The Word Became Flesh
Welcome to "The Word Became Flesh," where we focus on John 1:1 and dive into the transformative power of Scripture. Join us on a journey of spiritual discovery as we explore how the Word of God can reconnect us with our faith, inspire us to deepen our relationship with Him and build a supportive community of believers. Each episode features heartfelt testimonies from guests whose lives have been changed by the Word, offering insights and encouragement to listeners on their spiritual paths. Whether you're seeking guidance, inspiration, or simply a sense of belonging, "The Word Became Flesh" is here to guide you on your journey of faith. Tune in and let the Word come alive in your life.
The Word Became Flesh
Church Hurt/Prosperity
What happens when your deepest wounds become the birthplace of your greatest prosperity? Meet Roseline Sarah, CEO and co-founder of The Flourish, whose journey from church-hurt pastor's kid to successful business owner illuminates the unexpected path to generational wealth. Growing up under the microscope of ministry life, she experienced firsthand how church communities often expect their spiritual leaders to remain financially humble, even struggling. “People in the church feel like their pastor should be poor,” she explains, recounting how this mindset shaped her early relationship with money. Despite her parents' faithful service, financial stability remained elusive, creating patterns that followed her into adulthood. Every time wealth seemed within reach, something would snatch it away, creating what she describes as "a bondage of poverty" over her life. The turning point came through an unexpected prophecy: God would make her wealthy within five years. This word arrived precisely when her financial situation was at a breaking point. Debt collectors calling daily and resources depleted. Standing on Genesis 26:12 -13, Roseline Sarah began daily declarations: "Roseline Sarah prospered and continued prospering until she became very, very, very prosperous." Despite circumstances suggesting otherwise, she held on to this promise.
Her business journey reveals the messy reality of faith-driven entrepreneurship. After initially resisting business as "too secular," Roseline Sarah co-founded a marketing agency that now helps other businesses flourish. Through dry seasons, major setbacks, and moments of questioning, it was the word of God that sustained her. “If I didn't have that word to stand on, there would be no Flourish today." For anyone navigating church hurt or struggling to build a business aligned with their faith, Roseline Sarah's testimony offers profound hope. Her spiritual breakthrough came when she surrendered her independent spirit and embraced divine favour, allowing God to become her provider rather than striving to meet every need herself.
This podcast shines a light on how our areas of greatest affliction often become our greatest anointing. If we'll allow God to transform ashes into beauty. Discover how you too can declare prosperity over your circumstances and watch God turn your deepest wounds into wells of generational wealth. Your business isn't just a venture, it's a divine assignment backed by heaven's resources.
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Welcome to the Word Became Fresh podcast. Saint, happy Monday. This is your last Monday of the month. Welcome to July. Let us open up with the word of prayer before we go forward. Okay, we know we're all about Jesus here, we're all about the presence of God. So I love the presence of God to be in this place. Let us open up with the word of prayer.
Speaker 1:Father, in the mighty name of Jesus, lord, we want to say thank you. Thank you, lord, for the month of January. Thank you, jesus, for the month of January. Thank you, jesus, for the month of February. Thank you, lord, for the month of March. Oh God, thank you, jesus for the month of April. Thank you, lord, for the month of May and thank you, jesus, for June. My Father, god and Lord, now you are brought into the month of July.
Speaker 1:Father, we are so grateful, mighty God, we are grateful for your love. We are grateful for your love. We are grateful for your caring. Oh God, we are grateful for how you carry us through. My Father, god, oh Lord, see how far the Lord has brought us. Holy Spirit, you are welcome in this place. Oh God, your presence is welcome in this place. Oh, jesus, your wisdom is welcome in this place, oh God, your joy is welcome in this place. Oh God, your peace is welcome in this place. Oh Lord, father, where your children are listening, my Father, god, lord, we unlock my Father God, the spirit of prosperity into their pockets. In the mighty name of Jesus, father, we're asking my Father God, let your prosperity begin to flow into the life. In the mighty name of Jesus, lord, we love you. My Father, god, we are so grateful, god, for your joy and your love and your peace, oh Lord, and your will be done, not our will, oh God, not our desire, but your will and your desire, mighty God, in Jesus' name we are prayed. Amen. Welcome Sens to your brand new month.
Speaker 1:Last month of June, we had an amazing, amazing guest speaker. We talk about identity crisis. Who is in control? Christ is in control of your identity. We had a wonderful guest speaker here. We had our sister Prisala.
Speaker 1:Our CEO was in the house and then today the Lord said Grace, there's going to be another CEO who's going to flow down from heaven. I said Jesus, who is it? I said God, who is it? So when God gave me this topic, it's like Grace, you got to be talking about church. Hurt. You got to be talking about prosperity, generation wealth, and I was like, ok, god, who is bringing us our generation wealth? Who is building generation wealth? Who is bringing who's building generation wealth?
Speaker 1:So today I have the privilege, guys, um, the privilege, to have another CEO in the house, in this building y'all. Okay, this CEO wears so many hat to me, okay, today, um, she's your CEO, but for me, um, she's the woman. She's behind all these cameras, okay, all these editing that you guys see, all this camera, all this editing that you guys see, guys, she is the woman. As I said, she wears so many hats to me, but I'm gonna let her introduce herself. I mean, to me she is my CEO, okay, and then to me, she's not my, she's not only my CEO. Like, she literally managed my life. She managed my life, she managed my emotion, okay. And also, I used to call her. I used to call her pastor Rose. I used to call her pastor Rose until when the Lord really corrected me very well, once I read the book, the five fold office book, but the only and the only doctor, the apostle of the Emmanuel at day.
Speaker 1:we see. Okay, once I read that book I was like, oh my goodness, she's not actually a pastor. I described a new identity in her. You know, she wear the apostle hat. You know, in ministry, in business, don't play y'all. Okay, I'm talking too much because I'm so excited because today I have the privilege she's not behind the camera Today. She's in our couch, in this couch, y'all, and then so I'm going to let her introduce herself before we even go more further. So, saint, please, let us welcome on this couch the only and the only, my CEO, roslyn Sarakapanga. Do you guys hear that? Roslyn Sarakapanga, don't forget the Sarah, she's in the building, y'all. Roslyn, welcome to the when we Came Flash podcast. Thank you, we're super excited. We Came Flash podcast. Thank you, we're super excited to have you here. Thank you, please allow the word to know who is Rose. I can say so much about you, but please introduce yourself to the word, introduce yourself to the listeners.
Speaker 2:Yes, grace knows a lot about me. She can write a book. I can write a book Exposing every detail of my life, our whole book. We praise God, yes, but as she said, um, I go by Rose, but my name is Rosaline Sarah, and so I am actually family as well, so this is like a heartwarming time. It's the fam on the couch today. It's about time. I've been waiting. What is my invitation coming? But the day has come, come, we're here and I'm so proud of my family, my fam. She's doing great with this podcast. You know I'm a pusher, so I'm like listen, this thing has to have vision if I'll be part of it. So we have to be improving, and she's really improved. She's really doing it big, so I'm so proud of you. Okay, okay, okay, I'm happy to be here, okay let's talk about you.
Speaker 2:I just have to get it out, can I not honor somebody? Thank you, thank you, hey, you just want to honor over here, okay, so yeah, that being said, my name is Rosalyn Serra. I go by Rose.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I'm actually a CEO and co-founder of a marketing agency called the Flourish Creative Marketing Solutions, affectionately known as the flourish. So we help businesses grow online, we do a lot of social media, we do a lot of campaigns, we work with influencer, so we do it all when it comes to the marketing. And so we founded that last year and here we are today, still going. And then I'm also part of cornerstone nation all right, and so I'm part of Cornerstone Nation, part of the home team there, hour of Meditation, and I help out there every week and I wear many other hats. As she said, I work full time, I do my business, I help with this podcast. I'm usually behind that camera, I'm doing all this stuff. So, yes, we hear your notes, we will improve everything, don't worry. So so, yes, that is who I am in a little snippet, little nutshell.
Speaker 1:Amen. Thank you, saints. I am so excited that I forgot to ask you to give the scripture that we're standing on today. Okay, so the scripture that we're talking about today is Genesis 26, verse 12 and 13. This scripture really played a big role in Rose's life, in her ministry, just in everything. So I'm so excited. Let us read the scripture. So, the scripture for today is Genesis 26, verse 12 and 13. It says the man became rich and his wealth continued to grow until he became very wealthy. Okay, rich, rich, rich is sitting right here on the couch. Amen, this word did indeed.
Speaker 1:So, rose, I am so excited, as you know, that we've been on breaking on the journey of church hurt. We had different series. So, rose, I am so excited, as you know, that we've been unbreaking on the journey of church hurts. We had different, siri, you know you saw different guests, you saw different topic and when the Lord land into me, as I grace, you're going to be talking about church hurts, generation wealth. I said generation who. I said generation who, jesus, he's like generation wealth, and I was like, oh, okay, this is. I was. He's like generation wealth. And I was like, oh okay, this is I was like God, this is good. I was like, okay, god, who am I talking this with? And when God bought your name, I just smile. I just I smile big. And I was like, okay, god, I see you what you are doing, I see what you're doing. Now I want to ask you a question, have you?
Speaker 2:ever experienced church hurt? Oh yes, I have been deeply established in that topic. I'm a professional.
Speaker 1:I have my phd in church okay, like, just take us a little bit. You know of, like, of your church hurt experience and how will you be able to come out of that experience?
Speaker 2:You know, yes, yeah, so I'm a PK. Yeah, I'm a pastor's kid. So actually coming here, I was just already baptized, born into Christianity. My parents were saved before I was born. So when I came into this world is all we knew was church. You're at church Monday to Sunday. Not only that, I was serving, even as a kid. You're at church Monday to Sunday. Not only that, I was serving, even as a kid I was serving. So I was a leader in kids ministry. I was leading worship at one point with my mom, like setting up, going to the church early to set up with people. So, like all I knew was church and then we would do Bible studies at home. People would come to the house to be counseled by my dad. So it was just like church was everywhere.
Speaker 2:So that's all I knew. So for me, I never went through that struggle of like, oh, is Jesus real? Is Jesus real? Like, of course I had questions, but I never really questioned whether there was a God or anything, because that's all I knew growing up. That was the only theology that was taught to me. That was the only ideology that was taught to me. So, yeah, so that was my experience coming into the church and so with that, growing up in church, you see a lot of things, especially as a pastor's kid, I have a backstage pass to everything that goes on in the ministry, you know, and not to say that this is for every ministry, but the ministry that we were part of I got to see everything firsthand, from the back and at the front side.
Speaker 2:And so I was a kid, so not everything I understood, but I saw everything. Like I observed a lot of things, and a lot of things my parents obviously did not tell us, but there's some things that I was just able to see and observe, like, oh, is this how we act? Oh, is this really what the church is like? So I had a lot of opportunities to see a fence in real life. I had a lot of even people's comments, cause when you're a pastor's kid, people love to tell you what you're doing wrong or remind you that you're the pastor's kid. People love to tell you what you're doing wrong or remind you that you're the pastor's kid. So, like anything that I would do, it's like, oh, you're a pastor's son, you're a pastor's daughter. Like, why would you do this? Oh, you're a pastor's kid, why would you do this? It's like, oh, we saw would just report me to my parents without even knowing the full contents, the full story.
Speaker 2:So I always felt like I was under a microscope by everyone, not just my parents, but like everyone in the ministry, everyone that knew us in the community, because people knew my parents in the community as well. So it was like, everywhere that I went, it was like, oh, that's Roger's kid, that's Pastor Roger's kid, and so it's like, everywhere that I went I had that reputation of being a pastor's kid when people try to put that what my dad had on me, but it's like we don't have the same mantle. So I wasn't allowed to really explore myself and my own relationship with Christ. It was always according to my parents, or compared to my parents and the ministry.
Speaker 2:And it was always not to embarrass the ministry, not to embarrass my parents. So I had to really watch what I would say, what I would do, how I would act, everything. I had to watch Like you're like in a constant rehearsal because everything had to be perfect, yeah. So lots of experience through that to be hurt, to have to learn, to have to learn how to forgive and to have to learn what the church actually is. Cause my view of the church was very rigid, it was very religious, there wasn't actually any relationship because it was just a routine, it was my daily life. So the relationship part I was like oh, we just go to church, we praise Jesus. There wasn't really like a oh, me and Jesus. We know each other, we're friends, we have a deep relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1:That's very good. Okay, so during those time you have struggled to believe, you were During those time where you struggled to believe that you're God's worth. Like, would you struggle to see? Like, lord, where do I see my wealth here? You know, because when God gave me a vision of you, it was really beautiful. It was really a beautiful vision. I started crying in my dream and Were you doubting God. God, is this really building her wealth? And like, in those moment in time, did you ever struggle too? Yes, like, because you know how much you're so worth. Usually we don't see it until when you grow up and you start seeing your network. Like, you know, you make big money, you make big money.
Speaker 2:She's trying to smooth me to y'all you make.
Speaker 1:It's not gonna work today like, but have you like when you were during those moments, like as the pastor's kid you have to behave. Were you ever doubted god like lord? Am I really wealthy? Like?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean during the times when, when we were at church doing the ministry, I didn't think of wealth, like as a kid, I didn't really think of that, like we were not. Obviously we were not rich, we were just skating by, even sometimes. So we lived in affordable housing. You know, pastor's job does not pay and that's very unfortunate, that people in the church feel like their pastor should be poor, and that's a mentality that a lot of people had. I was like going back and forth with an Uber driver about this. So he's like I don't go to church because pastors always ask people to give, and I'm like is that bad though? And he's like no pastors should should work if they want money they should have a part-time job and.
Speaker 1:I was just like.
Speaker 2:This is how people actually, but there's wealthy pastors out there.
Speaker 1:There is wealthy pastors and people don't like that. Yeah, right.
Speaker 2:So when you see a wealthy pastor you think automatically they're stealing from the members.
Speaker 2:They're doing something sketchy and so people don't like their pastors to be okay, even stable. You know they need to be poor, that's what people like to see. And so, um, I definitely saw that in my family. I definitely saw that we struggled a lot financially with everything. I knew that I was different than the other kids because they would come every school year. You know when the parents come and they give you the list, the teachers give you the list of the things you need to buy, and all these kids would come first day of school new clothes, new materials, new things, cool stuff and I would come with my sibling stuff from last year or old stuff or stuff from dollar store.
Speaker 2:So I already could see and notice as a kid that, ok, we don't have as much money as other people. And there was even a time in junior high where I went over to my friend's house. She had this big five bedroom house and then she dropped me off and the next day kids were talking at school of like, oh, rose lives in a garage, her house is so small. And I was like, what? Like you know, I was actually proud of my house because I'm like, oh, I have this house was actually proud of my house because I'm like, oh, I have this house. Like to me, the house was the house. Like I didn't think about that.
Speaker 2:But then when other kids start bringing it up to you or when other people make you notice that, then it's like OK, maybe we don't have as much money as like other people, because that's just always what I knew. So I didn't know that that was less or more than anybody, I just knew that we lived in this house. My parents do ministry, that's it. But then I started noticing when I'm around other people, people would point out things. I didn't have the newest clothes, I didn't get an iPhone till I was like in high school and I worked for it. So it's like things like that made me realize okay, we don't have wealth. You know, I, I lack in this area. When it comes to money, we don't have much of that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, because guys, when you, when you see rose, money is just building everywhere, everywhere money, praise god. So now, um, you have a company that you have started. So, like, how did you come up with this mentality? Because your company, um, the way, the way you, you do business in your company, you don't just, yeah, you represent the world, but you ask you to represent Christ. So, like, when you start building your company, like I'm just going to throw yourself out there. You know, because, as you guys know, as I said, I used to call her Pastor Rose.
Speaker 2:Yes, you did.
Speaker 1:I used to call her Pastor Rose, until when the Lord correct me, she's like she's not a pastor, she's an apostle. She's a person that you know. She see, Don't worry, God is on your side. She's the person that you really. You see ash and you really turn it into beauty. You know, and that's what God was making understand about you, about your personality. So, but then most people they don't know, oh my goodness, Most people. They don't know you went to school. You went to school to be a pastor For me.
Speaker 2:You have a bachelor's degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have a bachelor's degree, so, but now you started a business. It's called the Flourish business, right? So? But in your business, how you run your business, did you? How did you come up with the mentality like, I want this business to be a business, but to be also a business that you guys represent Christ. You guys wear Jesus very, very, very well in your business. So how did you come up with that idea, you know, of the Flourish business?
Speaker 2:Yeah, how we came up with the Flourish is a whole long story that I don't have time to tell today. Yeah, just take a snipp. Came up with the flourish is a whole long story that I don't have time to tell today. Yeah, just just get that. Yeah, let me give you guys snippets. So yeah, I originally originally wanted to be a doctor.
Speaker 2:I just wanted to be successful I wanted to rise above my circumstances, my situation, and I wanted to build wealth for myself, but to be happy, just to live life, not really to be a rich, millionaire person like I, just literally wanted to be able to afford to live and enjoy my life. Yeah, and so I wanted to be a doctor because, like that seemed to be the most successful career to have at the time. I mean, we were all excited, you know. You know they're like the doctor, that's gonna be the doctor, the doctor, you know, because all these ones you missed around in school.
Speaker 2:So they said our hope is in her, the doctor. So, yeah, money's coming and I would get good grades and I was good at school and I was very disciplined. I was very, very disciplined throughout high school, so that was my goal. But every door to get into that, to that industry, that realm, was frustrated, like every door closed and closed and closed, to the point where I got an acceptance letter from McEwen and then 30 minutes later they were like oh, that was an accident, and so it was just really, really difficult to get through that door. So I was like, okay, this is not working.
Speaker 2:And at the time my youth pastor called him. I was just like I don't know what's going on. And he's like maybe that's not what the Lord has for you. And he started to talk to me about purpose. And this is the first time that I was hearing about purpose because, again, I grew up in church so I believed everything was about ministry, everything was about serving the Lord, and so no one really talked to me about discovering what God wants me to do. It was always just like, oh, what you do is you just serve God in church.
Speaker 2:And so this was the first time a pastor had spoken to me about no, what is your purpose? What does God put you on this earth to do? And I genuinely didn't know. I just chose doctor. You know, I just chose that and that's where I was running, but that's not what God had told me to do or created me to do. So then I had to do the work of like praying and asking God what is my purpose and, through my pastor's leadership and through like different community and the word of God, the Lord spoke to me and said okay, you're going to go to this college, which was the Bible college that I went to, and I didn't understand. I was fighting it because I was like no, I'm like, I'm trying to run from this. You're putting me right back into it.
Speaker 2:It's not an easy college, trust me, it's not. I was there. It's not easy, you know, and I was like I was struggling to find the purpose and going, but what the Lord had told me was that this would build the foundation that I needed to build on later. And so that's what I because I really started to understand the word properly there and really started to explore my own faith outside of my family, outside of my parents, outside of even the ministry I grew up in. I started to explore it myself. I had many different mentors, many different experiences, supernatural experiences and just like experiences with me and God by myself, and so that did build the foundation of faith that I'm still standing on today, and I was very, very, I'm very, very grateful for that time that I had, and so when I came out of there, I thought I was going to be a revivalist. So I was like, yes, time to go and save the world for Jesus. I was so far.
Speaker 1:You even traveled too, like yes, from ministry.
Speaker 2:I did. I would travel, people would invite me to speak.
Speaker 1:They would see like this girl's on fire, like let's invite her.
Speaker 2:I would go to churches and speak to these people, not really knowing what I'm doing, but I would just grab the Bible and just start to speak to people. I would pray for people, for healing, like all of that. I would see all of this happen and so I thought that was going to be my path. I was like, okay, this is my purpose, yes, to revive people, to talk to them about the, the bible, the word of god. She revival me too, like, trust me, the moments I went to my journey of my church. I'll call rose yeah, everybody in the family rose. So, yes, I was very, very deep into that. And then the lord, when I was like, okay, lord, I'm ready to be launched into my ministry, I'm ready to start, then the lord said, actually, you're going to go into business.
Speaker 2:And at this time I was literally working at a church as their youth pastor and I was like what? So I'm supposed to leave this church, leave all these kids and go into business? To me that was like night and day. I didn't know anything about business. To me, business was like a secular world. My mindset still hadn't changed. I thought, if you were in business, you're just greedy, or you want to abuse people or, you know, take advantage of people. I didn't think business was a world for Christians to succeed at least. So my mindset really needed a lot of work. And so when the Lord said that, I really did not understand. It was like. It was like someone threw the uh, pulled the rung from under me and I felt kind of robbed because I'm like, why would you allow me to go to this school for four years, get my whole degree in counseling, psychology and theology, and then have me travel speaking places, have people call me pastor, this, pastor, that, and then now to be like, no, you're actually going to go in business. So I was really frustrated with it and so I just I didn't do anything with it, I just sat on it, cause I'm like I'm not going to go back to business school, like I already did my degree. I'm done with school, I want to just go, I wanted to just take action, um, cause I'm an apostle, I want to put my hands to work on something, I want a project. And so when the Lord said that, I just sat with it and it was actually, um, the pastor at my church that I was at at the time in Calgary and he gave me a word during the service just a random normal service sitting where I always sit and then he's like actually, rose, the Lord, the Lord has a word for you. And this was after I heard a message on Joseph. I heard a message on Joseph and Joseph is, if you know me, me and Joseph were like this. We're tight.
Speaker 2:I love the story of Joseph because I relate to it so much, and so I was listening to a sermon about Joseph and then hearing how he came up out of obscurity and was literally given the wealth, the power to control the wealth of Egypt, and redeemed his whole family through that experience. And so the Lord spoke to me and said what if I make you wealthy within five years? And I said get out of here. I'm like me, me, me who I sneeze and I get into debt. I'm like you want to make me wealthy. I was like this doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2:But I go to church that week and then my pastor calls me out and he says the Lord wants to make you wealthy, he wants to build wealth in your life, he wants to have you invest into the kingdom, he wants to help you grow things. And he's like you're asking the Lord how is this possible, how can this happen? And the Lord's saying what if I do it within five years? This was 2020. And so I was shocked because I really I I knew it was the Lord, but I just didn't accept it because I was like me and wealth, we don't agree. I have never seen wealth. I don't know how to build wealth. I'm so terrible. My money, my, my relationship with money was so terrible.
Speaker 2:So, I was like, why would the Lord want to build wealth through me? Like I don't understand, I want other things. Like I don't need wealth, lord, I just need enough money to live, to do what I want to do, to do ministry, and I'm good. I don't need anything else, cause that's what I saw my parents do. So I was okay with that lifestyle. It wasn't like I was like thirsty to be a millionaire, thirsty to have all these, these things. I didn't really care about having the big house or the car. I just wanted to like do what I could for the Lord and like live out my dreams and my purpose. And so when I got that word, that's when I understood, ok, this is how he's going to build wealth. So how the flourish comes in was through that business, the word about business. So I knew I wasn't supposed to go to business school, so I knew the opportunity would come.
Speaker 2:And 2020 was right around the time where I met my co-founder yeah, and we became very close friends. So throughout the years we have gotten closer and closer and she was doing her own businesses. I actually started a business called Aesthetic Girlie. It was like my little online store. I was telling all my friends to shop, to buy all this stuff. And so I was doing that, doing that, doing that, and I remember actually calling you and being like it's not working, people are not buying my stuff. Like this is so much work and I spent so much money trying to get it off the ground. So I'm like okay, let me just start a clothing brand. So I was in that process. I actually flew to Vancouver to meet with a whole company that was going to be doing my R&D, doing my clothes. We were going to sign a deal with a company in Portugal for the actual like material.
Speaker 2:Like I was in the move, I was moving and then the Lord one day was like um, what are you doing? And I was like, lord, I'm doing business. You said business, I'm in the business Cause with me, I'm an apostle, I run with things. So you tell me something, I'm gone, I'm out the door, I don't like to wait, I like to take action. So the Lord was like no, no, no, this isn't what I meant. So he's like you need to call her, you need to text her. So I texted her. I'm like um, do you want to start a business together? And then I didn't think she would say yes, cause mixing friendship with business is very I wouldn't do it unless you know it's the Lord. It's like a marriage you marry that person and you need to know them very well and you need to be sure that you guys can go the distance together. So I messaged her that message.
Speaker 2:She was like in Africa. She was like in Rwanda, or she was in Kenya, actually Tanzania, just living her best life. She also needed a break. Her business wasn't working, and so she actually answered my text. This was like December and she was like yeah, actually. So I was like okay, so that's honestly how it started. We just like met in January. We're like, let's dream about what this could look like. We didn't even want to start a marketing agency at first, but that word came later. And then, when we decided on the flourish, she then told me actually two years ago, the Lord gave me a word that me and you are going to do a business together. It's going to be an agency. So I'm like why didn't you tell me? Just two years we've been sitting on this. I was like, oh, I just wanted to see. I wanted to let the Lord do it.
Speaker 2:I don't want to force you or put things in your mind. If it was God, it would happen. But, she's very patient, bless her. I would have been like we're meant to start a business. That's the apostle in you, me. I would have been like why are we wasting time?
Speaker 2:The business is yesterday, but she's a prophet, so she's more like okay, I hear the Lord, let me see what he's gonna do, let me watch, let me observe, let me see. Um, so, yeah, that's where we got to. Today is the word of the lord and many different circumstances that brought me to this point of like, settling now, of like this is what god has for me. This is part of my purpose no.
Speaker 1:So how did you guys both decide with of the name flourish, you know like, did that they all come together, or or did it that did the name just fall from heaven?
Speaker 2:I wish names would fall from heaven. That would be so much easier, but just through prayer. So we knew we were supposed to start a business together. She said yes. I said yes. So we were like we came together we would meet and just say, okay, these are ideas that we have, so we'd go through these ideas, these ideas.
Speaker 2:So then, when we landed on marketing agency because I was working in marketing at this time and so I was like, do I really want to do this for the forever? Like, do I want this as my full, full-time job? And so I was wrestling with even that because I wanted to do other things I was like, oh, I would love to explore this and this and that, but the Lord really was on that marketing agency. So we're like, okay. So I was thinking about names and then, through prayer, the flourish came to me. And the reason why that name came to me is because we were very, very, we were both very passionate about seeing businesses grow. We wanted to see businesses get to their next level. We wanted to see them expand, cause, like we're from Edmonton where there's a lot of small businesses, yeah, and, like we used to call it, deadminton, but it's rising, it's rising, it's rising, my God's grace.
Speaker 2:We've been here a long time, so we've seen the deadest, the deadest of the deadest. It's rising. Okay, when you're in Edmonton in the 90s If, you're in Edmonton, don't give up.
Speaker 1:There's a revival coming.
Speaker 2:Especially for businesses, exactly.
Speaker 2:Exactly, we've seen that we're like Edmonton's enemy and other nations enemy, like to stay small or like they think small, they think of themselves as small, and we would meet with these business owners and they couldn't even imagine hitting those big numbers and we're like that's a problem, like you should want to grow, you should want to be able to expand and do more. So we saw, we saw that pattern and there was a passion there. So the floor started to come out of that. We were thinking of names like grow, marketing, all these things, but the flourish just kept coming to me. And so when I brought it to Tamara, who is my business partner, she was like no, I don't like it. Like what is that the flourish? Like a flourish that's too girly. And I'm like people say flourish, like it's actually a very loaded word, prophetically even. And so I was like no, I like it, I'm like just think about it some more. So she prayed about it some more and the lord then confirmed to her yes, this is the name.
Speaker 1:Apostles man, when they come up with something, you must run with the vision and go.
Speaker 2:It's really hard to change our mind yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:so were there moments in your journey when you guys were building Flourish together, like, were there moments in your journey that you guys doubt God or like God, you really did not give us this business, you know, because God just gives you a small picture, sometimes, like he doesn't really give you the full puzzle of how it's going to be. He just gives you a small, he just calls you small. And then so in that moment in Flourish you guys were building the business, is there a moment that you guys doubt God? You're like no, god did not call us into this and we called ourselves into this every day every day.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh my god, because once you announce something it's hard to take that back. So once we were like, okay, the flourish, I was trying to keep it, like, you know, very hush hush. I wasn't trying to like, I didn't even announce it the first, the first six months that we did it, I didn't really like put it out there, I was still working, I was still working my, you know, my, my corporate girly, big girl job, high rise you know, I was loving it.
Speaker 2:And I was like I'm never leaving, and so I was still working that job. So Flourish to me was still very much a side hustle. I was like, okay, we're going to build this little thing here while I'm like doing my work here, and then someday I'll get back to this. And so there was one day the Lord was like, yeah, that job you're going to quit. And I thought I was never going to leave. And then the next week, you know we're getting to that. But yeah, I ended up leaving that job and so Flourish became full-time.
Speaker 2:And when flourish became full-time, that's when the, the faith was really tested in that word, because I wasn't seeing the results that I, that I was putting in. I wasn't seeing results from what I was putting in, because when you go into something full-time, you're thinking, okay, now that I give this thing my attention, things are gonna happen. That didn't happen for the first. Like for a good six months. There was like barely any activity in the beginning, when we had the idea, it was like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We could see it everywhere. The words were coming. The Lord was reassuring. When we got into it, it seemed like the dry desert season where it was like okay, we had to really have faith, to be like did the Lord really say? Did the Lord really say?
Speaker 2:And I remember going to apostle which is my spiritual authority, apostle Emmanuel, and like he told me no, the Lord wants you to do this business. Like, focus on it, keep going, keep going, he would encourage. Every time I had a meeting with him, well, it's not working, sir, he would say, no, keep going, keep going. And he actually told us do this, do this, do this. So he gave us instructions register it, choose a CEO, choose your board, blah, blah, blah. We didn't have that. We were just, we were just vibing. It was vibes and us like, just doing our thing. So he's like no, you need to structure it properly because when, the, when, the, when the overflow comes, you want to be able to withstand it, to hold it, to hold it and that's my apostle you have.
Speaker 1:Yes, he tells you, go ahead, another person exactly another person.
Speaker 2:He said build systems, build systems when the overflow comes.
Speaker 2:You don't want to, you don't. He always says you don't want your net to have holes. So it's like you need to be able to sustain what's coming. So we did that. We chose CEO. So I was chosen as the CEO, she was chosen as the COO, and then we built a board. We asked all of our board members do you want to be a board member? We registered it, we legalities, and then boom, june comes. We have this big major client come to us being like hey, I want to work with you guys. Why I? I didn't know. It was the lord, amen, because we were not. They could choose from anybody they wanted, with what they wanted to do and what they were developing. But for some reason, he saw something in us and favored us, amen. So he came and apostles like you see, this is why. This is why you gotta favor.
Speaker 1:it's around you like a shoe, exactly so that was like you see. This is why this is why you got to prepare Favor it's around you like a shoe, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that was like one of the biggest moments that I was like, okay, this is actually for real, like the Lord is not joking with this. I got to take this more seriously and so then that client said, okay, I'm going to develop this, you guys work on what you have and we'll circle back. So we were preparing, preparing, preparing, and then it seemed like we entered into another dry season. Yeah, and that's what it is when you're an entrepreneur it's a lot of ups and downs. So if you're a person that you need to see results right away or you're a person that scares easily, it's not the life for you, because there's going to be high highs and very, very low lows.
Speaker 2:Like I was at the point where I ran out of money completely, completely just drain my savings trying to invest in this business, and it's like at that point I had the choice do I quit or do I keep going? And it was the word of God over the flourish that allowed me to keep investing and keep going. If I didn't have that word to stand on, there would be no flourish today. I would be out, cause you know, I have the skills and experience to work for anybody, but like God, asked me to work on this business, so his word in those moments where I was in the desert, dry, no water, it was his word that really gave me courage to keep going.
Speaker 1:Amen, I like that, I really like that you stand on the word. Okay, so now we're talking about Genesis 26 because God, god asked us to focus, um, he asked me to focus on that scripture. So Genesis 26, verse 12 and 13. How did Genesis 26, verse 12 and 13 literally became flesh into your life? Because when the Lord gave me this topic and gave me the scripture you know, because God usually gave me everything so, like, how did that Genesis 26 literally became flesh? And then you're, like you saw it and Rosalyn start become wealthy and wealthy, and wealthy, and wealthy, and wealthy.
Speaker 1:Because I um, I'll share with you the image a little bit that God gave it to me, like cause I was, I haven't even heard this yet, I know, I know, I mean most guests. They don't know why they're here. We're finding out, live guys, it's not, it's not me, I swear Guys. We're finding out live Guys, it's not me, I swear. Like most people, like, get off of me, how come I haven't come to the Word of God? The Holy Spirit literally choose everybody, like you know, everybody have their moment, their time. So when God gave me the topic and he gave me the scripture, and he's like, yeah, this is the person that you're going to talk to, and then I was like, okay, holy Spirit, I will reach out.
Speaker 1:You know I do what God asked me to do, so now explain to us, take us to us. How did that? Genesis 26 literally became flesh, and then you saw enroling, begin to prosper and prosper in wealth, and begin to build wealth. Yeah, that's a very deep story. Yeah, it's very deep. Like make it like you know, just make it like short, because that's what you do because of time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I can talk for days, I know, I know, okay. So yeah, many, many years leading up to this, there was a lot of struggles financially, which I kind of like touched on a little bit here and there, but like it was, it was deep, there was a lot of, lot of issues and it always surrounded money, especially with me, there was always financial like tragedies, whatever it with me, there was always financial like tragedies, whatever it would be like I would get a huge lump sum of money or money would start coming in at like a big rate and then something would happen. You know, it would either be a life crisis, a situation like I'd get reached out and be like you actually owe this much money and it would be in the thousands of dollars and I'm like, how did this happen? Like that was just my relationship with money, it would always come.
Speaker 2:Did this happen? Like that was just my relationship with money? It would always come, but then it would always be taken like stolen from me. That's what it felt like. And so, leading up to this and and building the flourish, this happened again, where it's like okay, money's not there and it seems like I don't have the resources that I need to move forward, even to just basic living. It was very, very, very difficult and I hit if there's anything lower than rock bottom. That's where I hit and that's why I love Joseph's story, because it says that he was in a pit at one point and that's what it felt like.
Speaker 1:He did not know when he was going to come out to go to Pharaoh. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:Nothing owned nothing. So I was in that place, and so my relationship with money was always bad. But the Lord told me in the beginning I'm going to build wealth, You're going to build wealth, I'm going to build wealth through you. And so I was like Lord, why are you telling me this word? But everything in my life looks the exact opposite, and that's what the Lord can do sometimes.
Speaker 2:And he reminded me of the story of Abraham, of how Abraham's original name was actually Abram, and he changed it to Abraham, the father of many nations, years before he had Isaac. So Abraham had to go around introducing himself as father of many nations and then explain to people why he had no kids. So you can imagine the embarrassment, the shame that can come with that of like, I'm calling myself father of many nations, I don't even have my own son, not one, not even a daughter. No children. And so the Lord was taking me through that process. It's like you're wealthy, you're wealthy.
Speaker 2:He had me declare, call myself wealthy, and there was no wealth in sight. It actually was negative. There was more debt than there was even money there. So I was in a deficit and I was like this doesn't make sense. And so we were going through in church the cornerstones of prosperity, which is a book by Apostle Emmanuel Adeusi, my favorite. When I tell you I've read so much books, the intelligent investor, all of these zero to one, this is my favorite top book on building wealth and prosperity.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Changed my life. So I was in this place where I was like, hey, like this is a struggle, I don't know if I can make it another day, Cause when you have debt collectors calling you every day is calling you every day, that's a different ballgame. I was in deep when it came to finances, Like I was in a lot of trouble and if the Lord didn't come through for me, it was I don't know. I don't know about you, girl. So I was going through this season and I read that book and Apostle had told me. He asked me a question Do you receive favor? Do you like receiving favor?
Speaker 1:favor and I'm like I would love to no.
Speaker 2:No, it's not comedy.
Speaker 1:We work hard, to we work for everything. Grace, grace doesn't struggle.
Speaker 2:You know, I've worked my whole life. I've worked since 13. I remember my first job was at mcdonald's. I bought my own phone, I paid for my own graduation dress everything I have paid.
Speaker 2:She's a go-getter, this girl yes, yeah so I was like I would like to, but it just it doesn't seem like favor comes to me and he's like no, no, no, Favor is undeserved, you don't work for it. And he quoted me a verse he's like the race is not to the swift nor to the strong, but time and chance happens to them all. He's like you're at a place and you we need to deal with this. Today. I need favor in my life. I need this. Issues with money, and it was a bondage what it was. It was a bondage of poverty over my life because of like things generationally and my own habits too. But when you can't break something and you've tried everything to break it, then that becomes a bondage. So some people blame you of like no, you just need to be responsible, but actually it's the devil using that thing against you.
Speaker 2:And what you're most afflicted in, you're most anointed in. So the area that you're afflicted in constantly, you know that you have anointing to break that yoke and so I knew there was anointing to break that yoke so I needed to access that. And so when I read the book and it was talking about favor, there's just something that lifted off of me and the Lord had me pray like break that independent spirit that you have, that spirit. That's like I need to go get everything for myself.
Speaker 1:I need to make it happen for myself.
Speaker 2:I need to take care of myself, because that's how it was. You know, my parents couldn't pay for everything, so I had to do that myself. So I took that on as an identity of like I take care of myself, I do for myself, when the Lord didn't have space to do for me. So he's like break that off. So we broke that off with that book me, the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the cornerstones of prosperity. We broke off that spirit of independence. And then he said okay, now go.
Speaker 2:And I felt so light. I felt like a heaviness that I was carrying my whole life was lifted off of me, like I didn't have the responsibility of taking care of myself anymore. It was now in God's hands, you know, especially with money and provision. And so I went to church that day and then I felt like I just felt like something was different about me. I was like Lord, I feel like I feel like I've changed, I feel like this is 2.0. And he's like yes, you're receiving a new name amen and I'm like oh, my god, prosperity is my name.
Speaker 2:And he's like, no, no, no, it's not a prophetic thing, you know, because people say, oh, power is my name, my name, my name, victory is my name. Yeah, the lord's like that's not what I'm talking about, like your actual name has changed, amen. And I've never had a middle name. Yeah, my parents always gave me rosaline capongo. Never had a middle name. My siblings have a middle name. So he was saying your middle name now is sarah, like sarah abraham's wife. Yeah, because of their story, they were very, very wealthy. You will not need to struggle no, I'll never need to struggle.
Speaker 2:Sarah was a princess, that's what it means princess noble woman, she's of high ranking, she's god's baby girl, amen. So that's the name that's the name and my spiritual authority, apostle, confirmed that, so I've now taken on that identity of. I am sarah, I'm a princess, I'm a noble woman. I'm in god's hands. Amen, and he will always provide. Amen, I'm prosperous.
Speaker 2:I like that, yeah, so coming to that word, actually genesis 26, that's what I declared throughout that whole season of lack that I was experiencing Every day, the Lord had me wake up. I would wake up, see all the missed calls from the debt collectors, and then I would take my Bible and I would declare that word. And I would put my name in it. So I would say Rosaline became wealthy and continued becoming wealthy I'm forgetting it now Until she became very prosperous, yeah.
Speaker 1:So Rosaline prospered and continued prospering until she became very prosperous, very, very, very, very prosperous.
Speaker 2:Big, big, big big. Every single day, throughout that entire season, I was declaring that scripture Amen, oh.
Speaker 1:God, I love you. Jesus is now, but it was hard. It was hard, guys, we will get there. We will get there. We will get there, like, as long as Jesus is the center of your life, whatever he has called you, either your business, you will get there. You just need to trust and believe in the word and actually apply the word that he has given you, apply that scripture. I mean, god is able to build your destiny. He is able to build anything that he has called you, you know. So thank you so much, rose, um, for you know, for coming in.
Speaker 1:Now I want you to put you, um, I want you to put it in a different hat, cause I, as I said, you wear so many hats into my life. You know, you wear the hats of a pastor, you wear the hat of the apostle, but you're more natural into the apostle, um, an apostle, not just in ministry, but also, too, in the business world. So I want you to like give a word of encouragement for somebody who's building their business, and then they're like damn, is this business gonna leave? I want you to awaken the business of that person, and you know just how the lord has awakened the vision of Flourish If you can just help somebody out there who's really going through and, like they, just want to give up on that business that God has put them into their hands.
Speaker 1:Because, as I say, you actually turn things. You take things that they're asked. You turn them into beauty. Like most people, they don't know what you actually do behind the scene of this podcast. There's days that I would literally say God, I can't do it. I can't do it anymore. But, like now, speak to somebody who's going through that situation, who's building their business. You know, speak, give them a word that they can stand on as a business person.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I think that word Genesis 26, 13 is a very, very powerful word for anybody believing for resources and the finances to be able to watch their business grow. But I also think the word before that is talking about Isaac reaping and, in the same year, sowing a hundredfold what he reaped. And so I think it's important to know that everything that you have sowed into that business the blood, sweat and tears, because you wear every hat as an entrepreneur, as a business owner you wear every hat and the business is your responsibility, and that's something that the Lord told me with the flourish it is now as the CEO, this is now your responsibility. I've put it in your hands to grow this and take it further, and so, but knowing that it's a word from the Lord and knowing that his word can never, ever fail, that God gave you that business, so he's watching to see his word come to pass. So not only do you have heaven backing you, but you have the permission and authority of heaven to make that business grow.
Speaker 2:So that business must grow according to the word of God, and that whatever you reap, you will, you will sow whatever you reap into that business, whether it's five years from now, two years from now, a six months from now, you will reap from what you sow into God's kingdom. With what you're doing in your business and declaring that word, you will prosper, you will continue to prosper and you will always prosper, and so that's what you need to declare over yourself, over your business. Hold on, continue going, have strength, have perseverance, because the Lord's going to do something amazing in the kingdom of God through you, and that's why he entrusted that business in your care. Amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, Since you have heard you have heard.
Speaker 1:You have heard, now, since we're coming, we're coming to the end. You know, like, as I said, I can sit down here all day and then just talk with the amazing Rose, you know, the CEO of Flourish. I can sit here all day, but we are coming to the end. We are coming to a moment. You know where, like, god is building us. You know, throwing out the baggage of our church hurt our church trauma. Out the baggage of our church hurts our church trauma.
Speaker 1:Whatever church that you have, you have heard, from the beginning we had healing. You know, from we started with healing and in slowly, the lord is progressing. But now the lord is speaking prosperity over your life. You know, you have the power to change it, but over scripture, as you, as you guys, you guys have heard um, um, the apostle rose, um, she talked about spiritual authority. She talked about submitting to authority. She talked about going to our church. I mean, she grew up in the church, you know. But also there is a beauty. There's a beauty in community. You know that's what the Lord awakened me when I went through my church hurt. God was reminding me there's beauty in community and there's beauty in church.
Speaker 1:And when we're talking about church, as Pastor Edgar has said, when we talk about church, we just don't talk about the community. We're talking about Jesus, literally where the feet you know, the mouth that you have, the feet that you have, that is the body of Christ that you're representing. You know, and it is so important for you to be. I talk so much about authority. You be under, submit authority, submit under an authority. You're not meant to do life alone. You're not meant to do life alone. Even Jesus came on the earth. Jesus himself came on the earth and he submit under authority, submit under the authority of his father. So if you don't have a home church, what are you waiting for? Please go find a church, go find yourself a church, go find yourself an authority, go find yourself who you submit under, who who's going to be speaking life onto you and hold on to the word and let that word became flushed into your life. So if you're ready to do that, you're like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm back in my bed, grace, I'm going, I'm listening, you know.
Speaker 1:Please say this simple prayer with me and just come to this. Um, it's first. It starts with confess with our mouth, and then, after that, we believe, you know. And then he come in. Jesus is a gentleman. He cannot unwrap the bandage that you don't want him to unwrap. Okay, that's what. That's what I'm actually learning. Like, if you want to stay with your bandage of hurt, he, jesus, will leave it there. But God, he's able, he's able. So please say this prayer with me.
Speaker 1:Once you say this prayer with me, don't just say the prayer, don't say okay, grace, I say the prayer and then you sit on the couch that used to be me. You said the prayer, you believe in your heart, and then you go find yourself a church. You go find yourself a church. Can you say this prayer with me and say Lord, jesus Christ, I believe you are the son of God and I believe you died for me on the cross of Calvary. I know I am a sinner today and I came to you to forgive me of all my sin and to make me a brand new creation. I accept you as my Lord, personal and savior. Thank you, lord.
Speaker 1:So if you simply have seen that prayer, please, please, please, go find yourself a home church. Go find yourself an authority, stay under an authority, submit under authority, serve the Lord until Jesus comes. Be blessed, come back in the month of August, because August is about to be fired, because you guys don't know the next guest who's gonna sit in this couch in August. I mind blowing when God told me and I was like when I reach out to the guest, she was ready in August. We're declaring about our freedom. So if July you have declare your prosperity, come declare your freedom back in august. See you last day, last monday of the month of august. God bless you, saint, and we're out you.