The Keenly Podcast
The Keenly Podcast is a ministry podcast created to help leaders understand what’s happening in their ministry, define a meaningful path forward, and tell a compelling story along the way.
Hosted by the Keenly team, this podcast serves pastors, faith-based leaders, volunteers, creatives, and anyone with a heart for ministry who wants to do it well. Each episode explores the real questions leaders are facing as ministry continues to shift, change, and grow more complex.
You’ll hear thoughtful conversations, stories, and practical examples from members of the Keenly team, ministry leaders, and others who deeply care about helping leaders lead with clarity, health, and purpose. Together, we explore ministry, faith, leadership, and the heart behind healthy, effective ministry.
This is designed to be a resource you can return to. Episodes are meant to give you perspective, language, and tools you can use in real moments, whether you’re preparing a sermon, leading a staff meeting, shaping a donor initiative, working through a communication challenge, or trying to discern what comes next.
If you find yourself asking, “What do I do next?”, you’re not alone. This podcast exists to help you move forward with understanding and purpose.
We hope you’ll join us on the journey.
To contact Keenly for help with your ministry, visit https://keenly.org.
The Keenly Podcast
Ministry Metrics
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Chad and Jason unpack how churches often borrow business-style scorecards like attendance, giving, number of programs and then quietly use those numbers to compare, compete, and judge success. Instead, they argue that the most important ‘metric’ is transformation: real stories of people growing, healing, serving, and living on mission. Through a rural church case study and honest reflections on board expectations and pastoral pressure, they contrast transactional metrics with a transformational lens, inviting leaders to rethink how they define and measure impact in their own context.