Burnout Isn’t Normal: How to Recognize It, Prevent It, and Recover with Kelsey Sorenson

Feeling exhausted no matter how much you rest? Snapping more easily? Struggling to feel motivated, even with things you used to enjoy?

You might be experiencing burnout… and not even realize it.

In today’s episode, I’m joined by Kelsey Sorenson, a former teacher turned homeschool mom, certified life coach, author, and founder of Educate & Rejuvenate. Through her work, she helps women simplify their lives, rediscover balance, and actually enjoy the life they’re building.

Together, we’re having an honest conversation about burnout: what it really looks like, why it’s become so common, and how to know if what you’re feeling goes deeper than just being “tired.”

Because here’s the truth:
Just because burnout is common… doesn’t mean it’s normal.

And more importantly: there is a way out.

In This Episode, We Cover:

• What burnout actually is (and how it’s different from everyday stress or fatigue)
• Why so many women are experiencing burnout—and thinking it’s just part of life
• Subtle (and not-so-subtle) signs you might be burned out
• How burnout impacts your energy, mood, motivation, and even your relationship with food
• The connection between overwhelm, people-pleasing, and chronic exhaustion
• Practical ways to prevent burnout before it happens
• What to do if you’re already burned out and don’t know where to start
• Simple mindset shifts to help you slow down, reset, and feel like yourself again

Burnout isn’t something you just have to push through or accept as your “new normal.” When you learn how to recognize it and respond differently, you can create a life that feels sustainable, energizing, and actually enjoyable again.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hello, ladies, and welcome back to another episode of the Isn't She Powerful podcast. I'm so excited to have you here with me today because I have another guest episode for you. Today we are talking with Kelsey Sorensen. And Kelsey is absolutely incredible. She is a former teacher, just like I am, but she is now a life coach and she has founded a company called Educate and Rejuvenate. And you maybe have even found me through knowing Kelsey because I've been a part of the annual conferences that she has. I've been a speaker at her annual conferences a few times. So you may know us together already, but Kelsey's program and everything that she does is really wonderful because it helps the women that she serves to create this life balance. It's not just about being a teacher in her world, but we're gonna talk about some of this today. It's not just for educators, like what we're talking about today applies to every job, everything. It's like we want to put who we are in this neat little box of like, oh yeah, I'm a teacher or I'm a nurse or I'm a firefighter or whatever it may be. We like to put who we are in these little boxes, and we are so much more than that, right? Like we also are mom, we also are somebody who goes to the gym, we also are so many more things. We also go to church and we also like to sing songs in our car, and we also are so many more things than just who we put ourselves in a box as, as our career. And so her entire mission is to help people find that balance of who they are, who they want to be outside of their job, and just creating that true, like I can be somebody. I I can I can be a teacher, for example, as as what she and I were. I can be a teacher and I can be something else. That's why her brand is educate and rejuvenate. I can be an educator and somebody else. So today in this conversation, we're actually talking about burnout. We are going to really dig into what burnout feels like, what it looks like for us. We are gonna talk about nervous system regulation and how we can begin regulating our nervous system so that we don't get burnt out, or if we already are burnt out, we can begin to rejuvenate ourselves and bring ourselves back to health, true, genuine health from the inside out. There's something that Kelsey talks about in this episode that really stuck with me. She talked about how burnout is not about something external. We like to believe, like, oh my job burnt me out. So if I get rid of my job, then everything would be fine and dandy. Oh, my relationship burnt me out. So if I can get rid of this relationship, I will be happy again. Burnout is not outside of us, it is within us. So even whenever you leave that job, if you are burnt out, you're still gonna be burnt out whenever you leave the job. If you leave the relationship, you're still gonna be burnt out when you leave the relationship. You know, you have to change who you are on the inside if you want to truly heal yourself. It's healing from the inside out, and that's what we're gonna speak about today. So I'm so excited for you to hear this conversation. Let's go on right now and let's welcome Kelsey to the podcast. Welcome to the Isn't You Powerful Podcast. I'm your host, Laura B, health coach, educator, and founder of the Be Healthy Lifestyle. I'm here to bring you all of the health education and motivation so that you can sign off each week feeling equipped and empowered to tackle all of your health goals. Come along with me as I teach you the basics of healthy living so that you can have everyone in your life say, Isn't she powerful? Hello, Kelsey, and welcome to the Isn't She Powerful Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so thrilled to be here. We've been chatting about this for I mean, I I guess that was I on your podcast or were you on mine? I don't even I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_02 3:59

I was on your podcast back whenever we did the event, what, last summer or two summers ago? And then I reposted. I don't know, you've done a few with me now.

SPEAKER_01 4:08

That's right. Perfect. Yeah, so we get to chat again, and it's going to be we're going to be chatting about burnout today. So if you're really burned out, you're in the right place.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Oh, yes. You know, I'm really excited to have this conversation because burnout is something that I feel like we don't even realize we're feeling. It's so normalized.

SPEAKER_01 4:26

Yeah, it absolutely is. Like, I think it's almost like a badge of honor for so many of us. It's like, oh, I was so overwhelmed. Look at all the things I'm doing. Look at how important I am, and I'm feeling so overwhelmed. And we don't mean to, it's just like we we're in a society that praises that, that praises the go, go, go, the constantly doing. And burnout is actually just a symptom, is what I even talk about in my masterclass. Like it's what we feel, it's what we notice. It's like if you have a headache, right? There are a lot of underlying reasons for it, but the headache is like what's loud, what's calling to you, but maybe you're dehydrated, maybe you didn't get enough sleep, maybe there are lots of causes for it. And so with burnout, it's usually the cause of that is we're disconnected from ourselves. And we'll get to that. I'm like getting ahead of myself, but yeah, it's what so many of us are experiencing. Um there's a little teaser.

SPEAKER_02 5:13

Yeah, that was a perfect teaser because now I'm like hanging on every word. I want to know what are you talking about? That sounds exciting. So keep listening. Okay, well, let's start here. Kelsey, you used to be a teacher just like me, which is kind of how we found each other. What led you to leaving teaching and doing what you're doing now?

SPEAKER_01 5:32

Well, for one, I mean, there were two reasons. My like excuse was that I was having a baby, right? And I'm like, okay, now I get to leave the classroom and be a stay-at-home mom, and everything's going to be so easy. Now anybody who's ever been a stay-at-home mom knows that that's not easy either. But I thought that the classroom was the cause of my burnout. And a lot of us think whether in the classroom or whether you are working as a nurse or a firefighter or you own your own business or you're retired, whatever, we think that something outside of us is the cause of our burnout. So I thought as soon as I leave teaching, I'm going to feel so much better. But what happened is I still brought me with me. I still brought my patterns with me. So even as I started as a stay-at-home mom and then realized, you know what, I actually need to do something else too, and started my business kind of on accident. I don't know how much you're wanting to get into each part. But with that, I realized, like, oh, it wasn't just teaching. Over the years, eventually, I had a big wake-up call that led me into doing even more of the work I'm doing now.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

I really love that you're like pointing out the fact that it's not about the job. It's not about the job. So you're right. So often we want to blame it on what we're doing, how many responsibilities we have, but talk more about how you realize, no, I'm the problem. It's me.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Hi. Yeah, well, it took me a while. It took me a while. Oh, yeah, I'm a Swifty. Like that song, anti-hero. Yeah, it is like the most like self-aware song out there. Because when we can realize where it is our patterns, it's not what's outside of us. Like, and there are things outside of us we can't control, such as like right now, so many of us are stressed about gas prices going up, the economy, you know, all these things that aren't in our control. And I'm not denying that. I'm also not denying that for me, for example, teaching is a stressful job. And there are things, there are demands, there is testing, there are conferences that are parents who can be demanding, but there are there is the part we can control. It's finding that space between the stimulus and response, right? So I don't know. Have you heard the popular quote? It's attributed to Victor Frankel, but it's like in between stimulus and response, there is a space. In the space lies your power to choose, in that space lies your growth and your freedom. It's often attributed to Victor Frankel, similar to things he said in his book, Man's Search for Meaning, but you don't actually know if it was him. But I love that quote. I use it all the time with my members in Educate Rejuvenate Club because what we are doing is creating that space. We are, because that space isn't going to happen. Otherwise, there's going to be the stimulus, we're going to have our instant thoughts, our instant nervous system reaction, and go into our default patterns. And if we don't create a space to notice, to choose, my my coaching framework is observe, choose, align. So if we don't take that time to observe, so we can consciously choose what we want, it's going to just run into our default patterning, which may or may not create what we want in our lives, in our job. It might be leading us to burnout.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

That's a I always there's a quote that I like to say to my clients. It's there's power in the pause. And that's essentially what you're saying there. It's like take a minute and make an active choice rather than just immediately reaching for your phone, immediately reaching for the sugar. Take a minute and pause and ask yourself, what do you actually need in this situation?

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Yeah, the pause is so, so powerful. It's really where where our control lies, where we if we can stop, we're in such a like go, go, go, like I need to do the next thing. I tie my identity, my worth to how many things I check off my to-do list. So I gotta just my work my way through that until I feel exhausted and I plop on the couch at the end of the day. But we don't stop and question that like, is my worth tied to me getting all these things done? Do all these things actually need to get done today? Because some of them be done tomorrow, could some of them be done next week? Do some of them need to be done at all? Or is our default brain just telling us they have to be done? Or done in a certain way that's more complicated?

SPEAKER_02 9:15

I remember when I was teaching, I used to make I used to be really, really good about having like a Monday to-do list, a Tuesday to-do list, and then whenever I transitioned into owning my own business, it's like I have one giant to-do list, and I just feel like I need to get all of that stuff done immediately.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah, and so many of us do. And again, I'm guilty of this myself, but I just try to notice when I'm like in that, like I have to get all the things done. And then I'm like, wait, stop. Let's observe like what is on my to-do list, let's choose what do I actually need to do right now. And I actually run my clients through the covey, um, what is it, the the matrix, the urgency matrix. Have you heard that?

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

So where we look at what actually needs to be done, what doesn't, what we can delegate, what we decide can be done later, actually sign a time for it so our brain can relax. And then what can we just completely delete off that list? There is always something.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Yeah, because you're right. There's always these external expectations of us, expectations from society, or you know, what is expected of me as a wife, as a daughter, as a mother. I'm not one, but I know most of the people listening to this, a lot of them are. And so there's so many external things that there's pressures being put on us from everyone else, making us feel like we have to do all of these things. And yes, that's when we I think have to do the check-in. Is this something I actually have to do, or do I feel like I should be doing this?

SPEAKER_01 10:34

Yes, and and for me, like, so I'm a mom of three, and one thing we've been doing since 2019 is homeschooling. And for the past few years, it has just been to run my business and to homeschool and everything. It's been a challenge, and there were times where I was questioning, like, should we do it? But my husband was like, No, I still want us to, but finally this year I was like, This is our last year, like I can't do this anymore. So now we have our kids enrolled in school for next year, and there's like a season for different things, and it's really like this was another thing on my list. It's like, do I have to do this? Are my kids actually getting the best education? Like, really questioning that at home right now with a mom who's working full-time, or would it be better for all of us if I'm able to get their work done while they're at school and then more present when they're at home instead of being together and feeling scattered, right? So that was where I like use my own coaching framework, and it was like observe, choose, align. I'm you know, observe like this is what's happening, this isn't what I want to be happening, and chose like, okay, like this is what we're doing next year. And for now, what we're going to do, I'm like, I'm enjoying it, and we're also lowering the pressure and everything to enjoy the rest of this year. But then, you know, it's when you tie any part of that to your identity too much, like, oh, I'm a homeschool mom. Like, I've been saying that on my webinars for how long now that I'm a former teacher, now homeschool mom, and now that era is coming to an end.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

But but it's okay, right? It it's there's a time and a season for everything. We don't have to do everything all the time.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Yeah, it's like giving yourself permission to do the thing that is going to take some pressure off of you. It's okay to do things that take pressure off of you.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

Absolutely. And I I love where we're going, and then I'm like, wait, I didn't actually finish the story of how did I realize like that I needed to. So um, if I were to go back to that, I thought leaving teaching was the answer, right? And then I realized that I actually liked working. I liked something to kind of stimulate my mind in a different way. And my first child, he was an excellent napper. So um gave you a lot of free time. And and actually, first I did start subbing too because I wanted to, like my sister-in-law would watch them once a week. So once a week I would sub and I realized that a lot of times I wasn't left enough plans for that would actually last the whole the whole day. But I had also been a teacher and I knew like how big of a pain creating sub plans was. So I started making ready-to-go sub plans and putting them on teachers pay teachers, and that's what started me in the online business world is actually just creating online resources for teachers and eventually branched out into other things for like homeschooling parents, like during COVID, it was home learning packets and things like that. But then what I really realized in 2019 was that that burnout came with me as I was running this company. So I had my third child and I was diagnosed with postpartum anxiety. But what I thought it was when I went to the ER was a heart attack. Like I thought I was literally dying. I hadn't slept for 36 hours, and my body just kept jolting and waking me up again. It was really scary. And while they diagnosed me with postpartum anxiety, I knew it was just like an exaggeration of a pattern I'd had my whole life. Like having this anxiety of, you know, like I mean, ever since I was a little girl. Like, even like I live in Utah, we had these mountains, and like we'd learn about earthquakes, and I'd be terrified for weeks. I would be terri we'd learn about volcanoes in school, and I'd be terrified one of the mountains was a volcano and these things would consume me, right? Like I'd had these patterns since I was a little girl. And so I knew that I didn't want to keep worrying my life away. I wanted to enjoy my life. And it was really a wake-up call at that moment. Like that was in 2019. So I got on medication, I started therapy, and then a few months later I was asked to join a committee that I didn't feel like I had the capacity to say no at all. And and how many of your listeners, I bet a lot of them, have felt like, how do I say no to something? Like it's kind of that like reason why on our to-do list we have so much, because some of the things we add is some of the things we add because we say yes to everything to other people, right? We're we're comic people pleasers, and and I talk about the reason for this is because, like, again, if you look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs, like we love and belonging comes before self-esteem and self-actualization. We actually need that love and belonging. So if we think we can only have love and belonging or our own esteem and self-actualization, we will choose love and belonging every time. But what we have to discover is the and, and that's a lot of what I talk about, like in educate and rejuvenate. We really look at that and and that you can have both. You can have love and belonging, and you can still say no when you need to. You can teach and have a life outside of it, or fill in teach with whatever it is that you do. But anyway, so I couldn't say no. So I found a life coach who helped me through it and started learning all these different tools that were helping me be able to start setting boundaries, to be able to start saying no, to be able to like really examine my thoughts, tune into my feelings, regulate my nervous system. She was incredible. And then COVID hit, and I like was serving my audience. Like, what products do you need me to make? And we're doing an event. What do you want there? And it was the biggest problem cannot be solved by another printable. Like, those are great, they'll save you time, but they don't help with the stress. They don't help with the burnout. They like help with maybe a moment of like, okay, I can breathe a sigh of relief about my subplans, but they don't help with that the stress that comes along with it, even completing that stress cycle and everything else. So that is when I decided to certify as a coach and bring in coaching to what we do as well. And I've been doing that since, oh, 2022. So yeah, it's been quite the quite the journey, and I've been coaching teachers since then. And but really everything we do applies to whether you're a teacher, whether you are a business owner, a parent, work in any field. It's really, I mean, if you're a human with a brain and a nervous system and a body, all of this stuff applies, you know.

SPEAKER_02 16:10

Yeah, a hundred percent. Because think about I know that there are hundreds of people who are listening right now who are identifying so much with your story, even if they're not a teacher, even if they're not even working anymore, they're still feeling the pressures from the outside world. We're still feeling like the doom and the gloom and the world's crashing down around us, and it's impacting our sleep, and it's impacting our ability to be present with people, and it's impacting our life on deeper levels, more than just yes, you know, oh yeah, I'm not feeling my best today. No, it goes beyond that. That's what burnout is. It's like whenever it goes deeper than that.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

Yes, yeah. It's kind of like Brene Brown, she talks about like stress is like there's a lot of demands, but you're able to handle it. And overwhelm is when you're feeling overblown from it. And I feel like burnout is even a level beyond that. It's like you just can't, like you're hardly functioning, but you are, but you're maybe stuck in a constant stress cycle of fight, flight, or even fawning, which is people pleasing. And your nervous system like really doesn't spend much time in that homeostasis place where you're regulated.

SPEAKER_02 17:13

Yeah, I feel like the conversation around nervous system is becoming more and more common, which I'm so grateful for from a personal level, but then also for the people that I'm serving, like this needs to be a conversation, especially when it comes to health and wellness, which is what I do. If your nervous system isn't regulated, then it doesn't matter if you're going to the gym, it doesn't matter if you're eating healthy, well-balanced meals. If your nervous system isn't regulated, that is the bottom line. That's what we got to fix first.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Well, I can attest to that because even two years ago, I was strength training every day, I was counting my macros and I was not losing weight. And it's because I was so stressed with. I mean, for me, I'm talking to the business owners out there, my the revenue had gone down. I had this team that I felt like I had to support and everything. And so I had all this pressure on myself that I was never regulated. And so even I was not able to release that weight because my nervous system would not let me.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

That's where I want to take the conversation next. Then we've talked about okay, you were losing sleep, you weren't able to sleep, you were going to the gym and your nervous system still, you know, you weren't regulated and you had all this pressure on you.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Yeah, I mean, I was pushing too hard at the gym. My body was like a hundred percent.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Sometimes we put yeah the we put too much weight on one thing, thinking that that's what's gonna solve it, and that's just adding more pressure to us. Yeah. So then my question for you, Kelsey, is what are some of the things that we pe you started doing? I want to know about you personally. Yeah. What are some of the things that you started doing to regulate your nervous system and help with this burnout that you were experiencing?

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Well, one thing I had to do is really focus even more, and it's reflected in my work, like focus more on the nervous system piece and regulation. Um, I did a coaching program. Again, like even as a coach, I invest in other coaching programs that was really specifically tied to what my biggest worries were, but also the nervous system. So with that, and working through that and working through just learning different tools to help me regulate. And and some of them are so simple, like taking deep breaths, pushing your feet into the ground, swaying back and forth, taking a moment to take a pause more often. And it started with removing some more off my to-do list. And sometimes it is you need to change some external circumstances so that your nervous system can feel safe. So for me, it did look like I had overhired, I had to cut a lot of expenses, which included having some hard conversations that I didn't want to do. But sometimes that's what you have to do. Sometimes you do have to take care of yourself in order. Like if you are giving from a cup that doesn't even have anything, and you just keep giving and giving and giving, your body is going to shut down.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Totally. You're gonna get eventually to the point where your body is going to just make you stop. You're gonna have to stop. Like you having to go to the hospital. Like that was your body saying, listen, girl, we've tried to tell you, but if you're not gonna listen to us, we're gonna make you listen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

It and that's what it was. It's kind of like if you like don't listen to the pebbles that are thrown at you, like, hey, here are the little things, like then you're gonna get a boulder, you know, and it's going to wake you up. So hopefully, if you're listening to this podcast and you maybe notice, like, oh, there's some little pebbles, there's some rocks being thrown at me that are like signals of something going wrong. Like maybe I'm feeling burnt out. Maybe listen to those now so you don't end up with the big boulder of ending up in the ER or I don't know, whatever it might look like for you, right? Like make a big, like, you know, I I know people who've had to sell homes or, you know, leave marriages or have drastic changes that maybe if they would have like paid attention sooner, they could have maybe resolved some of those things, right?

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Yeah, and I think that's a really good point and and kind of goes back to what you were talking about earlier of it's not the job, it's not necessarily the marriage, it might be the marriage, but like, and it might be the job and it and there might be external things you want to change when you choose and you check in from a regulated place, yeah. Right. But at the end of the day, if you are a dysregulated person, if you are burnt out as a human, then leaving your job and changing that external factor isn't gonna change who you are. So we have to problem solve from the inside out.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Absolutely, yeah. I mean that that's really what it comes down to.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

It really is, and I think that it's one of those things that's a hard pill to swallow. We don't want to have to, you know, it it'd be so much easier if I could just change my environment and the problems would go away. But that is not always the case.

SPEAKER_01 21:33

Well, and when think about it, when you are in a frantic, dyspulated place, you don't make the best decisions that are like what you actually truly want. You make the decision that's what's going to make this go away the fastest, or I'm going to avoid this altogether, or like your brain wants to run away from pain. Even more than it actually wants to be happy or get you what you want long term, if again, it's just the path of least resistance that we're going to automatically go on. So if we don't take that chance to create that pause. Which we want to make sure we're regulated. And then we want to look at our thoughts. We want to look at our deeper beliefs. We want to check in on how we're what are the most common feelings we're having on a day-to-day basis? Are those what we're wanting to have? All of those different things we can check in with. And even just asking the question, what do you want? And you can get more specific with it. Like, what do I want with my career? What do I want in my marriage? What do I want in my job? What do I want with for my health? And so often we don't take the time to pause and actually know what we if we don't know what we want, then how are we ever going to get there if we don't clarify what it is and if we don't check in with ourselves? And sometimes it changes too. Like maybe at one point, I know like a lot of people listening to your podcast, it's all about health. Maybe at one point all they wanted was those washboard six-pack abs and it was all about how they look. And then maybe now it's like, I don't even care about that. I just want to be able to play with my grandkids. I just want to be able to go up the stairs without feeling winded. Like things like that.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

A hundred percent. And your goals are allowed to change. I think that's what the point of this podcast has been so far. I think that's a big takeaway is that you're allowed to change, you're allowed to evolve and be somebody different. And like what's worked in the past doesn't have to keep working. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

And also there's nothing wrong with the washboard abs goal either. I'm like, you go, girl. Like, go for that. That's right. But it's just tuning in. It's like if that's no longer, like you, your mind can change. Like for me, I wanted a seven-figure business. Like that was like, it was all about the revenue. It was all about, yes, like that is a status symbol. Everyone's going for that. And when I get that, I'm and like it was really honestly type when I asked myself why, it's like, oh, because people make a big deal about that, because it means that my that I'm making a bigger impact, that my business matters. And then I like questioned that and I was like, wait, is that really what I want? Do I really especially if it comes at the expense of my health? Especially if like the numbers of profitability aren't helpful or healthy, you know? Yes. Like, what is it I really want? And what I realized is what I want is I want to serve teachers, I want to feel good about it, I want to enjoy my life, and I want to have time for family and have a balanced life and have time for my health, have have my like working out actually do something because I'm not so burned out that I'm just, you know, shutting my body down, right? So once I actually got clear on that, it was like, okay, yeah, like that wasn't actually what I wanted. And I was allowed to change that, you know?

SPEAKER_02 24:16

Yeah. So what are some of those things that you currently do to maintain a regulated nervous system now that you have a more regulated nervous system?

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Yeah. Well, I meditate very often. I have like several meditation apps. I do meditations with my members too. And um, so it's actually really funny because I can like put on a replay of my myself doing a meditation, which is hilarious when it's your own voice leading you through a meditation. Pretty awesome. But highly recommend that. But meditating, again, investing in coaching that helps me to remember these things that creates that pause that oh, I don't have time for a coaching call today. I need to do this. It's like, no, I do. This is just as important as you know, the things on my to-do list. I've also tried to, again, just like I mentioned, lighten my to-do list. Like, I feel like for so long I was expecting so many things to get done. And now I'm like, okay, what actually needs to get done? Like I talked about with um before this call is like we're simplifying our summer event we're doing this year. We're going to have fewer speakers, we're going to, it's going to be shorter, it's going to be actually more impactful that way. So it's really like, what is most important? And how do I do that the best because you're eliminating the noise? And that's kind of what I've tried to do in everything. So, so yeah, that that would be my answer to that.

SPEAKER_02 25:32

I think it's something I've had to learn to realize is that bigger isn't always better. It's not always better to say, you know, my husband comes home at the end of the day. What all did you do today? If I said just two things, he would be like, Great job. I'm so proud of you for doing that. But I feel like I need to say 20 things. I need to have this long list of everything that I accomplished today. And that is not the case. Like, we don't have to be doing all of these things all the time. You're allowed to just do a couple things a day, and that'd be more than enough. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:01

Like me a couple years ago would have like panicked that I did hardly anything before we recorded this podcast today. And I actually emailed you yesterday and asked if we could change the time because I was feeling a little under the weather. Two years ago, me would have pushed through and made sure I was ready at 8.15 in the morning. And then me now was like, I'm gonna just email. Maybe she can do a bit later. And you could, you were flexible. And so now we're doing it in the afternoon. And I was able to have a slower morning and get ready and answer a few emails and do this podcast and have some time with my kids. Like, and I'm doing fewer things, but I feel like what I'm doing is what's important.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

100% agree. I appreciate you so much for sharing everything that you did in this episode. And Kelsey, I'd love for you to share where people can learn more about you, where people can learn from you, because I know that you have some really amazing events that you do. Your coaching work is obviously wonderful. So can you please share a little bit about your work and where people can find more about you?

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yes, so um, you can find me at educateandrejuvenate.com is my website, educate and rejuvenate on Facebook, Instagram, the podcast, all the things. It's really easy to find. It's just educate and rejuvenate everywhere because I'm all about you being able to teach or whatever you do. Even if you're not a teacher, still follow along. I love connecting with people outside of teaching as well. In fact, I've always I've kind of been like, How how could I like expand this outside of teaching while still keeping like that's one thing that's kind of on my mind because I do love chatting with just women of all kinds, like in this in this burnout, right? So follow me even if you don't teach. I have a book called Educate and Rejuvenate, and I do a live masterclass. Um, most months, depending on when you're listening to this in the month of June, we don't do it because we're doing our summer event. But if you go to educateandrejuvenate.com slash masterclass, I'll get you the link to put in the show notes. But I teach a live masterclass where I go through my full coaching framework with you, like the observe, choose, align, the self-coaching model I use, different ways to regulate, um, more in depth than we were able to do here. So definitely check that out. It's free. And then yeah, if you're listening in June, come check out the summer event. And yeah, I don't have much info about that yet, but by the time you're listening, there will probably be more.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

We'll check the link, it'll be just fine. Yes. Yay. Well, thank you so much for sharing. Your story was impactful, and the thing that's gonna stick with me the most is that it's not always the environment, it is within me. It is my internal environment that is the most important, and I have to prioritize that. I hope that all of the listeners take that away. And for everybody who's listening, I would love for you to come find Kelsey or come find me on social media and share your biggest takeaways because I don't know about you, Kelsey, but I always love to hear from people who've listened to my podcast or listen to me on other people's podcasts. I just want to hear what people hear from me. Oh, totally. Amazing. All right, Kelsey, thank you for being on the podcast. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much. I can't wait to see you again next week. And always remember the more you know, the more you grow.