On this episode of the Intelligence Career Conversations podcast, host Jim Donnelly is joined by David Cattler, former Director of DCSA. He reflects on a career spanning the U.S. Navy, White House, NATO, and DoD, and shares how an unexpected move into intelligence shaped his path. He also discusses the importance of continuing education, mentorship, prioritizing judgment over collecting credentials, and knowing when to pursue the next opportunity. Throughout the conversation, he emphasizes the role of trust, integrity, and relationships in building a lasting career in national security.