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Wheaux & Housewives - RHOBH: Land of the Free, Home of the Shade
Remember the warmth of family traditions and the bittersweet journey of motherhood? That's where we start as we revisit Sutton's touching moment with her mom, Reba, in Augusta, and share our own 4th of July memories filled with laughter and delicious food. Boz’s bravery in recounting her experience with preeclampsia and the tragic loss of her first child, Eve, brings a heartfelt depth to our conversation. It's a poignant reminder of how fear can both hinder and motivate us in pursuing our dreams, as Boz contemplates expanding her family with Keely amidst the support of friendship and community.
Ever found yourself in a social mishap at a glamorous gathering? Join us as we humorously navigate the unspoken social rules of the Real Housewives, from themed outfits to awkward exchanges over luxury handbags. We dive into the dynamics among Kyle, Boze, Dorit, and Sutton, exploring the humor and tension that arise when technology fails us or when party etiquette isn't quite followed. Through stories of personal experiences and the intricacies of friendships, we dissect the glamorous yet challenging world of the Housewives, where loyalty and social cues are in constant play.
What happens when relationships evolve and friendships face trials? We reflect on the heartache and growth that come with long-term relationships changing over time, particularly through Kyle's journey with Mo and the shifting dynamics in her friendships. With a sprinkle of Bravo fun facts and a quirky tale about Jennifer Tilly's travel companion, we bring a light-hearted end to this episode. Celebrate the laughter and loyalty that bind us together, and get ready for more Housewives tales as we continue our exploration of the social intricacies in the episodes to come.
Welcome to who's the Housewives. It's your boy, sgr, and your girl Steph.
Speaker 2:What's going on everyone?
Speaker 1:Hey, hey. So, Steph, what's this episode called?
Speaker 2:It is called the Land of the Free and the Home of the Shade. Dun dun dun.
Speaker 1:Oh, bum, can you give us that lovely episode recap that you usually do so well?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we start off in Augusta and I know we feel like we've been there for like three episodes, but it's wrapping up. Sutton finally gets her mom to say that she loves her, which is very precious, very nice. I'm glad to see that they had that moment. Reba shout out to Reba, she's awesome. And then we see our girl Adoreet inviting everybody over to her house for a 4th of July barbecue. Now, ramil, I would like to ask you what are your 4th of July traditions? What do you like to do on the 4th of July?
Speaker 1:I think don't celebrate it. It really depends. In the past it has been like a bonfire. It's a kickback. It really just depends. To be transparent, my 4th of July ain't got nothing to do with this. Now I can't wait until you get into more questions, but I have so much to say because I watched this episode. I watched like every other episode, because you do a good job of recapping and then some episodes just be dragging, but this episode I kind of want to take a shady segue back for a second. Okay, let's do it. Reba appears anytime you talk about her, so I'm shocked that she didn't pop up on the side of you and the whole I love you was hilarious, because she's like you ain't getting another one this year.
Speaker 2:She's like maybe I'll just write it down and hold it up for you. This is funny.
Speaker 1:But yeah, like, what are your plans you should include.
Speaker 2:So the last couple of years we've had our friends John and April shout out to them. I love them. They're our friends from Buffalo, new York. They've been kind of coming to visit on the 4th of July and we always have a good time. Sometimes we just hang out on the porch and we get some good food. We've gone rafting before, so that's kind of a fun tradition. I love to eat all of like the traditional fourth of july foods, like the hot dogs, the hamburgers, the potato salad. I'm here for it, so that's my fourth of july oh, can I.
Speaker 1:Can I at least get a hot dog?
Speaker 2:get out erica jane literally, that is, she is my spirit animal. Um, I don't know if you remember, ramil, but my favorite restaurant is in fact the hot dog place.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was Yesterdog in Grand Rapids, don't think I forgot. But before we get into all the quotable quotes, please ask some more questions, because I know you're going to ask something and I can't wait to touch it.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're leading the witness right now. No, I'm just kidding. Have you ever bedazzled anything, Ramil?
Speaker 1:No, absolutely not. I feel like that's a pointless. Bowles, I'm proud of you, but the reason why I think it's pointless is because they always fall off. That's why I think it's pointless. That's why what about you?
Speaker 2:I mean I feel like you got to use some like good builder gel or something to get stuff to really like stick. But I definitely bedazzled in college. I think I was in a sorority, so bedazzling was like part of the way of life.
Speaker 2:So I bedazzled like my cap for my cap and gown before I graduated, so like my parents and people could see like where I was at and I put like what year I was, I guess, even though it was kind of obvious and what program I graduated from, so bedazzled, I haven't dabbled in it in a while, though I should probably get back to my roots.
Speaker 2:I feel like it takes a lot of time, but show like t-shirt so bo's cousin tina comes for a visit and so I found out something that I didn't know. Um, both has actually lost a child. Uh, she's talking to her cousin tina about her first pregnancy. She said that she suffered from preeclampsia. It creates like essentially, I think, like high blood pressure during the pregnancy, which makes it dangerous for mom and baby, and unfortunately baby Eve very sadly did pass away and Bo's just kind of is forthright in saying that she's scared to have a kid, especially with Keely, because it's 15 years later. And you know, I guess there's a lot of thought out there that the longer you wait, the more medical issues that can come up. So what are your thoughts on that, ramil?
Speaker 1:My heart goes out to her because she didn't have to share her story. So shout out to Bose for that. I like her vulnerability. And you know this is another show, but it's on Bravo, called Myriad of Medicine. A lot of times Black women are not taken serious about their pains and their issues and so on and so forth. Pregnancy is a little bit more of a known medical discovery. But I appreciate that she has the closeness to be able to talk to her cousin Tina. What say you?
Speaker 2:I mean, I was just really sad to hear about the whole situation. You know my heart definitely goes out to Bo's. I would very much so be scared to have any kids after that situation and the fact that she's wanting to have kids again. I'm very proud of her and I hope everything goes well for her and Keely. I really do. I just pray for everyone's safety all the time. But it got me wondering has fear ever prevented you from doing something that you've wanted to do Because it's kind of like, or is it a driving force? Some people like the fear feeling and they just lean into things, and other people it prevents them from doing things.
Speaker 1:It depends on the instance. If it's like something life-threatening, like no, I'm not going to stop myself, or I'm going to stop myself from doing something if it's life-threatening. But if it's not life-threatening, I definitely, like I, lean into the fear a little bit more. This is a sensitive subject. Another housewife I can't remember her name right now, but her husband's name is Sergio Caroline Caroline Stanberry and Sergio from the Real Housewives of Dubai. He wants her to have a baby. He doesn't want to do surrogacy because surrogacy is not allowed in Dubai. So they would have to have the baby one place and another place. He's like, oh, you have to carry the baby. No, no, no baby. You have to carry the baby and I'm just like you don't understand what it can potentially do to her and hurt her.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing I think men sometimes are so focused on. I want it to be this way, that they're not able to look at different things. So, going back to your question about fear, I think that fears are driving force for a lot of people, but reality is even a bigger driving force because, like you know, are you putting mom and baby at risk, or are you putting baby at risk? Are you putting no one at risk. You know, because Candy, her latest daughter Blaze, was a surrogate. She had the baby via surrogacy. The baby looks just like her kids, but that's something else. She had the baby via surrogacy. The baby looks just like her kids, but that's something else. She had the hairy baby because she went through heck and back when she carried her son Ace.
Speaker 2:So yeah, and I do think I like that the conversation with like pregnancy has kind of expanded to talk about a lot of these issues, because I do think in the past a lot of people were sort of, unless they were a woman that was going through pregnancy, they were sort of not aware of all these potential issues that could come up. But now I feel like a lot of people are speaking out about these issues. So I hope it gives both some power and some hope out there and I hope that they do find a good solution for their pregnancy situation. I hope it's successful situation.
Speaker 1:I hope it's successful.
Speaker 2:So, Suri, what's the temperature like out there? Sorry, I just had to do it.
Speaker 1:I hear her do it again because you know what early this morning I had to press pause. It's currently. I said okay, you know what I'm not. I get so tired of Kyle. Kyle, call these people. Girl. I done said this. I don't know how many Call these people. Hold the button down. Production. Stop filming this woman saying that, because I got too much technology through my house and every time she says something the answer is I don't know who's speaking. I don't need you to say that, so, but anyway.
Speaker 2:That totally just backfired on me too, because I forgot that the last time you were over, you like set up my voice controls on my phone, which I've never had set up before, and it literally just went off.
Speaker 1:And I was like no, yeah, it backfired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it totally backfired. So it seems like Kyle has potentially a little bit of beef with Miss Pose. Erica comes over to Kyle's house and they're talking about the fourth of july barbecue and they bring up the fact that you know bows at kathy's party called kyle cold, uh-oh, um. So you know, I just am wondering like what the situation is going to be with that and I guess we just kind of get to see it. But I did want to ask you uh, they do kind of a flashback of like uh dorit's holiday pictures, like her theme outfits. Do theme outfits slay or are they passe?
Speaker 1:passe for sure. Um, some of them are good, some of them are bad. I feel like the girls look nice on this episode, but I do. I gotta tackle that first part, like perception is reality, and I crack up because what's deep to one person is not deep to another person. That's why I like so part of me kind of like I'm always on the Bose train, but part of me is just like Bose, you're reaching here, what more do you want to know about this woman? What more do you want to know about, like I get it, you come off close. She's like I thought we've had real genuine relationships. But then I kind of look at it from Bose's perspective too and I'm just like I can see, because it is probably surface level you haven't had a deep conversation. The first time you had a deep conversation was.
Speaker 2:I'm not showing this text messages.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing this, she could just go off. I'm not doing this, I'm not doing this and it's very like, ah, I can kind of see both perspective, but I wouldn't call her cold. I wouldn't have called Kyle cold in this instance. I probably would have told her like I wouldn't have called her cold. That's just my opinion and I mean it's the best verbiage that you can use. But I don't think she's cold. I just think that she's not on the same level of friendship as she is with Dorit and Kyle. You know, that's what I think Like. There's levels to it, you know, and you know I want you to ask more questions.
Speaker 2:I know you're going to ask because, yeah, go ahead. I just sort of feel like perhaps a lot of Kyle and Boze's interactions have all centered around Dorit. And none of it is about Boze and her life and none of it's really about Kyle and her life specifically. So Boze doesn't feel like it is deep because it's always about like this same issue that we've been dealing with all season. So I can understand the perspective there. I can, I totally can.
Speaker 2:Hey, finally we agree so sutton, uh, arrives at dorit's party first of course she does um, miss sutton, and she's wearing her star spangled banner like tiara and she has her like mini birkin, that's blue, and you know it's kind of awkward. She kind of makes note that you know when you are throwing a party you should have somebody there to kind of greet your guests as they arrive. And it got me wondering, Ramil, what is good party etiquette Like? What is your party etiquette? Let's you act as the host.
Speaker 1:Let's be clear, first and foremost. No housewife is on time ever. No housewife is on time ever. So do I feel like it should have took Dorit 37 minutes to put the necklace on? Absolutely not. But at the same token, I feel like Dorit could have breathed and Sutton would have been upset. When tensions are high, you're going to find a reason why. And again, I'm going to say this really simple when tensions are high, you're going to find a reason why. And we all know them, birkins ain't cheap. The Birkins girl give me a Birkin, but she's like oh no, I like. Maybe I'm jumping a little bit, but like, no, this is mine, I deserve this. Oh no, you don't. I deserve this. Oh no, you don't Like. How are you going to cover somebody else's purse? How are you not going to be on time? Party etiquette to me is like you know, when I host, I interact with people, I talk to everybody, you joke around with people. You can't be a stiff leg, you can't be.
Speaker 2:So and I people, you can't be a stiff leg, you can't be. So I sort of felt like dory in that moment with the purse and being like, no, I'm gonna keep it, it's mine, I earned this kind of thing. Um, very, very awkward. I was waiting for her to like laugh or smile or make it seem like a joke and she was like wanting. She was wanting that purse for, like the that Sutton has put her through, it was really cringy. I don't like it.
Speaker 1:I think the thing that really upset me and Kyle and Sutton often do this and I know you're going to get into it, but they do this juxtaposition where they're like I don't understand why I don't understand, why I don't see why I don't do it Calm down, calm down. But as soon as they're in that boat, as soon as they're in that boat, they flip-flop. So I'm going to let you, because I know your question is going to get there. I know it is.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't know, we'll see, okay. Okay, so Kyle arrives and we see Dorit's shrine to PK and it just got me wondering where should you keep your shrine? If you have one to somebody like, should you keep it at the front of your house where your guests are entering your party? Should it be in a closet? Should it be in the basement? Where should it be ramil?
Speaker 1:I don't think your guests should have any way to kind of tell you and it was kind of funny like they the shrine was of them. Y'all know what the truth is. It's not like she's trying to hide it anymore. So why can't she have her home house? She has her home. And later on in the episode we kind of uncover like there are people that will be like they've been housewives. But don't go in the basement. The basement isn't done, don't go here. This isn't done.
Speaker 1:And again, I know we to that, but I feel like it's her home, so she can keep it where she wants to. She could hang it from a ceiling, doesn't matter, it's her home. Maybe she wants to see that when she first walks in. Maybe that's, you know, giving her the good memory or so on and so forth. I kind of like I felt a way because, kyle, no one can tell you how to grief. No one can tell you how to go through divorce. Neither one of you women and we said this earlier in the episodes of the season have went through a divorce like this. So why aren't you supporting each other? Pk and Mo are best friends. Why aren't y'all supporting each other?
Speaker 2:So the big kind of bomb that gets dropped here is. You know, they all go outside to have a civilized conversation and of course it's like not civilized Sutton's drinking a drink, trying to mind her business. Just let me get there, Let me get there, Let me get there.
Speaker 1:Almost bugger bust, though Garcelle almost busted a bug. Yeah, she did. Okay, she almost fell out of the house.
Speaker 2:That was funny. But you know, basically somebody asked Sutton what she's drinking, I think along the lines of that, and Dorit says and this is after the whole purse debacle, like a few minutes earlier, she's like you know, of course, you know it's Sutton, of course there's alcohol in that drink. And then we see receipts of, like you know, dorit throwing shade at Sutton for potentially, maybe in her opinion, having issues with alcohol. So I guess is Sutton being a bitch to be a bitch? That's what Dorit says. Or is Dorit kind of poking a bear in the ass Like I don't know, ramil, what's for you?
Speaker 1:Both of them have accountability. One Sutton has already addressed she does not like being called an alcoholic. I've had conversations with you previous people in the past. To me, alcoholic, or like alcoholism, is someone who is dependent upon it and they cannot function without it. You having a drink every night, every, every other day, whatever else, like that, that to me is not alcoholism. That's not me, that's not an addiction, that's not me.
Speaker 1:Sutton, carrying her grapefruit grape I don't like grapefruit juice, I think it's disgusting but her carrying a little ocean spray to put it on there, what's wrong with that? You know what I'm saying. In my opinion, what's wrong with that, however, I kind of like I was team Sutton until she hit her with the you a bitch. And then, when she hit her with you a bitch, I'm like oh lord, this ain't gonna go over. Well, don't call me a bitch in my home. Don't call me a bitch in my home, don't call me a bitch. I'm like but, dorita, like I, I hear you. But babe, like you don't know how long she's been sitting downstairs. So, like I said, you know it didn't matter. There was an issue that was going to persist. Like no, it presented itself no matter what, but like she came early and I'm like Sutton, you're never early, like Sutton is never early for anything, come late stick to the script.
Speaker 2:Come late so.
Speaker 1:I think that that was a teetering point. As soon as she calls her a bitch about the as soon as she calls her about the liquor and she calls her a bitch. It was just like all hell's bells, put the Birkin down. Hold my Birkin, hold my poodle, I'm coming for you. Hold Birkin, hold my poodle, I'm coming for you. And that's basically what happened, and I was just like, oh, this is good. Did this really just happen?
Speaker 2:Let me so. So I guess, like, what are? Like, really, what are your thoughts on this? So, like you go to somebody's house and things are awkward, Like I guess my first question here is you know, if you're having like a fallout with somebody, you know it, the other person knows it, like, do you invite them to your party number one and number two? Like, if you do, like, do you bring up the issue at the party?
Speaker 1:Two things. One if I'm having an issue with someone, I try to invite people to parties. They all know some good spirit stuff. They don't come. That's number one. Number two no, that is not the time. That's not the time. And obviously they're on a reality TV show about their lives or whatever. But like, hey, son, can we talk about this on a one-on-one Like?
Speaker 2:I understand you're upset. I'm upset.
Speaker 1:You get that I'm going through a divorce. You went through a divorce. I should be leaning on you as a sisterhood. We keep bringing up the sisterhood, but like it was not a good time. But again, this is a bear trying to get some honey. That is and that is. And the beehive? It's not a beehive, it's a wasp nest. It's like a killer wasp nest. Trackerjackers, katniss Everdeen, they're going to come and get you and I don't know who was what or which was what, but it was a bear and a wasp nest and I'm just like what is going on here? I was all for the drama. I'm not going to lie to you. I was all in I wasp's nest and I'm just like what is going on here? I was all for the drama. I'm not gonna lie to you. I was all in. I was like oh, this is some good stuff. Eat my imaginary popcorn.
Speaker 2:Okay, so have you ever gone to somebody's house in this situation? I know you said that you just like you get the invite and you just don't go to the party. I feel like that's how most of us would probably handle this situation. Until you could talk to this person. Like you just don't go. But would you go ever, or have you ever gone?
Speaker 1:I went to a party where I was invited and I just kind of made up with a friend, um at the time, and my friend or, you know, associate, I don't know friend at the time, came to the party late. I got there at two. They didn't get there until four. I was leaving at 4.30 regardless. So I gotta go to my grandma's house, gotta go. Bye, bye. My other friend rolled with me so we both Pieced up out of there at 4.30. That's my energy. I shouldn't have to wait for you For a party, for you. Bye, oh, you leaving. I just got here. Yeah, it's 4.15, 4.30. I gotta go. I gotta go. I'm gone. I'm not doing this. I think it comes down to you're smiling because you know, stephanie, you know how I operate, you know I'll be the first to go.
Speaker 2:Well, it's time to go. We got a timetable. We gotta go 15 minutes. That's all I got.
Speaker 1:If I was on Housewives, they'd hate me a lot. Oh no, the party's over what? But you said seven o'clock and it's now nine. I'm going to bed. Shut it all down, get out of my house. Are you serious? That's a heart attack. You gotta go. You can't stay here, no more. Wait what? Why are you rhyming? Does it matter? Bye, I don't want you here, like that's my energy. You know that's how I operate. Okay, bye, y'all.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so do you feel? I guess my question is would you ever, number one, call a person a bitch in their house their own home? And number two have you ever done something like that?
Speaker 1:It doesn't have to be the B word, it could be like any kind of you know, once you think about our history, I feel like I have said that to you and you've said it to me, and we both said it to each other in a joking manner. But I wanted some serious stuff. When tensions are high, I don't think it's appropriate. I don't think and I understand that, sutton, there's no different.
Speaker 2:But again, these women are so sensitive when it's pointed towards them but as soon as they do it to somebody else, I caught you, a crazy son, replace the s with the c. But like you call that and it was okay, and like bose comes in and she's like you bitches get out of my way. Like I mean like that's how she entered the house, so like clearly the b word is not like off the table, but it's not off the table.
Speaker 1:But it's not off the table. But the thing that I always say is that when it's a serious conversation, read the room and I get it Suddenly, you are upset. But when, like today, was not a great day for me, but I couldn't overreact and go crazy and cuss people out. Look, Dorit, I don't like that. You hit me with the liquor stuff. I know you're going through some stuff, because as soon as I say, this is me. As soon as I say something, as soon as I retaliate, you're going to be angry. So before I say what I'm about to say, do I have full authority to say it? Well, yeah, you can say whatever you want. Okay, well then you like I would hit you with that.
Speaker 1:Like I've already told you, we didn't have the conversation at the reunion. I've had this conversation multiple times. I don't like that. You keep bringing up the fact that I drink as if it is a true problem. And again, love Erica, Jane Heart, go out to her. But when she was making her alcohol and her medication, that was a completely different Erica. I could see if Dorit had said that to her. I'd be laughing. Erica would just be there.
Speaker 2:She'd be like when she comes to the party. I'm dressed in slutty American.
Speaker 1:That'd be it. That'd be it.
Speaker 2:So I guess you know Sutton and Dorit have their words and Sutton decides like hey, I want to leave. The girls are trying, like Garcelle Kyle and I think, want to leave. The girls are trying like Garcelle um Kyle and I think Erica for a little bit, are trying to like get her to stay. I think Kathy is sort of in on that mix. But it got me kind of wondering. Like wellness day versus fourth of July party. Everyone was so pissed at Kyle for leaving wellness day. Is there like a difference there? Like I mean, why is it okay for you know sutton to leave this party when there's an issue and I I personally don't even feel like sutton was being attacked as bad as kyle was. I felt like multiple girls were sort of coming at kyle and they were talking about like the drama, whereas this was more between like dory and just sutton. Like is there a difference?
Speaker 1:yes, the difference is that they were looking for information. That's what it was, if you paid attention to that episode. They were looking for information from Kyle. They were expecting Kyle to own it, in the great words of Lisa Rinna, and come out and come forth and tell them all the tea, all the hot guys, whereas in this situation, someone was upset because you called her name about an instance that she's already addressed. But, on the flip side, I understand where Dorit was coming from, because this is still raw, this is still fresh. The breakup. When did the breakup happen?
Speaker 2:Like, April, I mean, it's fairly recent. At this point, this is July.
Speaker 1:This is July. Like honey, you can't do this to these people and then expect them not to retaliate. That would be no different than how long did it take you to have your mom tell you that you love or she love you, and then somebody's like, well, that's not that big of a deal. My mom tells me I love them all the time. Forget your problems. Like it's going to strike a nerve and strike a core. So I'm waiting for it. I feel like it's about to come up. Go ahead and ask that question.
Speaker 2:So Bose comes in to chat with the ladies. I knew it was about to happen and I don't know how I feel about this. I have to like bow down to Bose in some ways, because she's got balls of steel Like she really does. Like she just. Why did I come up with that?
Speaker 1:Like, like she just Like why are these bitches in the front? Why are they in the front? This is so rude. You are all being rude and this is the one time I'm like. But you know, I had a conversation with somebody today. It was like you know one thing that I admire about you. I was like what it's like, you know, when you make a decision you don't flip-flop. I said, oh, I ain't got no reason to, because I know what I'm talking about. Like, I get it, I will. At the end of the day, there's onus on both parts. I do feel that blow, blows, blows, blows, blows has blind loyalty because she does not know the history. I'm not watching 14 cities or 13. I don't know what season we are.
Speaker 1:I'm not watching 14 seasons or 13, I don't know what season we on I'm not watching. I'm team them out of season 13, previous seasons of the Real Housewives, beverly Hills, that's over. I don't even know how many episodes of my life that. I don't care, and not everybody was on every season and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah in every episode. But I don't need to know the history. If it was important, you need to tell me.
Speaker 1:Dorit was the one person and this is how this goes, and this isn't the only franchise that it goes in. If we are an established clicking crew and we bring somebody else in, it's like oh, don't talk to Stephanie, stephanie, real messy. I don't like that. She do this. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Sgr is not messy, he does this, he does like. There's something with Everyone In every segment, in every like. Like housewife franchise. I get so upset. I was upset at Bose at this time I'm like you're kind of stepping in it because when we played this replay back and girl, I love her loyalty with Dorit. You're being rude. Get over it. Get in this house. Why y'all sitting in the front?
Speaker 2:I felt like the reason why they were sitting in front and it's just me being over here, like I it might have been rude behavior, but I feel like what would have been worse is them yelling, crying in front of a bunch of kids that are outside trying to drink their snow cones and like go on the water slides and stuff. Like nobody wants that, like it's kind of better that they were separate so that people didn't have to hear their bull spit. But oh yeah, she really stepped in it, man, she did she stepped in it Great heels.
Speaker 1:Listen, did she step in it or did she step in it for her friend? Because one thing that had me going and I was waiting for you to ask this question is when Garcelle tried to check Bo's and Bo's was like I don't have to know, you're being rude.
Speaker 2:Garcelle and Boze had a couple moments during this episode where, like you know, garcelle is basically like are you three's spokesperson? Like and I mean it's a valid question and I think what you're saying is right. Like you know, like Boze doesn't know all the history with, like the girls and the way that they do things typically, and Bose just doesn't even give a crap, she's just coming in like a wrecking ball man.
Speaker 1:But the thing that cracked me up is it's no different if you were friends with somebody. You're riding for your friend Garcelle, did you have the place to address the I love you with Sutton, with her mama? No, you didn't. Rebo's like I don't think that's your place. I think you're over here overstepping, but I feel like that point was pivotal because somebody else cared enough about your daughter to have that conversation with you, which I do feel like added to the layer to soften the blow, for you to feel comfortable to say I love you.
Speaker 1:So Bo's being someone standing up for Dorit in her home saying like, look, I get to this drama, but why are we sitting in the front of the foyer? Let's go back out here. I feel like again two different situations. They're trying to get information. If somebody want to go and there ain't no tea to be spilled, let them leave. She already wasn't welcome. She already didn't feel welcome. You Let him leave. She already wasn't welcome. She already didn't feel welcome. You know I already tried to take this woman's purse. You ain't taking my Birkin. You know you ain't taking my Birkin. If I ever get a Birkin, it's going to be me. Hold my Birkin, hold my poodle. Hold my poodle.
Speaker 2:So. But so essentially, dorit ends up calling and this kind of made me just I know that Dorit's in her own house and everything, I'll give her that. But she calls, she says don't be a bitch, don't be a vile person, don't be a douche. And I just like felt like. I feel like that might be stuff that you say when the cameras aren't around. I don't know it. Just it felt. It felt really it was a deep jab.
Speaker 1:It is a deep jab. You've noticed everything that Dorit said this season has been very pointed and very elevated. Everything that she says is a dig to get you to get upset, because in the past she does not really raise her voice. She does over-talk people, but I do feel like Sutton is not compassionate when it does not come to her. When they did a little flashback when she was talking about her telling about Jagger and Sutton, was like okay, we gotta, go, we gotta go, we gotta go, we gotta go.
Speaker 1:like that wasn't the time, baby, y'all don't ever be on time anyway. So can't you tell this little five-minute story? Maybe it wasn't relevant to you, maybe maybe you could have added a personal antidote where you were like I keep saying antidote. You know what I'm trying to say. You're a personal affect from the past. Where you sit and you had a conversation with your, your, about your son and her son and how it impacted each other or something. So like that's the humanity that like it kills me, because it's like when you're in it you don't see anything else. We didn't already talk about it? Kyle, love her to death, but Kyle will sit up here. She's got to answer these questions. She's got to do this. I don't have to answer anything. I don't want to do this Same thing with Sutton. I don't understand. Name him, name him.
Speaker 1:I don't think that it's appropriate that you're doing this. I don't feel, baby, he was mad that ain't nobody Ugly leather pants. Sorry, you know how my brain works.
Speaker 2:Excuse me.
Speaker 1:You know how my brain catches like that. She was wearing pants, she wanted to be danced on, and then I made me think of the ugly leather pants. Who's Hunky Dory?
Speaker 2:No, my Mole hill out of the mountains, mole hills out of the mountains. That was Kathy.
Speaker 1:I love Melissa Kathy. Mole hills or mountains, or is it mountains out of mole hills? She be so like. I want to be rich one day to where I don't give a hoot what I say, is it. Moe Hills out of mountains or mountains out of mountains. There's no homeless and toothless and toothless and homeless and toothless, and homeless and toothless. Kathy Hilton, I feel like maybe just have her be a commentator on every other episode, because she'd just be hilarious, because she'd just be there. No, that's not my problem.
Speaker 2:And she's like there with her fan, just like in the middle of this drama, just like sunning herself.
Speaker 1:It's a very valid statement, bo's.
Speaker 2:So let's take it back here. The vibes aren't vibing with Kyle, so you know Kyle takes this time while they're all talking about both stepping in it to kind of say you know both. I sort of felt like you were being a jerk face when you told people that I was being cold because I feel like we've had conversations about X, y, z. This is the time that I've come to visit you. They show receipts. What are your thoughts for me? What do you feel about the ladies? Are the vibes not vibing or are they not vibing because Bo's is team Dorit?
Speaker 1:They're not vibing because Bo's is team Dorit. It doesn't matter. In this situation, whoever is going to be warm and welcoming you is going to be a person who's going to be warm and welcoming you. That's it. That's true. That that's what it comes down to. If I care about you, I'm going to hear you. If I don't care about you, I'm not going to hear you. That's it.
Speaker 1:They show the flashbacks and again, you taking pictures of me may be monumental in your life, but in my life it's like oh, thanks for taking a picture. You sitting in my bedroom dropping off flowers after I have my five-bird, who may be monumental to me oh, I mean, my friend gave me flowers. Your flowers are right, that's funny, but you're here to talk about you. You did come and check on me, but you're here to talk about you and your situation and the great words of. I feel and this is a feeling Was Bose ever invited to the board of directors? No, kyle includes Sutton, erica Garcelle. Boze is never invited, so that's probably why she feels like it ain't warm. That's my perspective.
Speaker 2:So do you feel like when you meet somebody first before somebody else, you have to be team that person, or do you feel like it varies from situation to situation? Do you actually feel like Boze and Dorit are that close, or do you feel like Boze from situation to situation? Do you actually feel like Bose and Dorit are that close? Or do you feel like Bose is just trying to find a footing with this group and, because she met Dorit first, heard her whole life story, she's just blindly loyal.
Speaker 1:I don't think Bose needs to find her footing. I think Bose already is footing and I'm being honest with you because she knows people. I think what it is is that when someone welcomes you in, you're there with that person. However and again this is my opinion I do feel like there's no reason to be team one or team another. That, to me, is childish. Our friendship has nothing to do with the next person's friendship. In my opinion, our values have nothing to do with the next person you may not Like. There have been have been situations like I had to tell a friend I'm like look, you can hang out with whoever you want to hang out with. Please do not invite me anywhere. If you are inviting them, I can't do the energy. I don't tell people that often. Have I ever told you that? Have I ever told you I don't want to be around somebody?
Speaker 2:I can name one, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1:Name them. Name the initials, since you want to talk about it, because I know they ain't watching 35 minutes deep in. Say the initials.
Speaker 2:I absolutely will not. I'm not going to throw that kind of shade. I'll put it in the chat. Okay, put it in the chat.
Speaker 1:Put it in the chat.
Speaker 2:Oh, I came with receipts. That's what I thought. I didn't see nothing in the chat. What did?
Speaker 1:it say oh, the private chat One moment, that don't count, that don't count.
Speaker 2:It absolutely does count. Select the record. Show Again. This will be my comment card for this week. I gave him the proof and he didn't want to have it. He's being a total son right now. He's about to walk off on camera. He's being so ridiculous.
Speaker 1:For those listening at home. She did make me name him and you're right. I don't like to be associated around a set person. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 2:I can name one Like, not multiple. I guess everybody maybe has that one person that they just like don't want to like be around, and that's fair. That's fair Not everyone vibes with everyone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it'd be the energy. It'd be like. It'd be like I'm like we all have problems. I can tell you 25 of them, but I won't tell you anything. People are like, oh, you talk a lot. I was like, if you only knew what I don't tell you.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Just imagine what I'm not saying and just thinking in my head Ramil, do you need to scream? Do you need to scream? Do you need to scream?
Speaker 1:I literally would have been up there like no, I need to whisper. I see crazy people Because, like, like, that was like. Those are the times where I'm just like what are you doing?
Speaker 2:I just feel like that should be in like our education system, as like textbook gas lighting somebody. Like it was literally just like Dorit talking to Kyle and Kyle doesn't look like she needs to scream. Her vein is maybe moderately popping out, but it's not like full-fledged popping out and you know, do you need to scream? Do you need to scream? And she's like said it five times and I just wanted to be like what the f? Bro? Like you need to calm down, do you need to scream?
Speaker 1:I feel like it is a way to push buttons without pushing the full button, because she is literally trying to get her point across. She is One thing that I had to stop doing. Someone brought this to my attention. When I get frustrated I used to, and it's something I really try not to do is I talk to people like their kids, because in my brain it's like okay, if I've tried X and I've tried Y and I've tried Z, your butt ain't listening. Okay, Maybe if I break it down for you to where you can understand, maybe you'll get it. But Kyle, that's your friend, you can't control her. Do you need to scream? Maybe she needs to scream. And Kyle was like I don't feel like I'm screaming. And when Garcelle was like she's not screaming, I do want to give a little bit of light shade to Erica. Erica's like I'm sorry, I'm stealing your hot dog. This is pickles of relish.
Speaker 2:This is pickles of relish. I'm sitting there with her hot dog. She's like can I at least get a hot dog? Like that's all I came here for.
Speaker 1:She'll be playing.
Speaker 2:they'll be playing them hot dogs be live. Yeah, I feel for her. There's so many times I want a hot dog and don't get one. But do you think that the heat in this episode, I don't know, I'm like trying, I'm like wondering if somebody either just like pulled out, you know, the Ouija board and was like summoning a demon to come to this 4th of July party, or is it the heat that is just making these women kind of crazy, is it? They're all there with their fans and like everything. They look like everything. I can't hear you. You turn yourself on you, I still can't hear you. Dead air, dead air. Sorry guys, nope, you know we were going to trial this thing where I sing the housewives theme song and it's not really singing, it's more sounds, and ramil was all for it, but he felt like I needed to practice a little bit more absolutely not.
Speaker 1:Can you hear me now?
Speaker 2:I can.
Speaker 1:I do have to say sorry for the technical difficulties. Guys, it wasn't the heat. These witches are crazy. These holes, who's? In housewives, they're crazy.
Speaker 2:These hooves are crazy. These hooves are crazy. They're nuttier than a squirrel turd. Dear Lord, these hooves are crazy.
Speaker 1:Hooves in housewives? They're crazy. Who's in Housewives? They're crazy, it ain't the heat.
Speaker 2:So at the end of the episode, doreen and Kyle have like a moment where they're, like, you know, pretending to be friends again. I don't think that they're fully there and I don't like these fake moments because I feel like it was very fake. But, you know, kyle kind of says something that was a little bit profound to me about like her and Mo were taking six months to like separate, but in that six months she hasn't really like done anything to be more independent. And it got me wondering, like when you actually have the time available, do you use it, ramil, or do you feel like you slack more, or like you just don't you like avoid this situation because it's hard?
Speaker 1:you have to deep dive in this stuff like right now, like I said, the past couple of days have been pretty tough for me, but I'm just like, okay, I'll push through it. Like today, I wanted to curl up in a ball and cry, but I'm just like you know what, instead of doing that, let's dive deeper into it. One of the things that was profound to me, that Kyle said that hurt my heart and I'm going to say this tremendously was it's not like Dorit to not be organized. She is super organized and you can see her home is in the ring Again. This is the second floor. It's like I'm not accustomed to seeing Dory like this. Maybe there's a reason why this should be a wake-up call. When's the last time you've been to her house? When's the last time she's been to your house? When's the last time you checked in your friend's house? And again, it goes both ways. I'm not saying it's just on Kyle, that's the part that I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do think it's definitely on both of them and the reason why I said it felt fake, it just didn't feel natural. But I do like your point there. Like you know, the orchids are dead on her coffee table and Dorit is just like not presenting her normal Dorit self and I guess it maybe hits home to them a little bit that they have been really disconnected. So maybe it will be a good opportunity for them to move forward. I just hope it's not like you know faking the niceties and then you know throwing shade two seconds later. I just don't like that. You know throwing shade two seconds later. I just don't like that.
Speaker 2:So, you know, dory asks Kyle, do you think that you and Mo might get back together? You know they they've shaped the words and both of them are like well, I don't know, not right now, but I don't know. And then Bravo hits us with the one week later and, uh, mo is out with a hot blonde in greece. I think we come to find out that this was his like dancing with the stars partner. I think that they've been in a relationship for a little bit, like now. Um, but what were your thoughts on this, ramil?
Speaker 1:um, it kind of hurts my heart. It hurts my heart because you see kyle, I gotta change my TV settings because it cuts off halfway through the preview. But it hurts my heart because Kyle was like no, I didn't know, garcelle's like, did you know?
Speaker 1:No, I didn't know. And I feel like Kyle's at this part where it's like nothing surprises her or shocks her, because you can tell when love changes, you can tell when the energy changes, you can tell when a lot of stuff changes. And once it changes, you're like huh, this is odd. I'm not getting the flowers, I'm not getting the communication, I'm not getting the text, I'm not getting all this. I knew things changed when she hosted the white party last season. Emma wasn't there. I knew things changed when he was like oh, I'm taking a trip, I'll be going, and she wasn't going with him. I knew that something was up when and I know this is going to be funny, but not funny but like when he was on Netflix and he had his own TV show on Netflix. Why aren't you with Bravo with the show? I knew that, like there are tell signs when you pay attention to stuff, the writing's all in the world like they ain't happy.
Speaker 2:Sometimes you don't maybe it's not even like they're probably not happy, but they've probably grown apart. But this is like I think, like we. I said we are on season like 14 of beverly hills, right, and the couple was always like before it was um, like lvp and ken, but um, I think it's ken, I believe it's ken but um, you know, then the other couple was always like mo and kyle and I just always sort of took for granted that I thought that they were probably gonna be like a forever couple and they just weren't. And it is really heartbreaking, I feel for kyle, I really do I pray and again this is me being serious that nothing happens.
Speaker 1:But sometimes couples have to grow apart to grow back together. Mimi Leakes and Greg RIP Greg. Because he passed away of cancer, she divorced him. He wasn't acting right, so I divorced him and then I got married again and I got a bigger ring and if he don't act right again, I'm going to divorce him again. So I think what's going to happen and again they said it I didn't notice 30 years they dated and they were married for 28. That's a long time. Hell, I'll be 35 this year, you'll be 36 this year. Like that's a long time.
Speaker 2:Thank you how old I am? Dear Lord can't just drop that kind of information on our viewers.
Speaker 1:Ain't nobody watching at a 45-minute point right now? I keep telling you, I don't be watching, okay, but yeah, it kind of hurts my heart. That's what I'm trying to get to.
Speaker 2:And it makes I feel like I know we had our disagreements over, like Team Dorit, team Kyle. I know we don't like the whole teams thing but, like you know in the beginning of the season, like who were we agreeing with? But it's just sad to see. I do definitely feel like there's a difference between Dorit and PK's relationship versus Kyle and Mo. I feel like they just are going for like that straight kind of ugly, messy divorce and I don't like it and I really hope that they're considering their kids in all of this, like I really do. I feel like Dorit is not really sure about PK.
Speaker 1:It's only going to get worse. And you know, we all here for the drama, that's all.
Speaker 2:I watch these shows Well that's all I have for you, ramil. I'm trying to like see if I've got any other burning questions, but we really covered quite a lot of territory we did, we did.
Speaker 1:I'm definitely looking forward to next week's episode. Um, just just just to be nosy on the hot take of potomac, and again, this is a little dibble dabble. What do do you think so far? Who's your, who's your standout housewife?
Speaker 2:So I do like Karen the grand dame, Don't come at me with that. I just made facial expressions, you know this did bring up a good thing Somebody during this episode oh my gosh, I have to find it in my notes but they're talking about like telepathic conversations, like talking with the eyes, and I definitely feel like me and you do this like all the time. All you have to do is give me a certain look and I'm like uh.
Speaker 1:I mean, we've known each other for almost half of our lives.
Speaker 2:So like we just kind of know we speak without speaking. Yeah, it's all in here.
Speaker 2:But I you know I only watched a few episodes. I can't remember all the girls names, so I uh, karen stood out to me because I think the whole season is basically about her and her DUI Um, but she's the grand um. I've heard many people mentioned Karen Um, so I was interested to kind of see who she is. I watched the first episode and she likes to go to this pancake place for breakfast and I thought that was kind of sweet. But I don't have a lot of opinions. I don't know the ladies, like I know my Beverly Hills girlies, so I gotta keep watching.
Speaker 1:Quick rundown Ashley Giselle.
Speaker 2:I remember Ashley.
Speaker 1:Stacey. She's new. Dr Wendy Osefo. I love Dr Wendy. Shout out to Dr Wendy I love you and your husband. Y'all black asses and me they both doctors, but anyway I feel like Potomac's a little bit newer. They all have to find their footing. They all have to do this. And Giselle there's also Keanu Okay, they call her that for short.
Speaker 1:This season has been very interesting. Like if you come on this type of show, I would come single. I would not come in on a relationship, because you come here to end relationships. Karen went through a difficult time with her husband Ray. Ashley's divorce. Giselle's divorce. Monique was on the Potomac she's divorce. Katie was married she's divorce.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about Robin one day, but she like this is what I'm going to tell you. Robin was married to Juan Dixon. They got a divorce because he was a basketball player. He had some affairs. Okay, they live together, they have kids together, but they were not in a relationship. I don't think I could do that. If we are not together, I don't care if you're the father of my kids, but that's me Then they get married again and she ain't on this season because of some crazy stuff. And then there was Candace, and Candace is off because she was pregnant. So the Potomac Housewives? I'll say this In my mind it is Beverly Hills, and I'm not talking about viewing, I'm talking about the wealth, Because I've only seen Beverly Hills, Potomac, Atlanta and Dubai. Those are the ones that I watch. I'm going to say this and leave you with this. Beverly Hills doesn't have to act like they're rich because they are rich. I feel like there's a thing called stealth wealth and that's how all the women on Beverly Hills is about that stealth wealth.
Speaker 2:Except for Jennifer Tilly. She's out there with her. Beverly Hills is about that stealth wealth. Except for Jennifer Tilly, she's out there with her, like she is stealth wealth.
Speaker 1:But she who I'm going to say this again Bravo be to people snitching. That's a $10,000 hand, erica, that's a $10,000 handbag. That ain't no, that's a work of art. That's a work of art. But like I feel, like the Potomac Housewives and the Beverly Hills Housewives. They're similar but a lot different. You know like I Admire Wendy the most of the whole Franchise, because she's a realist, she's a political commentator, she was a teacher, she stepped down from doing this and she actually had a podcast, the Dr Wendy Osefo show. But enough self-promoting of Potomac, because who's the housewives? People don't know this. It encompasses all Bravo stuff.
Speaker 2:All Bravo, not just Even Summer House and Southern Charm.
Speaker 1:If we talk about Summer House, we gotta talk about Summer House, martyrs Venue. That's the one that matters.
Speaker 2:I think they both matter. I do, I do.
Speaker 1:We'll have a conversation. I'll have you watch all 16 episodes. They're 30 minutes each, maybe an hour. It'll change your life.
Speaker 2:I do have a fun fact. Do you want to hear my fun fact about a Beverly Hills housewife? Can you guess what housewife it's going to be about?
Speaker 1:Lisa Rinna.
Speaker 2:No, it's about Jennifer Tilly, and this week I learned that when she travels, like in the airport, she carries a Chucky doll with her everywhere she goes and sits it next to her and it'll like stand in line with her. So I thought that was kind of a fun fact.
Speaker 1:You know what? This is where we conclude this segment, because if I saw that, I'd be like ma'am, you gotta go, he's gotta get out of here so this was sgr aka ramil and your girl steph, and this is housewives talk to you guys soon bye. Guys, bye.