Adventure Travel Podcast - Big World Made Small
Welcome to the Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Podcast, where we go far beyond the beaches, resort hotels, and cruises to explore the really cool places, people, and activities that adventurous travelers crave. If your idea of a great vacation is sitting on a beach at an all-inclusive resort, you’re in the wrong place. However, if you’re like me, and a beach resort vacation sounds like torture, stick around. You’ve found your tribe.
My name is Jason Elkins, and as an adventure travel marketing consultant and tour operator myself, I am on a mission to impact the lives of adventure travelers, the tour operators they hire, and the communities that host them, creating deeply meaningful experiences that make this big world feel just a bit smaller.
Are you ready to discover your next great adventure, whether that looks something like climbing Mt Kilimanjaro in Africa, SCUBA diving in the South Pacific, or hot air ballooning in Turkey? Then you’ll be happy to know that each episode of the Big World Made Small Podcast features a fascinating interview with an adventure travel expert that has agreed to share, with us, their own personal stories, favorite adventure destinations, and even some incredibly helpful tips and tricks they’ve learned while in the field. I trust that by the end of each episode you’ll feel like booking a ticket to enjoy the sights, sounds, smells, and tastes of these amazing places, and getting to know the incredible people that live there.
I’ll be your guide as we explore this amazing planet and its people on the Big World Made Small podcast. I am a former US Army paratrooper, third generation commercial hot air balloon pilot, paramotor pilot, advanced open water SCUBA diver, and ex-Montana fly fishing guide and lodge manager. I have managed boutique adventure tour operation businesses in the Rocky Mountains of Montana, off-shore in Belize, the Adirondacks in New York, and the desert of Arizona. I also spent nearly a decade with Orvis International Travel, leading a talented team of tour operation experts, putting together and hosting amazing fly fishing and adventure travel excursions around the world. I have tapped into my experience and network of travel pros to put together a weekly series of exclusive expert interviews that I am excited to share with you.
For the last couple of years I have lived a fully nomadic lifestyle, feeding my passion for exploration, creating amazing adventures, and meeting some of the most fascinating people along the way. I record every episode while traveling, so in a sense you’ll be joining me on my journey. Let’s discover some great adventures together and make this big world feel just a bit smaller.
And, don’t forget to take a quick trip over to our website at bigworldmadesmall.com and join our adventure travel community, where you’ll benefit from new episode announcements, exclusive adventure travel opportunities, and special access to the experts you’ve met on the show. You can also follow us on social media, using the links in the show notes below. And, if you’re getting value out of the show please help us grow by sharing it with your friends, family, and anyone else you know that wants to get far beyond the beaches, resort hotels, and cruise ships, the next time they travel.
I’ll publish another episode soon. Until then, keep exploring. It’s the best way to make a big world feel just a bit smaller.
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Adventure Travel Podcast - Big World Made Small
Adventure Travel with Lisa Pagotto - Crooked Compass
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Guest Bio
Lisa Pagotto is the founder and CEO of Crooked Compass, a pioneering adventure travel company redefining how people engage with the world. With a deep commitment to cultural integrity and immersive experiences, Lisa has carved out a space for meaningful, off-the-beaten-path journeys that challenge traditional tourism models. Her leadership empowers travelers to connect authentically with remote and emerging destinations — far beyond the ordinary itinerary.
Lisa is also a captivating speaker known for her raw honesty and practical wisdom. Drawing from her entrepreneurial path, she encourages audiences to embrace uncertainty, trust their instincts, and lead with resilience rather than perfection. Her storytelling inspires people to transform setbacks into opportunities and to rethink what success truly looks like. Whether on stage or in the field, Lisa champions bold thinking and values-driven exploration as tools for personal and collective growth.
Show Summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Lisa about her journey building Crooked Compass into a leader in experiential travel. They dive into how the company curates unconventional itineraries, often in lesser-known or emerging regions, offering travelers both challenge and connection in equal measure.
Lisa shares how safety remains a top priority in these remote adventures, and how traveler psychology — especially around risk and group dynamics — plays a crucial role in the experience. She also reflects on how her early travel memories shaped her vision for Crooked Compass, and what she’s learned along the way as a founder navigating the ever-evolving world of entrepreneurship. The conversation highlights the power of trusting yourself, staying flexible, and pushing past the expected to create something truly original.
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