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Wheaux & Housewives - RHOBH: Caviar Catastrophe Revealed
Join us for an exclusive deep dive into the lavish world of Caviar Caspia, where opulence collides with reality TV drama! This week, tensions soar as Sutton and Dorit face off in a culinary showdown that’s as rich in flavor as it is in societal commentary. We’re not just indulging in gourmet caviar; we’re exploring the intricate dynamics of friendship and rivalry that surface when high stakes are involved.
As we unpack the explosive moments from the episode, we examine how the pressures of wealth shape personal interactions and provoke heated confrontations. With insights from Jennifer Tilly's unpredictable charm, the discussion evolves into a thought-provoking exploration of loyalty and class within the Housewives universe. Did Sutton's confrontation hit too low? And how do caviar and chaos intertwine in their intricate lives?
This episode promises not just laughter but deep reflections on the nature of human relationships influenced by societal expectations. Whether you’re a long-time fan of the Housewives or new to our conversations, there’s something for everyone. Tune in, and don’t forget to subscribe and share your thoughts with us! Your opinions are what make these discussions vibrate with life, so let’s hear your views on the decision-making that shapes their lives!
Welcome to the Housewives. It's your boy, sgr, and your girl.
Speaker 2:Steph, what's going on everyone?
Speaker 1:Hey, you know, I just got a.
Speaker 2:Not the caviar, not the caviar. We're going to get into a caviar food fight. It's going to be very expensive.
Speaker 1:Very expensive, very expensive. What is this episode called?
Speaker 2:It is called Caviar Catastrophe.
Speaker 1:It takes place in Caviar Caspian.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I actually looked up Caviar Caspia just because I I'd never heard of caviar caspia. So I think there are multiple locations now and they do like caviar caspia at the mark. But, um, it actually was a brand that, um, you know, would serve caviar and seafood and it originated in paris in 1927. So it's kind of like a like a longstanding kind of tradition for, like rich people, you know, they all wear like the robin's egg blue and it's very kind of bougie.
Speaker 1:Before we get into it. You know Bravo doing specifically for this segment of the Housewives and they don't tell you how much the caviar is the housewife. Bravo tells you 250. Now it was literally a load of potato with cat. And I found out that if you get the, this is a quotable quote and then I promise you will follow our standard procedures. The quote of quote was oh no, I like the black caviar, not like poor Reese. She probably likes the orange caviar that goes on the soup. I'm like what is going on? And that was Sutton, everyone that was Sutton. So, steph, I want to calmly ask did I ask you what the title of this episode was? I feel like I did right, you did so.
Speaker 2:It was called Caviar Catastrophe and I just want to like circle back. So the black caviar doesn't even make it like the richer, fancier caviar like that. Actually they gave another name for it but I didn't quite catch it. So you can get like the black caviar and it's still like not necessarily the good stuff. So Miss Jennifer Tilly comes in, it's like, as long as it's the most expensive caviar on the menu, I'm assuming it's going to be good. So I do have a little bit of tea. Want me to spill some tea?
Speaker 1:Sure spill some tea.
Speaker 2:So this week in all of my Housewives feeds, basically everyone was saying that the cast isn't happy with Jennifer Tilly and they want her off the show. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1:My thoughts are she makes the show and I hate to say it. It's funny because I learned. Thank you, jennifer Tilly, for telling us that she is half American and half Chinese. I was like it was always like it was always like it was there, but it wasn't there.
Speaker 1:But I don't know. I think she's great. I think she's great. I think she's great TV. I think she's funny. I think she says stuff that you know they're not wanting to say. And she's not a one-person train, she's not on the Sutton train, she's not on the Bose train, she's not on the Reed train.
Speaker 2:She's like well, you know food's here, so here, so then we eat food. No, I was kind of wondering if part of this is because of her relationship with sutton. Sutton did kind of bring her into the friend group and it seems like they both have like the higher end tastes, tastes like that's probably what they connect with on a lot like you know, they just they both are sort of into that and I'm wondering if this is backlash for being friends with sut son I think I'm gonna let you guide the conversation, because if I don't I'm gonna be all over the place, because there's so many things I want to talk about today.
Speaker 1:So please go ahead, you know, give us a little episode recap and then with some of the questions, because I'm ready okay.
Speaker 2:So first we see dory and jagger playing some basketball just like a PSA. Guys, don't play basketball with your long nails, you're going to ruin your nails. We can't have gross nails out there. We just can't not. If we're Dorit, ursel has a meeting about her film, so they're just doing some discussion. Erica calls her mom to show her her new place and it seems like mom is going to be coming to visit, so we have that to look forward to.
Speaker 2:And then we meet Miss Jennifer Tilly at Caviar Cafia. She's basically booking out the restaurant to throw a party for the ladies of Beverly Hills and some surprising guests, who we'll get into in a little bit. So have you ever had caviar, ramil?
Speaker 1:Not going to Not doing it. Honestly, I probably have. I probably have the poor reed version Again. Shout out to poor reed because I've had sushi before. I just I don't. Sometimes I think that certain people like certain things. Like the first time I had oysters was at your birthday party last year and it wasn't bad. Then I had oysters again for my mother's birthday, again it wasn't bad. But from my opinion it's like I think that's where I want to stop with the like the seafood extraordinaire, because I feel like it's just oh, you eat it because you have it.
Speaker 2:Or you eat it because it's expensive or like kind of like I don't know, it makes you seem cool. I don't know. I've had the poor people caviar too, and uh, I wasn't impressed, so I don't think I'll be moving forward there you go.
Speaker 2:So son comes to visit jennifer tilly at uh caviar caspia. Jennifer tilly always so sweet. She gives sutton a cute little. It looks like I don't, I don't even know some sort of dish. She was at um dolce and gabbana's fashion show which we found out, and they talk about the dory issue from the previous week for those of you who maybe missed it. Dory basically calls button, insinuates Sutton has a drinking problem and Sutton calls Dory the B word and all heck ensues and it kind of ends by Sutton leaving the party. So that definitely gets explored further in the episode. Did you ever have a playhouse, ramil? Like a play place.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. I wanted it so badly, I wanted a treehouse so badly. But no, never Did you.
Speaker 2:So I had like more of like. It wasn't like what I would call like a house, it was like sort of like a jungle gym type thing, but it was definitely so. They show porsche's old like playhouse in the backyard of kyle's house and it is, it's like nicer than our my house. It really is so nice. It was funny who did this I don't.
Speaker 1:It's from my perspective. Before we get into like the meat and potatoes of this episode, it is so interesting sometimes for different housewives to just be there and just to be like blissfully unaware, like I'm not saying, that they all weren't at the table they all weren't having conversations, but it was just like. I have so much to say. Please get into your questions.
Speaker 2:I'm going to continue on or else we're going to be off. You're going to get derailed by Ramil.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Kyle's therapist and life coach comes to visit and they have a long talk about Mo. Basically, the crux of this is Kyle feels like Mo was scared to sort of be alone and not be without Kyle. And you know, I think that she is getting to a point in her life where she's wanting to take like a relationship risk, but then she's fearful and she says this that as soon as she does, she's scared that Mo's going to come back and be like you know, I want you back. What do you? What are your thoughts on that, ramil?
Speaker 1:That's what always happens If, if you are available, no one wants you. The moment you get into a relationship, that is when, oh, I've always had these feelings for you, I've always wanted to talk to you, I've always wanted to be around you. So, like I I think it's the duality, Like it's like damn, I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't. I want to be with Kyle, I want to be with Maurizio, I want to be what we used to be. One of the things that she said was like I never had a role model, and she kind of broke down and confessional about this, and so I kind of wanted my relationship to last because I wanted it to be monumental and what have you. So I truly do feel like it's kind of one of those damn if you do, damn if you don't I think it is definitely kind of like that situation.
Speaker 2:I would probably call it like people want what they can't have, and as soon as you become in some sort of relationship, people assume that they can't have you. So as soon as you become in some sort of relationship, people assume that they can't have you. So it's like when they all come out of the woodwork. So I don't know, we'll see how this works out, but I do feel bad for Kyle. It seems like, from what we're seeing, she's struggling, probably a little bit more than Mo is. Mo seems to have moved on, he's got his own place and we'll revisit that a little bit more than mo is. Mo seems to have moved on, he's got his own place and, uh, we'll revisit that a little bit towards the end of our podcast.
Speaker 2:Uh, so what services do you have that come to your like house or your place of living, that make your life easier, ramil?
Speaker 1:the only one that that I could think of would be my massage therapist. That is the only one. He's amazing. Aside from that, I go places. I don't trust a lot of people in my space because of energy and so on and so forth, but shout out to Bose, because Bose is like oh no, I'm not going anywhere, I want it to come to me and I was like I know that's an expensive house call and she's just looking through the house like oh, this is nice. This is nice, I'm like.
Speaker 2:I bet you it is. You're probably charging $1,000 an hour.
Speaker 2:She's probably charging more than that, like probably like a fee just for traveling. But Boze basically says she has everybody come to her house, like her manicurist, her waxer. It must be nice. The only people that we have come to our house is once a month. We have some people come in and do like a deep clean just on everything, but they're actually coming to service the house. So they have to like be here. But I don't have any like crimpy little service. I go out, I trek through the snow.
Speaker 1:Listen, if you get the Bose treatment, you get you, you. That's all I'm going to say. You get to be Bose.
Speaker 2:I mean it must be good to be Bose. So Dr Cindy, who's a fertility expert, comes to visit Ms Bose and you know she she does note that after 45, there's a 2% chance of spontaneous conception and that has to do with, like, your egg reserves being limited. So basically they do a scan of Ms Bowes to see if she has any eggs that are even available, and she does. But it does seem like they are going to be gearing up to do some sort of either try to get pregnant spontaneously or do IVF of some sort so that Bowes can carry, and it seems like the good doctor is making house calls so that Bose can carry, and it seems like the good doctor is making house calls.
Speaker 1:So it made me happy to have this conversation and I was happy that Keely wasn't one of the type of guys who was like okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, like he was really into it so you can tell that it's going to go somewhere. That's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 2:So we see Dorit and Bose on their way to Cav Caviar Caspia every time you say Dorit, I think about poor Reed every time. Miss Corey or Reed is really fixated on the money aspect. It's like all the quotes that I have written down it was Dorit would get the cheapest one. Okay, I'm going to stop Go ahead.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you know I guess my question to you is after having like a week's perspective watching this week's episode, do you feel like, from the second that Sutton arrived at Dorit's house last week, was she looking for an excuse to leave, or do you feel like she just?
Speaker 1:But this is the thing I I feel immediately she was. She was looking for any issue to tear apart, something you know, and instead of her just leaving she didn't. I'm shocked because, like even even the event then did sudden get there first. Who got there first?
Speaker 2:it was fun exactly.
Speaker 1:She's turning over a new leaf. She's trying to change stuff. Sutton ain't always early. Sutton ain't always early. No, I'm talking about a caviar Caspian, was Sutton there first?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Exactly. She's trying to turn over a new leaf, and then turning over the new leaf is the drama. I got respect for it, but this episode made me. I was just like what is this taste, Is this is this, is this slutty Slutty.
Speaker 2:Is this a pori? Is this a pori? But?
Speaker 1:like what's going on, like I don't think this tastes my mom. I was sitting here like this popcorn is sour, my mom.
Speaker 2:So, um, we get a brief look into some of denifer tilly's other friends, because they pan back to caviar caspia and she's talking about her friend diana, and the way she introduces diana to like the other ladies is she used to take her shirt off and jump into the pool. Do you have like a friend? That's crazy, that does some crazy crap like that.
Speaker 1:Do you have a friend? That's crazy, that does some crazy crap like that.
Speaker 2:Yes and no, but I feel like I low-key am, but I'm not.
Speaker 1:I feel like we were when we were younger we would try things, but now I'm like how about I wake up with a bad heart tomorrow and be upset and frustrated? So that's number one. But number two Diana was a housewife from a different season and Anne-Marie was a housewife from a different season and Anne-Marie was a housewife from a different season.
Speaker 2:Was that from the Hills?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I don't remember them. On.
Speaker 1:Diane, we're on season 14, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what season was Diana?
Speaker 1:Diana Diana was season. It was Diana Diana. It was season 12. Because she had a whole situation, I promise you, she had a whole situation with Bose. I mean Bose, lord Garcelle, and I was Garcelle, garcelle, Garcelle, and she also had an issue. Anne-marie had an issue with Sutton.
Speaker 2:I didn't catch that. I guess I'll have to go back and look. I watched all the seasons, but they must have not made an impression on me.
Speaker 1:You're a sophist. I'm a nurse, anesthetist. You're a sophist. You don't remember a sophist, kate?
Speaker 2:No, I do, but Jennifer says that that's my friend. It's not Anne-Marie that you're thinking of. So I didn't think that any of them had any ties to, except for one, the housewives, and that was Faye Resnick. She wasn't a housewife, but she was on like almost every season of Housewives.
Speaker 1:My point and I apologize Garcelle had mentioned goes Anne-Marie what Anne-Marie is this? And then they flash back to the whole situation. That's all. I thought it was funny that Anne-Marie and Diana were you know names and they were housewives before that aren't on the show anymore, and maybe they're causing PTSD.
Speaker 2:I don't know. We'll have to look into it. Um, so Sutton is on the way to the restaurant. You know she's arriving late with Kyle and Kyle has her assistant I think her name's Jennifer with her, not sure. I think it was Jennifer, though. But you know Sutton makes note she's not not going to be nice today, so she's she's warning us that it ain't going to be pretty, and it definitely wasn't. So full pause. Have you ever shown up somewhere and you, like, missed the memo on the attire? And what was the situation?
Speaker 1:This is like a so horrible show. I hope this does not make the edit so. For my grandfather's funeral, they were asking for pictures and I didn't have a professional picture at the time, so I like used the picture like a selfie type picture and it was not good. Um, I know that's not showing up somewhere, but it was played in the grandchildren's slideshow and it was just not going over. Well, you know, hindsight, 2020, 12 years from now, of 13 shoot what? Almost 14 years since his passing. I can laugh at it now, but I'm assuming you're talking about how everyone was wearing caftans and Dorit was wearing Chanel.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't a caftan. I must have missed that on the caftan.
Speaker 1:That goes. So what? Chanel doesn't make a caftan, or was that Garcelle'slle says?
Speaker 2:no, garcelle said that and satin is just like what are you stupid? But she doesn't say it to dory, she says it like in the confessional. It was still funny, but like I feel like a couple weeks ago I made like a faux pop. I went to a restaurant that I hadn't been to in a while and when I went the last time we went on kind of like off hours At an off time and I didn't get a vibe, but it was super fancy. I thought that you could kind of dress At whatever level you were sort of feeling that day. Well, I went out on a Saturday night, back to that restaurant and boy was I underdressed. I was so embarrassed. They sat me in the back.
Speaker 1:Like um, they sat me in the back, like the kids area, I'm pretty sure, because they're just like who's this chick, steph? What are you doing here? You cannot sit with the regular people.
Speaker 2:Sit with the boys and what was like interesting is we ended up ordering the most expensive meal on the menu. So I think the the afterwards, like the management, like the managers of the restaurant, came out and like cut our food for us because we ordered, like these tomahawk steaks. But it was pretty embarrassing. Initially, I think that they thought that we were going to be getting burgers and fries. I don't know, not that there's anything wrong with burgers and fries, but we were there to eat steaks.
Speaker 2:Um, so the girls are all sitting in a circle and things aren't kicking off yet and all she has to do is ask a question Are you drinking water? And boy does Sutton like. Or Dorit says that to Sutton and boy does Sutton like what is that okay for me to drink water? So that kind of like kicks off the whole party on like a negative note, because instead of just like ignoring it, like you would hope maybe could happen, it's getting brought up like right from the get go. So they, they go to the table and they're sitting like sort of by each other across from each other, and obviously that's planned by Bravo. You know like it had to be from each other.
Speaker 2:And obviously that's planned by Bravo, you know like it had to be, but anyways, you know, pick on somebody else whose wallet fits. So Sutton is talking to Dorit and it's like I just want to confront this situation. You tried to steal my purse, you're rude about like putting me in the lobby at your house last week and then you insinuated that I'm alcoholic, and her response to like basically dory, in this whole thing is pick on someone else whose wallet fits. What, what, what do you feel about that ramil? Like what? What does that even mean?
Speaker 1:severely, severely disrespectful. That's a slap on multiple like on multiple fronts. Partially one sudden you're rich, but you're rich because you get 325 000 excuse me, 325 000 dollars per month from your ex-husband via alimony.
Speaker 1:Like, don't get me wrong, I think, slutton, I gotta stop saying that I think sutton you put poor reed in my mind, but it's like, so now I'm saying everything but your name. So thank you. But the sudden's clothing brand probably does very well, but you didn't get your wealth without being attached to the man you were attached to and granted you were married for many moon and many years. But it's like the closet really came out and it hurt my heart because I'm just like that's the one thing that y'all never do on this show is talk about money in this way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, y'all talk about oh, that's a great work. That is a work of art.
Speaker 2:Or it's like you know they show off their Birkins, but they're not like overly. They cost this much, except for that one girl in one of the earlier seasons who's like? I spent $25,000 on these sunglasses, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's not them, that's not their claim to frame. And it does happen on a lot of other Bravo shows where it's like well, I make money. The Bravo housewives of this franchise specifically. Beverly Hills. The money speaks for itself. Is the money speaks for itself? You're having caviar with your friend $250 to $1,000 per potato.
Speaker 2:That's something that stuck out to me so like the reason why I don't think Dorit can clap back is because I feel like Dorit potentially might have to go through what Erica went through and downsize which I mean. I don't feel like Erica's home is probably a million dollars, Not even trying to be funny.
Speaker 1:She lives in freaking Beverly Hills. It's expensive. It's expensive to live where they live in the homes and so on, and so forth.
Speaker 2:And I don't know. It kind of hurt my heart a little bit. I was shocked that she went that low.
Speaker 1:To be honest with you, I was hurt that Sutton said that. Like how do you feel?
Speaker 2:do you think I'm like overreacting, or you think that she was reaching, or you tell me I just feel like there could have been a different like if you were like insult or a different way to like throw a jab at Dorit without bringing money into it. I do feel like it was a bad case of the money giving somebody an inflated sense of self or personality, and I don't feel like Sutton is always like this, but it was just ugly. It wasn't a good look. I don't think that she's going to gain any fans over it.
Speaker 1:I think she might have fans, and that's my opinion, but who knows?
Speaker 2:I don't know, it was just ugly, ugly, ugly and then she kind of doubled down on it, like she kept kind of saying it, which made it even worse.
Speaker 1:Um, where, in my opinion, to the time that erica it's not the exact same, but when erica was trying to defend herself like I'm fighting for my life, I'm worried about myself, and everyone's like, well, you shouldn't be it's like, no, I'm worried about me and it's like I don't think that Sutton is right in this instance. Maybe there's something that's so deep so you were called an alcoholic. If you're not an alcoholic, you so deep, so you were called an alcoholic. If you're not an alcoholic, you're not worried about it, and we've had this conversation multiple times. But, like for me, if you're not interested in getting men, then you're not going to have a problem with getting men. All the people in the world was like I don't like this, I don't like that, or secretly gay, or secretly down low. For me, it's odd that you have an issue with something that doesn't. To me, it was just a low blow, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It was a low blow, it was an ugly blow. I feel like there could have been other things. She could have made fun of her outfit. She could have made fun of how ridiculous she was not wearing her taffy, taffy can or whatever the heck. So you?
Speaker 1:can't read, so I I'm gonna read you. Like I would have said something like that, like yeah, obviously you read caviar and showed up for a free meal. Where's your caftan? Like I probably would have said something like that, or you know, I don't know, but you're just like. My pockets are bigger than yours, it was and it just who cares?
Speaker 2:I mean, I and you know what I guess like the. The weird part about this is, like you said, erica, when she lost everything, was probably still living in a more expensive home than a lot of people that we know like they're Beverly Hills like or I guess like that's like what that's insinuating. And Beverly Hills poor is still like a lot of people's like high end wealth. So I just I don't know I was feeling for you after like that whole trip to Augusta and I got like an insight into your life and then this just kind of put a damper on my feelings for you.
Speaker 1:So jumping, and I know I'm jumping, but for me it gives. Unless it is you, it does not impact you. You wanted everyone to have sympathy about the whole Reba thing. You wanted everyone to love you and talk about this and so on and so forth. But now that you're on a different playing field and so on and so forth, I would never come to your house and I mean I've jokingly called you B word before, but I've never come to your house and been like you're a bitch.
Speaker 2:You're a bitch, like it's just not something I'm going to do at anybody else's house.
Speaker 1:If I'm not comfortable. I'm like, okay, look, I'm just about to go, you know we talked about that showing up to somebody's party and they weren't on time. I'm like, okay, deuces, I got to go. That's the type of way that I'm interesting how Kyle was brought up and then he was like, okay, let me go get Kyle, let me do this, and then Sutton was brought up and was like well, I didn't just storm out, I tried to stay. No, Sutton, I feel like you were looking for something.
Speaker 2:And you found it. You were looking for an exit.
Speaker 1:But when you found it, now you're getting defensive because you've been back into a corner, so that's it.
Speaker 2:So, so that's it. So should you call people Missy. Let me tell you something, Missy.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's a specific and again, this is my opinion, that's a specific, backhanded, like, it's no different. When I was, like at a job, I'm like OK, sweetie, like sweetie. Like I feel like it's a different word for the B word or a different word for the C word, like, or a different word for the C word. Like you are trying to push somebody's buttons so that they react, and when they react it's like oh, oh, calm down, sweetie, calm down. Like you're trying to get a reaction. Calm down, missy.
Speaker 1:Missy like you don't call no grown woman Missy. Missy is something that you call a kid. So yeah, I don't like it. I didn't like it. What? What say you?
Speaker 2:I mean it was definitely like a slap down, like I mean you don't call a grown person like missy, maybe in a joking way, like little miss, like you know, let me tell you little miss like, if you're kind of kidding around, but she goes on to like elaborate because like Dorit was like you came in and called me a bee in my own house and Dorit was, or Sutton was like I should have called you an effing bee and I was just like god darn.
Speaker 2:I mean like, and I guess my question like thinking about this whole thing when people low blow you, should you low blow back? What is the response? Did Dorit handle this okay?
Speaker 1:I got to interject. Dorit did an excellent job because she tried to. This is the thing Hurt people, don't hurt people. It didn't matter what she said. In that moment, she's like okay, I genuinely Did you apologize, did you? Okay? The words I apologize Hurt people. Don't hurt people, it didn't matter what she said. In that moment, she's like okay, I genuinely Did you apologize, did you? Okay, the words I apologize may not have come out. I was dating a guy and I'm like I'm sorry. He's like if you were sorry, it wouldn't happen. I'm up for. Like. That took me back to like not wanting to tell you I'm sorry, I apologize anymore. Like that made me not want to have conversations with you. That made me remember like okay, we're still doing this thing where we're trying to please somebody else versus making sure we're good. So, like when Dorita attempted to apologize and it wasn't enough, it was to me. It was like really Really.
Speaker 2:So I do have to say something on that whole thing. I just don't think that they should have dealt with it Like. I think they should have just like they should have just ate and like left and been done with it, because Sutton was so pissed off that, no matter what Dorit would have said, even if it was very sincere, she would have taken it as like a joke or like she was just being condescending. So I do think you're right, dorita handled it well. I just don't feel like kyle should have been like well, what can we do now to like resolve the situation? Girl, I was about ready to tell I was like kyle you can shut up.
Speaker 1:I love you, kyle riches, but you can shut up, because one thing you're going to do is open up a can of worms. And then did I forget who it said it was like oh, so now?
Speaker 2:you want to jump in and say something. Where was Kyle at?
Speaker 1:earlier. I'm like, oh my God, Nothing. They could have been handing out pizza parties. Shout out to Erica Jane, because she was minding her business, drinking her stuff, eating her caviar same thing God sent. Now my favorite was Bo's, when she goes. So who are you going to show up with today? She's like I only got one person in my body.
Speaker 2:She's like how many people do you have in your body right now? And Bo's just like what, what?
Speaker 1:There's only one person in here. How many is in there? Bo's did confirm that she's not leaving the show.
Speaker 2:You jerk, it was about her getting I was going to give you a righteous recall, but now I'm not going to give you anything.
Speaker 1:Too bad. I called it back. Righteous recall.
Speaker 2:You didn't. You didn't. She's quitting dairy. We still don't know if she's quitting the show.
Speaker 1:She didn't quit the show, I don't know she's good TV TV Bows, bows, train, train, bows, train bows.
Speaker 2:I was going to give him a righteous recall, but he is just getting way too ahead of himself.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, today I just I've had a very, not so great week so I had to call out what I could call out and righteous recall.
Speaker 2:I wasn't even thinking about that, dear Lord. Okay, so do you do you feel like you have a split personality sometimes, like, do you feel like you have a split personality? Sometimes there's the nice you, and then there's Stephanie, and then there's Bethany. One's a, b.
Speaker 1:Then there's Messany, there's definitely SGR and Rabeel, even though I'm very much still the same person. For me, I always tell people it's a three-strike rule. After three strikes, that's when I'm just like, okay, I'm done.
Speaker 1:And people are like, no, you flopped the hand. I'm like, oh, I can tell you the three places that we went wrong and I'm cool about you. So no, I don't feel like I have a split personality. I feel like everything that happens in my world comes with right reason, like please, stephanie, tell me where you're coming from. People are like, oh, you got an attitude. No, I'm very much coming direct, I'm very much coming honestly. I just I don't have it. I don't have it.
Speaker 2:So that's my opinion, so I do have to make note. My dog's going to probably pop on screen here because he's freaking out Because Gene, even though he didn't interrupt the episode, he just set off our smoke alarm, so it's going out and kc's freaking out next to me here. I can show him.
Speaker 1:He's a little boogie for those that are that are on the podcast. Kc is a. What is he?
Speaker 2:uh, he's a cocoranian, cocoranian, that's a.
Speaker 1:It's a spaniel and a cockerchranian. That's a Spaniel and a Cocker.
Speaker 2:A Cocker Spaniel and a Pomeranian.
Speaker 1:Pomeranian. He's the cutest dog in the world. Check the website I mean, check YouTube, that's what I'm trying to say or the website YouTubecom, either one.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So Faye Bresnik, who I low-key kind of love because she just will stir the pot and she knows it. You know she makes note, like once they separate Sutton and Dory. You know you shouldn't put labels on people and she might have not said it the right way, but I do kind of agree with her. I feel like when you put a label on somebody, the label tends to stick, even if you haven't even formed your opinion about that person. If somebody like labels them, that could be how you always perceive them to stick, even if you haven't even formed your opinion about that person. If somebody like labels them, that could be how you always perceive them.
Speaker 2:And I think that people do this a lot with like substance abuse use, um, like mental health diagnoses. I think that sometimes you're really quick to like label people. What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1:I feel like it's true. Um, I feel like people when they see something wrong. They feel like they know, especially if they're like granted you don't. I don't want to like misquote this, but like. The field that you work in isn't necessarily like mental health, but you deal with people that have you know diagnoses and what have you?
Speaker 2:We deal with a lot of comorbidities, so a lot of times there's like a physical problem and then some sort of like cognitive deterioration, but then there's like an underlying or like kind of a mental health issue that becomes more prevalent because of the cognitive decline.
Speaker 1:And I will say that after dealing with so many patients or you know members or whatever you want to say you get comfortable enough with saying like, okay, well, this is what I deem this person is, and it may not necessarily be that I do feel like we as Americans kind of throw around different titles quickly, so I, I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it.
Speaker 2:I don't like it either. I feel like it's a really just like lazy way to try to understand people Like I get like it's like traditionally like labels were helped to kind of like put people into categories, and I know that sounds bad, but it was helped. It was meant to be like to promote understanding, but now it's just like you throw a label on everything and you don't really understand anything. You throw a label on everything and you don't really understand anything.
Speaker 2:So it's very dangerous. You don't love it and I think. I think Faye Resnick was right, but that's neither here nor there. So should Sutton open up about her father? So it was kind of noted in this episode that potentially the reason why Sutton is having such a strong reaction to this not only because she doesn't feel like she has an alcohol problem or whatever is because her dad actually passed away because of, like you know, um abusing, I guess, like psych medications and abusing alcohol, and that could be why it's kind of so triggering for her. Like, do you feel like if Sutton opened up to the girls about this that aren't Garcelle and Kyle, that they would be supportive more?
Speaker 1:they would be supportive. But it's the same thing. It's what Sutton wants to share. If she wanted to share, she would have shared it before now. I feel like she has shared that. You know her father has taken her life on the show before and you know he had to lie to himself, but I don't. She has shared that. You know her father has taken her life on the show before and you know he had to lie to himself, but I don't think she shared why.
Speaker 1:We kind of had this discussion. Her dog will holler. Bo said that. You know she hollered. No, she hollered, but from my perspective I don't think he in this moment would have mattered. I do think that if we had a chill-out period and a cool-down period and then we further check it, yes, but one thing from the mid-season review a couple episodes ago that we saw this ain't going to be it. Sutton Claps back on Kyle. Sutton Claps back on Erica. I don't think this is going to end it. I think this is just her first victim and it's going to transpire to other people. That's my opinion. I saw the previews and I stand by it.
Speaker 2:It's going to be a trial of victims.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is, because I feel like there's no reason for Sutton to react the way that she's reacting and going so hard. I'm watching another, the Potomac, and it's interesting, as we do the reunions and we're watching them. It's just like, oh yeah, this is wild. That made no dang sense, honey. That's it. I can't wait for you to watch Atlanta. I'm telling you, you don't have to know anything, I'll catch you up on all of it. I'll let you ask the questions. But I'm telling you I'm like, oh, that's because it is, let you ask the questions. But I'm telling you, I'm like, oh, that's because it is, you're going to be up there like whoa.
Speaker 2:I just want to make sure I understand enough of the lore to appreciate what's going on, because that's when I feel like I do my best work.
Speaker 1:I will say this they ripped and replaced the old cast. They only brought back two or three housewives from the past, so everyone else is brand new. People were friends of the show before They've came back. They've kicked off other people. It's they, yeah.
Speaker 2:Did you ever watch New York?
Speaker 1:No, I've never watched Roni before.
Speaker 2:So, apparently, like this past season, they replaced, like all of the cast with, like a younger cast. And it has been bombing, basically. So I heard today that Lindsay from Summer House, who's the girl is interesting. She keeps things interesting. She had this relationship with Carl on Summer House. You probably see a lot of drama about them too. She's going to be joining Real Housewives of New York, so I feel like it might be stepping up its game. I might tune in, you never know.
Speaker 1:I'll step up your adipi in front of it.
Speaker 2:So the cat is out of the bag about Mo. That's what the end of the episode is about. Essentially, the paparazzi goes to the airport in Greece and, I don't know, takes photos of Mo and this girl I think it's dancing with the star's partner but the sign basically says that she's been to that airport. Jennifer Aniston was there. She was there. Nobody took pictures or wasn't paparazzi. So she kind of feels that she thinks that Mo might have planted the paparazzi there to kind of get back at Kyle for having all these paparazzi moments with Morgan Wade. What say you?
Speaker 1:Yes, because ain't nobody that you can tip a paparazzi off about anything and the paparazzi. I'm your biggest fan. Go ahead, ahead, lady Gaga, and they pop up and they will take pictures. If Paris Hilton says she's going to be somewhere and she's going to be here at this time, and she strolls on by, ain't nothing in this world planned without it being planned, and that's all I'm going to say. Ain't nothing, a mystery like the paparazzi?
Speaker 2:isn't just like standing out at the airport waiting for famous people to drop in?
Speaker 1:It's planned, ain't nothing not planned is what I meant to say.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's more just to like get the story out there on Mo's?
Speaker 1:part, or do you think?
Speaker 2:he's like hurt by the whole Morgan Wade thing.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he's hurt by the whole Morgan way thing, cause if he was hurt by the whole Morgan way thing, I don't think that he would be talking to Kyle. I think he's trying to give Kyle a taste of the medicine, and one thing that I know about Kyle is she can dish it, but she cannot take it. Like I love that woman but she cannot take it. Like she expects people to be sympathetic, loving, caring, all of that stuff, but when it comes to Kyle, kyle can't take it, honey, she can't.
Speaker 2:She can't, and I think we're going to see a little bit more about this as the season kind of progresses, but that's all I really have for you today, ramil. Did I miss anything? Is there anything that I jumped over?
Speaker 1:There was something that you missed. Can we talk about the righteous recall please?
Speaker 2:No, you didn't get a righteous recall, because I have to call the righteous recall and you called it on yourself. I feel like it doesn't count. That will be on my comment card for this episode. The CEO of sgr is just like calling his own crap. He won't even let his guests call this stuff. And I was gonna, I was gonna hook you up, bro.
Speaker 1:You don't trust me, you're not, you're not a guest, your co-host, guess?
Speaker 2:is whatever, and the resident stephanie. And the resident stephanie, you've been here for more than three episodes, have I? How many episodes have?
Speaker 1:I done. I don't know. This is literally your second.
Speaker 2:I've never done hoops and housewives with anyone else, except for you I think I would be sad if you did it with somebody else I don't know well if you don't watch atlanta.
Speaker 1:Listen, if you don't watch Atlanta, I'm going to have to. Who's going to ask me these questions? You told me to watch.
Speaker 2:Potomac. You're very confusing. There's only so many hours in the day and then, guys, just so you know, he has me watching another show that isn't even related to Housewives. So it's like I'm doing homework for this man and none of it is good enough that's going to be on either Hold On Hulu or Hold Up Hulu.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you I ain't figured out the segment name, but Tell Me Lies is some spicy drama. It's essentially like cruel intentions, but worse. I don't care what anyone says.
Speaker 2:You ain't seen nothing yet, stephanie, because you'll let me know I'm really done episode seven or eight of the first season. Yeah, I've been doing the homework.
Speaker 1:Wait until you finish it and get to season two. Honey Oof, I'm just telling you You're going to be over there like I hate, steven. I can't stand Lucy, evan, why Bree, bree? It's just literally a whole bunch of people at university, university, talking like I'm from London.
Speaker 2:University.
Speaker 1:University and college that are just essentially, you know, doing adult things and having a happy adult fun time, and they shouldn't be. That's all I'll say. I'll leave it at that, but this is SGR and your girl, and we will see you again soon. Bye y'all.