Jessica Steele: The Intersection of Sports and Quilting

In this episode of Quilting on the Side, host Andi introduces Jessica Steele, a quilt pattern designer known for her sports-themed quilts. Jessica shares her journey from a hobbyist to a full-time business owner, discussing the inspiration behind her designs, the challenges of balancing family life with her quilting business, and her approach to marketing and social media. She also talks about her collaborations with other designers and her future projects, emphasizing the importance of maintaining the joy of quilting amidst the business aspects.

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Jessica Steele and Her Designs
01:28 The Journey from Hobby to Business
02:58 Inspiration Behind Sports-Themed Quilts
04:57 Designing for a Modern Aesthetic
10:06 Balancing Family Life and Business
12:30 Navigating Social Media and Marketing
16:58 Collaborations and Community Engagement
20:56 Future Projects and Aspirations
21:52 Maintaining the Joy of Quilting
26:18 Rapid Fire Questions and Fun Insights

Connect with Jessica:

On her Website: https://www.jessicasteeledesign.com/ 

On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jessicasteeledesign/

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Transcript

Andi (00:04.807)
Welcome to this week's episode of Quilting on the Side. And I am very excited to introduce my friend Jessica to my friend Tori. I met Jessica at a retreat last year and it's fabulous to have her on the show to tell us all about Jessica steel designs. So Jessica, introduce yourself and tell us where you're coming from.

Jessica Steele (00:28.61)
Right, well it's nice to meet you Tori and I'm so happy to be here with you guys. So my name's Jessica Steele and like you said, I am the quilt pattern designer behind Jessica Steele Design. And my quilts are all sports related and inspired. So pretty easy to see my designs but I try to make them a little bit more modern is kind of where my focus is on that.

So, you want me to know like, sorry, pause. Do you want to know like background information or like just if that's a good intro? Okay.

Andi (01:02.387)
Ha

Andi (01:07.175)
That's a good intro. Let me throw you a question so you can start telling us a little. No, no, no. That's, that's. Yeah.

Jessica Steele (01:15.692)
I didn't want to go too long and you being like, my gosh, this girl will not stop talking. Okay.

Tori (01:21.606)
No, we do want that

Jessica Steele (01:23.324)
Okay

Andi (01:26.651)
Okay, Jessica, tell us about your first quilt. How did you get started with this craft?

Jessica Steele (01:32.782)
All right, so my very first quilt was back in 2018 when my niece was born. I was looking for something to do, something to make her. And my mom actually was a quilter and she sewed all my clothes growing up, all my Halloween costumes. She was very crafty. And so she suggested, why don't you make her a quilt? And it's really interesting. It's always been something I've kind of.

been a little more resistant on. Like my mom would always fold me into projects and we'd start a sewing project together and inevitably she'd finish it for me because I liked the idea of it. I just never followed through with it. So I don't know what it was. Maybe I was being in my 30s. I finally wanted to finish a project myself, but I did it. And it was a little bit Lone Star baby quilt.

from Amy Smart's blog, which we went to the retreat last year and where we met each other and it was kind of a full circle moment to talk to her and be like, you were my my first quilt or I made my first quilt was one of your patterns. So yeah, so I think like everybody says, once I made that little baby quilt, the rest is history. I got I got the quilting bug and never stopped.

Tori (02:58.34)
Well how did you take it from a hobby into a business?

Jessica Steele (03:03.435)
Yeah, so to kind of go back a little bit, a lot of my professional background is in product development. So I actually I went to school for apparel merchandising, got that degree. I also got my sports MBA, if you know that, if that's a thing. But it's an MBA with a sports focus. So the sports thing has kind of always been lingering in the background. But then.

Right after I got that sports MBA, I went to work for a footwear company called Payless Shoesource. You may recognize the brand from back in the day. But I did athletic footwear in their athletic category for them for about six years. And then I also worked for Lee Jeans in their product development as well. So I kind of have always worked in kind of a product development mindset. And I had

After I made my first quilt, have my girls, they're six and four now. And so I think it was when my youngest was born, I was holding her for a nap on the couch and I found Elizabeth Chappell's podcast of Crafted Career. And like, it clicked and I was like, oh my gosh, I could actually.

use my product development brain from the past and kind of transition that into the quilting world. And so I kind of looked into her course and ended up taking it and released my first pattern in spring of 23. So it's kind of how that all kind of trickled together.

Andi (04:48.209)
Yeah, so was it intentional to keep your quilt designs focused on sports? And how did you decide on keeping so specific?

Jessica Steele (05:01.889)
Yeah, so the sports thing has just been like something that's followed me my entire life. I grew up, my great grandfather played collegiate sports and was a college coach and my grandfather was a college football coach. My dad was a college football coach. So it kind of just has been something I've known my whole life. And then I played sports growing up and all that. Obviously the sports NBA. So it's been kind of a theme throughout my life and I

Andi (05:28.797)
Yeah

Jessica Steele (05:32.237)
Initially thought, because I had made my girls their own baby milestone quilts. So I kind of modified one design to make my first daughters and then I kind of created my own design for my second. So I initially thought, oh, maybe, you know, baby milestone quilts could be something that I do. And then it just kept coming in the back of my mind. It kept the sports theme just kept coming back. And one thing I did notice

as I was starting out quilting is, you know, there's a lot of ways you can make a sports themed quilt. You can take just a you know, regular quilt pattern and just use your sports team logoed fabric or colors. And that's an easy way to do it. There are sports designs out there already, but I couldn't ever quite find one that I felt like I could display in my home.

to be something that would kind of fit in a more modern aesthetic and kind of just fold into my decor instead of being so in your face sports. So that's kind of where it kind of came. I mean, the sports thing was just nagging me and I was like, you know what? I can't, I always say I can't quit sports. So I was like, I'm gonna go with it and it's kind of stuck and I think.

Andi (06:54.227)
Hmm.

Jessica Steele (07:00.845)
I think a lot of people like it. think it's kind of, I hear a lot of feedback of like, my grandson would love this or, you know, a lot of kind of those like teenagers or young kids that are looking for a sports quilt that I don't want to say is like cool, but they really like that modern design for their kids and grandkids. So.

Tori (07:26.114)
I think it's a great niche because we tend to see questions in quilting groups are like, are there any quilt patterns that are good for men or for boys? And I think that your sports theme can kind of fit that as well as keep in a more modern feel of feminine sports quilts. So I feel like it's great combination of quilting and sports and also having an avenue for making men's quilts. So think it's a great niche. It's really cool.

Jessica Steele (07:46.049)
Mm-hmm.

Tori (07:56.04)
to see how you kind of created these designs and and like I'm just looking at the ones behind you and a few that I saw on your site and they are so interesting and there was one that you had on there that looked like a

I want to call it an orange peel. Like it's what it looked like in my head, but it was like football related or subtle and it wasn't like screaming football. Like you said, it was a subtle more modern design and you can still kind of see the footballs in there. And my husband's a huge football fan, so I could totally see that on our table whenever like he's a football, like football season. We have a sign that, that he put up. I don't know if it's up anymore. I don't think our house, this house has it anymore, but the ones that we used to have.

Jessica Steele (08:12.332)
Mm-hmm.

Tori (08:35.44)
military so we move a lot so all the houses the decoration kind of churns. So one sign he used to put up was this marriage has been interrupted by football season. He would only stand it up like a dream football and I could see me like when that sign comes up pulling out the table runner and just being like here you go I'm supporting your your love this sport.

Jessica Steele (08:44.266)
you

Yep.

Jessica Steele (08:54.002)
Yep, exactly. That was when my husband and I got married, we made it. He's a football fan, too, so it was easy. And my dad was still coaching at the time, so it was definitely no fall weddings in our family. Otherwise, he's not going to be there. So, but yeah, we eeked it in right at the beginning before I think he had to get a little permission slip to be gone from early practice for that season. But

But yeah, that's a very funny... Luckily my husband and I agree on the football thing. The whole family just kind of interrupts for football season.

Andi (09:35.535)
And people are so passionate, you know, like you said about their sports teams, and it ties back into how you were drawn to making milestone quilts because graduations...

high school sports celebrations, all of those things, you can really personalize your designs for any conceivable color scheme out there and make it meaningful for the athlete or the family member or, you know, however you want to celebrate that. So, very smart.

Jessica Steele (10:04.681)
Yeah.

Jessica Steele (10:10.848)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One thing I try to do with my designs is when I'm coming up with kind of the color placement is a lot of times most teams have at least two colors, right, that they identify there for themselves. So I like to have at least a two color option or maybe three to add in kind of a neutral there. But then another option that allows you to kind of play with the color a little bit more.

Like the hockey one behind me, there's a just a black and white two color option. But then this one is the four color where you can kind of play around with the the color arrangement to make it a little more interesting. Or sometimes teams will have those accent colors and they're they're colors that you can play around with in there. So as always in the back of my mind when I'm designing these to make sure that it works for that.

Andi (11:01.797)
Yeah. So you said you got started with pattern design through the quilt pattern writers course that quilters candy offers and she teaches illustrator. Was that your first experience with computer design? Are there any other programs that you like?

Jessica Steele (11:22.956)
I did use EQ8 early on. I haven't used it as much now that I'm kind of fully into Illustrator. It's funny, when I worked in back into Payless, we were using Adobe products in that world as well. But I resisted it so hard. We worked with a design team in New York and we said to call them up and be like, okay.

How do I do this again in Illustrator? And so now I'm much better with my Illustrator after taking her course. But a little EQ8, I kind of did the start off in graph paper when I made my girls' quilts and stuff back then. But yeah, just EQ8 graph paper and now mostly all in Illustrator.

Tori (12:14.874)
So you've mentioned your girls a couple of times. So I'm curious, because I also have two kids, one's three and seven. They're three and seven now. So I find that they take a lot of time. So are you doing your business? Is it full time on the side? And how are you squeezing it all in with having two kids?

Jessica Steele (12:23.692)
Yeah.

Jessica Steele (12:34.784)
Yeah, so this year is actually the first year. My youngest is in a full day pre-K program now. So it's kind of, I don't know what to do with my time a little bit now. It's nice, but prior to a month ago, my youngest did a little part-time thing. So I had a few hours here and there last week, or last year, but.

It's really nap times was where it was at initially. And then kind of we have a luckily my my sewing spaces in the basement and so right outside where my space is, kind of like the play area. So I was able to kind of do things where I could monitor like cutting or, you know, pressing or things like that, where I could kind of keep an eye and kind of do things at the same time. But really, it's just.

before I had actual time to work on it, just setting up like a 15 minute activity and then getting what I could get done in those little times and reminding myself that someday I will have all the time in the world and to still enjoy the time that they're little is kind of how I got through it. But now I'm like, I've got all the time in the world now until they get home from school.

Andi (13:55.325)
You

Andi (13:58.715)
Right, right, we do have to.

Tori (13:58.988)
Are you doing this? Sorry, I was curious. It sounds like you're doing it full time. Are you able to do your business full time?

Jessica Steele (14:03.264)
and

Jessica Steele (14:06.983)
Yes, I am now doing full time. It's been about a month, so it's been fun being able to have the time to know that I have the time to and being able to sit down and work on designs for more than 15 minutes at a time and without those small interruptions throughout the day. So it's really been nice to have, you know, I guess

seven hours a day. I think I'm at seven hours a day ish, six and a half.

Andi (14:41.681)
Yeah, that's awesome. I was just gonna say that it's nice to really commit to giving yourself grace and doing what you can each season of life knowing that it's not gonna be forever. very smart.

Tori (14:42.32)
I'm going to go the bathroom.

Jessica Steele (14:57.663)
Right, yeah, just knowing I can just, as long as I'm putting in one foot in for the other and just keeping it going in some way, no matter how much I'm getting done, it still will get there. Try not to stress about that.

Andi (15:13.979)
Right, I was just thinking the same thing as I was scrolling through social media and seeing all, you know, and you get in that comparison trap of, you know, they've had so much more success and blah blah blah and why, you know, if I would just do this or that and yeah, you can't. Don't should all over yourself.

Jessica Steele (15:33.375)
Yeah.

Jessica Steele (15:37.322)
Right, exactly. And I think one thing I did learn kind of along those lines with, you know, social media and all that, I do have a more active on Instagram of all of them. after a while, I kind of realized that with the designs that I'm making, Pinterest is kind of is a better place for me to be. Just with my designs being kind of more like search engine based, like

If you're making a if you want to make a soccer quilt, you're not going to just hope that you scroll through Instagram and come across a soccer quilt design. So I really tried to focus more on, you know, search engine optimization and Pinterest, but still having a little bit of a presence on Instagram. I know I won't ever be this huge presence because I think sports is a very niche thing. And unless you have a kid in soccer or you're played soccer yourself, you're not really.

making a ton of soccer quotes at a time. But yeah, so just kind of knowing where my lane is and kind of seeing what works for me has kind of helped me get out of those comparison things on the social media platforms. So that's been helpful.

Andi (16:37.797)
You

Tori (16:55.92)
That is so important. Thank you for sharing that. I'm wondering, do you have any help with your business or are you just a one woman show?

Andi (16:56.733)
there is.

Jessica Steele (17:01.003)
Yeah.

Jessica Steele (17:06.387)
It's just me. At this point in time, just me. I do use testers for my patterns and things. So I guess that's probably the only help I get. But yeah, all of the whole business is me at this point in time.

Andi (17:24.295)
That's great. One of the other things I have noticed that you've been involved with over the last couple of years are some pattern collaborations. Can you tell us a little bit about how those got started and what success you're seeing with that?

Jessica Steele (17:35.488)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica Steele (17:40.896)
Yeah, so my actually the first one I ever did, I started it. It was for the Summer Olympics last summer. And I, you know, obviously Olympics goes with the theme of sports, but I really wanted it to be something where it was kind of a collaboration from designers all over the world, because that's what the Olympics is, is bringing people together from all over the world. the goal was to find a designer from

nine different countries represented and I did it. I was so nervous that I couldn't find nine countries but so we had Spain and France and Serbia and from Europe we had Australia, Mexico, Thailand, Sandy from Thai term was in it, Mexico.

in Brazil. We had Brazil represented, I think. And then I was the United States. So that was really fun. I learned a lot. It was a lot of work to put that together. But from the design standpoint, all the designers I worked with were great. So that was easy working with them. But I think it was successful. I think we had at least about a little over 2,000 people.

participated and it was just the summer before the Olympics started. So I think we were finishing our tops as the opening ceremony started. So it was kind of to get people prepared and excited for the Olympics. So that was really fun to do. I mean, I think there would be a few things I'd modify for the next time, but overall it went pretty smoothly. And then

I was invited to do the nursery sampler this year with eight other designers. And that one was a little more difficult just from coming up with my design. Because it was very, you know, baby nursery oriented, which is kind of what I initially started doing design sport. so I had to kind of come up with something that related to sports in a way. And so I came up with a toy basket and

Jessica Steele (20:04.587)
what is every kid's first introduction to sports is throwing a ball and rolling a ball and bouncing a ball. And so that's kind of where my design came from from that. So that was been fun. It's Fiona and Lindsey from the Quilting Corner and Mamma Ymi Quilt Co. have been kind of organizing that. So and they've been really great about being.

great communicators and doing all that. So it's been easier on that end for me for this one. But I think we had maybe, I think definitely over 2000 people participated again this time, maybe more. I can't quite remember the number on this one, but it's been a great just exposure and kind of a way to build my email list and communicate with people about what's coming up and all that.

So it's been fun too.

Tori (21:01.328)
Do you think you'll participate in more of those in the future?

Jessica Steele (21:07.336)
I think so. Initially, I wanted to do continue doing the Olympic one. It probably will not happen for Winter Olympics because that's that's like three months away. So I think I'd like to at least continue doing the Summer Olympics one every year, however, that or every four years, however, that will take shape, especially because 28 will be in L.A. this year or the next.

Andi (21:16.883)
Coming up fast!

Andi (21:35.633)
the next round. Yeah.

Jessica Steele (21:35.818)
Summer Olympics will be in LA. So that will be fun. But yeah, think it'll, as long as it fits kind of what I'm doing, I think I'd love to continue participating in them.

Tori (21:50.074)
So I have a question about a deep about like hobby versus business. Do you save part of the quilting for yourself as still a part of your hobby or have you adopted other hobbies?

Jessica Steele (21:51.69)
Mm-hmm.

Jessica Steele (22:02.991)
I do. So I generally have like one random project going on. I like to call them palette cleansers. So like, especially after the launch of a pattern release, I like to do just a non thinking project for me. So I'm not thinking through what are the dimensions of this? How is this going to fit together? It's just following somebody else's directions to just kind of

Andi (22:13.916)
you

Jessica Steele (22:32.586)
clear my mind, but also kind of maybe learn new techniques. I'm actually, I did the 2024 temperature quilt with, Lindley from Plains and Pine, and that is like also a project that's, it's cut and ready to go. I just have it up on my wall, of chipping away at it. So my goal is to be finished with it by the end of 25. But yeah, I always like to have just one project in between to kind of.

cleanse my palette, if you will, and kind of learn a new technique.

Andi (23:05.755)
So what do you have? What do you have?

Tori (23:05.789)
And we see the... I was curious about the long arm. I was gonna ask about the long arm. you... it looks like you long arm your own projects, is that right?

Jessica Steele (23:10.144)
yeah.

I do, I do, I do have a long arm. And I think eventually now that I'm able to kind of do this part time, I'm hoping to maybe add in some long arming to the business as well. But she's right behind me here. I don't have a name for her yet, but I think that will come once we get to know each other a little bit more, maybe that will come come together. But I have a Bernina. So we have a my local quilt shop is a Bernina dealer. So

And they've been great, great service with them. So very, very happy. I'm also, you know, that's also another learning curve. So sometimes I'll in between projects, I'll tackle something new on the long arm, which has been fun to kind of enhance those those learning techniques in my brain.

Andi (24:06.161)
Yeah, that's really cool. I was going to ask what you have coming up because your hockey quilt was the latest release that I remember besides the samplers that you've been a part of. So what can we look forward to from Jessica's Steel Designs?

Jessica Steele (24:24.648)
Yeah, hockey was last spring and I did a of a mini release of like a scrappy football in September. But that was also kind of in partnership with the Quilted Summit. So part of it was free. But basketball is on the docket next. don't, my goal is to have it out before Christmas.

but I think it might be an after Christmas release for early 2026. So I do have a free pattern. I know, I know, it'd be great right before March Madness, get your basketball quilt ready to go. But actually my very first pattern I released before my baseball pattern was a free basketball wall hanging. So it's just been like, I'm like, I need to do a full size.

Andi (24:58.141)
Which madness is a great theme.

Jessica Steele (25:20.552)
basketball. Need to do full size basketball. So I think that will be coming next for sure. And then I've got there's very it's like almost how I've got all these ideas and they're kind of sketched out, but it's kind of whichever one comes together the best first. So there's a tennis one in there. I've got an idea for golf. There's been a lot of requests for lacrosse, which is

Andi (25:36.595)
You

Andi (25:48.423)
Stay.

Jessica Steele (25:50.03)
a less familiar sport for me. I never played lacrosse. It wasn't really around and I grew up in Iowa mostly. So it wasn't a really popular sport here. So that one is one that's like always in the back of my head of like, how could we make this work? And like, what do I need to learn about lacrosse? So hopefully that will be coming soon. But yeah, definitely basketball is is on the line next.

Andi (26:18.077)
How fun, fun, fun. Anything else, Tori?

Tori (26:23.384)
Now I'm ready for rapid fire. Are you guys ready for rapid fire?

Jessica Steele (26:25.423)
OK. Hopefully I can answer this.

Andi (26:28.913)
We start off by asking all our guests, what color do you struggle with the most? Because we love hearing about everybody's favorite colors, but there are some of those shades that are just tough. So what have you found difficult?

Jessica Steele (26:43.601)
always feel like orange is I tend to gravitate towards like a peachy orange. Like I just can't get away from a peachy orange or like anything kind of more true orange. Like it's funny it's my youngest favorite color so like I guess I better figure out orange.

Andi (27:06.035)
Right? And I would think there's a lot of schools that have orange as their shade, so you must be, you know, forced to deal with it. Especially with your basketball quilt coming up too.

Jessica Steele (27:14.057)
There are

Jessica Steele (27:18.801)
Yes.

I know. Well, that's another challenge with basketball. I feel like all of my oranges I use are kind of like more of like in that peachy flavor of an orange. So it'll be interesting to see how I can kind of come up with some combinations there with the orange.

Tori (27:39.428)
So do you prefer yardage or pre-cuts?

Jessica Steele (27:42.939)
Yardage. I feel like I have more freedom with yardage, especially in my designs.

Andi (27:52.561)
Yeah, we see a lot of negative space for those that are on YouTube and can see the quilts behind it, Jessica, that it would be a little more difficult to get that effect from pre-cuts.

Jessica Steele (28:04.423)
Yes. Yep. Yep.

Andi (28:08.723)
So what is your favorite notion or a tool that you can recommend to folks?

Jessica Steele (28:14.889)
Hmm. It's a good question. This is going to be really random, but it's my ruler holder, my ruler handle. I feel like people probably know what that is, but it's like I have to have it on my long ruler. I feel like my cutting is more accurate. So it's just that like suction cup. I think you can get like a shower handle to use for that. But I think that's.

probably like the one thing, random thing that I use every time I cut yardage. So I would recommend that. It's great, it keeps your fingers out of the way, but I also feel like it helps me have a better pressure on the center of the fabric while I'm cutting. So there's not as much slipping and everything on the ruler when I'm doing that.

Andi (29:03.567)
That is a wonderful recommendation. I don't think we've had anyone recommend something like that. So we'll definitely get a link for one of those products for people.

Jessica Steele (29:09.438)
good, good.

Tori (29:13.572)
Yeah, I'm like ready to go search shower handles. I didn't realize that's what that was. I've them but haven't like looked at them, looked at them.

Jessica Steele (29:16.443)
Yeah, I think, I can't remember, I think it might be Clover is the brand that I have. I can't remember what the brand was, but there is like an actual sewing company that has a product, but you can also use a suction cup shower handle if you can't find one.

Tori (29:36.18)
That's good to know. So our next question is who is inspiring you right now? And they don't have to be in the quilting world.

Jessica Steele (29:43.882)
that's a good question. This is kind of quilting. It's quilting, quilting related. Emily Vanhoff is does all the 3D kind of quilting art. I just like can't stop looking at her stuff. And now she has her fabric lines out there, too. I think she's with Moda now. So I just love her use of color and shape and.

her like art that she creates out of her quilting. I just can't stop looking at it.

Andi (30:19.667)
Great, we'll have to look her up. What is your favorite part of having a quilt business?

Jessica Steele (30:30.025)
My favorite part would be the flexibility to also be with my family the way that I want. I probably get a lot of that answer from other people, but really now that my girls are both in school, I'm able to work when they're in school and then when they're home, I can be fully present now.

with them and have the flexibility to pick them up when they're sick. And, you know, there's not other people per se, depending on me to do my work that day, I can kind of rearrange my schedule, how I need to to accommodate those things. So the flexibility is great.

Andi (31:15.229)
Yeah, I would say that is probably the number one reason people jump into business for themselves is because they really want that flexibility and it is wonderful to be present for your kids when they're young.

Jessica Steele (31:19.549)
Yeah.

Jessica Steele (31:28.776)
Yes.

Tori (31:29.538)
Our last rapid fire question for you is how many quilts are in the room with you right now?

Jessica Steele (31:35.893)
Ooh, that's a good question. Including top quilt tops. Okay. Okay. Let's see. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 that I can see there's a lot hanging in my closet over here to a lot of finished quilt tops that I need to get quilted on the long arm. And then I also

Andi (31:41.413)
If you wanna count that high.

Andi (31:58.481)
Right.

Jessica Steele (32:04.049)
So we have two bedrooms in the basement that are my space. So my cutting room also has some, but I can't see those right now. That's kind of my main store, finished quilt storage area.

Andi (32:11.346)
Hahaha!

Andi (32:16.819)
that's been wonderful. So before we sign off, Jessica, tell people where they can find you.

Jessica Steele (32:24.263)
Yeah, so my website is jessicasteeledesign.com. So everything's on there. Otherwise, Instagram is just jessicasteeledesign. I do have a Facebook page that kind of Instagram pushes to, which is also jessicasteeledesign. And then Pinterest and YouTube are also jessicasteeledesign.

Andi (32:45.543)
So anywhere you want to find her, that's great. Thanks so much.

Tori (32:45.572)
Perfect.

Jessica Steele (32:47.655)
Yeah.

Tori (32:49.154)
It's S-T- I'm sorry, I just want to put S-T-E-E-L-E. There's the yammy. And we will put that in the caption, or in the show notes.

Jessica Steele (32:53.799)
Yes, correct.

Perfect, thanks Tori.

Andi (33:01.127)
Alright, anything else before we go?

Jessica Steele (33:05.64)
This was fun. I love this. You guys are great. Should we do this again? No. Like this was just so fun to talk to you guys.

Andi (33:12.403)
Anytime, yeah. Yeah, if you-