Creative Solutions for Quilt Samples

In this episode of Quilting on the Side, Andi and Tori discuss the challenges quilt business owners face with accumulating sample quilts. They explore various options for managing these samples, including giving them away, repurposing them into wearable art, and selling them. The conversation delves into the difficulties of pricing handmade quilts and the importance of finding the right market to sell them effectively. The hosts share creative ideas for repurposing quilts and highlight the significance of targeting affluent areas for selling quilts.

Chapters
00:00 Navigating the Quilt Sample Dilemma
04:00 Creative Repurposing of Quilts
06:50 Selling Samples: Challenges and Opportunities
12:56 Finding the Right Market for Quilts
18:35 Planning for Fabric Samples
21:34 Choosing Timeless Color Schemes
23:19 Dealing with Mistakes in Quilting
25:58 Creative Solutions for Quilting Errors
29:09 Community Engagement and Selling Quilts

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Co-Hosts:

Tori McElwain @heytori.tech

Andi Stanfield @truebluequilts

Transcript

Andi (01:04)
Welcome back to another episode of Quilting on the Side. ⁓ Tori, I have this ⁓ topic on my mind and I want to your ideas on it. I am drowning in sample quilts. And what does a quilt business owner do with all of their samples that they've collected over the years?

Tori (01:30)
I feel like this is a big question for our audience because we are constantly making either for fun or for business and like you said we're drowning in quilts. So I think the first thought that comes to mind is give them away but we don't want to give them all away because we did spend a lot of time on them. A lot of them may have special meaning. Some are would be great to advertise for our past patterns and things like that. So I think it takes a lot of thought. ⁓

So there are, what would you do with your favorites? Are those the ones you want to keep or what are you thinking?

Andi (02:04)
Yeah, I have

a couple, it's one of those things, how do you choose your favorite child? Because you did, you made each one of these things for a specific reason. has, you know, even if it was just bringing an idea to life, it's special to you. But, ⁓ you know, I've written two books, and so there are at least 10 quilts in each of those books. So there's 20 right there that are stacked up in my closet. And yes, I want

Tori (02:10)
you

Andi (02:36)
to

keep them for trunk shows, but just space and the cost of transport, the space it takes up in your car, if you were going to ship them somewhere, if you were traveling to do those trunk shows, it really does become a burden. So I've got good photos of all of them. And I think the most meaningful ones are like the cover quilt that I chose. I'm not going to get rid of

That one is one of my favorites and there was like.

Some of the others that I really spent a lot of time and effort, especially on the free motion quilting, there are a couple patterns that, you know, aren't the cover quilts, but the the execution of the actual quilt. Not all the details came through in the book, and they're really special to me. So I probably take one or two that I would want to keep forever from those book samples and the rest I

would be willing to part with, deciding...

Tori (03:45)
I think

Andi (03:46)
Deciding what to do is the hard part. you know, if I could gift them to someone in particular, but again, families of quilters, it's like everybody has six quilts already, so.

Tori (04:00)
I think it's important to point out what you said in preparation for this. You took really good pictures of all of them. So even if like our listeners are thinking about what about trunk shows? Well, you can.

create a slideshow from those pictures and have some key quilts as live examples rather than every single one be a live example. So that's one way that we can kind of use them even if they're not with us. I think that's important to point out. And another way is if, like you said, everybody has a quilt already, I'm thinking of ways we might be able to repurpose them. So what comes to mind when we say repurpose?

Andi (04:41)
That trend recently of quilted coats is really intriguing to me. I don't necessarily need one myself because I live in a very warm climate. so, you know, we, just, I'm not the type of person that's gonna have a quilted coat on, but I would, that.

idea came to mind. been seeing recently a creator on Instagram who makes hoodies from quilts and I have one particular sample that I made with when I was an Island Boutique Ambassador and I didn't execute it very well. you know, it's a design I want to go back to but I was under a time constraint. I didn't have the exact fabric

for the background that I wanted with the assigned line of fabric that I had to create with. And so I just kind of threw this mishmash together and.

It would make a really cool hoodie because it's almost a camo pattern. so I just, think, you know, having that as a wearable instead of this finished quilt that I don't think looks that great anymore, that might be a good way to repurpose that sample.

Tori (06:08)
It makes me think of, um... I think it's a great idea, first off. I wanna say that, I think that's a idea. Especially cause, um, didn't you describe it looking almost like camo?

Andi (06:19)
Yeah, it's got a modeled background, you know, that watercolor batik effect and it's in these browns and grays and it just, yeah, it gives a very almost woodland masculine feel. So I think it would translate to ⁓ a hoodie or a jacket pretty well.

Tori (06:41)
That's

really cool. And that's been fashionable lately is quilted clothing. So I've seen not just hoodies and jackets, but also skirts and things like that. And quilted pants with people are, yeah, they're cutting like panels and like putting them in pants. And that could be a fun way to repurpose. So you can wear the art that you've created, which would be really cool. Especially when you go to places like quilt gone or quilt show or something like that, or even just like walking around a craft fair. People there would probably really enjoy seeing your quilted wearable art.

Andi (06:50)
pants and overalls.

Yeah.

Tori (07:10)
in a way. Not in a way, but wear a blurt. Yeah. So think that's a fun way to repurpose them. What do you think about selling samples? Have you ever looked at that?

Andi (07:14)
Yeah.

Yeah, I do have an Etsy shop that I put my quilts on and actually more for my mom who, you know, when we say we come and you are the same way. We come from a quilting family, we quilt ourselves. And so you've got double the amount of finished quilts sitting around. And it would be nice to get some money back that we've invested. ⁓

It's another income stream and with anything, what you give your attention to is gonna grow and Etsy does not get much of my attention. And so it's just like random times that things sell. And it's always that pricing discussion. You tried to sell quilts early in your career. How did you find?

that price point with the time and effort and cost of materials versus what people are willing to pay. Comment on that?

Tori (08:27)
That's the eternal struggle. mean, I was just listening to a podcast today, Sam Hunter's podcast, the Revolutionary Craft Business Podcast. It's got a name. She shortens it to the Rev Craft Podcast. I should link it below so that you can go listen to hers because it's a great podcast if you haven't listened to it. But she was talking with a guest who was talking about this exact subject where because it's considered a craft, a woman's hobby.

It's not valued quilting is it valued like a fine art such as like painting or something like that. So the cost of what we what we create is ⁓ price lower because of that in general. And there's a lot that goes into that discussion. There's a lot of background and stats and things that support that. But ⁓ with that in mind, it is difficult to sell handmade quilts. However, there's always a market. And like you said, if you put the effort into it, you can sell it. ⁓

But it is a struggle and it's something that you would really have to invest time into to build up a market where you could sustain that as a business. As a side thing, where if you're just listening them and thinking, oh, if they sell, that's great. If they don't, I'll keep them. I think it's OK to go that route and just keep in mind if you do want to actually move that product, you need to be more active. So going to places where people buy art.

and maybe doing a showcase at a local ⁓ museum or gallery. Like some offer low cost, some offer like group rates where you can get a bunch of designers together and do something like that. So there's ways to figure that part out. But in a short term, selling would be really difficult. But if you have an idea where this could be an arm of your business, where it can be one of those things that sit there and wait, and then when you're ready, you can be like, hey.

I've got quilts on sale, come and get them. You know, you're ready to really push it. You can push it. There was a discussion in the quilt patterns designer group about selling samples to quilt shops so they can continuously have samples, whether for classes or patterns or things like that. That could be really cool. I would also look at your fellow quilters because we tend to make our quilts, but we also love to buy quilts that are outside our

skill level. So that's something to address. You can talk to other quilters, talk to people at local quilt shops and quilt shows and talk about, I've got quilts that I'm a pattern designer. got some of these. ⁓ I'm thinking more complicated quilts would probably be a little bit easier to sell. Especially if you do things like ⁓ Neemeyer, Judy Neemeyer quilts or Judele Neemeyer. Like something like that where it has a

Andi (11:11)
Yeah.

Tori (11:15)
impact. feel like those would be easier to sell rather than some of the the quilts that I make which are more like basic blocks and ⁓ big easy finishes. So yeah, all those factors in mind.

Andi (11:24)
Right, right, yeah, like the

Judy Niemeyer or the intricate paper piecing. I'm thinking of the Baltimore album style, intense applique. I am never gonna do one of those applique quilts. yeah, having samples that showcase those different styles. ⁓

would definitely be something that a shop might be interested in. As you were talking about kind of out of the box thinking of places to sell samples, it reminds me of the coffee shops that always have the art and the price tags in the corner. just keep an eye out in your local area. have for years, I have been meaning to call the bank manager at my local branch because

in their lobby, they have a huge blank wall. And I'm like, like.

Tori (12:25)
Opportunity!

Andi (12:26)
Yeah,

exactly, let me come hang my quilts. I can rotate them out every month or two, and at least that gets different eyeballs on them. like I was saying with the art shop, you just have a small little card with purchase information or contact information, and you can do that. ⁓ Every so often, I will go to a craft fair and try to sell some of my finished quilts.

Tori (12:44)
Okay.

Andi (12:56)
finished samples and things and again it's the market you know people aren't willing

or generally aren't ready at a Saturday craft fair, you know, when they've got, you know, a churro in their hand, they're not ready to drop a couple hundred dollars on a finished quilt. So you have to know your market. And as you were talking about pricing, it's I feel like sometimes it's a self-fulfilling prophecy that we've told ourselves the story so much that people aren't going to pay for a quilt. So it's better just

Tori (13:23)
Over.

Andi (13:36)
to give it away because you're not gonna make any money off it. But if we start pricing our quilts at 500 to 800 to $1,200, then people will learn that it's, that's what it costs.

Tori (13:49)
Well, I love that you said that because it brought to mind my mom is really active in her guild. And one thing that they've started doing every year instead of a quilt show, a quilt show, they've been doing a quilt auction and they sell the quilts for what they're worth. And I think the last one she made, I think her last, her, I want to price it under than what I'm thinking just to make sure I'm not like going over.

but it was like $45,000 from a quilt auction. And there was probably, I'm gonna say between 20, 25 quilts. So you can imagine how much money that created for each quilt. And some were big, some were little, some were sets of like table toppers, know, table like the table runners. That's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, exactly. Like that kind of stuff. So it was a nice mix and there was some bed size ones. was a huge mix of different kinds. And that makes me think of

Andi (14:22)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, runners and placemats, yeah, to the table.

Tori (14:44)
your audience, going back to the audience. So with that quilt auction, they make sure to invite people with wallets and people who appreciate the art and the handmade business and handmade quilting fiber art industry so that they know this is going to be successful because these people understand the value of quilts. I like at least a third of the audience are quilters themselves. And it also makes me think back to when did I have the most success when it came to markets? One,

was a Christmas market. So when they're looking for gifts, that is something to really think about. They're looking for gifts and to position these quilts as high-end gifts could be a really great way to go. Another one that I had a lot of success at was at a rich part of town. So keeping that in mind, you may have to drive to a bigger city where they have the ritzy part of town when they're doing a

Andi (15:32)
Hahaha

Tori (15:42)
Local art scene type it might not be called a craft fair. We have a arts beats and eats ⁓ a Festival it's like a festival But it's in downtown Royal Oak here in the outskirts of Detroit and Royal Oak is known as a bit of a higher-end place to live and We're lucky enough to live on the outskirts right where the price point is like middle We're really close to like the good parts of that not good, but like the ritzier parts of town

Andi (16:03)
Great. Affordable.

Tori (16:10)
we could if we wanted to go there. But anyway, you could look for those events where you know people are coming that have a little more expendable income than those that go to a craft fair at the local fair, at the county fair personally. So looking at that kind of where is my audience? You've got to look at where is the money too. And that's not something we talk about a lot. We don't say, hey, where are the rich part of towns?

Andi (16:25)
Yeah. Yeah. My-

Yeah

Mm-hmm.

Tori (16:37)
That's a

conversation we always have when I'm moving and I'm looking up at Goodwills and like the thrift shops, like looking at going to those stores first to find furniture or, ⁓ and things like that to fill our houses. Cause whenever I move, we have to sell some of our furniture cause it's not going to fit in the new house. No matter where we're going, either the living room's a weird shape or the kitchen needs a new fridge and our fridge is too tall or like, yeah.

Andi (16:40)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Right.

Yeah.

Tori (17:04)
You get, we always have to sell something and buy something when we get there. So that's something that I've learned is to go to what I can tell are the more pricey ends of town and look at those Goodwills first, those thrift stores first, because I typically find better furniture or more like even antique pieces sometimes than going to the one that's closest to me. So that's, that's something to keep in mind with your quilts as well. You want to look for the high end areas and see what's going on in there and maybe you can get your quilts in like the coffee shops like you were mentioning.

in a downtown area where you know things are like the jewelry stores are where the high-priced gyms and the bougie yoga places. Like having your quilts there will be more beneficial than having it down the street at Starbucks. Yeah.

Andi (17:33)
Yeah. ⁓

Right?

Right, right. Yeah,

as you were talking about going to the Ritzy areas, you know, I'm in the Phoenix metro area and Scottsdale is always like the bougie place in Arizona ⁓ or Sedona, you know, and it started me thinking along those lines of, you know, if you have some of the smaller quilts, maybe you approach some kind of small

boutique type shop that has, you know, not the big department store, but the ladies fashions and or the kids stuff. I'm thinking baby quilts in some kind of kids store, but not the pottery

Tori (18:35)
Okay, so now we have an idea that what we're going to do with these samples at the end is possibly sell them, possibly give them away. What kind of things or how can we plan ahead so that we're more prepared to get rid of these samples? What do you think?

Andi (18:51)
Yeah, that's always a great idea. You know, the saying, begin with the end in mind that you have to have a goal. So. While it is important to jump on trends and try to be trendy, you know, in line with what the current vibe is, whatever, you know, you don't always have to use the hot colors of the season. You can go with some of those timeless.

color schemes, ⁓ know, red,

Tori (19:21)
Yeah. Well, and also because

when you're working with pattern companies, you have to be on top of what's trendy and what they send you. yeah. Yeah. But what are some of those colors? I'm sorry.

Andi (19:30)
Right, right. So yeah, was

saying red, white and blue is always a great ⁓ color scheme that's going to find an audience somewhere. ⁓ Christmas colors, know, those traditional red and green ⁓ will find an outlet. Rainbows are always popular, ⁓ you know, and then

Sometimes neon is good, sometimes not. Sometimes you have those, you know, dusty rose muted colors. Sometimes those are out of fashion. So if you can kind of stick to the classics, it may help. And a lot of people like to design and make their samples with solids because those people that want their quilt to look just like the cover of the pattern

it's hard to find those out of print lines and, you know, and then you're always recreating the cover image to keep up with the the latest and greatest trends. But ⁓ you had mentioned, you know, working with what the fabric companies tell you, and that was the exact problem I had with that quote ugly quilt that I was describing earlier that I don't know what to do with this now because I felt constrained.

with the line of fabric they sent me. And I was like, I have to match it to something else that from that fabric company. And I didn't even think to ask. So go ahead and ask the question, know, hey, can I get a couple yards, you know, three or four, whatever the requirement is of this other fabric to work with the pattern rather than trying to make do with something that doesn't.

quite look as good. know, the worst they can say is no use what you have and then you're in the same boat. But it would have been worth a few days of back and forth questions and shipping to end up with a better product.

Tori (21:21)
Yeah.

And we've learned, especially through our interviews, that a lot of companies, all fabric companies, tend to have basics lines. So that's always, I think that's always good to kind of reach out and be like, hey, is there something from the basic line that you could use to kind of fill in this, like you said, background fabric or accent fabric, something like that, to where it's pretty much always available. mean, things are going to change eventually, but they're basics lines of these, the main fabric manufacturers, like, ⁓ you know, got Bella solids is always there, Kona solids, well, depending. ⁓

Andi (21:40)
Mm-hmm.

Tori (22:03)
That one's a little up in the air, but Cone of Solids probably is gonna be there, but a lot of them have a basics line that you can kind of choose blenders or ⁓ solids to go with that. And to that point, for those who are thinking about entering pattern design and solids are usually great to go with quilts or blend or something that doesn't have a lot of texture because it showcases the quilt pattern itself and not the fabric. So that's also something to keep in mind as you're planning ahead.

Andi (22:03)
Great.

Tori (22:30)
Am I going to sell? Is this something that's going to sell well afterwards or is this something I can give away afterwards? What are these prints? How are these going to look when I cut them up? How are they going to look? You know, we can't predict five years from now, but you can kind of look backward over the last five years. Has this print kind of stayed like popular in a way and kind of think along those lines as

Andi (22:43)
Yeah

Tori (22:51)
Well, I have a question. What if, I have this quilt and if you watch it on YouTube, you'll see it. It's based off the color wheel. So it was a exploration color. It was a pattern I created when I was teaching color confidence for quilters. And ⁓ I found it in my stash the other day, hidden in my Kona black fabric, but it's based off the color wheel. So it's called Colors in Bloom and I've got the primary, secondary colors in the middle, tertiary colors on the outside to make like petals for a flower.

And then on the outside of that are larger pedals that represent the neutrals that go with it. And I totally screwed it up when I was making it. So the pattern has an extra larger pedal out here. And then these giant pedals on the outside, they're supposed to be four that space evenly and it's all messed up. And so we had this like quick discussion before we started recording where I was asking Andy, like, what do I do? So I thought maybe we could bring this into the podcast and be like,

Any ideas for if you screw something up, what do you do? Do you keep going with it? Do you change? I guess it might depend on the project, but what do you think,

Andi (23:59)
Yeah, I've experienced this in a couple different ways because there was a pattern I was trying to do. Remember the. ⁓

⁓ the, what am I thinking of? The tilted pinwheel specialty, the twister rulers. I can find my words. The twister rulers, and I wanted to make a Christmas tree, but the way the dimensions of the block are, it just, it like made this really wide triangle that didn't look like a Christmas tree. So I get the whole thing pieced and it just, looks dumb. And so that is

Tori (24:22)
Thank

Andi (24:42)
honestly in a pile of UFOs and I'm like I could at least finish it and make a pet bed out of it, but it's like I'm saving it to do a failure video on YouTube of failed projects. So, you you can always find a use for things like that. So that's one of the things that has come up about quilts is that

The function of a quilt does not depend on its beauty. You know, the ugliest thing in the world can still be a blanket, can still provide warmth. You know, it could be the liner of a bag. You don't have to see it all the time, but then you're not, quote, wasting the fabric. So, you know, you can, you can, yeah, you can find another, you can find another purpose for it. So, you know.

Tori (25:33)
I like the idea of the liner of a bag. You don't have to look at it all the time. Cut it up.

Oh, it could be fun for improv. What if you take a quilt you hate? Like, you have this great, like you said, you have a great idea, you're gonna do this, go look at Christmas tree and it just doesn't work and you're like, oh my God, well, I'm gonna do this. You could, you could cut it up and use it like improv quilting where you could see what happens when I chop, chop, chop and then sew it back together. That could be a fun way to reuse it.

Andi (25:58)
Yeah, yeah,

do lots of other slices. ⁓ And in reference to your petals, you know, we talked off camera about taking some of it apart. so, you know, reducing it back to the part that worked. You know, if you just, went one step too far and, you know, it's not like baking. you just, if you add a little extra salt, you've ruined the whole dish, you know.

you can backtracking quilting, get it to a point where it was good enough.

Tori (26:34)
That's true. we were talking about maybe just taking off the larger petals and keeping it with the small, I guess this would be small, medium, large, and then largest. Like four layers there. So yeah, taking the top or the largest ones off and just keeping it where it's just more look like, it does look more like a flower, I think, with just the little ones. That could be something. But then I have to figure out how to get the, cause it's fused down. It's not quilting, but it is fused. Except for this one up here that looks all funky.

Andi (26:59)
Hahaha!

Tori (27:04)
That's why, that's when I like stopped and was like, wait. These aren't lighting up like they're supposed to. I completely screwed up the second or the second ring of the larger flowers. Yeah, I screwed up the neutrals. Yeah, so they never got finished because I, that was the question. It was like, what did I do? I don't know what I did. I was at the time pregnant. So I had a baby very shortly after I had fused this on and I did not have any energy or brain space to fix it.

Andi (27:14)
the way the neutrals blend, ⁓

No!

Tori (27:34)
So now I pulled it out, lost in my black fabric and I'm like, okay, how could I fix this? And now I had to figure out how to unfuse something.

Andi (27:41)
Yeah.

The other option that I've heard from floating around in the design slash art slash quilt world is that ⁓ you put add one kind of odd element and it looks like a mistake. But if you repeat that similar type of design choice, then it's it becomes

an intentional experiment. So whether that is adding, you know, a pop of yellow, you know, just one yellow block is like, she ran out of fabric and just threw that in there. But two or three makes it more like an intentional improv pop of color. So I'm thinking if, you know, that one piece is lined up right in line with the previous one where all the other ones are kind of offset. So if somewhere you could find two or

you know, a couple more places to line things up in a similar way, then it might look more intentional.

Tori (28:44)
that's an idea. I was speaking with one of my friends, ⁓ Monica, who also saw this quilt, because I've been, I've had it up there all week. So like all my client calls have seen it, like all the coaching. I'm like, yeah, that's my quilt I'm trying to figure out. She also suggested, and I just remember this right this second, but she also suggested having, making more, she called them boomerangs, but the larger ones and just filling it all in. So that, that's.

Andi (28:46)
So.

Right, right. And that was my other

thought. Yeah. Yeah.

Tori (29:12)
But then I don't know, I don't know if I like it that way. So guess it's just personal preference at this point. I like your idea of walking it back. It's just in my, uh, how do I get them off? Cause I've got these three.

Andi (29:17)
Right.

I don't know if you have to

soak it or, you know, this is the call for ⁓ the hive brain of quilters online is if you know how to undo fused pieces and take them apart. I think there's got to be a way to just, you know, peel it back and somehow soften the glue.

Tori (29:44)
Like, it might be able to just tear

it off, but it might leave residue.

Andi (29:49)
Yeah, well, and that's where you kind of have to wash and scrub and, you know, or, or, or if you peel it off and it looks horrible, you trim just outside that first neutral petal round and then applique that whole thing onto another.

Tori (29:55)
Yeah.

Just cut it out.

Andi (30:10)
Yep,

exactly!

Tori (30:13)
Oh, that's an idea, that could work. I could just cut it out. That could work. So just in case anybody has advice, what I'm planning on doing with this is I'm not planning on appliqueing it down, I'm planning on throwing it on a long arm because I do not have the patience, unfortunately, to do it twice. So I'm throwing it on a long arm, it will be quilted on a long arm. But if I do cut it out, maybe it'll be, that's an idea, but it's a circle then. So then I have to figure out how to do the inset circles, I think is what it's called.

Andi (30:16)
Yep.

Well, if you just had another layer of plain background, I mean, you could do that on, you know, it becomes kind of raw edge applique at that point. If you put the...

Tori (30:47)
Yeah?

And they have rainbow

fabric, like I have a rainbow thing with a gradient. ⁓ my gosh, I could do that. could put a red. Okay, we got some ideas going. I might show up next time with this different.

Andi (30:59)
Hahaha!

Yep. So here is a new feature

of the podcast is design in real time. ⁓

Tori (31:13)
How to take a quilt you messed up and make it better.

Andi (31:16)
Yep, yep. So much fun having these discussions. Hopefully we have given you some ideas for things to do with your samples, different directions to take your projects, and if you have any ideas for us, what has worked for you in terms of selling or gifting your samples, we want to hear them. So leave a comment and...

Tori (31:19)
Is that it?

Andi (31:40)
You can also join us for real-time conversation on our Patreon channel. Tori, tell us about the different levels of Patreon.

Tori (31:48)
definitely Patreon we have five levels we have free we have five dollars a month and we have $15 a month and they all have different benefits and the $15 you get the one every month we meet for live question answer so it's kind of like a hot seat where everybody gets to share a word ⁓ intimate enough still where every see my I think this is gonna continue because either way we could do breakout rooms and like anyway

It's everybody gets their question answered. It's like hot seat coaching where you come you bring your wins you bring any questions or challenges or we can just talk like last time we met we had like the first 15 minutes we were just commiserating because it was a rough week all the way around and we're just like man I feel you this week has been tough and then we kind of problem-solved one person's question another person was just sharing what's going to happen next we had some ideas for to kind of make the most of an opportunity

So it's a really, really fun way to get together. And that's why it's called a live Q and A because it's not direct coaching. It's not going to be promises. We're meeting together and we're networking and we're talking out our issues with other people who get it. And it's been, it's been so much fun. So if you are looking for a community like that, go ahead and check out our Patreon.

I do want to throw out something for our audience when Andy was talking about sending in questions about where to sell. If you sell quilts online and have found success doing it and that is your full time either business or side business, we would love to invite you as a guest. So reach out to us because that is a question we get a lot is about how do I sell my quilts? And we have ideas like I said, like Andy said, I sold quilts in the past.

but we'd love to hear what is working right now for you. So if you have that experience, feel free to reach out and we'd love to have you on.