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Career Centric: Salary vs Hourly in the Modern Workplace
The salary versus hourly compensation debate touches nearly every working professional's life, often in ways we don't fully understand until we're deep in the trenches of our careers. This raw, honest conversation explores how payment structures fundamentally shape our ability to create boundaries between work and personal life.
Our hosts share personal experiences from both sides of the divide, revealing the hidden trade-offs that come with each. While salary positions offer the flexibility to handle life's unexpected moments—doctor's appointments, school pickups, or midday errands—they often come with the unspoken expectation of 24/7 availability. As one host puts it, "I feel like I'm always on y'all's time and I feel like I should be able to bill y'all if I had to stay up till 6, 7 checking something."
The discussion takes a particularly poignant turn when examining what inevitably gets sacrificed when career takes priority. Drawing on Shonda Rhimes' wisdom, the hosts acknowledge the uncomfortable truth that excelling in one area often means dropping the ball in another—missed basketball games, championship matches, and family dinners become collateral damage of professional success.
Perhaps most revealing is the conversation about leadership's role in establishing healthy boundaries. The hosts contrast progressive management styles that encourage true disconnection during time off with the "work, work, work" mentality that pervades many organizations. This generational divide highlights how workplace culture, more than formal policies, determines whether employees can achieve meaningful balance.
Whether you're weighing a job offer, considering a transition between payment structures, or simply trying to establish better boundaries, this episode provides valuable perspective on navigating the complex interplay between compensation and quality of life. How do you protect your personal time in a world that increasingly demands constant connectivity?
Hey everybody, welcome to Career Centric. I'm Mani and this is.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm not sure if he was pointing to me or not, but this is Lamar Hello.
Speaker 3:Yes, and I am SGR, and this is Drinking Reviews and this is Career Centric. I thought I'd do something different to confuse people at home. Was that funny? Yeah, you know, maybe.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, you know maybe. Yes, the hands is inverted, so when she went up, I don't know if it was me or you, so it's all good.
Speaker 1:So last time when I went like this, I remember like you're not pointing at the person you wanted to, so I did the opposite hand.
Speaker 3:It is the opposite, but you know, I just I wanted to be obstinate so that you guys you know I just I wanted to be obstinate so that you guys you know when I do the little thing. But you're right, I don't explain this. I can't be mad or upset, but we're here to talk about careers again. Follow-up topic, episode three, even though you guys were episode two. Just to recap for the folks we were talking about, you know, hybrid versus like remote work versus in person. So this kind of trickles hides the conversation. Today we're talking about work-life balance. Ooh, look look at the mask and the dreaded hourly positions versus the salary positions and I know we've all been there versus the salary positions, and I know we've all been there. So let's go around the table and let's just first say like, do we have salary jobs currently or hourly jobs? So I'm salaried right now, Lamar.
Speaker 2:I'm salaried as well.
Speaker 3:And then Mani, salaried. Okay, so do you feel that being a salaried employee like gives you better work-life balance, or do you feel like it gives you no work-life balance? We'll go Mani then Lamar, and I guess I'll come back to me.
Speaker 1:I will say that I would prefer to be hourly. Would prefer to be hourly. I feel like salary y'all are getting way too much of my time because I don't ever feel like I ever clock out. I feel like I'm always on y'all's time and I feel like I should be able to bill y'all if I had to stay up till 6, 7 checking something else. But because I'm salary, y'all get free work from me and I don't like that okay with my heart.
Speaker 2:You know I feel how money feels. It's like the wealth, but it's a double-edged sword. You know I'm saying so like um, I do 100% agree that. You know salary has its perks. You definitely get some. You definitely get some free time from me because you know I've had to do some saturday mornings I'm driving up and down my driveway testing messages like so, like why am I doing this on a saturday morning? Like I'm late for my barbershop appointment, why are we doing this? Um, sometimes I would like to do an eight and skate.
Speaker 2:So obviously, if you guys aren't familiar with that term, you know that's what we back in the day would say for hourly people. Like I do my eight hours, I leave and that's that's what it is. So that is nice to to do an aid and escape, but there is the benefits of salary. So I'm right in the middle. I think that if I was at a certain place in my life and I was able to be like a contractor and I can, you know this is my hourly rate I was able to be like a contractor and I can, you know this is my hourly rate.
Speaker 2:Hey, if you want me to get on at midnight. I can but just know my rate is about to double, or time and a half. That would be really nice because I know a lot of people that have been afforded that opportunity. So I'm in the middle to say all of that. I'm just saying I'm in the middle. There are days I would like to do it and skate, but there are some benefits to salary. There are days I would like to do an eight and skate, but there are some benefits to salary.
Speaker 3:I have to agree to disagree with both of you guys. And it's funny because, like, I remember being salaried in this role versus what it was like in a previous role, and the previous role was there were no off days because there was something. And I mean, my previous role was a retail store manager and I promise you, I got kind of toxic, which was like if you answer my phone calls, I answer yours, when I had employees, but I never called you. So if you're off I'm not calling you, but if I'm calling you it's because you know it's some real stuff. But I swear like it didn't matter. Like I get a call on my off day, the alarm would go off.
Speaker 3:My favorite and this is petty and this is back at a company that doesn't exist anymore, but I'll never forget I got called, I was the last man on the total poll, again, hourly, not salary, but you're a key holder. The power has gone off. We lost connection. We need someone to go there to do what. Well, we lost connection, sir, the power is out Like if I go there.
Speaker 3:what am I going to do? Well, you got to make sure that no one like clipped it. I said no, no, no, we had a storm here. The power is out. Like, what do you want me to do? And again, I was hourly, then I was not salary. So I'm like you want me to drive there to see if it's okay. I'm not the police, send the police. What are we doing here? I kind of like do you feel like and this kind of follows me how does it? How does being paid hourly affect your work-life balance versus being paid salary? Like how do you feel if you were to punch a eight like you said eight and skate lamar if you were to, or you money, I'll let you guys go back around and do that like, how do you feel like that would change your life? Like if you actually could get overtime, if you could quantify and qualify and do all of that, like how do you feel like that would change your life?
Speaker 2:You know that's a great question. What job you have, you do have the flexibility to go to appointments during the middle of the day, go to the grocery store, cut the grass, whatever you may choose to do. I ain't saying that's what I do, but I'm just saying like in certain days, certain times, certain situations, you do have that flexibility to do specific things. One thing that was really helpful is when I was salaried, my daughter needed to get picked up from the bus stop and of course it's at a weird time at like 2.15. If I was hourly I may not have been able to do that, and then at the time my wife was also I guess I don't even remember maybe hourly at that time, where she didn't have that flexibility to leave to do the same thing either.
Speaker 2:So I think that's one of the benefits of being salary is that you do have that flexibility to kind of get you know normal life stuff done before the masses go, like you can go to go to a grocery store early, like things like that are the benefits that maybe people forget about.
Speaker 2:But and I think that it allows you to have a little bit more balance than maybe a seven to five, eight to five, eight to six, nine to six, whatever that schedule is, cause now you know you, now you have to base all your activities off that specific timeframe where, now you know this summer, fridays, hey, I'm off at two If I don't have no more meetings, I'm you know I'm off for the rest of the day. I can go to the grocery store right now before everybody get off work. So I think those are just some of the benefits of being salaried. You know I can, I can just say, all right, I'm about to go to an appointment, I'll make that two, cause it's more on the honor system at that point in time. So I do like being on the honor system and you know I'll get you your time back. Just let me do what I need to do.
Speaker 3:We don't talk about the honor system money.
Speaker 1:I agree. Um, there are great perks being a single parent, being able to get my kid to wherever he needs to go. That's the perks of being salary. But I just felt like like right now we're in the middle of something really big that's happening at my site and y'all they've been getting an extra, an extra, an extra hours out of me and I've been thinking about like time and a half and all of that and I had to work over the weekend and all of these things, that my work-life balance is just not balanced, especially not this week.
Speaker 1:Now there are some weeks that were lighter and I, you know on the honor system, probably do owe them a couple of these extra hours they got right now. But I would just feel like if there was the eight and skate, y'all could stop playing with me and really try to get the stuff done in eight hours. Um, I don't mind it. I'm also also contracted through. My second job is contracted, so it's hourly, so I'm able to charge them more, I'm able to do things on the times that I want to do it, and I do love that flexibility of saying like y'all want me at this time I charge $200 an hour and they'd be like, oh, okay, cool, and then that's what we do, and that's how that makes it happen.
Speaker 1:And then this's what we do, and that's how that makes it happen, and then this is this what it is. Um, one day I'll go full-time with that, because I would prefer to make 200 an hour and then chill who wouldn't, who wouldn't?
Speaker 2:but yeah to to piggyback off what monty was saying. I do 100 agree, though there are those times, especially in my last role, where where it was like, hey, I need to, I needed on board 15 people and I need to create the training material and I need to vet a new vendor and I need to build a new system that we're using. So now you know you're right. Those are some of those days where I'm doing six to six, six to seven. I can remember during COVID I would do six to seven every day for probably about five months straight. Those are those times where it's just like, all right, wait, if I was hourly you got to give me mines. You know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day I'm making way more money because those five months of me doing that, you know, six to six, six to seven, it probably balances itself out. So there are those. You know it's like a, it's like a double-headed coin, you know it. It just. It's just one of those things, man, it's just.
Speaker 3:I mean the, I would say the consistency of salary when it comes to your paycheck is nice. Yes, absolutely. Again, going back to what you both said, like there are times and days and weeks like I remember uh Jesus again. Previous company that doesn't exist anymore, where hiring managers like if you're not working or not hire, the director was like if you're not working and this is his voice If you're not working 45 hours a week, you're not doing your job.
Speaker 2:And so I took my salary or I guess my hourly and you know, divided it by, like all right you know my salary divide. I was like bro, I don't make that, that's even less than what I was supposed to be making.
Speaker 3:so like I guess that's kind of the question, like how do you find the time to do extra and more when you have projects that have to get done and you're like, okay, I gotta do my work? Like that I was like does a plate drop for you, lamar? Does a plate drop for you, lon Lamar? Does a plate drop for you, lonnie? And then we can come back to me how does that look Like when you had the six to seven? He was giving you an offer. What did you drop in your personal life?
Speaker 2:Man, oh, I remember that that was a trying time right there. I mean, honestly, just my responsibilities as a father and a husband, because, you know, giving direction daily, daily, you know, and just grinding daily, like mentally, you're exhausted at the end of the day. So maybe I was not as friendly, you know, maybe I couldn't help cook dinner this day, or maybe I couldn't go to the grocery store that day. So I think during those times my family felt it the most obviously, you know, just from I'm naturally a laid back, cool guy. So I think they felt it more from my, from my personality standpoint, which now puts the rest of the house on edge, because I'm on edge, like I'm just I'm exhausted, so anything and everything that happens is like it's a big deal.
Speaker 2:Somebody spilled something and didn't clean it up. Now I'm on 10, you know what I'm saying. So it affected in that way, you know, and that's not me, you know I'm, I'm pretty chill, so I think that's where it hurt us the most and I'm not gonna say hurt, I mean maybe hurt is too strong, but that's where we all felt the effects the most is my, my personality, and naturally if I'm on edge, everybody else is on edge that's wild, that I mean that, that that gives you, like getting charged hit, a household type energy.
Speaker 3:But I'm proud of you, I'm proud of you um, inevitably.
Speaker 1:Um, I think about um shonda rhimes when she did that speech and someone was like oh my God, you're this amazing writer, actor, all of these things and you're doing so well as a parent. And she said they said how do you do it? How do you manage it? You don't. If you are effectively doing really well in one thing, something else drops. She was like if I'm killing it on a script for Grey's Anatomy, I missed ballet with my daughter, and it's the same thing. If I'm killing it at work, there's a basketball game or a swim meet or something that I missed.
Speaker 1:Just this past weekend I decided to test and get a couple extra licenses and certificates. That meant I had to spend 20 hours in a classroom. That meant I missed Nate's championship game. That meant I missed his last one practice as well. But in the end, I'm a single parent and he's still going to need someone to pay for basketball and football and swimming and all of the things. So I needed these certificates. Inevitably there's something that's going to get dropped. I did make it up for them and took them to Chuck E Cheese and a couple of other places afterwards, but we had to still celebrate. But at the same time, it's still something gets dropped. You cannot be amazing at everything. It's just finding the balance of what is okay with what you drop.
Speaker 3:It's kind of funny to follow up because there are people that like, fake the fuck I just got, I don't know why. And again, this is relevant and I'm staying on topic. But uh, finished watching beauty and black, the Tyler Perry thing on Netflix and I'm just like, why do we watch this? And he repeats himself but the career woman, and how well, that's one thing that Tyler Perry does very well. Well, that's one thing that Tyler Perry does very well. Let's see you repeat Do not go in that door, lamar, don't go in that door. I'm not going to tell you again Monty, sit down, monty do not. And it's like I'm going to go through that door. I'm like we get it, just go through the door.
Speaker 3:But the point being is like one of the characters is a career woman and it looks like she has it all.
Speaker 3:But you, in my opinion, when you have it all, you kind of drop the ball on something and you know relationships. When I was in mine, the intimacy was dropped, if that makes sense, like with the careers, because it was just everybody was just so busy, we had time to sit down and chill. It was like I don't know if I want to do that because I want to, just so busy and we had time to sit down and chill, it was like I don't know if I want to do that, because I want to do it now, you don't want to do it now, and I kind of like laugh when it comes to, again, work-life balance and it comes to a career, it comes to salary, it comes to hourly, because there's no right answer, because if we could go back to being hourly and we quantify everything that we did, unless it was like you said Lamar and you said Manny, where it's like hey, I'm contracted, send me that hot $200. I feel that it would be really annoying. I feel like it would be frustrating.
Speaker 3:Like what's going on here? What's?
Speaker 2:going on.
Speaker 3:I had to do all this work for this much of pay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh jeez. Nobody makes enough money, nobody. But look, it's a double-edged sword. You could be salaried. I'm doing all this money. I'm doing all this work? For what money?
Speaker 3:but that's the thing like, do you okay? Next question do you feel like a higher salary would attribute to a better work-life?
Speaker 1:balance. Wait, wait, wait. Higher salary, that's all you have to say.
Speaker 3:Or do you feel like there would be more work to add to the higher salary? That's kind of what my question was. Yes, Solana, let's go to you.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I deserve to be paid more. We had a whole entire debate in the finance department a couple days ago about the fact that two of my girls shout out to them deserve raises. That I offered the raise that they were offering me to be split between the two of them, because they've been with us technically longer than I've been at the program and they've been doing this longer. They deserve a raise.
Speaker 1:But they wouldn't even let me. They were like oh, but the bonus was for you, your salary, you do this, you do that. I said, but they've been here longer, split it. But no, seriously, if they then come back with some, oh, they need to do this, this, this and this to get this money, no, you're just going to give them the raise because you weren't even planning on giving it to them in the beginning. You're just going to give them the raise because you weren't even planning on giving it to them in the beginning. So you then can't find something for them to work for and because I'm about to be married rich, I don't really need the money. So, take care of my girls.
Speaker 3:Do they have a?
Speaker 2:I'm not joking. Look, that's the thing for today. This is the third time I didn't have to make it rain because Monty didn't say it.
Speaker 3:I'm just, but you laugh and I'm like I'm being serious. They exist. Straight brothers and gay brothers exist.
Speaker 1:They do, I want.
Speaker 3:Lamar, what say you? How do you feel? Do you feel like a higher salary with money would be a better work-life balance, or do you feel like it would be even more stress?
Speaker 2:Well, for me I'll say this, and this is just for me, I know how high. Let's just say, hypothetically, I'm with a company, I'm with now and I did get a promotion. Let's just say, hypothetically, I'm with a company, I'm with now and I did get a promotion, like I just from being around a while. Like, obviously, when the higher you go, your workload will increase most likely. However, there I do have a limit of how high I want to go, because I don't want to be director, I don't want to be senior manager. Why? Because they still be there at eight o'clock, nine o'clock. I don't want to do that. That's not what I want to do.
Speaker 2:I just want to live very comfortably, I want to have a nice salary, I want to be able to do whatever I want when I want. So for my answer would be I think the way I process things now and the way I handle things now in, like my family situation, I think more money would create better balance, because when that means I'm on vacation, we really vacationing, because now I got that extra cheese that we could really do what we want to do. You know what I mean. So now, cause I get four weeks of vacation. So, like now, I like all right what? Hawaii, hawaii, hawaiian cruise, 14 days? Let's do it. Why, cause I got the bread? Let's do it.
Speaker 3:You brought something up and I kind of want to like jettison to this because, again, this, this segment, is work-life balance. But like, how do you guys spend working on your PTO? And obviously, if I have more money I'd be happy, clearly, I like where this is going. So, like salary hourly, like I feel like if you you have more money, you would work better or smarter, but working on your PTO, how many of us with show of hands have put in a PTO day and it turned out it worked on that PTO day?
Speaker 3:Go ahead and raise your hand. Please raise your hand for the audience at home and for those that are listening on the podcast. All three of us raised our hands and the reason why is because it doesn't matter and again, this is my opinion, this is how I feel, but maybe it's because we were like millennials or we were raised in this era where it's like you got to work, you got to work, you got to work, but like I got to this point in my life where I'm like look if I work, I'm not putting PTO in, Like I don't care if I put PTO in, because our policy with the company I'm with the inverse is true.
Speaker 3:If you work on your PTO, you're not supposed to code in this PTO. It doesn't matter if you call email text, what have you? And that inverse is true if you're completely disconnected. But I don't ever feel like the way that the American dream is now. You can ever completely disconnect because your salary oh okay we'll just get to the email.
Speaker 1:Huh, just because I have no, I don't, that's not true. I have staff and I guess I'm cut. I'm a supervisor that's cut differently. I literally tell them do not take my phone with you on vacation. That is it. I'm not. I'm not going to text you, I'm not going to call you.
Speaker 1:Somebody emails you, somebody sends a smoke signal, you don't have the phone you can't answer it and in the work that we do, I need them to disconnect. I need them to take their time back. I need them to go care for themselves so they can come back, Because what we do takes on other people's stuff. I need them to disconnect. I got two of them getting ready to go to Cabo and I said in them phones, leave them in my office. And I double dog dare y'all to try to come back for them? I'll see y'all when y'all get back. Bring me a key chain or something.
Speaker 2:But you must disconnect. Miley just hit on a good point, though, so I think it depends on your leadership.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Not everybody is a leader of people. You know what I mean. So I think that us millennials are more grounded when it comes to reality. But then now when you get on no disrespect to the boomers, but there's still a lot of boomers out here in the workforce they are are work, work, work, work, work, work. All I want to do is work, work, work. I'm going to make that into a song. That's what they want to do. I use a different melody it's some new stuff. It's coming next year. Anyway, they come with this work, work, work, work till you die. I'm working on vacation. I'm sitting on the beach, work, work, work, work till you die. Like I'm working on vacation. I'm sitting on the beach, work, work, work.
Speaker 2:So I think, depending on the type of leadership that you have really dictates that next step. Like I commend you, monty, for doing that. When I was a manager, that's the type of stuff I did. Hey, I'm not going to message you, because anything that comes across I can just do it myself real quick. It takes me more time to reach out to you and I can just do it myself. So I think, if you get under the right leadership, they will be in that position to say, hey, no, disconnect, recharge, I want the best version of yourself. You know the best version of you when you return. So I definitely think that that is probably the biggest factor right there, because your leader should not allow you to work while you're on PTO.
Speaker 1:It's hard. It's hard but even at our site, you got to understand. We have boomers above me, so you got to understand I get to be middle manager, millennial manager, and then above me are boomers, boomers way beyond retirement age.
Speaker 2:And I don't want us to get canceled. So, look, not all are disconnected.
Speaker 1:Let me just say that not all of them we're not saying that, we are saying that there are there is a subsection of the boomers who feel like work is yeah, work is of the most importance, that even on your work day, you're supposed to still be connected to your phone, you're still supposed to do all of these things, you're supposed to still be connected to the place, like we don't have lives outside of the job. Um, but that's just not true. But we all have children, we all have different things. I feel like the reason why we all get sicker faster is because we never just take the time to just rest until we're sick, which is insane preach, preacher.
Speaker 3:Um, so I mean these conversations I do love having because they can kind of go on, but like, okay, do you feel like, since we're talking about work-life balance, do you feel like if money wasn't and this is one of those wishful thinking questions wasn't an actual motivator? So if everything in the world was free, you would take a job or a career or something that didn't pay you great, but you have fun doing yes so you say you would, um, I kind of crack up because I'd be thinking like dang, wouldn't it be awesome just to pick up dog poop?
Speaker 3:I know that sounds, let's listen. As long as it's not super hot or super cold, it's not a terrible gig. Let me scoop up some dog poop, monica's like.
Speaker 2:I'm not doing that. Look, I ain't doing it either. I'm with you.
Speaker 1:I get what you mean. It goes back to like what I said about my mom and my mom saying that you have to do what you love so you don't feel like you're working and you just gotta have fun in whatever you're doing, because you don't want work to just feel like a dread and always be pulling at you and taking it from you. You gotta feel like it's giving something back to you at the same time. It's the only way you don't feel like you're just doing something for nothing, but no, I'm not going to do.
Speaker 3:I don't even pump gas, so you're not going to get me to scoop no poop, quietly, quietly, for the people in public making it rain.
Speaker 2:Yes, making it rain very slowly right now, Because I said I don't pump gas.
Speaker 1:Because I said I don't pump gas?
Speaker 3:No, it was just the tone that came with it. There's only two places in the United States that have pump attendance. I'm pretty sure it's like Oregon and Montana, I know it's either. Oregon or Montana, but I know it's New Jersey. It's like they. I went to New Jersey one year, 2012, and on some real stuff I'm like what are you doing? I'm like what do you mean? What am I doing? It's like oh, we don't get out and pump gas, we have people for that. I said oh, that's an actual job.
Speaker 2:That's a make it rain moment right there too.
Speaker 1:It looks like I want to move to Montana or Oregon or New Jersey, or one of these men got to get it together, but I don't pump gas, so maybe I need to figure out where to go. Huh, who pumps your gas? Next question, please.
Speaker 2:I'll say this If I am with my wife, she does not pump gas either.
Speaker 1:So I'll put context for myself. Even if someone is not with me, I will get the gas station man or someone else that is there to pump the gas.
Speaker 3:They should be, sir. Yes, I'm like 21. And then can you come Can you come, I don't know how to you don't know how to pump gas. No.
Speaker 1:You see my nails?
Speaker 3:I don't and look, you want to know what it hurts.
Speaker 1:I've never had to do it. It works. I've never had to pump gas.
Speaker 3:It worked too, because this will be me. You think I'm about to leave my gas station empty. Lock the door.
Speaker 2:This is her? Look, she got the answer Lock the door.
Speaker 3:It'll be fine Back in five. Or you know what you could do is. You could pump it and I could drive off without you know like you decide.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you got the sauce, you got the sauce, don't get upset, it's just Casper. He did just get upset real quick. He's calm now.
Speaker 1:It was just, you know, I mean, but my mama and daddy said that the ladies aren't supposed to pump gas, so I wasn't supposed to find somebody to pump the gas.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 1:Only time. If I'm on a road by myself in the middle of nowhere, you could tell I'm by myself. That's dire and straight. But most of the time I got one of these boys with me, so I don't gotta worry about that.
Speaker 3:That's fair. You know, I'm going to go ahead and say this the work-life balance is important to happy employees. That's number one. And I, going back from being like a manager to we call it individual contributor at my job, or people leader, to, you know, individual contributor, you kind of sit back and be able to like, wow, I don't like this, I don't like that. I'm just like it's funny because it doesn't matter what happens unless you went in at every aspect. Somebody's going to say something, somebody's going to do something. Birthright balance. I'll never forget People.
Speaker 3:Oh shoot, previous company every Friday we'd have a meeting, didn't matter if you were working or not. We had a Friday morning meeting at 8 o'clock Every Friday, part-time, didn't matter. So people are like, well, I'm off, still coming to the meeting. Only exception was obviously PTO. But if you weren't on PTO, there was a Friday morning meeting at 8 o'clock and we'd have to go over what the situations were to talk about it. And sometimes I kind of sit back and laugh because, you know, in 2025, I don't feel like a lot of companies use the technology they pay for because we, you know, going back to work-life balance, I don't think the people that are in these high-paid salary roles are connected to those that are in the field or like are talking to customers or like. I feel like they're really disconnected. What?
Speaker 2:say y'all.
Speaker 3:Do y'all feel like that's the true thing? Do y'all feel like the people that are like really high up or like making the decisions, the things that are really affecting us? Do you feel like they're?
Speaker 2:connected? No, they're. They are not connected at all, and that's why they make some of the the, the dumb aid decisions that they'd be making decisions that they be making.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, because most of the time you can tell the people who are disconnected from the work when they start making decisions that make absolutely no sense to the work that you do and you realize that's because you don't. And I really wish if there's a couple people who watch these, just because they want to pay attention to what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So I can't say what I deal with, but just know, but just know just know that I feel like my higher ups have no idea what my boobs on the ground, who are right underneath me, do on a day to day basis, based off of the list of things they want to cut in the last couple days out of our budget.
Speaker 3:I agree, and it's funny because, like it doesn't matter and again this is my opinion it doesn't matter what we say or do. Because business is going to business, things are going to move and again obviously probably just switched over to purely political to talk about these things. But the way the world is going, with the economy in the united states, I feel like the obviously cost of living is going up, but it's just wild because it's like, okay, our salary is going to, they're not going to, they're not going to go up.
Speaker 2:Well, I feel this leader was talking today that we may not have income tax.
Speaker 3:Can we get rid of?
Speaker 1:that? No, because he wants to go back to the tariff system that we started the country with. But he also raised the tariffs and people are not going to want to play with us and candidates said they're going to cut our power. That's real.
Speaker 2:It will directly affect us. We might need to revisit that like it don't? Yeah, he ain't in them. States that align canada, uh, you know, or border it affects us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it affects us. I joked. Today I didn't want to go to work today. I did go to work, though, so if you watch this, whatever I did say, canada today would have been a good day.
Speaker 3:I want to say this and this is again topic, not topic but yeah, if the power does get clipped, can it just be like at five o'clock in the morning while it was on the road, because I can. Just what's going on in Michigan and how they're replacing 2-6-96? And diverted all the traffic and everything, and people already don't know how to?
Speaker 2:I wanted to be in that meeting, like who decided to do that whole chunk? Like we couldn't just do like two-mile stretches at a time, like we just had to do the whole. I mean, I guess it really. No, it does matter. I don't know why they did it that way, but what do I know? I don't know anything.
Speaker 3:Two years. I'm just going to keep saying two years, two years.
Speaker 1:I wasn't part of those conversations.
Speaker 3:Were you.
Speaker 1:We can talk offline.
Speaker 2:For the listeners, I'm doing the Make it Rain sign again.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I want to talk offline now.
Speaker 2:I might just end this segment, right here my heart.
Speaker 3:I will say something. My East Side friends are like oh, when are we going to hang out again In two years? Because the one thing I'm going to tell y'all, if I can't get home in 30 minutes, yeah, you ain't never lie. Best you're going to get is a video chat from me, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to make it interesting. My son starts his official apprenticeship program in a couple weeks and it's down in the city off the boulevard and I'm just like son, I'm like what you're going to have to do is, and he's like, huh, I'm like what you're going to have to do is. I said like what you gonna have to do is, and he's like, huh, I'm like what you gonna have to do is. I said what you gonna have to do, jump on telegraph, take telegraph down to square lake, square lake to updike, and then updike to 59 and 59 across. He's like what?
Speaker 3:don't get it, he gonna have to listen. Listen, he gonna have to figure it out. He will. If he don't, if he he's like he just won't have his apprenticeship Again, work-life balance He'll have more of his life instead of work to do. Well, thank you guys for coming to another segment of Career Centric Before I get us all off topic. So so far I miss Simply Sports.
Speaker 2:I just have to say Don't worry, look, there's some things happening. Yeah, we can get to revving it up soon don't make me cry.
Speaker 3:I'm so happy that you guys bye, bye.