Midlife Marauders

Midlifers Making a Splash - Kamala, Eminem, Deadpool & Snoop

• Will & Max • Season 1 • Episode 10

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Will & Max weigh in on the Harris/Walz Democratic ticket; review the Death of Slim Shady album and Deadpool & Wolverine flick (**spoilers**); and discuss how midlifers made waves at the Olympics without even competing. 

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Music. Welcome to midlife marauders with will and max. So let's jump into politics. A lot of stuff going on there, and some mid lifers making a big having a big presence in the political scene as of late. Yeah, it's, it's definitely changed the landscape for sure. You know, we had two very older gentlemen, and, you know, running and, you know, obviously Biden has dropped out. His VP, Kamala Harris has stepped up, you know, and assume 59 Yeah, assume the the democratic mantle, and she has chosen Tim walls, is that? How you pronounce his name? Walls as as her running mate. He's what is on 60 or 60 so, only a little bit older? Yeah, that's crazy. Looks a lot older than I know a lot of people are talking about, yeah, I think she looks ageless, but they're saying that it's also kind of like a double standard, right? Or it's kind of a change, because mostly people talk about women's looks, looks, and all of a sudden I talk, yeah, for sure. I mean, we needed an injection of youth, per se, into this race. So I'm like I said, I'm glad that Biden dropped out, you know, for health reasons. I don't think he would have, he would have made it, but, you know, now we got Kamala, we got walls, and they're 59 and 60 respectively. So I think that's good. I think that's good. I think that brings a different dynamic to the race, not saying if I'm Democratic or Republican, but I guess you can kind of figure it out. I like it how midlife is now considered youthful, right? Yeah. I mean, in this realm at least, yeah, they're older than both of us, so I'm feeling young and Spry with this, like, hey, but we could be running the country. Maybe we should be, for God's sake, but I think it's cool. He definitely we had mentioned this before, but he he definitely brings an older look, even though he's only one year older than Kamala. I think he said the white hair, yeah. I think he said he, I think he attributed that to being like a teacher at one point, he said the kids were really aged, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's good. I mean, you know, like we, you know, we're coming off to geriatric presidents, two older looking gentlemen, and I think it's good to have you know her, with her being, you know, much younger than Trump. So it gives a different dynamic, but it also kind of balances her out a little bit to have an older looking man as her as a run running mate. I think that gives, will give some people some comfort if you if you're willing to vote that way. So I think it's good. I think it was a good pick for her. And so why do you think that it'll give them comfort, versus like somebody who's maybe younger and and I don't know, has more years of ahead of them in politics? Yeah, I just think that just the way, you know, he looks, he looks like he's been through some things. It looks like he's got some experience, not saying Kamala doesn't, but it just kind of gives almost no, we're, like I said, we're coming from, like, grandfatherly looking presidents and some people like that, you know. So I think it's a good mix, even though they're only one year apart. We're speaking just from appearances. Like, you know, she's, yeah, yeah, she Yeah, she looks younger and, you know, he looks older, so his youth experience, age, whatever, just, just from appearances. I know if you do it, you know, quick little investigation. Oh, he's only one year older than her. But, you know, people are visual. They like to see that kind of thing. Well, it is funny how nowadays your appearance makes such a difference in people online or, you know, in social media, they they have no qualms about, you know, speaking out about, you know, kind of criticizing people for their looks, which is horrible. You know, it's not about your ability so much, right? It's about how you look on TV or on video, for sure. I mean, that's, that's what social media is. It was just a way for the the unwashed to voice their opinion, so to speak. So people with a lot of time, well, a lot of time, too much time on their hands. But yeah, I mean, I think it's good. It's gonna be an interesting race. I'm waiting for the debates. I think this election, well, every election is super important, but I think this is will be an historic election for sure, either way. Well, we're a little late to the party. We haven't done our official Eminem review. You know him being a mid lifer as well. I listened to it. It was good. What you kind of expect from him? What do you like about it? I mean, obviously his his ability to rap is always a standout to me. He's, he's one of the greatest that's ever done it, or will ever do it. That's, that's really, that's from you. That means a lot, that surprises you. No, I think, I think if you were to say that somebody was a good rapper, that means a lot. Oh, yeah. Well, he is, I mean, I mean his work speaks for itself. I mean, he's, he's up there. He's, I don't know if you put him on the Mount Rushmore of rappers, but he, you know, he not on the Mount Rushmore? No, because, not to me, because, although I recognize the quality of his work, he just does it his catalog. To me, I don't listen to enough Eminem's. I don't run back to a lot of Eminem songs. You know what I'm saying? Like, my Mount Rushmore would be somebody like, you know, I'm doing something, driving around, cleaning whatever. I was like, Oh man, I haven't heard, you know, I really feel like a a nice Eminem set a playlist would be perfect right now, not even cleaning. I would do it for cleaning like something I need to No, well, no cleaning to me, we're getting off topic here, but cleaning to me is yes, assuming Yeah, we've already talked about this for sure, you know, like Eminem, I would need to be, like, getting hyped, like going somewhere, going to a party, going to whatever, you know, getting my, You know, being energetic. So, but going back to my original point, he is very good. Sometimes I think he's too good for the masses, but that's another story. But the album was good, the production. Production was good to me. When I listened to it, I immediately thought of Dave Chappelle, and the reason why? The reason why is because those are the the entertainers that come to mind to me that seem to be bucking cancel culture and his his out different now than when he first came out, or, you know, no, but it's not different. But because of cancel culture, people have had to change or adapt. They couldn't say the things that they said years ago. But Eminem doesn't care. He, you know, you know he's saying, like, this is his last album. He doesn't care anyway, and he's not afraid of being canceled. He actually says he can't be canceled. It's kind of like Dave Chappelle, is it really his last album? That's what he said. That's what he said. Just kind of, yeah. I mean, you know, he's lucky. I was just wondering if he's gonna emerge as some other have another Alter Ego. Oh, that was, you know, that's actually a great idea, you know, because I don't think we've ever had anybody do that. You know, with with the hip hop culture, we tend to not listen to or appreciate our greats when they get older, they seem to get phased out once they get in their 40s and 50s like that. It's a very microwave kind of culture right now. We want the new and fresh. It's kind of not like rock or any other genres where, like, you know, the who is still performing or Rolling Stones, yeah, I mean, and they're selling out stadiums. You know what I mean. I you know people, older hip hop artists, they still perform, but they're not selling out stadiums. They're doing small days, small venues, that sort of thing, and people are not going to see them in mass. It's a certain little subculture of people that still kind of appreciate them and will go see them at small venues, you know, like they're not doing, like Wembley Stadium or something like that, like the role of stones are doing. But, uh, yeah, so he says his, this is his last album, um, you know, again, he's, I mean, how do you think he's coming? You know, there's people, a lot of people, putting mid lifers, putting out, or even older, putting out. New albums. Like, do you feel like this is on par with what he's put out before? Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. Like I said, the production was there, the his quality, his ability to rap may have gotten better. I mean, do you feel like, do you feel like he should have, you know, he almost protests too much about like, oh, you know, Gen Z calling him out for being on PC. Do you think he should kind of grow up a little bit, you know? I mean, I like the Eminem who knelt at the Super Bowl, you know. I like the Eminem who kind of, yeah, speaks out about Black Lives Matter. And it seems like he's kind of grown up. But in a way, this album feels like he's, you know, he's still dissing Christopher Reeves, you know, little people, to me that's like, do you really need to, do you really need that in order to do an album, especially at 51 or however old he is? I mean, I agree with you. I think he has grown up, but I think there's a part of society that still enjoys when he does stuff like that. It's, you know, you know, maybe, maybe this is hard to know if he's who He's appealing to, you know. I mean, it is like deja, right? People gonna get turned off. Some people will like him more, right? I think, I think we're being not true to ourselves. Sometimes, I think when we're amongst our loves, when loved ones or close friends, or, you know, whatever, we still, maybe, I don't mean to speak for you, but we still kind of joke about these things, you know, and we, you know, we, we're with our trusted circle of friends that, you know, we're not running for office or anything. So it's not like it's going to get out. But I think, I think that kind of humor is not the worst thing in the world, because I think everybody does it. They just keep it to themselves. Now, if you say it's dangerous to put it out role model. Well, who says he is, does he? But that's they do, they do, don't you? No, yes, I agree with you. His Relevancy is still there, but I don't think he really cares about being a role model. I don't think he really cares, you know, you know, I don't think he wants to be a role model. I think he wants to do music. I think he wants to be appreciated as a great artist, a great rapper, a great musician. But I don't think he cares about, I mean, he's 50 plus years old. I don't think, oh, he just wants to say what he wants. He wants. He doesn't want to be censored or, yeah, of course. And I think that's just natural. As we get older, we tend to say more of what we want to say and not care as much anymore. So true too. I guess he doesn't really care who his audience is. He's just expressing himself as an artist, maybe 100% and you know, if what he says is true, he's on his way out anyway, so he doesn't care. But, uh, yeah, I thought it was good. Now, again, this is what would you rate the album out of what? One to 10. I'd give it a, I'd give it a 7.5 No, that's good. Good. Not, not A, not A classic album, not, not one that people are going to run to years from now. And you'd be like, Oh, that was, that was timeless. That was, you know, a work of art, anything like that. It was good, you know, you go back and listen to some tracks, but it's not, you know, it's not some shady or, you know, or even, I even, like recovery, I'm trying to think of all Eminem albums, but, uh, yeah, no, it was good. I think it was. It was good in terms of the music and the rapping style, or whatever. So I'd probably give a seven, five or eight, but I think just some of the, I think, especially, I think that Christopher Reeves just bothers me. It's like, Come on, just let it go. Well, I don't know. I read somewhere that I read somewhere what? What somebody asked him, and they might have been a joke, like, Why do you keep Robertson, Christopher Reeves? And he said, because it's easier to rhyme something with Reeves, right? It's just because of the run, yeah, you can figure something, yeah, yeah, something else, yeah. He really, he said he really didn't have anything to do with it, you know. And he probably is trying to be provocative and get people to talk about it, but yeah, I felt like that was in poor taste. But anyways, anyways, I did think it was a good album, and I actually might go back to it one day. Yeah, you should, I don't know if it's not a clue, because I think it was actually kind of complex, because he had a lot of different styles of songs, and I. Um, you know, the song dedicated to his daughter, another song to his daughter. So I thought that was, I like that. So I like the variety on the album, and that he's still, you know, I think he is still putting stuff out, which is great, and stuff that's kind of fresh. Well, speaking of good projects, did you have a chance to see the Deadpool and Wolverine movie? I did, and another good showing of mid lifers, right? Yes. Kudos to them. Hugh Jackman, I think. Yeah. Ryan Reynolds is 47 Hugh Jackman's 55 a lot of cameos from mid lifers. So what do you think? I mean? Do you think it appeals to a lot of different age groups, or mostly people who are nostalgic and are well, I think it appeals to, obviously, Marvel comic book fans, kind of the contemporary ones are and kind of throwing back to when Marvel first was starting with the cameos and stuff like that, it was a good movie. It was a good movie. It was entertaining to me. The cameos were good. We'll touch on that. I think the plot line was dumb, to be honest with you, but yeah, there's always something similar. It feels like a lot of the Marvel plot lines rely on, yeah, if anybody hasn't watched it, there's going to be spoilers, spoilers, for sure, but I thought it was good. I don't the younger audience, not really, not so much, unless they're, like, comic book fans tween, my tween kid really like, oh, okay, my older teen didn't love it. But my, I think, because, you know, if there's a lot of there's movies where there's a lot of gore, but this was kind of like funny gore. So he could, kind of, yeah, he laughed a lot. I laughed a lot. But in between, maybe the 1516, year old didn't laugh. Them year old and the 50 so year old mom. What we I loved it, yeah. I mean, I like the fight scenes. I usually don't love fight scenes, but I thought it was funny. But you really, you really talked about that one scene, there were some good kind of dramatic scenes. And so, yeah, I mean, it's kind of sounds silly to talk about great acting in a Marvel movie, but there that one scene where they were in the car, and Wolverine was kind of dressing down Deadpool about how he was worthless, and couldn't even say, you know, couldn't even save his relationship with a stripper and and all this other stuff. I mean, that was some, if you go back and look at that, that was some acting. He was acting his butt off in that scene. And, well, I think it's a great pairing, right, to have, you know, crazy Merc with the Mouth with, you know, a very serious Wolverine, yeah, that kind of made it comical, but also touching as well, right? Two very different personalities, for sure, for sure, in, like I said, good movie. You know, the plot line was kind of out there a little bit, you know, what do you think of the cameos? Cameos, awesome. I mean, that that really, I wouldn't say, saved the movie for me, but it really kind of put it from, yeah, you know, good, decent movie to a great movie. It was good. I would love to see, you know, blade in it. You know, he kind of people rope, don't really know this, but blade, that first blade movie was like the first profitable movie for Marvel. It wasn't called the MCU yet, but it was a Marvel movie, and that kind of led into the Iron Man movies and sort that sort of thing. So, yeah, yeah. So, yeah. I actually didn't really think Yeah. So, so, so it was good that they had him in the movie. They brought him back. Yeah, well, you know, Ryan Reynolds was in the third blade movie, which is not a good movie, and him and Wesley, he was in there as Deadpool or as somebody. No, he was a different character. He was a Hannibal King. I believe it was his name. But you know, you heard many stories about how they didn't really get along on set at all. We're talking Wesley Snipes and Ron Reynolds. So it was very, very shocking that Wesley Snipes was even in this move, because there's a long his. Three of them not liking each other, and I think they even referenced that. That was a joke in the movie. And so that was good, and I'm glad they Yeah, there are a lot of insights, yeah, yeah. Two, two midlife men got over, you know, prior beef, or whatever you want to call it, from another movie, and we're able to pass that together. And I've seen pictures of them smiling. They have like a Green Lantern card, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, Jennifer Garner came back as a lecturer. Yeah, that was great. That was good. Who else? How old is Channing Tatum? 44 Channing Tatum now, 40 Yeah, 43 Yeah. The interesting thing about Channing Tatum is he played Gambit, and that's a role that he wanted to play many, many years ago, but that project kind of fell through. So this was his time to finally play that character. And I think, I thought he did a good job. Yeah, and you know, he got good press on that, so maybe yeah, they're talking about, yeah, they're talking about him doing a gambit project. And obviously good Chris Evans made a cameo. And everybody thought he was going to be one character, but he he played another character that he played before he played Captain America. So that was, that was humorous. That was very that was very cute, yeah. I was totally confused, yeah. So it was good. It was very good. I thought Hugh Jackman, outtakes at the end. Yeah. That was good. Hugh Jackman. He gives me, uh hope and uh inspiration, because, you know, he's a 55 year old man, and you know, I'm working on my fitness and goals and all that stuff, and just look at him now. I'll never I'm hearing that was his real body for sure. Yeah, wow. Yeah. So, yeah, I like his singing voice. He was a Greatest Show musical guy. Yeah, watching that. But now good for would you rate the movie out of 10? I'd get out of give it a I give it an EIGHT. Not give it an EIGHT. I'll give an eight. Some of the things were kind of silly, yeah, at least an eight, maybe 8.5 Well, yeah, it's up, yeah. And I'm not like a Marvel action person. Anyhow, what's up there? It's definitely, I would go see it again if you know somebody wanted to see it. And that's how I it. Was one of those things that's good to see in the theater, I think a big screen, 100% 100% but I definitely go see it again. You know, there's with those type of movies, there's always something you didn't catch why you saw the first time. So being a Marvel and comic, and there was a lot of dialog, it was quick, quick, quick, yeah, yeah. I definitely see it again. So did you watch the Olympics? I did watch the Olympics. You know, it's, it was good, you know, I, I think that's probably the most Olympics I've ever watched, be honest with you. Like, because Snoop was on, no, I mean, what do you think about Snoop, you know, and flavor, flav, and, you know, other mid lifers who are kind of or Tom Cruise right, mid or later than midlife folks showing up. Like, do you think that boosted the ratings made people more interested? You know, what demographic were they really trying to target? I was entertained by Snoop a couple of times, but he didn't make or break the Olympics to me. I mean, it is what it is. It's just okay. They're they're paying this man half a million dollars a day is what I'm reading. What he got. I'm like, yeah, no wonder he did it, yeah, no. No wonder he was everywhere, you know, at all the events, um, it looked good for him, because everybody loves him. So that's why he was a good person. Good ambassador is we want to call him an ambassador? Yes, exactly. Okay. I I thought it was cute. It was cute, cute. I thought it was funny. I thought, you know, good for him. It didn't add any value to me. It didn't. It really didn't. So I would have watched it and enjoy. You know, the mid lifers were represented, right? Because, you know, for the most part, as athletes your career, you know, you're not going to be in the Olympics unless you're, of course, like, 30s or under, right? Yeah, yeah, no, at least we had some rotation. Well, not only we had, you're that shooter, the Turkish shooter, right? Yeah. Like, you. Was 51 on the silver mill. But yeah, you know, Snoop. Flavor Flav, yeah. Flavor Flav, how old is he gonna be in his 60s, right? 65 I would say, yeah, probably late 50s, for sure. What sport did he support? Was it women's water polo? So that was, like, a public relations thing. I thought that was cool. I thought that definitely brought more attention to women's water polo, because I don't think that's a very popular sport, but, you know, compared to some of the other ones. So I thought that was great. A little crossover. No, it was good. You know, shout out to snoop. Shout out to Flavor Flav. Shout out to any, any of our Celine Dion singing in the opening. And I also thought, did you watch basketball like I thought Dwayne Wade did a great job commentating, and he's early 40s. What did you think of the Turkish shooter, since he's one of the mid lifers who actually competed. So he got a lot of press, right? Yeah, yeah. He got a lot of press just because he didn't, he didn't have the, I don't really want to even say the the equipment, or, you know, everybody else had, like, like, he just rolled up with his, you know, midlife glasses, and just, you know, had his hand in his pocket, his off hand was shooting at targets, and got the silver so good for him, man. And there's a whole Yeah, he got a lot of Yeah. Got a lot of media was covering him, yeah, good friend. My kids were like, hey, yeah, we saw that guy. He was cool, right? So we got a great meme out of it. So hey, I'm all for that. Yeah. So shout out to him. Yay. Good job. But I wish we had a little bit more. I guess we can't, because it's an athletic endeavor, but I wish we had a little more midlife representation, like, do you? Can't you be Tom Cruise rappelling down, you know, for the closing ceremonies? Yeah, was that for a movie? It just looked kind of silly, yeah, I just think he they were trying to add excitement, because it's going to Hollywood. You know, the next Olympics are going to be in LA, I thought, Celine Dion, I don't know if you got to see her perform at the end of the opening ceremony, and she was, I guess, in the Eiffel Tower, and it was super powerful, because I guess she's got, you know, an illness, and she was just amazing. And I'm not a huge Celine Dion fan, but she's mid 50s. She's probably our age. Yeah, no, for sure, made me kind of learn more about her. And are we ready to throw LeBron in midlife category? Is he midnight? He's getting up there, right? Yeah. Is he 40 yet? Not yet, right? He is 39 No, he's not quite there. He'll be there. His birthday is in December. Shout out to LeBron. Well, that was a lot of the the like, who, who is it? You know, their last Olympics, right? You hear that a lot. This is going to be their last Olympics. Oh, that was Diana. Diana Taurasi, she's 40 she's 42 you know Diana? Yeah, she's on the women's race. They were talking about like she didn't play at all on in the final, right? In the final, did she play a little bit at the beginning? No, I don't think she played it all in the final. She played all up to that point sparingly, but she played, but she's more like a leader, kind of a coach out on the floor, you know, obviously, just being her six gold medal or six, yeah, that's amazing. That is amazing. So shout out to her and, you know, and LeBron have was showing some gray in his beard. That was kind of surprising. Well, we are getting old 3939 but yeah, it was, it was, you know, it's amazing, and to watch the basketball, yeah, yeah, soccer, right? Women's Soccer was, it was a good game, too. Another highlight, yeah, man, another highlight. Did you end up watching the breaking? Because I didn't watch Breaking. No, but I did. I have seen clips of the Australian woman who competed in it. And if you have not seen Do yourself a favor. Do yourself to the kangaroo down. Oh my gosh. Well, you know, they already came out and said there's no breaking in the next Olympics. Now I don't know if that's because, yeah, it will not be in the 2028, Olympics. Well, there's controversy, right? Because they're saying the whole thing about breaking or break dancing is that it shouldn't. Be so scripted or, you know, people shouldn't be able to it should be more following. I guess it's a So, it's an athletic endeavor. It's not an it's not Olympics. For it to me so, and this is coming from a kid who grew up in the era when breakdancy was really, really popular and tried it. Did you bring you know, you tried it, of course, of course. Did you spin on every kid? No. I mean, I certainly attempted it, but it wasn't very good. I mean, you know, I tried everything, windmilling, everything, popping and locking everything. I mean, had, you know, I have my cardboard box and we go down to my friend's uh, basement and work on our routine and work on our music College. No, no, this is, this is in the 80s. Isn't that interesting? That breakdown has been around that long? Yeah, yeah, you used to be a B boy. What is it? I've never really heard that term will be, I don't think you should admit that Max, because that's not very cool if you didn't know what b boy is, but you have time to educate yourself for the next, next round of Olympics. But, yeah, yeah, but they're not gonna have it. Well, that's true. That's true. Well, maybe they'll do, I don't know. Maybe that's like twerking. I shouldn't say that that's not that'll never be an Olympic sport, but I would watch it, though. Thanks for joining us for this episode of midlife marauders. Follow us on social media and wherever you stream your podcast. 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