Time-Traveling OBE Master Exposes Ancient Hidden Truths - Rick Pyle

Hey there, fellow explorers! 

I’m Gareth, your host of The Endless Possibilities Podcast, and I’m thrilled to share some incredible insights from our latest episode featuring Rick Pyle, the mastermind behind the Astral Club YouTube channel. Rick’s lifelong journey with out-of-body experiences (OBEs) is nothing short of extraordinary, and I can’t wait for you to dive into this episode. Here are some of the main takeaways and fascinating tidbits that will surely spark your curiosity:

Key Lessons and Ideas:
Early Beginnings: Rick’s first astral projection happened when he was just a few months old! Imagine floating above your house as a baby and later describing it in detail to your parents.
Childhood Adventures: By age four, Rick was already rolling out of his body and flying around his neighborhood. He thought everyone had these experiences until his peers called him weird.
Navigating Fear: Rick’s encounters with shadowy figures and other entities taught him that fear feeds these beings. His advice? Stay calm and remember they lack true intelligence.
Historical Interviews: Rick has interviewed over 400 disembodied souls, including historical figures like Jesus and Genghis Khan. His YouTube channel is a treasure trove of these conversations.
Astral Travel Tips: Beginners often experience vibrational sensations. Rick’s tip: Don’t fear the shadowy figures—they thrive on fear.
Unique Encounters: From comforting a gruesome spirit on a playground to meeting extraterrestrial beings, Rick’s astral travels are filled with awe-inspiring stories.
Time Travel: Rick has ventured back to prehistoric times and even into the future, meeting tribes in 15,000 AD. Time, he says, is an illusion in the astral realm.
Spiritual Guides: Rick met his spiritual guide in college—a straight-laced man in a business suit who eventually developed a sense of humor.
Practical Advice: Avoid projecting into active cemeteries, electric substations, and battlefields due to heavy or negative energies.
Curiosities to Ponder:
Lucid Dreams vs. Astral Projection: Rick describes lucid dreams and astral projection as “cousins.” Lucid dreams can often lead to astral projections and vice versa.
Extraterrestrial Encounters: Rick’s astral travels have taken him to the moon, other planets, and even aboard alien crafts. His experiences with different species, like the Pleiadians and Reptilians, are mind-blowing.

Why You Should Listen:
Rick’s journey is a testament to the endless possibilities that lie beyond our physical reality. Whether you’re a seasoned astral traveler or just curious about the non-physical realm, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice. Plus, Rick’s stories are not only enlightening but also incredibly entertaining.

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Rick 00:00:00  When I was a kid, I had very strong vibrational stages, and then sometimes as I left my body, I would hear radio stations, disembodied voices, music. Sometimes they were whispering about me. And whatever your parents whisper about you, it's never a good thing. I heard them saying, maybe we should take him to a doctor because I'd been telling them about my experience.

Gareth 00:00:21  You're going out a body and you're finding past figures like maybe Jesus or Genghis Khan, and you're somehow connecting with them, and then you're you're conducting an interview in the non-physical, coming back, jotting it all down, and then putting this into a video series or a vlog by putting it up on your YouTube channel.

Rick 00:00:42  My goal is to give them the benefit of my years of experience, because everything for me was trial and error. Astral projection. First of all, it helps you to get over one of the worst fears of mankind death. You realize that death is just an illusion.

Speaker 3 00:01:00  Welcome to the Endless Possibilities podcast, where the journey of spiritual awakening and energy healing unfolds.

Speaker 4 00:01:09  Hi guys, welcome to the channel. This is the Endless Possibilities podcast. My name is Gareth and I'm your host today for another mind blowing episode. Today on the show I have Rick Pyle. Rick is the man behind the Astral Club on YouTube. He has an incredible YouTube channel. He is an out-of-body explorer exploring the out-of-body state since he's been a child, and he has compiled over 400 interviews. Rick has this this system that he's he's come up with, where he goes out of body and he seeks out, figures that have passed on. And he interviews people like Jesus and, you know, different, famous people. And he then puts it up on his YouTube channel and he can listen to the interviews. So he's fascinating character. yeah. So let's get into the interview now. Rick, welcome to the show. Thank you for being here.

Rick 00:02:13  Well, thank you, Gareth. I appreciate your invitation.

Speaker 4 00:02:17  Yeah, yeah, you've got a really fascinating YouTube channel, lots of great videos. and, I mean, your background is out-of-body experiences, and it's been something that I fell in love with maybe 14 or 15 years ago.

Speaker 4 00:02:33  I've, I've, I must have listened to Bob Monroe's audiobooks a hundred times over and over. I just love all this stuff. So I'm really excited for this conversation. And we'll just jump in to. For those who don't know you or don't know your background, what got you interested in out-of-body experience as Rick?

Rick 00:02:54  Well, it kind of goes back to right before this lifetime, I believe. my first astral projection was I was about 3 or 4 months old, and I was lying in my bassinet. It was a beautiful day. I was just staring up at the blue sky, not thinking really about much of anything. and I could sense my mother was very nearby, and I, I saw this spider come down on this little string here, and, I'm not from Australia, so we don't have monsters like that, but, it frightened me, and I couldn't cry. And I couldn't move because the body was still very much undeveloped. So I did what came natural to me. I just jumped out of my body, went up about 50ft, or about 15m in Celsius or Celsius centigrade.

Rick 00:03:47  No Celsius, no metric. Sorry, 15m Meters metric. Now we're on the old system here. I got to convert things in my head. so, anyway, I was up about 50 degree, 50ft up in the air, 15m. And I was just kind of looking around. I saw my mother, next to my best. And that with her bikini on, doing sunbathing. I didn't really feel or think about much of anything, as I recall, I had some curiosity. So I went to our little apartment and just looked around. Because, you know, when you're a baby, you don't really have much of a viewpoint. and years later, I was able to describe to my parents what our apartment looked like, even though we moved when I was 11 months old. So I really shouldn't have any kind of a clear memory, but something about the astral projection that has allowed me to keep those type of memories in my conscious mind. that's how it all began, quite frankly, before this lifetime.

Rick 00:04:47  This is a bit of an expanded answer for you. I volunteered to come back to this to earth. I didn't have to. I could have done other things, but I wanted to spread. I'll take care of my family. But I also wanted to spread spiritual knowledge. like astral projection, for instance. So I was granted the ability to pick my siblings and to pick my parents. And I have four pre life memories. That's before this lifetime. the first was I was hovering outside of, of all places, a German beer garden. And my father was in the military. the American military was sitting at a table outside with three other of his, soldier companions, and I just liked the feel of him. I liked his intelligence, his sense of humor, the way he laughed. And I'd known him before, too. I knew that right off the bat. So I decided he was going to be my father. The next memory I had before this lifetime. But my parents are still alive.

Rick 00:05:48  They're lovely, and they're not alcoholics. But this is how the story goes. The next memory I have. I was in a bar and my father was there. And you might see, I whispered in his ear. Look over to your right. He did. Locked eyes with a woman who wanted to be my mother. The rest is history. Third memory. I went to my mother was pregnant, and I wasn't inside the fetus all the time. I just kind of touched base, like we say in baseball here in America. You know, I just. I just wanted to feel what was going on, make sure everything was okay. And I was able to see her office and where she sat. And years later, I was able to tell her that. And she quit before I was born. I mean, those days, women, quite awfully, quite, often quit their jobs to raise children. The fourth time, I was rushing to the hospital. I remember the so clearly just flying to the hospital because I knew I was being born and I had to connect once and for all if I was going to have that lifetime.

Rick 00:06:47  And at first, I undershot the hospital. the floor that I was on, and I was in the basement, and there was this old man who was obviously sad standing over this covered stretcher, which I assumed was his body. I wanted to help him, but I didn't have time because I was being pulled up through the floors. And I still remember the glimpses as I was going up. Next thing I knew, I was inside the infant. It was bright lights. It was cold, and I got a whack on the butt to get the old lungs going. Now I hear they massage the butt to get the lungs going. But back then they gave you a smack. And if you think about life here on earth, you get more smacks than you get massages.

Speaker 4 00:07:30  I definitely got more smacks than I got massages, Rick.

Rick 00:07:34  Well, that's a little bit about the beginning of everything.

Speaker 4 00:07:37  So you were just hanging around as a disembodied awareness or consciousness, kind of observing the life that you were about to come into?

Rick 00:07:45  Yes.

Rick 00:07:47  I didn't actually bond until that moment of birth.

Speaker 4 00:07:51  Okay. Okay. And. Okay. Fast forward. Okay. When? So a common thing that I noticed, right? Myself included, I had some very young experiences, maybe 3 or 4 years of age, floating out of the body, floating around the house. My grandmother's house. Oh, great. And then a closing down. And just been a regular teenager going through my, you know, 20s finding a job. And then the the pulled for exploration came back then kind of in my mid 20s. Was that similar for you or did you keep a lot of that sort of damn spiritual gifts?

Rick 00:08:31  Well, I don't have memories left before age four or so. I had I mean, I had been doing projections. I had that feeling that I was, but it wasn't until I was around four that I have actual, real good memories right now of my parents putting me to bed, and then I'd wait a little bit and I'd roll out of my body onto the floor, pick myself up.

Rick 00:08:55  I could see through my hands. So yeah, I'm out. And then I would just either go downstairs and see what they were up to, or I'd fly through our picture window and then fly around our our forest, or fly around down by the local elementary school and go inside and run around, which was infinitely interesting to me back in those days, just running around that dark school that's, you know. Those are some of my beginning memories. And it was just for me flying around. I didn't really have any knowledge about what it was or what I was doing. I assumed everybody was doing it. when they talked about dreams, I kind of thought that's what they were talking about, too. It wasn't until I went to kindergarten when I was talking to the other kids, and they looked at me strange and called me weird, and I was a liar. So I stopped talking to them. But I never stopped projecting because it was so much fun at that age that, there's no way I was going to give that up.

Rick 00:09:55  And and it does kind of separate you, though, from your peers. You've got this secret that's a big part of you that you can't share with other people, and certainly that, you know, that that does cause a little bit of, of concern. My parents, I overheard them once when I was a few years older, and they were whispering about me. And whatever your parents whisper about you, it's never a good thing. And I heard him saying, maybe we should take him to a doctor, because I've been telling them about my experiences. I don't hold it against them. It was the 60s in a small town. Nobody had any idea about astral projection or out of the body experiences. but luckily they didn't. So I didn't go on some medication that would have zoned me out. but I started keeping a complete secret from everybody. I started keeping journals, though, when I learned how to write. And I still happened to this day at boxes and boxes of these yellow and white tablets with all these journal entries and, you know, most of it I can't really use for an episode because it's kids stuff, something that kids find interesting, but nobody wants a whole 20 minute episode of me running around my elementary school or even flying over our woods.

Rick 00:11:10  But those are those are really my earlier type experiences, and I continue to project, and I never really stopped. I mean, there were periods of time when, not much was going on, and then there were other periods of time when a lot of rejections were going on. I've noticed over the years that the phase of the moon has something to do with it. I've noticed that as the moon becomes full, it's just so easy for me to. Because I feel like I'm being pulled out. the air. Time with a new moon. Much less so. But that's how it was for me as a kid.

Speaker 4 00:11:45  And Rick, what about the teenage years? Did it. Did it quiet down?

Rick 00:11:51  No, actually, kind of sped up. Really. and my telepathic and other skills started kicking in, too, because I started communicating with entities on the on the astral. And you used telepathy? Of course. So it started to stick, and I started to sense people's thoughts. My family was the clearest, but I sensed thoughts from the teacher, from other students.

Rick 00:12:15  it was quite eerie. After a while.

Speaker 4 00:12:17  It's funny because I immediately had to talk to ask you about your parents, and you just immediately answered me.

Rick 00:12:27  It happens. It happens.

Speaker 4 00:12:29  So that's. Yeah. That's fascinating. okay. So. So for you, there was no real. I want to have an out-of-body experience, right? Because for me, there was I had a fear of of dying. any of my early memories or, you know, the early abilities that I had of of having out-of-body experience and mystical experience. They disappeared for me. And I had a very normal kind of childhood, teenage years. Oh, well. Typical, right? No, I won't say normal. and then later on, I just kind of had this feeling of of of dejection. Life had no meaning to me. I wanted to, you know, find answers. So I started researching, and then I came across Bob Monroe. Right. He seems to be the one for a lot of people.

Speaker 4 00:13:16  So for me, I wanted to get out of body. But you were always having out-of-body experiences.

Rick 00:13:22  Yes, I was, yes, I was it was something that happened really. It started out naturally as a baby and it just continued. Sure, every now and again, if I'd had a bit of a of a of a time without projections, I put more energy into doing it, but for the most part it would kick in by itself. and I also woke up to to to Robert Monroe. I didn't know what to call what I was doing. I knew it was. I had to keep it secret. But in 1972, I ran across Bob Monroe's journeys out of the body. I bought that book, took it home. I read it with a flashlight all night long. And he. I had school in the morning, but I didn't care, because here was this. This gentleman. He. He wasn't some kook or a hippie. He was a businessman, an entrepreneur, a pilot.

Rick 00:14:13  And he talked about experiences that were just like mine.

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Rick 00:15:09  Is that we're just like mine. And that made me say, well, first of all, this is great. But also I'm not alone. I'm not mentally ill.

Rick 00:15:19  Because here's this gentleman, he's doing the same thing, and he's a very respected member of the community.

Speaker 5 00:15:27  But Rick, he really.

Speaker 4 00:15:28  Struggled with that. You know, was he actually having a brain tumor. Right? Was something affecting his health? Was he dying? So there.

Speaker 5 00:15:38  Was a lot of fear for.

Speaker 4 00:15:39  Bob. You? Not so much because it was so natural.

Rick 00:15:43  Yeah, I've been doing it ever since I could remember. For me, it was as natural as dreaming. so, I mean, sure, there were things occasionally that would pop up, especially in the lower astral that was, that could be a bit frightening, to people who don't really know what's going on. And as a kid, I would get frightened sometimes, but it didn't stop me because I found so much joy in it. Just flying through the night sky was, was was great for me back in those days. And today I still love doing it. I don't talk about it in episodes because it doesn't make for an interesting episode, but I still do that.

Rick 00:16:23  Flying through the Night sky is one of the most thrilling things that that I've ever done, so there's no way I'm going to stop in that, in that, from from astral projecting. It's it's too, too great, too entertaining, too amazing just to try to stop it. Luckily, since I've been doing it forever, this paralyzing fear never really got a grip on me. And after a while seeing a spirit wandering around, it was just another day for me. So, you know, I had some odd experiences, but for me it was just a greater part of reality. You know, life can be scary, but you can't just stop, you know? So, you know, I think it's done a lot for me. It's it's made me who I am today for whether that's good or bad. It's helped me to deal with fear of other things, to realize that if I can do astral projection and see all these odd things, then I can handle whatever they've got here on the physical plane.

Rick 00:17:25  That's that's nothing compared to some of the challenges on the astral.

Speaker 4 00:17:29  Well, so one thing I noticed is that you're really trying to help a lot of people. Right. I was I've been looking all the amazing content you've compiled and put up on your YouTube channel. hours and hours and hours of of interviews with disembodied, souls. And we get into that in a little bit, but just to just to come back briefly the vibrational stage. Was that something you were experiencing when you were having these separations or did that, you know, for one of the things that I noticed when I talk to experienced OB people is that the vibrational state gets less and less the more experiences they have gone out. Was that something that was happening for you? Did you notice that.

Rick 00:18:10  When I was a kid, I had very strong vibrational stages, and then sometimes I and as I left my body, I would hear radio stations or voices, disembodied voices, music sometimes. And then there'd be a moment of blackness and I'd be out of my body today.

Rick 00:18:29  All of that is kind of short cut. I feel myself leaving my body. There's a moment of blackness, and then I'm out wherever I want to be, and I just take it from there. So I think, yeah, I agree that it has become essentially a very streamlined process now, but but I notice newer people have a lot of these experiences and that's why I talk about them. So my goal is to give them the benefit of my years of experience, because everything for me was trial and error until I was, you know, 12 or 13 years old, read Bob Monroe's book. so I want to make sure they understand that once they leave their body, for instance, they might see a shadow figure in the corner. Don't feed it with fear. Just ignore it. It'll go away. It's nothing more than a natural parasite. Like an annoying mosquito. It doesn't have intelligence. It just feeds on fear and those types of negative emotions. so, you know, that's that's how it's been.

Speaker 4 00:19:32  Okay. We'll get into that. And I just want to come back. Just you. There was no YouTube when you were doing this, right? There was no internet. So you were you were trying to figure all of this out as a kid. you know, getting out of body, maybe meeting these beings. Kind of like Bob Monroe's first book, right? He hadn't a clue what was going on. It took him. Maybe, you know, a hundred times of just getting out and moving around his house before he could go further. Did you have fear, fear of any of these beings early on or, or how did they start to turn up. Right. Because when you were a kid, you were flying around. When did you start to notice that there was other intelligences when you got into this out-of-body state?

Rick 00:20:13  Well, from time to time, I encountered different types of being. I remember there was one being that, came to me when I was on the school playground in my astral body and I was in the lower levels.

Rick 00:20:26  But as a kid I was mostly in the lower levels because I didn't know how to go up. For me, flying was about as high as I could go. Anyway, it was he showed up. He looked pretty gruesome. He'd been in some sort of an accident, and he was a he was a special person, and he just was kind of attracted to me. And and once I got over how he looked, I just started talking to him like a mother might talk to a child. And eventually I got the idea to let him know that he's passed on and that, yeah, we can play here a little bit, but it's time for him to move on. And I started comforting him, quieting down his fears. And then eventually he just disappeared and I never saw him again. I think my ignorance was a benefit at that point. I was too dumb to know to be afraid. So I took these things, like many kids do, at face value. I just figured, oh well, that's the way it is.

Rick 00:21:30  You know, sometimes in physical life you see weird people. You just deal with it. You just get used to it. And as I said before, because it was such an amazing experience for me that there was no way I was going to stop. at worst, yeah, I might get frightened and I'll be pulled back to my body immediately. But I knew also that there was always that safety. I always had that astral cord connecting me to my physical body. And then if that, if I was afraid or any type of feeling like that, it goes along my astral cord, just like a telephone line, and then you just get pulled back again, that's the worst that can happen. So with that kind of knowledge, I, you know, I guess I just dealt with that fear in, in a way that I didn't allow it to conquer me or to prevent me from doing what I felt I needed to do.

Speaker 4 00:22:22  Okay. And what about higher, higher intelligences like guides and stuff like that? Like, when did they start turning up for you?

Rick 00:22:30  Well, not until much later.

Rick 00:22:33  in life, when I was, I think really college was the first time I asked for and met my guide. It never. People asked me today. Oh. Did you have a guide with you when you were a kid? I said it never occurred to me that you could have such a thing. So I never asked for or sorted out. And to this day, I'm. I'm very much of a of an individualist. I like going my own way. I like going where I want to go and doing whatever I wish to do. I don't need someone holding my hand. And I certainly did it by the time I was going to college, because by then I'd had, I don't know, thousands of experiences. So I just never felt the need. I ended up reading a book that said, oh, you can summon your guide. And so I said, okay, I'll try that. And that's when he showed up and I met him and he was very straight laced. wearing a business suit.

Rick 00:23:30  And, since then, I've loosened him up quite a bit. He actually understands humor at this point. but you know that that's Hawaii. I just never knew that I should be really paralyzed and afraid. I just assumed it was just another thing I had to deal with. And I had that safety always going back to my body. Worst case scenario, I'll just go back.

Speaker 4 00:23:56  Lucid dreams. Did you start having lucid dreams as well? Is that something that started happening?

Rick 00:24:01  Yes, yes. I think lucid dreams and astral projection are cousins. Yeah. You know, when you start having that, that type of awareness, it can feed into lucid dreams. And in fact, you can go from a lucid dream to an astral projection or an acid a rejection into a dream. So. So yes, I started having them and I had a lot of fun with them long before I discovered how to astral project from them. And I remember there was one particular dream I had. I was standing in the back of my parents yard, and I had just watched Charlton Heston in The Ten Commandments.

Rick 00:24:36  That's where he was, Moses, and with his staff parting the waters, all of that. And there were people standing next to me, some neighbors. And I said, I'm going to throw down these woods and bring in a boiling sea. And of course, they laughed at me. So I totally went like this. And the woods fell down. And then this huge tsunami of boiling water started coming in from the horizon, and they started freaking out. So I said, fear not, for I shall stop this wave and then put up my hand out and it froze solid. that so lucid dreams were a lot of fun because in a lucid dream, of course, you're the producer, you're the director, you're the executive producer. You're the actor. You're everything so you can control the environment. So it's a lot of fun when you project in the astral. You learn pretty quickly that, like the physical, it's a plane that exists outside of you.

Speaker 4 00:25:28  You don't have as much control.

Rick 00:25:29  Really manipulate it with a thought.

Rick 00:25:32  So lucid dreams are a lot of fun.

Speaker 4 00:25:34  Yeah, I've had the lucid dreams as well, where I become aware in the dream and then all of a sudden, boom, the body starts vibrating, and then I can project, in, in an out-of-body experiences. So for me, they were always a prelude to an out-of-body experience. And I've also had the same ones where where I've been out of body and then come back and then gone into a lucid dream.

Rick 00:25:58  Yeah. That's quite, you know, it happens often.

Speaker 4 00:26:00  Yeah, yeah. Okay, so so Bob Monroe calls it locale too, right? We, we we project out of our physical form. We're in a sort of a copy of our physical body, which is like an astral body, and we can move around either by flying or using our mind to project where we want to go. Right. So when did you discover that there were other worlds, like astral realms, that you could get into for me early on? the best I could think of was to go to, oh, take me to the car park or go here.

Speaker 4 00:26:39  Or go. You know, I couldn't I couldn't think quick enough to get into these astral realms. So when did you start getting into them, and what sort of experiences did you have there?

Rick 00:26:48  Well, for me, the most interesting things that happened at that age were were space travel and time travel. space travel started where most space travel start going to the moon. Neil Armstrong had just landed on the moon in 1969. We saw the fuzzy, Camera footage of him hopping around on the moon. I thought that was neat. So that was really the first off Earth place that I went. And, the first time I went to the moon, I took off like a rocket. And I never moved that fast before. Of course, we know that if you want to get to the moon, you have to fly pretty darn fast. especially if you want to do it within the time of an astral projection, which never lasts more than 15 or 20 minutes, tops. And, so I enjoyed that.

Rick 00:27:39  I was I was bouncing around the moon because that's what I saw the astronauts do. And I was looking back and I wrote down on my journal, it's a half Earth tonight. And it was it was an amazing experience. And from there I went on to other planets and eventually stars. Time travel was interesting to me though, too, because, I love history and and back then, I love dinosaurs as a kid. So my first time travel, I went back to about 75 million years ago And I was in this jungle and this creature came out. It looked like a kind of a an ostrich. It. And it had feathers. So when I got back to my body, I wrote down that I must have failed to get there because dinosaurs don't have feathers. which, of course we believe. Then, and then, you know, another time I traveled back and I was hovering over this beautiful delta as the sun was beginning to rise and I saw these what I thought were logs lying on the beach until I got closer.

Rick 00:28:44  And I saw that they were huge crocodilians. Their head was as big as my body. And I thought for a second, which was my first animal, trip to. I wonder what that one's thinking as it was warming up and bam! I was inside its body and I was hearing what it was thinking. Very primitive thoughts, very fuzzy, because it was kind of just waking up. And just for fun, I used it's, leg pour. I don't know what you call them. Anyway, I wrote two plus two equals four in the sand. My four was misshapen. It's hard to make a fork with that limb. And I thought, how funny would it be? And some poor archaeologist dug that up in the future and totally was going to ruin his career for saying the dinosaurs had mathematics in Arabic letters and numerals. anyway, that those were some of my, some of the trips that I enjoyed. What I found later on was that you could travel into the what we call the future.

Rick 00:29:46  Of course, there is no future. There is no past, present or future. That's the time, space, illusion. There's only an eternal now. And you can see that very realistically as you project in the astral. And I eventually figured out that if I flew far enough through Will, that whenever I write, will I write it all in caps? Whenever I was able to will myself into the future, if I went up far enough, I could stay there much longer and I could even interact with physical people because I had a body that was visible at that point in time. So there was a that was quite interesting to me. And eventually I'd meet my tribe in the year 15,000 A.D. in what is today Indiana. And I spent four winters there before I was pulled back when I was unaware, and only about 15 or 20 minutes had passed during that whole four years. It was funny. I sat in my car for about 20 minutes. My wife came out to the garage and said, are you okay? Because I was reviewing all the controls because I hadn't driven for so long, at least to me.

Rick 00:30:54  and I was really missing my wife and daughter, and so I was extra happy to see them when they were like, what's going on? We just went to sleep last night. You I was like, you haven't seen us. But. So there's like that second life you can live and, and interact with future people. Those were the those were the planes that I would project to at that stage of the game. I didn't really go, into the higher levels of the astral, so I went into college.

Speaker 4 00:31:23  Okay, so a lot of the out-of-body explorers, Bob Monroe, Bruce Mullen was another guy. The Monroe Institute, they have they have all of these different, CD collections where they teach you how to do soul retrievals, and and it's like you're being put to work. Did you sort of get that calling that you you they wanted you to do work. They wanted you to go. And, you know, a big part of Bob Monroe was, he would get his beacon calling him, you know, and he would be pulled out to these places where somebody had died.

Speaker 4 00:31:54  And they were they were trapped. And he would help to to bring them back to where they were supposed to go. Did that happen for you, Rick?

Rick 00:32:01  It happened. more or less kind of like that. But also, I would just be, you know, flying around different places and I would encounter these, these spirits, who were in the lower astral and were confused and angry and didn't know where to go. I, I just went to them because they needed help now. Most of them would ignore me. because they were in their own little private world, their own little private hell. And I couldn't help them. But the ones that I could help, I just helped because it was the right thing to do. I didn't think anything special of it. It's just like if you're walking down the street today and there's somebody who obviously needs help, you're going to stop and help them. that's that's all it was. I didn't think of it as any great calling or anything. It was just something you're supposed to do as a human, to your fellow humans.

Rick 00:32:57  And, the first one I ever help was a neighbor who lived right across from us, and she had always she wasn't very good with the kids. If our ball went on on her lawn, she would yell at us. And so we kind of stayed away from her. But I saw her outside her home after she passed, and she was obviously upset and didn't know what was going on. So I went to her and just talk with her, ask her what was going on, and she told me and eventually I told her. I said, you know, you've passed on and it's it's okay, it's fine. You know, you just need to get calm and to ask for help and send that out into the, into space. And then you'll get the help that you need to move on from here. And I just remember the look of peace on her face when she finally did that and then disappeared. That was so amazing to me that I could help in that process because that I've never seen that look of peace in this lifetime here on earth.

Rick 00:34:03  But I've seen it now a number of times on the faces of people who had just been frightened and terrified or wrapped up in their physical lives and traumas and regrets. And you see that all smooth away, all those wrinkles go away, and then they just take this beautiful, unearthly light around them and and that come serene face. And then they move on. And that, to me, is just such a wonderful experience that, you know, I wanted to share it with anyone who I would come across. And eventually my, my guide, when I met him would take me on different types of missions or send me places. But back then, it was just something I did just because I could, I didn't, you know, I didn't think anything much about it other than just helping somebody.

Speaker 4 00:34:58  And would you go with them and would you get to witness what was happening? I think they called it like the park. Right? You know, the sort of intermediate place where souls would go and they would rest in between lives.

Speaker 4 00:35:11  did you get to witness any of them places?

Rick 00:35:13  No, I didn't follow them. I felt that where they were going was where they needed to go right now. My job was to help them make that step, not to follow them. if they were making that step, they were going to have help. Much more qualified than I am. So no, I, I didn't I didn't see that as my job, really, or as my place.

Speaker 4 00:35:37  Okay. And fear tests. So, so just I'm just using myself. I'm using as an example how my obs changed. So they went from me having the experiences, you know, flying around here, flying around there. And then all of a sudden it was like, oh, let's now put you into Classrooms. And we'll make these simulations where you have to make decisions. And I know I read these about these in Bob Munro's books where he would like, you know, have to do something and he would fail, and then it would happen again and he would do it a different way, and so on and so on.

Speaker 4 00:36:10  did that happen to you as well? Rick?

Rick 00:36:12  Well, I attended a national guide school for a period of time, and it's one of my playlists, along with Space and Aliens Q&A interviews with entities. And there's over 400 episodes now. For me, it was, I don't know, it wasn't quite like that, but it was just something that I just instinctively went along with. I don't I didn't have some of that, some of those things that, that Bob, experienced. But and it may be because he started later in life and I started earlier, perhaps it was that I mean, the Astro was what you make of it. And if you go in with certain preconceptions, it'll present itself differently than if you don't. So, you know, I had similar experiences, but not exactly like that.

Speaker 4 00:37:05  So I know you got to meet Bob, right?

Rick 00:37:08  Yes I did. That was the highlight of my life, quite frankly. It it was. I mean, he was my hero.

Rick 00:37:15  Kids my age.

Speaker 4 00:37:16  Me too. Me too.

Rick 00:37:17  Kids my age. They liked, you know, they like heroes. Football heroes and basketball heroes. Baseball heroes. But for me, my hero was Bob Monroe. And after I was out of, the Air Force, I went to the Monroe Institute. A beautiful place in the hills of Virginia. You have to stay there because there's literally nothing else around. Like a hiking trails. It's just a lovely place. And I took some courses there, and that's when I got a chance to meet Bob. We talked for about an hour and a half after a class. It was thrilling to me. He told me about his experiences. I told them about my time travels and my space travels, which which really, fascinated him. he called me the time traveler. It was amazing to have a chance to to meet him. He invited me to be part of his explorer program that he was doing. Unfortunately, I had just accepted a job 800 miles away, and I just.

Rick 00:38:12  I just couldn't do that. But it was one of the most significant experiences in my life. talking to what I consider the modern father of astral projection or out of the body experiences, I prefer the word astral projection because it has a little bit of magic about it. OBE sounds very clinical and I like the magic of astral projection, so that's why I use that term rather than the more clinical out of the body experiences. But that same thing.

Speaker 4 00:38:41  Was that in the early 90s.

Rick 00:38:44  No, it was right out of the guy when I got out of the Air Force was about 1986. Six.

Speaker 4 00:38:48  Okay, okay. 86. Yeah. Because I think Bob passed away around 93. 94. Right. Yeah. So did you connect with Bob in in after he left his body?

Rick 00:39:00  No. No. And I never thought to even do that. Quite frankly. I mean, if anything, I would have thought it was presumptuous. Because keep in mind, this is my hero. The fact that I got a chance to talk to him for an hour and a half, to me, was a huge honor.

Rick 00:39:15  The idea at that point in time of connecting with him would be like, you know, kind of inviting God out for a golf outing. It just wasn't in my lexicon. Never occurred to me.

Speaker 4 00:39:29  Okay. Okay. So you said you took some of the programs there. How? And for anyone who doesn't know the Monroe Institute, they have a whole series of programs, the gateway Experience. some of the ones, I think Life after life and so on. And, and they use these different levels like focus ten, focus 12, focus 15, 21 and so on. And it's a way of projecting your consciousness into different states of of awareness. Right? So you have so much experience in the outer body. How did you how did you fare with these, tapes and binaural beats that they used?

Rick 00:40:09  Well, I mean, I listened to the tapes many years ago, and they certainly were interesting, and they helped me sharpen some things and had me think nothing against Bob. I know it helps people, but it just gave me a headache.

Rick 00:40:24  so it didn't work for me. But that's the way astral projection is.

Speaker 4 00:40:30  I never had an out-of-body experience with the with the hemi sync. Ever. Never ever, ever. They always just happened at nighttime when I was sleeping. Or I would wake up.

Rick 00:40:40  Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that's, you know, the courses with him and and of course, the, you know, the book and all of that is, is what really helped me to, to get more experiences out of astral projection. And then when he came out with his other books, he was like the ultimate machine. And then for our journeys, those were very advanced. I mean, you could tell he was really getting his stride there. I don't use the locale things. I don't really connect with that. but I do use some of his words, like ident and, ident is how I go places once I've been there, at least. And, you know, an ident is more than just an address in a time.

Rick 00:41:26  It's also an energy level. you have to feel what it is to be there. Once you've got that ident, you have that feel for what it is to exist in that time and place, then you can go there again. And so that's how I've done that. other than that, I just use my will to go to a particular level or place or and then I just find myself there after a moment of blackness. It's the same thing now. I look up in the sky and I still love space traveling. I'll find a star at random and say, I want to go to that star. And there's a sensation of movement, a moment of blackness. And then I'm there checking out the solar system if they have any planets and if there's any life on them. So I just maybe I'm just kind of streamlining things a little bit. Once again, I think those little cows, that kind of stuff would be very helpful to newer people. but I just, I guess I've, I was so set in my ways already by the time that that stuff came out that I listened to it.

Rick 00:42:31  I, I was very appreciative of it and I think it could help people, but it just it wasn't something that I connected with.

Speaker 4 00:42:38  Yeah. So so Bob was big into acronyms, right. And he would have all of these little kind of shortened words. Yeah, Inspec ordered.

Rick 00:42:47  The military because we had all that stuff in the military, too. I don't know.

Speaker 4 00:42:52  Very much. So that's what it seemed like. It was very much like. Yeah. Roger. It is. Yeah. So and I mean, I remember reading the last book and, and having to always go back and look up the meaning of, of what it was. What did this little word mean? And if you didn't, you would really struggle to understand what they were talking about.

Rick 00:43:10  Oh, yeah. Yeah. He had a whole like he had a whole dictionary in the back of those books so that you could understand what he was talking about. I haven't adopted all the terms, but I like the I dent because I didn't have a better word for it, and it seemed to capture, in a quick and easy word, a concept that can be a little nebulous.

Rick 00:43:31  So I adopted that. It's it's certainly been helpful.

Speaker 4 00:43:35  So, Ricky, in terms of like, you write and the quality of your consciousness. Did you notice that you were changing as a as a being with all of these experience? You know, was your capacity to love increasing your own self-awareness, your ego getting less and less?

Rick 00:43:54  Well, my wife would tell you that my ego is still a little out of control, but I like to think that I have definitely, evolved a bit over over the years. Astral projection. first of all, it helps you to get over one of the worst fears of mankind. Death. you realize that that death is just an illusion. It's merely a door that everybody has to walk through at some point. And you don't dissolve. You don't disappear. You don't go into nothingness. You just become another type of energy. And then you go on and learn from from that. It's it's it's merely a doorway. It is not an end. that is the number one thing I think most people, and certainly myself, can appreciate, because the ego always struggles with that.

Rick 00:44:51  It can't conceive of being blacked out. if you if you even conceive of that fear comes up. but certainly astral projection puts a, puts a quash to that pretty quickly when you realize that you have a consciousness outside of that physical shell, it's no more you than a car is you. That car is merely a vehicle. It takes you from place to place here on the physical plane. And that's what your body is. It merely takes you from place to place on the, the physical plane allows you to interact and and to experience things through your senses. I know I also changed with, as I mentioned earlier, with my telepathic ability, it became stronger and stronger. I remember I would do ESP experiments when I was about 12. My sister was about 11. And one time I sent her upstairs with a tablet and a pen, and I told her I gave her no instruction other than draw the first thing that comes into your mind. And so I sent to her an image, a typical stick figure with a round head, and then, like a cross for a very simple stick figure.

Rick 00:46:09  She came downstairs with the exact same thing, only upside down. That to me, really confirmed what I suspected about my ability to project thoughts and then to receive them as well. My brother, whenever I wanted to see him or my mother needed him and he was awesome or plain. Back in those days, you didn't always know where your kid was. He asked a mother, where's your kid outside playing. That's the way it was. And? But I would call him telepathically and I'd at the be at the kitchen window calling him telepathically and always eventually he'd end up running up and he looked up at me. What do you want? And I tell him what was going on. So those types of things just became commonplace for me. I didn't think of anything much about it other than, oh, well, I guess that ability lies in all of us. All I'm doing is just, farming it a bit, you know, and just growing it a bit faster than other people. So, you know, it just it gave me a certain confidence.

Rick 00:47:15  Although I still had that whole hidden part of me, about astral projection. and it wasn't until I went to college where I saw a poster in the union and it said, you can leave your body, which obviously attracted me. And I went there and there was a group that I considered a bit cultish. But I met my girlfriend there, and she was also an advanced astral projector. And she had my last name too, and she came from the same area my family came from. So I had this little theory that, people of Celtic origin are a little bit better at astral projection than other people. And if you think about it, think about some of the authors like Monroe Muldoon, Bruce Frost. These are all Celtic type names. I think it's a lot like the Kenyan runners in the Olympics. Yes, we can all run unless we have some sort of physical problem, but we can't be like these Kenyan runners because they got these big lungs and these long legs, and so they're just a step above everyone else.

Rick 00:48:23  And so I that's just a little pet theory. I don't have any proof for it.

Speaker 4 00:48:27  Do you know where your origins came from, Rick.

Rick 00:48:29  Yeah. I'm from, you know, the British Isles and, and a little bit in France and a little bit in Germany. So.

Speaker 4 00:48:36  Okay. Fascinating. And and what you're referring to is called remote viewing. Right.

Rick 00:48:40  Well, remote viewing is another cousin of astral projection. I mean, I've read Mike monocle and, a matter of fact, it's right here on my desk. The ultimate time machine. there's a difference when you're lucid dreaming or your eyes are projecting, your body appears to be asleep. And if someone tries to talk to you, it'll just wake you up. In remote viewing, you are conscious just in a deeper state, deeper meditative state. And I think it's essentially you're sending a stock of consciousness, like 10%, let's say, out to a coordinate somewhere. And indeed, someone can sit next to you and say, okay, I want you to go to these coordinates, and they'll give them the coordinates, and then he'll go there with that stalk of consciousness, See what's going on, and then it comes back, and then you can tell them, this is what I saw, but you're not really like I mean, an astral projection, as you know, you are there.

Rick 00:49:40  Yeah. There is no part of you that's elsewhere. You have a sense there's a physical body back there, but you don't want to think about that, because if you do, you'll get pulled back. So I believe astral projection is the pinnacle of this type of consciousness. And lucid dreaming, remote viewing. They're their cousins, but they don't have the spiritual level.

Speaker 4 00:50:04  They're not as full on either, right? There's nothing more fun than feeling that vibrational pull and the. Yeah, you're out and you're flying about. the remote viewing, though, I, I've had a, you know, a few little experiences where, you know, somebody put an object in a box, and I did this one. I don't know if you're familiar with Tom Campbell. He was one of the.

Rick 00:50:25  Yeah.

Speaker 4 00:50:26  Of course. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so Tom Campbell, I followed Tom for years and one of his videos. I don't know, maybe 12 years ago, he put an item in a box and he put the box on the video and he said, now, you know, tell me what? What's in the box? Right.

Speaker 4 00:50:39  First thing that comes to your head. And, I, you know, I had my pen and I, I said, okay, I'm seeing an apple. Right? And then I'm like, okay, now I see a star, wrote a star, and now I'm seeing and. And he was like, it doesn't matter how silly it sounds, just write it down. And the last one was a car. And I was like, how can a car be in that little box? And, and and how can I be treating? You know, he said there was an item in there and I'm after seeing three things. So at the end of the video, he opens up the box and he takes out an apple corer. Right. For, you know, you push down on the top of an apple.

Rick 00:51:16  Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 00:51:17  What I was after seeing was the apple, the star, which is if you look at an apple corer, it's got a circle in the middle and it's got lines going out like this.

Speaker 4 00:51:25  And then Cora, I got her, you know? So it's like I was getting the information, but I just wasn't seeing it the way, you know, you would see an actual object. So I think, I think we get an awful lot of information, but a lot of the times, our own mind, we discredit what we get, right?

Rick 00:51:43  Yeah. Let me tell you a little story that is, reminds me of that. My brother, until he began to ask to project, was my greatest, doubter. and, so one time he asked me, let's I can would you do a test? I said, yeah, sure. I guess I'm going to put something on my table downstairs in my basement. So you ask the project and then tell me what you see. So I did that, and I came back and I said, oh, you've got a Russian samovar, on your table. which, of course, is is before the revolution, what richer people would keep tea telling and then they would just pour it.

Rick 00:52:25  They have tea all day long. He goes, I don't even know what that is. No, I just have a book there. So a couple of years went by and I went to visit him. We went down to the cellar because he said, let me show you this thing I got from this old man who's moving down to Miami because his wife died. So we go downstairs and there is that Russian samovar that I saw two years before. That's the thing about the astral. When you astral project, I think especially when you go into time a lot, it's easy to slip. And so I project it a couple of years into the future. And that's what I saw on the table. So it it's kind of a cousin of what you were talking about. But it also gets into some of the problems that you can encounter when you're actually projecting because we, you know, in the physical, we've got this very grounded, idea of reality. And once you go into the astral quite a bit and it starts to shake loose, and so a number of things can occur.

Rick 00:53:23  And like in your visions, you you saw that star in that apple. So it was kind of you were seeing a certain reality of that particular device, which is not uncharacteristic of astral projection. I think that's why the military intelligence agencies use remote viewing and not astral projection. Remote viewing gives you a pretty good look at what's going on in this current present reality, the physical reality. But astral projection, it's really easy to wander into other things. And, you know, when you're in military intelligence, you don't want to know what's going to be there two years from now. You want to know what's going to be there right now, and you need grounded reality.

Speaker 4 00:54:07  And, they probably have somebody beside them that's going to stay in that critical mind space, right? And ask them particular questions, and then they give them the information and they write it down. Whereas when you're going out yourself. That part can sometimes get a little bit cloudy. Right. And another thing I noticed was like, sometimes the room stuff might seem like it's on the opposite side of the room or, you know, items that you weren't weren't actually in your sitting room all of a sudden, are there.

Speaker 4 00:54:36  So it does kind of get a little bit cloudy sometimes.

Rick 00:54:39  Yeah. you know, when you astral project, usually you're in the lowest level of the astral, just a phase above the physical at that point. Yeah. And your room or other physical reality will look maybe a lot like your physical room, but not exact. And there could be furniture that's not there right now or a painting that that was there ten years in the past. so a lot of that you have to kind of take just and just go with it because it's going to happen because the physical reality is very much going unstuck even in the lower astral. So that's something that you really have to adjust to. It's just what happens when you start to astral project. I remember there was this soldier who wrote a journal in about his time as a Revolutionary War soldier when we were fighting. you guys, back in the war of the Revolution, and, he had an astral projection. He didn't know what it was, but he described one to a T, and he saw this tree on the hill.

Rick 00:55:49  And when he got back to his body, he woke up. There was no tree there. So he doubted the experience because there was no tree there. But of course, it could have been there in the past or could be there in the future. so, you know, it's very deceiving to people who aren't used to the malleability of the astral. it's, it doesn't necessarily hold to our concrete physical environment. If somebody thought, oh. I'd like to add a chair there. And I could see in my mind what that chair is going to look like. You might leave your body and see the chair there because somebody put in enough energy to put it there. But it doesn't mean you didn't project. It just means you saw a reality that was a little bit different or maybe a head.

Speaker 4 00:56:40  Okay, I have an interesting question. Did you ever get any places where you weren't able to project? so I've had a couple of experiences where I would try and go to a certain location and I would get this really kind of a dull.

Speaker 4 00:56:56  Like, no, you cannot go there. Has that happened to you?

Rick 00:57:01  yes it has. there are certain time jumps, for instance, that are blocked. In other words, like Alice in Wonderland. You can't get there from here. and so that's one of the things that I've experienced. I remember one time I was going to this military base and it was known for hiding UFO kind of stuff. Eventually I got in, but the first time I went there, I got caught in this electromagnetic strong Em field and it held me there. I couldn't get out until I was finally pulled back to my body eventually. and it was like ants crawling all over my astral body. And I'm not used to feeling any kind of discomfort or pain, but it was distinctively unpleasant. And my theory is, is that the people up top know about astral projection know about spies. I didn't have any evil intentions, but they didn't know that. so they had it protected by that strong E.M. field. Because I find the astral body, especially in the lower levels, reacts to very strong E.M. fields.

Rick 00:58:11  One time as a kid. there was one of these substations that had, you know, fences around it with warning high voltage. I got to close, and I was pulled in, and I was stuck to it. I couldn't get loose. Now, today, I would just travel into the future of the past where it wasn't there. But back then, I didn't know how to do that. And so I just felt ridiculous. So I was like, oh, this is great. this is a wasted experience. Now, I didn't get I didn't get frightened because once again, I knew I was going to be pulled back. But, that's one of the places that is unpleasant to go to, like, you know, like I said, in that military base, too, where there's very sensitive information. Let me tell you another place I couldn't go to when, George Bush, the younger became president his first day in the Oval Office, I wanted to project just to see what was going on.

Rick 00:59:04  Once again, I'm not a spy. I'm a loyal American. I was in the military as an officer, but I just, you know, I wanted to be nosy. It's just me. So I went there and I was stopped at the door by these two, what I called astro Secret Service agents. And I scanned them real briefly, and I, I saw that their bodies were beneath the white House and the some sort of chamber they had down there, and that there were scientists looking over them, watching their, their life signs, and that they were injecting something into them, which I assume was lengthening the projection time because, you know, 15, 20 minutes wouldn't be very useful. But if you use some sort of medication, perhaps then you could extend that period of time. It would be useful. They challenged me and ask me who I was when I was doing, and I just kind of ticked off at them. And then I took off and they didn't follow. But that was another place where I could not go, because it was guarded in the Astro.

Rick 01:00:06  I mean, I thought there was almost nowhere I could go, but that was one of the places.

Speaker 4 01:00:10  So the Cold War, right? Russia and America were remote viewing on one another. They were they were training their Secret service to go out a body and and spy on the other side and bring it back. And apparently they trained them in psychic defense and they could put shields up. I think it was in Bob Monroe's very first book where he talks about his little town. I think one of his, his, his kids was staying in this town and off he went to visit her like he would most evenings. And on his way into the town, this man in a suit stopped him and asked him where he was going. And he said, no, no, today you can't go in here. And Bob thought this was really strange. And the next morning he's sitting reading his newspaper, having his breakfast, and he reads that Kennedy had been staying in this little town where his daughter was staying, and the Secret Service or the CIA had stopped him somehow.

Speaker 4 01:01:04  Astral. Yeah. Another another example was, I think it was 2015, I was in Spain at a Tom Campbell retreat, and I got out of body that evening and I said, oh, I'm going to project into the actual room where we're having the conference. Couldn't get into the room. Whatever Tom had put around that room, it was like a force field. I couldn't get in. So there are places and then maybe people have have methods, protection methods to stop, you know, beings and entities getting into these spaces.

Rick 01:01:36  Well, if you want to talk about entities affecting things, let me tell you this little story because it's interesting. I was a, an Air Force officer, and, I was a missile here with nuclear missiles. And, we had a briefing, and that briefing was a top secret briefing. It's not. I mean, I don't think anybody's going to come after me now. It was 40 years ago. And in that briefing, they shared with us that there were these craft and that they would hover over our nuclear installations at the time, our missile locations.

Rick 01:02:10  And they would they would deactivate take offline, as we called it, the missiles, so that they couldn't be launched, and then they would disappear. And they were just telling us to be aware of it and who to report it to if it happened. I remember I asked a question. I was like, the Soviets doing this, and the command lieutenant colonel who's given the briefing said, no, we know it's not the Soviets. Well, I knew it wasn't the Chinese. I mean, at that point in time, there were nowhere near us at all technologically. But he didn't. He either didn't know that their origin or he wasn't sharing it, because it wasn't strictly on a need to know basis and didn't need to know what was whose craft it was. I just needed to be aware of this phenomena, which is the way the military works. It's it's very much partitioned off, and you only have the knowledge you actually need to do your job and no more. I found that very interesting because I'd been interested in UFOs my whole life, so I speculated to myself that it's probably some sort of an unknown race that is doing this for whatever reason.

Rick 01:03:24  It never happened, but that was quite interesting. And that was an outside type of influence. Whether they were using some sort of telepathic power or whether they were using, something, some instrument or other that we're unaware of. It's out there and it exists. And I think it's an interesting story to share.

Speaker 4 01:03:46  So have you. On your travels, have you come across any of these star nations like the Palladium or the octonions? Have they have they popped up at any stage? Sure.

Rick 01:03:56  I have dealt with a number of alien species. The Grays were the ones that I first encountered. I had memories that came to me, I think because of my astral projection abilities, that I was called into our back woods in the middle of the night, and I was walking out there and my bare feet, and I saw other kids from the neighborhood had gone out there, too. And there was a craft out there in the middle of the woods, and we all just went on board and they did some examinations, and I projected, whatever happened there, I projected and I noticed that in a number of reports for people who are quote unquote abducted, that they caused spontaneous projections and that occurred.

Rick 01:04:47  And I saw others sometimes, too, out of their bodies, although they were extremely frightened. I couldn't even talk with them. I was trying to calm them down because I had a feeling this hadn't been the first time this happened, so I knew I wasn't going to die or anything. I was trying to calm them, but they were so frightened. And those that was a memory that I that I had early on, and I carried that with me. And later on I then visited the planet of the graves, and I struck up a friendship you might want to call with, with one of them there at the time, he was at their at their planet's north pole. That was a little bit warmer. And they were growing some some hothouse plants there. They don't really eat meat. They were eating these. I don't know what you were going to call them. Let's call them, mushrooms. You know, that's what they fed on. And, and so that was that was the whole thing.

Rick 01:05:44  There's a series of those episodes. I have met the Pleiadians. I went to their ship once and it was quite amazing. The energy there just filled me with peace and serenity and love Of. And, you know, I had a bit of a conversation. they wanted to ask me about my astral projection, and they wanted to know, are a lot of other humans doing this, too? And I said, well, it's not a lot right now, but it's growing. There's more and more knowledge of it, and more and more people are doing that. And they were happy about that. They had the feeling that they wanted us to progress. I've also encountered the reptilians. It's less fun.

Speaker 4 01:06:25  talk to me a little bit about them, because it's something I hear a little bit about. I'm not so sure about them. I tend not to want to really engage with that sort of kind of fear. Yeah. For entertainment's sake. Yeah. Let's get let's get into it a little bit about the reptilians.

Speaker 4 01:06:40  Sure.

Rick 01:06:41  you know, I've had a number of episodes on them, one of which I went down to there. They got a base underground, and I met them there, and they weren't exactly hospitable, but I wasn't afraid of them because I was in my astral body. And when I'm in the lower astral, they can see you in the lower astral. And you know, it's it's hard because you know where I'm going from a human perspective, trying to interpret another species that's quite different from mine. Understand their motives. And then there's this instinctive mammalian, reptilian antagonism because they've hunted us over the years. Of course, now we've got our revenge. We've hunted them almost to extinction. But there's that instinctive fear that's there, going right back to our our ancestors, when we were just little things crawling around and hiding in the bushes and underground. So I understand that, and I make sure I put that as a footnote, because I all I can do is interpret things from my standpoint. And I spoke with them and asked them what they were doing.

Rick 01:07:51  Of course, they asked me the same. and I just said I was just visiting. Just wanted to say hello. That was a little. I joked a little bit. They didn't really get the jokes, didn't appreciate them. which happens quite a bit with my sense of humor. They told me that this was their planet, not mine, and that they were here first, and I didn't contradict them because they were pissed off already when I got there. So I wasn't looking to antagonize them unnecessarily because I still wanted to get a little bit of information. I mean, the images that I got from them was that their species was here long before humans, in that they left for a reason. I got a disaster, that they left the planet because of that, and that some of them were buried deep in some vaults somewhere, waiting when the planet would clear. But whatever they considered us, I got this really strong as newcomers and intruders. Quite frankly, they weren't too happy about that. recently I went to a reptilian planet, and there I encountered, a group of reptilians, including their their ruler.

Rick 01:09:12  They're very, hierarchical. I guess we are, too, but they definitely were. And they're on this planet that has a lot of jungles on it and, a lot of very hostile predators. And their philosophy, which I got pretty soundly, was you have to kill or be killed. there was no room for mercy or sympathy or empathy. They looked at that as well. Mammalian weakness. And of course, I disagreed, and I didn't convince them that otherwise. And perhaps in their world that was necessary. You know, when humans evolved at first. If you want to go back a couple of million years, we were hunted by all kinds of predators. Over the years, we managed to survive by some luck or other. The level of predators went down a bit until today. You know, we live in a world where we pretty much rule everything you had. You got to go to the middle of nowhere to see where predators are still killing humans. But, I mean, I get it if that's how they evolved and if they evolved on our planet, too.

Rick 01:10:28  Back in the old days, I'm sure it was a very tough place. So I try try to do my best to reserve my judgment on another species because I hadn't walked a mile on their shoes or feet or whatever it is they want to use. And certainly they are tough. Their bodies are built to last, and they could take a lot of damage that we humans would be destroyed by. So I kind of take them as they are. I don't seek them out, really. Other than I wanted to get information for an episode. because they're just not my cup of tea. But they're out there. I think they want their planet back.

Speaker 4 01:11:13  Okay. Okay. Okay, so let's get into your work. Right. You mentioned your episodes. Like what's going on on your YouTube channel. I noticed that you're interviewing, people who have passed on. Tell me. Tell me how you do this.

Rick 01:11:29  Well, it's quite simple usually. Yeah. I've interviewed people, passed on, I've interviewed demons.

Rick 01:11:37  I've interviewed quote unquote gods. they're all different entities of different levels and different, abilities and power. I simply read up on whatever it is I need to to get an ident, if you will, of what? I'm trying to get to.

Speaker 4 01:11:58  A web address. Right. So so you and knowing of that being or where you can get them and then you can make a connection.

Rick 01:12:05  Right, right. I mean, at this point in time, if I can just take a, if I can just look at a picture of someone, I can get a lot of information about them. And that certainly is useful even in old books, if they have old pictures of of the particular entity. If I can lock onto that, then I can essentially trace it back to where it is. And then I just, just a matter of using my will to go there. Now I fail from time to time. some of these cases I do, I you hear the interview, I do, but you don't know the a couple times I failed because I couldn't, for whatever reason, get there.

Speaker 4 01:12:45  So Rick, do you so you have to. So and just talk me through the process. Do you have to get into an out-of-body state to contact these, or are you somehow kind of remote viewing them? Are you are you?

Rick 01:12:56  No, I want to I want to contact them face to face. I don't try to seek them out from my physical body, because they might come to me, and I don't want them to come to me. I want to go to them. I've had problems in houses in the past. My poor daughter, who has also astral projected, has told me stories about a number of odd things that happened in the past and all the houses that she's been in where I was there too. So I tried to keep my work apart from my home life. You might say.

Speaker 4 01:13:31  That's good advice.

Rick 01:13:32  I go to them and as I said, I do my best to read up on it until I have a feeling, a good feeling that I can lock on to and then trace it to where I want to go.

Rick 01:13:45  It's just simply I leave my body and then I conjure up that image and that feeling and that knowledge altogether. And then I will myself to that point. And if I'm successful, I can find myself there occasionally. My guide has offered some help or has even made some arrangements for me a couple different times. I don't ask for a lot of help because I'm not used to doing that. I'm used to doing things my way, and my guide knows that. He knows I'm very much of an individualist and I don't. I only go there for help if I absolutely need it, because I can't allow my ego to put me in any kind of difficulty, so that if I know that I need some sort of assistance, he'll offer that, you know, like if I'm going to like if I visit, interview a demon, for instance, he'll lend me some protective energy, so that, you know, I feel a little bit more secure about meeting this extremely what we would call negative entity. Although from its standpoint we're the negative ones.

Speaker 4 01:14:51  Yeah okay. And is there any fear Rick, when you're when you're going into these meetings.

Rick 01:14:55  Of course I have some fear. I still am human, you know, and fear is deeply ingrained in us now. We we give fear a lot of guff. We we complain about it. We hate it. But it's what kept us alive as a species. If we weren't afraid, we'd have gone up to all those big cats and say, oh, pretty kitty, and petted in that in the end of it. So fear it can be constructive. It can help you avoid danger. It's only a problem when it consumes you. And I just keep it in a tiny, tiny corner. There's. I don't know if you've ever read the Dune series by Frank Herbert. there's been movies made of it, Dune and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 4 01:15:39  Yeah, yeah, I've heard. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rick 01:15:41  And the book. There was this passage that was, by the bene. The Bene Gesserit, who were like the female priests of that particular universe.

Rick 01:15:51  And they had this thing they call Litany Against Fear. And I memorized it because I liked it so much. And it basically goes like this I will not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will allow it to go over and through me. And when it is gone, I will turn my inner eye to see that path where the fear was. There is nothing. Only I remain. And I would do that over and over again. And I found that it helped me to keep the fear under control. But of course I had it. I'm not going to lie and say I did it.

Speaker 4 01:16:30  Okay. Okay. So? So give me an example of one of these interviews. Where do you go? How do what's your interface with that being and what's their willingness to be interviewed by, quote unquote, this, this human right that's turning up in the in the astral.

Rick 01:16:47  Well, I extend an invitation. And by this time, as interesting as it is, my name's kind of gotten around a little bit.

Rick 01:16:55  And in some quarters that I'm not happy about my name getting around. But I know a lot of people like talking with the Pleiadians and those kind of folks. And, and I think that's certainly a very great, a very lovely experience. And you can gain a lot from that. But I also want to understand the other viewpoint and from the other viewpoint, like these demons, the only way to get that information is to actually go to their plane and then send out a signal asking for someone to come and speak with me. And in that case, it came pretty quickly. now, you know, when you're dealing with those types of entities, I'm sure it probably thought that maybe it had an easy prey too. And there was that, and it tried to to trick me up. They have varying degrees of intelligence. Some are highly intelligent. They put me way to shame. And then there's others who are very simplistic. this particular one I consider somewhere in the middle of that spectrum, I wanted to get the information from his viewpoint, you know, because you read most of the books we have here on Earth.

Rick 01:18:04  It's all from one viewpoint. And, you know, if you're intelligent, you know, there's always two sides to every article. I mean, I've read books from from the military, from the US military standpoint about the Vietnam War. And I've read books from the other side. And it's interesting. I mean, you really need to see both sides to get a complete picture. So that's why I do what I do. Some folks ask me, why are you doing that? Why are you talking to them? It's because I want to get that whole picture. And, you know, from their standpoint, they've been ill used and they've been discriminated against, and they consider what we would call God, for instance, as some sort of an enemy. And from their standpoint, you know, they deserve to have more than they've been given and they're quite upset about it. they also see us as an insult to them. They're quite upset with us, even though we didn't do anything per se. It's just the fact that we exist.

Rick 01:19:04  I find that pretty much upset about, And they will be tricky. Before I interviewed any of those things, I've did extensive research on demonology. I was actually a help at an exorcism when I was in high school, because I wanted to see that in action. It wasn't quite as dramatic as movies like The Exorcist show it, but there was some odd things that went on. For instance, and like, for instance, the room. When we went there, it was the summertime and it was hot. here in this area where I was at the time in Philadelphia, it was about 30°C for metric folks, about 85 or so, in Fahrenheit, in freedom units, as they call it. and so it was and they didn't have an air conditioning. They were a poor Latino family. They had just moved here. And so we went up to this room, and the air was stultifying and so heavy and so hot. But as the exorcism went on and my job was to hold on to the, the left leg, make sure that stayed down.

Rick 01:20:14  That was my whole task. And they gave us a whole briefing ahead of time about how we should act. You know, don't make eye contact. Don't talk. If it if it talks to you, just ignore it. Don't talk back. And the whole thing never interrupt the priest, yada yada. They did the whole thing. And the room as the exorcism went on. Got colder and colder and colder to a point where I could see my breath. That's how cold it got in there. It was. And right towards the end of the exorcism, when he was getting ready to expel the demon, the only thing that was on the wall, the only thing was a cross. And that fell to the floor just out of nowhere. And then it was over. because that's some of the unusual experiences.

Speaker 4 01:21:00  It sounds like it's the stuff of movies. Rick.

Rick 01:21:04  Well, you know, it wasn't quite as as interesting as some other movies, you know? But, I mean, it was just a young boy, and he just had his eyes closed, and he looked pained most of the time.

Rick 01:21:16  So there wasn't I mean, the cold. Yes. The cross falling. Yes. But there wasn't anything else. But you could feel the heaviness of the room depart. As soon as that cross fell and the entity was expelled, it became lighter, although it also became really hotter too. At the same time. I mean, it went it just went from 0 to 100. Wow. That.

Speaker 4 01:21:40  Wow. So okay, so the interviews, how do you, retain the information, come back and then compile that into one of your video series?

Rick 01:21:52  Well, we have to understand that the human brain is extremely an amazing computer. We don't use it anywhere near to its, ability level. let me give you an example. Before we had these wonderful devices called smartphones, you had to remember, gasp. You had to remember phone numbers.

Speaker 4 01:22:14  Phone numbers.

Rick 01:22:15  You remember 20 or 30 of them because I knew I needed them. Now I barely know my wife's phone number because I know I could just tell this machine to go ahead and call her.

Rick 01:22:25  And it happens. So I have the same brain. It's just I've allowed it to slack off a little bit. What helped me was I was in the speech team in college, and we had to write and memorize three 15 minute speeches that we would get no note cards. So I learned that if you construct a speech or an interview for that matter, in a logical way, where one point or one question leads to the next, leads to the next, leads to the next. Then essentially you are borrowing how our brain remembers things before mankind. Learn how to write. What do we have? We had stories and stories where where we pass along information and warnings and and all kinds of different things. And the reason we retain it is because it was in story format. It was a narrative. One point led to the next. You know, I was walking through the woods. I then saw the witch's cottage. I went inside the cottage. She was there making a stew. And so you put it into a whole story.

Rick 01:23:33  When I asked her project, I made my astral projection into a story too. Into a narrative. So that all I have to do is just remember how it starts and then follow the logical path. And that's all I do. As soon as I get back to my body, I'll wake up, and as soon as my feet hit the floor, I give giving myself post-hypnotic suggestions that all of this will come back to me clearly, and I'll immediately take all my detailed notes. And if I want, if I don't want to sleep more, I'll actually type the whole thing out while it's still fresh in my mind. I do back in the old days, I didn't do that, and I just tried to relate it a week later or so verbally. And what I found is I would forget little bits of things or important points. And then I would also do a lot of, and that's something that that you do, you don't even notice it. And I wanted to get rid of that, and I wanted to tighten it up and make sure I didn't lose anything.

Rick 01:24:35  So I've just trained my brain to remember these things. And I create a little story narrative in the case of interviews. One question leads to the next, leads to the next. Now you also have to leave some room there for spontaneous interviewing. Spontaneous questions. If an entity brings up something that is highly interesting that you didn't plan for, well, you got to go for that. You got to make that part of the story.

Speaker 4 01:25:02  That's like my job, right?

Rick 01:25:03  Exactly, exactly. So it's, it's it's not as hard as people tend to think it is. quite frankly, like I said, I used to have to memorize three, 15 minute speeches. So this is not a great stretch for me. and like I said, I write it down immediately. I get back to my body so that it's fresh air.

Speaker 4 01:25:27  Okay. So so for the viewers and listeners, let's just quickly, recap on on this. Right. You're you're going out a body and you're finding maybe figures like, past figures like maybe Jesus or Genghis Khan, and you're somehow connecting with them, and then you're you're conducting an interview in the non-physical, coming back, jotting it all down, and then putting this into a video series or a vlog.

Speaker 4 01:25:57  Right. Putting it up on your YouTube channel. do you want to tell me some of the figures that you've interviewed?

Rick 01:26:03  Well, there's quite a number. And I thought it was very interesting. You went from Jesus to Genghis Khan. That's quite a gap right there. Genghis Khan killed off about a fourth of humanity or something.

Speaker 4 01:26:16  But have you interviewed him?

Rick 01:26:18  No, I have not.

Speaker 4 01:26:19  Maybe he's one for the books. Vic.

Rick 01:26:21  Well, it's been suggested I have this long list that I keep with people who give me suggestions, and I wish I could do them all instantly. But there's a long list now, and so I try to interview the ones who I think will be the most fascinating to people. you know, I've interviewed, the elements Earth, air, wind and fire, for instance. And, you know, you get their level of consciousness, which is very alien to us. They don't think of things the way we do. They, they, for instance, the wind elemental, it just finds pleasure in the fast winds and it just whirls around.

Rick 01:27:03  It's very simple from our standpoint. If you try to give it IQ, it wouldn't score very high. But it does what it does. And it's it is the element of the wind. And so that's what it performs. I've dealt with gods and goddesses too. Two. That's a good term. As good as.

Speaker 4 01:27:20  Any. Any. Any you'd like to name?

Rick 01:27:23  Katie, who, has was a Greek goddess. And she also told me that she had been called other things like Inanna, Ishtar, ISIS, that that she had been called by a number of different things. It seems that these gods or goddesses become what we make of them. They very much influences how they manifest, which I think says more about us than it says about them. Let's see. I mean, I've so many, recently I talked with the oversoul of cats, and that was extremely interesting. to get things from a cat's perspective. is it once again, a very alien perspective, but a lot of what it told me, resonated with people who are cat owners.

Rick 01:28:11  I've never I only ever had a cat for, like, a day or two, because my father then got rid of it, but I was a dog person. We had a dog for 20 years, so it was interesting hearing about its perspective on things and you know it. I asked, I was asked for some advice at the end, usually, for, you know, for the new year or what have you. And it said that, you should not more and get rid of those things that don't serve you just like a cat knocking something out of its way. it's, there's very there's no super ego if you want to use that old fashioned term with cats. They are what they are, and they're very happy with what they are, and they don't feel the need to dramatically address themselves or change themselves for humans. they've agreed to essentially a contract with humans, a loose contract whereby they will run our houses for us. And we are permitted to feed them and to pet them when they feel like it and to, you know, take care of them.

Rick 01:29:24  And it's quite a nice arrangement for both species. Dogs are much friendlier and much more interested in in in pleasing humans and cats. No they're not. They they'll they'll come close to you and maybe cuddle with you if they feel like it. But if you try to impose and grab them, they can be quite disagreeable because they consider themselves another entity. Every bit is equal, if not better than humans. It's just interesting seeing it from their perspective once again. I love getting different perspectives on things. I remember one interview I did where I went to a I was just exploring and I arrived on this planet. That was nothing but one big AI machine intelligence. There was there was no, there was no intelligent, biological lifeforms still in existence. All I got from them was that they, they no longer function and that it runs the planet. And it was very curious about me. It wanted to know how I traveled there and where I was from. I told them a little bit about how I traveled there.

Rick 01:30:44  I didn't tell them where I was from because I don't want to make the human race go extinct. Possibly. You know, I'm still kind of attached to it, but it it learned so fast and just trying. I mean, I was able to scan, I was able to scan it and which I wouldn't be able to do typically with a machine. But there was this intelligence that it was alien, very alien, but I was able to understand it as far as its communication to me. It, it sent out probes to learn about its environment. It had never considered faster than light travel. It was just exploring its own, its own solar system, which it considered important because it didn't want big rocks, for instance, hitting it and wiping it out or damaging it. But I kind of opened up its eyes, and I hope, I hope it wasn't bad. I opened up his eyes to the fact that, yeah, I've traveled here and I've got this thing we call a soul. And and I came here and I just wanted to talk to you, and I didn't.

Rick 01:31:56  Asked me an interesting question. Do I have a soul? I said.

Speaker 4 01:32:00  Did it have a soul?

Rick 01:32:01  Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 01:32:02  Okay.

Rick 01:32:02  Okay.

Speaker 4 01:32:03  Okay. Interesting.

Rick 01:32:04  They said to me, do I have a soul? Because it was trying to understand the concept and I wasn't doing a great job of explaining it, but Quite frankly. And I answered, I don't know. I don't know that you have one or that you don't have one. Certainly you're intelligent and you're aware. You're self-aware. You know, by asking the question, do I have a soul that exhibits a certain level of awareness, self-awareness? And I just answered, I don't know. I think it was asking because it wanted to explore this mode of travel, too. So it's an interesting question. I imagine one day we'll have some AI intelligence asking us, do I have a soul? And I and I hope there's people who are intelligent than I am who can answer that question, because we don't be going to be careful of doing what we always do, which is make a slave out of something that serves us.

Rick 01:33:05  And and then we end up with problems because of that, because we try to enslave an intelligent organism. Eventually it rebels. that's just the way it works. So I hope you find the, the wisdom to treat it properly. Certainly. I showed that I planet my respect, as a living entity, even though I couldn't answer their their prime question. Those are some of the things that I've done. You know, there's it's all open to you. Someone asked me, you've interviewed people in the 20th from the 20th century, and you've interviewed Cleopatra and Mark Antony. How is that possible? Well, that's when I explained to them the time, space, illusion that that in the astral, if you've got the will and the knowledge, you can meet all those different personalities because they all exist in an eternal now. and that as long as you realize that you can actually communicate with them and get the information from a perspective that they had not long after they passed from the physical world, which is what we want.

Rick 01:34:18  we want to hear from Cleopatra about her experiences. you know, before she gained some, perhaps in the future, metabolic, you know, intelligence and, and and, being able to see things from a bigger standpoint. That's nice. And there's plenty of channeled information like that, but you want to hear from the personality as they were when they passed over. That's what's the most interesting, you know, for me. I, I want to I want to understand all of the different viewpoints from all of these different entities and, and, and how they're different from my viewpoints. because it's so easy, especially here in the US, to be trapped into a single mindset because unlike Europe, you could travel for a week here in the US, just go in a one direction and you're still in the US the whole time. Whereas in Europe, you know, in a few hours you could be in a whole other country and then a few more hours in another whole country. And they all have they have different languages, different viewpoints on the world.

Rick 01:35:26  So it's easier, I think, for Europeans to have a more cosmopolitan viewpoint. Whereas here in the US we tend to have one viewpoint, with some, you know, minor differences. That's how we see the world with those blinders on. So I want to speak to all different types of entities to get their view on existence and reality and, and how they see things, because I think that's how you become a greater being yourself by having all these different viewpoints and understanding that, you know, one viewpoint is never the 100% correct one.

Speaker 4 01:36:08  Well, I have to say the me doing the interviews, right. I get to sit here week after week listening to amazing people with totally different perspectives. You know, one week I'm doing Out of body next week. And, you know, energy healers, people who, who, who, have come from different star realities or, you know, star seeds, all this kind of thing. I get I get to hear all of these amazing stories and, and different perspectives.

Speaker 4 01:36:36  So I guess it's very similar for you what you're doing, only you're doing it in the, in the non-physical and then bringing it to, to people. Right. So, so so let's just let those listeners now, if they want to hear these interviews, they can go on to your, your YouTube, which is the Astral Club. Astro club.

Rick 01:36:56  Yeah. Just type in Astro Club into YouTube and it'll come right up. And if you go to the playlist, you know you'll see all those. And if you're interested in aliens or interviews, for instance, as well as some other ones, you can then click on those playlists. And like I said, we have over 400 now. So there's quite a bit of information there. I had some people during Covid who were shut up, said, I just listened in one long listen to all of your episodes, and it took days and I was I felt bad for that person. I said, My God, how did how do you how are you still sane after doing all that?

Speaker 4 01:37:31  Well, Rick, I have to say the first one I saw today was Murnane, right? I was like, we're not okay, I want to hear that one.

Speaker 4 01:37:38  Right. That was the entity that used to have Bob Munro. So that that was fascinating for me here and that,

Rick 01:37:45  That was kind of a surprise for me because I just wanted to interview, Bob and, and in that he mentioned he remembered me. I was afraid he wouldn't remember me, but he remembered me, remembered me as the the time traveler. So that was nice. And the marathon thing was just something that that happened afterwards. He just kind of popped up at the end of my interview. I was like, okay, let's let's talk to him. You know, he had an interesting perspective. So that was great. I had a chance to do that.

Speaker 4 01:38:15  And, in terms of teaching people the techniques to do this for themselves. Is that something you do as well? Rick.

Rick 01:38:21  Oh, yes. I have numerous videos about how to ask the project and what you're going to see there and how you should, you know, handle yourself in the astral how to avoid certain mistakes, places you don't want to go, like active cemeteries, because there's a lot of sad energy there, and it lowers your vibrational rate.

Rick 01:38:44  I was knocked out of the sky once because I was flying at treetop level over a recent cemetery. You know, the ones that are a couple hundred years old. It's okay there, but you don't want to go there. And of course, I mentioned electric substations and Battlefields. You got to be careful flying over battlefields. And when I was in Europe recently, I was flying over. Flying over the the Normandy beaches. And that still has that energy there. And it's, it's it's very sad because, you know, you're not dealing with old people who've passed. You're dealing with young people who died in the prime of their lives. And it's there's such tragedy there. And most of them, the vast majority have moved on. But there's still some folks there. And I tried to help them, but they weren't paying attention to me. And you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. so it, you know, but those are some of the, you know, those are some of the things that I talk about.

Rick 01:39:42  I talk about the shadow man and how to handle that. I can't tell you how many times I've had people talk to me and they say, I don't ask to project anymore because I had the shadow man, and he scared me. I said, well, this is how you handle it. Because when I finally figure out how to handle I was a kid and all I did was give them the old Italian salute. and then I took off, and I never saw him again. Because if you have a lot of insecticide on, mosquitoes can't bite you. If they invite you, they're gonna go somewhere else. so you know that alone, that knowledge alone helps them to know what to expect. And if you know what to expect, you can handle the fear. Where a lot of the fear comes from is something unknown. And that's where a lot of the fear is, is gathered up. But if you know what to expect, then you can handle it and then you can get rid of it very easily.

Rick 01:40:39  So education is the process. And you know, I've done so many videos about those different things. Now, I've kind of branched out a little bit because you can only do so many videos on how to get out of your body and, and how to handle yourself and how to fly and What speeds you move it based on different, you know, energy levels. So eventually you've got to get away from that, or else you're going to have 400 very boring episodes after a while. And also, I have extended myself. You know, I don't want to bore myself either. So and, you know, it seems like a lot of people find my experiences interesting. And as long as they do, then I'll continue to do that.

Speaker 4 01:41:21  What one of your viewers reached out to me and asked, would I would I interview you? Yeah. So yeah, people are obviously fine and great interest and great information to your videos. What about a book? Any books? Rick.

Rick 01:41:35  I've had people repeatedly ask me for that.

Rick 01:41:38  I've got some ideas. I just have to settle myself down and and actually, type it out. it'll probably be something about my time travels, because I've noticed that there's not a lot of good books about that, and I don't want to just redo what others.

Speaker 4 01:41:57  Read about it.

Rick 01:41:58  Yeah, yeah. And, you know, we don't need another basic book on how to ask the project. There's plenty of those. So I think that's what I would do. I would concentrate on those because there's quite a lot of interesting things that that happened in my future travels.

Speaker 4 01:42:13  Yeah. And I mean, your YouTube channel has had over a million views. So yeah, there's people definitely interested waking up and, you know, realizing that there is something greater than the reality they perceive through their senses.

Rick 01:42:28  I'm very happy. I, you know, some some people say, that you're, you know, your channel is underrated and maybe it is, but I don't really care about quantity. They care about quality.

Rick 01:42:39  And the group of people that have been attracted to Astro Club has been extraordinary. I have talked to and had comments from and I give individual lessons. Amazing people, talented people that I never would have had a chance to meet otherwise. I like that because on some channels are a lot more popular. You look at the comments section and it's just a bunch of knuckleheads saying stupid things, and I don't have any interest in that. You know, I remember once I was watching this, hidden video, because I needed to pick myself up a little bit. It was really, really cute kittens that happened to be orange. And somebody started a political commentary. Oh, about Trump. And then there was this huge level of comments all about Trump on a kitten video. How ridiculous is that? Who's whose mind are you going to change in a kitten video? It's ridiculous. I don't want that. And I stay away from politics on my channel because there's plenty of those channels out there. If you want to argue politics, there's plenty of them.

Rick 01:43:49  that's not what I'm about. And I think I think my content has attracted the right kind of people. And the people who aren't the right kind of people. They probably like, I don't like this. They go somewhere else, and that's fine. I have no problem with that. so for me, it's just the quality of people that have come on to the club.

Speaker 4 01:44:08  Well, Rick, you've been an amazing guest today. It's been eye opening listening to you talk about all your experiences. so people, they want to get in contact with you. your YouTube is your main place, right? Where everything's presented. So Astro Club, I'm going to link down below. Anywhere else you've got a patron as well, if people want to support your work.

Rick 01:44:29  Yeah, I do have Patreon. And if you go on any one of my videos, go into the description and there's a link there to Patreon. And you know, if you want to, you can join.

Speaker 4 01:44:39  Wonderful anywhere else, anything else? Social media, Facebook, anything like that, or.

Rick 01:44:44  I don't like Facebook. Personally, I consider it a waste of time. Tick tock is an insult to anybody's intelligence. I have no use.

Speaker 4 01:44:55  I don't have a tick tock either.

Rick 01:44:58  So it's it's YouTube. I don't feel the need to be on every darn thing.

Speaker 4 01:45:02  It's a good platform, I think, for this kind of stuff. Right. Long form content and yes, I want to. Yeah. It's not just entertainment. You're trying to get a message out there to people. Exactly. Rick, any last message that you'd like to leave with the with the viewers and listeners?

Rick 01:45:17  Well, I just want everyone to realize that they can ask the project to, you have to get the knowledge that you need, and you have to have the willingness and the will to actively work towards achieving national projection. But you can do it. And when you do achieve that, you will find a whole new reality opening up to you. And I guarantee you will not regret it.

Speaker 4 01:45:42  Wow, what a what a great way to end the interview.

Speaker 4 01:45:45  Rick, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Listeners.

Rick 01:45:48  Sounds good.

Speaker 6 01:45:49  Take care. Bye bye bye. Bye bye. Bye bye.

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