similar struggles. But then it also makes me kind of like get upset when it's like you have that empathy, you have that sympathy for yourself, you want that love, you want that caring, but you can't see past your own stuff. So, like this is a very touching episode.
Speaker 1:I'm so happy Sutton shared all of her personal ethics and stuff, visiting her childhood home, literally closing the chapter on it. But it also kind of gives me great gripe and strife and frustration to see upcoming scenes with what's going to happen with Sutton, because I'm just like but we're going to stay here, because we're here and we're in Augusta right now I just I don't like the split trip. I'm going to say that right now I don't like the split trip. They need to do an all or nothing girls trip, because I feel like we're literally missing half of the cast and we got little like driplets or dribbles or whatever you want to say, of the other girls. But again, my heart goes out to Sutton and I'm glad that she was comfortable enough to have that. What about you? How do you feel?
Speaker 2:So I do like the split trip. I understand why. I know all the controversy. I do understand why Sutton decided to only take a couple of the girls on this trip. I do feel like her and her mom probably wouldn't have had the moment that they did at the end of the episode If everybody would have been involved. It would have been kind of awkward and I do kind of feel like Reba might have felt a little ganged up on with all these Beverly Hills housewives in her home. So I do understand. But I do have a question Do you think that people perceive you different if you do therapy or seek treatment when you're struggling with, like, a mental illness?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I feel that mental health and mental illness isn't taken as serious, especially like for the black community. We are, we're, we're taught that if you seek help for mental illness, that you're weak, that you should be able to overcome, you should be able to go ahead, blah, blah, blah. But therapy is one of the things I love doing. Again, shout out to my therapist. Her name is Megan. She's amazing.
Speaker 1:I kind of just you know it's interesting because Reba is a therapist, so I know that she has the willpower, the cognitive capabilities, the love and everything. She even said she's like why do I have to tell you I'm proud of you, I'm proud of you, I'm proud of you. I feel like it's not as potent and not as important. I feel like it loses meaning and I kind of like I understood that. But at the same time, when your child or a loved one is telling you hey, love me, this way You're just like. I mean, I hear you, but I'm going to continue to tell you my perspective, to me it makes me feel like I'm not being heard. What?
Speaker 2:say you. I mean, I understand her perspective. I'm the kind of person and I think sometimes you are too where we like to be a little bit flowery and we're like you know, I love you, I love her, and I do kind of feel like the love word is a little bit overused. I feel like you can pepper it in there. You should definitely make sure your kids know that you love them. But I can see like where she would be, um, maybe concerned about overusing it. Um, and I do feel like it's led Sutton to be kind of like a strong and independent person, and I think that that's part of the reason why she's been able to be so successful, because she's always like kind of striving for the goal. But it's still nice to hear.
Speaker 1:I also think that's one of the reasons why Sutton acts the way that she does, because she does not hear what she wanted to hear from those that are immediate. She did have and Garcelle pointed this out she had a different relationship with her father than she did with her mother, and you can tell. But I'll let you ask the next question.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my next question is do you have certain ice preferences for, like certain types of beverages?
Speaker 1:That shit pissed me off so badly. I was so pissed off. I don't want that ice.
Speaker 1:Why is these spoons in here? Are we having caviar? I'm like woman, it's ice, and Garcelle's like you don't want any ice, don't? I felt so bad for Avi because literally I felt like it was hot, cold, hot cold, hot cold, hot cold. And you already know how. And the great words of Garcelle Reva Sutton, apple Tree. Literally I was getting frustrated for him and the other house worker because I'm just like I would lose it. I would literally lose it and you can tell Avi has learned how to deal with Sutton.
Speaker 1:But good old Jennifer Tilly shout out to her last season crack me the heck up. Which is like he only has two hands. Like what do you want him to do? Where's the dressing? Do you want tea or water? That's why the whole personal assistant thing I don't think I could ever do, because I'm like girl, you need to chill out. You need to say I'll go get you one for my private cabinet because I have to talk to a therapist because of your ass Child, because I have to talk to a therapist because of your ass Child.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. I'm going to come in for the defense on Reba. I do have certain ices that I like with certain beverages and I am not a crazy person. But like I drink these like teas. You stop talking right now I'm talking, but I will only drink these teas with like crushed ice. It has to be crushed ice with like a certain type of water and I felt for Reba I do, cause I think that that some ices make the drink and I know that you think it's crazy, but I think it's totally normal. Change my mind.
Speaker 1:I'm not. This is not that. This is this segment on who's in housewives, is not that? Change your minds out of the situation. Differences of opinion opinion, of course are welcomed. Number one, number two on some real stuff. If that's what you need, honey, and that's how you get your drink cold, that ain't got nothing to do with me because I'm not drinking it. So yeah, that delicious. This ain't got no ice in it I don't like drinking beverages without ice.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think that, uh, those people just are. I don't know, I don't know. I think that those people just are. I don't know, I don't know. I just I can't. I can't do like the lukewarm beverages. It stresses me out. It has to be ice, cold and crisp.
Speaker 1:Well, you know anyway. Next question, please.
Speaker 2:So we kind of touched on this and I do want to ask you know, we we talk about how Reba is a therapist and I do sort of feel like maybe Reba feels like she failed her husband. You know she's a therapist, she's doing great things and or she's trying to do great things for her clients and I wonder if she feels like she failed her husband and that's kind of why she doesn't want to go to Sutton's childhood home and talk a lot about this. And I think it's a fair and valid assessment of the situation. What do you think, ramil? Your face is saying a lot right now.
Speaker 1:I think you're correct. That would be no different if you know we were in a fire and you know I was not alive from the fire and you were a firefighter, or I'm a police officer and you know a criminal broke in our house and you were not alive by the criminal and I'm a police officer. I feel like in some facets she was not necessarily ignoring the warning signs but feeling like we probably have been here before You're going to get through it. Yeah, I agree with that statement. I feel like Reba probably does have some self-resentment and some self-sadness too.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to make excuses for her, but I do want to say that she was trying to raise Sutton, work, raise Sutton's brother as well, and kind of maintain the household while trying to care for her husband. And I do have some empathy just for her, because that's gotta be such a hard situation and I kind of see why she's maybe a little bit tough on the outside.
Speaker 1:Right and I think that she had to be like don't get me wrong, I'm not telling you that she did anything wrong or she's doing this or that. I truly do feel like she had to be, you know.
Speaker 2:Okay. So we see the infamous talk between Reba and Garcelle. We all knew it was coming and I actually kind of feel like it went better than I thought it was going to. Garcelle's basically, like Reba, you need to tell your daughter that you're proud of her. Reba's like that's none of your business, which may be valid, but you know Garcelle's just trying to be a good friend. Look out for Sutton. And you know she she does say to Garcelle you know I'm not trying to insult you, I just don't think that you're you're understanding, like what's going on. And Garcelle admits you know, maybe I don't. I did think it was funny how at the end of the conversation she was like that'll be a thousand dollars. But I think Garcelle handled that conversation with grace and she was able to kind of represent for her friend and you know they made a little bit of headway.
Speaker 1:I do agree with you. I was shocked that garcelle was comfortable enough having a conversation with a woman that she doesn't know, like I've known your mom for what shoot half of our life. At this point in time and I feel like I can walk up to your mom and have a conversation, not so much as your Not saying I can't, but you know, it's just not so much Like I've known your father the same thing. But it takes balls to do what Garcelle did and shout out to Garcelle because, like my friends hurt you need to. I don't think this is the right place.
Speaker 1:I do feel like that was the like, the softening blow that allowed her to be more receptive to the conversation. Because, just like sons, my mom, my mom, you know my dang nurse, just like you know your mom, you know your dang nurse, you'll be like I got it and you're it's not. It's not because our parents always try to help, but like I was baking cookies and you know, last month the mom was like well, what about this? I said, gail, are you making the recipe or am I? Do you want to do it? Do you want me to do it? Well, do you sift the flour? No, gail, I don't sift the flour. I don't do that.
Speaker 2:These are the unsifted cookies. I don't do it.
Speaker 1:You guys are asking me my recipe. I said do you like how they taste? Well, yes, they don't change anything. If you want to modify it, modify it on your own. And I always crack up because that's the thing. I feel like parents do that to us, you know. And from Garcelle's perspective, she was just saying like I miss my mom. I wish I could say more stuff to my mom.
Speaker 2:So I think that's where she was coming from and I think it gave Reba some perspective as to, like, what the conversation was going to be about. So she kind of knew how to talk to Sutton about it and kind of communicate that she understood where she was coming from, but also sort of communicate why she is the way she is. So I thought that it went pretty well. I was surprised, surprised. So Erica's house is getting a facelift. We see the renovations going on. Want to talk about it? Ramil? Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1:I love that she was. I wanted to see the pianist product. A lot of people don't know like. This isn't wallpaper, this is a painted wall that, just like a little bit of pizzazz, can make a space look completely different. And sometimes people are so afraid to do black, Like in my entryway. I have a black wall with like six stripes of like the primary colors, and people are afraid to use the black in their home because they're like.
Speaker 1:Oh it makes it smaller, it just adds depth. You know what you're doing. It adds depth and it makes things look a lot bigger. I'm really ready to see the finished product. What about you Like? What are you? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:I mean, I think Erica has just grown so much. I'm so proud of her. You know she makes the comment that she's excited about her life again.
Speaker 1:It's been four or five years but she's finally, you know, has a reason to wake up in the morning and she's not sleeping till noon anymore, but that's the thing you go through, these phases like I have a friend who's going through something right now and I told her I'm like it's going to suck, it's going to. You know, we've discussed some previous episodes, like when I went through my depression and like to be single and, you know, come through it and like I jokingly make jokes and I say certain things. It's like, oh, this is trash, but like it's interesting the world we live in.
Speaker 2:So it is interesting the world we live in. Good insight, ramil. Um. So is it ever okay to sleep till noon?
Speaker 1:hell yeah, it is. You sleep till noon.
Speaker 2:Don't lie to me I actually don't, so I I'm usually up by like probably 10 at the latest, but I do have this habit of, like I, I will get from the bed to the couch in the living room and then I will lay back down, which is probably not healthy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. That's kind of like what you do. I love you.
Speaker 2:I'm a sloth. I just go from one nut to the other and I like to lay around. But I work hard so I earn that time, so I have a hot take. Do you guys want to hear it?
Speaker 1:Absolutely. We all want to hear it here at SGR. I mean, you are part of SGR.
Speaker 2:Is Keeley an opportunistic boyfriend? Absolutely so. You're saying that, but people on the internet have a different opinion.
Speaker 1:They always do.
Speaker 2:They're basically saying that he was on Love and Basketball, another reality TV show, and he was engaged to some other woman. I'm not sure how true this is I didn't deep dive into it but it's got people wondering if that is why he is willing to have the big conversations with Boze about babies and whatnot, but hasn't said the L word Right.
Speaker 1:I'm about to find out because that man likes her and I'm kind of upset but yeah, boze basically has a nice meeting with her daughter.
Speaker 2:They talk about how she's wanting to progress their relationship, have a baby soon, and they have a nice tea and cookies meetup. I want a tea and cookies meetup. God, this episode had me hungry.
Speaker 1:Why don't we just do it? Because we can do it and make our little tea, and if you hang out during the week you maybe can hang out.
Speaker 2:Well, for those of you that don't know, I mean you mentioned making cookies, but Ramil is a baker, so he's going to set up a nice tea and cookies meetup for me and him and we'll video record it for the people at home.
Speaker 1:I don't think we are going to do that. I think that you just committed me to something that you didn't even talk to me about.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm talking to you about it right now. So take notes. I want the long cookie with the wafer and I want the dips too. The dips are so important. I want chocolate, I want white chocolate and caramel. They did it up. I want to feel special. It's almost Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1:You have a whole husband.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a whole husband that never makes cookies.
Speaker 1:That sounds like a pee-pee. You know what a pee-pee is.
Speaker 2:A personal problem. That's a much harder, because maybe Well, now it's going to be an RP or a meal problem because you're committed, okay. So now that we've got that in the books, we'll be having our tea and cookies podcast.
Speaker 1:Soon Ah, apparently it's happening, it's happening.
Speaker 2:It doesn't need to be like this week, but it's going to happen, okay.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So they talk about the next steps. I think it's kind of nice. I thought her daughter was kind of funny when she was talking about bows giving her the eyebrows. She wouldn't answer the question, but she'll give her the eyebrows. Do you ever give people the eyebrows, ramil? I know you do.
Speaker 1:That's the smaller one Wait.
Speaker 2:You got those fierce facial expressions.
Speaker 1:For those that are listening on the podcast, check out the YouTube. At like 21 minutes and you can see my facial expressions.
Speaker 1:My favorite is all I think with like the whole covid thing, like where we were wearing the masks all the time, people got really good with like using their eyes and their eyebrows to like communicate, but now the conversation has changed I always have been great with that, but I I had to learn with this to be able to like these. Wait, let me. Let me try it again oh, lord ma'am, ma'am, calm down. Back to the COVID days. Not for real, that was a joke. Please don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't want to go back. So Sutton, garthel and Kyle visit her childhood home and we definitely get a lot more insight into Sutton and her life. Get a lot more insight into Sutton and her life. Basically, her dad was sick for a really long time and they had like this whole ritual when Sutton would leave for like dance or what have you and she would kind of grab him by the toe to say goodbye. I think that's kind of like a normal thing. But I wanted to ask you like, how, like, do you have like rituals for how you say goodbye to people?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, so for like my female friends.
Speaker 2:I always make sure I give you guys a hug.
Speaker 1:I always tell you guys, I love you. Um, for an outing that I don't go on because I'd like to go on a date, somebody booked me. Um, it just really depends. It depends on the person. For my mom, I always say I love you. I.
Speaker 1:She's an insomniac, similar to me. Some nights, like yesterday, I can go to sleep. One of the things I love about my mom is I can go to her room and you've got to always announce yourself. That's the ritual. You've got to hey, are you up? She's like, yeah, I come over and we just get in her bed and we just go to sleep. That's the type of stuff that, like, that's the type of stuff. Um, like, that's a ritual, like I can call her and just talk to her, and that's that's another thing I admire about my mom. And I'll be honest with you, steph, like you have rituals, too, that you don't realize you do. Like you biggest night owl, and I crack up because you can watch a whole series. Like we watched a lady and you were able to stay up through the whole thing and I'm like I'm going to bed. You're like you don't have to sleep throughout the whole thing. How are you gonna do it if you want it?
Speaker 2:that is sort of our ritual. It's like I will start a tv show for meal, immediately conks out, and then I have to fill him in on everything. Then he wakes up and claims that he watched it.
Speaker 1:That's it, I didn't whole thing, but I watched parts of it. The premise of the movie was that when she had sex with people, they died in the order she had sex with them and there was a guy who was her sex loophole. And aside from that, the curse is deeper than what she thought the curse was. It was family-oriented. What more do you need to know?
Speaker 2:Wow, because he watched the last episode. He thinks he knows we'll see. We'll wait till season two comes out and I will keep this as a receipt, just uh, so I can do a righteous recall. Um, so I want to talk about like my rituals when I say goodbye to my parents, because I I kind of liked when son shared this and it got me really thinking about, like you know, what are my interactions with my parents like? And I have this habit of like, usually when I'm on my way home from work, I always call my parents and it's always my dad, because my mom never picks up her phone. I guess that in itself is a ritual.
Speaker 1:That's so funny because your mother always answers my phone calls. My mother tries to answer my phone calls, if she can find her phone and it's in the same place that shout out to mama karen, it's so funny not that she's anyway, but it'd be funny because she could never find her phone but whenever I say goodbye to my dad.
Speaker 2:We started doing this thing and I don't know why it started or when, but now we're always like yeah, we see who can like say like bye, I guess longest. And when they come visit, we always have such a good time and we do have, I'm sure, like we usually go out to eat. I guess that in itself is a ritual, but I always like, as they're leaving, I have to watch their car drive away. That is like my ritual.
Speaker 1:My ritual is that if I come over to your home, I'm going to have a great meal and I'm going to spend a lot of money. That's what the ritual is when I live with you. We'll either go shopping. We definitely eat, we eat. The last time we were at PF Chase, I'm like why did I spend this money?
Speaker 2:I feel like my ritual with you two is I feel like our visits are always ending too soon, so I'm always giving you like crap. I'm like why are you leaving you?
Speaker 1:don't need to do that. It is kind of funny because this is me. When have you been over to my place?
Speaker 2:You live far away.
Speaker 1:Oh honey, don't hit me with the. You live far away. You live just as far as I do. No.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, I do like our rituals. I think everybody should have rituals with people. It's kind of cute and fun to think about.
Speaker 1:Like. This is a ritual too and, believe it or not, this weekend we're going to have to watch the real housewives of Potomac and I understand you know nothing about the series I did not watch this whole series but we're going to do a review on the. The reunion, which is going to be a little muy caliente, is what I'll tell you, very, very, very spicy, because there are, without giving away too much the season, think of, like, the Kyle, okay, and she getting hit with the DUI, exactly, and she is always telling people X, y or Z and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and how Kyle's best friend is Dorit and again, this is giving you the label and I'll let you put it together. And Dorit, there's a new girl, bose, who comes in and Bose is like, well, I'm trying to figure it out. And girl, the Kyle of the group is like don't hang out with Dorit. Dorit is crazy, dorit is the Lulu, and Kyle and Dorit go to the White House Now to clear this all up, exactly.
Speaker 1:You see, this is the thing. The drama is universal, honey. The drama is universal. I'm talking about Ron Dom, karen Huger, I'm talking about Dr Wendy Osefo. I love Dr Wendy Osefo. When you get to see her, you'll understand. And there's a new girl, her name is Stacy and there's a lot of stuff that is happening in Potomac this season that is kind of like okay, got it Crazy, crazy, crazy Potomac. I sometimes can understand why people don't want to watch certain things, but the Potomac Housewives are, in my opinion. I'm glad they're redoing Atlanta or a step above. Is that a cat or a dog? I saw your hand. I guess that was how I thought your hand was. The Potomac Housewives are, in my opinion, a little bit different, like adjacent Atlanta, excuse me, not as up there as they're a little bit more established housewives is what I'll tell you. They actually have different. So I can't wait.
Speaker 2:Maybe tonight I'll start watching this past software, so I can't wait for you. Maybe tonight I'll start watching this past season, just so I can get a little.
Speaker 1:Just watch the reunion.
Speaker 2:Trust me, it's too much.
Speaker 1:It's too much of drama. It's too much. Your head will explode. It's too much. We need to do this. Oh, speaking of which, I actually reached out to somebody on Instagram their name is Steven, ironically and they have a profile called the faces of Bravo and he he did a CD chart for the cast of Wicked. So it was like put Elphaba here and then Galinda here, and then the wizard was on the Galinda side, which was slightly hilarious, so I asked him if he'd be a part of an episode and he said he'd be open. So we'll see how that goes we'll bring a third into this into this couple.
Speaker 2:It may be a throuple anyway, I don't know if I feel comfortable with a throuple. I'll think on it, pray on it, you know um. So bows, erica and dorit go to dinner oh goodness. And they all look so fabulous. I just they're all so beautiful and their outfits are great. I just, I just want to give them a shout out. So great, Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful Amen. Amen.
Speaker 1:Amen Amen.
Speaker 2:Amen is right. So you know which comes first I love you or a baby.
Speaker 1:Definitely, definitely I love you, because we were having a whole conversation with son's mama about not saying I love you, because it's implied, um, that's kind of like. That's kind of the question which one, which one comes first. I love you or baby, and you know, I feel like you have to be in love with someone. Okay, logically, you don't, because you can have a baby out of wedlock and out of love and people. You know what, we all know what sex can produce. I always jokingly tell people if gay men could get pregnant, there'd be a lot more babies, honey, there'd be a lot more babies. Just saying saying, just saying I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest misconception in 2025 and beyond is that everyone wants to include everyone in their relationship. We do have conversations about your relationship, you've had conversations about my relationship, but ultimately you're the ultimate deciding factor and vice versa. I feel like when you open everything up and you're not talking directly to the person, that kind of changes things. So she's already said oh, you know, I like this man who traveled halfway across the world for you. To me, that's love. I'm not sitting on a 24 hour flight, I'm not doing it. I'm just not doing it for somebody I don't love you, know like? There is a gentleman that I'm talking to and I slept up and was like I love you, and he was like I love you too. I'm like ugh. And I was like.
Speaker 2:I'm not in love with you.
Speaker 1:I have to make sure that I say that, but, like you, have become a part. Well, I have to.
Speaker 2:I have to tell people See, this is Reba proving her point we over For everything. We need to all.
Speaker 1:Incorrect because we have formed a bond, and this is where I have to rebuttal and say this we formed a bond and a relationship based upon conversation. One of the reasons I love doing this segment with you is that we actually talk weekly, and I know it sounds silly, but this is like our ritual. This is something I'll text you like who's the housewives You're like, yeah, who's the housewives?
Speaker 1:I, yeah, who's in Housewives? I watch that. Do it Like I try to make sure that I come home on a Wednesday and I watch it, so like I'm not ready, you know. So it's kind of a it's a ritual that I'm very pleased that we have and I don't feel like love comes before the baby.
Speaker 2:In some instances it does but or it doesn't but it's supposed to, and I mean it could be. So I think that this is like why maybe people are squawking on the internet. I don't really have like skin in the game on whether whether I think Keely is like opportunistic or whatever. I don't really think it matters. I think that when two people are of a certain age, like when they're dating, you kind of have to have these conversations and like I guess in a lot of respect it's like why would you just say you know I love you without having those conversations? Because you might not know, you guys might not share like the same values, have the same goals, and if that's the case, you know you might not want to wear your heart on your sleeve and be like I love you, cause it can put a lot of undue pressure on people and like maybe you guys aren't on like the same playing field.
Speaker 2:So I don't think it's like scandalous that they haven't said I love you yet. I think it's like mature them having like these adult conversations, like real conversations on like should we get married, should we have a kid? Um, but it wasn't received, I guess, that way by erica and dory, I think they're very much so in the camp of. Well, you need to say I love you before you like start talking about a baby like ramil. What was your read on that?
Speaker 1:I don't think that that's necessarily true. I think, again, it goes back to your relationship and your relationship's different than my relationship, as I just had the conversation with you about said person. I did tell somebody I love them.
Speaker 2:I do, but I'm not asking necessarily about like your thing you can experience. I'm saying like, did you feel like dorit and erica, like definitely feel like you need to say I love you first? Is that how you read that moment?
Speaker 1:and that's what I'm trying to say I feel like they, I feel like you need to say I love you first. Is that how you read that moment? That's what I'm trying to say. I feel like they feel like it is necessary to say I love you before you procure a child. But at the same token and again, I pray that things work out for Doreen and PK. But look at Erica, her first husband. She ain't with him. Her son is our age, which is so shocking.
Speaker 2:Erica looks sensational.
Speaker 1:She does. But when they did the little feet pairing up, I'm like I can tell now. But aside from that, if you show them feet, I'm like you know what, erica, if I was straight. But that's me at the end of there. Oh no, she a bad witch In place of Debbie, would it be? I bow down to Miss Erica Jane, and I'm not saying that like her evolution, we keep on talking about that. But, like every time she levels up, she says something, it's always adding to the equation of the conversation and it's never taking away. But I do have to disagree. Like you can't necessarily put that, you can't say every that. My whole point is everyone's relationship is different. So if he says that I love you but he's not in love with both, then what?
Speaker 2:Do you think that there is like an like, a big distinction, like between saying like I love you and I'm in love with you, like I love you and I'm in love with you Absolutely.
Speaker 1:That's why I told you I was comfortable and, again, this is my perspective. I'm comfortable telling someone that I met a couple of months ago that I love them and that I'm not in love with that person, but with me it's about behaviors, it's about conversations, about consistency, and, you know, I shared with that person. I was like, you know, most consistent person has been in my life this whole time and they're like what am I? Yeah, it was like you, you gotta be joking. I'm like no, we talk every day. We talk multiple times a day, whether it's a text, a Snapchat, a call, a FaceTime, a FaceTime audio. We talk multiple times. So, yeah, ooh, I don't know if it's getting hot in here Cause I'm spreading my tea, or if it's getting hot in here because it's snuggy he's wearing that snuggy guys um gotta flex the muscles pk and dory, baby, I, I, I don't know what is up with dory.
Speaker 2:I feel like she goes from being so pissed at pk to just we're friends. He's back to his old self and I. So basically they have a conversation and if you guys didn't listen last week or watch the episode, last week he sent her papers, basically you know, outlining her behaviors, preparing for divorce. And, um, he did this, you know, nine and a half years after they've been married, which means that she's going there. They're like at risk of having to split their assets. So PK is on like a timeline. Well, they have a conversation and she said you know, they had a conversation and he was my friend again, and Boaz and Erica it looked like their heads were just going to explode, because they know what's up. They know that PK is a businessman and he is a master manipulator of situations. So he will make you feel comfortable before he pounces in for an attack. What say you?
Speaker 1:Agreed, there's nothing to say. I feel like she kept trying to bring up. I'm doing this for the kids. I'm doing this, no, dorit. I think Dorit wants her lifestyle back. I think Dorit is fearful of going through what Erica went through because don't get me wrong, dorit does have her fashion, but her lifestyle was PK. Well, it's one of those types of situations I think you sometimes forget and I'm not even trying to be funny If you have that amount of money flowing into your household, small things don't matter, and small things, money doesn't matter. You're like doing X, you're doing Y, you're doing Z. So yeah, that's all I'll say. I don't have much more to say. I truly do wish them both well, and I hope that they're thinking about it every time that they do something. I hope that they are thinking about the kids. I know that Dorit is, but I also wish that things were different.
Speaker 2:And I'm not trying to like, I guess, say this because I'm trying to throw shade at Dorit, but I feel like Dorit has something that Erica didn't have, and that was somebody with a lot of fresh perspective on divorce, who divorced a lawyer, who was great at manipulating situations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why would it be shade? That's factual.
Speaker 2:No, but like I'm not trying to say like she's stupid or whatever, that's not like my intention here.
Speaker 2:My intention is just like I'm surprised that she went from you know hating PK's guts last episode to you know it kind of it felt like she was wearing those rose colored glasses again and she was like you know things could be getting better and I just really hope that she sees the writing on the walls and takes her friends advice and that she needs to start preparing because ultimately she's going to need to be in a situation where she can care for her kids and like you said, she has you know the TV show.
Speaker 2:She's got her fashion, but it takes a lot more than that to maybe raise kids and I hope that they are just both thinking smart, I guess, in this situation and I really hope that PK isn't as big of a jerk as he is being made out to be. And it did give me kind of a fresh perspective on Mo. I know we've talked about Kyle and Mo's relationship but they've been separated for a lot longer than PK and Dory and they still seem to be getting along amicably. And that could very well be because they've been married a lot longer than 10 years.
Speaker 1:So everything's going to be split 50 50, no matter what well, but on top of that, kyle has a safety net, and in multiple different ways that dorit doesn't. Um, I know dorit's family. She doesn't talk much about her family. I, I think, her father. I don't know I don't want to misspeak.
Speaker 2:Her parents have been on the show a couple times. They probably did discuss what they used to do, but I can't remember.
Speaker 1:It's not the same and my point of what I'm trying to say is it's. Kyle has a safety net. Kyle has been in movies, Kyle has been in a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:Kyle has Kathy and her sister. I mean like I do like to see that they can actually get along in a healthy way.
Speaker 1:And I agree with that and I sometimes think about like a Garcelle and I think of an Erica, and I think of their homes and I think about how realistic their homes are, like Garcelle's home, and I, you know, I jokingly said, oh, her old home, her beach house, is better. Garcelle's home is practical. Garcelle's home is more than likely paid off. She doesn't have this big, dumb, extravagant house, god forbid. If she was in a situation like Kyle, I wouldn't want to live in that big ass house, I wouldn't. And you know, um, I'm kinda and I hate to say this, I'm happy that I don't. I like I didn't, I didn't invest in the you know, the home that I was in with my previous, because it would have been bad.
Speaker 1:You know that was a conversation I had with him. Like you wonder why I never had, I always bought technology. He was like, well, you never, you never. I'm like, yeah, because I can't take anything with me. I said all of the stuff that I paid for, I can't take it with me. I said I paid your seat links, I got your, your, your plaster fix. I can't take any of that with me. Like that's not something I can take with me. I did see a picture of Truff today and I was just like, oh, he's still alive, he's not dead. He's not dead, god forbid. He's not dead. I'm getting a cheat. I'm getting a cheat. One day he's going to be well-mannered too. I'm going to be like sit down, sit down, don't talk to your dog that way you?
Speaker 1:don't talk to your dog that way.
Speaker 2:I do not. I have never, ever cursed at Casey.
Speaker 1:You cursed at Smokey, yeah.
Speaker 2:You cursed at Smokey. Yeah, smokey is different. Smokey will be outside of the bedroom just like clawing at the door, like what?
Speaker 1:You want to know why? It's because he's black. Don't listen to me. I just had to say that that cat is bad. I have to tell this quick side, this shady segue, really quickly, guys. I was minding my business. Now, I'm definitely allergic to cats of my business. Now I'm definitely allergic to cats. And you know, shout out to Karen, steph's mom, who taught me that it's the pet's dandruff. But anyway, every time that I come over to Steph's which I'm gracious and I'm very appreciative she has to go through this whole situation where she washes the sheets and makes sure that girl and I try to lint roll them too, just to make sure.
Speaker 1:That's not why I say girl, girl, I get in that bed one day, close the door. I look to my left. I say what are you doing? Usually he goes. Well, that's his room it ain't his room right now.
Speaker 1:He better get up out this house. But uh, yeah, I, I don't know. I feel like we're getting to a crescendo, crescendo. I feel like it's getting to that point like we're almost there for the season, like we're almost there where it's just gonna be drama, drama, drama, drama, drama. Like where I just I feel it. And again, every time I watch these trailers, I'm just like like next week's episode where it's like I just I feel it. And again, every time I watch these trailers, I'm just like Like next week's episode where it's like stop playing, stop doing like Not Garcella, I was getting into it.
Speaker 2:I got to say it's probably about time those two needed to have words.
Speaker 1:So that's the thing that I'll say. I was very appreciative because usually black women go for each other. So I'm interested how the conversation is going to go next week. But you know neither here nor there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm interested too. So I do want to talk about the conversation that Reba has with Sutton at the end of the episode. It's kind of how we close out the episode. Basically, sutton is talking about her upcoming fashion show with her new line and she wants her mom to come and they finally, you know, have their conversation. I do think it's funny how, when Sutton is talking about her fashion and is like talking about like the barcodes or whatever, because it needs to be made in like london, her mom's like it's kind of like ground beef it's like it's nothing like ground beef.
Speaker 1:Mother it's kind of like ground beef and cube. It says it's made here but it's not made.
Speaker 2:I'm like it was funny. I just think that that was like a moment where you kind of see that, though sutton and her mom are a lot of like, they're very different in like what their interests are and like kind of like where their skill set is. And I think that Sutton's mom comes from more of like the practical side she's a therapist, she uses ground beef references and Sutton's more of like the dancer flowery fashionista, which is totally fine. It's great to be different, but they are alike. Flowery fashionista, which is totally fine. It's great to be different, but they are alike.
Speaker 1:I also give Sutton a shout-out and say I'm very appreciative to her bare face. She looked phenomenal. I didn't know her without makeup.
Speaker 2:When she was putting on her makeup.
Speaker 1:No, before. There were a lot of times in the season where I was like okay, Sutton, I see you. Obviously she's probably a natural brunette versus being in blonde, but she looks good, you know.
Speaker 2:So I think all the ladies look really good. I think Sutton does look really good. Um, I thought her fashion line, or like some of the items that we saw, were cute her mom.
Speaker 2:Does you know, tell her I'm proud of you. I just don't really feel like I need to to say it. I feel like you should kind of know it and I do feel like in, um, maybe, sutton and her parents relationship, her dad was probably more of like the loving hey, I'm proud of you person and that's why her mom maybe had to take a back seat on some of that stuff, or chose to take a back seat on some of that stuff. She maybe had to be the tougher parent and, um, I I just thought it was nice how it ended. It seemed like the dinner went really well. They all got crab cakes, but I didn't Um, I do so. There was a little bit of controversy online. I love the online controversy. I follow all of like the real Housewives, like Facebook or pages or whatever, and some lady was giving Sutton's mom a lot of crap for making Sutton cook crab cakes, like the day after her father had passed away and she burnt them. What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2:I want to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:What are your thoughts on this? I want to be honest with you, if you also listen to the episode that Sutton said that her mother had the recipe and she didn't make it right, did she not? She didn't Correct, so, realistically, I don't think that she made her and, again, this is one of those types of situations. I think it was. Hey, it's christmas eve. This is probably a tradition. This is probably a what a ritual. Let's make these crab cakes. That's probably what happened. Yeah, she burned them. But going back to reality, my history of events and certain things are different than your history of events, and that's all I want to say. Oh my goodness, this man, man, get every get out of here Every episode.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. I never do. I ever do this during never. I'm so respectful.
Speaker 1:Eugene, come here. Come here. Don't, don't, don't, don't, be awkward. Come here, come here. You want to be a part of who's the Housewives so badly? Come here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what do you think eugene mills in his uh tank top must be getting?
Speaker 1:hot in here it was I had to take off the snuggie. So, eugene, yeah, if, for whatever reason, I, um was unalive and I was your pops and your mom asked you to make crab cakes and you burnt them, do you feel, and just to be honest with you, your mother's like cuckoo in the situation and she does not tell you she loves you or anything, do you feel like your mom would be in the wrong? Yeah, you said yes so I mean, we can unpack this for a few seconds if you want to.
Speaker 2:Can I? Can I? Can he phone a friend? Can I respond for him?
Speaker 1:Can you talk to?
Speaker 2:my secretary, Stephanie. She's really good.
Speaker 1:You're my favorite department.
Speaker 2:My thought on this is this was Sutton's dad's specialty dish and it was something that they shared together. And sometimes in a trauma situation you start to have negative associations with certain things, and I think Sutton's mom, in this case, wanted her to make the crab cakes, so she wouldn't be fearful down the road to make them. I think that it was kind of like a weird type of immersion therapy in a way, like she just wanted her to like, be able to like make them and have that positive memory or, you know, continue to maybe think that it's a positive memory. Stop laughing at me. I have a point here.
Speaker 1:No, that's not why I'm laughing A little bit small time. No one needs to hear anything from you. I was laughing because of Eric and Jay Little bit small time. I don't need to hear anything from you. I'm sorry. When you said negative memory and positive, it immediately went to that, because you know how my brain works. It's just like, oh, I have to get a lawyer, for what? For what? Oh, this little small time. I don't have to say anything here.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, no, but my thought is is like, sometimes, like when you, when you experience a great loss, you're scared to do things that like maybe you shared with that person afterwards, because that was something that you and them shared together and it feels wrong to do it without them. So maybe this was her mom's way of trying to preserve that memory with Sutton and her father. Um, so, screw all the haters out there. I didn't like them, I didn't like the comment. I'm just, uh, you know, making conversation.
Speaker 1:I do feel like it's just it's your life is different than my life, than than the next, and it's just not that serious, like Like I'm not even trying to be like a jerk, it's just not that serious. But I feel like what you said is probably more than the reason, so that's all Wow Again.
Speaker 2:So we're just going to circle back. We are having a tea and cookies day, and Ramil will also be making crab cakes that day.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a whole smorgasbord for Stephanie.
Speaker 2:I always cook for you. You know what. It's time that I get treated.
Speaker 1:Fine, you have to come over to the Westwood.
Speaker 2:The Westwing.
Speaker 1:The Westwood.
Speaker 2:Gosh, it can't come. Right now it's really snowy. Did you see the roads?
Speaker 1:Why do you think I was wearing a snuggie, but apparently okay, you know what? How about this? How about this?
Speaker 2:How about to celebrate? Did you have a quotable quote for the episode? Just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1:Oh man, let's see, probably Garcelle's I didn't write it down, but probably Garcelle's. Well, you know what did she say? Like oh yeah, you are, you are. Maybe I'm misspeaking. Yeah, maybe you are. Maybe there was more of a quotable scene. That was funny. Well, let me go get my friends and they're all standing on the staircase listening. They all kind of scatter. I'm just like where are you going?
Speaker 2:They kind of scatter upstairs and it's just like you guys aren't getting away. It's not like you can make a quick exit with that. I did like Bo's, and it wasn't a funny quote, but I felt like it was a real quote. It feels like a trick and I feel like Dorit should get that tattooed somewhere private on her body so she doesn't ever forget that it probably is a trick. That's good advice from a friend.
Speaker 1:I love those. So this is SGR, aka Ramil and Steffi Hazelnuts. Hi guys, shout out to you once again, neil and Steffi Hazelnuts. Shout out to you once again and yeah, this was who's the Housewives, and we'll tap in soon for the Potomac and Beverly Hills. Maybe we'll do like a split episode and condense it down to who knows, talk to you guys.
Speaker 2:Bye, guys, bye.