Midlife Marauders

New Year, New/Old Habits & Katt Williams Dissing His Midlife Peers

• Will & Max • Season 1 • Episode 3

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Hip hop hooray - we made it to 2024! Midlifers unite and get your health screenings! Will crushes Dry January, Max owns up to her love of showtunes and our thoughts on Katt Williams airing his dirty laundry. 

Thanks for listening--keep on marauding!

Hi Max, how are you? I'm good, hey. How are you? Happy New Year. I'm good, I'm good. Happy, yeah, we haven't talked since, uh, the New Year. Yeah. So, uh, I'm, yeah, I'm doing fine, doing well.  Brand new year. Uh, same old me, just in 2024. I know. Are you feeling like invigorated? How are you feeling this new year? I know it's, you know.

I'm feeling pretty good. Mid January. I'm feeling pretty good. Okay. Yeah, it's, it's, it's uh, you know, it's gotten off to a good start.  Um, I,  I'm feeling particularly healthy. I feel like I'm in the right frame of mind.  I, I feel good. How about yourself? Yeah, I feel pretty good. I mean, I had this, you know, when you, at the beginning of the year, you go and work out hard.

So I went to this class yesterday, so I'm super sore today. You know, sometimes you overdo it, you know, like the beginning of the year.  It's nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You gotta ease into it. It's like, it's kind of like, uh, it's, you know, interval, inter interval training, kind of like CrossFit. Mm-hmm. But not CrossFit, you know, it's just at my gym. 

So it's good, you know, cause they always say that you should start doing weightlifting and  resistance training or whatever when you get older so your bones are stronger.  Yeah, so I'm a little bit sore today, but in a good way. Well sore is good. Yeah, in a good way. Sore is good. Sore means you're tearing down your muscle and you can build it back up nice and strong.

Exactly. So sore is good. Sore means you worked out, you did something. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, so I think it's good that we're both kind of kicking things off. In a positive way. Do you do, uh, still do New Year's resolutions or think about any goals for the year?  Uh, not, not really. Uh, I, I don't do resolutions because I wind up just not caring about it after probably like a week or so.

You know, I've done,  uh, I'll set small goals where I'll do like, okay, you know, well, it's time to Uh, you know, I've been hitting the gym since, uh, since the, uh, 1st of January, been pretty consistent with that. Like going more regularly than you did last year?  Well, going is more regular than I did last year.

That's good. So yeah, so I'm, I'm up to probably four or five times a week. Oh my gosh. Uh, just, just worked out before we got on the podcast today. Uh, change do you think? Is it just this beginning of the year I need to get my ass in shape or something? You know what? What? Uh, I'll be honest with you. It's pure, pure vanity. 

Pure adulterated vanity. Which is not a bad thing necessarily. No, no. I, I got some trips, uh, coming up here and I don't, I don't want to be the fat guy on the, on the trip. So,  you know, it's, I got a, a big wedding in, in Cancun. Oh, so it's like a beach trip. May. Bearing some skin. Yes, a beach trip. So I gotta, yeah, I gotta get, I gotta get right for that.

 Gotta get the beach bod ready. Yeah, yeah. And I. I won't be the oldest guy there, but I'll be one of the oldest.  And you know, I, but these guys are in there, most of the people are in their 40s, so they're not like young whippersnappers or anything like that, but, um,  yeah, I, I, I got to get in shape for that.

 And, but I talked to some friends, uh, a couple of days about a Vegas trip, so I got to get right for that. When are you going to Vegas? I'll be in Vegas in March. Uh,  I want to say 

 Maybe June. Okay. I gotta think about that. You know, there's a bunch of drunk friends talking about going to Vegas And I was the only sober one there So I should remember  but I gotta I gotta circle back on that figure out when that is But so do you use a trainer? Do you have a personal trainer? You just work out yourself. 

 I just work out myself I'll follow a program  So I'm not just in there just winging it but I I follow a program it's three days on and One day off and three days on one day off. It's a 90 day  program  and  Yeah, it's I just got to keep be consistent with it. That's it There's no reason why I should not go to the gym when I need to go to the gym Yeah, I think there's no reason an hour out of your day, but it's easy.

 Yeah things to come up.  Absolutely  But just yeah, just getting in better shape eating better Damp January  I am doing Dry January. I am. Um, that was Is this the first time or have you done it before?  I've done it before. I've done it before. Uh, it's, it's never easy, but it's getting easier now because I am not such a pushover.

 Like I normally would have been where I would have been, uh, coerced by others to, uh, have a shot, have a drink,  you know, break it. So yeah, I've been, I've been, I've been standing firm on that. Uh, you know, I got.  Nine more days. That's good. I'm going to look forward to the end of it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

 And, uh, and I'm not the person that will do dry January and then hide. Yeah. You know, I can't be near my friends. All right. I got to seclude myself from others. No, I still do my normal routine. You know, it's football season, the playoffs. You know, I gotta go out with your boys, watch the games, they're throwing back drinks, they're throwing back shots, you know, once in a while they'll, you know, I tell them, Hey, I'm doing dry January.

 Don't, don't even look. What do they think of that? Are they, they're supportive or are they surprised?  It's been very good. I mean, I guess the older you get with it, I guess people are more like, yeah, I need to do that too. Yeah. You know, cause you know, we're, we're not in our twenties, bounce back. They see the value of it, but they don't do it, but they see the value of it.

 I would like to think I am a shining example for them and maybe they'll come around, but. Um, yeah, they've been like super supportive that they don't try, they, they don't like, Hey man, just take one shot. It's not going to kill you. I think that's a big difference, right? Now that we're older, people don't do the peer pressure thing as much,  a hundred percent.

 So it's been good. And like I said, I haven't been ducking anybody. I haven't been hiding. I've been, I've been going out, you know, went to a winery  for God's sake.  Went to a winery and just had some water, maybe a couple of, uh, colas or something like that.  But yeah, I've been, I've been standing tall on this.

 I'm, I'm really proud of myself for, for doing it. And, uh, like I said, I only got nine days, so the,  I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, so it's been good.  Have you ever done Dry January? Um, I mean, I don't drink as much anymore in general, so I've done it maybe once, you know, but I'm not a big drinker anymore.

 Just, I mean, that's another thing. As I got older, I've become more of a lightweight, so I don't drink that much, but I mean, I think I probably should think of something else to be dry on, like, like no junk food or candy, you know, I once did a sugar detox and that was really good. But it's making me think now that you're so disciplined.

 I need to kind of step up my game.  Hey, I'm here to inspire. See, you're inspiring. Let's go.  Shining example. Let's, let's, let's get it. Yeah, everybody listen, listen. Yeah, if you're doing dry jammer, stand, stand tall, stand firm. You know, put your feet on the ground and say, no, I will not have this shot of tequila.

 No, I will not do this gummy bear shot. No, I will not have this beer. So what do you do at the end though? Do you celebrate with a drink?  Well, I mean, that's, that's kind of the lonely part, you know, when they're doing their, their toast and their cheers, you know, you can't be involved with that. I think it's kind of dumb by like.

 They're doing vodka shots and I push my unsweetened iced tea up to it. Yeah, that's kind of lame. So I don't, I don't, I don't really do that. But I'm just saying at the end of January, do you, do you celebrate by having drinks? Oh, I mean, Thursday, February 1st, I'm in it to win it. You know, it's a Thursday.

 I'm looking for a happy hour. If anybody wants to do a happy hour with me on Thursday, let me know. I'm getting, I'm getting back at it. I do miss. Drinking. I miss having cocktail or beer. I don't miss having shots.  I don't miss that. And I'll do shots, but shots are what kills you. That's, that's what makes you,  you know, hung over and just obliterated the next day.

 Yeah. I can't remember the last time I had a shot.  But anyhow. So what else? Is there any other, any other revolute, resolutions or goals that you think,  you know, just to stay in a good, good mental mind frame, you know, not, not be, uh, you know, trying not to be seasonally depressed, you know, we hadn't had the greatest weather.

 Yeah.  I'm not a, I'm not a fan of snow. So, you know,  so, you know, just trying to avoid seasonal. Yeah, it's been very cold. It's been very, very cold. So trying to avoid seasonal depression and just, just staying in a good mind frame about things and just being positive. And that's basically it, you know, I, I, I don't really believe you should have all of these. 

 Big changes and just, you know, totally flip your life over because I don't think you can sustain that right small thing Yeah, small incremental things. Yeah I mean, I've reached out to people that I haven't been in touch with in a long time, you know Cuz now the years years have been flying by right?

 That's good. You realize. Oh, I haven't seen this person in like 20 years  That's good. That's good to do more of that  that actually did remind me that  a bunch of my college buddies We,  we have determined that, Hey, we're going to make this happen this year that we're going to all get together and do something.

 I'm a boy. So that's another trip. We don't, I don't have a time or date or location for that, but.  We're going to do something this year. We've, we've been, you know, there, I don't have kids, but their kids are older. They're not babies anymore. So they got a little more, yeah. Hundred. Yeah. So we're going to, yeah, that's another thing that, you know, again, I don't want to be the, the,  the guy with the worst body or the worst fit, you know, in this situation.

 So. You know, we just got to keep this train rolling. Just say, if you see me out there, or  I'm a friend of yours, Hey, check on me. How, how's, how's your, how's your fitness program going? You know, that, that'll keep me going. You know, I gotta, you know, you gotta be motivated sometimes, sometimes self motivation isn't enough.

 Sometimes you need a little peer pressure, right? And, uh, so sometimes it's hard to make the effort, you know?  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go to the gym. I don't want to do any of this. I just want to sit on my fat ass and watch TV and eat what I want to eat, but I'm not getting any younger. You know, I think I look pretty good for my age.

 I don't have any  health problems that  You know, a midlife black man  wouldn't normally have, you know, uh, so I, I feel pretty good about that. So I got, I gotta, you know, I feel blessed, but I mean, it's not gonna me sitting on my ass and, you know, watching TV all the time is not gonna help me. So I, I, you know, yeah, I was, I gotta, yeah.

 I always think about what could I be doing with this time? Not that I'm not watching stuff. I'm like, I could learn how to play the guitar in that amount of time, you know? Yeah. Well, I mastered some skill. I mean, I think when you said, you know, we're not getting any younger, I think nowadays. It's really true.

 Right. You know, I think we used to say that, but now it's like, you see people getting sick or, you know, hearing people pass away. I mean, this is no joke. Yeah. It's not a day that goes by that I don't hear somebody. You know,  perishing, uh, you know, at an age where I think they shouldn't be  going through the stuff that they go through.

 And, you know, as you talk about New Year's resolution, resolutions and goals, you know, you got to get these, uh, you know, as midlifers, we got to get these screenings done, you know, I'm, I'm,  I'm, I'm a little late to the party, uh, with that. But I, you know, as I see people dropping off, I'm like, right, I gotta get this done.

 You know, I don't have a lot of things that I, that I have anxiety about,  but, you know, I, I do worry about, oh my gosh, you know, I'm, I'm midlife now. Well, now I've been midlife for a while, but, uh, I gotta, you know, I, I can't duck these, these, these screenings. I can't.  You know, some people will, you know, and I have friends that say, you know, I'm like, I'm not doing any of that.

 And I'm like, why? And it's like, I, cause it,  you know, it just makes me anxious and okay, well, if you don't do that and then you get something that you, if you had screened for it earlier, Now it's, you know, now, you know, now you could possibly die from it. I mean, I think it's better to know it and attack it sooner than you find out too late and there's nothing you could do about it.

Cause all these people who, you know, if they develop like prostate cancer or whatever, then they always say, Oh, I wish I had checked earlier. I wish I had done the screening. And, you know, I think people tend to ignore the signs sometimes too.  Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. We're all too busy. And you know, the, like you said, don't, don't ignore the signs.

 If you see, you know, if you see any little thing that's a little, it's a little bit off, you know, and you got, you do work and you got good, good insurance. Any of you don't go get it checked out, go get it checked out. It's, it's better to, to know,  uh, if it's a problem or even if it's not a problem, then to let it persist and linger.

 And then, Yeah. Yeah. If it is a problem, there's nothing you can do about it. So, that was the impetus for me  getting a colonoscopy.  Good job. And I said it. Thank you. Uh, I, I said, you know, it's, I'm a little late to get it.  I, I have to admit, I use the kit, you know, the thing, it's not as. Yeah. Accurate.  Correct.

 You know, so that's, I'm guilty of like, not wanting to deal with going under, you know, going through the process. I'm sure. So,  uh,  so I should probably. I thought about doing that too. Yeah. I thought about doing that too. That's a shortcut.  It is, but my thing about that is, and, and, you know, if you do that, that's fine.

 Uh, but you know, what I read that, you know, Hey, it's If you may get a false positive, right, right, right. So if you get a false positive, what's going to happen? You're going to have to get a real colonoscopy anyway, right? So I said, well, you know, I'm not going to add that little bit of possible anxiety to my life.

 So I'll just go get a colonoscopy. Yeah, I mean people, I think the doctors say just do the kit if you're not willing to do the other thing. Right. Because it's better than nothing. If you're not willing to do the full thing. Yeah, if you're not willing, yeah, if you're not ready to do that, that process, yeah, get the kit.

 By all means, do something. 

 What is something that you've had to come into terms with as a midlifer that you're willing to admit now as you're older that you weren't necessarily or willing to admit when you were younger?  I think there's, you know, I think about, there's actually quite a few things, you know, I think I used to, I used to always. 

Want to be the kid who listened to alternative music, you know, like kind of cool music, right? Like I didn't like pop music. I always wanted to listen to stuff that wasn't very popular, right? And so now though I love like show tunes and I love  Disney and I love things that I can sing too. So it's it's like this complete reversal I mean, I still like the alternative stuff and But I think there's a part of me that just likes things I can sing along to.

 And it's something that I don't necessarily need to hide or as I used to, like if, if you, um, like if I did karaoke with friends, like I, I wouldn't, I'd be like, okay, let's play a, you know, let me sing an air supply song.  Whereas back in the day, I would never admit that I liked air supply, you know, or something really cheesy.

So I think now I'm a lot more comfortable with.  You know, letting my taste be whatever they are, you know, they don't have to be a certain thing. I don't have to, you know, act a certain way or dress a certain way, you know, and just kind of accept that I'm who I am and, you know, take it or leave it. I think that's been a big change. 

Right. Like not trying to people, please not trying to worry about what other people think. I think that's a big, um, something that's really comforting. I think about getting older, you know, just doing your thing, embrace who you are. I mean, is there something that you have noticed as you've gotten older that  you're kind of like, okay, this is how I am and accept me for who I am.

Yeah. It's, uh, you know, you actually reminded me. Yeah. Um, while you were talking about it, I had a, I had one example, but it just reminded me of another example. And you were talking about music  and it's not embarrassing or anything like that, but, uh, I'm a big, big, uh, R and B nineties, R and B fan now.  And it kind of leads me into the, what I really wanted to talk about, but. 

Uh, you know, there'll be situations where, I don't know, maybe my heart has been broken or, or something of that nature and, you know, I'll, I'll just, I'll get in my car and I'll drive around listening to like 90s R& B, you know, and I'll, I'll get into it. I'm singing at the top of my lungs. People are looking at me crazy at the stoplights and stuff like that. 

Give me an example of a song that like. Uh, you know, like, uh, the, uh, you know, like pretty brown eyes, quick, quick, quick breaking my heart and stuff like that. You know, just songs about being dumped or, or being left behind, uh, somebody sleeping in my bed or something like that. You know, I'll find something.

 Would you ever make a mixtape for anybody?  No, not for anybody. I made it like a break. I made a playlist. I made a playlist, like breakup songs and stuff like that. I made a playlist. So, Hey, if I ever get any of my feelings, I mean, I'll, I'll just hop in the car and I'll blast. I mean, I mean blast RB. So this is recently before maybe that, where it was more like a closet thing that you would,  you'd like.

 It was, it was,  I wouldn't say recent. I say, you know, maybe in the last seven or eight years, but I just never knew that I was that type of guy that would do that. You know what I mean? Like, and then I was like, wow, I wonder,  you know, that was kind of my outlet of, of my feelings, you know, just to just get in the car and start singing. 

And, you know, I'll just, I'll ride around it. And it's particularly at night too. I just, there's something about driving around at night, listening to R and B. It just, it's, it's cathartic to me. It makes me feel better.  But that kind of leads me into,  uh, my,  uh, original example was I've had to come to terms that I'm a sensitive guy  and that would be something  that I would hide being younger, like if you call me sensitive, that was like.

 Damn near fighting words, you know, about, I don't know, in college I felt like you were kind of not sensitive, but you were kind of, oh, max you wanted me, yeah. A gentle guy.  , I'm a gentle, I'm a gentle soul. Yes. I, I'm a, I, I'm, you know, I, I, my feelings come out. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And that would be something that I would be embarrassed by or, you know, ticked off by.

But now I'm like, Hey man, that's just, that's just who you are. You are, you're a sensitive guy. Are you emotional? Do you cry easily? No, no, I'm not a, I'm not a crier. But I do think about, cause I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a thinker. I like to think about things. Instead of just letting things just roll off.  

Uh, I, um. Like, like, I  don't know. That's a hard one. Yeah, so. Cause I don't let it, I don't let it, okay. I'm sensitive about stuff people say. Okay, like, for example, uh.  And it could be something about clothing, hair, whatever, you know what I mean? And, you know, God knows I've had every hairstyle a man could ever have.

 But if somebody talks about my hair, you know, like, I don't, first of all, I don't know why anybody would talk about your hair, but somebody says something about your, Oh, I liked it the other way better. Okay. Well, that kind of sits on my soul a little bit. Like, all right, well.  Why do I care about what this person is saying about my hair, first of all, but I just, it makes me think, you know, it doesn't make me combative about, Oh, you know, fuck you. 

Like, you know, this is what I like. I just think about it. You know what I mean? Maybe that's. A  little different in sensitivity. I mean, I don't know, but other than people, you know, just not even thinking about it at all, you know, I'll be like, okay, well maybe one  or whatever, or somebody saying, would that make you change your hair?

No,  no, not necessarily, but it makes me think about it. You know, it makes me think about, well,  it's not the greatest, or it might hurt you a little. Would it hurt you a little bit? It might hurt me.  It's like a little dagger.  But, uh, yeah. So, I mean, just.  Yeah, I just, I'm a, I'm a sensitive guy. I just, I let, I, I, people will say or do things and I think about it probably a little bit more than most people would.

Okay. Interesting. Cause that's, I think that's the opposite of me. Like, I think I was more sensitive. When I was younger.  Um, gotcha,  gotcha. But I think it's taken me a long, you know, it, it's interesting, right? Like, alright, maybe. So you think you were different when you were younger?  No. Oh. Well, the difference is, I, I think I've always been sensitive. 

It is just, I was in denial about being sensitive. Oh, okay. You know, to myself and to others. You know, I've had people, okay, example, somebody will say, you're, you're being sensitive about it. Right. And that would be, Oh, no, no,  talking about or fighting words or yeah, whatever. But now I'm like, okay, yeah. All right.

 Yeah. I'm sensitive about it. So what? Yeah. Okay. And, uh,  I'm not going to cover up, I think it's worse to cover up your emotions and let it build. Then, then, you know, to let it out and express yourself now, if I do express myself, it's in a, it's in a non combative manner, you know, I'll tell people, Oh, I don't, you know, I don't think that was cool. 

I don't think that was right. Or you could have phrased that better or something like that,  but yeah, I'm a sensitive guy, but  that, that sensitivity is not a bad thing. It makes me,  it's, it's, it's thought provoking and it makes me think about other people's feelings as well. Yeah, kind of looking at things from their perspective. 

2024 has gotten off to a bang as far as that is concerned. You know, people are calling each other out. You know, you got the whole Kat Williams thing calling. Calling out damn near every comedian out there that he feel has stolen jokes or done people wrong.  Uh, you know, and there's other examples of Stephen A. Smith calling out Jason Whitlock. You got, uh, Aaron Rodgers calling out Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah, that was bad though. Yeah, it's, yeah, it's, it's bad. People are using these platforms now. Uh, there's another example of, uh, Pat McAfee calling out, he works for ESPN. And he called out a senior official on ESPN, accusing him of trying to sabotage his show.

 Yeah. So people are not, people are not, they're, they're using these platforms and they're, they're, they're, they're calling each other out without any  fear of reprisal or anything. And it's kind of crazy. I mean, do you think it's cause they're trying to. You know, cause controversy to boost their ratings. 

Is that part of it? Or is it, you know, if you think about, this is making me think about, you know, when you get  much older and you have no filter cause you just really, you know, have no man. You're like, when you, you know, like the whole person is like saying shit, you just don't care. You just don't care. So like, are we on the way to that? 

 In midlife? I think so. Like the, the, the old man and get off my lawn. I think we got away. I gotta think we got a ways for that. And I think these people that are doing this, and I'll be honest with you, these people are in positions where, you know, I talked about reprisal. These people are in, in, in, in fortunate  positions that they've earned, where they have such a presence and such stature at these companies that they might not care anymore, or they don't fear any kind of, uh,  Get back or the sort of thing, but uh, it's just like I don't know Is it like something in the air now where people are just  going after each other?

 And I don't know and I think back to your original question  I think there is a time and a place for that if if you feel like you've been wrong Particularly if they, for example, Katt Williams, he, he called out Steve Harvey. He called out, uh, surgery, the entertainer  and, and he expressed that, Hey,  they've said, or done some things that we have talked about and have squashed in private conversations, right?

And then these, these gentlemen are getting on these podcasts and YouTube channels and S and not.  Saying what they said to him, but saying something totally opposite, right? You know, for example  cat Williams said that said you the entertainer stole a joke from him. Uh huh okay, and He said that Cedric  Apologized for that. 

They had a conversation about it. Okay, and then he gets on this  club Shay Shay  Shannon Sharpe show and he's Shannon Sharpe asked him about that joke that he allegedly stole And then Cedric the entertainer is like,  well, the, the timeframe doesn't match up. How did I steal that joke? It's not possible.

Yeah. So Katt Williams has said, you know, enough is enough. I, I gotta speak my piece and speak my truth. And he just unleashed. And I mean, he talked about people stealing jokes, people selling their souls to the Illuminati people having these, uh, you know, if, if you, if you join the Illuminati or get with us, we'll give you.

This, this, this trophy wife and he listed like several examples of comedians who have the same type of wives, you know, that look the same that, you know, had to be, you know, had to come from the Illuminati, which made me chuckle. It was the funniest thing ever. If you ever seen this, uh, show, you gotta watch it.

But it's just been on and on and on to say, you know, we're still in January and it's just so many examples of people saying, Hey, I've, I've had enough of, you know, people's telling these lies. I'm going to get on here and speak my piece and, and that just, just go on. But who do you trust? I mean, you think Katt Williams is right to call people out?

It's just like anything else. It's just like anything else. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Yeah. Um, uh, you know, with Kat, I believe, I believe 90 percent of what he said. Right. Right. About other people, but then he, when he started talking about,  Oh, at the age of seven, I was, uh, I was admitted into college and, um,  you know, and then he says that at the age of 54 or whatever he is right now, he can run a four to 40 and stuff like, just like, all right, come on, bro.

 He said he read like 3000 books in a year at the age of seven or something. Yeah. I, you know, he lost me a little bit with that kind of stuff, but I believe most of what he said about the entertainment. Yeah. But that's like, if just because you're right, doesn't mean you should do it, you know, cause you're actually making a lot of people look bad and what's to be gained for that.

Like it's not going to make him necessarily look better, you know, just because he's right.  Yeah. No, well, I don't know. He's, He's gotten a lot of love for that. He's gotten a lot of love for that. So do you now look down or think less of the people that he was calling out? No, not really. No, because I don't have any  personal connection with these people.

I mean, they're just,  One thing I learned a while ago is, you know,  you never really want to meet your idols because you're going to be disappointed.  So I've never been a person to put people up on pedestals. You know, these guys have, through whatever circumstances, have been successful. But there's still people, there's still dudes just like me or people, you know, women or whatever, just like you.

They're still human beings. They're, they're, they're full of faults. They, they sin, they do everything else a normal person would do. So I don't, you know, I, I, it doesn't change if, you know,  yeah, I'll still watch family feud because of Steve Harvey, I'll still do whatever, you know, it doesn't change my opinion about these people, not at all, but you know, it makes me think about, okay, wow.

All right. What, what path did they have to go through? Right, right, right. Correct. You know, he called Kevin and Kevin Hart an industry plant.  You know,  it may be is, but I'm still gonna, I still think Kevin Hart's movies are funny. Right. So why should I start watching them? Yeah.  Well. So it doesn't change my opinion at all. 

I don't know. So what do we want to use our voices for, our platform for?  I think, you know, we've been saying it. Let's just say it. Keep saying, you know, we trying people out to out to be exposing people wish should do that. I, I don't, could be, I don't think this, I don't think this is the, the, the right platform for that.

Not yet. Maybe we get a little bigger. We can start doing that. Excellent. But no, we we're here to educate and, and entertain, you know, our, our midlife brethren out there. Stay strong. Stay, you know, be uplifting, but don't, you know, don't take any shit either. I mean, if somebody's trying to actively do you wrong, speak up.

 You know, if you have to be sensitive about it, be sensitive about it. 

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