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How Disabled Activists Forced Congress To Act

Kevin & Palmi Henry Season 4 Episode 7

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Eighty-three steps doesn’t sound like a policy argument until you picture someone dragging themselves up marble stairs just to be allowed in the room. We’re Kevin and Palmy, and we’re talking about the Capitol Crawl, the 1990 disability rights protest that helped break the stalemate around the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) by forcing the country to see inaccessibility up close.

We set the scene in Washington, DC: activists leaving behind wheelchairs and mobility aids, cameras rolling, chants echoing, and more than 60 people climbing the Capitol steps by hand. One moment still stops us cold, eight-year-old Jennifer Keelan pulling herself upward and saying she’d take all night if she had to. That image made a simple point lawmakers could not talk around: without ramps and accessible entrances, disabled people are locked out of civic life.

Then we get into what happened after the ADA passed and why “passing a law” isn’t the same as guaranteeing access. We talk about ramps, curb cuts, accessible transit, and workplace accommodations, plus the frustrating gaps: weak enforcement, the burden of civil recourse, and how accessibility breaks down on private property like shopping center parking lots. We also dig into why fines for blocking access don’t land the same for everyone, especially across income levels, and what that means for real-world disability justice.

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Welcome And Why We Advocate

palmi

Welcome to our podcast When Life Gives You Lovements. I'm Kevin.

Kevin

And I'm Palmy. We consider ourselves disability advocates and intend to highlight some disability issues and things we find interesting that we frequently encounter when we're out and about. Also, some history on disability that we find interesting. This year we're going to include more of the interviews of the people that the disability affects. We hope you enjoy it.

palmi

Well, hello everybody.

Kevin

Hello.

palmi

Welcome back to our podcast when life gives you limits. I'm Kevin.

Kevin

And I'm Palmy. And what are we talking

What The Capitol Crawl Was

Kevin

about?

palmi

Well, we teased last week we're going to talk about the Capitol Crawl.

Kevin

What is the Capitol Crawl, Kevin?

palmi

It's the uh protest that moved a nation.

Kevin

What does that mean?

palmi

Well, here in the US we have a law that protects people with disabilities, makes, for example, builders build buildings that are, you know, have wide enough doorways to accommodate wheelchairs. Uh specifically instructs hotels they have to have disabled rooms, etc.

Kevin

But we didn't have that before.

palmi

No, we didn't have to be.

Kevin

Not before 1990.

palmi

In 1990, uh the Congress was pretty much in a some kind of stalemate situation.

Kevin

They were just being lazy and not wanting to do anything.

palmi

Yeah, there is there's nothing going through Congress. Either somebody one party or the other doesn't like it.

Kevin

It meant people had to spend money, is what it was. And they weren't wanting people to have to spend money basically, or to tell people that they had to sp spend money. So uh what they did was basically shame them. I mean, quite honestly, that's what they did. These protesters shamed them into acting.

palmi

We're gonna explain how they did it. Yeah. And this is entertaining if you've well lived in US already have these laws. It's kind of uh okay, it's nice to know how we got there, but you know, it doesn't really do much for you. But there are people out there that are living in places that don't have these kind of laws that protect resist disabled people.

Kevin

Still, yeah.

palmi

So uh this may give them some ideas. It wasn't something that came easily in America because it did involve at least initially spending

Eighty-Three Steps That Shamed Congress

palmi

money.

Kevin

All right, let me set the scene. Okay. Imagine yourself uh drag imagine dragging yourself up eighty-three stone steps before the law still because the law still does not see you, leaving wheelchairs behind, hands on concrete, chanting, echoing just to try to be seen. And that's what this the march, the capital crawl, the protest, the protest that moved nation was all about.

palmi

A bunch of disabled people got together and uh had convinced Congress that they needed to have a hearing on the subject, and Congress agreed and scheduled at the end of time.

Kevin

There was a bill, it was called the ADA bill, and it stalled in Congress. And activists were frustrated, growing after years of slow progress, um, they introduced the adaptive and uh the ADA is the adaptive American disability for access to public transport uh transit and their organized style. They had been trying to get this to pass for several years, and so on March 12th of 1990, activists gathered at the White House the decision to stage a dramatic, undeniable demonstration, um symbiotic power of leaving behind mobile aids set and to set the scene. They invited crowds, media, and it involved um perceived tension between the crowds and the media, and the crawl itself was 60 plus activists beginning to climb the steps of the Capitol stairs.

palmi

Now, I I don't know if you're familiar with the U.S. Capitol building, but these are light hard concrete. No, I think they're marble steps.

Kevin

What are they?

palmi

Marble.

Kevin

Marble. Okay. So 60 plus activists, including children. Um, the highlight was an eight-year-old child, Jennifer Keelan, who pulling herself up saying, I'll take all night if I have to.

palmi

And so basically, uh the point was to try and shame Congress because there was no ramp to get into the Capitol vaulting where they had this scheduled uh hearing to appear at. So um uh they got the point across because it if you can imagine that eight-year-old crawling up the steps, that was just one of them.

Kevin

There was multiple. Yeah, yeah.

palmi

Yeah. Uh photographers, I'm sure, had a field day with the pictures that came out of this. And basically the public outcry, and yeah, they gained a lot more support, you know. Why are you making these kids crawl up these steps?

Kevin

Yeah, the aftermath math and the um legisl uh legislative impact um of the protesters, um, it effectively made the ADA bill pass in four weeks or four months later, which still that's a long time, but progress is slow.

ADA Wins And The Enforcement Gap

palmi

Well, I think most Americans have a problem with uh once it did pass. It didn't like okay.

Kevin

Here's the problem with it. It had no legs.

palmi

It passed.

Kevin

Yeah, it provided uh the long-term impacts were the the ramps, the curb cuts, the accessible um transit transit workplace um protection, but it didn't have legs, and so there's no reinfor there's no enforcement of it.

palmi

Right. If you recall correctly, our last interviewee, Wendy, had a job. It was a job she'd acquired shortly before it passed, and she had her accident just about a couple weeks after it passed. She was a spinal cord injury and it was a car wreck. And suddenly she found herself in kind of a hostile work environment because they didn't want to make the accommodations for her to work there, but she pretty much needed the accommodations to work there.

Kevin

In order to be able to have a income. Yeah. What is what people don't under able people don't understand is people who have these disabilities, they don't want uh they don't want money just handed to them. They want to be able to work and earn their way to for their income. Yeah. In most cases. I mean there are some people that don't just want to be handed money, but in most cases, these are people that want to have a a um life that is a normal life like they used to have when they before they had these in these um disabilities. It's it does a lot of damage to your self-esteem when you can't be a working member of society anymore.

palmi

It sure does.

Kevin

Yeah.

palmi

Um also because like I said initially, they had to spend money, but nowadays I mean boulders just automatically order the right size door frames for doors, you know. So it's no that's not true, no extra costs. When we were looking at houses to buy houses and stuff, it's built after I think 1982, it just has to automatically uh no, we had to buy the 36-inch doors, they were 32, and we had to ask for an additional 36-inch doors.

Kevin

Well, our contractor is cheap. They should they make then you I think if it's public, if it's a public, but I don't think housing-wise they do it automatically.

palmi

I think that's one of the problems that uh discovered it that was frustrating for Americans, is it doesn't really apply as much to private as it does to public.

Kevin

Right, yeah. And also the fact that there is no reinfor that no enforcement of it.

Private Property Barriers And Unequal Fines

palmi

It's uh the only recourse you have is a civil recourse. Right.

Kevin

It's not like there's you get a citation or because if if there's a handicapped parking on a private uh like a shopping mall or something like that, that property is owned by the the shopping company, and so the police don't monitor those. You know, you can call the police and say someone's parking in a handicapped spot and they won't won't give a ticket. Um, you know. It's up to the because it's on a private parking lot.

palmi

The other problem I have with it is uh almost every handicapped spot in this country, anyway, has a to-way minimum, whatever it is, 250, I think it is, a fine dollar fine. Well, fines don't really impact everybody equally. Fines really impact lesser income people as opposed to like wealthy people. Right. I you know who could care less and get a ticket or have to pay a fine. It's not a a big thing.

Kevin

But so those are ongoing uh um accessibility challenges that you know the that weren't fought. They the b the bill was passed, but the di there are still challenges that need to be fought against. Maybe we need to do another crawl.

palmi

Uh perhaps we do. Yeah.

Kevin

Uh did you say, I heard you say um when we were teasing this last week that um they re they redo this every March it in is it in Washington?

palmi

I believe so, yes.

Kevin

Oh, really? I didn't I didn't know that.

palmi

I don't guarantee that. I just read that somewhere. I can't remember why I read it.

Kevin

Hmm. I'm I don't think I've ever seen it.

palmi

Well, actually, uh Washington, DC is really pretty to visit this time of year in spring. It's when the cher blossoms that were uh gift from Japan bloom. You have cher blossom trees blooming all over the place. The weather's not as hot and humid as it will get in a month or so. So yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

palmi

Now's the time to do it. I guess I picked a good time to do the the crawl too in March. Yeah, it should be a good time not in the winter, not in the summer. They have winters kind of like they do in Missouri. I think where you have high humidity, it just seems so darn bitterly cold.

Kevin

Yeah.

Should We Do Another Crawl

Kevin

Okay. Does that sum it up for the crawl then?

palmi

I think it does. Just uh recall that's what it took. And the generation that was prevalent during that time is responsible for it. It's helped us to keep moving forward, not let it go away. Yep.

Kevin

Any housekeeping?

palmi

Just a little bit. A gentle reminder, please visit our website at www.winlifeky lens onword dot net. And give us a like if you got some value from this. And go ahead and subscribe if you want to hear more.

Kevin

All right. We'll see you in a couple of weeks.

palmi

Bye now.

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