Midlife Marauders

Swelce, Snoop & the Rizz Check

• Will & Max • Season 2 • Episode 6

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We’re back—and Will’s marauding with his new Dominion Road Podcast. Then it’s all on the table: has Travis lost his rizz, or is he marrying up with the Swelce engagement? We get into how Snoop’s old-school take on gay marriage has lande him in hot water, whether brands are overcorrecting on representation in commercials, and why Pedro Pascal keeps delivering—even if Fantastic Four was kinda meh.

Thanks for listening--keep on marauding!

SPEAKER_02:

Max, how have you been marauding lately? Have you been doing any type of marauding?

SPEAKER_00:

That is a good question. I

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guess

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it depends on what you call marauding. I mean, I took this trip back to the East Coast with my kids, and we basically saw every friend that we wanted to see. I mean, not everybody because some people were away, but we packed in so much on this trip. We were there for two weeks, and so I feel like that was marauding in a sense that we really were able to catch up with people. I went downtown to Seattle to watch, you know, we watched Josh Johnson, the comedian. So that was kind of, you know, I remember this is kind of as you get older, sometimes when you have an evening engagement or you have to go into the city, it's kind of like, you know, there's a part of you that's like, I just want to stay home. But then when you do it, you're happy that you did it and you feel like, you know, you accomplished something. thing you know I think you and I have talked about that before so I would say that's marauding and you know there's some other little things that I've done but mostly I would say those two are some big things just kind of still continuing to go out and although you know when we went out it was like a 4 p.m. show so we're kind of excited about that exactly like we're I wonder if we're getting towards those you know I got to go to the five o'clock you know go to the buffet Oh, no, no,

SPEAKER_02:

no, don't say that. golf tournament in Maryland. It's one of the PGA kind of like end of the season tournaments.

SPEAKER_00:

Had you never been to a tournament? Is this your first one?

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This is my first PGA tournament. I've been to a couple live golf events, but this is like the kind of the semifinals of the year-end kind of championship. And it was right out side of Baltimore. I had a couple of friends that said, hey, you want to go? I got a ticket for you and all the other good stuff. It was super cool. It was like VIP access. We can go to any of the hospitality tents. It was all you could eat, all you could drink.

SPEAKER_00:

Wait, how did you get the VIP? Did you just have to pay for it? No, I didn't

SPEAKER_02:

pay anything. I had a hookup. I think one of the girls that was there, she was She works for one of the company that has a corporate sponsor. Of

SPEAKER_00:

course it was fun because you had the VIP.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, the VIP. And I wore that out. I ate and drank everything that I could. But the kicker was, you know, obviously if it's a golf event, it's during the day. So we had to wake up super early, drive all the way out to Baltimore. And, you know, we started, you know, we watched golf, obviously, but a lot of time was spent in the hospitality team. But they had like a Casamigos bar there. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00:

So it was about the whole experience, not just watching the golf, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Not just watching. Yeah, I could care less about the golf. But it was good golf to watch. You know, you got to see like Scotty Shuffler and all the good guys over there.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, nice.

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But then we went to a Nats game afterwards.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, you packed it in.

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Yeah, the Nats game was at four. So So that was a whole, so we drove back, drove back to DC and, you know, I watched a little bit of baseball. Again, we were in the club level. So everything's just laid out beautiful, blah, blah,

SPEAKER_00:

blah. So these are the same people, like one group went from one place to another? Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Correct, correct. And, you know, it was around like six, seven o'clock and I was like, I am really, really tired. I'm just not built for that anymore. You know, I love a good day park. But when you start at 7.30, that's a little bit too much. So we wound up driving back and they begged me to go out to a bar for a couple of cocktails. And I had like one beer and I was

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done.

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You were done. I was done. I was in bed by 8 p.m.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, that's pretty good. I mean, that's still 12 hours,

SPEAKER_02:

right? Yeah, yeah. And yeah, it was a great day. It was a really great day. But it was something that the reason why I would say it's marauding is because, you know, 10 years ago, five years ago, I wouldn't have done that. I don't have a golf tournament. You know, are you kidding me? That's no fun. But since I've become obsessed with golf and I enjoy a good day party as opposed to an evening party now, you know, plus it being VIP, who am I to turn that down?

SPEAKER_00:

So it's new experiences.

SPEAKER_02:

It was very new experiences. experience very new experience but as far as uh other marauding activities i

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want to talk about the big one

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the big one well i uh for our midlife marauders out there i do have i am involved involved in another podcast it's called dominion road podcast and uh that

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you know i'm gonna use these

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i know yeah go go for it i love it um that is another Thank you so much for having me. best friends since then. And it's, it's sort of similar to, to us a little bit more on the male perspective and a little, you know, we, we, we are very vulnerable in that in a sense that, you know, our perspective is, you know, we, as, as black men, we're all, we're all African-American, but you know, we didn't grow up sharing or being vulnerable or really talking about Like opening up, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So tell me more about how you came up with the name and like, did you guys just decide one day, have you been talking about this for a while? Is it because of our podcast? You thought, Hey, let's do, you know, I'm going to do this with some friends too. Like tell me all the backstory.

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Well, the genesis of it was, you know, obviously these gentlemen are fans of this podcast. When we had Frank on,

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shout

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out to Steve and Darren and Moyne. When we had Frank Moyne on there, That was a super good episode. If you haven't seen it, go check it out. That was kind of the genesis of it.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, because he didn't want to stop talking. He realized he liked it, right? He liked the format. He was good. Yeah,

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he was very good. And they kind of talked about it and talked to me about it. And me having the experience of doing the podcast, they wanted to lean on that for whatever that's Yeah, you guys started up quickly, though. I'm going to walk away, you know, from Midlife Marauders. I'm going to

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do both. You better not.

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And yeah, you know, we're going to, I'm going to talk about each podcast on the other podcast and kind of keep, you know, get both kind of intertwined and connected to each other and that sort of thing. So yeah, that's, that's where we are with it right now.

SPEAKER_00:

So tell me about the name. Like, how did you come up with the name? Oh,

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Midlife. I'm sorry. Dominion Road. I tell you, Max, that was something that when we first talked about it, we agonized over it. And that was one that was

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thrown out there. It's like old Dominion, like Virginia.

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Well, no, Dominion Road is, okay, when we lived with each other after UVA, we lived on Dominion Road in Virginia. So that's where that name comes from. We had a house there. And that was thrown out early. as far as the names. And at first, I didn't like it. I didn't like it one bit, to be honest with you. It had some sort of religious connotations, and I'm not speaking against

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religion. It makes me think of like a brewing company or something. Oh. Old Dominion Brewing Company. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. Well, everything in Virginia is kind of Dominion anyway. Yeah. You know, the old Dominion State. But I didn't really care for it. But when we were bantering around like names and stuff, it just seemed to fit because because that was kind of like, you know, where we all were in one place together and we all had, you know, shared experiences and that sort of thing. So it grew on me. And then we just decided to go with that name.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I really feel like that is like the good example of marauding, you know, in midlife because you guys just decided all of a sudden. And you really are put, you know, I listened to the first two episodes and you guys, I mean, I love all the laughter and the jokes and the Right. You guys are already naturals, I think.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, thank you. I'm not going to lie to you, Max. We had a couple of practice episodes that were not very good. Yeah. It took the guys to, it took a couple of episodes for all of us to get comfortable. Like for me, you know, like doing this podcast, you know, I'm already like sharing my life, my stories, you know, being somewhat vulnerable on here. But for them, it was, they had to get used to a little bit more, get more comfortable.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. It definitely takes some time.

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100%. And with that one, we're, We're having discussions on how we can be more open. And, you know, when you do a podcast, you have to be willing to put yourself out there and, you know, some things

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you say. And share about your personal life. And

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share. Yeah. But you can't worry about what other people think. You know what I mean? Obviously, you want people to like it and enjoy it. But you can't worry about, you know, there's always going to be people that love it and there's always always going to be some people that don't like what you talk about or don't like it at all. And my advice to them is like, I don't really care if the people like it or not. I just want them to listen and watch. Even the haters will listen and watch. You know what I mean? So we're trying to get views. We're trying to get subscribers and likes just as we are on this podcast. And we want to entertain and make good content and obviously please as many people as possible. But in the end, you want to have a product that people want to come back to and and watch and listen. And, you know, obviously we're not trying to offend anybody. But for, you know, for them, you know, they're thinking about their families, you know, their wives,

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their kids. How much they can say about their spouses. You notice I don't talk that much about my husband

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on here. Right, exactly. So, yeah, that's an adjustment, but we're getting better, just like we did here. You know, some things we won't talk about, you know, But we'll be as open as we possibly can. And, yeah, that's where we are right now with it.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's talk about Tay Tay and Trav, right?

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Is that big news?

SPEAKER_00:

That's huge news. I didn't find out. I'm not like checking my phone all the time. And so I found out about it, like somebody posted something on LinkedIn. So I was really late, like five hours after the announcement. But I guess, you know, people like, you know, I read some of, you know, some people were crying, you know, just like, like, like, I don't even know these people, but I'm so happy for them, you know, I mean, because the fans are just, you know, so in to the relationship and they just love Taylor Swift, right? The Swifties. So it's interesting, right? And I think it's one of these things that we have so much bad news these days. So just having something that's kind of positive, you know, and hopeful and, you know, it's kind of, it's like the fairy tale, right? And so it's kind of fun. You know, some people are saying this is like the U.S. royal wedding. Oh, okay. What? They're saying it's like the U.S.? Like the American royal wedding. I mean, think about how popular she is, you know, how popular Taylor Swift is. And then you've got a chief, you know, so. Okay.

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Well, let me, I know that she's popular, but she's not ever on my radar. I'm never thinking, wow. We

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talked about her though, in our podcast before. We were there at the beginning.

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Right. For me, I listen, Hey, congratulations to them both. I wish them nothing but a healthy marriage and whatever, beautiful life, whatever. I don't get the whole hype around it. I'll tell you what, though. I have to be honest. I look at pictures of them. And I actually get sad, to

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be honest. Why? For Travis or for her or for

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what? For Travis.

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This is our same conversation that we had

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before. I'm going to bring it back up. I see a man. Clearly, he's happy, right? He must be. I mean, no one's putting a gun to his head.

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It's like the understatement of the year. He's

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happy. He's marrying up.

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He's marrying up.

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In some respects, yes. In some respects, I would beg to differ. I just look at a man, and listen, Travis Kelsey, to me, has been one of those guys, his swag was always on point for me. Mm-hmm. I'm not jealous of men or anything like that, but man, he just seemed like he was swagged out all the time. He

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was super cool. He never changed, right? That's good. It's not like she changed him, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Well,

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hold on. This is pre-TayTay now. I'm not talking about sincere engagement. I

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wasn't following him before that.

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I see that. I was. So I'm looking at him and like Instagram and paparazzi photos. And I just see a guy that looks super cool. He was fashionable. You know, you know, his haircut was always on point. His clothes were always on point, you know? And I was like, man, he, he, he, he, he's swaggy. He's, he's got, he's got that, that riz as the kids would say.

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Yeah. There is right. Yeah. A

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hundred percent. No, I, at him. It looks like she has sucked all the riz out of him. All the swag is gone. He looks like a basic dude now.

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You think his style has changed a

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lot? Oh, for sure.

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Are you kidding me?

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His haircut is generic. His clothes are not swagged out like they

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used to be. He's like acting. He's in movies. He was in Happy Gilmore.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, another point. I have yet to see that movie. People have been telling me that I should. It's nostalgic. It's not good, I've heard, but it's

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nostalgic. Yeah, it's just nostalgic. Yeah, and there's a lot of cameos. Yeah, a

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lot of cameos. And it's golf. It's golf, right. I should want to watch it, but for some reason I just don't have the gumption to watch it. But I will. I will get around to it. But getting back to Travis very briefly, he just looks like the life he's been sucked out of. Now, it's a different life, right? And I get that. But I just don't

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see the same thing. He's going to marry the biggest pop star in the world.

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And good for him. I probably would do the same thing, too. If I married Tay-Tay, I'd probably look like the biggest square dude you've ever seen in your life. But hey, if that's what... He just went from a man or celebrity or athlete that would just look swagged out to just a basic regular dude

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now. Oh, he's in love. I listened to some of the podcasts where they, um, where she was on, you know, the Kelsey brothers podcast. And it was, it was good. You know, I had never really listened to her. I guess she was never on a podcast, but you know, they're very different, I think, but I think somehow it works. So I like it. I feel like they're kind of equals.

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All right. Are you not, you're not in the camp that's saying that she is selling like magic marrying down?

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I mean, I think it's hard for her to find somebody who is her equal, you know?

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Right. But you feel like he's marrying up, right?

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I do. But nobody could match her. Who else can match her, right? It would be hard to find somebody who... And I think it's good she kind of went outside of her industry, like not in the music industry, you know? He's not in Hollywood, you know? So it's kind of good. He's got his own career and he's done well in sports. And so it's kind of different. And that's the whole thing. I think the announcement was like the English teacher is marrying the gym teacher. So it's like coming from two different worlds. Right. So that's cute.

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Yeah, good for them. All the blessings I can give, I'm giving to them. Nothing but a wonderful life. I

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value your perspective, Will. I'm glad we got to talk about it.

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Just keep a little swag, Travis. That's all I ask for. Don't let it take it all from

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you.

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In more celebrity news, Max, have you heard about the Snoop Dogg

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cut? Only a bit. You can tell me more about what you've heard. I read a couple articles about it, but I wasn't tracking that much on it and seeing all the venom from people online. Tell me your thoughts on it.

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Apparently, he He took his grandson, one of his grandsons to a movie. In this movie, I guess it's a kid's movie. Yeah, it's called Lightyear. I

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think it's a spinoff of Toy Story.

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Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So apparently there's a scene where with two mothers, two women have a child. And this confused the grandson. And he asked Snoop, hey, how are two women having a kid? And I guess there was a kissing scene in the movie as well. And Snoop is like, he didn't want to answer because he didn't know how to answer. And, you know, he basically said that he's finding it difficult or can't go to a movie anymore because these kind of issues are coming up in like kid movies. And he's like, I can't even go to the movies anymore. And that, that like was controversial, you know, against the LGBTQ community and all that other good stuff. He shouldn't have said that, but I do find, you know, I try to put myself in that position as well. Like how, how would I explain to a kid that we're, you know, we're watching an animated movie, you know, and there's, two mothers, two women that have a son. I wouldn't want to have that discussion with a little kid like that. We're trying to watch this children's movie. I kind of

SPEAKER_00:

get that. Yeah, but why? But why? Love is love. I mean, it's a relationship just like a heterosexual one. What I think is interesting, okay, he's 53 years old, right? He's a little bit younger than us. I feel like he was older, but anyhow, but he's 53 years old. So I think it just shows that some people our age are still I don't want to say old school but you know he was in the movie old school wasn't he but I just think there's different beliefs right belief systems you know he's getting people are mad because he supported Trump or he went you know and performed at the inauguration so you know there's this whole is he MAGA is he right wing is he whatever you know like is he more conservative so if that's what he believes then that tracks right I mean I think what's sad is that he couldn't just say to his grandson, hey, let's talk about it later, and then maybe he could educate himself a bit, you know, and kind of come up with a better answer than like, oh, no, you know, come on.

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Well, for me, it's like, even if he did, even if he felt the way that he felt, he didn't have to make it public. You know what I mean? What is he doing by making it public? Is he, is that a protest in itself?

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No, I think, you know, I think people, you know, I think, you know, think about it. We, if you have your own podcast, you can edit it however you see fit. Right. But if you're on somebody else's podcast and you're signing away kind of your rights and they can put it on there. And so maybe he wasn't thinking, you know, and he, and he didn't expect it to blow up. Right. But I mean, as a public figure, he should probably be a little bit expecting it. Right. Right. Expecting it. But, you know, people are probably, you know, the person who was interviewing him was probably like, this is going to be great.

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That's a goal Right. I

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kind of

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understand a little bit about what he was saying because, hey, if it was like an adult movie or... Maybe something like PG-13 or something like that. Okay, maybe I understand, but like...

SPEAKER_00:

What? PG-13?

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I mean, something a little bit more mature. An older kid, we could have this kind of dialogue a little bit more about.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. I think that's saying that you think that, or that's saying that something's wrong with same-sex. Yeah, I could I don't understand why you would think that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can understand that. Well, okay, let me try to clean it up a little bit so people don't go after me. I think even in a heterosexual sense, that's something that probably needs to stay out of animated movies. Kissing? Well, yeah.

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Or like French kissing or something? I

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didn't watch the movie. I don't know. I don't know. It's just, for me, it would be like, this kid's so young. I just don't really want, I don't think this is the time and place to have that kind of conversation. But I could be completely wrong. I think

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he should have still talked to the kid at some point, you know, and even whether it's explaining his own feelings, you know, the kid was being curious, you know. I just think it makes me think of even though he's 53 in our age, it makes me think of somebody older who, you know, who has these old school thoughts and just still disagrees with same sex marriage, same sex relationships, you know? And so that's why I thought of like, oh, he's just some old dude. And I thought he was more progressive or whatever, you know, but. Well,

SPEAKER_02:

I guess that's me too, man. I

SPEAKER_00:

guess so. And I think also maybe it's partly like, do you have gay friends? You know, maybe that's also part of he, maybe he's not, you know, He doesn't have any gay friends. Which would be crazy, him being in the entertainment industry.

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Again, I'm not knocking gay love or anything of that nature. I just don't know. I need to spend some more time thinking about it. It also makes me think about this too, Max. I couldn't help but kind of put that... Well, that's not in the same category, but it made me think about... You ever notice... When you see a commercial now... And it's always about a couple or a married couple. It's always interracial.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I was actually going to make that example. Like, what if it was an interracial

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couple? Or a gay couple.

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Right, because we're all supposed to be woke. It's like woke branding, you know, woke advertising, right? Yeah, but is

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it patronizing now? I'm not saying it's too much, but is it like... What's the word? Aggradizing? I can't remember what

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it is. Aggrandizing.

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Yeah.

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I like it because I feel like it makes different relationships and situations seem normal. That we're not going to make a big deal out of it. If you think about, take away the same sex part, think about, like you're saying, interracial. There was a time where you couldn't marry somebody outside of your race. Correct. Would you say if there was a movie about that and a kid's movie and like me and my husband, my husband's white and we're kissing, that should be like banned, you know? So it's the same to me, it's the same thing. And to me, the more that they, and this is, you know, we earlier, we were talking about the Sydney Sweeney thing is that people want to see more of what they look like on TV and ads. And I think, you know, advertising companies maybe have gone the other way. I think the pendulum swang, swung, you know, but I think as a person of color, or if you were, um, I think it would be kind of reassuring and comforting that we're seeing this on TV and then we see people like us. I

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can understand why you feel that way. I'm going to tell you something though. I've talked to several members of an older generation about this. How old?

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Like five years older than us. No, no,

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no, no. 60s, 70s, and 80s. Let's just say that, okay?

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Okay, yeah.

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And it's big. Yes. All that has become more accepting, and it shouldn't be an issue, right? But it's also to the point where, where are we seeing instances or opportunities for Black love, like two Black people as a couple? Yeah. Or even two white people as a couple. I mean, almost every ad that I see is some sort of mixed race or a homosexual couple. And again, I'm not knocking any of that. It's just like, all right, but where are we getting away from... Black love or white love, whatever we call it, Asian love, whatever. Yeah, it's

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tricky,

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right? Yeah, it's tricky. Is it... I'm not gonna ever say it's too much, but... It's almost like, wow, they're really going out of their way to do this, you know? And it's like, it's kind of confusing.

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I think you have to decide for yourself. You know, I think, you know, it's easy to be influenced by what we see on TV and advertising. That's the whole thing about advertising. But I remember there was an article in the New York Times about these Black date nights, right? Where you would go to meet other Black people. And, you know, it was only for black people. So that's kind of what you're saying that you kind of want to bring that back. Um, and I get that, you know, I mean, I went on this thing called the love boat. Uh, it's called the love boat, but it's actually called, it's actually a study tour in Taiwan that people knew that they would send their kids on the love boat so that they can meet other Taiwanese Americans. Right. So there's a desire on the parents part to keep, you know, I don't know, to not have interracial marriage or dating. But love is love, Will.

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Love is love. And again, I just want to be very clear that I'm all supportive of that. And again, these people of these elder generations, they're not knocking interracial couples. It's just like, okay, but we're just, it's almost like grandstanding them. Like, okay, is there something wrong with a black couple or, you know, a same race couple.

SPEAKER_00:

I think people are just experimenting, Will. People are just experimenting, trying different things. I don't know. I don't have a good answer for you, but I get what you're saying. You get

SPEAKER_02:

what I'm saying? Yeah. No, I get what you're saying. For that older generation, it's way more difficult for them to comprehend that, to understand that, because you know what you know what how they grew up and how they live so it's just

SPEAKER_00:

like it's almost like something like love is blind have you seen that show love is blind with the whole idea is you go into these pods and you don't see them right you fall in love without knowing what they look like so

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you already know the answer of course I haven't

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seen that maybe you need to see it but I know you it's not like you're just dating people of your own No, and

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again, no, of course not. No. Of

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course not. I'm not

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saying that.

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You just want to see it on TV, right?

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Again, I don't mind seeing it on TV, but I'm actually looking now, like, okay, where are the examples of... a couple's in the same race. I just don't see it anymore. It's more fascinating for them. I'm getting all huffy about it. It's just like, wow, wow. It's rare that I see a commercial where it's two black people,

SPEAKER_00:

two white people, two Asian people. Yeah, but there's so many deeper issues, right? You hear about... Yeah, I mean, there's so many things we could talk about with this. Some You know, the whole Drake and Serena Williams, like, you know, people were angry at him or whatever, you know what I mean? And then she wasn't dating, you know, she ended up dating or marrying a white guy and people were angry about that, you know? So it's like, but some of the black guys she was with, you know, were assholes, you know?

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And some of the white guys too. There's a lot of different issues. Black men aren't the only assholes, let me just

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say that. No, I'm just saying the ones she dated, I think people were saying that, why are you going to fault her

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for... Hold on, Max. How do you know that she wasn't the one at fault in all these relationships?

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She could have been, but people were just blaming her for dating a white guy.

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Hey, date who you want to date, marry who you want to date. It doesn't matter to me. I don't care.

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Just show us some people of the same race. Yeah, let's

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switch it up a bit now. Let's show us some same

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race couples. Get the pendulum back in. Let's swing it back. But I think we're seeing that. I think the pendulum Angela was swinging back.

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Let's just even it out a bit. For sure. For sure. Yeah. So I had an opportunity to see the Fantastic Four recently.

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Pedro Pascal is Hispanic, right? That's

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correct. Yeah. So, you know, obviously he's a Spanish actor. You know, the Fantastic Four.

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He's from Chile.

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Chilean. Chilean. He, you know, the comics, you know, they're a white family. So they switched that up. They also switched up.

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Are you mad about that?

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No, I don't. I mean, as long as the acting and as long as it's not a complete. It's not. Well, this is going to sound racist.

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Are you mad when they had a black little mermaid? No,

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I'm never. Some people are mad. When it's that way. Double

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standard. It

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is. Hey, sue me. People were mad about the Silver Surfer. Yeah,

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tell me about what... Was the Silver Surfer a male in the original?

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Well, here's the thing. Ooh,

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geek out. Let's hear that.

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The more popular Silver Surfer is a male. Norn Rad, I believe is his name. But in the comics, there is a female Silver Surfer. So it wasn't like... they came up with this out of the blue. It is a comic accurate

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character.

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So people, you know, there's been three other iterations of the Fantastic Four. And in all those previous ones, it was the male Silver Surfer. So I didn't have a problem with the female Silver Surfer in this.

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Yeah, she was the coolest character in the whole thing, I

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thought. Yeah, Shia LaBeouf, I believe, is the... combo character's real name. But yeah, I didn't have a problem with that. I didn't have a problem with Pedro Pascal. I thought... I thought it was a good movie. Not great, but I thought it was a good movie.

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Yeah, I didn't think it was great. I fell asleep.

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Oh my goodness, you did. Wow.

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Well, the first half was kind of slow.

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Yeah, it definitely built up, you know, when, what's his name showed up? Galactus, Galactus. Yeah, when he, you know, when he showed up, it definitely picked up. But again, with, and maybe it goes back to the TV, TV series thing. It's like even the movies now aren't as good to me as they used to be. I mean, it's

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just not holding my attention. They should come up with more original things because we're comparing them to old things. Are you saying the remakes or just any movie?

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Just pretty much any movie at this

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point. Wow, Bill. That's a very

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broad... But I do need to change. So I've been wanting... When I go to movies now, it's mostly... Marvel movies, DC movies. I'm trying to think of the last movie I saw that wasn't one of those. Maybe I'm just DC and Marveled out. Maybe I need to broaden my horizons a little bit. The movie that I really want to see is Weapons.

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Oh, yeah. That's supposed to be good. Are there any midlifers in that? The reason we wanted to talk about Fantastic Four was because Pedro Pascal being 50.

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Josh Brolin. Isn't that?

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Oh, he's gotta be, how old is Josh Brolin?

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He's

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probably, I don't want any spoilers though.

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No, I'm not going to spoil

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it. You haven't seen it yet, right? I have not seen it. It's been getting some good buzz.

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Yeah.

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Uh, and

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yeah. And the girl who played the silver surfer is in that movie as well.

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Is that the same girl from Ozarks?

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It is.

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Is it somebody else?

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Yeah. No, it's her, sir.

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Okay. Well, good for

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her. So I want to go, I want to go see, I gotta, I gotta break my, uh, my movie streak here. I got to start watching some different type of movies. I think that's

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what it is. All right. Let's review Weapons next. I wouldn't mind seeing that.

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Okay. We could do that for sure. For sure. But yeah, shout out to Josh Bro. Shout out to Pedro Pascal. Midlifers doing their thing at the top of the craft, particularly with Pedro. I think we talked about this before. He's ascending in his mid-50s. He's more popular than ever, so So kudos to them. Max.

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Okay. He is a Zed. People call him Daddy, right? They like to call him Daddy. I mean, not us, because he's obviously younger

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than us. You can call him Zed all you want. I mean,

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you can call him

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whatever you want. How can I call him Daddy? Like his older sister. There's no shame in my game. He's an attractive man. It

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is what it is.

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Yeah. Yeah,

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and we like him because he's a midlifer.

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He is a midlife. He's doing his thing. And he's at the top of his career right now. And it's only going to get better. He's going to be in some big, big time movies coming up. He's going to be in Avengers Doomsday. And he's got some other good projects as well. So shout out to him. Thanks for joining us for this episode of Midlife Marauders. Follow us on social media and wherever you stream your podcasts.

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