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Suitcase Divas: Travel Agent Tips, Tricks & Travel Tales
Join co-hosts Denise and Cheryl as they chat about the journey of life and how travel plays an intricate role in navigating its twists and turns. Whether it's sharing travel tips, swapping stories over a glass of wine or mimosa, or welcoming special guests, there's always something new to explore! Grab your suitcase, pour a drink, and let’s dive into the adventure of life together—because travel makes everything better!
Suitcase Divas: Travel Agent Tips, Tricks & Travel Tales
Travel Transformed: Five Years After the Pandemic
It’s hard to believe, but it’s been five years since the world hit pause—since our passports collected dust, grocery store runs felt like high-stakes missions, and we all learned the true value of toilet paper. Travel as we knew it came to a screeching halt, leaving cruise ships stranded, borders slammed shut, and entire industries scrambling to survive.
Fast forward to today, and while the world is open again, travel is far from what it was pre-2020. The pandemic didn’t just disrupt our vacations—it rewrote the rulebook. From the rise of digital nomads redefining “office views” to the comeback of travel advisors who can decode ever-changing entry rules, the landscape of travel has shifted in ways we never saw coming.
Some of these changes have been for the better—think the explosion of wellness travel, a renewed focus on sustainable tourism, and a shift away from last-minute deals in favor of more intentional, well-planned trips. But let’s be real—some things still aren’t quite back to normal (looking at you, airport chaos and customer service shortages).
More than anything, the pandemic changed us as travelers. It reminded us that “someday” isn’t promised, pushing many to finally take that dream trip instead of waiting for the “perfect time.” It made us rethink how and why we travel, prioritizing experiences that truly matter.
So, what about you? Have you noticed these shifts in your own travels? Are you booking differently? Traveling with a new perspective? We’d love to hear your pandemic travel stories—because let’s be honest, we all have a wild one.
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Hi guys, so welcome, welcome. Today's episode we are actually going to be talking about. It's the five-year anniversary of COVID, the pandemic when the world shut down. So, looking back, do you remember where you are, cheryl? It was just a regular day for me, so nothing too crazy, but I really couldn't believe what I was hearing on the news, are we?
Speaker 2:really, I have a specific day that I remember where the school. It was a Friday and a bunch of things happened that day. The school made their official announcement that they were shut down for the next several weeks and we were actually packed to go camping with my Girl Scout troop and that got canceled. Even though it was camping and we were one of few troops in that area, we didn't but nobody knew but everybody was in panic mode.
Speaker 2:right, they were, yes, so we pivoted and actually camped in the backyard of one of the mom's houses and the following month we were. This is when we began to see, in April, like the changes in travel, the changes in things were going. Spring break. Well, kids were remote by this point, and we had a New York trip scheduled with the school that got canceled. We also had a Girl Scout trip that we had been planning for so long and Alaskan cruise in June that also got officially canceled. That April Travel just changed big time.
Speaker 1:I do remember we were scheduled to go to Clearwater to go see winter. The dolphin and Clearwater aquarium locked down quarantine so we had to cancel that spring break trip and then we never got to see winter.
Speaker 2:She passed away so I have still yet to go on my Alaskan cruise. I've planned it twice since then and it's fallen apart.
Speaker 1:So it's one thing yeah, for sure. Well, I'm super excited because Virgin Voyage just announced yes, and that's where I'm going now, but that's either here or there.
Speaker 2:This is to Alaska now, so but yeah, it's hard to believe that it's been five years since the lockdown. I, I know.
Speaker 1:So let's go back to when it all early happened. So the what? The here's the things that I remember being like, so bizarre, like people were hoarding toilet paper and Lysol wipes.
Speaker 2:And the toilet paper memes were hilarious.
Speaker 1:They were funny and but I would. It was so bad that I would get like get in touch with the stock people that they're like we've got a truck of toilet paper, because I was I wasn't hoarding, but I was getting to the point where we were going to be out of toilet paper and it was nowhere to be found. Like it was like. It was like crazy, it was crazy and and going to the store and bringing your groceries home and wiping everything down with Lysol wipes Now, but you didn't know you didn't know, it was better to err on the side of caution, which is what we saw in the travel world too.
Speaker 2:So many things changed and then so many things kind of came to the forefront like Zoom Zoom blew up. During the pandemic. Zoom blew up and the whole thing was business on top'm dressed from the top and then I've got my PJ pants on on the bottom usually, or depending on what time of the day it is, I'll have some leggings or something on. But yeah, I rock the Cova Couture still five years later.
Speaker 1:Well, and I was the one that refused to do that. I just always got dressed and did my thing. I never took the free pass to just hang out in your pajamas or whatever. That just wasn't my style. I always felt more prepared if I was dressed. Yeah, you know, that's just me. I guess everybody's different, but it was very popular to you know, be professional on top and then, like virtual tours, ended up being really popular.
Speaker 2:During that time, museums and any destination that could do that started to do that because people were logging in and people were getting online and touring museums they hadn't seen and creating dream bucket list of where they wanted to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Well, the remote education part was you know that was rough Cause if your kids can't like Reese thought it was great. Alex, he really needs to be in person to learn.
Speaker 1:Like and then they thought it was almost a joke. Like people, we were so underprepared, like the school systems in general, for for to be learning online and they weren't. It was difficult. That part absolutely was difficult. I don't know how your child learns, but if you had a child, that was that, it wasn't. It was two years, easily two full years for online learning and that's a lot.
Speaker 2:That's a lot, which is why we chose to homeschool the next year instead of sending to remote. We created a Corona pod and a couple of families got together and pulled their kids for that year and we homeschooled them.
Speaker 1:There were high schoolers mostly so in that, and it's difficult in high school to well, I mean, it was difficult for all of them.
Speaker 2:It was difficult for all children.
Speaker 1:I still feeling the effects. I think so. I think we absolutely are. I think so. I think we absolutely are. I think we lost some some education there, because not everybody's able to do that online. But um, the other huge thing in the beginning was cruise ships like that were out to sea. I listened to a couple of them where they're like one was on their honeymoon and they were. It was like a 10 day cruise and they were out in the ocean for 30 days but then the ports were all closing. So then this other couple there, so they were out there, for they were quarantined for two weeks. And if you had an interior room, imagine like two parents and two teenagers or whatever a kid in an interior room and you're quarantined in there.
Speaker 1:They were like they had to take shifts of when they could come out and get fresh air because it wasn't and they were having to ship people's medicine on board and it was a real, it was a, it was a problem and some cruises because you're so in such close quarters they were it was catching like wild fire, right. So that was very difficult. I don't know if you've been on a cruise during that time. Thank God I wasn't. I wouldn't want to be locked out at sea for 30 days. I don't think not under those conditions. Um, because they weren't even like. The buffets weren't open. You got. You got a very scaled down menu of what you you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So, um, and and this is another thing that you probably didn't think about they were bringing in nicotine patches for people that were smokers. Because they were not, they couldn't. There's no more.
Speaker 2:So once you ran out, you're, you're quitting now I wonder how many people actually were able to take advantage of that and be like all right, this is my call to quit.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that.
Speaker 2:Think about that. Yeah, yeah, I do know that the cruise ships and they were in the travel world. They were, like, really one of the first kind of hit with and not having any kind of idea of how to handle it, because they're stuck out there. Now there were people that got stranded in other countries as the airline shut down and we were trying to keep people where they were to stop the spread. So it did change the policy and procedures of travel moving forward. Even to this day, we still see some of those things in place.
Speaker 1:Well right, and they had to get really flexible for a bit. Their cancellation policy had had to be like waived and obviously future credit cruising, like the one couple that they were on there for 30 days and it was their honeymoon. They gave them like're, like, for us it was fine because we, we are young and healthy and and we were able to, so they were then helping the older cause I guess the princess one was the one where they were out to sea for a long time and a lot of people died on that ship because it was just spreading. But they were kind of like saying like if you're young and healthy, you can, you can get this and you'll be fine. But if you're older or have autoimmune or respiratory issues, then those are the people that were really really affected, you know, hit the hardest.
Speaker 1:So, um, I think that a lot of people had to cancel their trips and get in, postpone them, um, and then we just were locked down for a while. Um, so during that lockdown I remember we talked to Maddie with RV, um chair, and that's when you saw the rise of people wanting to. Just they were like we can't be locked in here forever, we have to get out and do something. So then that's when, instead of like all inclusives or cruises, people started getting creative and renting RVs and doing more camping and more outside stuff, because visiting the national parks and going they got a huge boost, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then the policies and procedures where you mentioned cancellations and stuff. That's still they, the industry, the travel industry still kept a lot of that the way that they handle cancellations and things, that they're now better prepared for it, so they have more, more steps in place to protect against things like that, and a lot of that has stayed the way that they've handled that, which has been really nice.
Speaker 1:And if you are lucky enough I shouldn't say lucky enough, but there was a point where, after they were, they were giving like great cruises and prices on cruising just to try to get people back in the market, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I went on a cruise. Yeah, november of 2021. It was Thanksgiving. Actually, it was my very first cruise ever and it was super cheap. It was on Princess. Being my first cruise, I was spoiled. They set the bar high, because I really love Princess Cruise Line. It was an amazing experience. The ships weren't packed, they had to follow a protocol.
Speaker 1:Yes, they had limited protocol. We, the ships, weren't packed Um cause they had to, they had to follow a protocol. Well, you know, they had limited protocol, um, we had an amazing cruise.
Speaker 2:But I also noticed other places like, uh, amusement parks and venues. They started limiting when we started opening the world, started opening back up. They were limiting the number of people, Cause I know I went to um Carolina Panthers game and we were set it was just Daniel and I and then the whole row in front of us was empty. The row behind us was empty and then two seats separated two, or it might have been four seats. Actually I think it was four, yeah and the next group.
Speaker 2:Awesome. It was because that was my second time going to a game and I don't love it, because I don't like the crowds, I don't like the seating You're right on top of each other, right, that was probably the best experience, having that much space. I do wish we'd go back to respecting the spacing of all of that, where, when you go to an event or you go to an amusement park, or I wish we did have a little bit more um, control or what's the word I'm looking for cap on the number of people that were going, but the, the experience itself, the way that they handled that. Um, when we were opening back up because we travel, then in December of 2021, I traveled with students to Hawaii from Charlotte and that was interesting because we were still dealing with. That was 2020?. That was 2021, december 2021.
Speaker 1:So we were trying to come out of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they still had COVID protocols. Like you had to either have your vaccination card or you couldn't go into certain places you had. Like you had to do the wellness checks before you go into Hawaii. Even when we flew into LA, before we got to the airport we had to fill out a health form before we could, before we landed, I think it's before we even took off. I don't remember, it's been a couple of years, I don't remember, but there were so many steps we had to take and add on to our travel plans that and I took 80. We took 81 people on this trip. That is so many.
Speaker 1:So navigating that and that's before you were a travel agent, right, that was before I was a travel agent.
Speaker 2:That was when I should have been getting paid for a travel agent.
Speaker 2:So much information on that I planned travel for years without being a travel agent and getting paid for it, but that was very interesting to navigate. Um, I do like that they've kept a lot of the safety and sanitation policies in place. Yeah, that is day going to a hotel and knowing and seeing the remote control still wrapped because they've cleaned it and then they wrapped it. I feel like the sanitizing process has stepped up its game when I travel. So I do appreciate that they've kept some of the procedures in place.
Speaker 1:Right, Well so, and then everybody had to shift to work from home, work from home setting. And you know who benefited the most out of that? Our animals, our doggos. Yes absolutely, and I feel sorry, sorry. It is actually a thing. They got so used to having us be there that when people started going back, the dogs were like depressed.
Speaker 1:I feel so sorry for them yeah, um but yeah, that was a real thing, working remotely and navigating all of that um in a lot. I think a lot of places had to shift the way they did stuff and then they weren't making, they weren't building houses, they weren't making cars, like a lot of production was shut down. So if you were in that industry like a realtor, I mean that had to have been hard, a hard hit, you know.
Speaker 2:For we had a friend that was buying and selling their house during the lockdown and that was an adjustment for them.
Speaker 2:But yeah, there was a lot of things that kind of you you saw where you could have trouble in certain careers because even the travel agency, travel agents took a big hit because people weren't traveling, canceled trips, the income you were counting on, like um, the hairdressers, anyone that worked on a commission-based style job, uh servers. It really hurt a lot of people and they're still recovering from that because that was a at least a year years worth of uh change in their salary, in their income.
Speaker 1:So that was a big thing. It was good to see people getting creative, though, with as far as, like you know, oh, there was a lot that, instead of dining in, it was all order out, and you know what I mean. You just had your food brought to you or you went and pick it, or it was pickup. You know what I mean. They found a way to, even though they didn't have customers in their seats inside.
Speaker 2:They found a way to pivot, and that's Right, and that was a big deal when we were traveling, especially to hawaii, because they did still have rules in place where certain restaurants you couldn't come in unless you had their um had a vaccination. So we had to like order food to be delivered to our hotel or we had to eat at the food trucks or we would go out and get food for as a group, like we would have. We had to plan differently um food trucks, or we would go out and get food as a group, like we had to plan differently. So it was a lot of adjustments and things. But I feel like the industry is bouncing back. We had a big travel boom from 21 to 23. Like people were like, let's go, let's get back out. A few words.
Speaker 2:When I was looking up some information, some statistics about the travel industry for this episode I hadn't heard these, but maybe you had. Oh, let me see what it was. It called biz travel or bizcation, I think is what it was for. It was like business travel slash vacation, because they were letting everybody work from home.
Speaker 1:So people were taking advantage of that.
Speaker 2:Like if I'm going to work from home anyway and I'm going to be on zoom, then why not be at the beach and yeah there was the um, and then people who had been planning like their bucket list trip they were actually taking those trips that I think we all realized we can't keep saying, well, one day we'll go or you know, when we retire we'll go. People were like let's go now.
Speaker 2:We don't know, we're never probably we're gonna yeah and and that was such a shock being locked down for so long and people were like I'm getting out, I'm taking these trips. So we did see a boom in the travel industry um 21 through 23, and it's still kind of trending that way. Um, we oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I think what I noticed is, when everybody did come back, it kind of it kind of worked out for us as travel agents, because I think that people were realizing there were. Well, first of all, there's always going to be scammers out there. So when people are starting to travel again and get back in, get planning these trips, some people they were not getting the trips that they thought they were getting and so people started saying, hey, well, if I am going to go, if I'm taking this bucket list challenge, you know what? I think I maybe need a travel agent because I'm not planning this all to specs with all of the, because different countries have different protocols and you had to have certain vaccinations, and so that became a little more challenging for the average Joe to book travel.
Speaker 1:So I think that's when people did start reaching out to travel agents to come back to be like, okay, here's where I want to go, what do I need to do? What vaccinations do I need to have? You know what is the protocol? So I think that in as an industry of travel agents, that kind of did help us uh, you know, around 22, 23, because people were like I'm getting out and I'm traveling, but I need a little bit of help and guidance to do that.
Speaker 2:So, um, and I think the pricing changed. The way they, the way travel was priced, was different. We had a when we first opened back up and everybody was traveling. We were at the industry was just trying to get people back in destinations.
Speaker 2:So, there were some deals when the boom started. Supply and demand kicked in and you weren't getting those great as good deals and this is still accurate to this day. Last minute deals on cruise lines and things are not as popular as they used to be Prevalent. Yeah, it used to be where you could be like, all right, the ships aren't always full. I can usually maybe check it out a week or two before and get a good deal If you were flexible in your travel like that. There are still some of those out there. However, they're not as there, but there's not an abundance of them, Correct, Because people are proactively booking out like a year out, and so there's not supply and demand.
Speaker 1:You're not going to find those heavily discounted rooms because you're lucky to be getting. If you're booking two or three months out to try to get on a on a cruise ship, these days, you're lucky.
Speaker 2:Especially if you're traveling with a group. Even in a group is if you're trying to get two or more cabins, you are going. Especially if you want them close together on the same floor, you've got to book further out, yeah you really do. I have a harder time booking my group trips on the cruise three to six months out, versus a year to 18 months out, like, and the cruise lines are stepping it up. They're releasing their dates further out so people can plan better, but those dates go so quickly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, One thing I will say railbookers, you can book two years out with railbookers.
Speaker 2:So if you like to be really prepared and plan those big bucket trips.
Speaker 1:They're one of the few. I don't know many other companies that will book two years out and secure your seats and all of your travel arrangements. So shout out to Railbook or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you had mentioned earlier about working from home and stuff and remote work and the digital nomad lifestyle boomed during the pandemic. I mean, it really became the go-to. A lot of people were working from home those that could did and then they would go, they would rent that RV, they would go out to the national park, they'd go out to the beach and they'd work from there so that they could be out of their home. But they were still getting their work done and I'd say that that's still a thing people like to do.
Speaker 2:But I will one of the things the destinations, the hotels, the all-inclusives all of them kind of caught onto that trend and they stepped up their game. They created space for digital nomads people so that they would have a nice place to sit and work with their computer. They would offer advanced or higher end Wi-Fi kind of thing. These places caught on and they kind of definitely tapped into that market and were catering to those that wanted to travel while working and it became a big thing and it's still. A lot of places still have those um features and what's the amenities and I think it's a great thing because we work remotely and we travel a lot when we work.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, I think the businesses had to pivot to be able to still function and and you do see a lot of people still working remotely, more so than I don't know that we'll ever go back to a brick and mortar setting A lot of companies are just going to see that you were able to function and function and not pay the overhead of having an office. I think it just depends on the business, but I think that and workers are also.
Speaker 2:Employees are like look, I saved money by not having to commute to work deal with my food. I know I can bring it from. There's a cost to drive to work or to get to work. Whether you're driving, taking public transportation or whatever, the environment was better because we didn't have as much pollution. Yeah, so all around, there were some a lot of positives and I understand.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't want to go back and do it again. No, I mean the things that all bad came out of it.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, we learned a lot about what we can handle um as a people.
Speaker 1:We learned about what we can't, so the and a huge shout out to the health care workers that were working around the clock, 24 hour shifts, like, yeah, you know that they embraced the fact that it was a crisis and they, they just do what they know to do. But I can't even imagine being in their shoes. So huge shout out to them because, you know, not everybody has the same gifts as other people, so they really were miracle workers for sure.
Speaker 2:And speaking of that, like one of the things that also started to rise and became a big trend when travel really picked up again was wellness travel.
Speaker 2:People really started taking care of their mental health, their physical health, in the sense of not just outside of exercising but just being more mindful in themselves, and that became part of their travel, their trips, their intentional. They were intentional on where they were going. So wellness travel became a lot more popular and a lot of places really stepped up their game there and offered and we did an episode on this as well. So if you want to know more about wellness travel and all the amazing things that are out there, make sure you check that episode out. But that became really big and people became more intentional in their travel. Like you were saying, they're either planning and grabbing those cruises that are usually filling up a year out. They're making those plans now and then they are going. They're not waiting. If it's a trip they can take this month, a lot of people are going out and about and taking it and not putting off the travel as much.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, absolutely, and traveling with sustainable companies is definitely more relevant now and prevalent. Virgin Voyages is known for being a very eco-friendly, clean cruise line. Friendly, clean cruise line, very little trash, and then the hammocks are a resource and the recyclable bands are all definitely a very green company and I think people like that People will go to Virgin Voyages with the understanding that, well, not only is it an adults only cruise line, which is amazing, but they're very green and they care about their carbon footprint on the world and I think that's you know, I think more companies are stepping up and and doing that as they should be, so shout out.
Speaker 2:Do you feel that as a whole, like the industry is pretty about pretty much bouncing back, like with the airlines and the hotels, and are our staff back? Are we seeing shortages there? We, how's our customer service in the industry as a whole like, are we back to? Are we back to where we were? We ever going to get back to where we were? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1:I mean I feel like we've pretty much bounced back. I don't know that we'll ever be back to where we were before, because the world's not the same world as it was Right and we can't change that. We can only just move forward and and you know it is what it is and do the best that you can with what you know now. So, yeah, I mean I think I think it's pretty much bounced back. What do you think? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:I think financially, probably for those companies in the most part, but I do think the staff shortages are still an issue across the board and a lot of things not just in the travel industry but across the board. I feel like some companies found they could run with shorter numbers. Just because you can doesn't mean you should, because I do think customer service has become an issue on both ends. I think the customer service there they went through a lot during the pandemic. If you worked in the customer service industry, if you worked in a people-facing industry period, both sides got burned and burned out and then now, coming back, there's less patience on.
Speaker 2:I think the customers can be just as bad as the customer service and we don't give as much grace. We don't have as much patience. It's a lot of, and I think part of that is people have an issue with hey, this may be taken for I might not be able to do this. It's going to be, something's going to happen. Part of that I think could be what's the word I'm looking for, a fear left over from the lockdown, but that doesn't excuse a lot of behavior. I think also some of the policies and things that these companies are initiating are irritating their customers and and we got to look at it as a whole and navigate that and figure it out.
Speaker 2:But, like I think, five years later we're still figuring out now no free bag I was trying not to call out southwest, because we just talked about, like it just announced this week and we were we in our travel.
Speaker 1:People are upset because they are that was the reason that people flew southwest was because of the free bags. And now that I mean I listen, I wonder how they're gonna. I wonder how that will impact them. Um so, yeah, I'm going to stay tuned for and we'll uh we'll have to.
Speaker 2:It's not been good on the socials. People have not been very appreciative of that, but I've seen that across the board in these industries where they've had to change some of that for whatever reason I mean the economy the cost of everything is going up. So I don't know. I'm not a financial person when it comes to that, I don't think in that brain, so I can't know. I'm not a financial person when it comes to that, I don't think in that brain, so I can't tell. But I would hope it's more because they had to and not because they could. But who knows, We'll see how that plays out. So what do we think is next for travel? What do we think it's going to look like in the next five years? We're five years post COVID right now, post lockdown. What do we think it's going to be like in five years?
Speaker 1:We're five years post COVID right now, post lockdown, what do we think it's going to be like in five years? Well, I mean, I'm hopeful that it's going to continue. I hope there's not another pandemic. I'm thinking positive things. I hope that we continue to work towards being green, having a smaller footprint, um, choosing those companies, travel companies that are making an effort to be green. And um, and I, I don't see travel going anywhere. Everybody loves to travel. I mean, that's what we do work hard so that we can go on vacation and we can relax. And um, I don't see that changing. People love travel as long as we can still, as long as, as long as we're still friendly in other parts of the country, with other parts of the country, as long as they still like us and we're allowed there. I think that we, I look forward to traveling abroad still. Um, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:I think, um, I hope people are out there traveling. I hope they are taking the adventure traveling. I hope they are taking the adventure. I hope they're taking the trip. Yeah, um, I really, even if it's an hour drive, I hope that they go out and explore that part. Um, I hope things change where you don't have to worry about crossing the state lines in the US and things like that. I think that's something you and I have discussed, that I'm curious to see how that's going to travel agent.
Speaker 1:you know and I do a lot more like cruises, international, like travel abroad and you have to worry about now with you know that and where it's safe to go in different countries. But now even in the U S like you do a lot of national park trips and within the United States and you have, I do a lot of domestic travel I cause, I I love and we have a huge country and we should, we should be proud and and go see it.
Speaker 2:However, like you said, when we, when we do, when we have our clients go internationally, we have to learn and advise on the laws and the culture there and know that it's a fit. Now, because I do a lot of domestic travel, I have to be cautious of where I'm sending my clients. Are they safe, accepted and welcome in the state that we're? They're going in the us? So I have to treat each state as it's an individual country, because they are making up their own culture I'm sorry, I shouldn't say making up their own culture. They're creating their own culture, um, and they're. It's not a. It's not a, it's not a united. You can't cross, you can't just drive across state borders anymore and be expected to be treated the same. So I have to be aware of that when I am working with my clients who want to travel within the states.
Speaker 1:Yes, and we we are allies, we are very inclusive, so this is stuff that we think about as travel agents, um, and I think in this, in this climate, that you have to be mindful, so I think I mean just know what you're, know where you're going, just as if you were traveling abroad. Know where you're going.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I think you have to do that in the States. That would probably be my recommendation now. No matter where you're traveling, whether it's domestic or international, you need to know your destination, your final destination and what the culture is like there.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely, absolutely. Well, I think. That about wraps up. You have any other takeaways? I'm glad that you know we are where we're at.
Speaker 2:We survived, we have to be positive and we love travel and we want everyone to travel and do your research. We just want to make sure you guys are aware of everything that's going on and make sure you know the places, the locations you're going to. If you're looking for wellness, there are places out there. If you are wanting to be green, there are places out there. If you're a digital nomad, there are places you can go that will cater to that, that have amenities to fit those needs.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, and if you don't know and you don't want to do the research, then reach out to us, because that's our whole job is to know that's what we're preening on every day of our lives. We're constantly getting new information and so, yeah, reach out to a travel agent if you are uncertain and want guidance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but just keep traveling because it is worth it. It is fun, and we don't ever want to not be traveling again.
Speaker 1:Correct. We always want to be able to travel and that's where we're going to leave that, so I hope that this was an eye opening and then reflect where were you and are you in a better place? We'd love to hear your thoughts and if you have any special COVID stories that you want to share, we'd love to hear those too. Bye guys.
