S4:E8 - Angelic Energy, Savage Bars | Nani Layilaa on Vinally High

This week on Vinally High, Drew Beats and BJ Buds are joined by Charlotte-by-way-of-Long-Island rapper, singer, and songwriter Nani for a conversation that moves just as seamlessly as her flow.

Fresh off a soul-reset trip to Cancún, Nani steps into the studio in a mood of gratitude and clarity, ready to unpack her journey—from winning a fourth-grade poetry contest to navigating early studio sessions in New York, to finding her signature “baby voice” sound right here in North Carolina. She opens up about homelessness, creative pivots, producer chemistry, and the vulnerability it takes to refine your artistry without losing your edge.

The crew spins Ill Na Na by Foxy Brown, diving into the era when female MCs blended raw lyricism with unapologetic sexuality—and why ’90s New York hip-hop still hits different. From deep conversations about artistry and influence (including the undeniable industry impact of Sean Combs) to hilarious AI-generated album cover experiments, this episode balances real talk with classic Vinally High chaos.

Nani breaks down:

• How poetry evolved into rap battles and studio sessions
• The moment she realized she could master different “pockets” and flows
• The origin of her soft-but-deadly vocal tone
• Why putting her catalog on shuffle is the best way to experience it
• The cultural shift from New York to Charlotte (including a passionate rant about Southern driving habits)

Between vinyl spins, sponsor love, and elevated vibes, the conversation floats from hip-hop history to personal growth to staying authentic in an industry that constantly demands reinvention.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

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Welcome to Vinally High, the podcast that celebrates two of life's greatest pleasures. Vinyl records and CBD products. We'll take you on a journey through our vast vinyl collection, exploring the significance of music in our lives, while also enjoying the therapeutic benefits of CBD. Each episode spin some of our favorite records, which are from plastic, rock, the candy, and everything in between. The violent high isn't just about music, but also development to the world of CBD, discussing its many benefits and how it can enhance our listening experience. Relax enjoying it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

All right, welcome everybody to another episode of the Vinally High podcast. You already know I'm your host, Drew Beats, and of course, as always sitting across from me, is the more than usual today, even sexier Mr. BJ Buds.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

I'm feeling esteemed today. I feel I feel very important. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

I mean, between the new jacket and the way you're rocking that hat with your hair, you're sexier than I could ever imagine.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Listen, brother, it's hard, but somebody got to do it, man. Somebody's got to do it.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

On that note, we are joined tonight by another phenomenal guest that honestly I have been looking forward to this entire season since we booked you. So we're gonna get right into it. Again, we got another double LP tonight, so for the sake of time, we're gonna keep things rolling. But our guest tonight is a rapper, singer, and songwriter from Long Island, based currently in Charlotte, North Carolina. From poetry, I mean I've I gotta pull this up because I can't read my blonde eyes. From poetry to sultry melodies to hard bars, she is constantly elevating and breaking rules on what it means to be a femc. Let's go. Welcome everybody to the vinyl high studios, Nani. How are how are you being today?

SPEAKER_06 2:51

I'm actually in like a mood of gratitude. Honestly, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

Don't say because of us.

SPEAKER_08 2:58

It's a part of me.

SPEAKER_06 3:00

It's a big part of me. I'm being completely honest and transparent. Like we had just discussed before this came from Cancun. Vitamin D, just walking around the town, didn't do any type of resort, just roughening. And like it it was it was beautiful. Came back here and was just like, I need to flip my entire life to be able to do this all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:25

So did you guys rent like an Airbnb or something?

SPEAKER_06 3:29

Yeah, we did an Airbnb. The Airbnb was gorgeous. And I looked it up after I left there. I looked it up. I was curious because I I own a house and not really a fan of the mortgage, but there are like four bedroom apartments with all the amenities, pool, playground for the kids, like eight to nine hundred nine one thousand dollars less than what I'm paying right now. Crazy to live in a farm town.

SPEAKER_08 4:01

Yeah, like they're partying over here.

SPEAKER_06 4:05

I I was sitting here eating a torta, and there were people just rollerblading and skating past me down the street. And I'm just like, this yeah, this is where I need to be. Right. It's so much life. They just had dogs and cats running around. Yeah. Little little cats greeting you at the door.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

It's it's crazy when you start looking into it because we've done the same from time to time, and just in case we decide we want to move to another country, like how inexpensive other countries really are, especially once you already have an American dollar behind you. Um just the cost of living is so low, and you feel like you get so much more.

SPEAKER_06 4:44

You do, and it's more fulfilling.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Yeah, and everybody's active. You're in fresh air, you're constantly getting, you're going when you say you're gonna go to the market, you know, you're going to like an outside kind of farmer's bargain, not the grocery store. And you were talking about the food.

SPEAKER_06 5:00

The food was crazy. Like I couldn't, I went to Metro Diner and nothing against Metro Diner. Went to Metro Diner, got some chicken and waffles, almost threw up.

unknown 5:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:12

Coming back here. I was like, that's insane. Tried to eat again the next day, couldn't eat. My job is one of them bougie jobs that has like$44,000 coffee machines. Couldn't drink coffee, couldn't have any of the food my cafeteria served. So I just fasted for like the whole week, coming back. And I I ate like granola bars and I just couldn't stomach it.

SPEAKER_08 5:35

Wow. Yikes. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

One of my favorite quotes is someone who doesn't travel is like reading uh only one page out of an entire book. And then once you travel, you start flipping those pages, you start seeing things. I'm very well known for saying the first time I went to Puerto Rico, I said, Oh my god, this place is amazing. Literally got a rainforest here. The food, like I was saying, is just so different. Even even the fast food, even the fast food food was completely different. It was better than what we have here. They were like, Yeah, because we we use the meat from the cows that we have here. And I'm like, oh gosh, you know, instead of having like sodas and stuff, they were serving like fresh squeezed juices with the whopper, the the tomatoes were I know it sounds crazy, but like every part of the sandwich was just so much better. And then you felt actually better once you finished eating it. But then when you get to like the the the regular food that they serve that they make in the city, it was just fun. I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 6:39

Guys had a tuna steak at this one place. I don't know the name of it. We just walked in because it smelled.

SPEAKER_03 6:45

You were going through it.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Which is exactly which is exactly how you should pick your restaurants when you're traveling.

SPEAKER_06 6:51

We were supposed to be going to the bus. Listen, I'm talking about I would need to come out. She's like, okay, serving us bread. The bread had like this taste of coconut on the back end. It was I almost cried. The tooth thing he had, it looked like an actual thing, but it was fresh, and it was so fresh, and it was so freaking good. I had cascadillas for the first time. Oh, yeah, I I'll cry, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

That that's the real difference to me when you go to places like that where they can easily source seafood that fresh because you're you're near or on the water, like it is such a difference.

SPEAKER_04 7:32

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

But we are not the seafood podcast, so what we're gonna do now happens all the time. We do it ourselves, and that's part of the reason I love this show and why we keep our scripting to a non-existent script. Yes, um, but one of the things we do do consistently is spin records, and we're gonna get this album going. So, again, we can have time to make sure we get through all of it because it is one of my favorite albums, it is one of my favorite artists, it is one of my favorite future wifes. And yes, I have permission to say that.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

I was like, please tell me he has permission.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

We're gonna be listening to Foxy Brown's Il Na album tonight, which is a repr actually, was it a first time or a reissue? I bought it at Record Store Day a couple years ago um because I needed to have it. I don't have any Foxy Brown because her older records are really hard to find, and when you do, they're not cheap. Um, because it came out at the time when vinyl just wasn't being pressed as much. So I grabbed this one at the first chance I had. I am not sure how I feel about everyone staring at the back side of it at this moment in time due to the picture that is on the back. I'm cool with it. Considering the stuff that they show us today, that's true, but like her S is just in your face.

SPEAKER_06 8:55

Really? This is in comparison. I'm gonna say in comparison, I'm saying, like, at least it's real. It's real.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

It is real. It is real. So what we do is um we've been doing this ever since season one, before we had video and we keep it rolling for our audio listeners only. Um, we make BJ verbally describe the album art for the people who can't see it. And then we run his verbatim description through AI and see what it generates and how close it gets to the actual album art. And then we'll post that when this episode airs as a fun guessing game. Um, to who can if people want to try to take a guess at what we're listening to before they hear the episode. Um, so fun story. We did two test episodes before doing season one just to get the flow of things, make sure the equipment was working right, kind of get our banter together. And the second one we did was with our two wives as well, so we could test having guests and what that sounded like. And we listened to Fleetwood Max rumors. And in out of nowhere, I don't remember if it was you or your wife, started describing that cover because it looks like um Mick Fleetwood, the guy on the cover who's supposed to represent Mick Fleetwood, looks like he has two cherries hanging from his crotch. Oh, and she started describing that, and we were under the influence at the time.

SPEAKER_02 10:24

Yeah, it's always hot thoughts, man.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

And it was hilarious, and so we just kind of kept doing it. When we went into the first official episode, I was like, BJ, how about you describe this album art?

SPEAKER_02 10:32

And like he is the connoisseur with the vinyl. I haven't seen most vinyls, so they're all generally new. I I said all the time, I grew up without cable, so I didn't get to see the music videos. I didn't even know what half the rappers and singers looked like. Um, you know, so it's all new to me. So it literally sometimes is most of the time, it's me looking at the album for the first time.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

So and when we weren't when we weren't having guests, I picked all the albums, and so I would purposely try to pick really obscure cover art to make him describe. And that was also three years ago, and AI wasn't as good as it is now either. So the pictures would come out home.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Hilarious. Now they're gonna be so now they're so real realistic looking. It's still it's still awesome. Um, still gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

The trick is he can't say specifics, like he can't say names, album titles, or or like words that are written on it. Like it has to be a true description of just what he is seeing. Let's do it, dude. So I'm gonna get it started, and you're gonna do your thing, and uh let's see what it what it comes up with.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

Oh my goodness lord. So it looks like I'm looking at a beautiful, beautiful, black, voluptuous woman.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

I'm gonna pause right now to say everyone can see what we're seeing from the back in this video.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Looks like I'm looking at a beautiful black voluptuous woman. It looks like she's laying at the edge of a pool looking at me uh as if I'm not married. And uh she she wants me to come back to the uh to the room a little bit later on tonight. She's got a beautiful uh gold and silver necklace on, which looks like uh some type of medallion, um, ruby medallion. But that ain't what I'm looking at. I'm looking at her beautiful, beautiful hair, is what I'm looking at that's flowing down uh her head. And um she looks like she's wearing a very tight uh black leather um wear that you would wear if you're going to bed, uh, which is where I would love to be with her. So um that's what I got.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

That is probably one of the longest woods you've ever done.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

Yeah, and it's gonna come out like rated X once we put it in there, probably. I hope not. The best part It's gonna violate the terms of agreement.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

The best part about him describing them is when it happens to be an album that's literally just the person or just the person's face and like nothing else going on to describe. He's out and pretty talented at describing people's faces. I'm not gonna lie, we did um Jay-Z's black album during episode two. So again, just a face. Doesn't even show the whole face because it's the black album, you know, it's it's got a darker hue to the whole thing. Yeah, it actually almost came out a hundred percent correct, with the exception of one minor thing you said that threw it that threw it off. It was the bull nose. Oh, then it put the ring in. But otherwise, I think it actually looks almost almost like him. Like he got down to the detail of calling it a 5950 hat.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Oh, yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Yeah, so first thing I like to ask everybody, what made you pick this album?

SPEAKER_06 14:00

So the title, um, when I was growing up, obviously, like my my name is Najea, but like my sister had to make a nickname up for me, and then multiple people would make nicknames up for me. I've gone from Nana to Nani to Yaya, my name F N Y A. I've been called all kinds of things. And Il Nana kind of just it resonates with me. It reminds me of me. Like, yeah, if she didn't say that she was the Ilnana, I would be the Ilnana.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Like, uh You both can be the second coming.

SPEAKER_06 14:38

And secondly, Foxy Brown. Um, I don't know if anybody noticed, but like the earlier fancies, especially like your little pims and Foxy Brown's, those are spitters. They were spitters for real. And they knew how to blend that talent with the sexuality. Yeah. It wasn't, it was raunchy at the time, but if you take it and compare it to the music nowadays, the music nowadays is soft, yeah. Soft uh, can I say P words?

SPEAKER_01 15:09

You can say anything you want.

SPEAKER_06 15:11

Okay, so it's all porn.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

Yeah, it is software. Oh, I thought you were gonna say the different P word.

SPEAKER_04 15:15

Yeah, I was like, that's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Porn, you can say porn, that's not a bad word. I don't, I don't know, I don't know, but like so so on that note, we are an 18 plus show. So you can literally say whatever you want. Yes, you can.

SPEAKER_06 15:28

I won't go crazy, but no, like she she's a she's a spitter for real. And it's funny because I was looking, I'm like, is this the um? And it is because that song right there, that song, the the kicks in that song is so intoxicating to me. And you ask Hash, ask him what song I put on first if I'm tipsy. Yeah, it's that straight to that straight to that.

SPEAKER_04 15:56

That's a go-to song.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

So we're gonna have to be around you more often when you're a little tipsy. Apparently. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 16:03

Sound good to me.

SPEAKER_01 16:04

You know what makes her really good though, and in and in comparison to everybody, like when you were talking about femme early femsis, Lil' Kim, Foxy Brown, it's because they were from New York. Yeah, and that's a proven fact. Fight me on it, I will argue. New York still has the best hip-hop. From the 90s.

SPEAKER_06 16:22

From the 90s, no. I was gonna say, even being from New York, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

When I talk about hip-hop, I never am referencing modern hip-hop.

SPEAKER_06 16:31

Now that we got that off. Good. Because I'm not either, and then when I have conversations, I have to kind of differentiate it because people will be like, oh, but what about like no no no?

SPEAKER_01 16:45

We're talking about we're talking about the good era.

SPEAKER_06 16:47

Yeah, like when it was pure, when it was like made you want to rap. Yeah, it made you want to go outside and like, I don't know, throw some cardboard around, start bring things and like that type of hip-hop. And that's all I listen to nowadays. My influence is heavily like this. People will tell me all the time, well, you sound like Rod Diviny, you sound like Fat Two Browns. You got a little little kid in you.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

And honestly, when we first met you and I started listening to your music, and I came home instantly and played like your entire Spotify catalog the first night with my wife after we smoked. Because I'm not gonna lie, a lot of your albums vibe really well with about a half a joint in you.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

You got it adults with my music.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

But um, you can hear we were trying to actually pick apart all the different references we were hearing in your style, um, because you have a very unique style. And later we're gonna get into how you came up with defining your sound in your style because I'm very curious to see how that formed. But yeah, you can hear certain people that you can tell influenced you. Um, and then there's some where we're like, hmm, I can't tell what that is, but I know it's something, my finger is on it, and I can't. That's awesome. You also have this ability to switch very seamlessly between singing and rapping, which not a lot of people can do like that well, and it throws you off a little bit at first because the first I think the first four or five songs that came on, because I just put everything on shuffle, was all singing, and then all of a sudden one of your rap songs came on, and I was like, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_06 18:33

Yeah, it's um it's it comes from just jumping into different bags growing up. My mom told me first and foremost, she was like, Whatever your emotions are, you cannot pin them up, you gotta write them down. And all I thought was, okay, so I'm supposed to have a diary.

SPEAKER_08 18:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 18:50

So I'm writing, and the writing is coming out as rhymes, it's coming out as poems. It was never like, oh, my day was so horrible.

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Dear diary.

SPEAKER_06 18:59

Jacob, Jacob was mean to me at school. Like, it was never that. It was always something like I saw this star in the sky, and it was very beautiful to me, and and now I need to describe to you what I saw in Sun Ryan. And I actually won a poetry contest with that specific poem, fourth grade. Wow. The stars.

unknown 19:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:20

And I was like, oh yeah, I'm taking this on the road. And it was all uphill from it was all uphill from there. Yeah, I was like, okay, I gotta, I gotta take it on the road. And I'm just as far as singing and rapping and transitioning back and forth between them, that just comes from New York. We got, unfortunately, I do have to give him his credit, even though he's a horrible person. Diddy kind of messed these two worlds for us. Yeah, so that's what I grew up listening to. It's a lot of hip-hop on RB beats, and it's a lot of RB on hip-hop. So it's like, how do you do both of these at the same time? And that's it just came out like this.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Yeah, we um we, my wife and I talk about this all the time. BJ and I were actually talking about this on a recent episode. Like, I know every generation is gonna think they have amazing music, and I'm not knocking a lot of modern stuff because there are some things that I will listen to that it just takes a while to find it. But we just grew up in a time, if you're looking at the 90s and the first five years of the 2000s, where there was just so much going on musically, wherever you lived, there was so much going on, and there was that experimentation. And I don't think you could talk about New York and New York hip-hop without again taking who some of these people are out of it. But like, there's a lot that Diddy did for the industry, there's a lot that Jay-Z was doing for the industry, there's a lot that other people coming up in that whole era that were just doing with experimentation musically, blending, sampling different things. I will give Diddy these props all the time, regardless of what is coming out presently with everything. He found deep cuts in albums to use for samples that nobody was looking at. Yeah, styles that were not meant for hip hop, probably, but he heard something and brought it in.

SPEAKER_06 21:13

Yeah, and if you watch that uh I guess that documentary, he couldn't actually make a beat. Like he was not behind the table at all. He was just like he just looped the sample. This here, this orchestrating like that removing the person from the art artistry. That's genius. Yeah, the fact that you could do that and not touch anything, yeah. You're puppeteering, yeah, actually. And I don't know, I think that's masterful to me. He mastered producing without actually producing, right? It's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Anne was signing all different kinds of artists, too. It wasn't just one thing. You know, he had RB groups, he had pop groups, he had hardcore rap. He had in between rappers. I mean.

SPEAKER_06 22:05

Gotta mess the world, especially like one of my favorite songs to listen to. Um, I always call it the wrong thing, but it's the joint with Method Man and Mary Gay Blas.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

All I need.

SPEAKER_06 22:17

That song is one of my favorites of all time. So eerie and so chilling, but so beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:26

And it's so gangster. But it's so like insane, damn. It's so many things at the same time. And that song, like, if I have to tap into something where I'm bouncing back and forth between singing nani and rapping nani, that's one of the first songs.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

And I think that was one of the first occasions that showed a little softer side to Method Man, but he was still gritty in it somehow. Like he was still Method Man.

SPEAKER_04 22:49

We love Method Man. We do.

SPEAKER_01 22:52

So much. Of course, Wu Tang has been in our thoughts this week. Rest in peace, power. I gotta mention that. I was sad to see that happen.

SPEAKER_08 23:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:08

I'm honestly happy, and I said I'm happy that we leave like younger generation, but it's slower for like people from back in the they go a little last year, 2025. I don't know what was going on.

SPEAKER_01 23:21

Taking uh yeah, like everybody's just dropping like it was like every day for a minute.

SPEAKER_06 23:27

Oh my god, Fat Man Scoop. I said, I'm I'm quitting. I'm quitting. I'm quitting.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

You're just giving up on music.

SPEAKER_06 23:35

Listen, Fat Man Scoop is such a I don't even know what to call it, but like you're not rapping, you're not singing, and somehow we're running to your music. We're running to your music. He is such a he's a he is like the world's greatest hype man. Yeah, the world's greatest hype man. I know they're trying to give him that the flavor flames.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Yeah, I do think he's if you're kind talking about top hype men, I think flave has to at least be in your top five, if not your top three, because nobody does it like and he didn't like he did rap, but he didn't rap. He was just flav. And you're like, who is this guy and why do I love him so much?

SPEAKER_06 24:16

We we have him in the top five, but I think I I might be a little a little younger than y'all, just a little bit younger. I'm 34. So y'all y'all got a couple years on me for my generation, fat man scoop, like collateral with Missy, Miss Sierra, Faith Evans, like crazy.

SPEAKER_02 24:39

What a way to go, though.

SPEAKER_06 24:40

Honestly, you know what I'm saying, what the way to go the way he lived. That's how you know green high.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

You know one of my favorite collaborations on a song that I feel like was completely unexpected, but then so necessary when it happened at the same time. Um, the song Shine did with Barrington Levy. To bring to bring him in on that track to only do the one thing he's known for. But it made the entire song. And when we were because at this point there's been a lot of documentaries about Fat Boy, um, but we were watching one specifically about Shine on Hulu that it taught when it talked about that part, he was like, I wanted to do it, and nobody else did. Like Diddy was like, that's a dumb idea, but he went along with it, yeah, and then it came out like pure gold.

SPEAKER_06 25:38

And then they did another one, they did do a second song, and then that one is fire too.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

He's actually performing in Brooklyn soon as a one night, one time only anniversary to his album. Shine or um Shine. Oh now that he's so I don't know if you follow along, but like he he didn't get voted in again as the prime minister. He lost the election last year. So I don't know what he's totally doing with his life now, but like obviously he's got some more time on his hands, and I was like, that's really cool. He's coming back to Brooklyn for a one night only show. Because I think Shine that first shine album was so good.

SPEAKER_06 26:16

Very good. Shine is a different kind of beast. Like essentially because he had like that voice. His voice carried him a lot, and fun fact, bad boys is actually a damn player. I pointed out to you on my spot by a big man.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

Shit wabbity wabbity wabbity fun fact, I actually was a bad boy for life when I was in sixth grade. I got the jersey still to prove it. Oh, yeah, homie. You know because you've seen it. Yeah, man. I have the throwback biggie yellow bad boy jersey. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 26:59

You should see a dude a Harlem Shake is hilarious.

SPEAKER_06 27:01

Hey, I can't, I can't Harlem shake no more.

SPEAKER_01 27:08

I was gonna say this.

SPEAKER_06 27:12

Harlem don't agree with none of that.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

And wait till you get up to our ages.

SPEAKER_06 27:17

Oh my gosh. I work out everything now. I'm trying to stay flexible. There you go. Not cast me shaking for Harlem. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

So we just flipped um side A to side B. So we have a little time um where we can probably get into something that is a bit of a longer conversation. So I do want to hear about now that I know your origins uh of the fourth grade poetry contest that spawned the superstar you are going to be in life.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Well, I would love to hear that poem, dude.

SPEAKER_06 28:04

Let's I know what it was titled.

SPEAKER_01 28:07

How so I mean you don't have to go that far back into it, but like clearly that was a pivotal moment. So, how did that start to shape you into wanting to become an artist? But also, I really do want to hear when you got into your artistry, how did you find the sound you have currently?

SPEAKER_06 28:26

Uh so I actually didn't find my sound up until maybe the last five years, yeah, to be honest. Um, I worked with quite a few producers when I was coming up. First person that put me in the studio was my older cousin Yusuf. Shout out to Yusuf. Um he saw that I was just making videos like rapping on YouTube Beach and stuff. And he was like, You actually have something, like you're actually really dope. So I know you're young, but I know this guy. Um, he took me to the studio. Uh I can't even remember what town it was on Long Island, but it was a professional studio. First time I'm like 14, 15 years old in this big immaculate studio with the booths and the windows and the tables and stuff. That's cool. And I see this big dude, and he's like chopped.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

I'm like, oh why is it always there's always a big dude there as soon as you walk in that's just like yo.

SPEAKER_04 29:21

Every single man that I've met sounds like that. My man doesn't shook. Like, my man sounds like that too.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

He does actually sound like that though.

unknown 29:30

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

Every time I come up to you guys, if we're going somewhere and you're out, and I I you just go to slap hands, it's the same thing. Cash literally is just like, yo, shut up.

SPEAKER_06 29:41

Like that's what one he's probably blitzed out of his mind. So his voice drops like three offenses when he's fine. And then he already has a deep voice to be given, and then he's just tall and intimidating.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

I wouldn't say intimidating.

SPEAKER_06 29:58

It's intimidating to me, huh?

SPEAKER_01 30:00

He's a four.

SPEAKER_06 30:03

Um but uh got into the studio and my issue was I was hanging out with a bunch of hoodrats, doing hood rat things with her rat friends. Um, but we were writing songs. Uh we wrote the song called Cypher is the Illus. I had like a little music conglomerate at the time consisting of me, my partner at that time, and one of my best friends. And I fumbled it. I'm not gonna lie, because I would come to the studio late or not be able to find a ride and not communicate that I can't find.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

You're also only 15.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

Yeah, but it's it sounded like 15-year-old things going on.

SPEAKER_06 30:39

Yeah, but it was 15-year-old things going on, which I'm pretty sure that man expected it. So he he let me live a little bit. I recorded two joints there, and then uh fast forward a little bit. I ended up meeting uh my main producer in New York. His name is Ninock. Incredible. Made my first EP with him called Dropping Hems, which is on SoundCloud. So if you ever want to hear like some early naughty, I might have to check that out.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

I didn't know that tidbit of information.

SPEAKER_06 31:12

Is there? Let's go. So um there's actually two EPs there. There is, and um, just a warning the other EP is called Feather Dugs. It's two song EP, and the cover is inappropriate. Our whole show is inappropriate. I'm completely naked on the cover. But it's a side profile. It's a side profile.

SPEAKER_05 31:34

I was coming into like my sexuality, like a young teenager going into my early 20s.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Again, a lot of 15-year-olds.

SPEAKER_05 31:41

I was just hoping it wasn't 15.

SPEAKER_04 31:47

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_06 31:48

But um, dropping gems, the first EP, and that one I think has like three songs on it. And I was like super impressed with myself. Like I was like, I want to do this all the time, I'm never gonna stop doing this. And Nino's a loop producer. So it was very easy for me to rap over a beef, and that's when I started finding out that I was really good at jumping into pockets. Gotcha. Like, so anytime somebody listens to my music, they're like, how do you just switch flows and stuff like that? Like, it'd be like it's very like all over the place, but organized, and I'm like, uh.

SPEAKER_01 32:25

So you rapped first?

SPEAKER_06 32:27

Started rapping. Well, I can't say I rapped first. I was singing first.

SPEAKER_01 32:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 32:31

I skipped some things because there's I just have so many memories with music and creation. I think the first thing I ever truly recorded was all like a boom box with a tape.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

It was actually uh it was actually one of those Kevin McAllister recorders from Home Alone 2.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

It was a freaking Walmart boom box because it was blue and I had a cassette tape and it was the on-display one at Walmart.

SPEAKER_05 32:56

Oh my god. Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_06 32:58

It was one of those, and I wrote a song with my sister from my grandmother because my grandmother passed. And it was called All In Together. I still remember the hook to it.

SPEAKER_03 33:07

So um, uh, oh, uh can help we recorded that and we were like organizing on it and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

We got a free performance. We don't even know we were gonna get.

SPEAKER_06 33:29

I was really young with that. That was probably the first thing I truly recorded. But um, moving past Nina, um, through that person, I ended up meeting other people. I don't know if you guys are familiar with Teen Backpack from the West Coast. It was like um, it was a really, really dope thing for a good amount of time. West Coast rap platform that really, really focused on like the backpack type rappers, people who have lyricism and substance. And I was on that platform for maybe like two to three years. Um, I ended up meeting Big Pun Son through like Christopher River. Wow. Um, ended up going to like a random DV Wright video shoot. Didn't get to meet Disney Wright, but it it was You're still there? Yeah, like it was still an experience. Exactly. Um, and I learned a lot through that platform, recorded a lot of music, and then fast forward ended up in North Carolina, had to move here because I ended up being a homeless for a little while in New York. Um that's a long story. But but ended up here and I started dating someone that I went to high school with. Horrible mistake. Never don't recommend it. Two stars, never do it again.

SPEAKER_01 34:46

The person or dating someone from high school in general?

SPEAKER_06 34:48

Dating somebody from high school, like I'll give you a short story. I went to high school with the person from Long Island, and we were in classes together, stuff. Best friend, big homie. Graduating, he's like, I like you. What do you say? I said, absolutely not. No, fast forward, wow, years later, like we still ended up, we were still friends, but years later, I'm talking about like I'm 18 years when I graduate, I'm like 25 now in North Carolina. Yeah, and he had moved out here before me. So he's like, You're moving to Charlotte? I said, Yeah, he's like, I'm in Charlotte.

SPEAKER_01 35:23

And you're like, shit.

SPEAKER_06 35:26

And then he kind of made it like he was trying to help me get my stuff together and kind of cornered me in a vulnerable place. And I was like, I'll give you a try after all these years. It lasted like six months. But the good part about it is I ended up meeting my producer through him.

SPEAKER_08 35:42

Boom.

SPEAKER_06 35:42

Right? I meet my producer, and my producer's in a place. Uh, shout out Crewman Prodigy. He's in a place where he's better at engineering and he likes engineering more than he likes beat making, but he was beat making. And he likes to tell the story every time we do an interview. He said it at my listening party. I was like, You have to tell me that. He was like, She was so mean, and she didn't like my beats, and she rapped like a battle rapper. And I'm like, you don't do it. Yeah, to tell people I don't like your beating. But it was true. I wasn't really partial to them because he was still in a growing phase, as was I, because like he said, I rap like a battle rapper. I needed not to tone it down, but if I was going to be like more marketable for everybody, if I softened it a little bit and still said the very, very silver tip tone things that I said, and I mastered that. Like I I would sit here and I'll talk to you.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Are you talking to me?

SPEAKER_06 36:43

It cut so deep when you said it so nice. And that's how we developed the sound. I found out that I couldn't find out that I could sing, but like I was trying to and it wasn't coming out the way I wanted it to. I was trying to like sing. He was like, Well, stop trying to like sang it and just sing it, just carry the just carry the tool. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. So we found this thing called the baby voice. And if I I can't even explain what I do with my pause.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Now that I know that that's what you call it, it makes a lot of sense. But I like I said, there was this moment where we were sitting listening to some of your songs where we just can't totally pinpoint this voice. I get it now, but it works so well.

SPEAKER_06 37:33

It's a it's literally a toddler. If I had to mimic a toddler singing, that's what exactly what it is.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

I would have never guessed that. But like from the live, I remember Dominique was like, that sound is different. And I was like, Yeah, it's different. I can't put my finger on it, but that's what it is.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

That's the now we know. Now we know, and I love it. That's the official how you came up with it, and I would have not guessed that.

SPEAKER_06 37:59

Yeah, and I noticed that because I was appealing to a lot of men at that time, especially because I was like freshly single and making music, and the my first set of locks was like down in my back, and I was like, oh yeah. COVID was coming, lines were popping, I was doing like uh um one of those music reviews, so I was getting a lot of attention, and the baby voice attracted a lot of people. It was just like, yo, it's so angelic and so innocent, but the shit you're talking about is very it's not looking back on her eyes, like it's kind of fucking weird. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Yeah, and so like I said, like I want to say the first probably three or four songs we heard from you were all solely singing, and so it was that voice. But again, we had smoked, so like we're kind of in a little bit of a trance, just like falling into the sound of your voice. Um, and the mu you know, the beat and the music matches it perfectly. So I'm glad you teamed up with him as a producer, and that was able to kind of cultivate that sound because it's very unique and it works so so so well for you.

SPEAKER_06 39:17

As I got better, and the more I found my sound, I'd be better.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Yeah, I mean there were there's some real bangers, I encourage everybody, and then by the end of the episode, we'll list out everything where everybody can find you, but like I I I don't want to describe it because it doesn't do any justice, just go listen to it for sure because you're gonna be blown away. And if you're like me and you put it on shuffle and it starts off with some of the softer stuff first and then goes straight into some of your your harder raps, you're like, damn, I didn't see that coming. But I also really love this at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 39:52

Like it on shuffle, uh put it on shuffle because I'm like seven different artists. Yeah. Put it on shuffle be and and go clean your house or something like that because you'll forget that you're listening to Nani, and then when you come back and be like, How did we get here? Yeah, hold on, you know, look at your phone, you're like, Oh, it's the same girl. My mom does that. Like, I was barbecuing today and I was playing music, and my mom was like, Is that you? I said, nope. She's like, sounds like you. I was like, Yeah, I know. I sound I listen to artists that will influence me. So the next time I come so she's like, that to you. I said, that is not true.

SPEAKER_01 40:27

You also have a lot of you also have a lot of collaborations because you're involved in kind of a group of people that you you call your your tribe or whatever, and then so you know, you have other artists on all of your songs too, and so both male and female, and it switches up. And yeah, even sometimes for us, we were like, is this her? Is this somebody else? Because sometimes it'll switch if you can't quite tell if you don't know who they are. And we hadn't really met you face to face yet, and some of the other people face to face yet, so we are solely going off of hearing it.

SPEAKER_06 40:59

You guys watch the Game of Thrones?

SPEAKER_01 41:02

I started it and never finished it.

SPEAKER_06 41:04

Okay, yeah. Have you ever watched the whole thing? I'm literally Arya when she gets the Bravo's the the girl with no face. Okay, I can be anybody. I can be anybody. She doesn't like that. Okay. She has music.

SPEAKER_01 41:19

I'm scared of that. That doesn't that doesn't bleed that doesn't bleed into other facets of your life. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 41:29

Um let me take a flow real quick and see if I can master that. One of my favorite artists when I was younger was Eminem. I found some CDs on the ground. Somebody threw them out the window. And I found them at my bus stop. I said, Someone threw out an MM CD? Somebody threw out a sim shady. How do you throw out the swim shady? I just picked up the CDs and straight throwing money. Like I don't know why they threw the CDs out the window, but I was very grateful because that got me into like my physical copy collection. And then every time it alpha rode around, my mom be like, what do you guys want? I want money. So I would go through this little catalog when we got in the mail.

SPEAKER_01 42:07

So I see the one set for 12 CDs. I tell this story too many times. Too many times. I feel like our audience is gonna hate us. Yeah, I did that thing so many times.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

We need to know about it. Bring it back.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

I did it so many times in a row. My mom was like, How are you affording all these CDs? I was like, they're$12 total. Never mind the fact that there's fine print that you're then committed to pay full price for like five more CDs over the course of six months. But I learned if you commit male fraud, they don't know that.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Not male fraud.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Every time I did it, I put a different name on it to the point where I ran out of enough versions of my own name. Because I would just do like full name, nickname of the first name, a middle name is the first name. I did it so many times I ran out of variations that I had to make up an actual name beyond that. This is why I had the biggest CD collection on any of my friends. Which is also ironically enough how I really got into a lot of hip-hop because my parents wouldn't buy me the CDs. Yeah. So I used that system as a scam to get a bunch of like my early bone thug CDs, all my all my bad boy CDs, um, you know, just a lot of stuff that I couldn't go to the store and buy myself. And they would just show up in the mail and nobody could say anything because I paid a penny.

SPEAKER_06 43:30

Listen, hey, get to the high, I love it, bro.

SPEAKER_01 43:35

But on that note, we are all the way finished with side B and hep in for a few minutes. Um, so we're gonna pause here and then flip it to the second disc. After we get back from our commercial break, we will do a giveaway that we have been doing this season for all of our listeners that you get to be a part of. And uh and then we'll just keep the conversation going. I like it. Get to thank our sponsors. That's what's coming up, baby. I love it. So please enjoy this message from our sponsors. Hey fam, quick break in the vibes because we've got to put you onto something special that's really been elevating our sessions lately. Season four of the Finally High Podcast is rocking with Hey Binks, the clean, unflavored THC drink additive made for real connection. Hey Binx was born from a simple idea. Life feels loud. So your moment shouldn't have to. No buzzkill, no hangover, no pressure. Just a smooth little boost that turns whatever you're sipping into a whole mood. Hi, I'm Drew Beats. And if you're looking to unwind, vibe out, or get a little more present with your people, Hey Binx has you covered. The official beverage additive of Vinally High all season long. Of course, every episode, we always want to make sure we highlight our sponsors who have been very awesome to us this year. I have lost track of my order of things, so until I do the post-editing, I actually have no idea who the sponsor of this particular episode is, and I should probably know that. But we thank them all every episode, anyway. So big shout outs to all of our sponsors, True Bloom Wellness, the Ghost Face Gorilla, and our friends at Hey Binks. Every episode, we've been doing a giveaway. And that is in part due to the graciousness of our sponsors. So every episode, we're doing a trivia question. It is circled around either the album or the artist that we're listening to in some way. So I'm gonna ask it to you. Whether you get it right or wrong does not matter. It's just a fun guessing game. We'll give the right answer, and the point is um, we'll post the question during the week we release this episode at some point. And that gives listeners a chance to listen to the episode, find the answer, and the first person to DM us the correct answer once we post it is gonna win a free pre-roll. Um as a as a thanks from us, a promotional thanks uh from us from the show, but also um a thanks from our sponsor, the Ghostface Gorilla, who has provided us with all of our flour for season four.

SPEAKER_02 46:49

You get a taste of that as well.

SPEAKER_01 46:51

We we love for our guests to be sent home with something nice, so I'll just say, and as a thanks for being on the show, you will also go home with a pre-roll uh on behalf of the show, as well as two drink additives, powder drink additives from our friends at Hay Banks. There are five milligram powder drink additives, no flavor, so you can put in anything you want. You stir it in until it dissolves, kind of like crystal light. Give it 15 minutes to do its chemistry and then uh have a good time. So you will also be walking home with stuff. Are you ready for your question? So China Doll, her album that she released in 1999, gave her what major accolade on the Billboard 200. Uh she was actually the first female rapper to I should have written down the answer properly, and apparently I skipped part of it, so I'm gonna have to look this up. And I don't remember what the actual accolade is. 1999 is when China doll came out. Um you can't tell me that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 48:18

I was in first grade, I would have never known that.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

Because I was in like fifth or sixth grade, probably when this came out. Let's see, 99, I gotta do the backwards math. 99, I actually would have been in seventh grade. Yeah, so I would have been in sixth grade.

SPEAKER_06 48:31

In 99, I would have been seventh grade.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

Sixth grade, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:33

Maybe like second grade. Yeah, but still fairly old.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

I can't believe I actually didn't write down the answer to this question. Who the hell does that? Oh, it debuted at the top of the Billboard 200, making it the first full rap album by a woman rapper to debut at number one on the chart. That's what it was. I knew it was something huge. I was like, I should remember this. So yeah, so sorry for the confusion, but listeners, you will still have to respond correctly uh as you pick out the right answer from all of that. Horrible podcasting. This is as usual, baby. Welcome to Vinyl High. I love it. But so we've got uh we've got side B on the turntable, or sorry, disc two on the turntable ready to go. So I'm gonna get that started up, and then we'll just dive back into uh whatever the hell we were talking about before.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

I always love to ask uh questions, especially to our guests that that have lived in somewhere uh different and then came to Charlotte because I am born and bred right here in center city of Charlotte. What do you what what have you um seen that's completely different from New York? Things that you like about Charlotte, things that you don't like about Charlotte when it comes to the to the music screen.

SPEAKER_06 49:52

We're gonna go to the sandwich method here. Sandwich method is when you give a compliment and you say the real compliment. Then you see what you really feel. I like it, I like it. And then you tell me what it comes.

SPEAKER_02 50:01

I'm ready.

SPEAKER_06 50:02

If you ever want to be a supervisor or something, because what you do for employees. Sandwich that's fine. So Charlotte, I met my man out here.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 50:10

Um, like I followed my mom down here. Um, so all of my family is out here. We actually just came one by one. Um first, my older sister was actually out here before. And then me, my brother, and then my second oldest sister. So I have full range to get my siblings if I want to. I have my nieces and nephews around, it's beautiful. And again, I met my liked at a show. Incure it. The middle part. Y'all cannot drive. Signals. When you merge into a lane, that little stick on the left side, it might get placed on your car. I don't know. But for the most part, every car on their own, it's on the left side.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

I don't think I've ever seen one out on the other side.

SPEAKER_06 50:57

I don't know. I'd be having to ask myself, it's like, is it missing? Like, is it do they not have it? Is it on the left side of your signal?

SPEAKER_01 51:04

Unless it's a British car.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

Right. Listen, just I've even gotten into the habit. I've been snagging with my pinky. And then and then snag it back up. And then you just let the person behind you know that you're moving. Please do not put it on the last minute at the stop, like, or at the turn. And then we're all good.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Or not at all, which most people take that approach.

SPEAKER_06 51:25

I went into an accident until I moved to Charlotte. Um I got into an accident last year. Somebody rear-ended a box truck rear-ended him, and then he rear-ended. Okay. Very nice settlement. But I have ne I've come from New York. I have driven through Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, Staten Island, Long Island, Expressway, Southern State, Parkway. I've driven all of it. Not one accident. Come here, boom. So I this is crazy. I really do like the weather out here. There we go. The three weeks in winter I couldn't really deal with. I'm not really like I was born in the winter, not a winter fan.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

See, that's why we all leave the north though, because we get fed up with winter.

SPEAKER_06 52:09

Warm, yeah. Like, I don't like shoveling snow. Listen, it's so warm out here that when it did something like 12 inches, I looked out the window and I said, we don't have a shovel.

SPEAKER_01 52:19

Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_06 52:20

We don't never needed that. Across the street, my neighbor was shoveling snow with her dust fan.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

I was just gonna say, my favorite thing about Charlotte is actually the MacGyver-like ingenuity people come up with when it snows because none of us have salt or shovels. I the first year I lived here, I saw someone using like a cafeteria tray. Yeah, I've seen two by fours out there push. I'm like, you people are like, you'll find whatever you can and make it work.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Not gonna spend any money on a shovel for it to rust in the carriage.

SPEAKER_01 52:55

Yeah, you can buy snow. The thing with Charlotte, though, is when snow shovels and ice get in stock at Lowe's at Home Depot, they disappear within five minutes. And then they don't order more. So you're like, if you don't get in that first round, you're screwed. Yeah, you're done.

SPEAKER_06 53:10

Okay, yeah. We didn't buy it. My brother and my man, they made it work. I forgot. I think my brother was using like an actual shovel, like for dirt. Yeah. And then I think my man was using like a push broke. Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

Yup. My neighbor next door did the best thing I've ever seen in my life because the snow we got that day was so light and fluffy, and it didn't, it wasn't heavy, it didn't pack or nothing. He was out there with his leaf blower blowing the driveway, and it worked perfectly.

SPEAKER_04 53:37

Holy moly.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Did it on the back deck, did it to his car. I'm like, you sir, deserve a trophy for this. That is awesome.

SPEAKER_04 53:45

Give his light to it.

SPEAKER_02 53:46

Yeah, we got that beautiful weather. And then if you don't like what's going on, just like wait a couple of days and then four hours.

SPEAKER_06 53:54

It might rain when you wake up, and then it's gonna be 75 degrees, and then you might see a little sleep. Might. That's possibility. So wear shorts and a sweater and blue. Lair, I'd say that.

SPEAKER_01 54:09

It's so true. It's not even a joke.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

I love it though. That's that's why I'm never gonna leave. I've been to I've been all over the place from up north to down south now. Once we get to Florida, it's just way too hot down there, too crazy down there. You go over to the uh the west coast, I can't be dealing with no the ground is supposed to stay still. From what from from what I'm familiar with, the ground is not supposed to move. So they got that shit going on over there. So I'm just gonna stay away from there. Carolina's my home.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

We just had an earthquake. I know, yeah. Just like just at the border the other day. Just a little something. Something between North and South Carolina. Just a little something, but we're far enough removed on the north side of the city, we never felt anything.

SPEAKER_02 54:54

That's why I liked. No, no. Yeah. Keep them over there. And they got a big one coming, from what I'm being told. They got a big one coming. Y'all can have that. They said the Super Bowl was over there. I was like, yeah, they can keep that over there. I don't want that.

SPEAKER_01 55:13

Where do we go from here? VJ. Where do we go from here? We've just done the how's the weather talk?

unknown 55:24

No.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

Well, we always like to talk, we we're called vinylly high for a reason. So we we talk about vinyl a little bit, you know. We've done we talk about music. Then we like to get into especially how our guests um what they like to partake in, and then how that's influenced um their their music or their art, uh, what they're doing. And I I got a good feeling that it influences yours. Uh so uh I I went to a show. I went to a I was gonna say, what would make you say that, sir? I went I went to a show, and I and the first thing I said we gotta have her on our show because before y'all went on stage, we saw y'all in the back, and it was nothing but smoke coming in. Yeah, and we were like, oh, this is gonna be amazing, this is gonna be a fire show. It's gonna be amazing. I know it. Because they get ready, and then we smelt what y'all had coming our way. We were like, no, this is gonna be definitely be a good show. So we we always like to ask, um, what do you like to partake in? Do you like the vape or do you do you do you like herb? Like, what's your what's your thing?

SPEAKER_06 56:31

So um younger, I started smoking like at a very inappropriate age. Like I started smoking at like one. Wow. Um and I stopped when I got pregnant when I saw 19. Stopped for a very long time. I actually recently started like hitting it again. And like when I say like I can hit it maybe once, most of the time I manual hit it and just blow it in my mouth.

SPEAKER_08 56:58

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 56:59

And I'll take two of those and I'm good. Wow. Um, I've edibles, I intolgen. I'm more of like a psychedelic person. More more often than the the herbs, can't CVD. CVD. Um, but it's always been a part of my life. When I first started my music journey, I was on that. Like facing them. And a lot of my music came from that. It puts your mind in a very relaxed state. Unfortunately, I did have to stop for a little while because it started messing with my nervous system. Like the paranoia is coming out that it gets too much. Um now it's just uh in a place where it relaxes me a lot more, and I know how to emotionally regulate as well. So just without anything. So I think that my body is like, okay, we can allow this back in. But my man, that's a product school. Like he he that's that's uh that's his literature.

SPEAKER_01 58:02

I got respect for cash, so I'm not gonna make a lot of jokes with him not being here, but like I've been around him a few times, and that man is always having a good vibe. That's just all I'm gonna say. That's all I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_06 58:20

But um, it it really has always been a part of it. I can't leave it out of my story, even though I don't know Jack as much as I used to. Um, and then all of my friends is just like I don't ever get away from it. So if it's not uh a high directly, it's a contact. It's a contact contact. I'm constantly contact guy all the time. Right now, if I was not here, I'd be home with a contact.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

Yep. So we're gonna tell story time now because it's already been brought up of kind of how we have been around you a few times. I actually met well, I didn't meet you the first time, but I came across you the first time through another podcast that you had done. Um it was a it's a video podcast for a guest that we are gonna have on this show as well. And you were talking about your first experience with mushrooms. Um so when I was first connecting with that other that other guest, um, and I said, Well, if there, do you have anything you would recommend out of your series that I watch? Like as a focus, like I I'll probably watch a couple, but like, is there anything you know that stands out that you would tell people, hey, watch this episode or whatever for whatever reason? And she was like, No, not really, but pick a female episode. And so I just happened to pick yours the first day I went on her page and uh and watched your series, and I was like, This is someone I definitely feel like we need to have on the show because you just fit the way you were describing certain things. I was like, this is just someone that really needs to be on this show, and then that was before finding you on Instagram and finding your page and listening to your Spotify and all that. Um but I reached out to you and you had ironically enough had a CD release party or whatever you guys were calling it. It was a compilation that you and the tribe did, and it was like what a week away. So like it literally lined up as like you had it going on as soon as we started talking. So we made the choice to come out, all four of us, me and BJ and our two wives, to come watch you guys and meet everybody and support and and kind of build that relationship. And so we had a fantastic night at that first thing. You guys did every song on that album, it was a bunch of you, so it was all different artists doing different songs. You guys collab on each other's songs a lot, so it was just like a cool vibe of everybody performing together.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:50

Um, I'm gonna have BJ tell the story of how that night ended when I go while I go flip this record, and then after he tells that story, I'm gonna share about the second time we came and supported you.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:07

I'm ready for this.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Because that's the educational part of this show.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:11

Straight piggybacking off of that event. It was so cool because I one thing that I love that y'all did is y'all opened up the mic for just anybody, and there was a couple, there's there was uh two artists that I remember that got up, they they passed their their uh their music to to the DJ and they performed, and I was like, this is fucking dope. They like they having a show, but letting other people also get in and shine on the vibe. It was it was awesome. Um, but we finished it, and the night was awesome, the music was awesome. Y'all, y'all wind it down, we're vibing. We walk out to our car, and we had just so happened to park our car.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:51

We somehow parked right right beside each other.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:53

I didn't even notice that. And he's got a big blue cart, didn't even notice it.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:57

And you know what that area looks like of what the parking is like. Like it was random. I just found a spot and somehow wiggled my car into it, and boom, we just end up right beside him.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:05

And the next thing I know, we're sitting there about to do the huggy, kissy, like letting everybody go for the night. And then a dude, a girl, comes running up to us, boom, runs smack dab into the side of his car because she's being chased by some guy, like high off of his brains, trying to beat the brakes off of her. We just had the most amazing night, the vibes were perfect. We're about to say goodnight, and his car gets run into by a girl being chased by a guy like high off his mind. His friends come running behind, wrap him up.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:45

I don't even know if they were all friends or just other random people that were at the bar.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

Bro, it was the craziest shit ever. And then I got a little bit of military in my background.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:56

He was a drill sergeant. Yeah, just a little bit of military in my mind. I'm not gonna let him gloss over that part of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

It was like literally trying to get to the girl, and I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:07

I was trying to open my door and go home.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

You just trying to open up his door and go home. And I just snapped back into it, try to de-escalate the situation, tell everybody to get out the way. But I was so upset because the vibes were so incredible the whole night. And we were literally, I was about to go home, we were about to go home, we're about to smoke, but literally, this I can't smoke after something like that though, because now I got the angry vibes up in the air and messed everything all up now.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

This is the demeanor of BJ I am used to. And in that moment, his gears shifted into like the loudest, sternest yell at somebody I've ever heard in my life. And it was just, get the fuck off his car. And someone was like, He's beating her up. He's like, I don't give a fuck. This is my car, get off of it. I was like, I was standing there like a deer in the headlights, like, like I was like, BJ. It was crazy. It was we were probably about a block down from the venue, but um it was like one of those random side, just skinny parking lots.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:09

But Charlotte uh club scene at 11:30 at night in South End.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:17

It was a Saturday, I think it was a Saturday. Luckily, he um BJ was also giving me some drinks of uh the THC seltzers that know to brewing makes. Because I had never tried them and he had a couple left over from a tailgate. And so I had the I was like, babe, we just gotta get home and we're gonna crack these open and we're gonna smoke and drink and sit out the deck because we need to come down from this. But at the same time, I'm like that was crazy and awesome at the same time.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

I can't, I can't part, I can't part like whatever my vibe's going in. So with me, whatever my vibe's going in is what the THC uh is going to take on. And if I if I start smoking, I've never smoked with like an angry vibe, but I've started smoking with like a sad vibe, right? Oh, happy vibe all the time. Um, a concerned vibe, and so I I can't go into it with with like anger being anywhere in my system over the last hour or two. Um, I don't I don't even want to know, but I don't even want to know what that feels like. Might be the fucking hulk. I don't know. I might just start like wanting to smash stuff, but that's that's one reason why I like THC. Um, is because whatever vibe I'm already feeling, it just pronounces that vibe. It just yeah, it just uh brings it out even more. So I was so upset though, because like it was my first show that I've been to, like a live rap show, and I'd like never been to one really, but that was like the last one in probably like 15 years, and it was fire. And then they then the guy trying to beat the girl out. I'm like, what the hell's going on here?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Like we we were still honestly coming down from how BJ was saying, like, at the end, after you guys did the whole album, you opened it. Up to other people that were there if they want to do something. And there was this little girl that just turned into the Tasmanian devil running around the whole room. And we were all like, Where did it just come from? I'm so like this was awesome.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:14

I think that was Dreas. It was like with a silent king. Yeah, that was with a silent king. Yeah. Um Dread.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

Like she came out of nowhere with the most energy I've seen in a long time.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:28

We were encouraging her. She was a rapper. She makes her own meat. So when she performed, she produced it.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:34

Wow.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:34

Yeah, and she's very like within a shelf.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

And we'd be like, the whole night she was like enjoying. But you could tell, like, not a lot of energy necessarily coming out of just sitting there enjoying it, listening to the music. And then all of a sudden you gave her the mic and like Yeah, we had a song right now.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:51

Oh, it was something.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Right now, we're all there was there was someone, there was someone videotaping things, and they were trying to follow her around as she was running around.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:03

Bro, she was over tables, fucking standing on stuff. We were like, oh love.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:08

It was a great, great time. So then fast forward a few months later, you had just a general listening event. Like it wasn't for a specific album or anything. You were just inviting people out to come hang out. It was at a local dispensary. Your ticket came with a pre-roll. We hung out in the back lounge and you just put on your Spotify and your YouTube and we're just playing songs, and everyone just hung out and vibed and had a great time. It was awesome. So within that, and I said I tell this story because I have to share all of these stories, especially with the people that like were part of it that didn't realize what happened, maybe. But also, this is truly the educational part of the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:49

And there's one thing we preach, and that night I did not practice. And it's two things. One, don't take product from someone you don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:57

Don't do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:58

And two, start small if it's something you're not familiar with. You can always add more, right? So we're sitting there, we're sitting there listening to the first song, and the someone that works at said establishment, and I'm not downing them, so like this is by no means an attack on them. Yeah, came out and started offering people things because shops get samples of stuff all the time for products they don't carry or may carry later if they decide they like it, whatever. So he was sharing, and there's nothing wrong with that. Came over and was like, hey, you guys want to try a gummy? These are 10 milligram gummies. Our tolerance is pretty high at this point, and at that point, still, like, we were like, cool, we could pop a 10 milligram gummy and split this joint and be and probably and because the party, like the gathering itself, was two hours to listen, and then we figured we'd probably hang out a little bit still. Like we we had time. So we pop the gummy, started smoking the joint, listening to your music. Five minutes later, I hear the same guy handing the gummy out to somebody else, going, Oh shit, these are 20 milligrams.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:07

Oh my god. I actually have a story.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:11

I figured you did after that. So we're like, this could go one of two ways, and I'm hoping it's one and not the other. Yo, we still smoke that joint casually, probably the slowest I've smoked. So, like, we don't want we don't want to go too hardcore just in case. By the time this gummy kicked in after the two-hour mark, and it was time to leave, we were out of our minds. And I mean, to the point where, like, I was like, baby, we can't say bye to anybody. We have to just sneak the fuck out of here because it was that bad. I was like, We wouldn't have because we were like, we we don't know these people to that level yet. We can't snap hands, we just need to get the hell out of here. And we we left.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:02

And someone had said there is because it's in an area where there's a lot to do, right? It's in Noda. So someone had said there's a really good pizza spot, like right on the corner of where we were.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:13

We couldn't find it, first of all. Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:17

So we were just like, Well, we're hungry, but we can't find it, and we probably look like dumbasses right now, so we've got to get out of it. There was a guy standing there on the corner eating a slice, and we wanted to be like, Where did you find that? But he was sober, and we were, and we knew we looked sketchy. So we walked back to the car. We parked like a block away in one of the outdoor pay for parking lots. And the funny part is when we first got there, it's one of those where you gotta get on your phone and download the app and scan your license plate and all this shit. So we went through the whole thing, and the the own the lowest option you had was six hours of parking. So I'm like, I made the joke, I'm like, this seems overkill. We don't need that much time. Thank God it was six hours of free park of parking that we paid for because we sat in the car for about three trying to get ourselves straight enough to go home. And I mean, it was one of those highs where after about being in the car for like an hour, we both realized we couldn't lift our arms or our legs anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:18

Jeez, dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

So I'm like, I can't even step on the pedal or steer the wheel. And she's falling asleep next to me. I'm like, babe, you gotta ride this out with me. Nobody can fall asleep. I'm not getting us home if you fall asleep. We legit sat in the car for about two, three hours. Oh my god. And and we were outside and we were on the edge, the street edge. So, like, people were just walking past us the whole time, and we're not paradoxic, but we're like, can they tell that we're just sitting in here because we're so baked out of our minds we can't get home?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

The worst case scenario. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:50

We laughed about it eventually, but in the moment we're like, this is really bad. I had to concentrate so hard on myself getting sober. I was like, I can do it. I was I manifested the shit out of it. I was like, I can do it. Do it, I can do it, I can do it. Because we were like a half hour from home.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:08

Yeah, yeah, so it's far away.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:09

At a time of night, we're in an area where there tend to be cops.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:13

I'm like, dude, this is not good, and we can never do this again. And then we were wondering if we were the only ones to have that happen. And I'm guessing we were not.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:22

Nope.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:23

Jones.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:27

I do indulge in gummies every now and again, but I'm not like I am in Mexico for the first time. I took like a whole gummy and I worked my way up to it. The gummies that I was given in Mexico, very light, very mellow, liked it, loved the feeling. I was like, you know what? I'll volunteer for a hot one next time. The gummy that they gave me at that damn place was fucking lethal. Lethal to the point where like, you remember the shot that they gave me?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:56

Oh, yeah, we took a little sip of a drink, too. That I mean, but I mean literally a little. Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:01

Everyone got a free free roll with their ticket. So everybody's smoking, it's hella contact guy around me. Then this guy's like, here, take a shot of this. I'm gonna take a shot of this. Hi. And then the gummy comes, and I'm like, all right, I know how I am with gummies. I've also seen cash in situations with gummies, and I'm like, I don't wanna be like you. I'ma take half of this. Here you eat the rest of it. My man is a trooper because he was just like, I'm straight.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:27

Those things were strong.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:28

We do this thing where like if one of us drives to the event, the other one's driving back. Sounds like he drove to the event. I broke for the shit. Because I got in the box, and I think one of, oh, Dario, one of his friends was like saying bye. So he's like, Oh, pull up where Dario is. I'm like, where's Dario part? And I'm not telling Cash yet that I'm like, what the fuck? I have no idea what's going on. I feel like I have astigmatism right now. Everything looks like it's stretched out. I'm I'm really, really fucked. So I'm pretending I'm good. And I'm like, if I pretend I'm good, I will be good. So I'm just driving hella slow. He's knocking his danger because he's high as hell. And I'm like, is this the turn? And he's like, no, it's not the turn. And I'm like, is this the turn? No, it's not the turn. Alright, fine. We go see Dario. I'm in this gravel parking lot, and like there's cars parked in front of me and behind me, and my car is just like this. And they're just talking in the window, and I'm getting paranoid. I'm like, please finish this conversation. Person behind me wants to park. I have to hurry up. And then I start trying to like turn around and I'm like, babe, I cannot drive.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:36

Every time someone pulled into the same parking lot as us two, we were like that same paranoia. Like, they probably weren't paying attention at all, but we were like, there's so many people around us.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:45

I'm looking over my shoulder, I said, babe, I can't drive. He's like, Oh, you can't drive. No, I'm I'm extremely tired. I can't. And then the zombies thing, we went in there. Horrible experience.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

I I still have no idea where it is.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:59

Right, right. It's it's actually like right around the corner from the TAC lands.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

Which is so sad because we actually went around the corner.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:07

It's right there. So we're in the piece of the. Number one, I don't ever feel misplaced and displaced about my style. Like my style, my style, I dress how I want to dress. But uh, the younger people they follow certain trends and whatnot. So we're just in this very trendy hip place with these hip people in their hip clothes, and I'm just like here in this fuzzy hat, and I'm like, I got like a fucking uh one of them tote bags on. I see, I'm trying to remember what you were wearing then candles and stuff and cookies and stuff.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:37

Oh, cause well, because they gave her a bunch of freaks too Taylor, bro.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:41

Yeah, take all this shit. And I'm like just carrying my bag and this red, I just got all mad colors, and I feel mad awkward, and I'm like, oh my god, I look so fucking stupid. I don't want to be in here, and Cash is just standing there like chilling off, probably, because that's just who he is. Like and he just orders the food, and this is where I had the problem. I was hungry, but not hungry. And we get the pizza, we get in the car, cash is like smashing it. I opened this, the pizza is this big, and I was like, Yeah, they're huge. How am I supposed to eat that? I ate three bites of it, and he's like, You don't want that?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:18

I'm like, But that's the other thing. I was almost so high, but so hungry, but I was like, it's almost one of those hives where I don't know if I can actually smell the cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:35

I see my eye, I don't know where I am, I'm on my mom, and then on top of that, I live outside of Charlotte. So like I'm like 40 minutes from Charlotte. And it's okay, because like I don't want to pay half a million dollars for it.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

True that. But also Sometimes when you're trying to go home, horrible.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:59

I told my baby, for I will do whatever you want. Please do drive us home.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:04

I cannot because that 40 minutes would have seemed like three hours.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:08

A straight shot with no street lights, bro. We would have died. Like we would have ended up in a ditch, very injured. Good decision. I'm so glad that he will like he hates driving, like, because he always driving, but good decision. Like whatever meal you want, I will cook it. Wherever you want to go, I will drive you, I'll take you on a date. Please just drive as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

Same thing. So I do most of the driving generally, but like I know there are times that she will drive if I need her to, like, ride or die. Usually she's got the stronger sense in those situations. Or or used to have also a bigger tolerance than me. So she's like, if ever needed, I can probably drive and be fine. That night, I didn't even get to ask the question. We're in the car, and I turned to go ask it. And before I even opened my two lips, she was like, I ain't driving home.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:12

Oh man. I don't recommend it. And the fact that that man said, Oh cheap for 20 milligrams, sir. Sir, we can't be making these kinds of mistakes.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:23

But the moral of the story, kids, do not do what we did. No, a, don't drive home. No, but B, don't take shit you don't know what it is, and throw it down your gullet just that fast.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:34

Don't do it. He did work there though. I will confirm that. He he was an employee of the lounge. It was just it was a little hanging.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

In the moment, like we were just in the moment, and like we were so excited to be there. We're we don't go out a lot. And so to get out on a date, A, B, to come support you and listen to cool music and hang out with people that we've some of the people we've met a couple times, so we're like, we'll know we'll have a good vibe.

unknown 1:19:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:02

Um and it was such a fun time until right at the very end when all of that went out. And I'm just like, we were so caught up in the moment that it just kind of happened, and we were just excited, and then kind of forgot our, you know, what we should or shouldn't be doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:24

Forgot the rules that we tell everyone every time.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:27

Almost every show we mentioned, don't do that. Oh, oh, out like a log, baby, light, however you want to phrase the metaphor, we were out like all of them.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:39

A log, a baby on a log with a light on.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:43

Like dunzo. After we plowed through food when we got home.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:48

That's what we need to put in the in the chat, GPT. A baby on a lug with a light on.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:56

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:58

Honestly. Lessons were learned that.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:03

We'll see. I'm sure it'll happen again at some point in my life.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:08

We all make our mistakes from time to time.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:10

They will keep involving me in events that happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:13

I was saying, I may second guess coming to one of your events sometime soon. No, those are fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:18

They are fun. My events are fun. They are fun. And if they are curated by my baby, they're always going to have indulgences. Particular in indulgence. It's always going to be there.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:34

And that's the thing. So the particular place we were at, um, they have a thing where they give a free pre-roll to anyone, I think, when you spend$20 anyway. Um, and so that's what they were giving out for the event. I don't know what what's in it, but you assume when you get something for free, it's not gonna be bad, but it might not be the best. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I don't know what that shit was, but that was a fantastic pre-roll in and of its own without adding any of the other stuff on top of it.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:00

That has happened to us twice. There was another event we did. That one was actually uh curated by my homegirl Michaela, but there was another one we did where they gave out something called Dog Walker, and they gave everyone for free. And I was like, okay, well, I don't need it. I'm not telling you, I don't know what's in here. Here he is, it's like something that where they call it a dog walker because if you start it when you go with your dog, it's short. Yeah. By the time they done with the wall, you're done with it. So guys smoked it, he said when when he either on, he's either on one when he says baby like that, like what? Like, cause he is a he's a smoker. Yeah, like he rolls up all the time. Like, if you hear Cash, Cash was quite he's pranking, that's awesome. He was zooted with that dog walker, and actually it was like maybe maybe like from here on my pinky to here. Wow, that's how big it was.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:13

Damn, that's really short. That must have been very high end.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:16

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I forgot the name of that company too. It was just a table at Comemark. Like, here, add one.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:24

Yeah, you live and you learn. I love it. But on that note, sadly, we are getting very close to at time, and it didn't even feel like it because this time has flown by so fast with your conversation. But um, before we get into the business end of wrapping up, one of the things we've been trying to do every episode is sort of a little, not necessarily a testimonial, but with everything going on with the ban on hemp potentially going into full effect this upcoming November, and we're involving ourselves in as much as that as we can to help do our part with our forum of pushing that needle to prevent that from actually happening. And so we just like to ask and hear if there's anything you want to say from your perspective and point of view as to why hemp and cannabis, when used properly, is so important to today's culture and society, or just you personally, your tribe personally, whatever, however you see it being used, like why is this something as a society we we need to help preserve?

SPEAKER_06 1:23:33

As an herbalist, I'm gonna tell you like a certified herbalist, herbs in general, like natural medicine, are important because Western medicine has just with our asses. We know that big karma is just a compliment. It's not it's not helping anybody. I have a friend told me she was stressed out, anxious, couldn't sleep, she doesn't indulge anymore very often. I told her, I'm like, yo, indulge, you know, use magnesium, you know, use uh valerium. These are things that are going to help your body naturally produce melatonin so you can sleep. You don't need any of that like we don't need any of that. And the ban on him, like when I see it affecting a lot of my friends, a lot of my homies work is dispensary. That's whack to me. And then on top of that, if we we're going into like the deeper context of it, if you're getting what you're getting off the street, um versus in a dispensary, this is a higher chance to to imprison people for no reason. Like, and uh you know, I have a black son, you know, I have a b uh I have a black man, and it even goes further than than being black, but we just know how uneven that feels.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:55

That's a nice way to say it.

SPEAKER_06 1:24:56

Yeah, it's uneven, it's very uneven. It's it's just why do that? Like, we know why uh open dispensaries in the first place say, Oh, you know what? Well, we need to make money off of it. We need to capitalize off of it in some way, shape, or form, and now you're reneging that so you can make more money off the prison systems or control whatever it is that you need to control again. My mom benefited so much from C B D um because her her wrist touched me, she crushed a lot and she's getting older. Like when she started smoking, she would just do like a little one-hitter from from a pipe. Um, and it helped her immensely. She's like, Yeah, like I use it for my pain. I found my mom going to the dispensary getting creams and stuff like that. I never thought that I would ever see her do that. But for it to help that much, and she's not in pain, you are taking that away from thousands, millions of elderly people, people with chronic pain from cancer, chemotherapy. Like it goes very, very deep, and it's in all aspects of life. I'm not really at all, even though I'm not like a big indulger, I'm not I'm totally against it. Fuck that Cheeto.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:09

And that's the thing to your point. You don't have to be a big indulger, and that's part of the stigma we're also trying to help change there. Is it's yes, recreation is a huge part of it, but it doesn't have to be. It's there's so much medicinally happening, and you don't have to overindulge. I mean, a lot of people that take it microdose just as needed. One of the things that got me sold on it very early on um after the 2018 Farm Bill, we were at a local shop, and the first thing I ever tried was just a CBD um self because I used to have a wrist problem from working at a desk. They they call it like mouse wrist or it's something stupid like that. But you I used this stuff for like two weeks and I haven't had that pain ever since. And this is now six years ago, yeah. You know, so there is a lot playing into all of it as to why it is so important to so many people. It's the jobs like you mentioned, it's the seniors. I can't picture my parents going into a dispensary, but at the same time, I tell my mom every time I see her, you need to get into this stuff for your pain or your stress, your high anxiety. Like there's a lot at stake if this thing passes.

SPEAKER_06 1:27:26

It's a huge part of the economy. I personally don't understand it as far as like uh economically like uh like finances you're making so much money off of it. It's a billion dollar industry. Oh, immediately done so much for the economy why for what matter here hit this. Yeah, because that's what you need. At that point, that like you are not indulging, you have no idea how it would even some things out. Yeah, it would definitely even some things out if you can get that man to indulge.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:00

Really interesting lately since the the bill was signed, even though it's not in effect, seeing some of the the stuff on social media about all the facts surrounding hemp and cannabis, and it's like to the point where like, okay, George Washington grew hemp because it's used for so many things, not even just what we're talking about here. And so it's like, okay, your founding father and first president supported it and grew it and sold it and all this, but like now we're like, we gotta ban it. Yeah, I don't make it make sense.

SPEAKER_06 1:28:29

And it doesn't, not so much. That the point here, which is heavily about we're thinking about, not even thinking about the point of coundry in America. They everything that they have done within the last like four years is just chaotic and evil. You're doing too much. Like, let people have something that brings them down and and not bring them down in like a I mean, you got places where like what what is it? Methadone is is legal, like what are we doing? It's turning people into zombies, like people are like doing bathsalts and shit and we're like, oh yeah, let's put them on the news because they're eating things to us. This is a good, this is a good story. No, but tomorrow it's weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:14

Sometimes I forget that happened.

SPEAKER_06 1:29:16

I'm like that one. Yeah, I've never seen a bunch of stoners. No, no, nothing at all. No, maybe something stupid, but nothing insane. Like probably funny, but not dangerous. It's gonna be slightly dangerous, but I'm talking about like maybe like stubbing your toe on the listen.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:38

The most dangerous thing I have done high is just try to get a bowl out of my cupboard.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:49

Like took an hour.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:51

I used my air fryer, shouldn't have, but did.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:58

I don't want to go anywhere, so I'm not okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:03

You're kind of just in this mode, very and you could be very focused, and even speaking on like anxiety or whatnot. People like myself who have dealt with anxiety, that's how I regulate it when I was younger. It's like I'm growing up.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:20

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:21

I'm not trying to avoid it, but it's definitely gonna mellow me out. I'm sorry, America.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:28

But the good news is, and I'm gonna keep saying this, well, by the time it airs, there could even be an update to this, but there is currently, um, we talked about this last episode. It's not a bill on paper yet, but there is something in in process to be presented that will, if if signed and passed by everybody and becomes a bill, would delay the date by three more years. So that gives people the time to iron out how are we gonna regulate this so that everybody is satisfied. Yes. And that should hopefully be enough time to push that needle. So we're keeping our fingers crossed. Obviously, we'll we'll always give updates on the show as they come. Again, everything's two months delayed. So by the time this airs, we don't even know what the updates could be by then. But um, we're we're we're trying to do our part just to keep sharing it, but also give these testimonials. So thank you for saying everything you said there because these conversations are what's gonna help shed that light as to why we all enjoy these products and this plant the ways we do. Um, and it's not just about getting high. So with that very serious tone, we are now going to wrap up the show because we are we are definitely at time. We might even be a little over time, but I don't care because that happens when we have good conversations. Yes, indeed. But the last thing we're gonna do is just tell all of our listeners every place they can find you. What are all your socials, your websites, anything you want to tout at this point that could be coming up? Now's your time to put it all out so everybody can come find you.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:05

So if you do want to find my music, my name is Doug N-A-N-I-L-A-Y-I-L double A. And that is on everything. Like, you can find me on Facebook under that. Preferably not. I hate Facebook.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:20

I hate meta.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:21

I found you on Facebook, so I I I just yeah, I just accepted that from I was like, I'm gonna expect any favorite. So I was like, I know this is like any anywhere you want to find me, preferably YouTube and TikTok because that's where I'm trying to send everybody. And I just built the website like two days ago. Oh, dope. So it's not finished, it's not ready to go, but it will be ready to go for uh for my for my channel.

SPEAKER_01 1:32:46

There you go. So there you go. Look her up, follow her, find her, listen to her music, look at the calendars because if there is a live something going on, trust me, you want to pull up to that spot. But most importantly, most importantly, you really want to go find that SoundCloud account.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:05

Yeah, the secret music that I don't a lot of people know about. Definitely find that SoundCloud.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:13

So I just want to thank you, honestly, for coming and doing the show. Um, it was a no-brainer to have you on. It was a no-brainer to reschedule when we had to do the minor pivot. Um I have nothing else to say other than just thank you for being on our show. It's been a great conversation. Anything lastly you would like to say just to wrap up?

SPEAKER_06 1:33:33

Thank y'all for having me. I I always like I I used to dread performing and and podcasts and shows and anything that has nothing to do with the studio, but um because it's usually like very I don't know, it's a feeling about it. It's too much, too much in my face. Um, but this has genuinely been like a good conversation and it feels like homey. I feel very welcome. So thank you for giving me that feeling. I didn't say I started this off of gratitude, so it's good things.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:05

Yeah, it was probably a good choice to leave the bedroom and build the studio in the living room. The more it makes people feel so much more comfortable, the more we think about it, absolutely. Mr. Buds. If we're continuing the hierarchy here, what would you like to say to wrap this episode?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:24

Another awesome show. Every guest is even better than the last. And uh can't wait to see how the song wraps up. How many more shows do we got? Like four, three more?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:35

Uh, we've got two more left in this season. So we got one more after this, and then our season finale to wrap it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:43

Well, I think it's gonna be uh in it's already been an incredible season, man. I can't wait to see how we wrap it up towards the end.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:49

And you haven't actually seen any of it yet, because I did all the video editing so far and haven't shown you any parts of it other than the random clips we put on Instagram to tease the other side.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:59

And then I'm I'll probably keep slipping further and further to the left of the couch. So I'm probably not in any.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:05

No, no, you've been you've been pretty good with staying. Once I gave you the direction of you gotta stay this side of the crack.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

I'm but I'm right on it. I'm right on it, brother. It's the way I live my life, my friend. It's the way I live my life.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:18

On the crack. You live on the crack of life.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:22

Yes, I do. Yes, I do, brother.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:26

Well, I have nothing to say following both of you, other than thank you, everybody, for tuning into vinyl high. This is the podcast where the grooveviest tunes turn into the craziest conversations. We hope you've enjoyed this auditory journey with us. Remember, stay tuned, stay mellow, and always keep your vinyl vibes. Until next time, keep reaching for the Sonic Sky and always stay vinally high. You've been tuned in to the late night groove of the vinyl high podcast. And tonight's vibe was brought to you by Hey Binks, the official beverage additive of season four.