Midlife Marauders

Will Turns 55; Menendez/Milli Mania; Shaboozey gig

• Will & Max • Season 1 • Episode 12

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Will celebrates his 55th birthday 🎉 and contemplates his boozey ways. We also share our thoughts on the Mendendez brothers Netflix series and Milli Vanilli's revival as part of the soundtrack. Will reminisces on the hot albums of 1994 and how there are limits to how late a midlifer should stay out for a live concert. 

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Music. Welcome to midlife marauders with Will and Max. How is everything going with you? Max? It's good, and you just celebrated a birthday not too long ago. I did. I did the big 55th driving the speed limit. Now, that's big. Now you're joining me. Hey, yeah, we're together. Now, can you tell how excited I am about that? It's cool. I mean, age is nothing but a number, that's that's what my father taught me. So I try to live by that mantra. Do you feel any different? No, no, I feel about the same. It's just just another, another number on your birthday, I don't feel any different than I was. 5453 52 took you out, right? How did you celebrate? I did. We had kind of a two fold celebration, actually, kind of three to make, to be honest with you, so did they plan it, or you planned it? I'm not a planner of my birthday. I mean, it's just, yeah, I'm not a huge celebrator of my birthday. I know you, you went out three celebrations, right? Yeah. Well, it was kind of like, Thanks, man. It was kind of like, you know, I have like, different sets of friends, so some people couldn't do the actual birthday because it was a Friday to have kids or whatever. So did something with them. On Thursday, we had a happy hour at a local restaurant, and it was cool. Had a, you know, decent little turn. Well, good Turner. I shouldn't say decent. I'm always appreciative of friends coming. But probably had like 12 and 15 people there at the happy hour. That's nice. So everybody wanted to celebrate with you, right? Yeah, yeah. Because one thing, one thing that my friends can always rely on me for, is to help them celebrate their birthday. So, you know, I try to make it to anybody's Well, my friend's birthday parties as best as I can. So I guess people are seeing that energy and want to reciprocate on that. The problem with birthdays, and I don't know if you experienced this max, is that when you celebrate your birthday, and particularly if you go out now, you may have a different group of friends, but my life is very different from you, but I find that if you are a person that goes out and it's on your birthday, there is maybe I'm rolling with the wrong group of friends. I don't know. I love them to death, but there's always a pressure to they always want to buy you a drink. Or, do Shu to drink? Yeah, yeah. And so it depends, right? Do you have friends who like to drink and friends who don't like to drink? Or do you are all of your friends pretty much drinkers? All my friends are pretty much, yeah, we're, we're very, you know, in a social setting there, there are going to be some some drinks that's very American, too, cultures too. Yeah, that's when you go out and you go to a bar, right? And the Bar serves alcohol, so, right? And it's become more sophisticated as you make the drinks that you're drinking now 100% you know, it was, it's not just when they're just chugging beers and doing that. I mean, we're drinking, you know, nice bourbons or or tequila or stuff like that, you know, like PBR, yeah, yeah. We're not drinking like Milwaukee's best and stuff like that. You know, we're having like that in a while, old fashions and espresso martinis and stuff like that. But you know, there's still those that you know, like, well, let's do a shot, let's it's your birthday, let's do a shot. And that's cool for a while, but like, man, it becomes overwhelming. It becomes and I hate telling my friends, no, no, I'm good, because they always seem to be disappointed. You know what I mean, like, it, does it give them excuse, like it's, like this peer pressure so that they can keep drinking too? Because that's how well, I guess. So I, you know, I never, I never thought about that. Yeah, everybody's drinking, yeah, and you don't want to leave anybody out. But as the night goes on, let's say the party started at nine, right? We get there, and you know, a couple of my friends have, you know, well, let's do a shot. All right, I know I'm doing one with with someone so, all right, I got your next one. All right, that's cool. But then, you know, if you have late arriving friends that come in hour two hours later, they're catching the tail end of that. And you're telling them, No, buddy, I've already had like, five or six shots, you know? And then they always have this look of disappointment. I was like, Well, I'm sorry I've been here all night. You, you know, you buy me a shot now it's gonna put me over the edge. So it's always, you know, I found myself. It's funny to me, but it's like, I think you've been pigeonholed. Yeah, yeah. Like to turn down, to deny my friends the opportunity to do a shot. It's it is what it is. And you know, what's the solution to that? The solution to that is, to me, is you have to tell them up front, I'm not doing shots, and don't take it. Don't, don't take it personal. No offense. But I if I have 30 friends there, and the 30 friends each want to buy me a shot, what do you think that's going to do to me? You know what I mean? You know so or you can say, Alright, I'm going to do a shot at this particular time, we're gonna do one big birthday shot, and then that's gonna be it. I can't keep going all night, right? Doing shots, actually, I think there's a limit, right? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, yeah. I think it's still, you have a lot of friends, and a lot of you, know, maybe different groups of friends, right? I gotta get a piece of you, so ideally, like, if you were to celebrate, like, if you were to pick, like, if somebody said to you, hey, what do you want to do for your birthday? What would you pick? So I think going forward, yeah, I think I'm gonna switch it up now. I think going forward, it's just gonna be a nice dinner, and, you know, we'll do some wine and whatever, and then that'll close it out exciting, you know, that's it, and go to bed. Um, yeah, I think that's, I think that's gonna be it. I think the the bar birthdays, although very fun, yeah, I think, I think they're, they're limited. Now, I don't want that to sound like I'm becoming a fuddy duddy or a crotchety old man or anything like that, but there's only so much that you could do. I mean, I'm 55 years old. I've been celebrating drinking birthdays since I was 18. I mean, true, yeah. So there's only so much you can do, so switch it up next time, right? Switch it up. Switch it up. You know, I think my friends will understand and, you know, and that, I mean, they're mid lifers too, so they got to be feeling kind of the same thing. I'm thinking, right, right? Yeah, yeah. So it's probably pressure on them to, we're going to another bar for birthday, they probably would be relieved to just have a quiet dinner somewhere. So, I mean, going back to what you said about is it a a monumental birthday? I'm not sure how you feel. I mean, I don't feel any different than when I was 54 or 53 I guess I do qualify for some additional discounts. Now, I remember one time I was going to play golf, and guy was like, You're not 55 yet. Are you? And at first I was offended. I was like, hell no. And I was like, wait a minute, I'm 54 I was not that big of a stretch. And then I was like, No, I'm not. And then I kind of calmed down a little bit. I was like, Well, what happens when you turn 55 Yeah, what was the benefit? Now, he said, Oh, you get, like, a certain percentage off. Oh, see, that's a good discount. It is, yes. Oh, who doesn't love to save some money? But I mean, 55 I don't think that's the that's the year, at least, in my eyes, that you should start getting, like, reductions, because you're old. You know, I thought that kicked in at maybe 60. I thought, I figured I have like, five more, five more years of of this. But depends, though, like, it depends on the place, but I maybe we should embrace it, because we're still young enough to, you know, we're still youngish, you know, so we can get the discount, but still play golf, you know, yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm never gonna turn down a discount, but it's just like, wow, 55 and then, you know, I drive around here, where I live, and there seems to be a lot of adult communities, right? And those are 55 plus, right? I think we talked about this before, but yeah, those are 55 plus. I'm like, who would live in this if they just turned 55 I mean, maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, right? I guess. So maybe I'm looking at the wrong way, but at 55 I don't feel like I need to be in a community of, like, aged people. Like, what benefit is that for me? You know what I'm saying, right? And, oh, I'm sure there's a lot of benefits, right? Like, you don't have to worry about. You don't have to worry about lawn care, right? Because most of those places, they take care of it. I'm sure it's a fairly safe, secure community. You know, most of them are gated, right? Or a lot of them are gated. And so you've got, yeah, I'm sure there's lots of amenities, probably there's social activities, and some people don't like to have kids running around, right? They're at the adult quiet. You know, that's a great point. I didn't think of it like that. You know, maybe that is the, one of the benefits I could see of is not having children running around. That's, that's a great point. But, like, as far as, like, the physical stuff, I mean, 55 Come on, you can't stand for your lawn or whatever. I don't know, I just freeze up time for other things. I mean, when you're talking about moving to a golf community, that's not that much different, right? Retirees communities, right? It's just a label to me, like, you know, I was telling my friend a story, like, what if I meet a woman, you know, and we start going out, you know? Of course, I'm not gonna lie about my age, but maybe we haven't gotten to that part, right? What I mean? And she's like, oh, let's, you know, I said, Hey, let's go back to my house for a night. That would be embarrassing to the community, active community, 55 plus, because, yeah, with some somebody like in there in her 30s, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that's a good, good argument for not moving to a 55 plus. Do I have to have my age like, you know, the minimum, like, plastered on a banner before I go into my house? I don't want that so that that's, that's what all gave me pause about that. But it sounds like you're not too um bothered by turning 55 I feel like I was thinking more. It's like, oh no, we're getting closer to 60. No. I mean, I'm not bothered by because, first of all, I'm blessed to be 55 Yeah. Attitude, so yeah. I mean, the thought of 60 just around the corner of that is a little bit troublesome. That is a little bit, uh, yeah, that's a little bit scary. But, you know, I'm 55 I'm not 60, so we'll deal with that. When I turn to, do you feel like Time moves faster now that you're older? 100% Oh, it's not even it's not even close. I mean, I don't know. I just remember as a kid, I think, like an hour, you know, you sitting in a classroom, and an hour is forever. Yeah, that's a good point. And then school was dragging, right, dragging. Now, blink my eye, and two hours have gone. And, you know, now, like the whole days are just gone, like the bikes are flying by, flying by. It's an interesting phenomenon. I'm not sure why that is. I mean, I don't know, but you're right. It's just days just fly by years. I mean, it's interesting. Somebody needs to maybe there is a study about why, as you get older, like time just seems to move at the speed of light. So speaking of getting older, I watched the monsters, the Lyle and Eric Menendez story. The series on it's on Netflix, right? I think it's on it is on Netflix, yep. So a lot of Menendez mania, you know, a lot of people have been watching this. There's a documentary too that followed that. I think Kim Kardashian went to visit them in jail. But I think what I liked about it the most was kind of going back in time and kind of seeing the clothing, the music from that time period, from the late 80s, early 90s, and it just really brought me back. So I thought it was a great series, you know, a little bit sensational, but just the way they filmed it and the way they integrated the music, the soundtrack, I thought was awesome. So I know you watched some of it, too. So what were your thoughts on? Yeah, definitely, no, definitely, you know, hearing the music brought brought back memories of that, that era, you know, it was the early 90s. We both were still in college, yeah, yeah, wow. The clothes a little bit younger than or maybe one of them is about our age, but yeah, yeah, that thing they were high school, still, yeah, I think yeah, yeah, so I want to say 17 and 19. Yeah, yeah. You know, I was like We touched on the music. It was very nostalgic. The clothing, you know, with the pop collars and everything you know, the Polo polo, the eyes are rugby shirts, yeah, yeah. Definitely nostalgic. Definitely took me back to that, to that, that era, that time and place. What a wonderful time that was, I'll be honest with you, I didn't really follow the case that much back then, because, either, yeah, because, you know, we were, we were in college, we were kind of like, I mean, we obviously knew about, you know, what was going on in the world, you know, but that was before the internet and everything else, so we had to rely on newspapers or word of mouth, right? So it's so different, right? We got news, and you could be very selective, and what we paid attention to, have it all around us, sure. And, you know, we were just kind of doing our own thing in COVID, our own little world. And you know, the fact that that was way over in on the West Coast, you know, we were just kind of insulated from that. And, I mean, definitely heard about it, but I didn't. I didn't really pay too much attention to it. I just, it was just to me. It was just like two rich, snobby boys up to no good. I mean, well, I guess murders a little bit more up to no good. But, yeah, it didn't. It didn't. It didn't register for me. It didn't. I had no feelings about it whatsoever, but they're serious, you know, like you said, it did bring me back to that time and place and and made me think about what was going on, you know, in my world back then, you know, particularly with music and fashion and everything. So it was cool to watch. I watched the first three episodes, and it really, I mean to me, it was, it was like watching a crime drama that I barely knew anything about. So, yeah, which is good. I think we learned a lot. I think I learned a lot for sure, for sure, what might have happened, right, and reasons behind why they killed their parents. But I think, you know, having Milli Vanilli play have a few songs of theirs really brought me back. And I was trying to think about, did I like them? I think I did, you know, I mean, I think they were such a big sensation back then. Well, well, Max, I got to put a disclaimer out here for a second. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta blow you up a little bit. So to our listening audience, Max has been, you know, we have side conversations. We plot an outline for the podcast, and everything Max has become, would you say obsessed or enthralled, or what's the right word for your fascination with Milly Vanilli right now, talk to me about No, I do, you know, to the with the Menendez brothers. I do like true crime, so that's probably my guilty pleasure, right? But Millie Vanilli, I think just because I don't know it just that really brought me back to that time, and I started looking at the old videos, and I feel like I might even have the album somewhere, but, wow, you bought the album. They were just, you know, I don't know. They just were so different. And I had no idea that they were actually German and French, right? So they're actually, and you know that people, you could look at them, and a little different. Well, of course, but I was listening to their voices, right? I was listening to singing. It's obviously a very like, soulful voice. Who can speak perfect English, right? You know, you can only hear the British people who can, they still sound American when they're singing. But this was like, you know, just you didn't hear any accents. So I think I watched the documentary as well about, okay, so of course, they talk about how it was obvious to a lot of people in the industry, and a lot of people were covering things up, but people knew that it wasn't them singing, and it wasn't until they were nominated for the Grammy and accepted the Grammy, which I guess was a mistake, like one of their talent agents, who didn't know that they weren't the real singers, submitted, you know, the nomination, and then that's how they end up getting caught, right? Because it kind of threw them into an even bigger spotlight, and people were, you know, because I guess with the Grammys, you have to sing. It should be you singing live. So it's a fascinating story. I just think, and then I look at their videos, like a lot of their clothing, you know, it's come back around, right? Like the frayed jeans, and, you know, they have, like, these leather jackets that look cool, you know, maybe not their shoulder pad outfits, but at the time, you know, they were, they were kind of sexy, androgynous, you know, they're models, right? So can you blame this producer for thinking, Okay, I want to get the best sound and the best look and put it together. I mean, that's what people do nowadays all the time, right? But at that time. Because I think they, you know, it was just so egregious, what they did, because they're basically lying to the world and not admitting it. I think it was just a bigger deal than it maybe it should have been, but it does make you think about music. Of that time I had sent you a clip about I saw this, this reel on Instagram about MC Hammer, and I couldn't believe that that was 35 years ago. A lot of times, a lot of time has passed. I'm like, Man, I remember, I guess I was in high school at time. Yeah, I was in high school, and when hammer came out, it was so different because, you know, me living in North Carolina and been having roots in New York. It was all just east coast, all east coast, all New York centric music. And I started hearing about MC Hammer, and you know, the videos, videos were hot back then, and I just couldn't believe the wave and how on fire he was with this West Coast music. And I took it took me a long time to to even like it, but it was more so the videos of that time. Think about how powerful videos were back then. They really, are really an MC Hammer Correct, correct. And when you just started watching the videos, the music was, it was what it was, and you you eventually liked, and it was cool, but it was the dancing and the theatrics of the video that really, really got you hooked. And you know, when I saw that video, and that was probably his first video, and it was very basic, it was very low budget, but, you know, you just seen the dancing and how that wave just caught on. Everybody was doing the running man dance back then, and all these empty hammer moves and stuff like that. It was really, really cool. But the reason that's another one who kind of ended up in like, scandal. And, yeah, yeah, he has some financial, financial situations, but he kind of bounced back. He he kind of bounced back with it. He made some money off of, like, like, I forget the name of the company, but they do, like, hooks and picture hooks and stuff like that. And he has some commercials for that. So, oh yeah, yeah, making poking fun at himself. Yeah, for sure. You know the hammer part of it. But after I sent you that reel, I started thinking about music from back in the day, and you know it being 2024 and I was like, let me look back 30 years ago, you know, with 1994 and I was really, I guess I just forgot, because I'm old now, yeah, Tom does fly. But I just kind of look back at 1994 and that was a very, very powerful year. As far as hip hop. Maybe you can go on and tell me about other genres, but I couldn't. I couldn't believe the the the albums that came out that year. You know, you're talking about ready to die, but by Notorious BIG you're talking about Illmatic, by NAS. You're talking about Southern pluralistic music by outcast. And you know, were you working at the record store at that time? I'm 94 I believe so, right. I believe even more hyper aware, yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. But yeah, that was just a great year, particularly in hip hop music. And that kind of carried forth to me. You know, that was probably the most impactful time for me, as far as hip hop was probably 90 to 9698 those are the years that I go back and listen to all the hip hop artists back then. But yeah, it was just a great year. And it's just a great memory, very nostalgic. Tell me what you thought about 1994 as a year of music. Do you have any Well, I was just wondering, well, I know. I just went to see Green Day. And their album Dookie, which is a funny name, was released in 1994 which is amazing. And they were only maybe 1819 years old when they released it, but, and that's kind of stood the test of time, I think. But, you know, curious to see like, are you still listening to some of these bands? Are you Are they still around? Are they still making music? You know, have they stood the test of time? Do you think I would say no, pretty much to the last, last question that you posed, as far as I mean, there are obviously some acts that are at a have, but, you know, just looking at a list of hip hop albums that came. Out it's, it's kind of wild, because, you know, these people would be, if you think about it, would be our age. You know, right now, a lot of them have unfortunately passed away. You know, there are about four or five albums of that year that I I would periodically go back and listen to, you know, obviously, you know, everybody still listens to notorious, big everybody still listens to NAS. But are you listening to new stuff and what on satellite radio, or what it depends on what what the vibe is. So now I think about it kind of depends on the time of day too, which really so daytime. Still use the radio in the car sometimes day, wow, okay, boom. In the daytime, I tend to listen to newer acts. So you know, my Apple Music or Amazon like what they suggest for you, or you pick it. Well, you know, it's our algorithm now, so I guess they pick it based on what I've have been listening to, yeah, but I tend to listen to newer, newer acts during the day. And I, you know, weigh in if you feel the same way, but I tend to be more nostalgic at night. So, yeah, yeah, more No, yeah, definitely more nostalgic at night. So depend on who you're with, correct? That's true too. But yeah, I'll listen to, you know, if I'm going out somewhere jams at night, slow jams at night, or when I'm like, cleaning up around the house or something, or or if I'm going out somewhere where they're going to be contemporaries, I'll throw in some old school stuff. You know what? I mean. Just get back in that frame of mind. I would be remiss to say I forgot that Method Man came out with to Cal in 1990 so that was a great album test. That's no person that that you know we, at least I circle back to and what a we might have to give him an award, Max, or what for kind of reinventing himself over and over. Well, not only that, like Yeah, because he has become an accomplished actor, but he has he looks good. I don't know what kind of award we would give for that. But as a midlight, midlife, midlife Marauder, he looks fabulous. You know he's, he's got, speaking of fabulous, that fab guy from Millie vanilla, he looks pretty good now. Oh, does he? Of course, yeah. Oh yeah. Man, Whoa, yeah, three, yeah, you know? He, yeah, we should, maybe that should be our end of the year thing. We kind of give an award of who've aged well, but then also who have inspired us. I like that. I like that. So shout out to Method Man, man, he. He's very inspiring to me. Like, you know, I see him now, and I'm like, I'm in. I gotta hit the gym. Hot boy looks, looks in fabulous shape, so it looks good. And Joshua Jackson, we were talking about him earlier, but he's only 46 so 10 years. That's a good life for I don't know that much about Joshua Jackson. I've seen him in a couple of things. I didn't he was in The Hunger Games, right? I know I'm from Dawson's Creek. Okay, well, Dawson's Creek. Didn't watch that. Yeah. And now he's got some new show on a ship, I think, some series, yeah, yeah, ship doctor, or something like that. Commercials, I've seen those commercials. Yeah, he, he has. He has done well for himself and his for his age. He, he's definitely did a glow up too. So yes, we got to figure out what these people's secrets are. You I did something a little out of the norm. Uh, somewhat recently, what's that? I went to a country music concert. Oh, this was new music or old music. This is brand new music. Brand New Music. So I'm to, I'm not into the country music, singing that much that seems to be like the fastest growing music drawing genre. Do you agree? Really? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I think so. I think so. I think the audience is getting broader too, for that 100% 100% Well, that leads me to my point. So there's. A gentleman named shabu z ahuzi, who's a who's from the Washington DC area, a black man. He's not a, he's not a midlife marauder. He's in his see. How old Shu boo z is. He was on late 20s, yes. So anyway, he's kind of caught fire here 29 Okay, so he has a very popular song out the bar song, Tipsy, and it's just caught fire this summer, Song of the summer here at everywhere, and some friends and I caught when, you know, we did a little investigation and found out he's a local cat. But anyway, we found out he's from Fairfax. Yeah, no idea that he was performing in Washington, DC. So it was like, you know, hey, we got to go check this guy out. We've been listening to this one song all summer. Right? So it was an impulse buy. I'm not gonna lie, it was impulse Where is he playing 930 club in DC. So it was an impulse buy. We only knew one song but say, hey, whatever. We only live. We only know this one. Yeah, 100% so we bought our tickets. The show was late September, I want to say up until the time of the show, he did release an album, so we kind of quickly were able to listen to the album. We didn't, we didn't have it wasn't we didn't have the opportunity to let it soak in, and, you know, really get familiar with the songs, or whatever. So we were going on the strength of this one song. Okay, okay, so that's pretty good song, very catchy. So that, that was our thinking. So we had planned this evening of going out. Now I was kind of leaving it up to my friends to, kind of to work it out. So I didn't really get into the minutia of, you know, the actual concert, the details and everything. So come to find out a day or two before, because we were talking about, you know, getting a big Uber to go down there go to a place right across the street from the venue, hang out there for a little while something oh, we're gonna leave probably like 656, something like that. Because I'm thinking the concerts like eight, nine, something like that, right? Well, much to my chagrin, I found out the doors open to the venue at 10 o'clock, 10 people did you figured when did you figure that out? Probably a day or two before the show. Okay, so I was thinking, do you think to yourself, maybe I'm gonna skip this? No, no. But it did make me pause for a minute. It didn't make me like, okay, I can do this a Saturday night. So I can, I can do this, but the lateness of the doors opening did give me pause, so I was like, All right, cool. I'm wrong with the punches, because that's what I do now as a marauder, right? Yes, you have to, like, kind of trick yourself. You gotta trick your mind, trick your body, do the whole thing. So yes, just say yes. So we met up at a friend's house, had a couple cocktails there around 8pm probably left to go to DC, around like 845 Yeah, like 845 yeah, that's that feels late. It does to start off tonight to start so we got to no let me, let me, let me move up that timeline. We probably left at 830 and got to DC around like nine, nine ish, 915, ish, right. Okay, so we went to a place across the street. It was a bar. Had a couple cocktails there, had a good time. It was 10 o'clock. Doors are opening. All right, let's go wrap up our tabs. We walk to the venue. Now I don't know why I didn't think about this. You know, I didn't, for some reason, I don't know why any of us didn't think about this. Doors opening doesn't mean you, you just arrive at 10 o'clock and the line starts forming right, right? Like you're just gonna walk in Right? Like it's a movie or something. We're inexperienced. Now, yes, yes. And that was kind of like, I don't really go into the city that much, so it's, it's been a long time since I've done something like this. So anyway, we walk over and there is a huge line wrapped around the building to get to the spot. And the spot is not very big, okay, um, immediately I'm thinking to myself, Oh no, this line is too long. I don't want to wait in this line. It's 10 o'clock already. I just, if somebody puts it out there to bail, I'm not gonna that. I might just say way and say, Yeah, let's go right. No one did anything. So I'm thinking of mine. Okay, all right, are these are the people that you went with? Their our age too. They're a little younger. They're in their mid, mid 40s, mid to late 40s, so no one said anything. So we weren't going to be the first. I wasn't going to be the first. I need to be more of a leader, but we go to the back of the line, and the line was formidable, like there's no way, man, there's no way. The line moved at a decent rate. I wouldn't say quickly, but I wouldn't say at a snail's pace either. It was just enough to keep us on the hook. So we probably were in line 30 minutes. Okay, now that seems like a long time. No, it's that we got in line at 10, so it's like 1030 Oh, okay, so 1030 so 30 minutes seems like a long time, I get it, but you're engaging in conversation. You're talking to other people in line, you're keeping yourselves entertained. You're not just standing in line like you would be at the DMV or something like that. And plus, we had had a, you know, a few cocktails, so we were feeling pretty good, but like I said, it was moving just enough to keep us on the hook. So we probably got into the venue around 1030 1040 we, you know, we went to the bar, caught a couple of drinks, and there was an opening act. There was a gentleman playing the guitar. I couldn't tell you one song he signed. I couldn't tell you if it was even country music. So you all told talking to each other, vibe, and we're getting ourselves hype. You know, it's, it's 1111 30 at this point. And you know, I'm looking at my watch, I'm like, man, it's getting late. What's this guy gotta get up? My God, 1130 right? So finally he gets on, probably around like 1140 1145 and then, you know, grant you, he's not playing his most popular song at the big at the top of the show, right, right? Say that to the end, right? So he's playing his songs, and they're good enough for me to catch a vibe, right? You keep me kind of engaged and enthralled. And how are you? Were you dancing, bopping back and forth, you know, kind of like fake enthusiasm, you know, because it's not like country where, you know he's talking about his girlfriend leaving him, or he ran over his dog or something like that, right? It's mainly, mainly involving party going out, right? Okay, having a good time. So I'll give them kudos for that. Get with that so I can get with that. So the vibes are high. It's a good energy. I don't know the songs, but I'm just kind of rolling with them. So two girls that came with us. We had probably a party of like nine, I want to say two girls, bless their hearts, they're nurses. I would have thought they would have been equipped to stay. They tapped out. They tapped Oh, they did. Yeah, they tapped out. And I was like, he does. He hasn't even done the best song. Here, we gotta go. We gotta go. So they rolled out. So anyway, there's probably like seven of us hanging on at this point. Yeah, see, yeah, long. So we made it through. I don't know how we did. I think I might have had a Red Bull or something at that point. But, you know, he finally did his song, and he did like, two or three renditions of the song. So it was, it was cool, but what time was it? Oh, it was probably, like one, 130 something like that. But, yeah, it did. It did kind of make me feel, and, you know, we'll have a reoccurring, uh, segment on the show of, are we too old for this? But it did make me feel, man, I am too old, but it was cool though. I pushed my limit. You know, I'm 55 Well, I guess I was 54 at the time, but it made me feel pretty good that I was able to do it. And, you know, I was able to hang with my friends, got through it, had a great time. Probably wouldn't do it. No regrets, no regrets, but probably wouldn't do it again, to be honest, it's just too late. I mean, yeah, just well, you would do it, but not that late, not that late, not that late. I mean, I think it's important, like I said earlier too, for us to still be able to enjoy life, go to concerts, friends, try put yourself out. Put yourself out there, you know, something to keep the blood. I don't want to sound like we're geriatric, but you know what I mean, like, you know, keep some vitality in our lives. And it was a cool, cool experience, but like I said, I probably would never do it again. I. Mind. Thanks for joining us for this episode of midlife marauders. Follow us on social media and wherever you stream your podcast. We also want to give a big shout out to Frank Moyn at Moines music for providing the beats for our theme music and to our listeners, keep on marauding and see you next time you