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EP:173 Behind the mic feuds are changing how we view sports and entertainment

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DJ Black Magic and NYC Boom dive into high-profile media conflicts, exploring the dynamics of public feuds in radio and sports entertainment.

• Jess Hilarious's public meltdown regarding The Breakfast Club and her on-air segment "Jess with the Mess"
• The unprofessional nature of airing grievances on social media rather than addressing issues privately
• How Jess's behavior represents a common pattern of holding in frustrations until exploding publicly
• The business perspective that controversy often benefits media platforms by increasing viewership
• LeBron James's calculated confrontation with ESPN's Stephen A. Smith over comments about his son Bronny
• LeBron's strategic decision to discuss the incident on Pat McAfee's show instead of "First Take"
• The changing power dynamics between athletes and sports commentators in the social media era
• Discussion about Bronny James's NBA readiness and the complexities of nepotism in professional sports
• The double standard of commentators who dish out harsh criticism but struggle to receive it
• Analysis of what constitutes "pettiness" versus smart media strategy in high-profile conflicts

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Speaker 1:

You are listening to the Double A Club and this is your host, ny Boom, and my co-host, big Daz. We'll be talking about trending topics and healthcare and basically, just as a disclaimer just to let the listeners know that this is just basically on our opinions and speculations and I hope you guys enjoy the show. Let's start off and kick off with our first topic. This is NYC Boom, coming from the Double A Club. You can catch us on Spotify, amazon music, apple podcast, um I heart radio podcast or whatever um streaming platform you use to um listen to your podcast, and also you can catch us on youtube doing some of these uh web series that we have. Um. I have a special guest with me dj black Magic. Go, introduce how you doing. How you doing.

Speaker 2:

Great, you can see he's still got the club atmosphere in the background. Dude, I keep the club atmosphere.

Speaker 1:

You should already know how it is. So I brought you on today because I want you to talk about this topic that's been going super viral within the last week. Actually, it started last week or maybe 10 days ago with the comedian Jess Hilarious and her issues with the members from the Breakfast Club and she just to a little little rundown she had. She had a meltdown. She got on live stream on her instagram account or something, I don't know what it was. It was a live stream and she literally let the people on her live stream get too much information on the business aspect behind the scenes of the show and how she feels about the show and certain people on the show.

Speaker 1:

So and you know me, I felt that that was super unprofessional. She shouldn't have done that on live TV. I mean, like I don't have the experience that they have to be on this national televised, even radio, platform because they're on YouTube and they're on the radio. I don't have that experience, but I do have experience of knowing how to get fired and that's one way to get fired. I have plenty of experience on how to get fired and I know what Jess Hilarious did will get you fired.

Speaker 2:

It's funny because it'll get you fired in a normal job. But I think the reason why she's able to get away with one it pissed envy off. I don't think that was playing around. It really pissed envy off, um, but she got away with it because it brought more eyes to the station. It's almost like that Eric Bischoff thing Controversy creates cash, right. That's true especially in media. I mean, look at everything that's going on today. You get somebody to get eyes on you. Put it this way Even look at social media. What do they say? Negative is just as good as positive, right? Because it's got people with eyes on you. I understood Jess Hilarious's point right. My problem with Jess Hilarious and it's been that way through a while and out. It's been that way. I don't know if you realize you ever heard of the comedian Country Wayne?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, she used to date country Wayne, yes, yes, and she has beef with uh, awesome.

Speaker 2:

Jeffrey Holcomb Holcomb, but, but that, no, no, corey Holcomb, but Corey Holcomb. But the thing is, corey Holcomb got beef with everybody and they're they're positively the same type of character. Yeah, my thing with her is this is something that you could have mentioned she's one of those that holds in and we've had friends like this growing up right, where something's bothering somebody, they don't say something and then at the last minute, here they come and they're like oh, but you said this, said this and that. All right, but I said that two weeks ago you was laughing and joking about it. Now today you upset and you want to fight about it. You understand, that's her. The reason why I said she won't get fired behind it is because look at what we're doing right now.

Speaker 2:

People are making podcasts. Behind it it's made news stories, so everybody wants to see what's going on with Power 105 right now. Now I listen to her point. I believe her point. I understand her point. Her points were kind of stupid. Well, no, no, they were. I'm not going to say they were stupid, they made sense. But the point was, when you saw it was a problem, why you didn't say anything.

Speaker 1:

All right, which point was it? Because, like I remember one of her points, so she brought the girl in.

Speaker 2:

She brought lauren in right. Yes, she brought her. So she said I'm going to be out. I need somebody to be able to do my part. Yes was on maternity leave.

Speaker 1:

Yes, she was on maternity leave. So she was on maternity leave.

Speaker 2:

Her thing is. I think a lot of this, and I hate to use female emotions, but I think a lot of this postpartum. You know where's my career? Is she going to be taking my spot? But she didn't ask. No one. Then you understand what I'm saying. You assumed so I come back and she's still ask. No one there. You understand what I'm saying. You assumed so I come back and she's still here.

Speaker 2:

Well, what was you expecting you to walk in the door and us just to kick her out, when you know she's getting us some listeners too, so why not? We use the both of you now? Should somebody else have had that conversation with jess? Yes, but no one knows it bothers Jess, until Jess gets on live and has a rant. You had an open platform. She could have said that shit on the radio. Well, they actually did. No after the fact, yeah, after the fact, but you could have said it during. You know what I mean. And you're worried Now. Granted, she still is doing Jess Mess or Mess to Jess, whatever that is, and she felt like, okay, well, if you're gonna have her do it, let's change the name.

Speaker 1:

But they that that's, that's what was like the dumbest in the world like no, I think it's her name. It's her name, but still, but I'm just saying still. A lot of things are a lot of people's names, and some people cover it a little bit better. Just leave it there, because that makes you know and I was losing your job Leave.

Speaker 2:

She doesn't think she's going to lose the job, and if she does, she's going to take it with her. But she made some valid points, like if you're going to have her do that, then just rename it. You know what I mean. I'll put it this way my name is my brain.

Speaker 1:

If it's a good name, it's a good name.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but my name is my brain, but no my name, is my brain right?

Speaker 1:

That's 97 and breakfast club. That's not. That's not her brain.

Speaker 2:

Well, that, that is because that was her name they were using.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's not her friend, so they could have changed it to anything.

Speaker 2:

The problem was they're saying they're not going to change it. They're saying that they wasn't going to stop her from doing it. What she was saying was you know, it's messy. It's almost like come on, I've had black magic for as long as you've known me. I've had that since the eighth grade. Once I got on social media and realized there's a Black Magic in Texas. There's a Black Magic kid. That's still my name, right? It's always linked now 69, to my name, which you know I've had for years too. Right, it's tatted on my arm. I'm not going to go away from that brand.

Speaker 2:

So if I produce the show, let's say me and you, we do a podcast, right, and we call it Wombat and Magic from the whole Wombat thing years ago, right? So we did that as Wombat and Magic. And then you would have turned around and get Aldo to do this and you're still calling it Wombat and Magic. No, you change it. That's what I built. Magic is the name I built. You see where I'm coming from. So I understand. But they wasn't stopping her from doing that. I think they wanted them both on the show, but as as as a station, what they needed to do was say, hey, now that we see what she can do and what you could do. Let's do this. You do just the mess, you do the news or you do. You know what I mean. Now they got them both on there doing dumb stuff and they don't even and like I said, I don't even listen to them like that yeah, me either, but this one thing, it's.

Speaker 1:

It looks petty right, it's super petty bro but it's a petty radio station show.

Speaker 2:

The names your head guy that tells you it's petty, right there. And and dj envy. I think envy, this petty, I think envy, could look. You gotta remember envy was doing shows from hot 97 and all that. That show and I hate to say it is carried by charlamagne. Yeah, it is, it's carried by charlamagne. He says the most ridiculous stuff. You know everybody who wanted to punch somebody, it's always Charlemagne. Fredro was gonna beat the hell out of him. Charlemagne Birdman, charlemagne Nelly, charlemagne. You know what I mean. So he is the character on that show and that's why I said they're not gonna fire. She don't want to be fired but yes, she was real petty in her ring.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's the thing that gets me. And then with, uh, with, with the whole, just with, just with the mess um segment. I mean, like I see what you're talking about, but I don't agree, because I mean, even if lauren's doing it, leave it there, because that's the name, that's, that's it. You know what I'm saying? And because, look at, what you're saying.

Speaker 2:

look's the name.

Speaker 1:

That's it, you know what I'm saying, because look at what you're saying.

Speaker 2:

Look at the name, it's Jess.

Speaker 1:

Yes and Jess with the mess.

Speaker 2:

If Jess not giving you the mess, then make it Lauren with the mess or Lauren with the Lauren with the lyrics Lauren with the news or something like that, because it is her name, or they could have just incorporating them both.

Speaker 1:

incorporated, both of them doing the mess.

Speaker 2:

But see, that's the thing. I get her point on that because that is her thing. That's literally her thing. Everybody was reading the news, right? No one was doing it in the style and the way Jess Hilarious did it. I have to give her that 100%. She made it messy, so it's Jess with the mess. If you're just reading the news and giving people information, then call it Lauren's Updates. You know what I mean. You can't put it this way. You can't have a Wendy Williams type vibe show and then turn around and Wendy leaves and you still call it the Wendy Williams show. Well, that's kind of how Jess feels with Jess, with the Mets.

Speaker 1:

But here's the thing. They had the same thing with Angela Yee.

Speaker 2:

No, but they didn't call it. Jess with the Mets.

Speaker 1:

No, they didn't call it Jess with the Mets, but they had the same thing, but Angela Yee just read the news. But if Angela Yee was still on that show and let's say example, just with the mess, came in and did her news updates, I don't think, angela, he would have been flipping out. Let's change the name.

Speaker 2:

She would have if it was called ye's news.

Speaker 1:

I think yeah, I'm saying I don't know, nobody had nothing to do.

Speaker 2:

It had nothing to do with her name. But if it was called ye's news, you know I mean, she would not. It was called Yeez News, you know what I mean? She would not have said it. Let's say it's called Yee Me right, or Yee Wee, and then Jess comes and starts doing it and Yee is right there, but Jess is doing her what you call it. That's like me and you Put it this way. Why is this called the Double A Podcast?

Speaker 1:

Why is it called the Double A Podcast? Because it's a minor league podcast, like Double A, like baseball. But that's not a play on your name. Yes, it is, and my brother's name, okay.

Speaker 2:

So I'm not changing the name Because I know the reason. But yeah, but now if I took it over and still called it double a, that wouldn't offend you.

Speaker 1:

No why would it okay, that's what I'm saying like, why would it offend me? You're saying like, like, like. There's many people who carry on like a tradition, right, carry on a person's name or or a show, or maybe, uh, an article or maybe an event or something, and they carry on this name because they're, they're, they're, um, they're saluting the past or the person who brought it. You saying again, with wrestling, how many times have wrestlers, um, famous wrestlers, taken over a previous wrestler's name because it was given to him, or a move, or something?

Speaker 2:

like that. Only if they're keeping the secret is there's not a wrestling rick flair got nature boy.

Speaker 1:

Everybody knows why? Well, it's nature boy rick flair was never his name.

Speaker 2:

Nature Boy is just a title, right? Yeah, but that was given to him by Nature Boy's buddy. No, he took it.

Speaker 1:

No, he wouldn't give it to him. It was given Nature.

Speaker 2:

Boy was driving it. He didn't like it. There was a documentary on it. I know Nature Boy didn't like it.

Speaker 1:

And then just wrestling moves and stuff like that holds, but that's different.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'll put it this way Name one show that kept a person's name Right. So Look at the Arsenio Hall show. Look at the Steve Harvey show. Wendy Williams, rachel Ray it is because that's their brand, but it's not the same. So if I had a segment On Jimmy Kimmel, rachel Ray, it is because that's their brand, but it's not the same. So if I had a segment on Jimmy Kimmel, right, and I called it Magic's Melee, where I turn around and I ask and Jimmy Kimmel, don't take my idea if you ain't going to hire me, anyway, magic's Melee, where I go and I ask people ridiculous questions just to get their reply Right, and then they let me go from the show. I leave the show. I'm not continuing for them to do magic's melee, I'm looking for them to rename it. Somebody else is doing it. I'm looking for them to rename it because that is okay, here's the here's, here's the thing.

Speaker 1:

If you leave completely, you're not coming back, you're fired. Quick, let go. Yes, I understand they will change the name and, for example, like Steve Wilkes, steve Wilkes was doing the show under Spring and then, when Springer stopped, he did his own show under his own name. So I understand if you leave or then, but even if you don't, if you're working on the show, you don't want to leave.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, let me finish. But in this show that we're talking about the Breakfast Club, that whole segment, just with the mess One, I guarantee you she didn't even think about that. Just with the mess one. I guarantee you she didn't even think about that. That was probably the people at that station at the show, who probably was trying to figure out for dangle what's the best name, how to call it this never but, and just kind of continue what angela, he was doing before, but in jess's format. Okay, so that's not her thought, that's not her thing, that's not her. Let's get that straight, because that has to be approved from people from that company. Second, they're working together. She ain't leave. So to incorporate this together would have probably been a better thing and that's what most people would do. I'm telling you right now angela yee would have never done that, but I can promise you angela yee would have spoke up and that's why I'm saying jess hilarious got petty.

Speaker 2:

but she would have never done that. But I can promise you, Angela Yee would have spoke up and that's why I'm saying Jess Hilarious got petty.

Speaker 1:

But she would have spoken up on the side, she would have spoken up in the back.

Speaker 2:

No, because, angela Yee, we would have never knew oh we didn't. We didn't know that. We didn't even know why. Well, look when Angela Yee left Power 105. No, it's Hot 97.

Speaker 1:

No, she was.

Speaker 2:

Power 105 no.

Speaker 1:

Breakfast Club is Hot. 97, it's 105.

Speaker 2:

Is it 105? Yes, I thought it was Hot. 95, 97 is Ebro in the morning.

Speaker 1:

Oh fuck, Okay, I haven't been to New York for a while. Keep going.

Speaker 2:

Oh, me neither, yeah, so I just I watch. I watch the Breakfast Club every once in a while, yeah, and when Angela Yee left, she spoke a lot about it. You know what I mean. But the way Angela Yee left, she left in style though. Yeah, she prepared herself. But as far as Jess, I think Jess is one of those people that's always in her feelings If you look at anything, and even, like they said, she was like well, you see what the people are saying in the comments, and that's where I agree with Envy. Envy's thing was I don't fuck about people in comments, bro.

Speaker 1:

I think you just got caught off because you're using too much foul language.

Speaker 2:

Somebody's trying to call me Pardon my language, I'm sorry, but basically you know he's like I don't care about what those people have to say online. And I got that and his thing that really bothered him. What I truly understood was he said said I go back with you long ways, yeah, which is you know kind of like how me and you go back. We've been friends since kids, since teenagers. You understand I'm saying I've, I've moved, I've lived in your house. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So if you couldn't come to me About something that bothered you and you went online and started saying, well, magic did this, magic did that and this was some punk. The next thing I'm going to be like is, bro, you couldn't come to me. You couldn't come. You see me everyday. You couldn't come to me and say this is bothering you. Before you went online.

Speaker 2:

But she felt like she had to explain to people who don't matter. That's the problem with social media. Okay, yeah, when you got explained to people and it don't matter, you know what I mean. They're not gonna pay you, they're no, they're not the ones who got to see you after it. So then you walk in there the next morning and Envy's just like, bro, what was that about? And now we got to talk about it, because now I can't stay quiet.

Speaker 2:

But he did it the right way, because he could have went and said, well, I'm going to reply back on the internet. No, this is my show. If it's going to come out, then we're going to get some views from my show. Let's talk about it Now. Everybody's listening to Power 105 because they want to hear what does Envy have to say. And I'm going to be honest with you. I was like, oh, they're just looking for Nah, he was visibly that when you showed me that he was visibly, when he got up and said I'm gonna go get I never heard a real man say this, but he said I'm gonna go get some sparkling water.

Speaker 1:

You did not just say that live, live on air, I'm gonna go get some sparkling water oh my god, I'm not even gonna go there, because only somebody like DJ Envy would go for so I love Envy though I love Envy.

Speaker 2:

I heard he's a complete. He came out here Like DJ envy would go for for. So I love them. Be, though I love them, be my bro. He's a complete. He came out here and he did a show DJ that one of the spots out here and one of my DJs was Working with him, and they said he literally came in, did his little spot act like he, you know, didn't you know want to speak to anybody, and that's, that's secondhand. But I believe if he's somebody's friend, he ain't going to do them like that. And I think that really, really it just it wasn't even about the show at that point. It was about hey, we're cool, and you went on the internet and did this, and then you walk in here the next day, what are you looking for? At that point then you'd be like but why? You know what I mean. So he let her do her grievances. But yeah, you're right, it burns a bridge.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and that's that's the biggest thing is that it does burn bridge. And you know, I think they um, now, since we're talking about it days after, they've been doing damage control on it like I don't know if noticed, but they played, uh, they did, like a, a spin-off of a brandy song, like I'm out for your job or some shit like that, trying to play it off like nothing's happening.

Speaker 1:

this is almost kind of like this was planned in a way, and now we got this set up and it's just, it's just damage control and everything. And then even, like um, they've been interviewing angela about it and she's been telling people information that I guess no one knew until now that they were planning on having multiple, more than three people anywhere on the show. So she, kind of lauren, just fell there at later than she should have been well, what they should have done, too, is planned it a little better.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they should have you got, and that's why I said it's on both ends, so it's definitely for the professional from the professional aspect and from the business aspect, from the company itself, is definitely on them.

Speaker 1:

You're trying to fit people in. Be a mess because it's shit. You report just with the mess.

Speaker 2:

Don't become the mess even like, uh, when you get the chance, go back and follow her, fall out with wild and out and stuff like that, like she's always just you know what I mean, and it's it's always mess, it's always messy I don't even know if you heard, if you know about about this, but I think she had a show in Chicago.

Speaker 1:

I don't know when it was. It was a couple months ago, last year, whatever I don't know the date, but this is all I know is that she had a show in Chicago and she fucking bombed Right. She bombed so bad that the people that were sitting in the stands were going to the people. Like you know, when you go to a comedy club, the waiters and the bartenders, the people that come to your table, they serve you and all that yeah, they were asking them for their money back. They didn't even go to the front to get their money back. They were like yo, give me my money back. Right now I'm not sitting for the bullshit.

Speaker 2:

I don't think she's. First of all, I don't think she's comedian material. She's not that funny and that's not hopping on her. Everybody's hustle is their hustle, right, and she's at a better place than I am right now, so I'm not trying to knock her, and let me just say that I'm not trying to knock her. But I used to watch her on the country wayne skits right and country wayne is funny, but I don't think he's the funniest comedian right. He's a good writer. He's good for these skits.

Speaker 2:

Yeah right, that's, that's his lane. But then I saw his comedy special and I was like, but? But then I saw his comedy special and I was like, but I'm hooked on his skits, right. So who am I to talk? Every day I wake up and I'm trying to see, all right, what happened with Amber and Anthony and Shayla, and so you know country, when you got a pop in, but they, they were doing the skits she's his ex, they fell out. You know what I mean? Wilding out that fell out. And I don't, I don't think you know. Just, certain people Are not meant to do certain things. Now I'll give you a great example. Matt Rife Is the funniest Off the head person. You know, we always want to say he's the funniest off the head, white boy, he's good, he's funny. Off the head, he's funny. But here's the he's funny. Oh, no, off the head. Yeah, probably it's funny, but here's the problem he's not a joke Teller.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he can't. Yeah, I know what you're trying. He tells jokes. He tells jokes when crowd work. He improvise, he's a crowd, so I can't he can't format For comedy I watched he needs experience. I he can't format. A whole segment for comedy.

Speaker 2:

I watched.

Speaker 1:

But he needs experience.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's experience. I just think that he's Naturally funny, right, he could pick apart anything and that's the funniest thing about him. So he could pick. And that's why social media was so great to him. That's why Wild N Out was so great to him, because he's quick, off the top of the head very quick, so you know these clips that they show. You're just like, oh my god, he's amazingly funny. I can't wait to go see him. Then he does a Netflix special and my girl loves Matt right, loves him. Didn't think there was nothing he could do wrong.

Speaker 1:

So he did that damn comedy special. I didn't see it, so I don't know.

Speaker 2:

It's on Netflix, check it out. What's the other guy? The big fat black guy? If you see him on Facebook, he's always in the what you call it. He's hefty, a little bit light skin. Funny as hell, but I feel like he's going to be the same way he can go usually the left no, no, no, he's not on the, he's not on wilding out.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we just like, if you, if you ever scroll on facebook, you'll see him. He's a big. I forget what his name is. I actually started following him because his skits are funny, but it's not even skits, it's him at a comedy club. Oh.

Speaker 1:

I know who you're talking about. He looks like a big football player guy. Yes, yeah, he does the Blue Pills commercial.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he picks everybody apart, but I'm thinking, okay, now will his setup be like Matt Rife's? No, because you're funny for the crowd Doesn't necessarily mean that your whole show is funny. So once you start picking at the crowd, you don't have that Kevin Hart material. Yeah See, the only person who's good at that was Martin Lawrence. Martin Lawrence was, I could pick the crowd apart plus give you a great comedy session.

Speaker 2:

And there's a couple of people like that. Dl Hughley is not one of those people you want to heckle. He'll get you a body Plus. He's got a funny set and I just think that these guys are just you. You know these social media Guys Are funny Off the top, but don't have that and that's just Hilarious. You know she's funny because she's a little bit quick witted Not as well as them and she's, you know, like even from her Skin. She was always the raunchy one in it, but you know she's Keisha from the hood. For me that's it. She's just Keisha from the hood. You know you don't wanna play the Joneses With Keisha. She's retarded and she'll flip, she'll wild out and punch you in the face. That's just hilarious.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I just I mean I'm hoping that she doesn't. Yeah, so well, I just I just needed I I mean I'm hoping that she doesn't ruin Her her situation with Breakfast Club. I mean I know you said she's not gonna get fired but and she might not because of what happened, but guess what she did put one foot forward.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but to be forward she, yeah, but two feet forward. She look as bad as this is. She actually opened the door for them to fix the problem. So because even they had after you sent me that, I said, alright, let me just dig more into it, right, because I didn't want to have a piece of it before we talked about it. And then I wind up seeing a skit where she was trying to find lauren a man. Right, yes, I saw that one.

Speaker 2:

Okay asking all the questions yeah, but it was to show, all right, we're working together. And then people started joking are you just trying to find it, lauren? So you trying to find me, a man, so you can get me off the show. So now that little bit of tension. Yeah, it's working for them. People want to watch the breakfast cup now, because what's going to happen, you know.

Speaker 1:

But are they going to be good. But that's my whole argument. That's my whole entire argument that what she's doing now, what you just mentioned with the whole dating thing finding lauren a boyfriend right, that should have been done and she didn't have a man for it.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

She was just like no.

Speaker 2:

I'm just trying to see where your head's at. I know I know I was like that was the setup, because you see all my space. You're like so all right, so where's this guy? I got to try to get to believe in God. She's like no, I don't have him. I was just trying to see. You know what you were looking for.

Speaker 1:

But that's my argument, right? That's what I'm trying to say Is that that should have been done when she returned and she noticed that Lauren was kind of going to stay there. Like you should have tried to make it work Instead of go out and become the mess. I don't just Report the mess does and become the mess. I don't just report the mess does not become the mess.

Speaker 2:

I'm sticking to that, but I think she felt like she was. She felt like but she felt like she was a major part of the crew and I feel like but then the same sense, some of her grapes. When you get the chance, um, look up why Angela Yee Left the Breakfast Club right. I know Some of the gripes that Jess Hilarious has Is the same ones that Angela Yee had right, where you feel people are moving funny. So I'm not saying she didn't have the right to feel that way. My whole point was it didn't take social media For you to have to get that out, because you can go inside the office and flip out. Yo, I need to know what's going on, why this chick still here on my show. Is it a show?

Speaker 1:

I just, I just expect people, especially in those in those positions making that type of money, to be classy, because you don't want to lose that. You know what I'm saying. You don't want to lose that position. You don't want to lose that. You know what I'm saying. You don't want to lose that position. You don't want to lose that money.

Speaker 2:

She has a job because she's not classy. She has a job because she's ratchet. And I don't mean fully ratchet, but what I mean is they hired her because of who she is. That's why it's called Jess with the mess. So you know, whatever it's called, it's called that because of her personality. It's the same way why Charlemagne is hired it's because of you know what he says. He's a little bit off. You know now. And look Now he's more humble. Remember when Charlemagne first got in.

Speaker 1:

Oh lord, it was bad, and I think that's because he's been hanging with andy schultz, sure, I just, I just think it's no, because he's so big now he doesn't have to do it, but in the beginning he had to do that.

Speaker 2:

I have to make eyes look at me. How do I make him look at me? I'll say this. I'll say and look, some of us let's be honest with most of us feel how Charlemagne feels, but we wouldn't say it. Charlemagne just had enough gall to be like yo, this sounds wild, but I'm gonna say it anyway. You know what I mean. And now everybody's like ooh, you know. And then he's testing boundaries. That's why Birdman almost put one in him.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I saw that.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. That's why Fredro was really like look, I saw that. You know what I mean. That's why Fred was really like look, I'm not that one. And then why do you want to hit me? I'm just the host, cause you talking, foul out your mouth, you're a host, but we both men, and you can ask me a question and I get it. You trying to play me, though, now I have to smack, I'm going to have to smack fire from you and that's's, that's just messing with manhood. So now, at this point, he can make the little jokes or whatever, but you know, everybody's like charlemagne charlemagne. No one pays attention to him now, but now he's a brand, he's a different type of entity. So you got the breakfast club, you got this other podcast, you're doing Charlamagne's a brand now, but it took him to be that, to be this brand.

Speaker 1:

And I don't know if you are aware of this, but this is a rumor. He hired Lauren to, I think, do her own podcast or maybe be part of his podcast. I don't know, but he's hired her now because of the whole whole breakfast club team see, and he's gonna help her.

Speaker 2:

He's gonna help her make a bigger name for herself. That's what say I don't really see no fire in, because Just hilarious his name. First of all, her name is too big to be at the point where she's at. First of all, her name is too big to be at the point where she's at On the show. But it's paper, it's money, she's making dollars. So I get that this may be as popular as Jess Hilarious gets, and that's that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and I agree with you that I don't think she's going to get fired, but I think eyes are going to be closer to look at her now. Yeah, yeah, they're gonna watch her more careful.

Speaker 2:

don't let something like this happen again look, but you gotta look at who's been, who's been on this, this radio station, they all have that.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean, but not like that, not to that extent. I don't think I've never seen anything like that, not even, not even angie martinez that's because ain't nobody mess with angie.

Speaker 2:

No one messes with my baby.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, I'm just saying no one in her baby, not even she's a god yes in radio like her. Her amount of respect and radio. That's why she don't do the BS and that's why she can ask the questions that she asked. She grew up with all these people. You know what I mean. She grew up like I wouldn't be shocked if Angela I mean Angelique, yeah If Martinez turned around and said this week I have an interview with Jay-Z. No, like nobody can get an interview with Jay-Z. Nobody can get an interview with Jay-Z. She used to date him. She grew in the business with him. You know what I mean. So she can't do what a Jess Hilarious does. She can't do what a Charlemagne does, because she has that credibility amongst friends, these people are truly her friends. They respect her. No one can do what she does, I'm sorry. Amongst friends, these people are truly her friends. They respect her. No one can do what she does. I'm sorry. She's God mode. I've loved her since she started. I love her now. I put nobody on that plateau and radio.

Speaker 1:

You just can't and this is a great segue, because we're talking about this and let's start, because this, I mean this topic is done right. Jess is a mess, fuck it. I'm going to clearly say it Chill the fuck out, because you're like you're about to cross that yellow brick road For real. That's all I'm saying. You really do that shit again, do that shit again, do that shit again, jess, you're gonna be done.

Speaker 2:

I think it's. If it has a negative Light on a radio and this didn't have a negative light, it brought them more viewers.

Speaker 1:

One more, one more.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna to watch it because I think somebody's going to offer her something that may take her away from the show. We'll see you want to come here and do your own thing, but she's not going to make that type of money. She's not good by herself.

Speaker 1:

Talking about messy situations. I know you are a huge, huge, huge.

Speaker 2:

Laker fan. Huge, huge, huge Laker fan. Let's see what's there what? Let's see what's there what. Kobe's over there, kobe's jersey's over there. Don't play, bro, oh okay, okay.

Speaker 1:

I can't see it so.

Speaker 2:

And your man, lebron, is there, and I've never seen LeBron's not my guy, he's a Laker, so I support him. I support him. He's a Laker. You got to support him, bro. He brought us a championship, so I have to respect him.

Speaker 1:

So I've never seen anything like this in all my life, but a basketball player beefing with a reporter. I have I mean, I've never seen. Who have you seen done that? Kevin Gardner.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Gardner been beefing with who Stephen Eddy no.

Speaker 1:

They were friends. Listen.

Speaker 2:

Not only were they beefing. They went on each other's podcast and did their grievances Listen. Let me tell you why I don't have I I don't have a problem with these guys. First of all, these guys are very sentimental, but what has changed is the same thing. We said change for just hilarious social media, because there were days where these announcers talked about these basketball players and it was not a problem, right. But now you have social media, so they want to clap back.

Speaker 2:

First of all, I want to give LeBron kudos before I rip him down, because his level of petty, no matter what nobody says, as Stephen A has pointed out, lebron's level of petty is Worth the money he's making alone. Understand what. Forget to be approached even ain't cuz we gonna come back to that. He said all right, forget you. Because we're going to come back to that the fact that he said Alright, forget you, right. Not only am I not going to speak to you, I'm going to come on the station when you're the highest paid Sports Sports talker and I'm not going to go on your show, I'm going to go on the show Right after you, second highest, pat McAfee, and I'm not gonna go on your show.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna go on the show right now, Second as Pat McAfee but I'm gonna go on his show, which is right after your show About you on your own station. Tittiness that takes and how much clout you gotta be able to pull that off. Look, man, you can't have an argument with Stephen A Smith and say, yo, we want to put our grievances on Pat McAfee, because Stephen A Smith even said it. If he's got a problem with it, he can come on this podcast, he can come on First. Take, I ain't giving you no views, nigga, I'm going for Pat McAfee's. This ain't even look, I don't care that you black, I'm gonna go on the White Guy show and make his More rated than yours on the day that I was on there. That level of pettiness Is classic and you have to love the guy for it.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait. We playing spades right now and I'm about to drop the king, the king, the king of of wild card on you. I'm going to drop the big wild card on you right now that mofo LeBron put out that boxing video of Stephen A Smith. Did you get to see that, with Stephen A trading out a box?

Speaker 2:

But the reason why he said it was because Stephen A said if he put hands on me, I would have put hands on him back. Dude, let's be honest. Let's be honest. I've seen. Alright, we say we wouldn't, but I'm going to take you back to I say he wouldn't.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's put it this way, I'm going to take you back to a time right? Do you remember when we were kids and we was walking down? Okay, let's put it this way, I'm going to take you back to a time Right? Do you remember when we were kids and we was walking down the block and that dude called me the N-word and I was by myself, but I wanted to fight him for it. Okay, and me, you. Well, I ain't going to call any but me, you, a couple other people walked all up and down Broadway, right, couldn't find a Broadway, right. No, couldn't find a guy, right, because now I got a crew, cuz, remember he had a crew, so I wasn't gonna fight him with the crew. And then we come back, we bump into the guy right, remember how, oh, I'm rowdy, I'm round, ready. And then One of our boys said yeah, they said shoot the fair one, right? So we're there and we're on 233rd and Broadway, right from that cop's bar, right, and the dude stepped up to me and I didn't realize that I was this tall and he was this tall. And he looked down at me and said so, you want to fight Now?

Speaker 2:

At that moment, at that very moment there was a little bit of me that said, oh shit, right, because we had had enough time to walk my anger off by looking for him. But who threw the first punch? Me, right, because you're're gonna have to protect yourself. And we fought all up the hill, remember that truck came down and y'all had to separate us. And then he came over and said you know, I apologize, you know, and you know I was out of place. I went to shake my hand and then, when I put my hand out like yeah, don't worry about it, it's no thing, you know, cause we fought all the time.

Speaker 2:

And then he mushed me over the garbage can and when he mushed me on the garbage can, I fell, picked the garbage can up and he caught it. So I pulled it down, so he fall, kicked him in the temple and he was out on two, 30, just laid out the, and he was out on 233, just laid out. The cops had to come, wake him up and y'all told me run, right. So I feel like if LeBron had to hit Stephen A Smith, first of all, stephen A Smith knew somebody was going to break it up Two I think Stephen A Smith would have hit him, he would have lost now, but you got to get that one punch in.

Speaker 1:

Like it's just you got get that one punch in. You gotta get that punch in. Listen, you're thinking I understand what you're doing. You're thinking as a regular person, right? Mm-hmm, how a regular person will most likely react, regardless if it's an athlete size, whatever. I'm gonna try to get something back, yeah, but this is where I'm saying no. I'm saying no, I'm saying no because Stephen A is not a regular guy. He believes he is the company, he is the face of the company. He can't do nothing because he represents ESPN. So he won't lift a hand up on LeBron because he doesn't want to make ESPN look bad. That is the only thing he cares. He sent a tweet out saying I wake up every morning thinking how I'm going to make ESPN more money and how I can get a piece of that more money. That's it. He doesn't care.

Speaker 2:

So if the boss here's where I trumped that, though that's why lebron did what he did, because I was never going to hit that boy. But I'm saying lebron tried to make it look like, but lebron tried to make it look like a punk move, but LeBron, for the same reasons you just said that Stephen A wouldn't hit him back is the same reasons why I said LeBron shouldn't approach him, because LeBron wasn't going to touch him. Lebron has. Look, he's got the Lakers he's got to think about. He's got his brand. Look, lebron's money is 10 times Stephen A Smith's money. I don't know Stephen Money is ten times Stephen a Smith's money. Smith is looking at all. I got ten million dollars.

Speaker 1:

The law is even a new contract is not no time.

Speaker 2:

No, it's a hundred million for something I forget they were, if they wasn't over exaggerating, but they were talking about it on first takes.

Speaker 1:

I think they was over exaggerating, oh but I'm I'm again going to disagree with you, because the fact that, yes, you all that stuff, but I'm again going to disagree with you because of the simple fact that, yes, you all that stuff that you're saying about Bob is correct, but I'm going to look at how he doesn't lose anything If he smacks the shit out of him, and we can't.

Speaker 2:

Yes, he does, cause you think, you think Nike's don't stay with him.

Speaker 1:

Nope, he won't, oh no they're not staying with him.

Speaker 2:

I mean, look at.

Speaker 1:

Because he's rejuvenizing his career right now.

Speaker 2:

He had to Jesus. Stephen A Smith has agreed to a new Bro. I told you this boy is making more than basketball players. His contract.

Speaker 1:

He's making fucking tax my home's money.

Speaker 2:

He's 5 year 100 million dollars With USPN, which will keep him as the face of first tech Boom. Five year $100 million with ESPN, which will keep him as the face of first tech.

Speaker 1:

He's not making incredible money?

Speaker 2:

So I think they're both making incredible money?

Speaker 1:

LeBron doesn't really. First of all, the reason why LeBron came to him is completely different.

Speaker 2:

He's not thinking as that, and plus Everything LeBron does, and I'm gonna tell you this I don't care how much of a Laker he is, his skills are unmatched as a basketball player. He's coming with every. Everything he does is calculating. So Now I think I'd, like I said, I think what happened was when Stephen A said he looked over at Bronny, seen Bronny's face, and he figured alright, I can go over and say whatever I want to to Stephen A. I don't think it was about punking him, as Stephen A took it. No, I think he was just angry and he's like look, I finally got you here face to face. Let me tell you a little punk ass something Shut up about my son, but he wasn't going to touch him on the court. He wasn't going to. I mean, think about it If you touch Stephen A now, he's going to sue you for the money you got.

Speaker 2:

The Lakers are going to have to let you go because they're not going to keep you, because you now hurt their brand. It looks bad for Nike, so he ain't going to touch them. He got enough money to where he could just say I let one of my dudes smack the hell out of you. It's only taking one good smack to shut you up.

Speaker 1:

He was never going to touch Steven, he just wanted the words. And it looked good, it looked good, it did it did look good, it did it did look good, it looked great, it looked great. You know what looked good Was Stephen, a Smith's boxing tutorial.

Speaker 2:

Throw you, not Hold on, wait, wait. This is how you throw a jab. How you say, how you say he didn't do that, he didn't do that. This is how you throw a jab. How you say, how you say who, who, he didn't even do that he didn't even do that.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the hell he was doing. He was punching kneecaps.

Speaker 2:

You know what I remember when they first showed that. They showed it on first take, when he started working out and everybody was just like, but you know, look, no one wants to feel like they were punk. Right, steven, he knows that he can't, but I'm talking about you. If I see LeBron, I'm gonna beat the hell out of Noah. I see LeBron and he mad at me, I'm just gonna shoot him. But sometimes he's 69 and, with God power, yeah, and he's 40 and he still looks better than me than I did at 20. So no, I'm not fighting the punk.

Speaker 1:

But you have to agree. Sometimes you just have to admit that you are a punk.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, not that you're a punk, it just ain't worth getting your ass kicked. There are two different things to being a punk. A punk being, you ain't gonna fight everybody.

Speaker 1:

Right Yo. I know some people who are straight punks and they're cool with it.

Speaker 2:

They're like yo I'm a lover, but they know that. But they know that. But they know, just because you can see, this ain't going in. Well, don't make you. You ever see somebody go outside. It's two or three dudes and they like yo, I'll take you all on, yeah, and you know. And then you're like, oh, they jumped me'll take you all on, yeah, thank you no. And then you like all they jump me, they all bigoted in you, but you want to seem cool like that.

Speaker 2:

There comes a point where you could be a poker. You could Be smart. Yeah, a punk means you ain't. You know you'll start stuff, won't finish it, all this other stuff. Smart just means okay, this guy is 300 pounds, he's been at this bar.

Speaker 2:

We've been in situations like that. We've been in bars where we like you know, because we're always the type we scope the situation and normally the one with the big mouth is not the one you got to worry about. And how many times we come on man, think about the times we went to um, what was that club so? Well, we used to try to get there at 10 o'clock so we can get in and not have to pay, cause we was all broke Now before we became the cool dudes in that place because Omar knew how to dance. I knew how to dance. He was always just kicking it right and Lamont was the size of a small house so nobody ever wanted to mess with him.

Speaker 2:

A baby gorilla, jesus Christ. When he grabbed you, that's yo, he punked me. He punked me because he used to grab me and I couldn't Get loose. You know, I was smaller than he grabbed me and hugged me and not let me go, and I couldn't get Loose and I just thought I'm glad this is not Jail, because I'd be his new girlfriend, like he was a beast. But um, you know, but when we went to, when we go to these clubs, we would look and be like, alright, you see him staring at us. Yeah, I be careful, cause he's with that, that and that Cause usually those are the ones that want to start the junk is the one that know they got the backup and I never that dude to sit there by himself, it's always a dude that came in there with the posse and we, like I just know, if he come over here, we take him out and then we go over to.

Speaker 2:

You know, we, you always pay like that. That's being smart. That's not being a punk. Being a punk is smacking a girl and then her boyfriend come up and now you don't want to smack him. That's a punk. Yes, that's that's a problem, but.

Speaker 1:

But, but, stephen, it was.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't a punk, he just he didn't expect it. But Stephen A was, he wasn't a punk, he just didn't expect it. He talks, and this is what he does for a living, and he says look, and I have to agree with him, I'm talking about you. I am talking about you and the sport. If you have a discrepancy, talk back to me. Right, him and KD did that. They still don't agree, yeah, but they did that right but stephen a was.

Speaker 1:

I was watching a couple of this um episodes with um stephen a talking about brawny himself and he was. He was kind of crossing the line.

Speaker 2:

He wasn't being he was being, because look, here's, here's the problem. And I said this brawny is not an nba player. I don't care right now. Right, you didn't let this kid develop it, but there's, there's two sides to this. I understand. My son almost died, right? Not my son lebron son, excuse me.

Speaker 2:

So people, my son LeBron's son Excuse me, so people my son is fine, but LeBron's son, yeah, he almost died, so he can't get mad for somebody noticing everything that he did that we know was wrong, right? Oh, if you want me, I want to play with my son. So that's what I mean by it's calculated. You throw it out there. You make it seem like all right if you get my son. So you, that's what I mean by calculated you throw it out there. You make it seem like all right. If you get my son, you get me. So nobody's ready to draft Bronny, and if they did, he would have been on the back burner, right? Or we'll take him, We'll send him down to the G league.

Speaker 2:

He's not ready for NBA, no, he's not but LeBron wants to play with his son because this is more and, like I said, I understand it. But when people tell you, hey, this kid is not ready, and now stephen a smith starts talking about it first, when he first said, he says I'm not mad at him for showing nepotism, because you know, as his point, as stephen a said, white people been doing this for a long time with the business stuff. This is just the first sports guy to be able to do it, so I'm happy he could do it. But once he got drafted to the Lakers, it was like let him go down to the G League and develop, but LeBron's game and this is what he's saying this wasn't about Bronny, this is about LeBron. Because LeBron wanted to play with his son. That was the goal. All right, you play with him. Now let that boy go develop, because LeBron is not a bad player by any means.

Speaker 1:

He's just not.

Speaker 2:

NBA ready. He needs experience. He needs more than experience. You know everybody's like well, he got 37 in the G League. That's the G League. My grandmother can get 37 in the fucking G League. I don't know everybody's like. Well, he got 37 in the G League. That's the G League my grandmother can get 37 in the fucking G League.

Speaker 1:

I don't know she's dead Bro, but yo, Stephen A also said that Bronny was garbage.

Speaker 2:

He is. He said it just like that Garbage he is, but has he not said that about any other player, though? Like this is not a place where, look, this morning he just called the Phoenix Suns, the whole Phoenix Suns, a catastrophe, something that's just disgusting to watch, right? That's what he gets paid for, literally on a I don't want to say a Charlemagne tip, but he's paid to be loud. That's how skip bail is thought. It's like what's his name heard. All these guys are paid because they don't have to interact. Even a actually Coward does not. He't cross the line.

Speaker 1:

Huh, herb doesn't cross the line, coward Coward does not. He stays on the line. He stays on the line. He knows this is the way he's about to say something he's like oh, wait up, let me keep it here.

Speaker 2:

Here's my thing. They're paying Stephen A. Yes, they are For his opinion. Yeah, but damn, look, le, they're paying Stephen A For his opinion. And look, lebron can get on there and have his opinion and nobody's knocking him. You understand what I'm saying. So you can't knock somebody for he says you know, but I'm coming to you as a father. Well, you don't think that KD's father don't like what he has to say? Look, he went off on John Morant On a rant that. Put it this way, he's no different than what we're doing now. Think about what we just said about Jess Hilarious.

Speaker 1:

We didn't, but we didn't go ham on her.

Speaker 2:

We said she was non-talented.

Speaker 1:

I just said her comedy is not my flavor.

Speaker 2:

I said she was non-talented.

Speaker 1:

But that's still not that bad bro. Like that's not not that bad bro. That's not like she's garbage when you cut to the end this is what people want to do.

Speaker 2:

Look, you don't have to say she's garbage. Ronnie will bust my ass in a game of basketball, so I would be garbage too, but do I want to see him out Now? Mind you, I'm about to contradict myself in a very, very hard way. So me and my boy went to the Lakers-Nick game. My boy Killer surprised me with tickets. Knows I'm a Lakers fan, he's a Knicks fan. So you know I've been the man of Madison Square Garden many times. As a matter of fact, we went for. I was just talking about it. Garden many times, matter of fact, we went for. I was just talking about it. Remember when we went for the first Elimination Chamber?

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, I did not like that. I still got the pictures. I did not like that.

Speaker 2:

I forgot that I had those contacts with the white contacts and I was freaking people out because nobody was doing that yet.

Speaker 2:

But, um, we went to Madison Square Garden and LeBron comes out. I'm all excited. Now, mind you, I can talk what I want to, but watching LeBron play is amazing. You know what I mean, and that was my thing. I get to say, you know, there's going to be people that turn around and say I got to see Jordan play live, right. I'm going to be one of those that got to say I got to see LeBron play live, right. I'm going to be one of those that got to say I got to see LeBron play live, which I wish. I got to see Kobe play live, but I got to see LeBron play live.

Speaker 2:

But if you go on my page and look, I got video of Bronny, because I was like oh, there's Bronny, there's Bronny. He ain't hit no shots, but he was still there though. But this is what I mean, like when you're, when you're looking at people getting paid millions of dollars to do a craft and your son got in because of nepotism not that people don't do this all the time, don't get me wrong. So I'm not mad at him for it, it's just that you know. Now we're like all right, you got your wish, you got him on the team. Your team selected him because he's your son and they wanted to keep you. You played with him.

Speaker 2:

Now let that boy go down to the G League and develop. But no, you keep him up here talking about who's a better coach than me. Basically, it's how he's thinking I'm his dad, but he ain't developing right and he's garbage. So every time he goes out there it just looks like, well, there's daddy's boy. That's not a good look for him and that's what he was saying. You want to do something good for this kid. Let this kid go be his own man now, right now. You know he's freaking. He's Dustin Rhodes in NWA. When Dusty was there, you understand what I'm saying. We're not letting him develop.

Speaker 1:

Let that boy go develop. I understand, but I just think, I mean I'm just saying that Stephen A could have just said that emphasis differently.

Speaker 2:

This is who he is. This is why he's making $100 million. But let me tell you something? Somebody is why he's making $100 million. But let me tell you something. Somebody's going to pay me $100 million. I'm going to call you garbage if you garbage.

Speaker 1:

You, my boy, and because who you is is the reason why LeBron spoke to you and you was about five seconds away from getting the five fingers on death. He wasn't getting that.

Speaker 2:

No, I know he was.

Speaker 1:

I just wanted to say that.

Speaker 2:

Here's the thing where, where Stephen a is different than everybody else is. You know, when these people cuz nobody's walking up to Perkins saying that no one walking up to Perkins not See.

Speaker 1:

Here's the thing. None of the other guys other than skip Bayless right are as disrespectful as Austin, even a bro yo Steve.

Speaker 2:

It aren't the arenas is Gilbert arenas. Kenyan Martin Kendrick Perkins Didn't do. Say what's on a mind and they'll tell you you're trash. And they say Bronnie's trash, they're not they're not.

Speaker 1:

They're not, they're not. I don't know what it's the way. They say it differently than Stephen A and they say it less than Stephen A Like Stephen A like, for example, after that pot, after that show with LeBron and Fat Mac the next day, stephen A had to respond right In my house sat down with my wife and talk shit about me.

Speaker 1:

You watch the Pat McAfee show thing right? Yes, I saw too. He really. He really speak much about he, he, he. I was asked a question about Stephen and he addressed it and kept it moving with everything else. He had a small little segment where he spoke about Stephen. A he didn't speak about him for our show.

Speaker 2:

But you know what he also got the voices opinion. Let's take Steven. I didn't like what he did with Brian Windhorse, because Brian Windhorse and I love Brian Windhorse love Brian Windhorse the white guy, right, the chubby white guy yes, yeah, he was. Basically he called Brian Windhorse a weirdo. Brian Windhorse never said that they were friends. Yeah, never.

Speaker 2:

He said I've known, known LeBron James for 25 years and who's in LeBron's circle or who he treats the way he treats Is how he treats him. That's an observation. And then LeBron gets on, pat McAfee, and he was like, yeah, I was listening to Brian Wentworth and he's saying we're friends and I don't even know him like that. It's freaking weird. That's not what he said. You understand what I'm saying. So you didn't do no more than what everybody else does. You stated your opinion, but I watched a clip with Wendy and Wendy was just saying no, I follow LeBron. So you know, as somebody who has interviews with people several times, you feel like you know something about him, right. But he never said we were friends or we was buddies. But you made him sound like he was some type of psychotic, and you know what I mean, because you don't like the way the media is able to talk about you now. It's part of the business.

Speaker 1:

I think I think on the brawn is is gonna start trying to dictate who he wants to be broadcasted and that's what, and that's the power that he made by going to the pat mcafee thing but it's not.

Speaker 2:

It's not even a power move, because all you did was they're gonna listen to you, but espn is bigger than you as a lebron james right, because it's not like you've been. You don't come. If you were like somebody who came on their shows that gave them views, but LeBron don't do shows like that.

Speaker 1:

No, he doesn't do anything.

Speaker 2:

So it doesn't hurt. That's why we all knew it was planned. It was petty. I loved it, though, because it's like you know what, I'm tired of you talking shit. Let me do something to kind of hurt you back, and that's that's what happened.

Speaker 1:

But going back to what I was trying to say before, I almost forgot was the day the next day when Stephen a Responded to the Pat McAfee show. Right, he literally took a 15-minute segment. He even he went, he and he got personal on it, like he was explaining why the bond didn't go to Dwayne Wade ceremony, why he didn't go to the Kobe Bryant funeral, even though he misspoke about that, you know, saying he Keef, I don't see, lied, but he just gave the wrong information. No, no, there was something that came out, there was a reason.

Speaker 2:

That was during the time when Bronny had that they said he was out of the country.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

But that's what he was saying. He was like you couldn't make it to that, but you were out the country, that's you know. All Stephen A was doing was trying to be as petty as LeBron, because this was the one time LeBron got him. He won't help them and I'm going to be honest, he was pissed and he okay. Well, you got that one time, that one platform, so I'm going to come at you, but all LeBron got to do is just do the shopping, rip him again. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think, from this point on, I think LeBron's going to be called King Petty.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, oh no, lebron's been petty, he's going to be King Petty, he's King Petty. But this here, like I said, when you go in somebody's house and sit down and talk with their children and then leave the house, and they got to come in the house and back to themselves, look bro, when I seen that, I said who that's. Cause you think I ain't even going to give no love to the station. I'm going to go over to FS2. But he know that's not popping. He know ain't nobody over there popping no more since they let them, since they let them, guys go over there, they ain't popping. Ever since Shannon Sharp left them, guys ain't popping no more. So I'm not. But you know what? Hey, pat McAfee, we're playing Indiana. You're going to be in Indiana. I'm going to come on your show To be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

We know, like you said earlier, the bond is calculated and I think I think he calculated this because I think he went to Pat McAfee show, because Pat McAfee is the second best there and his ratings are Going to top over Stephen days. First, take eventually one day. Right, and it was in Stephen a's hometown. Right, and Stephen a A's own show. Right, like you said, his own.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, his own show, Not his hometown, but his home though.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and he wanted to do that purposely, to let him know listen, I'm not taking off my shoes in your house.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, Basically what he did was Because he could have done the.

Speaker 1:

FS1. And you know what he?

Speaker 2:

did? He said fuck your couch, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

What about cocaine? What about cocaine? What about cocaine? Fuck your couch.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it was definitely classic.

Speaker 1:

He could have gone to FS1 and probably produced a lot of numbers for them.

Speaker 2:

Just to fuck with ESPN. He wasn't mad at ESPN, he was mad at Stephen A. So if I come on your network and give somebody better ratings than your show that you claim is top, but when I get on it, their show is top, screw you.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I look much better, and him doing that also will help Pat McAfee bump out Stephen A, and that's. I think that's one of his calculated moves.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think Pat McAfee is going to bump out. I'm not saying that's going to happen.

Speaker 1:

Everybody likes.

Speaker 2:

Pat McAfee. Look, pat McAfee has his own problem. Don't need LeBron for that, because, look, pat McAfee gets people on his shows to shock me. You know one he's already working with WWE. Yes, every time something happens with them, they're on his show. He's got that friendship with Aaron Rodgers where he's always on his show, but now they're trying to do, you know, is he going to retire? Not so he's staying off, but once he makes his decision Wednesday. Now Aaron Rodgers is like Pat McAfee is just one of those guys, so he doesn't need LeBron to be able to top first team.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying he needed LeBron. I'm saying LeBron is choosing him to be the man instead of Steven.

Speaker 2:

It's not even choosing. I think he was using him for his own purpose.

Speaker 1:

That's basically the same.

Speaker 2:

So yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, but um, it's just. It's just ridiculous that it's gotta. It's just ridiculous how Stephen is reacting towards it. You know, saying like you've been doing this shit for decades.

Speaker 2:

Take one, take one to 14 I wasn't taking if I was steven a. You give me matter. How long have you known me? You really think I'm gonna take it now if I know that I can top you? That's why I love the. That's why I love the lebron pettiness because you know I'm petty, bro, I'm petty, understand. I'm not letting you get one over on me for nothing if I could help it. So LeBron got one over on him.

Speaker 2:

Now Stephen A's trying to get one over back wasn't as good, but it was something. You know what I mean. Sometimes you just can't lay down for something like that. Like you came into my house, you hung out with my kids, you slept with my wife, you wiped your muddy shoes on my carpet and then you left my house and everybody saw you on my ring cam. I gotta come back with something. I gotta say something. I gotta come back. My wife said your stuff was trash. My kids say your underarms stink. Like I got to come back. My wife said your stuff was trash. My kids say your underarms stink. I got to say something to get back from you being in my house. So you know it wasn't like it was a win and it's never going to be a win, because Stephen A is always going to have a mic. Now, every time LeBron does something.

Speaker 2:

But I will say this, though LeBron does something, but I will say this though and it had to be hard, because they then lost that game to after that night. They lost that game to the Chicago Bulls and I really thought. I really thought Stephen A was going to be petty, because my whole thing was maybe if you were to focus more on basketball instead of being up here doing interviews trying to tear me down, maybe a team would be winning. Right, he didn't do that. He literally said his piece and then he let it go and, literally, big LeBron James right back up. Because of what you said, he's got a $100 million contract. We'll let you say your piece and then get, because of what you said, he's got a hundred million dollar contract. We'll let you say your piece and then get back to what you do.

Speaker 2:

If it's, if he's being horrible, say it. If not. And he, he picked him up the whole time. You know what I mean. So you got to get your lick back. It just wasn't as hard of a lick, as you know. He ran up behind him and it just wasn't as hard of a lick, as LeBron showed it wasn't. You know. He ran up behind him and, like, hit him on the back and ran. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

You remember back then, when we were in school and motherfuckers Grabbed your neck and be like give me that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

LeBron took it. All Matter of fact, I think the next day Stephen A's hairline went back about another two inches I was like what the?

Speaker 2:

at this point I'm looking at the top of the tv like where's his hair going it was running from his thoughts because he was thinking about that all night and they was just like Nah, bro, we can't deal with this, no more, no more. We congregating right here. I don't see why he won't let the hair go, bro, I get it, but Maybe he's got a very bald. Hey man, lebron. Lebron got it cut so low and look bald. Just make it bald, because when you don't, you still see that they want beautiful hair like this look and everybody's like, oh, but you bald.

Speaker 2:

I said, bro, I got a full head of hair. I've been cutting my hair for the longest, so at work I actually had to let my hair grow so they could see my hairline yeah you.

Speaker 1:

Even when you had hair and you was doing braids, you cut it off and go bald.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I just I hate dealing with the hair. Yeah, but Steve and A should just say you know what? Because LeBron got a golf patch on his head. You know that part where you knock your ball into the sand and you got to knock it out back onto the grass. Yeah, yeah, that's like his spot and you keep missing, you just yeah, and it's gonna be basically Got the driveway because this thing come up like this.

Speaker 1:

No, you know, you know, you know, like the Indy 500, right when they, when they're going, did they do the laps and everything and they get that that spin out when they just hit the edge and they keep going to the wall. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2:

Steven's hairline. Yeah, that's the driveway. That's what I said. It's the driveway. The only difference is there's grass here, there's grass back here. But this you know, the driveway up to the garage and then the grass back to the garage. The door keeps going back, and then what makes it even funnier, though, is he always got to have the straight hairline, which you know pushes it back more, because his hair probably doesn't use right, but because he wants it to be straight, he got to cut it back further to straighten it up. I don't get it. I don't get it.

Speaker 1:

I don't get it either. Let's end this, my brother. Give a shout out to your radio station website where people can get in touch with you.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and I will be twitching. I'm not going to. You know we'll do this again, because you know we probably do this once a month. But my laptop went down because I gave you all the Twitch information and that's why I was upset about the switcher, because, because you know all this cool things I can do. And right before the show it was like, yeah, the mic ain't going to work, Like next, next time next time we got to do something cool yeah.

Speaker 1:

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